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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am so glad

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Speaker 2: you're here today because I am joined by Julie Kelly,

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Speaker 2: an author, an investigative journalist who is known for her

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Speaker 2: unique and breaking news coverage. Whether it's the COVID nineteen

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Speaker 2: lockdowns January sixth, or the many indictments against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: Julie has covered some of the most pivotal moments in

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Speaker 2: recent political history, and she has a particular affinity for

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Speaker 2: rooting out and exposing the weaponization and corruption occurring in

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Speaker 2: our government, which we seem to be seeing more of

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Speaker 2: every single day, particularly at the DOJ and FBI. And

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Speaker 2: as we sit here on the morning of the first

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Speaker 2: Republican primary debate for president, I want to thank Julie

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Speaker 2: for joining me as we dig into some of that

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Speaker 2: recent reporting and how she thinks that's going to impact

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Speaker 2: this twenty twenty four race for president. Julie, thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for being here.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Tutor, thanks for having me on joining you from

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Speaker 3: the other side of Lake Michigan.

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Speaker 4: So for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for joining me from that side. It's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful lake. We're very blessed to be in this

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Speaker 2: area of the country. You're there because something really big

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Speaker 2: is happening today, and that is the debate for the

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Speaker 2: one of those people is not going to be there.

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Speaker 2: We all know that the former president Donald Trump has

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Speaker 2: he is someone that is always unpredictable. That's one thing

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Speaker 2: that we know about Donald Trump for sure, is that

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Speaker 2: you don't know what he's ever going to do, but

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Speaker 2: you know a lot about what he's going through right now,

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Speaker 2: and that is for indictments.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain?

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Speaker 2: I think that one of the things that people have

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Speaker 1: How does that work?

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Speaker 3: You know what looks like in terms of the Georgia

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump will be doing the same thing. I see

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Speaker 3: some legal observers, some fair ones on our side, feeling

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Speaker 3: So have those conversations well, I think she has those conversations,

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Speaker 3: How would she have obtained a text between Mark Meadows

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Speaker 3: it's not just about Donald Trump. It's about the eleven

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Speaker 2: That's I actually was just going to say that because

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Speaker 3: So thank you for asking me that. I've been covering

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Speaker 2: And so it's not that they have to they have

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Speaker 1: They were taken. They have no trial.

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Speaker 2: This is like guilty before you have a chance to

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Speaker 2: They have no way of getting out. Correct, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: They were rounded up, they were subjected to the FBI's

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Speaker 2: On the Tutor Dixon Podcast, we had a guest on

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Speaker 1: How many people.

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Speaker 1: So I mean not to play the whataboutism card.

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting to see this level of vindiction, or

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Speaker 2: And in fact, when we look at what Democrats are

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Speaker 3: So I want to pick up on something you were

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Speaker 2: And federal buildings in Portland too. Remember they were throwing

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Speaker 4: No, they're not.

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Speaker 3: And that's what really enrages people, as you know, Tutor,

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Speaker 3: The Florida the classified documents one is sort of a joke.

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Speaker 3: But she won't be so Jack Smith brought these charges.

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Speaker 2: Seem like if you're going to a federal court, you're

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Speaker 4: Tudor.

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Speaker 3: You remember Jacob Chansley, the QAnon Shaman. That's what he

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Speaker 3: pleaded guilty to obstruction and he spent forty one months

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Speaker 3: in prison. So the likelihood that if this does go

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Speaker 3: to trial, if he is convicted, he will ultimately be

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Speaker 3: sentenced to at least four or five years in prison

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Speaker 3: on that obstruction count alone is very real, and there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of recent case law to support the fact

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Speaker 3: that he faces real jail time if he's convicted.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. This is pretty big if you're

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Speaker 2: talking about the twenty twenty four election. I think there

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Speaker 2: are certain people who feel like, well, I need to

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Speaker 2: vote for him because then he can take the country

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Speaker 2: back and he can stop this stuff from happening. And

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Speaker 2: then there's got to be other folks that are like,

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Speaker 2: what happens, We're going to have a president who could

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Speaker 2: potentially be in prison.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, Tutor.

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Speaker 3: Despite what Jack Smith has said about wanting to take

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Speaker 3: this case to trial in December of this year, which

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Speaker 3: is crazy, he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It's very unlikely that this case.

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Speaker 3: I mean, usually the average time for any of these

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Speaker 3: JA six cases to go to trial is about fourteen

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Speaker 3: to twenty months, So it's very unlikely that Jack Smith

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Speaker 3: will be able to take this to trial before the election,

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Speaker 3: and he's going to want to delay this too. He's

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Speaker 3: not ready to go to trial. He just admitted they've

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Speaker 3: got eleven million pages of discovery evidence that they have

467
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Speaker 3: to that they've turned over to Donald Trump's lawyers, So

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Speaker 3: he doesn't want this to go to trial. So the

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Speaker 3: likelihood that Donald Trump will be in jail, convicted, and

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Speaker 3: sentenced before election date or anywhere near it is highly unlikely. Now,

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Speaker 3: if Jack Smith brings seditious conspiracy charges against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: could he ask for pretrialed attention like he has in

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Speaker 3: other cases? Absolutely, And I wouldn't put it past him

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Speaker 3: for doing just that.

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Speaker 1: That would be wild, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes? Wow, So tonight tonight we have the rest of

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Speaker 2: the Republican field that is going They are going to

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Speaker 2: be debating what give us your predictions on does January

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Speaker 2: sixth even come up? And then if it doesn't come up,

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Speaker 2: or if it does come up, what else will they

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Speaker 2: talk about? That It'll be Trump focused because obviously he's

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Speaker 2: not there, but I think he's still going to steal

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Speaker 2: the show in some way or another.

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Speaker 3: I think the entire debate is going to be about

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. I think that I've heard and I've been

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Speaker 3: highly critical of some of the answers, especially from Governor

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis, who I'm a fan of. I have a

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Speaker 3: place in Florida. I really like what he's done there,

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Speaker 3: but his answers related to January sixth are totally, in

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Speaker 3: my mind unacceptable. If he says again tonight what he's

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Speaker 3: been saying to Tutor, which is we need to move

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Speaker 3: on from January sixth, that if the general election is

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Speaker 3: about the twenty what happened in twenty twenty in January sixth,

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Speaker 3: we will lose Ron DeSantis. The state of Florida has

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Speaker 3: the highest number of defendants in the January sixth prosecution.

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Speaker 3: He has over I believe one hundred and twenty, and

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Speaker 3: some of them facing the harshest charges and convictions like

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Speaker 3: seditious conspiracy. There is no moving on. They're still arresting

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Speaker 3: people from Florida. They're still holding people under pre trialed attention.

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Speaker 3: If a man in Floridori who is convicted at a

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Speaker 3: bench trial from it Reagan judge eighty one year old

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Speaker 3: Reagan judge Royce Lambert convicted in a bench trial, DOJ

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Speaker 3: came back and wants this man in jail for fourteen

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Speaker 3: years for allegedly sprang pepper spray at police that day.

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Speaker 3: This is not There's no comparable case or sentence like

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Speaker 3: this in Washington, d C. And now he has left,

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Speaker 3: He's on the lamb. He's escaping justice because he doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to spend fourteen years in prison. Ron DeSantis has

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Speaker 3: not spoken up for his own constituents who are being abused, vilified,

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Speaker 3: and destroyed. Quite frankly by this doj if he doesn't

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Speaker 3: have a better answer tonight, and he continues to say that,

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Speaker 3: I think you will keep seeing the slide in the polls.

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Speaker 3: But more importantly, I just feel personally disappointed and on

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Speaker 3: behalf of constituents and defendant's families in Florida who I

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Speaker 3: talk to. His silence on this matter is really deafening

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Speaker 3: of the field. Are going to say it was Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump's fault, He's responsible, it was an insurrection. You know,

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Speaker 3: Mike Pence will see what he has to say. But

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Speaker 3: I would expect for those who consider January sixth a

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Speaker 3: top issue and the biggest example of the weaponization of

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Speaker 3: DJ and FBI, if they continue to see the sort

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Speaker 3: of I said, lackluster, I think we really disappointing responses

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump will just continue to increase his lead over

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Speaker 3: this field.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I think about this politically, and you know,

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Speaker 2: reality and the political world are not always so easy

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Speaker 2: to meld together, right, you know this? So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I even here, as I sit here, think about, gosh,

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Speaker 2: we're going to put this out there, and really it's

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Speaker 2: one of the only times people will talk about what

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Speaker 2: is truly going on with January six because everyone is

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Speaker 2: so afraid that if I talk about it, I'll be canceled,

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Speaker 2: I'll be taken down. We can't discuss it. But this

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Speaker 2: is the I mean, why can't we have the conversation.

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Speaker 2: It's not a four or against it. These are the facts.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we talk about the facts. And because we're

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Speaker 2: not allowed to talk about the facts that people have

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Speaker 2: been taken in, that there are people that will continue

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Speaker 2: to be taken in, that these trials are going one

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Speaker 2: way or the other, people don't know. And I got

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Speaker 2: to say, out of sight, out of mind. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was the same thing with Hawaii. You know, everybody's like,

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Speaker 2: why isn't Joe Biden going there? If he's not in Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: no one knows how bad Hawaii is. If the news

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Speaker 2: media leaves Hawaii, then we don't realize how devastated Hawaii

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Speaker 2: is from this fire. It's the same thing here if

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Speaker 2: the news media steps away and they're afraid, and to

548
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Speaker 2: be honest with you, we're afraid to talk about this

549
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Speaker 2: because I'm like, gosh, I could lose this entire podcast

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Speaker 2: talking just talking about this.

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Speaker 1: It really is a fear.

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Speaker 2: And so politically, I just think about this and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: I know what these people are thinking. They're like, hmm,

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Speaker 2: I just would rather not touch that and figure it

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Speaker 2: out after the fact. And there are thousands of people

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Speaker 2: that this affected and continue to effectect.

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Speaker 3: Right, So, if you're a candidate and you're promising that

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Speaker 3: you are going to end the weaponization of government, that

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Speaker 3: you're going to fire the FBI director, that you are

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Speaker 3: going to take a hold of DOJ, you cannot have

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Speaker 3: that conversation and you cannot make that sort of a

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Speaker 3: campaign promise without talking about January sixth.

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Speaker 4: It is all.

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Speaker 3: It is the fixation of this Department of Justice. It

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Speaker 3: has been the top priority of the FBI, not just

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Speaker 3: main FBI, every single one of the fifty six FBI

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Speaker 3: field offices have been involved in these raids. They are

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Speaker 3: still investigating people, they are using social media companies, they're

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Speaker 3: getting bank records from Bank of America, they're getting I mean,

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Speaker 3: we have a long list of how this has been weaponed.

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Speaker 1: How are they how are they even allowed to do that?

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Speaker 2: I think that's the thing that people don't get when

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Speaker 2: they hear about this, And honestly, I think so on

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Speaker 2: both sides, they're like, hey, they shouldn't have done that,

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Speaker 2: So whatever is coming for them, I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: But there are levels of punishment. There is rule of law.

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Speaker 2: There are present cases that show President you know, we

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Speaker 2: know that not necessarily the way they've gone about this

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Speaker 2: is the right way. But how are they allowed to

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Speaker 2: go through your bank economy? Is that really something that

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Speaker 2: we just didn't know that the DJ is allowed to do?

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Speaker 3: Because they go to Bank of America and they say,

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Speaker 3: we want records of every customer that you have that

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Speaker 3: used their credit card or got cash from January fourth, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 3: and seventh in Washington, DC, and that's what they turned over.

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Speaker 3: They will go to Amazon and say we have this individual.

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Speaker 3: We want to see what purchases they made on Amazon

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Speaker 3: because we want to connect this shirt with this photograph

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Speaker 3: of this defendant who is outside the Capitol. They've gone

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Speaker 3: to Twitter and Facebook, social media companies forcing them, not

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Speaker 3: forcing them. Look, these companies are happy to work.

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Speaker 4: With the FBI. We saw this through the Twitter five right.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're working Brand and Glove.

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Speaker 3: So they will go to these companies and they'll say

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Speaker 3: we want all of the deleted all of the data

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Speaker 3: that was deleted from this individual's social media account. Then

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Speaker 3: they go through messages, they go through dms that they

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Speaker 3: had with people. They use memes that they posted as

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Speaker 3: evidence of wrongdoing. I mean, people, I hate to pop

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Speaker 3: my book, but I will. I mean I wrote about

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Speaker 3: this in my cos January sixth, how the Democrats use

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Speaker 3: the Capital protest to launch a war on terror against

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Speaker 3: the political right. I mean that book went to market

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Speaker 3: January of twenty twenty two. It's still ongoing. So anyone

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Speaker 3: who wants to move on or is too afraid to

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Speaker 3: confront this, first of all, they should not be president

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Speaker 3: because this is the top issue. Second of all, I've

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Speaker 3: dealt with cowardly politicians now lawmakers for two and a

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Speaker 3: half years who refuse to talk about this and tutor

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Speaker 3: not just talk about what DOJ is doing. Talk about

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Speaker 3: what federal agencies did to provoke the events of January

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Speaker 3: six That's the big thing. They don't want to talk

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Speaker 3: about the undercover FBI informants who are involved, the undercover

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Speaker 3: agents from numerous law enforcement officials. Why they had intelligence

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Speaker 3: that they claim talked about the threat on January sixth,

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Speaker 3: but it was buried and not shared with law enforcement.

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Speaker 3: Why Stephen Sun who just gave that interview with Tucker

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Speaker 3: Carlson for an hour, talked about how he was intentionally

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Speaker 3: kept in the dark, that he demanded for two days

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Speaker 3: extra National guardsmen and was thwarted, not just days ahead

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Speaker 3: of time, but that afternoon they still refused to give

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Speaker 3: him the help that he needed. Why is so much

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Speaker 3: evidence collected from the January sixth Select Committee?

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Speaker 4: Why is that buried?

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Speaker 3: Why do some congressmen now say some evidence has been destroyed.

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Speaker 3: Why do we not know more about the FBI's involvement,

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Speaker 3: and why.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we have to haunt Nancy Pelosi responsible?

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Speaker 2: Because truly, if I mean, I've talked to some of

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Speaker 2: the so to be fair, I want to say I've

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Speaker 2: talked to some of the Congressmen that were in session

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Speaker 2: that day and they being in that room, had no

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Speaker 2: idea what was happening, and they truly feared for their lives.

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Speaker 2: When I hear their stories, they're like, look, we had

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Speaker 2: no idea what was happening. It was terrifying. I was

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Speaker 2: calling my family to say goodbye. They were really afraid.

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Speaker 2: So why isn't Nancy Pelosi held accountable because she knew

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Speaker 2: all of that information. She knew all of that information

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Speaker 2: and her duty. But I think people forget she is

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Speaker 2: in control of Congress, her duty is to protect that building,

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Speaker 2: and somehow that's never come out. And it blows my

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Speaker 2: mind that the media hasn't been like, well, wait, when

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Speaker 2: is Nancy Pelosi going to go in front of the

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Speaker 2: J six committee and talk about this? And it just

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Speaker 2: has never happened. I mean, I've taken up a lot

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Speaker 2: of your time. I want to I would love to

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Speaker 2: have you back on because there's obviously something else that

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in, and that is what's happened in Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I know that you've studied quite a bit what happened

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes with the governor Whitmer kidnapping attempt, and

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Speaker 2: there's some information there that I think that you have

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Speaker 2: that most of the people in the country have never heard,

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Speaker 2: and that's just for me. It's been really enlightening to

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Speaker 2: have you here today because these are the things that

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Speaker 2: we don't know. There's nobody, like I said, that wants

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Speaker 2: to be putting themselves in the position of discussing it,

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Speaker 2: and Julie Kelly, honestly thank you for what you do

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Speaker 2: because there's no one else doing it. Can you tell

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Speaker 2: people where to get your book and the title of it?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 3: And I would love to come back on because the

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Speaker 3: only issue I've covered more than January sixth is what

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Speaker 3: the Whitmer fed napping hoax, and of course the two

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Speaker 3: appeals for the defendants who finally were convicted after the

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Speaker 3: second trial. Those appeals were filed last week and they're

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Speaker 3: very interesting. So I'd love to come back on and

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Speaker 3: talk about that. My book January sixth, you can purchase

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Speaker 3: on Amazon. Stack is declassified with Julie Kelly, and I'm

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Speaker 3: on Twitter a lot posting breaking news, new court motions,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. Julie underscore Kelly too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's been very enlightening talking to you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, things that I didn't know and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be honest, I've been afraid to talk about them,

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Speaker 2: so I'm glad that you were willing to come on

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Speaker 2: and chat about it with us.

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Speaker 1: We'll be watching these debates tonight.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have to have you back and analyze that too,

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Speaker 2: based on the behavior of these folks and what they

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Speaker 2: had to say about it. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: joining me on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, for

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