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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks take MATOCHI. We are the authority on all things

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Speaker 1: R and B.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. Money is Tank Valentine. This it's the

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Speaker 3: R and B Money Podcast. It is the authority on

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Speaker 3: all things.

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Speaker 4: What it is R Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got talent

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Speaker 4: in the building. Yeah, it's shining. You see, I got

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Speaker 4: glasses on.

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Speaker 3: You see it is it somewhere shine? It's the gifts

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Speaker 3: are in the buildings. They are Are you well rounded?

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Speaker 1: Huh hm hmmm. Do you know your chart?

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Speaker 3: Do you do you know either?

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Speaker 1: Can you do it all? Man? Don't look shy?

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Speaker 3: Sang it, sing it, write it, write it, acted, produce it,

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Speaker 3: promote it.

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Speaker 1: Doing impression up, doing impression up?

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Speaker 5: Guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but wait, you don't know your chart, your birth chart?

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Speaker 2: Do you all know what time you were born?

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Speaker 1: Now you know what? Let's get into the interview. No,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. No, listen to it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: any of that.

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Speaker 4: I went for any of those women in my DMS

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out my chart. I will never tell

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Speaker 4: you because I don't know it.

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Speaker 3: I was the seventh baby born on January first, I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 1: None of that was in the morning.

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Speaker 5: But you don't know what's time.

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Speaker 1: Seven seventeen.

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Speaker 4: I do know that my father caught a charge on

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Speaker 4: the day I was born, because I seen his police record.

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Speaker 1: Is that does that? Did that do anything.

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Speaker 2: Significant?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely had some astrological significance.

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Speaker 4: I was just randomly looking at his rap sheet one

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Speaker 4: day and I'm like, Dad, are you serious?

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Speaker 1: Man? This is my birthday?

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Speaker 2: Man trying to get to you.

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Speaker 1: He had to, you know, he ad something on him

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Speaker 1: and you know he.

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Speaker 2: Got you know, yeah, a little celebratory.

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Speaker 1: No, not celebratory fireworks.

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Speaker 2: Maybe for another time, we'll discuss a gunshote.

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Speaker 3: Geez doctor goal slap, slap my son on the back.

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Speaker 1: So pull it out on. Hit him again, See what happened?

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Speaker 1: Hit him again? See what happened? How you doing? J good?

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Speaker 1: I just seen you.

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Speaker 2: I did. I seen you at south By Southwest talking

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Speaker 2: in a little fireside chat and dropping gems.

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Speaker 3: And enough fireside chat. Shout out to Alex Haike over

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Speaker 3: a sound Royalties.

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Speaker 1: Out there talking about man.

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Speaker 3: Man, we're talking about the business man and and getting

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Speaker 3: into the ideas of ownership and in ways that the

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Speaker 3: business can help you and find ways that people don't

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Speaker 3: really know or are able to tap into it.

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Speaker 1: Sound.

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Speaker 3: Royalty is a one those places that people don't really

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Speaker 3: totally understand how it helps you, how it can help

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Speaker 3: you sustain your business and grow your business and all

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Speaker 3: of these types of things without having to give away ownership.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's where I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing a panel, and what you're doing here

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Speaker 1: is getting the penalty.

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Speaker 4: Now we have an example of independence, a clear example

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Speaker 4: of independence how you can thrive dependently.

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Speaker 3: But also, like you know, I think you know, there

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Speaker 3: are so many I mean, there's so many ways of

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Speaker 3: skin a cat, but I think you've done it in

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Speaker 3: such a way where you've led.

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Speaker 2: With your talent that analogy scared me. Do we do

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Speaker 2: we have another option for skinning cats as a vegan?

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Speaker 2: I find that.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Peter agreed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but but they didn't eat the cat. It

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Speaker 3: just just okay, let's just get.

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Speaker 1: Their hair, cam.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I.

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Speaker 1: Didn't eat the cat. I don't know part of it.

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Speaker 1: It's getting the cat. I'm scared. I'm scared of peed.

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Speaker 1: It more than one way to chop down the tree.

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Speaker 2: That's still that's not good for the environment.

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Speaker 3: All right, Okay, there's there's more than one way.

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Speaker 1: To be successful, or you could be literal that's yes, and.

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Speaker 3: You've I think I feel and I'm sure most would agree,

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Speaker 3: you've let with your talent, like in a in a

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Speaker 3: leading with a whole lot of other things, like what

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Speaker 3: shock value? Ass you know, I'll stop there shock value and.

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Speaker 2: Ask maybe that's their talent, maybe because some people are

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Speaker 3: But where I come from, you had to be able

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Speaker 3: to sing to turn all that ship off. It'll be

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Speaker 3: a sing thank god you and write a song that's

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Speaker 3: that ship like nobody's business. But you're also a unicorn

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Speaker 3: in the fact that you act and you do all

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Speaker 3: of these comedic things and have to commit like that.

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Speaker 3: Now you're now you're just showing off. Ah, Now you're

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Speaker 3: just showing you're.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to talk. I told my friend I was

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Speaker 2: coming out here and I was like, yeah, Tank, And

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Speaker 2: like the comedian Tank, I'm like, wa, yes, yes, somebody cool.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's really cool. One standup?

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Speaker 6: What you doing?

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Speaker 2: Stand up? Now?

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Speaker 1: I've been doing stand up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna have to like, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: pick your brain on that because I'm getting ready. I'm

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Speaker 2: ready for stand up.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you there's there There is no like blueprint,

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Speaker 3: Like everybody's gonna have different advice for you right in

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Speaker 3: different you know.

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Speaker 1: Just do it. I know what's the worst that can happen?

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Speaker 2: I know, yeah, getting heckled, But I mean I think

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Speaker 2: that's a part of the process. Like Chappelle, the most

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Speaker 2: incredible storyteller comedian of our time, gets heck You.

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Speaker 1: Can rebuttle a heckle.

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Speaker 3: You're fast and witty enough to get back into It's

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Speaker 3: not what you think it is.

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Speaker 1: I just can't see j being like, shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 2: Most certainly I sold the crowd during an R and

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Speaker 2: B concert to shut the fuck up. If the energy

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Speaker 2: isn't right, I will call it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we gotta get back to that job.

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Speaker 4: How do you tell the R and B? Because I've

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Speaker 4: been to your show, Yeah, I could not imagine you

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Speaker 4: in the middle of that show where it's like stars

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Speaker 4: and beautiful things and lights.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Gemini. I mean, I don't know what that

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Speaker 2: means to you.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what this means.

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Speaker 2: He seems very anti astrology.

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Speaker 1: I have a daughter that's a Gemini. I know exactly

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Speaker 2: Yes, we can.

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Speaker 1: What's your day? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: May thirtieth, My daughter's May twenty six made Gemini. So

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Speaker 2: when emerald gem is what I like to call us

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Speaker 2: because the Burthstone, And okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell her. You know you're an Emerald. I'm

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Speaker 3: call her as soon as we fits. No, it's just

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Speaker 3: I think, just literally just jump. You have the material, like,

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Speaker 3: you know you're funny. You know you're funny, and so

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Speaker 3: it's just discovering how funny you are in this space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it trusts me.

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Speaker 3: It goes a long way when you can get on

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Speaker 2: How long have you been doing stand up though, Shah?

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Speaker 1: I started years ago? Yeah, shit, close to.

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Speaker 2: Eight nine years old, you've been doing this.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea, but I literally jumped off the roof.

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Speaker 3: Literally I had. I had never been on stage before.

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Speaker 3: And Chris Spencer is getting ready to go up in

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Speaker 1: Damn was that eight years ago?

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Speaker 3: That's more than eight years ago probably, And that was

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Speaker 3: more than eight years ago, and Chris and I was like, bro,

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Speaker 3: He's liked, you want to open? I was like this, man, no,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't be doing those those things. You

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Speaker 3: I want to open. He's like, then shut the funk up.

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Speaker 3: I said no, I want to open for real. He

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Speaker 3: I was like, all right, cool. And I sat there

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Speaker 3: On the spot, yeah what I thought with jokes anyway.

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Speaker 3: So I start writing these jokes and these moms or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And so I get there and I'm like, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I say, Chris, I'm like, yes, So what's up? So

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Speaker 3: what time do I go on? He was like this,

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: I want to open? He's like, man, come outside. So

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Speaker 3: He's like, cause this is what you should do if

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Speaker 2: And how many minutes did you prepare?

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Speaker 3: I prepared, Like see, that's the thing. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: I don't know back to songwriting, yes, not knowing when

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Speaker 3: It was completely foreign to me. I just know I

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Speaker 3: But I also knew that I was a storyteller, so

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Speaker 3: if I needed to extend, I could just I don't

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Speaker 3: make up some shit whatever. And so when I get there,

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Speaker 3: there are other opening acts. I thought it was going

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Speaker 3: to be me and then him, there are other comedians

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Speaker 3: and when I say they are going crazy, they are

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Speaker 3: before I go on, or performing good in the R

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Speaker 3: and B space, I know what to do to combat that.

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Speaker 3: Take a shirt off.

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Speaker 2: That's my method.

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Speaker 1: Yeahga's your comedy right there.

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Speaker 3: So I never I had never followed a comedian that

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Speaker 3: was killing. So I said, if you could give me

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Speaker 3: three patrons, just three outs, three of them, Just just

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Speaker 3: line me up with three shots of patron really quick,

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Speaker 3: because this thing is going crazy. I don't know what's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen when I get up there, pads, patrons, He

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Speaker 3: called me up to do this set, called me up

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Speaker 3: do my set, and I do my set, and it's

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Speaker 3: one of those things where anything that could go right

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Speaker 3: went right. It was a magical moment, like literally like

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Speaker 3: my my ending joke. The girl that was supposed to

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Speaker 3: fucked around and slipped and fell off the stage.

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Speaker 1: And I said, that's my time, good night, and everybody's laughing,

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Speaker 1: going crazy like it got.

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Speaker 3: It was so crazy. Chris came on, he did it.

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Speaker 3: When he started his set, he did his first fifteen

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Almost got booed and it's inglewood, but that's a that's fine.

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Speaker 3: It happened, almost got booed in front of baby Face.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta yeah, you gotta have a lightheartedness

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Speaker 1: You of all people can do stand up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, say I received it.

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Speaker 1: And you've got when you go up, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Coming absolutely not. You will do it like anonymously.

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Speaker 3: How about we do it together? Okay, okay, we just

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Speaker 3: picked we just we pick a spot. We'll go somewhere

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Speaker 2: Go or maybe seasoned.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not season jumping together.

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Speaker 1: Just nobody. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not known as

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Speaker 2: Clearly you are because when I told someone I was that,

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Speaker 1: You have way more comedic hours than I do. I know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have some material. Let's let's yeah listen.

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Speaker 7: Impersonations, it's a rap.

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Speaker 3: That's the that's the it's number one love and comedy impersonations. No,

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Speaker 3: I can do a couple, but they're I'm like, great,

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Speaker 2: No? But who do you do?

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Speaker 2: Just so I know, who's your who can you impersonate?

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Speaker 2: I could, I could already imagine that you would do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I stole that from Jamie. I do Quincy Jones,

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Speaker 3: You know, quiz is different. Okay, all right, so let's

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Speaker 3: at the beginning, all right, the early Jade is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, Jade, I'm really into like stars, and I'm really

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Speaker 1: That is really cool? Tank stellar tank cutless Nova.

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Speaker 4: This guy.

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Speaker 8: Well played.

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Speaker 1: The beginning. Let's go back to oh Hire Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: From Cleveland, Ohio, born and raised, born and raised.

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Speaker 1: I have one question. Do you know Tasha?

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I just need to know if you know Tasha.

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Speaker 2: I don't know her person.

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to meet Tasha.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you guys should have her on the shows.

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Speaker 3: How you have to listen to that, to to those

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they literally say, hey, come here, come here, come here,

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Speaker 3: get Tasha, come sing. Just just just sing that we

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Speaker 1: Literally just that. And she definitely had a beard in

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Speaker 2: been That's always been my singing lead. Oh I was.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she spent her time raising that family.

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Speaker 2: She was listening to the R and B clearly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So when was the separation though for you where

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Speaker 2: Well, I was in a girl group and it started

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Speaker 2: The total package for ten years for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just kept repackaging. That's good. I mean

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: There's so much in Cleveland and these are the guys

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Speaker 1: Who wouldn't let you leave?

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Speaker 2: Child? Don't get me in trouble.

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Speaker 2: No, I tried, and then they tried to sue my family.

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried to leave. They would not let me

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think sometimes people, you know, they see the dream

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Speaker 4: And since you're in the contract.

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Speaker 2: And I've invested so much in you, you can't leave.

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Speaker 2: Well that's pretty much what it came to. And I

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Speaker 2: that's that's really well. Actually I went through a period

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00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: of just I went to college. I just didn't Most

448
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 2: people who knew me at the time didn't even really

449
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: know that I sang or had ambitions for it, Like

450
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: I was just going to school, like I would do

451
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: talent shows and stuff, but it wasn't like a true ambition.

452
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 2: And then do you guys know Yanni the producing ya

453
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 2: you know I have made I've made some YouTube videos

454
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: around that time. I just played around and he saw

455
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: it and I was like, Yo, you're in Cleveland, like

456
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 2: come and like reference some stuff for us. We have

457
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: this this writing camp called the Skeleton crew Man and

458
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: like just come reference and I was like you know what,

459
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: and he's like, well, i'll pay you. I'm like, don't

460
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: pay me, just let me write too, cause I've never

461
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: been given the opportunity to do that. Like I've always

462
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: been carrying out someone else's songs and singing other people

463
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry, singing other people's song and carrying

464
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: out other people's visions. So he was like cool. So

465
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: he just started giving me tracks. And I was trash

466
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: at first, but he just believed in me and just

467
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: gave me the space. And I was driving to Cleveland

468
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: from I went to Kent State at the time, and

469
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: I would drive that hour to Yanni's studio and write

470
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: and just really work at it. And I became so

471
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: passionate about it, and I started falling in love with

472
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: it and again and realizing like, Okay, I can do

473
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: this if I have control over it, you know, and

474
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: get to be creative and take up space. You know.

475
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: I fell in love with it, and that was really

476
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: the thing that shifted my trajectory again and falling in

477
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 2: love with music again was Yanni was Oh God. The

478
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 2: first song I wrote with Yanni was called oh God,

479
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's so many trash ones that there

480
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 2: were so many no I have And I found like

481
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: a little drive the other day that had all those songs,

482
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wow, he really had vision because it

483
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: was trash.

484
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: I was trash. I listened to my early tracks like.

485
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: That processes is real.

486
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 4: That process is real, and it's you know, and it's

487
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: also a testament to the people who stay, who stay

488
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 4: in it right, because nobody's first song or their first

489
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: track or you know, the first thing that they do

490
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 4: really sounds good ultimately, you know what I mean, You're

491
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 4: trying to get to somewhere. It's so funny when you

492
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: see people and they're like, yeah, that's the first song I

493
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 4: ever did.

494
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't really be believing.

495
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: It depending on how the age.

496
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: Well, I mean tanks first stand up, he kneeled, so

497
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: I guess it's possible.

498
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: That was definitely luck. That was That was also to

499
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: I think with.

500
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 4: It might have been his first time going on stage,

501
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: but it wasn't his first time kind of preparing.

502
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: His mind to right.

503
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the first time you put into paper

504
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 4: and decide I want to try to write a song,

505
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: saying that's your first my first time ever. I had

506
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 4: never written a song before, and I wrote the greatest

507
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 4: level of all.

508
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: No, you didn't did not write that song, you know

509
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: what I mean?

510
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 4: So that part, you know, I'll be listening, but I'll

511
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 4: be in my head.

512
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: I'm like you, But I love that process, so with

513
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: figuring it out and then watching how over time it

514
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 2: got better and better better, like it was, it was therapeutic.

515
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 8: I loved it.

516
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 6: I love it.

517
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: You have this pub deal now now you have some freedom,

518
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: and you found your man.

519
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 7: I did you know what I'm saying?

520
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: And that's and that's gotta be cool too, and yeah,

521
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: even in a in a creative space like that's gotta

522
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: be really.

523
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 4: Because you definitely married like one of the most talented

524
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: people I've ever met.

525
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: I did, because you know, we worked with him.

526
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: Wait when years ago before I want to say, maybe

527
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: before y'all even.

528
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: Were married, probably yeah, probably, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

529
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Devin's so he was like.

530
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy's really talented.

531
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's he doesn't even like to say that

532
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: he sings, and it bothers me, like when he goes

533
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: and talks about the things that he's done, he rarely

534
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: acknowledges the fact that he's also a vocalist and very

535
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: cool one.

536
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yea like Simpson.

537
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll take it. Yeah, that's babe.

538
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: That's so.

539
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 4: Did you guys immediately become a writing and production.

540
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Team pretty much? Yeah, like the first time we got

541
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: in the session together and I do remember the name

542
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: of the song we did. It was called cat Got

543
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: Your Tongue. It was very nasty, and he was just.

544
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 4: About, yeah, well that's the bring it on back, bring

545
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 4: it on back, and sometimes they got to get.

546
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: Skinned a.

547
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: Tchet, but yeah, he I just thought he was a

548
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: writer because he did a co write with me. But

549
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: then I discovered all of the layers and any talents

550
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: of Devin Johnson and I'm like, yo, I want to

551
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: work with you. And he's honestly who inspired me to

552
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: want to be an artist because I.

553
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: Was not an artist at this point.

554
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: I was just writing and I had no desire to

555
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: be an artist whatsoever. And he's like, you're crazy. He's like,

556
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: no one's going to sing these songs like you like,

557
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: let's do this, Let's do something. And he inspired me

558
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: to start the solo stuff. He's like, you already have

559
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: some stuff on YouTube, Like let's just keep going from there.

560
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: And that was the vision, Like we'll do some covers,

561
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 2: I'll reproduce them. You don't have to like all of

562
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: the anxieties that I had around being an artist, like oh,

563
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: the control or the label. He's like, nah, we could

564
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: do this independent like that was always the goal. He's like,

565
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna own this. Let's just do this thing. Because

566
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: he had come from being an artist. He was signed

567
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: to Motown and he was able to get out of

568
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: his deal. So we both had similar experiences and just

569
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: kind of switched roles and he's like, I know it

570
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: from this perspective, you know it from that perspective. Let's

571
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: bring all of our knowledge together and like do something

572
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: that hasn't been done and like just really take advantage

573
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: of social media. And so he would reproduce the covers

574
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: that we would do. We were very strategic about trying

575
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: to do songs that didn't have music videos yet, and

576
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: then we would put them out first and we would

577
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: go viral like that was the That was the formula.

578
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: So if y'all found a song that was cracking but

579
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: they didn't have no video to.

580
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: It, yeah you was the video to it, do it.

581
00:27:51,760 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: And we would play official video and get it. So

582
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: it was Rihanna Diamonds came out and he he heard it.

583
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: He sent we gotta do this right now. So we

584
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: hurried up and did it and shot a video like

585
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: two days later and put it up and then had

586
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: like thirteen million views and it was on Rolling Stone

587
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: like everything, like it was a whole thing.

588
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Did y'all ever get a cease and desist?

589
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: No? No, I mean there are covers and it's YouTube,

590
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: and YouTube was still like not what it is now,

591
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: like where they can take your things down, but you're still.

592
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: Like cutting into the to the market.

593
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: Share million light.

594
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

595
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: It was kind of crazy. Yeah, I mean the video

596
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: wasn't the greatest, but it was what.

597
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you're just tapping into the to the early

598
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: connection of that song and people just wanting to see

599
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: it or hear it wherever it is.

600
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like, I came in for Rihanna, but

601
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: I kind of fuck with it.

602
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

603
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was the formula to call you.

604
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 8: Well.

605
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: I ended up singing back from for Rihanna, not mainly

606
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: because of.

607
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: That, but I mean she knew you knew the words

608
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: your part last time, you know your damn part. Right,

609
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: here's a there's a question I have for you.

610
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: Because here's a question I have for you because a

611
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: lot of times.

612
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: Producers get accused.

613
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: Of using their their their gifts, and their their songs

614
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: to romanticize.

615
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: A woman. We get accused of this. They only want

616
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: to do a late night session because I'm a girl.

617
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: How did he How did he sway.

618
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: You we should do a late night session?

619
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Cats?

620
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely it was me. Yeah, Devin wasn't really interested in me.

621
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: No, it was you. I take that shot.

622
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes I did and it didn't work. It didn't go

623
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: so well. What do you mean he rejected me? He

624
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: did the first time.

625
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should just really focus on I

626
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: think we should really focus on the music in the business.

627
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: And it wasn't even that. I think he was like

628
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: talking to someone at the time, and he was just like,

629
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: I just want to see He was just so honest,

630
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: you know, because she didn't even live in Atlanta. He's like,

631
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: I just want to kind of see where it's going.

632
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: And didn't go anywhere, and I waited, We'll see how

633
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: that plays, just keeping quirky.

634
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: Did you break out your crystals on him?

635
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: I didn't. I wasn't super I wasn't there quite yet.

636
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean I guess I was because I was starting

637
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: the J and Over thing. But it's almost like the

638
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: name chose me, because then I started to sort of

639
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: become a lot more to those things as time went on,

640
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: like so Yeah, I didn't. I didn't put any spells

641
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: on him yet, but yeah I did. It didn't take long.

642
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: Wow, that man be out here producing and mixing and

643
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 4: writing and playing musical. I love it.

644
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: I call him the husband because he played.

645
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: Really good the Husbandand have you seen the show live?

646
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: No, I went.

647
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: I went to see the show live. It's really cool

648
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: they got. They put together a really dope show. You

649
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: guys put together a really really dope yank you.

650
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah. Storytelling has always been a big passion

651
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: for both of us, so just the synergy, it just

652
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: made sense.

653
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so let's get to Jay Novak. Yeah, let's

654
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: get there.

655
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: And in the first project, your first outing, building, your

656
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: first moment, what went into that.

657
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: It's all blue, right, the first Yes, the first project

658
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: really just from the years of doing covers and like

659
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: mixtapes and things like that over the years. It took

660
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: a while. I think it was twenty eighteen, so literally

661
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: six years after we had been working to put out

662
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: the project. But yeah, it was. We had moved to

663
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: it to LA in that time, so like twenty fifteen,

664
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: we moved to LA and that's when our minds just

665
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: started changing and we started unlearning a lot of things

666
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: and just kind of being around more like minded people.

667
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: LA changed some things for me, and All Blue was

668
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: like the manifestation of that change in me, which is

669
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: why I was saying, like I think I kind of

670
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: became Jay Nova like in that time that I was

671
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: in LA, Like really yeah, transformed and All Blue was

672
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: just the embodiment of that for sure.

673
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: And how do you feel like it was received?

674
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: It was really well received. It debuted number two independently

675
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: on the iTunes. Is it really well? Is it really

676
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: really well? And I'm really proud of it. That's my baby.

677
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: All Blue is probably my favorite project still to this day.

678
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: So for you guys now going into the space of

679
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: releasing your own music, can you give us a little

680
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: bit of insight of how that went right?

681
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Being your own.

682
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: Label rocess, putting your own money up like you know,

683
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: because everybody yells independent, everybody yells independent or you know

684
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: what I should or shouldn't do, but they don't really

685
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: know all the things that go into that. Being your

686
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: own publicist, your own marketing department, figuring out content. Can

687
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: you give us a little bit of insight, you know,

688
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: just did you guys put together a budget starting off,

689
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: or were you just like, you know, whatever come in

690
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: we putting toward this.

691
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were really winging it early on, like I

692
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: And it's funny because we went to your fireside chat

693
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: at south By Southwest where you were talking about if

694
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: you knew what you know now then, like about setting

695
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: up a business and like really putting things into place

696
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: to really run your stuff like a true business. You know.

697
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: I wish that I had known what I knew now

698
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: then because we were just kind of winging it, and

699
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: we were taking advantage of more non traditional ways to

700
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: get visibility. So like the covers for example, or my

701
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: comedy for example, which is another thing that Devin sort

702
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: of encouraged me to do, like yo, it's all going

703
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: to feed itself. Because I'm thinking, like, okay, well if

704
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: I do comedy, are people going to be able to

705
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: take music seriously? But He's like, not, like it's a thing,

706
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: like it's all you, it's authentic. Just keep showing up,

707
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: like you know, authentically. And so those were the things

708
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: that gave us the visibility, that gave us this social

709
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: following for people to just organically want to tap into

710
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: the music. But we did do a distribution deal with

711
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: the first project, so we went through Empire, so we

712
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: had help on that front, so it wasn't like we were,

713
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: you know, doing it alone. Yeah, and Tina had just

714
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: come on at the time, so yeah, it was we

715
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: had help and we had set it up in a

716
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: way to where we had already done. Some of the

717
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: project was done, the album was done, the like, everything

718
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: was ready to go. They were just there to really

719
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: just help us handle more of the administrative things that

720
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: you were talking about, like the PR.

721
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: And the marketing.

722
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, though we were independent, we definitely had that

723
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: help with the distribution. But yeah, I think now though

724
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm more we're more in a space of doing things

725
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: completely independently, you know, like where we're handling our own

726
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: budget allocations and marketing and running ads and more of

727
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: the business side of things that I would have loved

728
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: for us to have done back then because then we

729
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: would have you know, we've all been ours at the time.

730
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 2: But you know, you live, you learn.

731
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: And what was your standout Your standout track from this from.

732
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: From the new project, from All Blue Blue, I mean,

733
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: I think the most popular one was All Blue, but

734
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: my favor it was Cosmic Love Into it, Yes, cosmically

735
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: was that purposely done?

736
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: What now for you to find that space in music

737
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: for you?

738
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Right?

739
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: Because they have you know, people have toxic music, people

740
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: have you know, people have you know, nasty music, people

741
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 4: have cosmic music.

742
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, but what's that what

743
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: you sought after?

744
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: Like, okay, you know what I want to make my

745
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: projects and my music about this.

746
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: I want to put this into the songs.

747
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that was the intention by this At this point,

748
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: Devin and I were already married, I think three years

749
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: when the project came out, and I saw the beauty

750
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: of partnership. I saw healthy, a healthy love that I

751
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: honestly had never experienced before. And so, like you said,

752
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: the narrative in music is this divisive mindset, like especially

753
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: hip hop and some R and B. You know right now,

754
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: it's not promoting black love. It's just it's very angry,

755
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, we need to show and we

756
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: need to be a light in this industry that doesn't

757
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: have much of that. So it was very much intentional

758
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: to be to be cosmic, to be a light, to

759
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: be high vibrational, like that's that's always been the goal

760
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: because it's authentic to who we are and music there

761
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: is like a spell, you know, the things that you

762
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: say over and over and over again. Lyrics are like mantras.

763
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: And I just didn't want to be responsible for poisoning

764
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: anyone with something that is low vibrational or that leads

765
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: to their brokenness.

766
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't and also isn't you it is? Yeah,

767
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I'm not saying that isn't

768
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 4: you like giving them something that you know, because there

769
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: are artists who are just they sign up for what

770
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: they sign up for, and they whatever the song is,

771
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: like it's a hit record, they're gonna sing it.

772
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nah, I will say no with the quickness. But

773
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: I guess that's the advantage of being able to write

774
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: your own stuff, right, you know, and not having to

775
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: because that's what it would have been for me if

776
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: I had continued in that group and stayed, you know,

777
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: living under someone else's mission.

778
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: But you also have to decide what you're willing to

779
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: live with too, Yeah, because you know, it may be

780
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: it may be lucrative to sing this song that's outside

781
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: of your existence in a sense, but for you, it's like,

782
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd rather live and die with me sure,

783
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: and that's a hard decision to make.

784
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it depends on what you want out

785
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: of it, you know, Like my idea of success has

786
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: changed over the years, and I am My idea of

787
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: success is only doing the things that make me happy.

788
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: I don't have to be at a Beyonce level of

789
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: visibility for me to feel like I've arrived. I feel

790
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: like I've arrived because I have found my tribe and

791
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm able to be authentic. That matters so much more

792
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: to me than having something that might be universally accepted.

793
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: But I'm miserable singing it all the time. Like if

794
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm not happy, then what's the point even if I

795
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: do have this, you know, from the outside looking in

796
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: crazy level of success, like is it really success?

797
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: Listen, the greatest mindset but not normal.

798
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: You don't think now, like in this day and age

799
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: with all these independent creatives, that.

800
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: That is I think that.

801
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: I think that as I think that because there's so

802
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: much more money and independence, people are willing to do

803
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 3: anything to get the money. Now they haven't like nobody's

804
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: zoned in on the Oh this is me. People have

805
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: zoned in on oh this is where the bag is

806
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: and so that's been the excuse for people doing everything.

807
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: But look at my bag, though, people will throw that out.

808
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: Fast, like what kind of things were they? Like, where

809
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: are they getting this bag from?

810
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm curious, I mean from streaming, I mean from YouTube,

811
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: from streaming, from listen, big business, from fortune. Five hundred

812
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: companies have bought into the ratchet. You you can get sponsorship,

813
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: but the bullshit.

814
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely that's crazy.

815
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: And see I always looked at it like music wasn't

816
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: really the cash cow. Like music, of all the things

817
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: that I do, I probably make the least for music

818
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: unless it's touring. You know. I think brand deals are

819
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: just again like more of the business of what we've

820
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: created and not looking cause yeah, that's where the mindset

821
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: shift came for me. Like there was a time where

822
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm an artist, I must be mysterious,

823
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: and you know, all these antiquated ideas of what it

824
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: is to be an artist and not really understanding where

825
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: we're shifting to. And so a lot of people hurt

826
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: themselves by still trying to perpetuate that same idea of

827
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: what it is to be an artist. And all I'm

828
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: only going, you know, I don't need TikTok or social media.

829
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm just going to post a couple of times and

830
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 2: do X, Y and Z, and it's like, okay, cool,

831
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: you can do that, or you can take the ego

832
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: out of it and figure out how to make an

833
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 2: actual business out of what you do. And there are

834
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 2: so many moving parts, and if you were doing anything,

835
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: you have to do some things that you don't necessarily love.

836
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: And I don't mean like in an integrity sake. I

837
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: just see as far as the work you know to

838
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: get where you have to go, and a lot of

839
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: people don't want to do it, which is why a

840
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: lot of people end up just signing deals because they

841
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: can just be a vessel for someone else's agenda. And

842
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: I just I can't do that shit.

843
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: You're preaching now, Yeah, you're preaching them you talk to talk.

844
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 4: I can't, Yeah, because what you're saying should be followed.

845
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: In my opinion, even if you do decide to do

846
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 4: a deal somewhere, that's fine, but you have to do

847
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: the work. You gotta do the work if you really

848
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 4: and truly believe it in your artistry and you want

849
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: the world to see it. When all these things are

850
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: going on and everything that's going on in the world

851
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: posting that one time, unless I won't say in case,

852
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: but unless that's just you know who you are, and

853
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: that's fine, But you can't expect these results to come

854
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 4: from that type of work ethic.

855
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: And you can't just rely on social media either. You

856
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: have to build a community, and you have to get

857
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: their emails, and you have to get their phone numbers,

858
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: and you have to not only rely on social media

859
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: because social media might not be here one day. It's

860
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: about the connection and for people who are anti social

861
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: media and doing all the things that they have to

862
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: do to get there. It's like before social media, people

863
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: had to go out and do shows and ghrind you

864
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like there was there's always a hustle.

865
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: There is always going to be something that you have

866
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: to do if you really want to do it. And nowadays,

867
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: even with some of my major label peers, like you know,

868
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: they still have to do that stuff too. And then

869
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: the labels move reactively, so you still got to do

870
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: it whether or not you have a label behind you

871
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 2: or not, so you may as well do it. Everything

872
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: is changing and now they're literally waiting on you. So

873
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: if you if what are you doing it for? So

874
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: that's why I asked that question, like what are you?

875
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: What are you doing it for?

876
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, let's get to the second album.

877
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: Sure stages.

878
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: I love stages.

879
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, thank you?

880
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: That. Uh you were wild for somebody's.

881
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 7: Son again, something that's going on in social media and

882
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 7: making a song out.

883
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Of it, somebody's son. I was like, oh, somebody's son.

884
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 8: Oh god, no, not today, but yet that was a

885
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 8: I think that was my real introduction to that project.

886
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: Man, you know what I mean.

887
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, she's dope up, thank you, like

888
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: really really good. And and I don't like there's no

889
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: like with your projects, like in listening to your projects,

890
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 3: like there's no fall off, there's no saying where where

891
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: you know there's there's not a whole lot behind her,

892
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: whereas you consider a major project versus an independent project,

893
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 3: like your project is your project is competing in fighting

894
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: for real space. You know what I'm saying sonically lyrically

895
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. He's talking about the shows.

896
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: I haven't been to show. I want to go. But

897
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: if he say it's a show, it's definitely show because

898
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 3: he don't he don't go to shows.

899
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I bought March too. Maybe you signed my

900
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 4: T shirt? He don't do that, No, I don't.

901
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: So it's got to be a thing. If you got

902
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: the Valentine. I was in there away to stay away.

903
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 4: With all the cool lights. Yeah, they ain't even have

904
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: my size in March. You know what all y'all got left?

905
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: Is it?

906
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: Okay? She's been sending a lot of merch out here. Okay, cool,

907
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: give me the two X. It's fine. It's fine, Taylor,

908
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: It's fine. And what did you learn?

909
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: What or what more did you learn coming from your

910
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: first project to your second project that you felt it.

911
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: Was more useful. I learned.

912
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: That this really is a business. I don't even know

913
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: how much I want to get into what happened exactly,

914
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: but it was a very pivotal time for me. I

915
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: had started doing radio. Actually, I was hosting a morning

916
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: show on V one O three in Atlanta. Sure it was.

917
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: It was an experience.

918
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but uh huh.

919
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: I love Ready such a man man, he's a good

920
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: guy man. He took a chance on me, and you know,

921
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: it was a It was an interesting time because I

922
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: was learning a lot about myself. I wasn't really prepared

923
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: for that world quite yet and balancing still doing my artistry.

924
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: Like you have to wake up at three thirty every day,

925
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: three thirty camera ready, be there?

926
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, alright.

927
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Three thirty, be there at four ish to prep and

928
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: then I'm prepping with shade room articles like all this

929
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: low vibrational stuff. I mean, I get it, I understand,

930
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: but it just was so opposite of what I normally

931
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 2: consume and how I move about my day. And then

932
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, I have to be there until like noon,

933
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: and then I was touring on the weekend and it

934
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: was a lot. It was a lot, and I it

935
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: was it was meant like my mental health was dwindling.

936
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: I was holding on by like like it was. It

937
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: was rough so in that my output wasn't as great

938
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: as it should have been. It was taking me a

939
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: really long time to get the project together, and ultimately,

940
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: like Empire, myself decided to part ways, which was really

941
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: difficult for me because now I'm out here by myself.

942
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: Like I literally found out the day before somebody's son

943
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: was supposed to come out that I had already gotten

944
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: the song done and the artwork and everything, and They're like,

945
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: m no, just kind of let me and try with

946
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: this project. And then I'm like, okay, cool, I can

947
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: do this myself. I figured it out. We spent so

948
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: much money. We're doing a tour behind it, invested so

949
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: much money and time into it. I ended up leaving

950
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: the station because I just could and I didn't have

951
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: the capacity. And then the day before we were supposed

952
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: to go on tour, the world shut. Now, yeah, it

953
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: was a rough time. So I learned that regardless of

954
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: all these things going on, that business is still going

955
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: to operate as business, whether your mental health is able

956
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: to keep up or not. And yeah, it was a

957
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: really hard lesson, but we still put out the project independently,

958
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: like without anyone else, and it debuted number one that time.

959
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: Come on.

960
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: Completely independent. Well all the obstacles that we had gone through,

961
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: and it was a lot of them, but we still

962
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 2: put it out and it you know, the tour didn't

963
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: get to happen, But that time during quarantine allowed me

964
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: the opportunity to really just kind of revamp, learn more

965
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: about myself, you know, and just be more prepared.

966
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: Where were you Where were you doing quarantine?

967
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: And Atlanta? Thank god? Yeah, thank god it was Atlanta.

968
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 2: We had just moved back for the radio show. Actually,

969
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: what timing it was perfect time.

970
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: It was in Atlanta, Like cool, who's quarantine? Ya? Y'all?

971
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: Shut down? You shut y'all. We might shut it down,

972
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: but got down.

973
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: I don't know, no nigga name quarantine, nigga Nick come

974
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: around here and niggas gonna be up. Nigga, Tell me

975
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: I was that house down Atlanta strip clubs? Wow, wide open?

976
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: That's actually where I caught COVID. Yeah, almost died.

977
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

978
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Do you do anything?

979
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: Are you able to do anything pivotal like during Quarantine

980
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: with this project to to get the noise and the

981
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: buzz going for it.

982
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: Honestly, I started to shift more into comedy at that

983
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: got your I I had got my agent reached out

984
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: because SNL reached out, and they asked me to audition.

985
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: And they were like, would she audition because I know

986
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: she does music? Is this even a passion? We've seen

987
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: some of her videos? And I'm like, absolutely, I would.

988
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: And it was a very interesting process, especially because it

989
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: was during COVID. But yeah, I did the audition. I

990
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: auditioned twice and then I made it to test week

991
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: and I made it down to the final eight people

992
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: like I was very close to getting on that particular

993
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 2: season and it didn't end up happening. But I'm actually

994
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: grateful that it didn't. It it affirmed me in that, Okay,

995
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: this is definitely a space that I need to be.

996
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I knew it, but you know, like it

997
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: was it was the conference and I'm like, cool, this

998
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: did it? You know what I'm saying. So I'm like,

999
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: this is I want to really focus this time on this.

1000
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: And because it's more self contained, you know, we were

1001
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: just shooting stuff at home and I created it was

1002
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: called the Real Divas Series where I was like impersonating

1003
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: all these different divas Beyonce and Erica and they were

1004
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: in the house with COVID and it was just so can.

1005
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: You go from one to the other just quick?

1006
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: Quick? Quick? Yeah?

1007
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 4: Like like or do you need time to like how

1008
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: does that?

1009
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: How does that go? Oh?

1010
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 2: God, I don't know. I don't know. I've never had

1011
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: like a rapid fire.

1012
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could try, you know, I'm just saying, is

1013
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: that how you do it?

1014
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 6: Like?

1015
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: Are you?

1016
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1017
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying you.

1018
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: I mean, like you would like to, but I know

1019
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: I don't have one of them type of show.

1020
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, nigga dance.

1021
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: No, okay, even though the people in the comments be

1022
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 4: pretty much saying nigga dance, We're not like that.

1023
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I do one character at a time. I do,

1024
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: I do one character at a time. But that was

1025
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: that was the time when I was really honing in

1026
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 2: on it and yeah, just building it. And it supported

1027
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: the music too, because our numbers started going crazy just

1028
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: from these sketches that we were making, and so people

1029
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: were then going and listening to the music because ain't

1030
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: nobody else had antybody had shit to do, you know.

1031
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: So it was just that was what was starting to

1032
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: take more of the focus, was just the writing and

1033
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: the comedy.

1034
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Here's a question, were you monetizing that?

1035
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: Oh abso freaking.

1036
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: Where did you.

1037
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: Find it that there were more opportunities during that time?

1038
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: It's for that content, Yeah there was. And even in

1039
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: the music side, like I feel like I did so

1040
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: many virtual shows that I was getting crazy bad.

1041
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: He would do virtual He didn't want to do it,

1042
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: and I was.

1043
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: I was singing right in front of no one. I was,

1044
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: and I was, and I was getting the bread, I

1045
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: was look collecting the checks.

1046
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: I did one you didn't like it. I did, but

1047
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: I did it with my band, so that was the

1048
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: only way I would do it. I was like, man,

1049
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: I guess somebody gotta be in the room, bro.

1050
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: I mean I had my husband, you know, he was

1051
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 2: with me doing the stuff.

1052
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was just like my wife and my

1053
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: kids just sitting there looking at me like doing it.

1054
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to do that.

1055
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: And then my music is like sexual in nature, you

1056
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, just take my shirt

1057
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: off by myself.

1058
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: That's fun.

1059
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: Just be like rubbing all on me.

1060
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: Slur ya could have been myself, I feel it.

1061
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 3: But we did the Woman with the band, Donna, Keith

1062
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: Sweat's House, Uh, the Slash Studios Slash, uh Slash, Slash.

1063
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: Slash Slash. It was crazy.

1064
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: It was really dum yeah fun, but you know your

1065
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: comedy was going crazy.

1066
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: It was a hilarious.

1067
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, you got the ultimate trump card

1068
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: when it comes to stand up, Like dialing into these

1069
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: these characters is just gold. Like you know, with like

1070
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 3: Jamie Fox, you're putting yourself on that kind of level.

1071
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: That's the goal. That's the goal. And even in the

1072
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: show that Jay saw like if the show feels like

1073
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: a variety show. So we would go in and out

1074
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: of I mean not necessarily stand up, but kind of

1075
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: sort of just fun moments, and I would do the

1076
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: impersonations and you know, telling a story from beginning to end.

1077
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: So it was already there. It's just stand up.

1078
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 8: Is man.

1079
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: It's the same.

1080
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: And you actually are going to be You're you're better

1081
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 3: prepared for stand up because you already work the stage.

1082
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: You have the cheek.

1083
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I will take my shirt up

1084
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 7: and sing a minute.

1085
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: Say.

1086
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: They would that would have saved you? That wouldn't have

1087
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: saved you. No, I wasn't there. Thanks, don't make no

1088
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: money from comedy song. It was already.

1089
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: I see you when you get back to know I've

1090
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 4: been to a gang government. I actually haven't been to

1091
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: a gang government. And he's funny and I'm his real friend,

1092
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: like we have I'm like cheap.

1093
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: That was too far. We still got to sell some

1094
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: n B.

1095
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: You what do you talk about in your stand up? Like,

1096
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: just give me an example, like.

1097
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 3: I really go through like my family life. You know

1098
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like like like my wife, my kids,

1099
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I really tell those stories.

1100
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, tell you know, tell some

1101
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 3: music stories. You know what I'm saying. I got comedy

1102
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: that I do from the piano, got musical songs that

1103
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: are like, you know what I'm saying, I gotta, I gotta.

1104
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: I got a.

1105
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: Song called trash. We're talking about a woman's almost vagina.

1106
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: And it's called track.

1107
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: It's called I'm.

1108
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: Gonna need some context.

1109
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: We still got to sell R and B music, this

1110
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: nigga tripping, and that's the conversations that we had.

1111
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: But it was in the joke space. It worked.

1112
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: I'd be having reminded me still tanks, not on R

1113
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 3: and B stage, So I needless to say, I cut

1114
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: that joke out of.

1115
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: It went over very well. But we still got records.

1116
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: And you don't think you could from from that because

1117
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: that's only a specific person.

1118
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: I have enough jokes to where I didn't need to

1119
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: take a chance with that one.

1120
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1121
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, let me not. You know,

1122
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: women in here like me, so my trigger, my trigger.

1123
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: So this nigga told.

1124
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: Me, all right, so now let's focus. You have an

1125
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: album out now.

1126
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 6: The great singers.

1127
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: I can't that's not how no one does. I mean

1128
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: not people do, haven't.

1129
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't know? The mine is all.

1130
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: That was great, But yes, new album Who It Is?

1131
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: It described this process because it's got to be different

1132
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 3: from the first two.

1133
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: You've lived, you've.

1134
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: Learned, yes, and now you're talking about where I did,

1135
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 4: and now you're come on, now.

1136
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 2: Come on, where have I been? It is a concept album.

1137
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: It's like combining storytelling and contemporary R and B music.

1138
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 2: So it's a love language origin story. It's a journey

1139
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: to self love. So it goes back to my childhood

1140
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 2: and my dad has not been very verbal about love

1141
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: or words of affirmation. He wasn't like, oh I'm a

1142
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: pretty good my baby girl. That just wasn't his give.

1143
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: And I'm coming to find out that's a lot of

1144
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: people from that generation didn't really know how to verbalize

1145
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: love in that way. But that's kind of how my

1146
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: love language became words of affirmation because I didn't get

1147
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: it from him, so I was looking for it in

1148
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 2: all these other people. So it goes on this journey

1149
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: of how I navigated my relationships with sort of this

1150
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: kind of baseless thing of oh, if you tell me

1151
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: you love me or if you tell me that I'm pretty,

1152
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: then that's enough to make a relationship work and not

1153
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 2: you know, action behind it. And so ultimately I learned

1154
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: how to use words of affirmation to affirm myself and

1155
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: that's why it becomes this sort of self love journey.

1156
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: And I have really really amazing features on this project

1157
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: because I wrote it out like a script. I wanted

1158
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: it to feel like visuals through sound, and I wanted

1159
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: the project to be something that you could immerse yourself

1160
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: in and not have to have a screen like you

1161
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: know people are. We're in the age of where the visuals.

1162
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm want the visual system. It's like, nah, let the music.

1163
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be an audio experience, you know, when

1164
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: we come away from that so much and everyone's just

1165
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: kind of distracted by all the ass you speak of

1166
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: and all the smoke and mirrors that we've discussed.

1167
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: You know, no I've spoken of.

1168
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 2: As No, not you speaking of ass.

1169
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: You talk about how you can.

1170
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 4: He's somebody for promotions, promotional promotional, only for promotional use.

1171
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: But like you know, just visuals have become such an

1172
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: expectation and I wanted people to really be able to

1173
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: immerse themselves and hear the music and feel like they

1174
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: were in my world. And so yeah, that was the intent.

1175
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: And Wayne Brady played my dad on it, which is

1176
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: really cool. I just always by Leslie Junior played my

1177
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: love interest. He played Miles. Tony Baker played my boss.

1178
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: Tony Baker is absolutely I heard him on it. I

1179
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 3: was like this, he is so stupid. He'll be trying

1180
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: to be funny and he.

1181
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: Just his voice voice. He literally has just one of

1182
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: those voices that he could say anything.

1183
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a gift either look funnier or sound funny.

1184
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: And luckily he just signed and he just sounded nice guy.

1185
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: He's a speaking guy. Well he doesn't. He said that

1186
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: he don't like to say that he is because the

1187
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: people have a really high expectation for him. If you

1188
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: ever ate a cookie that wasn't He just don't want

1189
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: that pressure.

1190
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: The god you got, I don't want that pressure.

1191
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: I just want to be able to just eat it

1192
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: with no nobody looking for just the morsel.

1193
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: You the morsels are really good, so you press.

1194
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I just I just did that just now.

1195
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: That was really good.

1196
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: But I was working on much of him he's working on.

1197
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: I watched that food all.

1198
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's dope because when it came on, I

1199
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: was listening to like the narration in this story and

1200
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: you did the job.

1201
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, another vegan, Tabitha Brown plays my favor are vegans?

1202
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: Ken Dixon another vegan.

1203
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, are you I saw and I don't

1204
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: know what he ates? Are you telling them? No, I'm

1205
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: just saying I saw can be a vegan snitch.

1206
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: Bro Listen, First of all, if you're gonna say I

1207
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 3: don't want.

1208
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: To I don't want to see you, why can't you? No,

1209
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: you can go to Noble. You can go to Noble.

1210
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: They got great Bigan options and Noble I can attest

1211
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, are you recruiting vegans? Is that going on?

1212
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: Is that the Is that why I'm not a part

1213
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: of this project?

1214
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: You did not?

1215
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: I did?

1216
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: When you don't?

1217
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: No, I did. I reached out. I wanted you to

1218
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: be in it. You reach out to who I haven't

1219
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: reached out to?

1220
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: Jay, you're not vegan.

1221
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: He's like, look, I'm not going there, but yeah I did.

1222
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: I wanted you to be on it. I did.

1223
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: I won't miss the next one.

1224
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but that's the project.

1225
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: And I'll go vegan while I do my part.

1226
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: You'll be planting based during the product.

1227
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: I've gone vegan.

1228
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: Okay, how long what's the longest you've done shoot?

1229
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: I went vegan. I was doing vegan for maybe like

1230
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: six seven months.

1231
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: And then I just and then I went and then

1232
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 3: I went with vegetarian for a while, then pescatarian, and

1233
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: then and then when I started training, I felt like

1234
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: I felt like pause. I felt on my body was

1235
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: crying out for crying out for meat. Pause again. I

1236
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: just feel like it needed.

1237
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: To your body was crying out for me.

1238
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: No, you can't do that. Once I paused. Okay, once

1239
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: I pause, we got to get out of there. And

1240
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: it's just like, because I'm training twice a day, so

1241
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: I felt like I needed that kind of protein.

1242
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: I got you pause again.

1243
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 3: So so that was kind of like, but I still

1244
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 3: I still dabbling vegan food, raw food, like I had

1245
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: I had a raw chef that I would call and

1246
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: she would make dope raw dishes for me and bring

1247
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 3: them over.

1248
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: Like all of that.

1249
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: Stuff living foods down here before.

1250
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: No where is that.

1251
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: It's downtown. We stopped there on the way here. It's

1252
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: incredible wild living. They figured that ship out. It's amazing.

1253
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: They have raw burgers.

1254
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: But why it's all the way downtown, I don't know.

1255
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: It's amazing, it's worth it. It's worth that's where the

1256
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: vegans go.

1257
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: No, it's a vegan spot right up here Crossroads.

1258
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: And Crossroads is everything and was holly Oh they opened up.

1259
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: They did open up a new local.

1260
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: I think it's Court Kardashian and.

1261
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's Travis Barkers.

1262
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah. They full vegan, like given her supplements, all

1263
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: that stuff, all vegan. So they're heavy.

1264
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: They could have been on the album.

1265
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: They could have you get Travis boy. I know you're

1266
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: gonna get it next time. I know.

1267
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: How.

1268
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: So, how are you feeling about the movement of this

1269
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: both this project?

1270
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: So I'm feeling really great about it, I am. I

1271
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: think just there's a lot of relatability with that self

1272
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: love journey and sort of that vulnerability and talking about

1273
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: therapy and just sort of you know, falling in love

1274
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: with yourself is something that a lot of people can

1275
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: relate to. Even the story I was telling you with

1276
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: my dad and him not being able to verbalize love.

1277
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 2: There have been so many people who've been reaching out

1278
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: and just telling me like yo, like this has inspired

1279
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: me to go into therapy or just inspire me to

1280
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: have these conversations, and you know, cause really it's about

1281
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: accountability too. And like Wayne and I have a duet

1282
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: on the project that's called Maybe It's Me. It's a

1283
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: father daughter duet which I hadn't really heard too much

1284
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 2: of in R and V. And everything's usually romantic love

1285
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: or friendship, but this duet between a father and her

1286
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: daughter just saying, you know, at some point, I can

1287
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: no longer blame you for the way I show up

1288
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: in my relationships because you were doing the best that

1289
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: you could. Now it's up to me to be the

1290
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: change in myself so that I can show up and

1291
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: be in more healthy relationships. And so yeah, people were like,

1292
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a conversation with my father, I'm gonna

1293
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: have a conversation with my mother. And then I released

1294
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: a self love workbook that's sort of a companion to

1295
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: the album to give people a space to sort of

1296
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: write their own stories and to kind of like do

1297
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: their own healing and work. It's got like inner child

1298
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: activities and self love activities and then just journal prompts

1299
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 2: based off of the songs from the project. So I'm

1300
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: really falling in love and embracing this like healing wellness

1301
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: space that's sort of organically come from this project.

1302
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

1303
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been beautiful.

1304
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 4: And it's completarly one percent independent it is.

1305
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the name of the label?

1306
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: Oh, Let there be Arts, you know, because we are creators.

1307
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: Let there be Art, and you know, it's Devin and

1308
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: I's company, and we're actually getting ready to launch an

1309
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: indie collective, like an initiative to help empower other independent artists.

1310
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: So that what we were talking about, right, like creating

1311
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: that blueprint because a lot of people don't know the

1312
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: business of being an independent artist and they get overwhelmed

1313
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: by publishing. There's so much money that is out there

1314
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: that people are not collecting. I'm just saying, there's so

1315
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: many things that we have learned along the way over

1316
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: the course of doing these three projects and just sort

1317
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: of creating a blueprint for people to be able to

1318
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: focus on the creative and not have to worry about

1319
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: all of the nuances and getting your publishing and getting

1320
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: your songs registered. Like there are people who are doing

1321
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: this at a very high level who are independent artists

1322
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: who didn't even know that they could how to upload

1323
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: their music to DSPs. A really good friend of mine

1324
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: pay is giving someone ten or fifteen percent of their

1325
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: publishing because they put the music on the DSP and

1326
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't got to do that. There's better ways,

1327
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: like you know, and so just really giving them the

1328
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: tools and then also creating a wellness initiative. We're starting

1329
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: a residency down in Atlanta called Spaces where it's gonna

1330
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, it's for independent creatives, but it's

1331
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: also going to be a space where we have speakers

1332
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: coming in and teaching financial literacy or mental health. You know,

1333
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna do yoga and stretching in mindfulness because it's

1334
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: holistic at the end of the day, because I learned

1335
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: that when I went through my depression trying to you know,

1336
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: navigate all these things and not really take care of

1337
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: myself first. That's important. So to be successful, it has

1338
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: to be holistic. And so I'm really excited about launching

1339
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 2: that through our company Let There Be R and really

1340
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 2: just giving other independent artists a blueprint because we don't

1341
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: have it and we don't have to go through the

1342
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: major label route. They make it so hard. We were

1343
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: just talking about that too. You know, they make it

1344
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: hard to figure out how to do it yoursel self,

1345
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: and it shouldn't have to be that hard. It's all

1346
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: there be giving you the information.

1347
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1348
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: Did you know that when you were in total package

1349
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: that you would become the total package?

1350
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: Come on, manifestation, I kind of do keep becoming.

1351
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: The name you. I'm telling you like you're you're everything.

1352
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you?

1353
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 9: Ah he go, he go, here, he go, he go?

1354
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 9: What you got, Jade Novah?

1355
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: Somewhere amongst the stars and the quasars and all the

1356
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: cool ship and all the cool.

1357
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 3: Shit, there are some songs that mean a whole lot

1358
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: to you. We'd like to know what these songs.

1359
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: Are, these other worldly songs from your third eye? Do

1360
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: people want to know your top five? Your top five?

1361
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: Come on, wait, top five? Your top five on the singers?

1362
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: What else?

1363
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: Alrathy songs? Oh yeah, we wanta do you got to show?

1364
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: What will do be doude when you let us go?

1365
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1366
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: Your five.

1367
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: That was really something? So what you want?

1368
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: Here? Here we go?

1369
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: Tell your top five R and B singers.

1370
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not good at favorites, but I will tell

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01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: you five people.

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: That's fine that I love. That's fine in R and B.

1373
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: Stevie Wonders my awesome, and I can say that's number

1374
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: one without a doubt. Stevie Wonder is what are we

1375
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 2: talking about? He's Stevie Wonder.

1376
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

1377
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: Whitney Houston.

1378
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: Levels, you know what I mean?

1379
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: Oh, Brandy, okay, Oh this is getting hard because there's

1380
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: a bunch more that I want to name, and now

1381
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how to consolidate.

1382
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: She's going fast?

1383
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: Can I do like to if I said, just go fast? Okay?

1384
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: Tony Bryson.

1385
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. To Mia is so cold. She does not

1386
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: get the respect she is so called.

1387
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,520
Speaker 2: To me is one. She is a huge inspiration.

1388
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: She is a flat footed, stand alone sanger. Don't need

1389
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: nothing else.

1390
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, Tamya is is it?

1391
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

1392
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: I gotta say Beyonce.

1393
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: To could you better?

1394
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 2: Of course? I think that was seven.

1395
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna say that on you. Okay, you're

1396
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: gonna stop there, I mean there, I asked. I did

1397
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: ask the question.

1398
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop there. I feel I feel good. I

1399
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: feel good about your.

1400
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,839
Speaker 1: Top five R and B songs.

1401
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 10: Mm hmm.

1402
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: OVERJOYEDV Gonna build your castle love. This is hard. Oh

1403
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: my god. I should have been prepared for this. This

1404
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: is Can y'all edit this so it could be a

1405
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: lot quicker.

1406
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: We need all this jeez, Oh.

1407
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: My gosh, rmy songs to me, you put a move

1408
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: on my heart.

1409
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

1410
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 2: That's up there for me.

1411
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: That song.

1412
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: Every time it does something.

1413
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: She sang.

1414
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 3: God this way before the two way before pitch correction.

1415
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: Yea to me, it's incredible.

1416
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: So I had to say that she sang it correctly. Yes, ooh, y'all,

1417
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're gonna make me go. Pull that

1418
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: song up and let's do it in the car.

1419
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: You should as soon as I leave.

1420
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 2: Q's Duke Joint was an incredible project. Incredible, and then

1421
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: obviously her first album was incredible as well. Oh R

1422
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: and B songs. Okay, so we got Stevie, we got Tamya.

1423
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna try and pick one from each of

1424
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,480
Speaker 2: the people that I said to just make things easier.

1425
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: So Brandy, I really love Say You Will by Brandy.

1426
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: I know that's like a wild card, but I really

1427
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: love that song. I really love that song. See, Tony,

1428
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 2: there's so many Tony songs. I mean, unbreak my heart?

1429
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: Why not?

1430
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 4: Why not?

1431
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: Why not?

1432
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 2: Who do we have Beyonce? Ooh, I love the lot

1433
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: B Day, that whole project. I'm just can I just

1434
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: do that?

1435
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: You can't do that.

1436
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: You can't beda B Day? Oh, Destiny's Child Desney Fulfield

1437
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: has some crazy projects and some crazy songs on there too.

1438
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm not doing a good job, Tweter, Oh my goodness,

1439
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: I think have I not?

1440
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: All right, let's do your vultrying. This is where you

1441
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 3: build your super R and B artists, all right, So

1442
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna see who you're gonna get the vocal from,

1443
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: the performance style, the styling, the heart of the artist,

1444
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 3: and who's going to write for these artists?

1445
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: You songwriter? Here we go.

1446
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 3: Who are you going to get the vocal from to

1447
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 3: build your super R and B artist?

1448
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: One vocal Whitney Houston. Yeah, because she is. She's Whitney Houston.

1449
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 3: She's the guy is ballads all time. It's it's temple,

1450
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: It's up temples all time. It's it's whatever you want.

1451
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: It's whatever you want. It's whatever you want. Okay, yep,

1452
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna go. When Houston I'm grappling with her or

1453
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: Beyonce for a reason. I think because Beyonce can rap,

1454
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: Beyonce can do anything. Mm hmm. Beyonce Houston, Whitney.

1455
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: Knows, Whitney knows.

1456
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, ship, Yeah, there's something about them as one. I mean, honestly,

1457
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: Whitney Houston can sing whatever too. She gave us Queen

1458
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: of the Night, and she she has rained.

1459
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 3: I feel like if whatever the time would have required

1460
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 3: of Whitney Houston.

1461
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: She could have delivered. So, in all fairness, either one

1462
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 2: of them interchangeably, just depending.

1463
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 3: On what we've just seen, the progression, because Beyonce is

1464
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: the evolution of Whitney Houston.

1465
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that versatility that both of them have, that's incredible.

1466
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, okay, So Winnie knows performance style on stage,

1467
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.

1468
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: Have to go with hmm. I'm have to go with Oh,

1469
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: we might have to go with do ca I was.

1470
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: Have you looked at some of the clips from her

1471
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: Coachella performers. She is she allows the people, and it's

1472
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: clear she allows the band to do what they need

1473
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: to do. She allows the creative director to do what

1474
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 2: they need to do, and she clearly studies and rehearses

1475
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: and puts on a good ass show. She is very talented, fire,

1476
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: she is incredible. I'm gonna have to go performance styling Rihanna.

1477
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: There's nobody cooler. There's nobody cooler. Rihannest building something right now,

1478
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Building something, playing Lego.

1479
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: Selling one hundred million represent the heart, the passion of

1480
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: the artist.

1481
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh, the passion. Hm hmm. I'm gonna have to go

1482
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 2: with jay Nova.

1483
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, come on, because you fighting for this space. Yeah,

1484
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: it's all on your own Yeah, all out my account.

1485
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: She got the passion.

1486
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm not playing out here.

1487
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1488
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: She's been doing this. She was a little baby, been

1489
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: doing this.

1490
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 3: I was signed since I was eight. I was under

1491
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 3: contract under Michael, Michael saying it.

1492
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: So, Michael, that's really good. A man of many gifts.

1493
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: You Yeah, your passion is real, Your passion is real.

1494
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: Who's writing for this artist?

1495
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: Oh Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wonder. I think that

1496
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: might be a cop out though.

1497
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get deep.

1498
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: There, because now I feel like I've created a very

1499
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: modern artist.

1500
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 5: So mayhaps m h Frank Ocean Hmmm.

1501
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm interested.

1502
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm interested as well.

1503
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what that looks like. Yeah, yeah,

1504
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: because Frank Ocean to me has Stevie wonder isms and

1505
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 2: the way he paints a p make sure he's yeah.

1506
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: Freak my curiosity.

1507
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very interesting artist, curate.

1508
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 3: I mean, the artist is not interesting. The artist is

1509
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 3: a monster. But choosing Frank to write is interesting. I

1510
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 3: want to hear that.

1511
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: I want to hear it. I want to hear it intrigued.

1512
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: Because it's going to have it's going to have it's

1513
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 3: going to have a different type of depth to it.

1514
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 3: It's not like a it's not a commercial thing. It's

1515
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 3: truly art. It's like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah.

1516
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: I like that.

1517
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting, Like you like.

1518
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: That's how you build a cult, a cult following with

1519
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: that type of material.

1520
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, yeah, oh yeah, we've come to that time.

1521
01:17:51,320 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 10: What's happening now, cul shit, I ain't.

1522
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: Saying no hey, I ain't saying no name. I ain't

1523
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: saying no names. I ain't saying no name. Was what

1524
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: you did? Don't say she? And I'm saying no name? Yeah?

1525
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: What does it all mean?

1526
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 4: So we've come to that point very special segment of

1527
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 4: the show, Will you tell us the story funny or

1528
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 4: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The only rule

1529
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 4: to the game. You can't say no names. Come on,

1530
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 4: come on, give us some good Come on, come on

1531
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 4: straight from pleav And, Ohio by way of Atlanta, Georgia.

1532
01:18:49,439 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: Period. What oh, oh god, funny or fucked up? I

1533
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: mean I kind of already said one of them, well too, guys, okay,

1534
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up, really fucked up. Actually a very

1535
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: dope producer who wanted to work. Yeah, kind of back

1536
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 2: to what you were speaking on earlier. Yeah, oh, I

1537
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: just really wanted to work. And I was really excited

1538
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: because this producer is very dope and very relevant. And

1539
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: he sent me a DM and I'm like, great, let's work.

1540
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: Here's my husband's information. He's my partner. We're gonna like

1541
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 2: collaborate or whatever.

1542
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 8: And then.

1543
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 4: This had to do nothing with no husbands.

1544
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: He went ghost and I was really disappointed. I was

1545
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: really disappointed. But yeah, and it wasn't me trying to

1546
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: like even put it just this is the way I work,

1547
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 2: Like he's my business partner, so like that, it just

1548
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: was what it was. And yeah, I never heard from

1549
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: him again.

1550
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 1: It's probably for the best.

1551
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely for the best.

1552
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 11: I mean, he wanted to work, but he didn't want

1553
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 11: to work.

1554
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: So I'm with you on some of your your your

1555
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: women friends who say that that's an interesting thing to navigate,

1556
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 2: and I've the conversations that I have had are wild,

1557
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 2: and so I think that I lost my ability to

1558
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: have that whatever that thing is to be a single

1559
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: woman in this industry because I've heard that it don't

1560
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 2: even matter. There's a lot of opportunities that I feel

1561
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,440
Speaker 2: like are not given because people's intentions.

1562
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: Are because you're not allowing a certain access exactly.

1563
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: So, but like you said, it's for the better because

1564
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: then you're reading out the bullshit.

1565
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: It well, and it's for you.

1566
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 3: Like your your path and how you want to go

1567
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 3: about this thing is just set a certain way and

1568
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 3: everything that go alongs with even just how you create

1569
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: your music, it just doesn't it doesn't warrant that like

1570
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: yours is just different. So I commend you on your path,

1571
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 3: commend you however you go about getting your business done.

1572
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: You know, God bless you. I have no judgment at all,

1573
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 3: but I commend you on how you've gone about gone

1574
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 3: about your business is very admirable, very respectable and as

1575
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 3: Jay says, should be studied, it should.

1576
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: Be I want to hear these stories. Y'all do the

1577
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: song again, and then y'all tell me.

1578
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 3: You're in the hot seat, so we're going to keep

1579
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 3: it on you. Jay, You're super dope. We first of

1580
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 3: all appreciate you coming because we know you know your

1581
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 3: time is real money. Your time is your money. It

1582
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 3: ain't nobody else there is your money, and we appreciate

1583
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 3: you being here. We are we are one hundred percent

1584
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 3: and support you. That is why you are here, so

1585
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: we can celebrate you and let people know who and

1586
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:16,839
Speaker 3: what you are. And this is always available to you always.

1587
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1588
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: And I'm so proud and inspired at what you both

1589
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: have built here, like it's so necessary, and I love

1590
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: that y'all highlight independent artists as well, artists from all

1591
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 2: walks of life, like this is some really dope. I mean,

1592
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: you know this is dope ship that you've built. Now

1593
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: you've got a tour popping from it like you're doing.

1594
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this. You're not gonna.

1595
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 2: Chain about it, all your plaque about it.

1596
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do. That's incredible about you.

1597
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: But I'm saying like it's I'm grateful, like the give

1598
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: back because y'all are legends and it's and it's it's

1599
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: crazy awesome. I'm honored.

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