WEBVTT - Jade Novah 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.320 R and B Money. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.120 We are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:15.440 Thanks take MATOCHI. We are the authority on all things 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:16.120 R and B. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.680 Ladies and gentlemen. Money is Tank Valentine. This it's the 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.960 R and B Money Podcast. It is the authority on 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:29.360 all things. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:37.160 What it is R Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got talent 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.680 in the building. Yeah, it's shining. You see, I got 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:40.279 glasses on. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.559 You see it is it somewhere shine? It's the gifts 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.479 are in the buildings. They are Are you well rounded? 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.960 Huh hm hmmm. Do you know your chart? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.520 Do you do you know either? 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.280 Can you do it all? Man? Don't look shy? 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.120 Sang it, sing it, write it, write it, acted, produce it, 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:04.080 promote it. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:05.840 Doing impression up, doing impression up? 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:11.360 Guy. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.160 Yeah, but wait, you don't know your chart, your birth chart? 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.000 Do you all know what time you were born? 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.000 Now you know what? Let's get into the interview. No, 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.080 let's do it. No, listen to it. I don't know 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:20.560 any of that. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.080 I went for any of those women in my DMS 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.800 trying to figure out my chart. I will never tell 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.280 you because I don't know it. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.880 I was the seventh baby born on January first, I 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:31.160 don't know. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:32.959 None of that was in the morning. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:34.400 But you don't know what's time. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:38.479 Seven seventeen. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.039 I do know that my father caught a charge on 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.119 the day I was born, because I seen his police record. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.200 Is that does that? Did that do anything. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:46.960 Significant? 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.120 Absolutely had some astrological significance. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.120 I was just randomly looking at his rap sheet one 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.720 day and I'm like, Dad, are you serious? 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:55.880 Man? This is my birthday? 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.640 Man trying to get to you. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:00.760 He had to, you know, he ad something on him 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:01.280 and you know he. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.200 Got you know, yeah, a little celebratory. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.320 No, not celebratory fireworks. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.720 Maybe for another time, we'll discuss a gunshote. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:23.440 Geez doctor goal slap, slap my son on the back. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:27.200 So pull it out on. Hit him again, See what happened? 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.720 Hit him again? See what happened? How you doing? J good? 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:34.400 I just seen you. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.839 I did. I seen you at south By Southwest talking 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.400 in a little fireside chat and dropping gems. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:43.399 And enough fireside chat. Shout out to Alex Haike over 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.240 a sound Royalties. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:45.920 Out there talking about man. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.040 Man, we're talking about the business man and and getting 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:54.160 into the ideas of ownership and in ways that the 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.440 business can help you and find ways that people don't 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.400 really know or are able to tap into it. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:02:59.160 Sound. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.800 Royalty is a one those places that people don't really 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.799 totally understand how it helps you, how it can help 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.000 you sustain your business and grow your business and all 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.720 of these types of things without having to give away ownership. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.200 You know what I'm saying. So that's where I was, 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.240 you know, doing a panel, and what you're doing here 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.320 is getting the penalty. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.480 Now we have an example of independence, a clear example 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.760 of independence how you can thrive dependently. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.760 But also, like you know, I think you know, there 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.280 are so many I mean, there's so many ways of 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.120 skin a cat, but I think you've done it in 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.640 such a way where you've led. 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.440 With your talent that analogy scared me. Do we do 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.040 we have another option for skinning cats as a vegan? 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:44.760 I find that. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.240 Here we go, Here we go. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:48.280 Peter agreed. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.920 I mean, but but they didn't eat the cat. It 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.280 just just okay, let's just get. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:54.640 Their hair, cam. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.120 Okay, So I. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.440 Didn't eat the cat. I don't know part of it. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.640 It's getting the cat. I'm scared. I'm scared of peed. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:09.240 It more than one way to chop down the tree. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:14.160 That's still that's not good for the environment. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:19.159 All right, Okay, there's there's more than one way. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:23.120 To be successful, or you could be literal that's yes, and. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:28.080 You've I think I feel and I'm sure most would agree, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.159 you've let with your talent, like in a in a 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.000 in a space or in a landscape where people are 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.880 leading with a whole lot of other things, like what 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:46.720 shock value? Ass you know, I'll stop there shock value and. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.440 Ask maybe that's their talent, maybe because some people are 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:51.000 really gifted. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.960 But where I come from, you had to be able 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.120 to sing to turn all that ship off. It'll be 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.840 a sing thank god you and write a song that's 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.719 a plus, but then stand on that stage and deliver 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.120 that ship like nobody's business. But you're also a unicorn 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.640 in the fact that you act and you do all 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.600 of these comedic things and have to commit like that. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.160 Now you're now you're just showing off. Ah, Now you're 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:16.960 just showing you're. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.960 Don't want to talk. I told my friend I was 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.039 coming out here and I was like, yeah, Tank, And 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:28.320 like the comedian Tank, I'm like, wa, yes, yes, somebody cool. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.040 Yes, that's really cool. One standup? 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:32.240 What you doing? 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:32.880 Stand up? Now? 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.120 I've been doing stand up? 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.599 Okay, I'm gonna have to like, I'm gonna have to 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.000 pick your brain on that because I'm getting ready. I'm 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.560 ready for stand up. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:45.039 I'm gonna tell you there's there There is no like blueprint, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.000 Like everybody's gonna have different advice for you right in 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.040 different you know. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:55.000 Just do it. I know what's the worst that can happen? 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.000 I know, yeah, getting heckled, But I mean I think 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.240 that's a part of the process. Like Chappelle, the most 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.080 incredible storyteller comedian of our time, gets heck You. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:08.400 Can rebuttle a heckle. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.640 You're fast and witty enough to get back into It's 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.400 not what you think it is. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.719 I just can't see j being like, shut the fuck up. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.000 Most certainly I sold the crowd during an R and 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.200 B concert to shut the fuck up. If the energy 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.520 isn't right, I will call it out. 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.920 Yeah, but we gotta get back to that job. 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.480 How do you tell the R and B? Because I've 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.000 been to your show, Yeah, I could not imagine you 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.920 in the middle of that show where it's like stars 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.119 and beautiful things and lights. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.039 I'm a Gemini. I mean, I don't know what that 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:42.599 means to you. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.040 I know exactly what this means. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.320 He seems very anti astrology. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.119 I have a daughter that's a Gemini. I know exactly 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:50.680 what it is. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:51.440 Yes, we can. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:52.680 What's your day? Yeah? 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.480 May thirtieth, My daughter's May twenty six made Gemini. So 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.600 when emerald gem is what I like to call us 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.760 because the Burthstone, And okay. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.560 I'm gonna tell her. You know you're an Emerald. I'm 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.839 call her as soon as we fits. No, it's just 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:15.440 I think, just literally just jump. You have the material, like, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.000 you know you're funny. You know you're funny, and so 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:24.440 it's just discovering how funny you are in this space. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.480 Yeah, and it trusts me. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.440 It goes a long way when you can get on 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:30.360 that stage. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.880 How long have you been doing stand up though, Shah? 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:37.560 I started years ago? Yeah, shit, close to. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.000 Eight nine years old, you've been doing this. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.640 I had no idea, but I literally jumped off the roof. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.960 Literally I had. I had never been on stage before. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.200 And Chris Spencer is getting ready to go up in 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.679 Atlanta and perform. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.000 Damn was that eight years ago? 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.480 That's more than eight years ago probably, And that was 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.800 more than eight years ago, and Chris and I was like, bro, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.640 you're here in a Landa, you're going on. You're going 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.680 on stage. She was like, He's like, yeah, what's up. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.960 He's liked, you want to open? I was like this, man, no, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.760 you know, I don't be doing those those things. You 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:12.200 know what I'm saying, though, Well, well maybe, yeah, yeah, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.280 I want to open. He's like, then shut the funk up. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:15.880 I said no, I want to open for real. He 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.160 was like, whatever, all right, just just meet me up here. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:19.800 I was like, all right, cool. And I sat there 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.920 and I just start writing jokes right on the spot. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.040 On the spot, yeah what I thought with jokes anyway. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.040 So I start writing these jokes and these moms or whatever. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.520 And so I get there and I'm like, I'm like, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.120 I say, Chris, I'm like, yes, So what's up? So 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:33.520 what time do I go on? He was like this, 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.560 fuck are you talking about? I'm like, what time do 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:36.040 I hit to stay? 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:36.480 Man? 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.760 I want to open? He's like, man, come outside. So 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.079 we go outside. He's like this, are you sure about this? 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.480 He's like, cause this is what you should do if 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:44.960 you're gonna do it, say, I said, I got it. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.160 He said yeah, but this is different. Thank if you 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.520 go I said, I got it. He said all right, okay. 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:53.680 And how many minutes did you prepare? 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.800 I prepared, Like see, that's the thing. I didn't know 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.720 what minutes were. As I'm writing jokes. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.520 I don't know back to songwriting, yes, not knowing when 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:05.800 the hook, know that. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.880 It was completely foreign to me. I just know I 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:13.839 had about four or five jokes, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.120 But I also knew that I was a storyteller, so 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.800 if I needed to extend, I could just I don't 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.160 make up some shit whatever. And so when I get there, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.720 there are other opening acts. I thought it was going 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.079 to be me and then him, there are other comedians 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.480 and when I say they are going crazy, they are 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.120 fucking ship up. And I like when somebody's singing good 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.120 before I go on, or performing good in the R 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.800 and B space, I know what to do to combat that. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.040 Take a shirt off. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:43.600 That's my method. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.319 Yeahga's your comedy right there. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.839 So I never I had never followed a comedian that 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.840 was killing. So I said, if you could give me 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.360 three patrons, just three outs, three of them, Just just 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.600 line me up with three shots of patron really quick, 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.880 because this thing is going crazy. I don't know what's 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.240 gonna happen when I get up there, pads, patrons, He 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.400 called me up to do this set, called me up 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.040 do my set, and I do my set, and it's 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.280 one of those things where anything that could go right 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:23.200 went right. It was a magical moment, like literally like 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:28.160 my my ending joke. The girl that was supposed to 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.439 be participating, it was just dance she was supposed to 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.680 be doing. And to make my joke even bigger, she 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.120 fucked around and slipped and fell off the stage. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.480 And I said, that's my time, good night, and everybody's laughing, 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.720 going crazy like it got. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.640 It was so crazy. Chris came on, he did it. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.640 When he started his set, he did his first fifteen 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.520 minutes about me, like this motherfucking came on. So I 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.640 literally jumped out the window. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:53.880 That's crazy. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.400 Almost got booed and it's inglewood, but that's a that's fine. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.199 It happened, almost got booed in front of baby Face. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.360 So I came back and said back down. Baby Face 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:11.840 looked at me, said I took guts in baby Face fashion, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.160 right right. And then somebody went on stage after me 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.880 and did a whole fifteen minutes about me and my outfit. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.640 So listen. That's comedy. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.160 You gotta you gotta yeah, you gotta have a lightheartedness 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:27.040 and a thick skin. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.160 You of all people can do stand up. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.319 Okay, say I received it. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.240 And you've got when you go up, I'm. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.760 Coming absolutely not. You will do it like anonymously. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:45.440 How about we do it together? Okay, okay, we just 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.920 picked we just we pick a spot. We'll go somewhere 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:48.880 on lancashim or. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.160 Go or maybe seasoned. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:51.520 I'm not. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.959 I'm not season jumping together. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:59.319 Just nobody. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not known as 0:11:59.320 --> 0:11:59.840 a comedian. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.760 Clearly you are because when I told someone I was that, 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.640 somebody said, tank to comedian, the comedian, let's do it together. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.880 You have way more comedic hours than I do. I know. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:09.760 That's for a fact. 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.880 Okay, I have some material. Let's let's yeah listen. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.080 And then you have the trump card when you go 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.000 into that person. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.199 Impersonations, it's a rap. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.920 Yeah, yeah, it is a rap. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:32.160 That's the that's the it's number one love and comedy impersonations. No, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.079 I can do a couple, but they're I'm like, great, 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:36.040 can I hear him? 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.720 No? But who do you do? 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:39.960 Though? 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.480 Just so I know, who's your who can you impersonate? 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.800 I do Quincy Jones? 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.880 I could, I could already imagine that you would do that. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.199 Well, I stole that from Jamie. I do Quincy Jones, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.840 and uh, that might be it. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.040 Quincy Jones is really big on horoscopes too. I met 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.319 him and he asked what my sign was. Yes, Devin, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.040 my husband with his sign was that's a thing for him. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.280 You know, quiz is different. Okay, all right, so let's 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.800 do this. Let's go at the beginning. Yeah, let's start 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:12.000 at the beginning, all right, the early Jade is it? 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.839 Jade? Nova isn't isn't birth name? 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.400 That is not my birth name. That is my given name. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:26.839 Okay, gave it to you. Let me get so, where 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.080 does Jaye Novah come from? 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.560 Well, Jade, I'm really into like stars, and I'm really 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.680 into crystals and all that, and Jade is like the 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.440 stone that represents femininity and love. And and then Nova 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.120 I'm into the cosmos and Nova is an exploding star. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.080 So I just put those two together and then added 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.480 in h at the end, because why went not you? 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:55.880 That is really cool? Tank stellar tank cutless Nova. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:13:59.559 This guy. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:03.959 Well played. 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:12.559 The beginning. Let's go back to oh Hire Cleveland. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:17.079 From Cleveland, Ohio, born and raised, born and raised. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.200 I have one question. Do you know Tasha? 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.040 I mean, of course Cleveland. 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.640 I just need to know if you know Tasha. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:26.680 I don't know her person. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.000 I always wanted to meet Tasha. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.720 Maybe you guys should have her on the shows. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:35.120 How you have to listen to that, to to those 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:40.600 few bars, like really listen to them to understand how 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:41.800 trap those. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.600 Bars you're talking about Tasha's bar. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.840 Absolutely, they literally say, hey, come here, come here, come here, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.360 get Tasha, come sing. Just just just sing that we 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.040 hear you know what I'm saying, Just sing that ship 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:54.680 all right? 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.360 Literally just that. And she definitely had a beard in 0:14:58.400 --> 0:14:58.760 her hand. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.320 Yeah, probably shout. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.720 So in the beginning, where does this love for music 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.760 come from? Where? Did? Where? Where do you find this? 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.720 I mean? I grew up in a musical family. Like 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.440 my dad, he plays guitar, he plays keys, and he sings, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.720 and he was in a rock band when he was younger. Actually, 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.720 so I grew up listening to a lot of rock 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.840 and roll. And my mother just loved Broadway musical She 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.360 had like all the Broadway musicals on vinyl, and yeah, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.320 my sisters sing, So that was just sort of a 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.320 love language in our house, Like we just sang like 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.240 kind of like the Black Partridge Family, well, the Jackson Puff. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.920 I don't know why I said the Black Partners because 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.120 there's clearly an option for that. But yeah, we were 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.240 like just a musical family. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.600 And was it was it church related or it was. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.200 Just more so not so much church related. That came 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.600 a little later in life, but yeah, just singing around. 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.680 Pe would go to nursing homes and perform. My dad 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.880 would write songs and me and my sister would sing 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.120 in a way. So I've always been singing. That's always 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.720 been That's always been my singing lead. Oh I was. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:11.280 I was definitely the Beyonce of the group. She was, Yeah, 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:11.720 she was. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.320 And is your sister? Does she still sing with you? 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.000 No, both my sisters did at the time, and no, 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:16.880 neither one of them do. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:17.240 No. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.520 One's a nurse and one is a full time mother 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:20.080 of six. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:27.440 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she spent her time raising that family. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.560 She was listening to the R and B clearly. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.720 Yeah. So when was the separation though for you where 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:38.520 you were like this could be a career for me 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.240 or someone identified you as just being different than everybody else. 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.440 Well, I was in a girl group and it started 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.920 off with my sisters actually, and then they went off 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.840 and started doing their own thing, and then the woman 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.320 who was managing us at the time just started bringing 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.560 in different girls. I mean, I feel like they were 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.480 probably over the because I was in this girls group 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.680 from the time I was like eight years old to 0:16:58.800 --> 0:16:59.840 eighteen years old. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:00.440 What. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.000 Yeah, And in that whole time, there was probably about 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.160 twelve girls who came and win. I was the only 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.720 one who stayed in that whole time. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.080 So that was my name in the group change or 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:12.120 was it the same name? 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.359 The total package for ten years for ten years. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.320 Yeah, and they just kept repackaging. That's good. I mean 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:20.160 they were trying, you. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.640 Know, yeah, yeah, they were trying to find the right Yeah. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.760 But that was that was my I guess you would 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:30.359 say church or boot camp and sort of learning how 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.359 the industry worked and learning how to record in the studio. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.080 That's pretty much all we did was record demos in 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.240 the studio. And yeah, so ten years of my childhood 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.000 and Cleveland in Cleveland. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.120 Yep, did you guys perform anywhere? 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.840 Very rarely? We did. We did showcases around like Gerald LeVert, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.919 he was I wouldn't say he was a part of it, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.760 but he definitely supported and like whenever he had things 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.480 would allow us to come and sing, and we recorded 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.920 at Trouble, which was his studio in Cleveland on ninety 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.720 third and way shout out. But yeah, Joe Little like 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.440 a lot of those he produced some of my first 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.560 records when I was when I was a kid, Joe 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.800 was that guy. Yeah, he's so talented. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:12.680 Man. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.760 There's so much in Cleveland and these are the guys 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.840 that I was learning from and just working with as 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.000 a kid and in the studio almost every day. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.920 Yeah, that's crazy. Eight to eighteen yep. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.879 And then I hated it. I didn't like the way. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.960 They hated singing. I had like, what part about it 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:31.400 did you hate? 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.840 But the industry was different back then, you know, like 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.840 there was no social media and it was just this 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.879 goal to get signed to a major label. You know, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.600 there was really only one sort of trajectory to find 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.440 success at that time, and so everything that kind of 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.280 went along with it, especially being in a group, because 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.640 the group was very much you know, manufactured, like how 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.400 most groups were, where everyone kind of had this role 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.760 that they played that was kind of predetermined. And since 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.240 I'm a kid, like I didn't really know myself enough 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.679 to know who I was and how I wanted to 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.160 show up. I wasn't writing anything. I wasn't picking out 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.200 my clothes. I didn't name the group clearly because I 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.880 wouldn't have went with total package, no shape. But I'm 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.919 just saying like I just didn't have any creative control 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.720 whatsoever and that and so I didn't like that part. 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.919 I didn't like feeling like I had to be this 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.560 sort of intriloquis dummy to do my art, you know, 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.040 carrying out someone else's vision and it's coming out in 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:26.400 my mouth. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:26.520