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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome issue's recipient of the Pat Tillman Award for Service.

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Speaker 1: The training staff are the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: All right. That was the scene at last night's sb

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Speaker 3: Awards as DeMar Hamlin introduced the Bill's athletic training staff,

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Speaker 3: which obviously was critical in saving his life on the

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Speaker 3: field January two against the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: And he also did a three minute piece that was

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Speaker 3: shown to the people in attendance as he described the

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Speaker 3: relationship that has grown from that experience. You know, it

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Speaker 3: was kind of it was I thought it was well

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Speaker 3: put together. You know, he kind of explained how you

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Speaker 3: have over one hundred people on a sideline on a

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Speaker 3: on a daily basis, and you know everybody, but you

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Speaker 3: don't really know them, and then this thing happens and

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Speaker 3: he's gone on to know these people on a pretty

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Speaker 3: intimate level, certainly more than the average player athletic trainer relationship.

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Speaker 3: There are other examples of it, you know, when a

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Speaker 3: guy goes through a major knee injury, like I'll bet

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Speaker 3: you Tredavius White knows three or four of those people intimately, well,

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Speaker 3: just by virtue of the fact that he's spending hours

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Speaker 3: every day with them through his rehab regiment. You know,

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Speaker 3: you talk about other things besides what's going on today

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Speaker 3: at work, right, And as you could see from some

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Speaker 1: And it's a really well done piece. Yeah, and Damar

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Speaker 1: Narrow narrated it. Shot by Buffalo guys here in our

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Speaker 1: the subsequent months that followed, all that stuff was shot.

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Speaker 1: Really nice piece and it you know, it continues to

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Speaker 1: resonate with a lot of people. You can't watch that

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Speaker 1: video without getting choked up. And it is interesting because

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Speaker 1: and they see all these people down on the field,

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Speaker 1: And then when something happens like what happened to Demarrow,

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Speaker 1: and and moments like that make us all thankful that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like he said, you know, these guys

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Speaker 3: train and prepare for these kinds of things. When those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this too. They and they did. The

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Speaker 1: league is you know, they're better I think now than

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Speaker 1: they've ever been. Certainly the Kevin Everett incident from two

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Speaker 1: has always I remember having the training staff from the

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Speaker 3: Before the they did their run through drill.

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Speaker 1: They did the run through of something like that happening

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Speaker 3: And I think the other part of this that shouldn't

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Speaker 3: I mean DeMar even said I couldn't hold it together.

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Speaker 3: For those that aren't aware of you know, some of

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Speaker 3: the positives that have come out of this. We know

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Speaker 3: all the money that got donated to DeMar's Chasing M's Foundation,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Bills training staff received the award last

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Speaker 1: night for the Pat Tillman Award for Service, and it's

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Speaker 1: cool to see. It's cool to see that it still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was really neat to see that. And

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Speaker 3: And you can only imagine what would be running through

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like he can't do that. It's not

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Speaker 3: And even in the training camp setting, it's only thud,

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Speaker 1: The preseason is gonna come up on us in a minute,

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Speaker 3: There are concerns about the job security of New England

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Speaker 3: Patriots head coach Bill Belichick among his friends. This according

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Speaker 3: to Ben Viln of The Boston Globe, who's been on

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Speaker 3: this show. These worries come as Patriots owner Robert Kraft

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Speaker 3: become a five year drought. The Patriots have not won

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Speaker 3: a playoff game in five years. Steve I was surprised

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Speaker 1: Know, well, they're just there. They've been to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a perfect game by Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: And the other part of this, Steve, is, you know,

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Speaker 3: we saw this happen recently. Bob Kraft paid Girard Mayo,

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Speaker 1: I knowing what I know about Bob Kraft, he will

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Speaker 1: a hard time seeing Robert Kraft saying Bill, you're out.

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Speaker 1: I think it will be and now he may do that,

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Speaker 1: but it will be. It won't look like a firing.

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Speaker 1: It'll look like Bill Belichick stepping away sunset. Yes, he'll

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Speaker 1: I think that's an organization that will allow Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: Whether that means not stepping away and forcing them to

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Speaker 1: fire him if they want to, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that would happen. How do you You can't? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. How are you going to fire? That?

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Speaker 1: A guy like Bill Belichick should be able to call

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Speaker 3: everybody's favorite to make the roster. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 3: we are asking you today, which under the radar player

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Speaker 3: on Buffalo's roster do you want to break out during

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Speaker 3: this year's training camp. You've got a favorite? Let us

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Speaker 3: know at eight h three zero, five point fifty one

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Speaker 3: eighty eight eight five fifty two five point fifty could

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Speaker 3: be a guy that was a rookie last year, didn't

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Speaker 3: really do much, and now you're hoping this year in

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Speaker 3: training camp he breaks out and lights the world on fire.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a complete unknown guy that you feel maybe

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Speaker 3: has something special and you want to see that in

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Speaker 3: training camp where all of a sudden the guy sert

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Speaker 3: like Christian Benford last year, for example, six round pick

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Speaker 3: FCS football in college and the guy goes from third

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Speaker 3: string two week one starter in a span of a month.

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Speaker 3: Who is that guy for you this year on the

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Speaker 3: Bills roster?

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. That was one of the most

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Speaker 1: amazing stories. Oh Benford, Benford, it was a precipitous rise,

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Speaker 1: and I give you credit. You're the one who noticed

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Speaker 1: it to me. Pointed out to me first, Hey, you

452
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Speaker 1: see this guy Benford. I go, well, you know, six

453
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Speaker 1: second team, what about he's running second team? And even

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Speaker 1: then I was like, well, you know, they're just they

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Speaker 1: got to make it fair. They're gonna you know, they

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Speaker 1: they promise everybody they get a chance, so they're they're

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Speaker 1: giving him his run.

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Speaker 3: Was practicing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so everybody was notched up one notch in

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Speaker 1: the hierarchy of corners. I was like, okay, yeah. Then

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Speaker 1: it's like then the next day it was like he

462
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Speaker 1: was like going like getting mixed in, getting mixed in

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Speaker 1: for the for the ones. And then I was like,

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Speaker 1: I was I was like, I shut up and looked,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just got quiet, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's right. And then and enough week one,

467
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Speaker 1: the guy is.

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Speaker 3: Lining up I guess the defending Super Bowl champions. That's

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Speaker 3: an unbelievable That wasn't a precipitous rise. That was a

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Speaker 3: meteoric rise.

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Speaker 1: That was yes, let's just hope it wasn't a comment like,

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Speaker 1: well right, but no supernovas here. He was. It was amazing,

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Speaker 1: And so that's kind of what we're looking. That's where

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Speaker 1: this question is comes from today. I mean, we thought

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Speaker 1: back and you know we always I mean, good grief,

476
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Speaker 1: we do this more than anybody because the fans go

477
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Speaker 1: out there and they most get people show up for

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Speaker 1: one day and they go home. You know, they just

479
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Speaker 1: want to see the team and do it. We're there

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Speaker 1: every day, right and all the people on the staff

481
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Speaker 1: are there every day, all the trainers, the families, the friends,

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Speaker 1: we got a there's maybe one hundred and fifty people

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Speaker 1: that are there every day and we all stand around

484
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Speaker 1: and we're all casual because it's training camp. So we're

485
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Speaker 1: all talking like we and we have the opportunity because

486
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Speaker 1: we don't always get to do that. So everybody's like this,

487
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Speaker 1: got that guy. They're all whispering, guys, my god, he's

488
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Speaker 1: gonna make It's like we're at the horse track.

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Speaker 3: Exactly that number six horses. That's exactly a chance put

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Speaker 3: five downs.

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Speaker 1: We are picking horses, and it is so and I

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Speaker 1: gotta say that for me, in this day and age,

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Speaker 1: that's the funnest part about it. I'm picking a guy

494
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Speaker 1: and nobody knows about that. You do, and so that's

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Speaker 1: what he comes through for you. And yeah, he came

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Speaker 1: through it with me. I was got down a strate

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Speaker 1: taking a bag it.

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Speaker 5: Come on, Benford, come on, bead Ford, Come on, bed Ford,

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Speaker 5: come on, he started.

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Speaker 3: That's the way it is. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like it. We're sitting there and training camp

502
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Speaker 1: going on like we like that, Benford, Corse and like that, Benford.

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Speaker 1: Come on as you say horses, as.

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Speaker 3: You say off and on this show, we are goners.

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Speaker 1: We are goners total, we are, we are here from

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Speaker 1: we are. We are rooting them down the finish.

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Speaker 3: We deserve to come home. He's gonna make it. We

508
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Speaker 3: deserve to come home and have our wives look at

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Speaker 3: us cross eyed.

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Speaker 1: Like what is oh they give you that that totally

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Speaker 1: disgusted load is wrong with Like they just shake their head.

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Speaker 1: And so you let us though.

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Speaker 3: Which under the radar player do you want to see

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Speaker 3: breakout at this year's Bill's training camp. Eight oh three

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Speaker 3: oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five point

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Speaker 3: fifty two five fifty the number to get on board,

517
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Speaker 3: or you can hit us up on the tweet sheet

518
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Speaker 3: at One Bill's Live. There's there's a lot of choices.

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Speaker 3: If you just go on Buffalo bills dot com and

520
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Speaker 3: scroll down the roster, you're like, oh, right, I'd like

521
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Speaker 3: to see that guy, yeah, show up at this camp

522
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Speaker 3: and make a name for himself. It's easy to root

523
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Speaker 3: for and basically look at the Bills roster like you're

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Speaker 3: racing form.

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Speaker 1: He's exactly right. Like when it's all said and it's like,

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Speaker 1: I should have known, right, that's the racing form mentality.

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Speaker 1: You go back and look at the racing you know,

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Speaker 1: I should have figured that out that that horse was

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Speaker 1: gonna win. Yeah, that's the quintessential race horsing.

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Speaker 3: The racing form reminded me and my grandfather. Now, all right,

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Speaker 3: here we go. We got to take a break. But

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Speaker 3: when we come back, it is all phone calls, all

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Speaker 3: the time for the rest of the show. So if

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Speaker 3: you got an under the radar player in mind, you

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Speaker 3: want to see breakout of Training Camp, let us know

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Speaker 3: ato three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 3: fifty two five fifty we're back with your phone calls

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Speaker 3: next year. On One Bill's Live, presented by co Lot

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Speaker 3: of Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 3: to One Bill's Live, Going under the Radar for training camp. Here,

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Speaker 3: give us your under the radar player that you want

542
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Speaker 3: to see break out at Bill's training camp at Saint

543
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Speaker 3: John Fisher later this month. We're gonna go to the

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Speaker 3: phones where we do have an open line for you

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Speaker 3: at ATO three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

546
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Speaker 3: five fifty two, five fifty numbers to get on board

547
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Speaker 3: where you can hit us up on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 3: at one Bills Live. We go now to lead us

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Speaker 3: off today. The leadoff man is Josh in Rochester. What

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Speaker 3: do you got for us? Josh are on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 6: Hey, how are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 6: I honestly think the one pick that I would say

554
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Speaker 6: that is the X factor could be an X factor,

555
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Speaker 6: is Justin Shorter, just based on the fact that that's

556
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Speaker 6: a style of a player that we have not had

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Speaker 6: on the Bills roster sometime. And I think if we

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Speaker 6: can get him on board and give him that rise,

559
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Speaker 6: as you guys said Benford, you know, or anybody like

560
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Speaker 6: that has had in the past, if we can get

561
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Speaker 6: Justin Shorter on board, I think that would be something

562
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Speaker 6: great for the Bills going forward.

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Speaker 3: And what kind of receiver do you think he is

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Speaker 3: that the Bills haven't had, just out of curiosity.

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Speaker 4: Just that big body, just that big body. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've had, you know, the Stefan Diggs, We've had the

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Speaker 4: Jamison Crowders, We've had the Isaiah McKennis. We haven't had

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Speaker 4: a Justin Shorter in a long time. That body style.

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Speaker 1: I get that, And you know what, Josh, I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we've had a really good one

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Speaker 1: since Josh has been here. A big body guy. They

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Speaker 1: had who's a big dude. They had Shelvin benj but

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Speaker 1: he was you know, he wasn't shorter. Uh. And we

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Speaker 1: said it earlier in the off season. When these guys

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Speaker 1: starts showing up, it's not just Shorter, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of these guys are bigger than the guys that they've

577
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Speaker 1: had before. You know, they've got eight men, Marcella Passmore,

578
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Speaker 1: Tyrell Shavers, Sean Johnson, all these guys are over six foot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're bigger dudes. Shorter is just another one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: So I think you may be onto something, not just

581
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Speaker 1: because it's shorter, but because of that idea that they

582
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Speaker 1: haven't had a big physical handful of a guy at

583
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Speaker 1: wide receiver since Josh has been here. They've got they

584
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Speaker 1: have some really good dudes, no question. I mean, they've

585
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Speaker 1: been prolific offensively, but that's a body type and a

586
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Speaker 1: kind of style of play that they have not had,

587
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Speaker 1: at least at a high level. Right, So maybe you're right, Josh,

588
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: and I get your I get logic there.

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Speaker 3: And Shorter is a guy that you know went into

590
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 3: college with a pretty high degree of pedigree. I mean,

591
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Speaker 3: he was the number one receiver recruit in the nation

592
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Speaker 3: in his graduation year and had offers from just about everywhere.

593
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Speaker 3: Went to Penn State, though, and could not climb the

594
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Speaker 3: depth chart. He was behind people like Johan Dodson and

595
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Speaker 3: kJ Hamler, both of whom now playing in the NFL.

596
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Speaker 3: Transferred to Florida had a little more success there because

597
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: he got on the field. But I don't know that

598
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Speaker 3: he ever lived up to the number one receiver recruit

599
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Speaker 3: in the country for his graduating class. And I got

600
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Speaker 3: to believe that that has put a chip on his shoulder,

601
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Speaker 3: just from listening to him on his first conference call

602
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Speaker 3: with the Western New York media after he got drafted.

603
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Speaker 3: He basically said, just give me my chance. I'm going

604
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Speaker 3: to set this league on fire. And I was like, oh,

605
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Speaker 3: that's that's a pretty confident talk there, especially for a

606
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Speaker 3: fifth round trap choice. So we'll see, we'll see what

607
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: he brings to the table in training camp. But yeah,

608
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Speaker 3: that would be an exciting development because that would just

609
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Speaker 3: make the receiving corps have an element that I don't

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Speaker 3: know if anybody was banking on just yet. I think

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Speaker 3: it's a wait and see with.

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Speaker 1: Him right right. But I like to I like to

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Speaker 1: take and oh no, I I get it. Uh and

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Speaker 1: I we we had talked about this earlier in the

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Speaker 1: off season, Like we said, when we started, when they

616
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Speaker 1: started having OTAs and the rookie mini camps and you

617
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Speaker 1: know all the stuff, you know, the where they can't

618
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Speaker 1: play football, guys just stand around. I was like, dude,

619
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Speaker 1: these guys are all big, you know, I was. I

620
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Speaker 1: was surprised by that.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back to the phones. We go to Robert

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Speaker 3: in Alden. Next, what do you got for us? Robert?

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Speaker 7: I think an under the radar player could be Kahil Shakir.

624
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Speaker 7: He was overshadowed by Isaiah McKenzie. So I think he

625
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Speaker 7: could really burst in training camp, which is like aggressive

626
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Speaker 7: play style and just jumping up to the ball and stuff.

627
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I like that. He certainly finished the season

628
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Speaker 3: strong when he got a little more time on the field.

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Speaker 3: Josh demonstrated in the playoff game against the Dolphins that

630
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Speaker 3: he has he trusts him implicitly, you know, going to

631
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Speaker 3: him on big down and distant situations. And Khalil came

632
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Speaker 3: through and I thought his game was just starting to

633
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Speaker 3: reach critical mass, and then the season ended, so kind

634
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he was trending. I

635
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Speaker 3: want to when we if we get a chance to

636
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Speaker 3: talk to him on our show, you know, during the

637
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Speaker 3: course of training camp. That's one question I want to

638
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Speaker 3: ask him. Did you feel like things were finally falling

639
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Speaker 3: into place and then the season ended. You're like, ah,

640
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Speaker 3: I was just getting a handle on this thing, you.

641
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Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Yeah, And I would like to

642
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Speaker 1: know too, and well, we never will. I'd like to

643
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Speaker 1: ask Sean McDermott, and you know, Chad Hall, who was

644
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Speaker 1: here last year as a wide receiver coach, what you know,

645
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Speaker 1: how'd that work? You know, because when he got on

646
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Speaker 1: the field, it seemed like he wastive, caught the ball

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Speaker 1: extremely well, even in tight windows, but it seemed to

648
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Speaker 1: be crescendoing at the end of the year. Now, was

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Speaker 1: that due to the opportunity? Obviously was because of the

650
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Speaker 1: opportunities he was given? But why did those come? Was

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Speaker 1: somebody else like stumbling? Was miss Mackenzie not the guy

652
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Speaker 1: they thought he was going to be? Cole Beasley was

653
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Speaker 1: you know, was washed up? You know what? What was

654
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Speaker 1: the deal with his added opportunity because certainly when he

655
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Speaker 1: got in there, Josh didn't hesitate to throwing the ball.

656
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Speaker 1: I'd like to know what was he what they were

657
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Speaker 1: they seeing something during the week? Was it all about him?

658
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Speaker 1: Or was it about other guys?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that's that's kind of what

661
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Speaker 1: I'd like to know. And I don't know if that

662
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Speaker 1: we'll ever be able to find that out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that we will. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that we'll get a definitive answer on that. But let's

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Speaker 3: go back to the phones. Kevin and Lakawana is waiting.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Kevin?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, Yeah, klul Secure was definitely my pick as well.

668
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Speaker 8: And I just want to touch back on that because

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Speaker 8: you know, it seemed like everything was falling into place

670
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Speaker 8: with him in the latter half of last season every

671
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Speaker 8: time he was out there, you know, slightly bigger than

672
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Speaker 8: your average slot receiver, very good route runner, and very

673
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Speaker 8: hard work ethic.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 8: But the concern there is, you know, we made some

676
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Speaker 8: offseason pickups like Trent Sherfield Hardy, right, So there's some

677
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Speaker 8: concerns there. I think if we expose him to a

678
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Speaker 8: higher volume of play, he could really have a chance

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Speaker 8: to shine. But you know, we've added a lot of

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Speaker 8: off season depth, so I guess that's an additional concern.

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Speaker 1: Well, competition is where you should want to see it now.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're not just going to go in and say, yeah,

683
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Speaker 1: Shakir's our guy. No matter what, you bring in, guys

684
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Speaker 1: to compete for the job. So if somebody else outperforms him,

685
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Speaker 1: that's kind of where you want to be. Because as

686
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Speaker 1: good as you thought or hoped he was going to be,

687
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Speaker 1: this guy's whoever that is going to be is better.

688
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Speaker 1: That's why it's got to be. But yeah, I like

689
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Speaker 1: we said he was the most I think he was

690
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Speaker 1: the most pleasant surprise in a bitter end to the season,

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Speaker 1: if I might put it that he's one of the

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Speaker 1: most pleasant surprises and the bitter end of the season.

693
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Speaker 1: You could make a case for other guys like Nahim

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Speaker 1: Heinz and the way he was returning kicks and that

695
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Speaker 1: kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Even kyer Elan was was playing better. Right, So there

698
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Speaker 1: was some guys at the end of the season that

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Speaker 1: you know, gave you, gave you a little bit of

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Speaker 1: excitement for their future. And Shakier's one of them for sure.

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Speaker 1: And because he's offense on the offense, and because you know,

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Speaker 1: when they give you the ball in an NFL games,

703
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Speaker 1: it means something. I think we all kind of would

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Speaker 1: like to see more of it. I don't know that,

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Speaker 1: And to your point, I don't know that's gonna happen

706
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Speaker 1: because there are other guys who are going to have

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Speaker 1: their share as well, most most notably the first round

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Speaker 1: draft pick this year. Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to watch. There is breaking NFL

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Speaker 3: news courtesy of NFL Networks Ian Rappaport, who is reporting

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Speaker 3: that the Jets and All Pro defensive tackle Quinn Williams

712
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Speaker 3: have agreed to terms on a four year, ninety six

713
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Speaker 3: million dollar deal, largest second contract ever for a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Williams will get sixty six million in guarantees as part

715
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Speaker 3: of the deal, So the Year of the defensive tackle continues.

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Speaker 3: Deron Payne, Jeffrey Simmons, Dexter Lawrence, I mean at Oliver

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Speaker 3: and now Quinn Williams, I mean just and we're still

718
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Speaker 3: waiting on Chris Jones in Kansas City, who's going to

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Speaker 3: get a big deal. So Quinn Williams four years, ninety

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Speaker 3: six million dollars, yauser, that is a that is some

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Speaker 3: big money. So that is one thing that Jets no

722
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Speaker 3: longer have to worry about being an issue with their

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Speaker 3: media or on hard knocks.

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Speaker 1: That's it's a big number. I mean, there's just no

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Speaker 1: two ways about it. And you knew it was going

726
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Speaker 1: to happen. The guy's a dominant force. And we've seen

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Speaker 1: a trend now as well. Maybe we're getting to a

728
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Speaker 1: point where it's it's so obvious and analytics are so real.

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Speaker 1: They know. That's what we've been saying. You gotta draft big, strong,

730
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Speaker 1: talented guys because athletes are everywhere regular normal sized athletes.

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Speaker 1: The guys six one, sixty two and one hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety two hundred pounds or whatever that are everywhere. Every

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Speaker 1: college campus has got a bunch of those guys. But

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Speaker 1: nobody is six four three point thirty five and can

735
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Speaker 1: run and do somersaults and jump up and down and

736
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Speaker 1: you know, outmaneuver people. Those guys are rare. That's why

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Speaker 1: they're drafted high, and that's why you got to keep

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Speaker 1: them when you get them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty crazy to think that. At the beginning

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Speaker 3: of this offseason, Deron Pain of Washington signs a four year,

741
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Speaker 3: ninety million dollar deal. Here we are just two months

742
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Speaker 3: later in Quinn Williams getting six million more dollars in

743
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Speaker 3: total value of the contract. Like, it's crazy how the

744
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Speaker 3: increase is going just a few short months. But there

745
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Speaker 3: it is second largest second contract ever for a defensive tackle.

746
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Speaker 3: And while the defensive tackle values continue to go up

747
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Speaker 3: and up and up and up, the running back values

748
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Speaker 3: keep coming down, down, down, down, down. And those are

749
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Speaker 3: two positions that are interconnected because defensive tackles that are

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Speaker 3: worth their salt can stop the run and they're considered

751
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Speaker 3: a valuable commodity. Meanwhile, the guy running the ball is not,

752
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Speaker 3: because we're in a passing league.

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Speaker 1: Now it's I don't know, Maybe I'm projecting my own

754
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: feelings about this onto the situation, but it's a bigger

755
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: drop off in production and ripple effect of your whole defense.

756
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Speaker 1: When you go from a top flight defensive tackle to

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Speaker 1: a billy bag of donuts defensive tackle, it's a huge

758
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Speaker 1: It's a much bigger drop off than when you go

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Speaker 1: from a Saquon Barkley elite running back down to a

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Speaker 1: run of the mill, joey bag of donuts running back.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a much smaller drop okay, because they're

762
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Speaker 1: all fast.

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Speaker 3: They're big, strong, fast guys are rarer than well five

764
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Speaker 3: pound running back.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's right. There's just a bigger drop

766
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Speaker 1: off with those big, huge guys.

767
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Speaker 3: The pool isn't as deep.

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Speaker 1: The genetic pool is the dictator of how that's gonna run.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm you know, you got to pay the

770
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Speaker 1: more valuable and rare commodity. You got to pay for that,

771
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Speaker 1: and that's what those guys are. Because I'll say this too,

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Speaker 1: you think of most people can't get their mind around

773
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: what this is like I've I've done it in a

774
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Speaker 1: different position in the past life. But you really got

775
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: to get your mind around having a job where it's

776
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: your job to phis encounter another human being hard and

777
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: push them or tackle them to the ground against their will.

778
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Speaker 1: And most people never know what that's like when you're

779
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: doing it for keeps and you're getting paid to do it,

780
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Speaker 1: when it's your living. There's a lot of a lot

781
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Speaker 1: of mental challenges there to get around that you get,

782
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Speaker 1: you know, if you don't, you know, because particularly if

783
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: you go in there and you don't feel right, you

784
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: got to sore shoulder, sore legs, sore need whatever, and

785
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: you got to kind of forget about it for a minute,

786
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Speaker 1: and you've got to disengage your sense of self preservation.

787
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Speaker 1: I was really good at that in my job. You

788
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Speaker 1: got to kind of like throw your self preservation out

789
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Speaker 1: the window and just go. And that's it's rare to

790
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: have a big dude who can who will do that

791
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Speaker 1: for his job play it. I did it like four

792
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Speaker 1: or five times a game. I'd be actually on the

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Speaker 1: play right where you do that. He there were like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty snaps, like seventy five snap. That's

795
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Speaker 1: a game of defense. It's it's a big ass that's

796
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Speaker 1: why these guys are That's that's two why you get

797
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: guys like Dot Marcel Darius. You give them a contract

798
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Speaker 1: like that and it's like, man, I'm glad I don't

799
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Speaker 1: have to work that hard anymore because it's hard. It

800
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Speaker 1: is a hard ask. So that's why some teams are

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Speaker 1: very hesitant to give those guys a big check because

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, I'm just man, I got

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Speaker 1: the money.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking it out of here.

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Speaker 1: I don't, man, I'm not gonna fight this guy. It's

806
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: it is a That is the crux of the NFL

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00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: right there, And that's why it's different than other sports,

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00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: some other sports, because it.

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Speaker 3: Takes a different physical and mental constitution every week to

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Speaker 3: play that game and play it well. We have to

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Speaker 3: take a break here, but when we come back, more

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Speaker 3: off here is Debbie in Lockport. What do you got first? Debbie?

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Speaker 9: Hey, Chris and Steve, first time caller. Can't believe I

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Speaker 9: got through. Gonna pick sure kir is a breakout for

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Speaker 9: the training camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I hope that he has a good season. If they

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Speaker 9: use him more than they have been, he should have

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Speaker 9: a good season. Also, we love Steve and he should

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Speaker 9: be in the Hall of Fame already, but we're hoping

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Speaker 9: that a senior that he gets put in the Hall

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Speaker 9: of Fame hopefully gets it right this time. So that's

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Speaker 9: that's all about. Go Steve. We love you and we

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Speaker 9: watch the show every day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's nice. I appreciate the sentiment. I'm and

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Speaker 1: I know it Brownie, and I I tell Brownie, we

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it on the show, but

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate. I've gotten a ton of stuff obviously

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Speaker 1: on on Twitter and stuff on my social and social

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Speaker 1: media account that you know, all the well wish has

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Speaker 1: been great and it is a it's an honor to

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Speaker 1: be on that in that conversation. But let's just we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna wait and see, all right, And Shakir seems

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Speaker 1: to be the flavor of the day. And I think too,

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Speaker 1: what we saw at the end of last year, I

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Speaker 1: they had Steph Diggs. Steph Diggs is a weapon, and

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Speaker 1: they know about him. They're gonna defend him. Nobody knew

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Speaker 1: about Shaquille Shakir last year. They didn't know Khalil was

861
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Speaker 1: gonna come in and be able to play the way

862
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: he did. So he's the guy they left open and

863
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: that's who Josh found, much like he found Isaiah McKenzie

864
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: in the New England game two years ago, and it's

865
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, twelve targets, eleven receptions. He beat him, crushed him.

866
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: They kept giving it to him and Josh kept taking it.

867
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of what you saw

868
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati game. Josh kept taking what was there.

869
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: Miami game as well. The last game of the playoff

870
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: was wild the wild card game, he kept taking it.

871
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: That's something I think two things about it. One, Josh

872
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: is going to the guy that the defense is given

873
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: a huge statement about the quality of your quarterback when

874
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't care who's getting it. He's going to the

875
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: guy he's supposed to go to because the coverage dictates

876
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: it and he's on it. That's a plus. The second

877
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: thing is we need some more help for Steph Diggs,

878
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: and they didn't have it enough of it last year.

879
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: They will't see what they have this year because they've

880
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: done a lot to refurbish that game.

881
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because if you add it all up

882
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: last year, people are like, why is the offense such

883
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: a heavy lift last year? Well, there's a number of

884
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: reasons why. But first of all, you've got Gabe Davis

885
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: having a down year fifty two percent catch rate, even

886
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: he would tell you that's below his standard. So now

887
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 3: the guy that you were expecting to have to step

888
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: into the number two role and perform capably after a

889
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: strong postseason doesn't come through for you there the way

890
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: you would anticipate it. The slot receiver role is compromised

891
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: by the season ending injury to Jamison Crowder in Week four,

892
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: and then Isaiah McKenzie and asked to step in and

893
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: fill that role full time. Isn't consistent enough to fill

894
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: that role for you. And then you take it a

895
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: step further and Dawson Kno's numbers, while still respectable, kind

896
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: of came back to the mean a little bit after

897
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: a nine touchdown season last year. So you roll all

898
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: that together and it's like, oh, wow, Josh really didn't

899
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: have anybody else to count on besides Steph in the

900
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: passing game when you think about it, at least on

901
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: a regular basis. And so now I think that is

902
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: part of the reason you saw the investment in the

903
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: off season with Deontay Hardy, with Trent Sherfield and Dalton

904
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: Kinka and Dalton Kincaid with your first round pick and

905
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: Justin Shorter as you know, development type depth, and like

906
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: we said in the last segment, when one of the

907
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: callers you know, picked Justin Shorter as his guy, they

908
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: made a concerted effort. It seems to us to get

909
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: bigger at that position.

910
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Yes, size right, yeah, they so, they they put It's

911
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: obvious they are putting a lot of thought into the

912
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: mindset of getting Josh more help outside. Plus that arms

913
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: race we spoke about at the end of last season.

914
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: It just seems like you got to keep up with Cincinnati.

915
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: They got those three guys in Cincinnati that can really go.

916
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are going to continue to stack it with

917
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: Kelsey and company. They got all these guys. The Bills

918
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: are going to keep up with them now. They the

919
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Bills did statistically last year, but at the end of

920
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: the season they ran out of gas for a multitude

921
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: of reasons. And I think they said, you know, listen,

922
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: we're keeping up and we're not gonna We're not gonna

923
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: sit back and and away they go. I'm totally with it.

924
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: We get it. We're getting a lot of Shakir calls today,

925
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: and you know, we're chewing it up pretty good. I

926
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, the more you think about it, the more

927
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: you start splitting hairs. But I don't think it is

928
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: any question that the Bills felt like at the end

929
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: of the last season and they continue to think that

930
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: they are in an arms race. They got to score

931
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: points against everybody.

932
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: And for those of you, like Debbie who are pulling

933
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: for Steve to be the Seniors Committee nominee for the

934
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame, here are the dates you

935
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 3: need to remember. The Seniors Committee will reduce the current

936
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: pool of thirty one semi finalist players former players down

937
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: to twelve candidates on July twenty seventh, and then that

938
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: list will be whittled down to a maximum of three

939
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: on August twenty second, So in a couple of months

940
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: we'll kind of know where everything stands with regard to

941
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: the Seniors Committee nominees. We have to take a break here,

942
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: but our number two is more your phone calls, which

943
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: under the radar player, do you want to see breakout

944
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: during Bill's training camp this summer eight h three zero

945
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: five to fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

946
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: fifty more of your phone calls and tweets at One

947
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 3: Bill's Live. We'll be back in just a couple of states.

948
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

949
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: Our number two. Here we are ready to roll and

950
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: uh talking about under the radar players that have a

951
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: chance to break out at Bill's training camp this summer.

952
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: Maybe a name that not many people are thinking of,

953
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: but you've been given some thought to you know what,

954
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: I think this guy is ready to emerge. You let

955
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: us know who that player is. Is eight oh three

956
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

957
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: five fifty the number to get on board or hit

958
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: us up on the tweets sheet. One Bills Live. We

959
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 3: go right back to the phones and to Cassidy in Batavia.

960
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: What do you got for his? Cassidy?

961
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: Hey, Chris s Steve. This might not be a player

962
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: that a lot of people will say just because there

963
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 2: was going to happen last year, But I'm gonna say,

964
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: Damar Hamlin. I thought he stepped up pretty big when

965
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: Michael Hyde got hurt last year. And honestly, if he

966
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: can overcome everything that happened in the Bengals game and

967
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: just be a tackle and machine. I think that that

968
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 2: would be just a good story and honestly pretty awesome.

969
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: Definitely, it would be a good story. I don't think

970
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 3: there's any debate about that because you know, just about

971
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: everybody and their brother is pulling for him to make

972
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: the successful comeback and get all the way back to

973
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 3: you know, not only playing in pads and hitting people

974
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: again and playing real football, but making the fifty three

975
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: man roster.

976
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the thing too. Think about him coming

977
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: back and actually just making the team. That's a big

978
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: that's a big accomplishment, and you can spin that any

979
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: way you want. You can think about think about what

980
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: a story would be if you know, if he has

981
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: a phenomenal season or a season of a lifetime, the

982
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: Bills and all their hopes and dreams come true and

983
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: that guy's in the middle of it. That's you couldn't

984
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: sell that script to Hollywood. It's too corny, right, it's

985
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: too hokey. But man or man wouldn't be cool with Yeah,

986
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: it'd be pretty that would be pretty cool.

987
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: Uh, we have to go back to the phones to

988
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: Mark and West senecon X.

989
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 5: What do you got for us Mark, Hey, Chrissy, Steve, Uh,

990
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: maybe I don't consider this maybe an actual breakout of

991
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: the guy I'm going to talk about because he's been

992
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 5: a starter in the league, but he would be a

993
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 5: breakout for the Bills. And that's rap Taylor rapped okay.

994
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

995
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 5: And the reason I'm saying that is, as much as

996
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 5: I like to call and complain about Doorsy with you guys,

997
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 5: I think he's They're going to be fine on the offensive.

998
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 5: You know, they'll get it right, they'll score enough points.

999
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 5: And like Steve says, they've been prolific, even though it

1000
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: was a heavy lift at times. But I really think

1001
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 5: we need to figure out a way to use rap

1002
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 5: against some of these prolific passing offenses in order to

1003
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 5: slow these teams down in the playoffs, assuming we get there.

1004
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 5: Uh And And I think that's been one of our

1005
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 5: biggest biggest problems in the playoffs with our defense overall,

1006
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 5: in winning these games, we haven't been able to slow

1007
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: teams down, much less stop them. And I think if

1008
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 5: they can figure out a way to use rap against

1009
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 5: these passing teams without giving up too much against the run,

1010
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 5: that's going to go a long way. And letting us

1011
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 5: finally get to the super Bowl. That's just my thought

1012
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 5: something your.

1013
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: Last year. It's you know, in the in the loss

1014
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati, and I'm not dis kind of what you say,

1015
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: except maybe I am, Maybe I am a little bit.

1016
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: The Bengals scored exactly their average of points that they

1017
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: had throughout the regular season, So whatever success the Bengals

1018
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: had or didn't have, they were about average against the Bills.

1019
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: The Bills have had pretty good success against the Chiefs

1020
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: as well, albeit outside of thirteen seconds. They have hung

1021
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: in there with that team and matched up pretty well

1022
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: with them. Defensively. I think the one thing they missed

1023
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: in the last in you know, the matchups with them

1024
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: has been guy like Vaughn, and Vaughn made the big

1025
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: difference in their game last year in the regular season

1026
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: when he was you know, pressuring Mahomes and he got

1027
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: him on the ground a couple of times and then

1028
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: forced that last game clinching interception. So I think defensively

1029
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: the Bills have been really good against those teams, but

1030
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: in crucial moments maybe like you know, like the end

1031
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: of the the game when Gabe Davis's four touch down game,

1032
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: the thirteen second game. You can certainly call that into question.

1033
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: It's been a team that has been really good defensively.

1034
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: But I'm with you in the fact that Taylor Rapp

1035
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: was brought here for a reason. Certainly they don't want

1036
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: to get left searching because last year Damar Hanlin was

1037
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: actually the third guy to replace Micah Hyde, the second guy,

1038
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: or the second guy to play replace Mike guy. The

1039
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: second guy was and I can't remember as who was

1040
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: it that Cowon Johnson came in, he didn't get it

1041
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: done or and got bench and they put Damar in.

1042
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: So I think they didn't want to get caught in

1043
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: that spot and wanted to have a quality guy there

1044
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: not only to compete for both Micah Hyde and Jordan

1045
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: Poyer's spot, but also to be there in case one

1046
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: of them went down again. Both those guys are in

1047
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: there early to mid thirties, you got to be ready

1048
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: for that. As was proven last year. Poyer was an

1049
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: absolute hero the way he suited up every single week

1050
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: last week last year, they didn't want to have it.

1051
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: It'd be better if he had a guy like Taylor

1052
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: rap Give Poyer two weeks off to come back healthy,

1053
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: right and put Rap on the field, they didn't have

1054
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: any They didn't have that kind of depth last year.

1055
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: As good as Yakwan and DeMar played, they weren't as

1056
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: good as Poyer and Hide. Rap has a chance to

1057
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: get in that ballpark.

1058
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: I think part of the reason why you could almost

1059
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: classify Rap as an under the radar player even though

1060
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: he's a proven starter in this league, is because people

1061
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: are naturally expecting Poorer and Hide to remain the tandem

1062
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: at the safety position with both of them back in

1063
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: the fold after Poyer re signed with the club, and

1064
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: that is only natural to assume that, and so people

1065
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: are like, well, where does that leave Rap? But like,

1066
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 3: what is he really going to do to break out?

1067
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 3: I think he is too good a player for Sean

1068
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: McDermot and his staff to not find a role for

1069
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: him in some way, shape or form, whether it is

1070
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 3: as the dime package safe or maybe it's some other

1071
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: iteration of that. Maybe he is a hybrid linebacker at times.

1072
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: So I think he's too good a player to keep

1073
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: off the field defensively. So now it is incumbent upon

1074
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: the coaching staff to find a way to incorporate him

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00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: into a game plan each week to get him plays

1076
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: on the field so he can make plays for that defense.

1077
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: That's kind of where I said with that. Now, how

1078
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: does he emerge and you break out in training camp

1079
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: in what could be maybe a more limited role than

1080
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: he's used to playing. Well, I don't know. He's probably

1081
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: gonna get his fair share of safety snaps. It just

1082
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: might not be with the ones at training camp.

1083
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: It's it's the same problem, and it's people always love

1084
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: to do it because it's offense. But it's the same

1085
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: problem for Sean McDermott and the defensive staff as it

1086
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: is for Ken Dorsey and the offensive staff. Trying to

1087
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: find creative ways to use James Cook, Khalil Shakir and

1088
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid in the mix with Steph Diggs and Dalton

1089
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: Not or Dauwston Not. You gotta have so many creative

1090
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: ways to mix those guys in and find ways to

1091
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: use them In offense. You can kind of go out

1092
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: there and see how the defense is gonna match up

1093
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: and then see if you can take advantage of it.

1094
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: Same thing on defense. You put Taylor Rap out there

1095
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: and you sit down who Terrell Dodson, You sit down

1096
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Dodson or you sit down aj Klein or a specter

1097
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: or whoever the middle linebacker is. You put a third

1098
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: safety on and let Matt Mlano be the mic for

1099
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: a minute, and you see how this other how the

1100
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: offense is gonna match up with it. And if they

1101
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: start to get big and physical with you, and you

1102
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: got Milano and Wrap there as your linebackers and you're

1103
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: getting out pushed, then you gotta switch. But if you

1104
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: go out there and and the Bills have been notorious

1105
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: for this, they got the same eleven guys on the

1106
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: field all the time. It was Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano

1107
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: and the five dbs that we all know, and four

1108
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: rotating defensive linemen, and they rush for most of the time.

1109
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: That's that they were notori for that. So now Sean

1110
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: mcdermot's taken over the defense, they may try to do

1111
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: some different things. But if that's that same philosophy, they

1112
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: may force you to throw it against three safeties and

1113
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: three corners and one linebacker Matt Mulano, who is a

1114
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: wizard at coverage, So then what are you gonna do.

1115
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: They may force you to just hand the ball off

1116
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: all day and all of a sudden it's a third

1117
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: and four or third and five plus and now you've

1118
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: got to throw it against him and you can't. So

1119
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: they may get into that, but that's the creative aspect

1120
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: that you've got to put on the defensive side. We

1121
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: always talk about it on the offensive side, but you know,

1122
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: maybe mcdermot's gonna say, listen, all right, here's what we're

1123
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna do and float it out there because the offense

1124
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: still has to match up with that somehow.

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Speaker 3: Someway true that you mentioned that you could see Milano

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: shifting over Rap coming onto the field and whoever the

1127
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: mic packer is is off the field. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if Milano's calling it though, because when you think about it,

1129
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: you know Michah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, they do a lot

1130
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: of direction and communication on the field. I would think

1131
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: Rap has that in his toolbox as well from his

1132
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: days with the Rams. Wouldn't surprise me if they have

1133
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: Rap do that, because I think if you think about

1134
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Milano as a player, Steve, and I'm not trying to

1135
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: disagree with you in any way, all I'm saying is

1136
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: Milano's skill set is rooted in instincts, and if you've

1137
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: got him thinking about making checks and other things for

1138
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 3: other people. I think you rob him of his instincts

1139
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: because now he's thinking about the ten other guys. Do

1140
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: I have him lined up?

1141
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: Right?

1142
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 3: I just say you get on the field and you go,

1143
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: Rap will handle this, and you know, and off we

1144
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 3: go from there.

1145
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's fun to think about too, because you

1146
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: put Rap on the field with Poyer and Hyde and

1147
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: Todavious White, Kyer Elam and Taron Johnson. You got like

1148
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: six DB's out there virtually with Mala and then all

1149
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden you start moving guys around. Well, you

1150
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: got three guys who know both safeties positions, and.

1151
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 3: All three of them can come down and cover, right.

1152
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: They can all come down and cover. They can also

1153
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: all come down and blitz, or they can all come

1154
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: down and get in the run game because their safeties

1155
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Yeah, So all of a sudden,

1156
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: you got three guys on that demon. You know where

1157
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: they're at because that's what Hide and Poyer do. So

1158
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: well they're moving. If you watch game film once in

1159
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: a while, and I was watching this and during ot

1160
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: you got those guys walking in the wrong direction at

1161
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: the snap of the ball, and all of a sudden

1162
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: it snaps and two of them move completely different to

1163
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: a different area than they they You thought it looked

1164
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: like they were going before the snap, and they sprint

1165
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: there and they're there in time and the quarterbacks going wha,

1166
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: wait what? And that's all you need. So if you've

1167
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: got three guys doing that instead of the way the

1168
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: success Poyer and Heide have had just doing it with two,

1169
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you mix in a guy

1170
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: like you know, like rap, it really becomes mental gymnastics

1171
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: for a quarterback who's got two point five seconds get

1172
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: rid of it. Yeah.

1173
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: I really kind of felt, and I said this when

1174
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: I appeared on the morning show here in Buffalo with

1175
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: Jeremy and Joe, that the way Fraser called this defense

1176
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: it was pretty vanilla because he relied on the talent

1177
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: he had at his disposal with his starting eleven. I

1178
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: think Sean, while he respects the town level he has

1179
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball this year, which

1180
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: I think in many respects you can argue is upgraded

1181
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 3: at most positions. Maybe middle linebacker is the exception. I

1182
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: would anticipate he's gonna get a little bit more exotic

1183
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 3: with the scheme you know, to the point we're trying

1184
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: to make here with Taylor rap and so because of that,

1185
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: I think there is going to be more for opponents

1186
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: of the Bills to prepare for each week because they're

1187
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: gonna spin the dial. I think a little bit more

1188
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: than they have the last few years. I think that

1189
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: is one noticeable change we should all anticipate. Have yet

1190
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: to get to the tweet sheet. We're going to do

1191
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: that now. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

1192
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. I

1193
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 3: mean moving people here this week pretty soon to get

1194
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: people up there, get all the equipment up there for

1195
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 3: training camp at Saint John Fisher. But Garvey on the

1196
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 3: tweet sheet says Nahim Heinz, I want to see that

1197
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,959
Speaker 3: Dorsey has a plan to incorporate him into the passing game.

1198
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 3: He can bring another level to the offense with cook

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Speaker 3: out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: You put those two guys back there and three receivers

1202
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: on the field. That's a speed package.

1203
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: Holy crow.

1204
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody can catch it.

1205
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: I think it's great.

1206
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: I haven't heard much from Hines from the listeners and

1207
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: the fans, right, I think a lot of people are

1208
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: hoping for that.

1209
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: I think they did need to get faster a little bit.

1210
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Hardy's certainly an answer to that. Surefields a guy that can.

1211
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: Really scoot, and then Cooking and Heines can move.

1212
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: Cook, Cook can go, and so can Hines. I Cook.

1213
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: The four guy speed is a really really underappreciated aspect

1214
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: of this offense because it hasn't they haven't had it

1215
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: in the years past. Cook might have him, give him

1216
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: a chance to do that. We'll see. I'm I just

1217
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: think it's really fun to think about it. It's easy

1218
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: for us to sit out there and say and like

1219
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: wave our hand at Can Dorsey and say, be creative,

1220
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: be creative, you know, and make it look better. Yeah,

1221
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: make it look bad, you know, fix it, you know.

1222
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: And and I get all of that. But he's working

1223
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: with guys who have different skill sets, and he's working

1224
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: against a defense every week that's different than the one

1225
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: he faced the week before. There's a there's a lot

1226
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: to do and very little time to do it. But

1227
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: I think he's you think about it, you know. I

1228
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited about seeing Ken Dorsey year two

1229
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: and to grow a little bit and to see him

1230
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: go see him and Josh, go back look at what

1231
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: they did week to week last year and evolve with

1232
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: it and say, okay, oh we could do better here

1233
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: and here, we can do this better. And you know what,

1234
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: we're still doing this. What's the problem. Let's fix that

1235
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: what we have to do and then address all those things.

1236
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot of fun, and

1237
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: I think I think Josh is gonna come back, and

1238
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna take a step forward this year.

1239
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to see. I they're gonna be a

1240
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: really good offense again, and I don't think it'll look

1241
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: exactly like it did last year.

1242
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 3: Tiffany on the tweets sheet says, I'm excited to see

1243
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 3: Trent Surefield compete this summer. I have a feeling he's

1244
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: going to make a few heads turned with his run

1245
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: after the catch capabilities. Yeah, very steadily. We're making our

1246
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: way through the receiving corps here, Steve. We've heard a

1247
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 3: lot of Shakir support. We just got Trent Sherfield, so

1248
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: we even had some justin Shorter, you know, the rookie

1249
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: so people it's interesting. People are focused on the receiver spot.

1250
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I'm one of the guys that

1251
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about, and I get for good read.

1252
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Leonard Floyd I think could thrive

1253
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: in this defense, particularly if Vaughn comes back healthy. And

1254
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: I think Leonard Floyd is going to be a guy

1255
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: that is going to make a difference for this defense.

1256
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: They are going to be significantly better up front on

1257
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 1: the pass rush weekend week out. That's even before Vaughn

1258
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: comes back or however long he's out. Leonard Floyd is

1259
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: a really good player. He's a veteran player with a

1260
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: lot of ability. He's a really really effective pass rusher.

1261
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of bend, and he's fast off

1262
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: the edge. So I think this is a guy that

1263
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: has a chance to emerge as a difference maker on

1264
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: a team that has been really good defensively up to

1265
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: this point, but is in a position to give him

1266
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: the opportunities that you know that he's perfectly suited to

1267
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: take advantage of.

1268
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: Andrea on the tweets Sheet says is hardy under the radar.

1269
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: Everyone's talking Diggs, Davis and King Ka. This guy could

1270
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: be a safety valve for Josh. I think a lot

1271
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 3: of people look at Deontay Hardy Steve, and they see

1272
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 3: that he's relatively the same size as Mackenzie. He's actually

1273
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 3: an in shorter than Mackenzie, and they say, oh, okay,

1274
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 3: like you know, a gadget guy underneath all that stuff.

1275
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 3: I think he's more dynamic than that. I think Deontay

1276
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: Hardy is going to surprise some people and open some

1277
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 3: eyes with his game breaking ability. I mean, you can

1278
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: pull it up on YouTube or wherever online. Just look

1279
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 3: up Deontay Hardy highlights. This guy is a flash. I

1280
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 3: mean he outrun angles on defenders. Like you watch a player,

1281
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 3: it looks like the defender has an angle on Hardy

1282
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he's passed him and down

1283
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: the sideline and you're like, whoa where did that come from.

1284
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 3: I mean he is a dynamic speed athlete. He's not

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Speaker 3: gonna break tackles. I mean he's five foot six, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, guy's an inch shorter than I am. But

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Speaker 3: that guy can move.

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Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, he's very He's really really fast. And that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that puts pressure on a defense

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01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: and makes them react faster than they would have to otherwise.

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 1: It makes them bail out of areas that other players

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Speaker 1: can get into and be open. He is a problem

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Speaker 1: with his speed.

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Speaker 3: Matchup problem.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's a matchup problem. And now you're right, he does.

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Speaker 1: Guys like that don't break a lot of tackles, but

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Speaker 1: they do make some places that other players cannot make.

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Speaker 3: It so because nobody can catch them, right, Yeah, can't

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Speaker 3: tackle him if he can Catchell.

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Speaker 1: Plus, it's one of the one of those things where

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Speaker 1: he gets in there, you throw him one of those

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Speaker 1: little whips bubble screens, whip brout, or you get two

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Speaker 1: guys out in front of them, one guy and we're

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Speaker 1: handed to him on a quick end around and he

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Speaker 1: gets lost in that traffic there. It sounds crazy, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you lose the guy behind a guy the size of

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Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins and Trent Edwards or David Edwards and those

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: guys you know coming out. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways to use them, and their speed is the key

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Speaker 1: to their success. And it's also you know, like we've said,

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing defenses are really really cautious about,

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Speaker 1: and that's a fast team.

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Speaker 3: Adam on the tweets sheet, he's going off the board here,

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Speaker 3: he says, Spencer Brown. Not sure he's under the radar,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like it's a make or break year

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Speaker 3: for him. His improvement is vital to that offensive line. Well,

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: you're not wrong there, and you know, I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of us are expecting Spencer in his third season

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Speaker 3: to have a breakout year. We've listed other players here

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Speaker 3: in the in the Bills organization who through player development,

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01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 3: have broken out as players in their third season. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Tarren Johnson, Dawson Knox. I mean, there is

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01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 3: a list of players that have done very well, and

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are hoping that not

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Speaker 3: only Spencer Brown, but Greg Rousseau, another third year player,

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01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: can really break out and not just be a starter,

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Speaker 3: but be a week to week contributor that delivers maybe

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01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 3: a few big plays every now and then. For Spencer Brown,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe that's a big old kickout block where

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Speaker 3: he washes out two defenders and gives you know, Damian

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: Harris smooth sailing to the end zone. Obviously, for Rousseau

1332
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 3: there's an easier stat to keep on him with quarterback

1333
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: hits and pressures and sacks. But I think I think

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01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 3: people are encouraged knowing Spencer Brown is coming into this

1335
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 3: season health fee that he can really hit the ground

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 3: running this time around, as opposed to last year, you

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01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: had no backstory, he was playing ketchup, you had no

1338
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 3: back surgery in the off season.

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Speaker 1: He can train the entire offseason, he can take you.

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Speaker 3: Can train for football right, not getting his back healthy.

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: Right, and he can participate in practices and Plus at

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: this point he doesn't have a high ankle sprain either.

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: So you know, these guys, they're curtailed by their inability

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: to prepare to play well because they're not healthy enough

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: to prepare. They can't train hard, they can't lift hard,

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01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: they can't practice hard because they're you know, injured. It

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01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: makes a big difference, particularly at this time of year

1348
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 1: when you got to get this stuff under your belt

1349
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: and this last year. Last year, at this time, Spencer

1350
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,839
Speaker 1: Brown was standing around watching he couldn't do anything.

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hopefully it makes a world of difference for

1352
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: him in terms of his performance. We have two week

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: on the field.

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01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: And it's not it's I mean, we had David Kessenberry

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: last year, but this is a deeper offensive line than it.

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01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: Was Brandon Shell. It's going to compete with Questenberry and

1357
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 3: with Spencer Brown, I mean that guy's started seventy two

1358
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 3: games in this league.

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Speaker 1: He's he's got some chops. I've got some guys over

1360
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: there that are going to push these young guys, and

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01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, Spencer Brown's one of them.

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: Got some interesting entries on the tweets sheet coming up

1363
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: when we come back, as some of the contributors here

1364
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 3: are flipping over to the defensive side of the ball

1365
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 3: for some under the radar players, we'll tell you who

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 3: they are next here. All one Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 3: together to raise money for local nonprofits with a chance

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Speaker 3: on Monday, July seventeenth, right at one pm at the

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Speaker 3: McKinley mall or at the Wegmans on McKinley Parkway, I

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 3: should say Blaisdell, New York. And I am actually on

1379
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 3: vacation next week, so Josh Reed will be stepping in

1380
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: for me. He'll be on with Steve at the Wegmans

1381
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: on McKinley Parkway one pm is the show goes on

1382
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 3: the road for give seven to one to six day.

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 3: Pretty cool.

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: Nice. Wegman has always been a big part of it,

1385
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: and we appreciate them being on board with us and

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: all that. Josh Reed and are going to be out.

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01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: We've got some stuff gone and let me I don't

1388
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: want to overstate my case here. We do have some

1389
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: stuff that's going to be on the show on Monday,

1390
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Give it away.

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: Give it away, so that's fair. Probably people just out

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: shopping for groceries stop by, I sit down, say.

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Speaker 3: Hi, that's right, Hey, whatever's plas where we're gonna be?

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: Where are they gonna put us in the Wegmans the freezer?

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01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: Sex you right, that's yours? What I was thinking too.

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01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe in the beer cooler. It wouldn't be all bad.

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01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 3: Well, the second hour the show might not be so

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01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 3: good yeah right.

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Speaker 1: The second thanks for stopping by.

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01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 3: Back to the tweetchee where we told you some people

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 3: were weighing in with some defensive suggestions for the under

1403
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 3: the radar player they'd like to see breakout in training

1404
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 3: camp at Saint John Fisher this summer, and Pat says

1405
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 3: on defense, I'm thinking Dorian Williams will be the guy

1406
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 3: that will step up and earn the linebacker position over

1407
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard, who has played well enough last year to

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01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: be that guy when called on. Interesting So so far

1409
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 3: today we've had two rookies, Justin Shorter and Dorian Williams.

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01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 3: I guess nobody really considers Dalton kincaidan under the race guy.

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01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: He's probably expected to step in.

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01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 1: Red him right, Yeah, that's probably true.

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01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 3: Scooter on the tweets sheet says, I'm not counting on it,

1414
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 3: but would love to see Dorian Williams breakout as a

1415
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: clear cut starter alongside Milano. I think he's got an

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01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: uphill battle here, though, I really do, because we know

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 3: how much this coaching staff leans towards players with experience,

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: and Bernard inspector are two guys that have a year

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01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 3: in this system. Dorian Williams does not he is learning

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01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: on the fly, not saying he's not capable of traversing

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01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 3: that learning curve. But Bernard Inspector have an advantage, so

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01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: too does Tyrel Dodson, who's been in this defense. I

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01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 3: think this is fourth year in this defense. So that's

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 3: three guys that already have the jump on Williams in

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 3: terms of experience. Again, not to say he can't overtake

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 3: them for the spot, but the deck is is a

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01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 3: little little bit stacked against him.

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01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: I think, right if you if you go buy athleticism,

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: Specter was in the ballpark, if not better in some

1430
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: areas than Williams was last year when he came out.

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01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: And Spector's got a year under his belt playing special

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: teams in the league. So it's not you know, it's

1433
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 1: not gonna be you know, he's gonna want to evolve

1434
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: through that, so I you know, it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard for any of these rookies. None of them are

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, you know, I mean, seventeenth pick of the

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Speaker 1: draft or whatever he was and sixteen and coming in

1438
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: just being plugged in because there's some guys there that

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01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: can play. That wasn't really the case when Tremaine got drafted.

1440
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: So he was a guy that was built forward and

1441
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: groom ford and from the day one he came in

1442
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: ready to do it. And that was one of the

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Speaker 1: things we remember when Tremaine was a first year player,

1444
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: how he had spent hours and hours learning the checks

1445
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: and the adjustment packages of the defense and recognition of

1446
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: the offensive formations and sets and what the checks were

1447
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: for each one of those. Spent a lot of time

1448
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: doing that. And you know, I just think they've got

1449
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: guys who are gonna be way ahead of Williams in

1450
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: that process on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see how it all plays out when we

1452
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: get the training camp in a couple of weeks. Connor

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01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 3: on the tweets sheet says, oh, Cyrus Torrance. I think

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 3: he was an absolute steal in the second round for Buffalo.

1455
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: There is definitely a great chance he could earn the

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Speaker 3: starting job and be a staple of the Bills O

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Speaker 3: line for the foreseeable future. I kind of like that pick.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a high draft choice. He's gonna be

1459
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 3: given every opportunity to prove he deserves the job over

1460
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Speaker 3: incumbent Ryan Bates. David Edwards might be part of that

1461
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 3: competition as well. We'll have to wait and see, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean they make Torrents the second round pick for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wouldn't it be nice if that was the case,

1464
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: if he's stepped up when all of a sudden people

1465
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: were noticing him right out of the gate. It's not

1466
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: easy to do it guard in the NFL. It's it's

1467
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: happened before and we'll see, but yeah, that would you know,

1468
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: push comes to shove. You need a guy that can

1469
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: push and shove, you know, so see if it's to Cyrus,

1470
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Speaker 1: doesn't do a whole lot in reverse. Yeah, so uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like that pick as well. That because let's think

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Speaker 1: about it, that's saying something. He's the second round pick,

1473
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: so he's got some expectations attached to him. But got

1474
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Speaker 1: David Edwards right there, Ryan Bates the incumbent right there,

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Speaker 1: and he's got Connor mcgovernor on the other side. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's four pretty good guys there. He's he's and he's

1477
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Speaker 1: the youngest and maybe the one who has the longest

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01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: run up to you know, maybe expectations are that he

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Speaker 1: gets on the field if he stepped up and all

1480
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's right there on opening day. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about where he's at

1482
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: a lot, because I.

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Speaker 3: Think that's high.

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Speaker 1: That's a high. I mean, he's the second round pick.

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Speaker 1: I get all that, but man, oh man, they've got

1486
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Speaker 1: some guys.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think he'll get a good look at it,

1488
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: though I don't know. I think you'll get a look

1489
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Speaker 3: at it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they brought him in here to you know,

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: they didn't bring him in here to watch.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see Bill on the tweet sheet says Boogie

1493
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: bash him aj Epenessa simply because the more success you

1494
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: get at the D line, the better they will be,

1495
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 3: with or without Vaughn. Is he talking about the more

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Speaker 3: success you get at the D line, the better they

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01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: will be. So he's saying if the line as a

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 3: whole is more successful, those two will be successful as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to read between the lines there.

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Speaker 1: I do not know.

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01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 3: Bash him is another third year player that has to

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01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 3: show up here. Epanessa's going into his fourth year, and

1503
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 3: that guy's the clock is really ticking on his situation.

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01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 3: So those especially with the added competition here in the

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01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 3: form of Leonard Floyd, as you mentioned, earlier in the show.

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: And let's not forget too that they had an undrafted

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 3: player who was on their practice squad, went to Chicago

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01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 3: for five games, played on their active roster, then got released,

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01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: came back to the Bills practice squad, played in a

1510
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: game on Christmas Eve for Buffalo flashed Kingsley Jonathan, who

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01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 3: is my under the radar guy. If I could see

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01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 3: him emerging in training camp and giving this coaching staff

1513
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: some difficult decisions to make.

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01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another one on the tweet sheet that just

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01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: crossed over at Leonard Floyd could be an addition like

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01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: Bryce Pop was or leon Seals on the other side

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01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: of Bruce Smith. Now that would be something fun. I mean,

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01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: Bruce was right in the thick of his prime, but

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01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: Bryce Pop came in and became defensive Player of the

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01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 1: Year because people staunchly refused to double team him because

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01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: they were double team and Bruce and Bryce Pop could rush.

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: Is a big, strong, athletic dude, and he you know,

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01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 1: he had like a ton of sack. I can't remember

1524
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: how many sacks. He was Defensive Player of the Year

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01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. And you know, in large measure

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01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: he's rushing opposite Bruce, which is, you know, John on

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01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: the tweetsheets ideas that Vaughn would be like Bruce in

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01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: that scenario and Leonard Floyd would be like Bryce pop

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01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: and have a breakout year. It's a good thought. I

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01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: like the history of it. That's kind of hard to do.

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01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 3: Here is under the radar player let Gino Cook says,

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: I hope Tyrrell Shavers ends up on special teams at

1533
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 3: San Diego State. He blocked three kicks and return three

1534
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 3: block punts for touchdowns. Now he's a receiver, another one

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01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: of those guys that was over six foot but I

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: don't Yeah, jersey number eighty so Steve, how about that though?

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01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 3: Three block punts for two touchdowns. Yeah, it's hard to

1538
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 3: be block kicks, hard to block punts in the NFL.

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01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 3: It is you can do things in college with alignment

1540
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 3: and personnel that you can't do in the pros because

1541
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 3: of player safety.

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01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh man. Yeah, you get blocked three block kicks and

1543
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna win three of those those three games. That's

1544
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: pretty good.

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01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 3: Special teams for sure.

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01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: Certainly he's And the thing you like about it is

1547
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: a lot of these players come out of the college ranks,

1548
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: they've never covered a kick, never covered a punt, because

1549
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, they were always these top flight college players.

1550
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: But you get a guy like this who could come

1551
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: in and who knows what it's like and who's who

1552
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: welcomes it. That gives him an enormous leg up on

1553
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: some of the other guys that are in his position

1554
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: as rookies coming in who have to learn the mentality

1555
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: of covering kicks, get an appetite forward, get their mind

1556
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: around saying Okay, I gotta do this and putting some

1557
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: effort into it, some thought and some investment emotionally, a

1558
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 1: guy like him can could do this right away. It

1559
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 1: gives him a leg up. And certainly, listen, if you

1560
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: start blocking kicks, you're gonna be You're gonna be on

1561
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: the fifty three.

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01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Here's an interesting one from David on the tweet sheet.

1563
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 3: Trey White, if he comes back to full form, it

1564
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: will be huge for Sean McDermott where he can run

1565
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 3: more blitz packages while Trey handles his assignment. If Trey

1566
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 3: White is back to all pro form, this defense is

1567
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 3: gonna be pretty tough. I mean, think about here, here's

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01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 3: the thing that I think about when I think about

1569
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 3: Trey White coming back and playing like an all pro again,

1570
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 3: Suddenly the matchup with Miami is not as daunting with

1571
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 3: Waddle and Hill. And if Kyrie Elam emerges and comes

1572
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 3: into his own, you know, now you've got answers for

1573
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 3: both those guys. I realize Wadda lines up in the

1574
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: slot a great deal, So maybe it's a Taron Johnson thing,

1575
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 3: but I feel equally good there. So if Trey White

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01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 3: is back to all pro form and Kyri Elam can

1577
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: emerge and seese that job and be the elite athletic

1578
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 3: talent that he is, whoa. I mean, suddenly the level

1579
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 3: of the secondary goes up another peg maybe two.

1580
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: Because you've already got one of the best slot corners

1581
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: as well in Terrence. So yeah, that's a big jump.

1582
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: If tra Davis comes back and plays at that level

1583
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: and you get a year of development under Kyrie Elm

1584
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: or even Christian but whoever the other corner is who,

1585
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: Whichever one of those guys it is who and both

1586
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: played well. It's exciting to think about because certainly the

1587
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: pass rush is going to be upgraded this year with

1588
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, and if Vaughan comes back and whenever he

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01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: comes back, and the day he does, it's better. That

1590
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: is a lot of fun to think about. Yeah, that

1591
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: is a lot of fun to think about.

1592
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 3: Break time for us here, one more segment to go.

1593
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 3: We'll get some final thoughts on the sweetshet here next

1594
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 3: year on One Bills Drive, One Bill's Live at One

1595
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 3: Bill's Drive, stay tuned all right back here on Won

1596
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: Bill's Live for one more segment here, Mike on the

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01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 3: tweets sheet says, Justin Shorter, for sure, dude is built

1598
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 3: and honestly, I think his talent as a prospect will

1599
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 3: grow exponentially with Josh getting in the ball throughout camp

1600
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 3: and the preseason. Jimmy says hardy on offense, wrap on defense.

1601
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 3: Mike says Bookie Basham. And there was one more here.

1602
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 3: I wanted to get out Khalil Shakir. Another vote there

1603
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 3: and then Josh says, one of the guys fighting for

1604
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 3: the middle linebacker spine, which is fair. Yeah, one thing

1605
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 3: I wanted to bounce off you, Steve thirty eight years

1606
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 3: ago today live aid in London and Philadelphia for the

1607
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 3: famine victims in Ethiopia. I was a thirteen year old,

1608
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 3: impressionable young teenager watch a lot of that show, which

1609
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: was aired on two continents, maybe even more than two continents,

1610
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 3: now that I think about it, what is the one

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01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 3: musical act you think of when somebody says live aid

1612
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 3: to you, Is there one musical act that Queen that

1613
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 3: is the most popular answer? By far?

1614
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: Well, they came out and they're the movie.

1615
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 3: They brought the house to.

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01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: Bohemian Rhapsody was kind of centered around the ending of

1617
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: the climax of the movie. Was their performance there before

1618
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: Eddie Mercury died, So Queen perform and then they got

1619
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: footage of it.

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01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,759
Speaker 3: Dude, it's a sea of people. It went by. It

1621
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 3: is a sea of humanities.

1622
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: It's like the Persian Army all. It's like unbelievable. Yeah,

1623
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. It's amazing footage. And yeah, so that's it.

1624
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 3: Great lineup of bands, I mean some of some names

1625
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 3: from the past. I mean adam Ant, Boomtown Rats, David Bowie,

1626
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:56,480
Speaker 3: Phil Collins, Elvis Costello, Dire Straits, Elton John, I mean,

1627
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 3: Queen was there, and then in Philadelphi when they were

1628
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 3: playing there, Mick Jagger was there, Billy Joel Huey, Lewis

1629
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 3: Robert Plant unbelievable. Steve's on vacation tomorrow. I'm in here

1630
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 3: with Chris Japasso. We'll see it one