Speaker 1: I miss the green.
Speaker 2: For example, I'm already upset. When I find my ball
Speaker 2: in the bunker, I'm really upset. And when I find my.
Speaker 3: Ball in a fried egg Friday egg, the dreaded Friday egg,
Speaker 3: Frida egg, Frida egg, Frida egg bride egg.
Speaker 2: Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Friday Podcast. We've got Kyle, Nathan Draws and Fades is
Speaker 1: back for another mailbag.
Speaker 2: Kyle, what's happening?
Speaker 3: Not too much? What's happening with you? Why don't you
Speaker 3: tell us about uh being stranded on a tropical island?
Speaker 1: I mean you had to you had to evacuate too,
Speaker 1: So it's been a been a rough couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't, can't mess around with weather. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: congrats on the marriage, the nuptials.
Speaker 1: Yeah, married man new uh new era. So we uh.
Speaker 1: I think the storm missed our island by like one
Speaker 1: hundred miles or so, So it was a lot closer
Speaker 1: than I really knew. I looked one day like it
Speaker 1: started getting windy, and then I looked at the at
Speaker 1: the radar and saw that it was like just north
Speaker 1: of us. I was like, well, I'm glad I didn't
Speaker 1: know that it was even like that.
Speaker 3: Close, No need to panic.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then sure enough we were flying through Miami,
Speaker 1: so an American and uh yeah that that flight I
Speaker 1: guess still hasn't left now because of Maria hit Saint Lucia.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have to get a passport from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would have run out of money too, because if
Speaker 1: I had to keep staying paying the all inclusive rate,
Speaker 1: I would have been Uh, I would have been in trouble.
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 1: It was a good, good little reset and uh good
Speaker 1: to just chill out on a beach and I read
Speaker 1: a bunch. Yeah, And I mean we just drank and
Speaker 1: ate a lot too, So it was fun.
Speaker 3: That's right up my alley. That sounds fun.
Speaker 2: So what'd you do? How'd you would you tell us
Speaker 2: about evacuating?
Speaker 3: Well, you just went up to Birmingham and hung out there.
Speaker 3: I've been there before to play a couple of golf
Speaker 3: tournaments at the country called Birmingham, so I knew it
Speaker 3: was a nice place and it was fun to drive.
Speaker 2: Sucked.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like I was supposed to be a
Speaker 3: nine hour drive. It took us seventeen there, seventeen back.
Speaker 3: It was awful. But everything's all good down here, so
Speaker 3: can't be can't complain.
Speaker 1: Everybody, uh, everybody evacuating. It's like a it'd be like
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's like driving in Chicago rush hour
Speaker 1: traffic for nine hours.
Speaker 3: Well, dude, the craziest thing was the gas. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you needed gas, it was literally an hour wait.
Speaker 3: It was insane. I've never seen anything like it. And
Speaker 3: what scared me more is you saw cars with like
Speaker 3: four gas canisters like tied to the back of their
Speaker 3: car so they didn't have to stop them. Like if
Speaker 3: someone rearins them, that's going to be an explosion. Like
Speaker 3: it's just such a just scary gas situation.
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound very safe.
Speaker 3: No, it's not safe at all. But they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't want to wait an hour, so I'll just
Speaker 3: tape it to my license plate.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a very Florida thing to do.
Speaker 3: Oh so Florida, like seventy four dead as Florida man
Speaker 3: pours gasoline on his car. You did make it back
Speaker 3: for the BMW, though, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get back, I get back on Friday morning
Speaker 1: at a layover and in LaGuardia.
Speaker 2: What an awful, awful place that is, my fiance.
Speaker 1: We got there in the morning after we flew, we
Speaker 1: flew into JFK and I said to my fiance, I go,
Speaker 1: you know, this is.
Speaker 2: The worst airport in America. And she goes, why, I go,
Speaker 2: it's absolutely awful and you know, the people and it
Speaker 2: don't make it any better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, disgusting.
Speaker 1: At like five thirty in the morning, we waited an
Speaker 1: hour and a half for security and there was literally
Speaker 1: forty people in front of us, and we walked through
Speaker 1: and she goes, she goes, yeah, this is uh, this
Speaker 1: is definitely the worst airport in America.
Speaker 3: That's brutal.
Speaker 2: But BMW was good.
Speaker 1: I mean, the well it's always amazing. I think we
Speaker 1: talked about it in our group text. But hello, these
Speaker 1: guys shoot, of course, is like I've never thought Conway
Speaker 1: Farms is easy, and yet these guys shoot like sixty
Speaker 1: four in their sleep. The conditions were, I mean, it
Speaker 1: was pretty for the greens were really firm. I think
Speaker 1: the big thing is that there's just no you know,
Speaker 1: real they don't have to think out there and there's
Speaker 1: nothing you know that really puts that, you know, question
Speaker 1: in their head, and that's kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do to defend against these guys.
Speaker 3: It's insane to me. I've probably played Conway, I don't know,
Speaker 3: thirty to fifty times a lot, and I've never once
Speaker 3: walked off the course thinking it was even medium difficulty.
Speaker 3: I've always thought it's a tough course. You get through
Speaker 3: like four or five six, and you know there's stretches
Speaker 3: of holes where you're like, oh my god, just hold
Speaker 3: on for dear life, don't make double. And you play well,
Speaker 3: maybe you shoot sixty eight, sixty nine if you play
Speaker 3: a great round for me at least, and these guys
Speaker 3: shoot sixty two, like sixty three, and you know, if
Speaker 3: I play bad there it's seventy six in a hurry,
Speaker 3: you know, they're like, oh yeah, I played terrible, shot
Speaker 3: seventy Like It's just it's it's insane, especially like to
Speaker 3: see that on a golf course that I know and
Speaker 3: that I think is hard.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I was talking about it with a buddy of mine
Speaker 3: and he's like, it's basically just what just Jason Day
Speaker 3: did at Whistling. It's like you're right. I mean it's
Speaker 3: it's not as good as Day's performance. But it's crazy
Speaker 3: to put in perspective. These guys just annihilate these difficult courses.
Speaker 3: It's insane.
Speaker 2: I mean they just hit it so far and so.
Speaker 3: Straight is I mean far and Straight's good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when I drive the ball well, I shoot well,
Speaker 1: but that's like I shoot like sixty eights and sixty nine.
Speaker 1: But when these guys drive the ball, well, it's sixty three,
Speaker 1: sixty two, sixty four. And it's just crazy because you
Speaker 1: know it's what is seventy three hundred yards ish seventy
Speaker 1: four and seventy four hundred yards to these guys is
Speaker 1: driver wedge fest.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I never really, I've never thought of that.
Speaker 3: I thought there is a long course, let alone, you
Speaker 3: know medium. It's a long golf course to me, and
Speaker 3: I mean I hit it, what two seventy five. It's
Speaker 3: not like I hit it short. I mean I hit
Speaker 3: it short by their standards. But to me, that's a
Speaker 3: really long golf course, a lot of four irons, and
Speaker 3: they're just hitting you know, flip wedges.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a lot of guys. That's one of
Speaker 1: the things I think is happening. And you see it
Speaker 1: is with the ball in the way, how straight it goes?
Speaker 1: Now is you see the skilled guys, the guys that
Speaker 1: don't necessarily hit it that far but are just phenomenal
Speaker 1: with every other club in their bag. They're being phased
Speaker 1: out of professional golf, like who you know you used
Speaker 1: to have like Jim Fiurick, for example, and like Luke
Speaker 1: Donald was high in the rankings and.
Speaker 3: Recently number one in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, number one in the world. I mean you go
Speaker 1: back into the era like Nick Faldo is a perfect example,
Speaker 1: like I didn't hit it anywhere, but he had maximum.
Speaker 2: Control of his ball. He could hit it all the
Speaker 2: shots like he wouldn't exist.
Speaker 1: In today's game, Like if you don't hit a three
Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards or three hundred yards see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a shame, really is I
Speaker 3: think that it's it's you're eliminating, like you know, maybe
Speaker 3: sixty percent of the people that are good enough to
Speaker 3: be on tour or eliminated because of that, And I
Speaker 3: just I don't know how to combat it. I know,
Speaker 3: we have a question about the golf ball and all that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can only make a golf course so tight,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, what are you supposed to make
Speaker 3: it a bowling alley with obi left ob right or
Speaker 3: you know, water out of bounds. I'm not sure how
Speaker 3: to fix it except probably the golf ball. I mean,
Speaker 3: you you want to go play an eighty two hundred
Speaker 3: yard US Open, I mean that sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And the just the fact that, like it's not a
Speaker 1: sustainable model for a golf course. Like think about if
Speaker 1: you have a nine thousand yard course, watering like and
Speaker 1: maintenance of.
Speaker 3: It, and oh yeah, the expenses go up dramatic.
Speaker 1: And then that nine thousand yard course is used like
Speaker 1: once every ten years.
Speaker 2: Right, It's it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: It's I think the big thing is is that I
Speaker 1: don't think narrow is the answer though, Like I know
Speaker 1: I'm always banging.
Speaker 3: Yeah we're a big wif guy. But I know that's
Speaker 3: why I was thinking. That's the only answer to me
Speaker 3: besides the golf ball. And I know you're gonna hate that, but.
Speaker 1: Well here's my thought process is, like you could create
Speaker 1: a really wide course that could even be short and
Speaker 1: let long hitters try and drive greens all day, like
Speaker 1: it could be you could.
Speaker 2: Have a lot of three hundred and fifty yard part fours.
Speaker 1: But let the shorter guy because long players and short players,
Speaker 1: everybody's going to miss the fairway. You know what kills
Speaker 1: the short players is when they miss the fairway and
Speaker 1: they're hitting fore iron out of thick rough right, and
Speaker 1: long hitters are hitting wedge like you can hit a
Speaker 1: wedge out of thick rough. You can't hit four iron
Speaker 1: not a thick rough. And I think the width thing
Speaker 1: is interesting because what it does is it allows you know,
Speaker 1: the bombers are going to try and drive a lot
Speaker 1: of those greens and they're trying to up there, and
Speaker 1: you know, especially if it can be firm and fast,
Speaker 1: they'll get themselves in terrible spots where the shorter hitter
Speaker 1: can play to strength, they can play to angles and
Speaker 1: let their wedge game play, you know, right. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of my thought process. I think about like the
Speaker 1: Old Course, I mean, is a perfect example. You had
Speaker 1: Zach Johnson when that are and it's.
Speaker 2: The widest golf course in the world and it's all
Speaker 2: about angles. You don't ever.
Speaker 1: Really know what the exact right way to play a
Speaker 1: golf hole is, and depending on whatever the pin is
Speaker 1: it's dramatically different day to day.
Speaker 2: It's the same. You see the same at Augusta. It's
Speaker 2: a little bit less than it used to be. But
Speaker 2: those are two of the best championship golf courses ever.
Speaker 2: So if they're really wide, why to do people think
Speaker 2: we need to go narrow?
Speaker 3: Well, both of those courses, obviously St. Andrews is they're
Speaker 3: not as fast, but they both have really difficult green complexes,
Speaker 3: and that's always a defense that you know, we both
Speaker 3: played some sixty five sixty six hundred yard golf courses
Speaker 3: that can play really tough because because of the green complexes,
Speaker 3: and you know if you shortside yourself you have zero chance.
Speaker 3: And you know that those those golf courses are fun.
Speaker 3: But and you know you could do that on tour
Speaker 3: where you have the greens running twelve and a half
Speaker 3: thirteen and a half and they're super undulating and tough
Speaker 3: to putt. But you can't do that for the everyday golfer.
Speaker 1: No, no, I agree, but that every day golfer isn't
Speaker 1: having the problems of shooting sixty three at seventy four
Speaker 1: golf course. In having an entire style of golf be
Speaker 1: essentially extinct from the game.
Speaker 2: Let's get it.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess what do you think about kind of
Speaker 1: the FedEx playoffs?
Speaker 2: While we're on the topic, do you do you think
Speaker 2: it works? Obviously, football just kills it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like a huge golf fan, and if
Speaker 1: I was in the country, I'd probably watch a lot
Speaker 1: of football. I'd be flipping back and forth, like golf
Speaker 1: wouldn't have my full equity.
Speaker 3: It's just even if it was later in the season.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm the same way I watched all football
Speaker 3: the last last weekend, you know, obviously flipping back a
Speaker 3: little bit, but I just it's the time that you know,
Speaker 3: football is just starting. You're all excited. You know, the
Speaker 3: Bears haven't don't have seven losses yet, so I'm trying
Speaker 3: to watch that game and red zone they should for that,
Speaker 3: I agree they should, but you know, I you know,
Speaker 3: flipping back and with the with the red zone channel nowadays,
Speaker 3: it's just it's the timing. I think if you put
Speaker 3: it in you know, not that they would, but if
Speaker 3: you put it, you know, more towards the middle, excuse me,
Speaker 3: more towards the middle of the season, you'd get a
Speaker 3: little more interest in it. I just the timing is terrible.
Speaker 3: The formats okay, I mean it's it is what it is.
Speaker 3: I don't think the format is terrible. You know, we've
Speaker 3: talked about the other podcasts. We like formats better, but
Speaker 3: you know it's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I like the idea of doing a
Speaker 1: match play thing, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the problem is like ratings and like having two guys
Speaker 1: on the golf course on Sunday of the season finale,
Speaker 1: Like that's not going to work. I see a lot
Speaker 1: of people throw out the idea of that. I think
Speaker 1: obviously moving before football will help a lot, because it's
Speaker 1: like at the dull drums of sports.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the.
Speaker 1: Day, I just don't think anybody, even the players, really care.
Speaker 1: Like the top players don't really even care about the
Speaker 1: FedEx Cup because like it's ten million dollars, that's great,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, your your legacy is a player
Speaker 1: is why people care so much about the majors.
Speaker 2: And they.
Speaker 1: Like nobody's going to be like, oh, he was a
Speaker 1: two time FedEx Cup champion.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, totally. I mean in other sports it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: what has this guy done in the playoffs. You know, Kershaw,
Speaker 3: his legacy's tarnish because he hasn't played well in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But you look at golf, you're like, what you know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know the results from last year, and
Speaker 3: I probably watched him, but I can tell you who
Speaker 3: won all the majors last year. So the majors are
Speaker 3: Golf's playoffs. This is some kind of I don't know,
Speaker 3: money grab, but it is something I guess. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan of it. I wish they
Speaker 3: would do something else, but they probably won't. I'm sure
Speaker 3: they should. They'll stick with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that billion dollar check from FedEx is
Speaker 1: gonna make him ride out this playoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: It's the other thing I saw when I was researching
Speaker 1: for the newsletters.
Speaker 2: I didn't I mean, I just I.
Speaker 1: Didn't remember it. I guess that's part of the problem.
Speaker 1: But I forgot that. The so you could win every
Speaker 1: single tournament you played in for a year, and you
Speaker 1: could get to the FedEx Cup finals and they diminish
Speaker 1: your points to a set amount as number one m HM.
Speaker 1: So it really doesn't matter. Like Jordan Speed, like the
Speaker 1: fact that like that Jordan Spied could win the first
Speaker 1: three events of the playoffs he didn't and then not
Speaker 1: win the whole FedEx Cup to me is just completely idiotic.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. It's it's literally just I mean it's that's so,
Speaker 3: that's because they want the five guys to have a chance, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody in the field to have a chance.
Speaker 3: That's because it doesn't matter. I mean, that's there's nothing.
Speaker 3: I mean, if it was something so significant that all
Speaker 3: these guys you know, cared so deeply about that, that
Speaker 3: wouldn't exist. I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing is is like, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: condense all of golf. Like I don't know how you
Speaker 1: think about golf, but I always look at players, like
Speaker 1: even at our level, I look at players that are
Speaker 1: more consistent than me, that always finished top five, and
Speaker 1: I think, God, they're so consistent. They win a couple
Speaker 1: of times, they finished top five all the time, Like
Speaker 1: that's what I want to be.
Speaker 2: Like, trying to condense.
Speaker 1: Golf down into one week or a four week stretch,
Speaker 1: to me is kind of not what the game's all about.
Speaker 1: Like Tiger always said, he's chasing consistency. That's The number
Speaker 1: one thing he's always looking forward is to become more consistent.
Speaker 1: And you're trying to condense a season long thing into
Speaker 1: four weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that. I you know, the difference between
Speaker 3: winning in third place at that level maybe a couple
Speaker 3: of lipouts, you know, or you hit a tree and
Speaker 3: it kicks in the fairway, or you hit a tree
Speaker 3: and it kicks behind a tree. You know, That's that's
Speaker 3: the difference. So I'm with you. Condencing it to one
Speaker 3: week or even four is not great.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get Let's get into the questions David Horlander.
Speaker 1: If you had to move to BMW to another Chicago
Speaker 1: area course, which one and why?
Speaker 3: A couple came to mind. The first one that came
Speaker 3: to mind is right down the road from Conway is Knowlwold.
Speaker 3: It came to mind because I played the mid Am
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve at Conway and Nowood was the sister course.
Speaker 3: And Nowood not only is it a great golf course,
Speaker 3: but the stroke average was i want to say, almost
Speaker 3: two strokes higher. The rough was a little overgrown, but
Speaker 3: I mean that golf course can be tough. It's a
Speaker 3: huge piece of property. I mean, there's no doubt it
Speaker 3: hosted the Western a couple of years ago, but there's
Speaker 3: no doubt it could host it. So I would probably
Speaker 3: say that's my first choice. Obviously there's others, but Nolwood
Speaker 3: would be ideal.
Speaker 2: I love Nolwood.
Speaker 1: I grew up working there at Caddied and back room,
Speaker 1: did there for like ten years.
Speaker 2: I love that place.
Speaker 1: The one concern I would have there is just infrastructure,
Speaker 1: right getting like big grand stands and The's That's the
Speaker 1: thing I think I've realized the more I've covered golf
Speaker 1: and going to these events, is like there's so few
Speaker 1: good sites available because of all the infrastructure you need
Speaker 1: with the grand stand, the length of the golf course
Speaker 1: you need nowadays, and like the type of golf course
Speaker 1: like where.
Speaker 2: So many are are not available to it.
Speaker 1: So like my con So the other thing with Chicago,
Speaker 1: the interesting dynamic with it is is they saw it at.
Speaker 2: The US helping.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have a championship on the South
Speaker 1: side because there just aren't a lot.
Speaker 2: There's not a big concentration of golfers.
Speaker 1: The north and the West side are the are like
Speaker 1: the north and west suburbs are the places where you're
Speaker 1: going to find the most golfers, and if you have
Speaker 1: it down like Olympia Fields would be a great host.
Speaker 1: But for somebody from the North Side, it's going to
Speaker 1: take an hour plus to get down there, and they
Speaker 1: just frankly aren't going to go travel down there to play.
Speaker 1: So I would look at obviously Medina is the next host.
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a good host because you
Speaker 1: know the property, the infrastructure, like, I mean, that place
Speaker 1: can host a championship easily and has all the parking,
Speaker 1: it's easy to get to, and it's a it's a
Speaker 1: big property.
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about the course, it's it's very Reese jonety.
Speaker 1: But if if that place got restored, it would be
Speaker 1: or redone by like Bill kre Ben Crenshaw or somebody
Speaker 1: like that, that place would be a top ten championship
Speaker 1: course in the in the country. Another one that I
Speaker 1: obviously it's the top of the list on everything with
Speaker 1: Chicago's Chicago Golf Club, I mean, they've got plenty of space.
Speaker 1: They could actually host one of these championships, but that
Speaker 1: would never never happen because they'd have to give up
Speaker 1: their course for a week. But they have the space
Speaker 1: and for the infrastructure needs and that would just be awesome.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think Conways is a good
Speaker 1: host because of where it's located. It's got the space
Speaker 1: for the infrastructure, and uh, I think I think the
Speaker 1: golf course has a ton of potential to get better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am with you. All right, Let's go to
Speaker 3: the next question from Nate Maori. Nate, what do you
Speaker 3: think about the web Tour schedule criss crossing the nation?
Speaker 3: Shouldn't they think about the money implications on players and caddies.
Speaker 1: Well, to say the least, the Web Tour scheduling is
Speaker 1: it is a complete dumpster fire. They started the season
Speaker 1: going to the Bahamas and then they took a week
Speaker 1: off and then went back to the Bahamas. So you know,
Speaker 1: like that just from right off, the right off the
Speaker 1: start of the season, terrible scheduling with like any kind
Speaker 1: of thought to their players and caddies, Like they had
Speaker 1: to buy two flight, two round trip tickets to the
Speaker 1: Hamas as opposed to just one. These guys are playing
Speaker 1: for so little Monaymian. You finish in fortieth place on
Speaker 1: the Web Tour and you make like twenty six hundred
Speaker 1: dollars and that doesn't even cover your travel for the
Speaker 1: week and for the caddy that's like so you get
Speaker 1: ten percent, that's two hundred and sixty dollars plus you're
Speaker 1: like one thousand dollars a week fee. So yeah, they
Speaker 1: the Web Tour, I know that are in a tough
Speaker 1: spot with sponsors, but I just don't think the tour
Speaker 1: does enough to promote how good the golf is. I
Speaker 1: think last year, between the WEB graduates and the finals participants,
Speaker 1: you had nine PGA Tour winners on the season, So like,
Speaker 1: how how is this.
Speaker 2: Golf not being celebrated?
Speaker 1: Like you go watch a WEB event and it's just
Speaker 1: as good at golf, as very close to as good
Speaker 1: of golf as the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2: The names just aren't recognizable.
Speaker 3: So more fun to it ten too. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: much more intimate than you know, standing six people back,
Speaker 3: you can you know, walk right along with whoever you
Speaker 3: want really usually mm hmm exactly.
Speaker 2: And I mean the crazy thing I think is the misconception.
Speaker 1: On the Web is that it's a young tour and
Speaker 1: it's actually turning into more of an older tour because
Speaker 1: you get there's so many young guys on the PGA
Speaker 1: Tour that you have all these like older guys that
Speaker 1: should still be on the PGA Tour, like if it
Speaker 1: was fifteen years ago, but now they're stuck playing down
Speaker 1: there because there's just no spots form.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I obviously the reason it is the
Speaker 3: way it is, I think is it's hard to get
Speaker 3: good golf courses, to give up your golf, to give
Speaker 3: up your days for a tour event, let alone a
Speaker 3: web dot com. So I think that they try to
Speaker 3: mix and match the best they can, but I am
Speaker 3: in agreement with you that they can. They can absolutely
Speaker 3: do better, because it's not it's not fair to these
Speaker 3: guys at all. I mean not one bit. They wouldn't
Speaker 3: ask the tour guys to do the same thing. I
Speaker 3: don't even think because they would, you know, bitch about it.
Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, it's not good. It's I couldn't imagine
Speaker 1: being a caddy on the Web Tour. It would just
Speaker 1: be I mean, I don't know how those guys afford
Speaker 1: to live. Jay Rigdon overrated, underrated nine hole golf courses.
Speaker 3: I love nine hole golf courses. I grew up, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say underrated. I grew up playing the Wineka par three.
Speaker 3: Probably my first fifty rounds of golfer at the Winneka
Speaker 3: par three, So I love it. There's some really cool
Speaker 3: par threes. Uh, you know, there's one in Jupiter down here,
Speaker 3: there's one in Palm Beach that's awesome. The one in
Speaker 3: Palm Beach literally is better than most of the regular
Speaker 3: golf courses around here. It's just it's they're a lot
Speaker 3: of fun, and you know, you get obviously Pine Valley
Speaker 3: and Olympic they all have really cool part three courses too.
Speaker 3: But I I mean, I would almost prefer to play
Speaker 3: a par three course than an eighteen whole course is
Speaker 3: just a little more fun and it's not such a
Speaker 3: time commitment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love nine hole courses because I like the
Speaker 1: idea of just playing nine holes, Like mm hmm, you
Speaker 1: don't always.
Speaker 2: Have time for eighteen.
Speaker 1: I think that we need more nine I'd love to
Speaker 1: see a four hole course because, like I think golf
Speaker 1: needs to try and compete with people's workouts, you know,
Speaker 1: and people always find an hour to work out, Like,
Speaker 1: how come we can't create four hole courses that are
Speaker 1: really interesting and.
Speaker 2: Fun where people can go play four holes.
Speaker 1: And it takes an hour on their way home from
Speaker 1: work as opposed to two hours for nine or four
Speaker 1: hours for eighteen. I think you'd see a lot more
Speaker 1: people playing golf more often.
Speaker 3: I feel like people have talked about that for a
Speaker 3: few years now, and I can't believe it hasn't really
Speaker 3: come to fruition, because it's that's an answer, you know,
Speaker 3: all these what's happened to golf? How do we get
Speaker 3: younger people? Blah blah blah. I mean, that's a complete answer,
Speaker 3: and nobody's really kind of taking the ball and run
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 1: It's one of my One of the most fun golf
Speaker 1: experiences I've had this year was my buddy's bachelor party
Speaker 1: and in Portland and he, you know, we were I
Speaker 1: was with like a bunch of non golfers. Like one
Speaker 1: guy hadn't played golf in fourteen years and he's like six'
Speaker 1: five And serbian and he hadn't played he'd only played
Speaker 1: once in his.
Speaker 2: Life he was, terrible but he had a great time we.
Speaker 1: Played this place is called like Mcmanamon's pub, course and
Speaker 1: they have a twenty hole par three course and a
Speaker 1: twelve hole par three. Course the clubhouse is a bar
Speaker 1: and you go there and you rent your clubs for
Speaker 1: like a. Dollar it's a you get a, wedge a,
Speaker 1: putter and one ball for a dollar and then you
Speaker 1: go play and every hole is less than seventy yards
Speaker 1: and it goes like uphill.
Speaker 2: Downhill the greens are. Tiny like it was actually like really.
Speaker 3: Hard that's, fun so.
Speaker 2: Fun but it was it for you, know like the.
Speaker 1: Beginners they could they could literally hit a putter to the,
Speaker 1: green you, know if they wanted to do they could
Speaker 1: just put it because it was like straight up hill,
Speaker 1: downhill so you could like on the downhill ones they
Speaker 1: could just put.
Speaker 2: It it was really.
Speaker 1: Cool it, was but like more places like, THAT i
Speaker 1: mean that it had more of a top golf style
Speaker 1: feel in terms of like the, atmosphere but it was
Speaker 1: more golf than top.
Speaker 2: Golf.
Speaker 3: Cool i'm all about.
Speaker 2: That Philip johnson, overrated Underrated madina.
Speaker 3: Three oh, Boy i'm probably gonna piss off some friends,
Speaker 3: here But i'm gonna say way. Overrated we've talked about this,
Speaker 3: before you, know with some buddies on our, thread AND
Speaker 3: i think THAT i would be IF i made the
Speaker 3: list of the top golf courses In, CHICAGO i would
Speaker 3: be surprised IF i Put madonna number three in the top.
Speaker 3: THIRTY i JUST i it's, long it's perfect for a tour.
Speaker 3: EVENT i, mean it's, long it's, hard it's. BIG i
Speaker 3: enjoy playing. IT I i just to, me it's. NOT i,
Speaker 3: mean it's just it's a little, boring the you, know the.
Speaker 3: Whole some of the holes kind of seem. Similar obviously
Speaker 3: there's some really good. Holes And i'm probably underselling it
Speaker 3: just because it is so. Overrated BUT i Just i've
Speaker 3: never been a fan of, it to be, Honest so
Speaker 3: just one man's opinion.
Speaker 2: In terms of, rankings it's way.
Speaker 1: Overrated in terms of like public, APPEAL i feel like
Speaker 1: The internet has been so like The internet era has
Speaker 1: ruined my. Medina like people see it and they just you,
Speaker 1: know AND i see pictures like that's like when people
Speaker 1: can start freely communicating about courses like across the internet With,
Speaker 1: twitter like it's it's ruined courses like my, Media like
Speaker 1: Baltist ral got the bad treatment, Too but, LIKE i,
Speaker 1: mean the design so, Flawed LIKE i Mean Rees jones
Speaker 1: puts like bunkers on outside of the dog lakes all day.
Speaker 2: Long out. There there's too many.
Speaker 1: Trees the greens are all reached out with all these
Speaker 1: segments and all this. Stuff but LIKE i go back
Speaker 1: to the land and the land is so frickin good
Speaker 1: that it's like almost like impossible to build a really
Speaker 1: bad golf course. There like it's still it's a mediocre
Speaker 1: golf course right, now but the land is so good
Speaker 1: that it could be.
Speaker 2: SPECTACULAR i say, underrated because if you.
Speaker 1: Actually renovated it and got a very good architect in
Speaker 1: there that was you, know that knew how to build
Speaker 1: strategic golf holes like that place would be it might
Speaker 1: be top three or four In.
Speaker 3: Chicago, yeah trees is a major issue out. There there's
Speaker 3: probably twelve times too many trees as there should.
Speaker 1: Be, yeah they got out rid of all the all
Speaker 1: the wrong trees and kept like those Big they have
Speaker 1: so many big oaks that are just awesome trees THAT i.
Speaker 3: Mean it Was sergiore is a good? Tree on is
Speaker 3: it really?
Speaker 1: Well reese redid the, hole oh right down the tree
Speaker 1: and he raised that.
Speaker 2: Green that green is still freaking high up.
Speaker 3: There when did he do? That i'm trying to think
Speaker 3: WHEN i played there maybe two years ago that was gone.
Speaker 1: Then so there's a tree that looks like you can
Speaker 1: go there and look at the tree and you think
Speaker 1: that's the, tree but.
Speaker 2: It's not actually the, tree fake. Tree it was.
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i busted a drive there the other day AND
Speaker 1: i THINK i was right by Where sergio hit his,
Speaker 1: tree which is kind of, amazing given like the technology
Speaker 1: advances since that the, championship like how far it used
Speaker 1: to hit the ball In.
Speaker 2: Tiger so, yeah THAT i Think.
Speaker 1: MADINA i think madna is is just beaten up so
Speaker 1: much that it might actually be. Underrated And i'm one
Speaker 1: of the people that beat it.
Speaker 3: Up it sounds like a good answer for the. People all,
Speaker 3: right let's Go Nate mauri over Under Wesley.
Speaker 2: Bryant last last questions From. Nate that's a good, one
Speaker 2: fired him.
Speaker 3: Off, yeah over Under Wesley bryant's ninety minute round of sixty,
Speaker 3: nine which was.
Speaker 2: Nice it is. NICE i.
Speaker 1: Think it's overrated, though just because of what, again what
Speaker 1: the internet does to things like.
Speaker 3: This i'm cool with that, answer all. Right how about
Speaker 3: another one From? Nate what are the three worst best
Speaker 3: courses on? Tour which courses would you substitute?
Speaker 2: In three best would be probably.
Speaker 1: Let's, SEE i mean Like ironomic next, year it's got
Speaker 1: to be in.
Speaker 3: There ironomic is so.
Speaker 2: Good riviera every single year has to be one of.
Speaker 1: Those and THEN i would probably, say, Well, Trinity i'm
Speaker 1: gonna be really interested to See Trinity forrest In dallas next.
Speaker 2: Year new.
Speaker 1: HOST i don't know Who i'd say for the Third
Speaker 1: i'd PROBABLY i Mean Pebble, beach but they don't do
Speaker 1: the full, hosting you, know, Right i'd still Say Pebble.
Speaker 2: Beach what do you.
Speaker 3: THINK i can't Leave pebble off. There And ironomic is
Speaker 3: one of the best Courses i've ever. Played that course
Speaker 3: is amazing and it's gotten.
Speaker 2: BETTER i think we.
Speaker 3: Did a trip there and we Played Pine valley the
Speaker 3: day after we Played. Ironomic and not to say That
Speaker 3: ironomic was better Than Pine, valley but we were, like,
Speaker 3: wow those. Courses they're not they're not similar by any,
Speaker 3: means but in terms of how we rated, them we're, Like,
Speaker 3: wow this courses are not very far. Off we had
Speaker 3: no idea anything About. Ironomic we got to.
Speaker 2: Do a trip To philly before.
Speaker 1: THAT bmw next, year get a get a Little ironomic
Speaker 1: in AND i, mean.
Speaker 2: There's so many good golf courses in.
Speaker 3: Phil so many it's.
Speaker 1: Crazy, ACTUALLY i spent two weeks there last year AND
Speaker 1: i feel LIKE i just scratched the.
Speaker 3: SURFACE i haven't Played mary And i'd love. To one
Speaker 3: are the worst, courses the worst.
Speaker 1: Courses this one that jumps to the top of my
Speaker 1: mind THAT i kind of lit up this this year
Speaker 1: Is Glenn. ABBEY i, mean it's hardly one of the
Speaker 1: best one hundred golf courses in all Of. CANADA i
Speaker 1: don't think it would, be and you look at, it
Speaker 1: it's kind of it favors the long hitter tremendously out.
Speaker 2: There if you don't, vomit you have no. Chance and.
Speaker 1: You, know you look at what just happened to The Canadian.
Speaker 1: OPEN i mean it used to be a, major major,
Speaker 1: event AND i Mean Jack, nicholas it was one of
Speaker 1: his Like musco tos every. Year and what's happened to
Speaker 1: it is it has become like a bottom tier event
Speaker 1: since you, know the slide started when they started going
Speaker 1: To Glenn. ABBEY i think you look at good golf
Speaker 1: courses usually promote good fields Like. Riviera Obviously la has
Speaker 1: a part of, that but it has the best non,
Speaker 1: major NON wgc field year and year, out and it's
Speaker 1: the best golf. Course so that's a quick fix for
Speaker 1: The Canadian. Open AND i know everybody will say they
Speaker 1: don't make any money if they go somewhere, Else but
Speaker 1: it's not like a you can't just like go somewhere
Speaker 1: good one year and have all of your problems. Fixed
Speaker 1: if you continually play good, courses it'll get.
Speaker 2: Fixed.
Speaker 1: FIRESTONE i Hate. FIRESTONE i know good players win.
Speaker 2: There but it just it's.
Speaker 1: Thoughtless it's you, know hit it straight and hit it,
Speaker 1: close like there's a never.
Speaker 2: Any like in what holes can you remember At?
Speaker 1: Firestone like you remember them Because tiger played eighteen in
Speaker 1: the dark and you remember, Sixteen but could you tell
Speaker 1: me what hole seven At firestone? Is and they've been
Speaker 1: playing there for how many years? Straight and it's a
Speaker 1: big time. Event and THEN i gotta go with The
Speaker 1: jones family. Legacy here THE Rtj trail For barbasol all.
Speaker 3: Over The joneses. Today, yeah tough.
Speaker 2: Day for The.
Speaker 1: Jones BUT i would Say i'd say that just because
Speaker 1: like why are they playing In alabama In? August like
Speaker 1: the course rally isn't is, Okay but the fact that
Speaker 1: you're playing a golf tournament In alabama In august is
Speaker 1: asking for many rain delays and like extremely soft conditions
Speaker 1: and players just like with tons of swamp.
Speaker 2: Ass the one.
Speaker 3: Course you're leaving off that list IS tpc At. Scottsdale
Speaker 3: that course is. AWFUL i you, KNOW i Maybe i'm
Speaker 3: salty because it's like a few hundred bucks to play
Speaker 3: and you get out there and like the first fourteen,
Speaker 3: Holes you're, like what the hell is? This LIKE i
Speaker 3: could have just you, know played the hotel course or
Speaker 3: any course you know In. Arizona that's literally so. BORING
Speaker 3: I i the fifteen through eighteen are, cool BUT i
Speaker 3: think you're so bitter that you've played the first fourteen
Speaker 3: holes by the time you get to, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
Speaker 3: eighteen you don't get to enjoy.
Speaker 1: IT i got a lot of heat even from one
Speaker 1: of our our, friends The Angry, golfer WHEN i said
Speaker 1: That SCOTTSDALE Tpc scottsdale is a below average course in
Speaker 1: a city full of average golf.
Speaker 3: Courses, YEAH i think you're you're painting that in a positive.
Speaker 3: PICTURE i think you, said Like scottsdale is one of
Speaker 3: the worst golf cities in the, country and then said
Speaker 3: Like memphis was.
Speaker 2: BETTER i didn't Say, memphis you.
Speaker 3: Didn't but your argument About scottsdale was. Good but excuse
Speaker 3: me ABOUT tpc At. Scottsdale BUT i do think there's
Speaker 3: some awesome golf courses in The scottsdale. AREA i need to.
Speaker 3: Go it just might be a little overrated because there's
Speaker 3: so many and people are, like, Oh scottsdale Golf. Mecca
Speaker 3: it's definitely not, that but it's not. TERRIBLE i don't THINK.
Speaker 2: I always judge golf cities like.
Speaker 1: How many courses would you fly there to? Play and,
Speaker 1: like from What i've, BEEN i haven't.
Speaker 2: Played enough golf In. SCOTTSIALE i have to go this.
Speaker 2: WINTER i think that's.
Speaker 3: Something have you played desert for?
Speaker 1: Us?
Speaker 3: No so that course is, Amazing but that's a northern golf.
Speaker 3: Course that's it's it's just kind of place in the,
Speaker 3: desert but it is a north it's kind of a
Speaker 3: northern field to. It but they had some really good golf.
Speaker 1: Courses Whisper rock is like a cool experience more so
Speaker 1: than being a great golf.
Speaker 3: Course oh. TOTALLY I i would give the golf course
Speaker 3: like a. FIVE i don't even really remember many of
Speaker 3: the holes. There BUT i remember the milkshakes and the
Speaker 3: hanging out inside watch AND i think it WAS ncaa
Speaker 3: tournament last time we were. There that was a, Blast
Speaker 3: but the golf course was kind of.
Speaker 2: Eh SO i.
Speaker 1: Always judge it on like where in the city WOULD
Speaker 1: i like you call me up and, say, Hey i'm playing?
Speaker 1: Here like where WOULD i hop on a plane no
Speaker 1: question to ask to go? Play and you, Know chicago
Speaker 1: Has Chicago golf for, akers Like columbus Has Mirfield.
Speaker 2: Village i'd probably.
Speaker 1: Get in a car to Drive, Seota and but like
Speaker 1: the golf, club i'd get you, know get in a
Speaker 1: plane and go fly their. Play Like San francisco Has
Speaker 1: San Francisco Golf. Club you know they, Have i'd probably
Speaker 1: go Play Cal. Club also The Olympic club, Obviously so
Speaker 1: like these, CITIES la has three, Courses i'd get a
Speaker 1: get on a plane to go. Play Like that's my
Speaker 1: point is like there isn't one In scottsdale Where i'd be, like,
Speaker 1: yeah you know, What i'll drop.
Speaker 2: Everything and go.
Speaker 1: Play, PENNSYLVANIA i mean Like, Philly pittsburgh Has New, York,
Speaker 1: Boston i'll have.
Speaker 3: Them, NO i MEAN i think MY i agree with
Speaker 3: you that it's not very top have, you but it's
Speaker 3: a little deeper.
Speaker 2: Here here's a good question From Joe. Ess best betting
Speaker 2: game with play a varying skill?
Speaker 3: LEVEL i would say the banker game would be the
Speaker 3: best because you can you can do it with guys
Speaker 3: who are twenty handicaps plus, fives and you can. Win you,
Speaker 3: know you can bet as much as you want or
Speaker 3: as little as we. Want brief. Synopsis so you go
Speaker 3: to a, hole Say i'm the guy that hold the
Speaker 3: first putt with the lowest. Score is the banker on
Speaker 3: the next, Hole so Say i'm the. BANKER i, say,
Speaker 3: okay this soul's worth forty bucks and, maximum and you're
Speaker 3: you and me are playing straight, up and you, say,
Speaker 3: Okay i'll take all forty of. It and then our
Speaker 3: buddies getting you, know eight, shots and he gets a
Speaker 3: shot or you want twenty of, it, say and my
Speaker 3: buddy's getting a shot off. Me he wants all. Forty
Speaker 3: and then you, know one of our other buddies is
Speaker 3: just tagging along for, fun and he just, says, Okay
Speaker 3: i'll just play it for. Ten and then you just
Speaker 3: play the whole individual me against you and me against
Speaker 3: the other, guy and me against the other. Guy that's
Speaker 3: kind of a brief. Synopsis but it's good for all
Speaker 3: levels of betting and all skill.
Speaker 2: Levels you.
Speaker 1: Know WHAT i really like about that game is if
Speaker 1: you play, well you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Win m.
Speaker 1: Hm like it's very, simple like if you play if
Speaker 1: you shoot sixty, eight you're gonna. Win you, know if
Speaker 1: you play a great, round if you're a if you're
Speaker 1: a twelve handicap and shoot, eighty you're gonna. Win like,
Speaker 1: Right it's not going to be where like one, hole
Speaker 1: like can just railroad you and you, could you, know
Speaker 1: you make your only bogie on a hole and somebody
Speaker 1: else makes an eagle and you lose five hundred points
Speaker 1: and it's just.
Speaker 2: Like, WELL i just you.
Speaker 1: Know so that's one THING i love about that. GAME
Speaker 1: i think it's good for different skill. Levels we played
Speaker 1: it with a not that vast but a pretty Vast.
Speaker 3: Yeah we played it with a good group of, guys diverse. Handicaps,
Speaker 3: YEAH i would agree with.
Speaker 2: THAT i Think, BANKER i Think wolf is decent. IT
Speaker 2: i think it Obviously Scotch in Like, vegas skew to
Speaker 2: the better.
Speaker 3: Player, yeah that game is all about, PROCs so you
Speaker 3: don't want to get in that game with you, know
Speaker 3: if you're a high, handicapper you, can't you. Can't you
Speaker 3: don't want to get in that game with low.
Speaker 1: Handicappers and it's, LIKE i think the TRADITIONAL nasa like
Speaker 1: actually skews like a match Play nasha skews to the
Speaker 1: higher handicap having an advantage because totally because as a lower,
Speaker 1: handicap your, variant it's, like you, know you don't make
Speaker 1: as many you don't make many doubles or, triples and
Speaker 1: a fifteen handicap can make nine, pars but he could
Speaker 1: make you, know three, triples and those three triples you
Speaker 1: can make birdie and you know you pick up twelve
Speaker 1: shots on those three, holes but you really only win three.
Speaker 3: Holes so, yeah it's a story for a different. Day
Speaker 3: But i've always felt like member guests and you, know
Speaker 3: stuff like, that where it's usually best ball match, play
Speaker 3: it should not be even close to one hundred, percent
Speaker 3: probably not even eighty percent your. Handicamp it should be like.
Speaker 2: Sixty but, YEAH i think like sixty or fifty it should.
Speaker 1: Be but that's both of us have an extremely biased
Speaker 1: perspective on the.
Speaker 2: Subject So. Philip why Did leishman get two.
Speaker 1: Trophies that's because there's A bmw trophy and A Western open.
Speaker 1: Trophy so, like you, know THE wga runs The Western
Speaker 1: western m and it became THE, bmw or The Western
Speaker 1: open and became THE, bmw and you, know The Western
Speaker 1: open was one of the most historic.
Speaker 2: Events it's kind of a, shame, ACTUALLY i. Uh but
Speaker 2: the better question here is. Overrated Underrated guys who play
Speaker 2: with no.
Speaker 3: HATS i think overrated because you're probably not that intelligent
Speaker 3: because with you, know, melanoma and you spend so much
Speaker 3: time on the you, know in the, sun not wearing
Speaker 3: a hat is extremely dangerous and you're just not not
Speaker 3: intelligent if. YOU i, mean if it's one, thing if
Speaker 3: it's like once every two, weeks but once every three,
Speaker 3: weeks it's still not. Good but if you're out there
Speaker 3: regularly playing golf without a, hat you gotta you gotta fix.
Speaker 3: That you gotta figure it.
Speaker 2: Out sounds like you should get in with the big safari.
Speaker 3: HAT i should the long sleeve. SHIRT i probably will.
Speaker 3: BE i think that's what people do In florida after
Speaker 3: they've been here for like ten. Years i'll be wearing
Speaker 3: like long underwear and on my. Legs i'm on my,
Speaker 3: Face i'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna go underrated on the no Hat and it's just
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i admire them not selling out and earning the
Speaker 1: extra whatever couple hundred thousand or you, know if it
Speaker 1: if it's a high profile player millions of dollars from
Speaker 1: a sponsor by.
Speaker 2: Foregoing the number one spot on the.
Speaker 3: Golfer all, right how About BLAKE j wants to know
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the New Dana Fry corse At Arcadia.
Speaker 2: Buffs, WELL i haven't seen it, yet so hard to
Speaker 2: say what my thoughts.
Speaker 1: ARE i like the idea of getting golfers more exposed
Speaker 1: to the kind Of rainer McDonald's style of golf in
Speaker 1: a public.
Speaker 2: Setting there just aren't many of. Them it'll be interesting
Speaker 2: to see how it's.
Speaker 1: EXECUTED i think the tough thing with doing that style
Speaker 1: of golf is Where rainer was really great was like
Speaker 1: in these small little. Intricacies you, know it's like these
Speaker 1: small little internal contours and greens where if you miss the,
Speaker 1: green you, know if you're pin high, right not only
Speaker 1: do you have slope right to, left but there's usually
Speaker 1: these little tiny spines that you have to put over
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden make speed control. IMPOSSIBLE i
Speaker 1: think that is the genius Of. Rayner that will be
Speaker 1: very difficult.
Speaker 2: To, match But i'm excited to see. IT i Am.
Speaker 1: Dave, westler WHO i had on the pod did a
Speaker 1: great job doing a course in a similar manner from
Speaker 1: like a nothing muni In Mount prospect where you have
Speaker 1: these wild template, greens and you know there's something that he.
Speaker 1: Faced there was backlash from the public because they just
Speaker 1: they didn't understand. It so a lot of people, think
Speaker 1: like these are goofy, greens but these Are the whole
Speaker 1: premise was like build a court a public course In
Speaker 1: chicago where you can see the architecture you see at
Speaker 1: Short akers In chicago golf the two best golf courses
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: City and that leads us, sorry go, ahead, no, no go.
Speaker 3: Ahead that leads us to the question here About Remount
Speaker 3: Prospect Golf club Versus. Rabislow what are your top five
Speaker 3: public courses In chicago considering the quality of, course, cost
Speaker 3: distance from the, city et.
Speaker 1: Cetera so if you if you do the, COST i
Speaker 1: think this is the only way you can really judge
Speaker 1: like golf and cities is when you do quality of,
Speaker 1: course condition and the, costs because you, know if you
Speaker 1: play a, course if you want a course this great,
Speaker 1: condition like you can tell.
Speaker 2: Hey if you want great, conditioning you should.
Speaker 1: Go play the Gun. Club BUT i don't think it's
Speaker 1: anywhere near the best public golf course in the. City
Speaker 1: WHAT i would say, Is i'd probably Go ravislow is
Speaker 1: my favorite.
Speaker 2: Place to go. Play it's like A Donald ross.
Speaker 1: Course great. Greens unfortunately they can't keep the. Greens this
Speaker 1: is the other problem with public golf, is like those old,
Speaker 1: greens they can't keep fast in a public setting because
Speaker 1: the rounds would just take too. Long guys would be
Speaker 1: putting balls off the green all. Day whereas a country
Speaker 1: club you could do that because people are more used
Speaker 1: to the green. Speed So i'd Say rabbits slow is
Speaker 1: my number. One i'd Go Mount, prospect all. Right i'd
Speaker 1: go Probably Shepherd's crook number. Two it's way up In
Speaker 1: zion so as, far but that's an awesome golf. Course
Speaker 1: there's no, range it's built on a, landfill so it
Speaker 1: can kind of smell, sometimes but it's a really good golf.
Speaker 2: Course and then i'd GO.
Speaker 1: I go number, Three mount prospect number Four highlands Of,
Speaker 1: elgin AND i don't know what my number five would.
Speaker 2: Be what about. YOU i like that.
Speaker 3: List i'd probably Put Pine meadow in that.
Speaker 2: List Pine meadow's.
Speaker 3: COOL i like that golf. COURSE i, MEAN i don't
Speaker 3: know how architecturally sound it, is but as far as
Speaker 3: a public, COURSE i, mean it's tough and it's. SOLID
Speaker 3: i DON'T i haven't played there in, years BUT i
Speaker 3: want to say it's probably around one hundred bucks something like.
Speaker 2: That it's a good.
Speaker 1: Deal so the interesting thing About Pine meadow that is
Speaker 1: that it was originally designed By William, flynn the guy
Speaker 1: that Designed Shannacak.
Speaker 3: Hills, JESUS i did not know that.
Speaker 1: Catance at the country. CLUB i mean it Was integral
Speaker 1: And marion And Pine. Valley this guy came To Lake
Speaker 1: forest to build a state for this guy Named Albert,
Speaker 1: laskar and it was called Mill Road Farms Golf. CLUB
Speaker 1: i THINK i think that was the, name but, anyways
Speaker 1: it was apparently this golf course in Lake. Forest he
Speaker 1: Built Pine. Metal at the same, time this golf course
Speaker 1: In Lake forest was The oakmont of The, midwest and
Speaker 1: there was an ongoing bet That laskar had with any
Speaker 1: tour professional that they couldn't come and break park and
Speaker 1: he would give him a thousand bucks if they broke
Speaker 1: part the. Course AND i think only one guy did it.
Speaker 1: Ever but Then laskar died and it became a housing,
Speaker 1: development and you, Know Lake forest lost probably the best
Speaker 1: golf course in the, town in the. City maybe the
Speaker 1: city probably wouldn't have been better Than Chicago.
Speaker 3: Golf but sounds Like Jerry, rick she has a standing
Speaker 3: standing offer to try to break part rich haarvis from the.
Speaker 1: Tips, yeah it's probably a little bit different type test
Speaker 1: of golf in terms of what it. Demands let's, See,
Speaker 1: uh is there A Golden age course not in the US,
Speaker 1: Ga rhoda for events that AREN'T Us, open Mid, am
Speaker 1: all those all the am events that should Be.
Speaker 3: You know, what why don't you take that one that
Speaker 3: seems right up your?
Speaker 2: ALLEY i feel like the u S ga gets. There
Speaker 2: they're kind of pick of the.
Speaker 1: Litter BUT i don't know the last, time Like San
Speaker 1: Francisco Golf club had, something AND.
Speaker 2: I think that would be a great golf.
Speaker 1: Course obviously you've got another, one might be Like peachtree
Speaker 1: hasn't ever really had.
Speaker 2: ANYTHING i don't.
Speaker 1: SEE i think these clubs probably aren't interested in hosting, them,
Speaker 1: Right so then but those AND i think Like San
Speaker 1: Francisco Golf, club given its lack of, distance would you'd
Speaker 1: have to have like a mid am at the best
Speaker 1: course That i've played this, year not Named Chicago Golf
Speaker 1: club Or Fisher's island is a place Called, moraine and
Speaker 1: it's In, Dayton.
Speaker 2: Ohio it's neighbors WITH.
Speaker 1: NCR i played a US am qualifier, there so it's
Speaker 1: not THE usga run. Event it's a it's a Local
Speaker 1: Golf association run. Event and only one guy broke part
Speaker 1: over the two, rounds and it was it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was like abnormally windy or bad.
Speaker 2: Conditions it was a good day to play.
Speaker 1: Golf SO i would Say moraine should be hosting. Something
Speaker 1: it should host like A Senior, open a senior, players
Speaker 1: like if the tour wanted to go, there or it
Speaker 1: could be like an awesome US am host WITH ncr
Speaker 1: is the other, course or a mid am course with AN.
Speaker 1: Ncr they literally are they butt up against each, Other
Speaker 1: so that could be a really great kind of. Combo
Speaker 1: here's a good. One overrated underrated practice.
Speaker 3: Swings i'm gonna say. OVERRATED I i only say that
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think it's such a perceived notion that you
Speaker 3: have to have this two, swing three swing. Routine and
Speaker 3: there's been times Where i've struggled playing And i'll switch
Speaker 3: up my, ROUTINE i, mean and maybe go no practice
Speaker 3: swings and you play fine for a little. Bit SO i,
Speaker 3: mean as long as you're you're, LOOSE i mean it.
Speaker 3: Depends if you're rehearsing, something you, know like trying to
Speaker 3: get under it or come over, it whatever you whatever you're,
Speaker 3: rehearsing then practice swings actually. Help but if you're swinging
Speaker 3: it pretty, Well i'm not really. SURE i, mean what
Speaker 3: they do for you mm.
Speaker 1: Hmm some people say that your best swing would be
Speaker 1: your first wing because it's.
Speaker 3: An.
Speaker 1: Instinctual i'd say, overrated not. Necessary here's another good one for.
Speaker 1: You should The Walker cup reserve a spot for midam,
Speaker 1: or a senior am or and a senior.
Speaker 3: AM I i THINK i said this on the last,
Speaker 3: one but, NO i don't think. SO i, MEAN i
Speaker 3: think it should be the twelve or how many ten
Speaker 3: or twelve ten?
Speaker 2: TEN i should be it should expand to twelve, though.
Speaker 3: If you expanded to. TWELVE i think you, could you,
Speaker 3: know you'd have some wiggle room. There BUT i think
Speaker 3: if it's, TEN i think. NEITHER i think you should
Speaker 3: just have the ten best. Players and LIKE i said
Speaker 3: it at the on the last, ONE i hope it's six.
Speaker 3: Midam's but you, know if it's, not it's. Not it
Speaker 3: should be the ten best players that play in.
Speaker 2: IT i, agree it's not like. THEY i.
Speaker 1: Guess you, know this year The President's cup Took, phil
Speaker 1: which was kind of like taking a.
Speaker 2: Midam he probably, didn't.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah the, team let's, see we'll say.
Speaker 2: Overrated. Underrated Midwest Fall golf From. Andy, okay so.
Speaker 3: UNDERRATED i Love Midwest fall. Golf i'm trying to figure
Speaker 3: out a. Way i'm trying to figure out a few
Speaker 3: dates In october to come up north and play x
Speaker 3: more and all the good golf courses that are so
Speaker 3: it's when it's firm and fast Up. North typically the
Speaker 3: the courses are just so. Good it's my favorite time of.
Speaker 3: Year there's nothing to be better than playing like a
Speaker 3: eight o'clock round on A saturday And, sunday you, know eating,
Speaker 3: lunch going home and just watching football. Day it's like
Speaker 3: a dream.
Speaker 1: Day, yeah especially when it's the weather where like you're
Speaker 1: wearing pants AND i pull over when you tee off
Speaker 1: and then buy like by eight your pants and a
Speaker 1: shirt and it's just like that perfect. Weather it's a little,
Speaker 1: brisk and the balls balls, running the greens are flying
Speaker 1: because they don't have to worry about all the diseases
Speaker 1: getting in, there like the humidity.
Speaker 2: Over there's no way it could be possibly. Overrated.
Speaker 1: Agreed what's the craziest confrontation you've ever witnessed on the
Speaker 1: golf course or?
Speaker 3: HALT i saw this. Question it reminded me of one.
Speaker 3: THING i was playing a high school match with my Buddy.
Speaker 3: Andrew we were PLAYING i GUESS i shouldn't say what,
Speaker 3: school so we're what school we were playing, against but
Speaker 3: we were both playing For New, trier and one of
Speaker 3: the guys we're playing against is clearly moving his marker,
Speaker 3: up like every time he puts it, down he moves
Speaker 3: it up like literally like six inches to a. FOOT i,
Speaker 3: mean we would turn around talk to each other and
Speaker 3: he'd be hate to have like a tap in instead
Speaker 3: of a three. Footer we're, like what the hell is going?
Speaker 3: On so that it's, Like, okay you, Know i'll you,
Speaker 3: Know i'm gonna keep an eye on, them blah blah.
Speaker 3: Blah So i'm not really paying attention on like the seventh.
Speaker 3: POLE i look over And vitt goes up to this
Speaker 3: kid and he, goes, LISTEN i saw you move that.
Speaker 3: Marker i'm not gonna call you on, it but if
Speaker 3: you do it, again And i'm gonna beat the fuck
Speaker 3: out of, You, like oh my, god and the kid
Speaker 3: got ghost. White literally MADE i think double or triple
Speaker 3: on eight and double or triple on nine after being
Speaker 3: like even. Par it was the craziest Thing i've. Seen
Speaker 3: he was so, flustered it was. Amazing, yes it's the
Speaker 3: high school high school. Golf lots of high school golf
Speaker 3: can get.
Speaker 2: Crazy, yeah mine would.
Speaker 1: BE i was playing at my home club AND i
Speaker 1: HIT i sprayed.
Speaker 2: ONE i was actually somebody else sprayed one into our fair,
Speaker 2: away AND i pointed.
Speaker 1: OUT i was, like here's your, ball and the guy
Speaker 1: like drives up with his cart and he like immediately
Speaker 1: starts like getting ready to hit the, shot And i'm
Speaker 1: walking like directly in front of, him and like all
Speaker 1: of a, Sudden i'm like standing right in his crosshairs
Speaker 1: And i'm, like.
Speaker 2: Holy, shit this guy's gonna hit the.
Speaker 1: Ball AND i start running with my bag on my
Speaker 1: shoulders and.
Speaker 2: He hit he.
Speaker 1: Chunks, it and he was like this big, guy he
Speaker 1: chunks this and it like goes like you, know like
Speaker 1: right in like thirty.
Speaker 2: Yards And i'm, like holy. Shit AND i AND i
Speaker 2: said to, HIM i was, like, dude you gotta wait
Speaker 2: till people get out of your.
Speaker 1: Way and he, goes you THOUGHT i was gonna hit,
Speaker 1: you and LIKE i was pretty pissed. Off SO i, said,
Speaker 1: well with a swing like, that you you would never.
Speaker 1: Know and, UH i mean this guy got like enraged
Speaker 1: and he was was he. Hammered, No, no he's this
Speaker 1: big guy he had he was tatted up and and
Speaker 1: my BUDDY i was playing with, like, dude like why
Speaker 1: why did you say that to?
Speaker 2: Him but, yeah he got really. Mad it was it
Speaker 2: WAS i actually kind of.
Speaker 1: Was scared about getting my ass kicked on a golf,
Speaker 1: course WHICH i didn't.
Speaker 2: Think whatever.
Speaker 3: Happened how about overrated underrated wedge stamps And adirondack.
Speaker 2: CHAIRS i think they're both.
Speaker 1: OVERRATED i have LIKE i had a buddy give me
Speaker 1: Some wilson wedges and they have my initials on, them
Speaker 1: and it's, cool but LIKE i don't get in on
Speaker 1: like the, designs like a cool putter cover doesn't get me,
Speaker 1: going or A i'm like kind.
Speaker 2: Of more of a.
Speaker 1: Minimalist and then the, CHAIRS i think, that like people
Speaker 1: make such a big deal about them that they're. OVERRATED
Speaker 1: i just naturally think things are overrated when people like.
Speaker 3: THEM i say overrated wedge, stamps AND i guess underrated
Speaker 3: at around back chairs BECAUSE i like saying at around
Speaker 3: deck they are.
Speaker 1: Cool Like Arcadia bluffs has a bunch of them that
Speaker 1: on top of the bluff and they look out over
Speaker 1: the lake like that's fucking.
Speaker 2: Awesome i'm in on, that.
Speaker 3: But you're in on.
Speaker 2: That, yeah just in, general maybe out on. IT i
Speaker 2: don't think they're that comfortable.
Speaker 3: Either they're, okay, yeah you're, right they're. Not like it's
Speaker 3: Not god's gifts to.
Speaker 1: Comfort they look, cool but you, KNOW I i have
Speaker 1: this debate with my wife all the, time like they look,
Speaker 1: Cool like this looks, cool but it's not, Comfortable like
Speaker 1: that's the main point of a.
Speaker 2: Chair, right.
Speaker 3: That's a good that's a good spousal.
Speaker 2: Argument, yeah let's see what else we?
Speaker 1: Have, okay here here from sixteen, pars it looks like
Speaker 1: he had a he had an interesting uh.
Speaker 2: Experience in his Mid aam.
Speaker 1: Qualifier he's downwind two seventy six pin two forty to
Speaker 1: carry on the eighteenth over. Water it's a par five
Speaker 1: and it's a very windy, day and he's the second
Speaker 1: to last group with no live scoring and he's two.
Speaker 2: Over you, know with two qualifier, spots what would you?
Speaker 3: DO I i don't know IF i have enough information.
Speaker 3: THERE i think you need to. Know i'd like to know,
Speaker 3: where you. KNOW i think he probably had, it hopefully
Speaker 3: a general idea of who was in the. Field and
Speaker 3: it depends on where the wind. IS i think that
Speaker 3: if you can hit it two, fifty you, hit you
Speaker 3: go for. It but if if the two forty yardage
Speaker 3: is right on the, BORDER i think you have to
Speaker 3: try to lay up and make birdie the other, way
Speaker 3: because there's nothing worse Than, YEAH i did this in
Speaker 3: A monday qualifier for The Greater Milwaukee. OPEN I i
Speaker 3: THINK i was three or four, under four, under maybe maybe,
Speaker 3: FIVE i, Forget But i'm A monday qualifying And i'm
Speaker 3: on the eighteenth three AND i look at my buddy
Speaker 3: who's cadding for, me And i'm, like, DUDE i have
Speaker 3: like a thirty footer. Downhill i'm, like, dude IF i
Speaker 3: make this, Putt i'm going to play in a tour.
Speaker 3: Event he's like, yeah. Yeah So i'm, LIKE i ram
Speaker 3: it ten feet, by you, Know i'm, like, oh, man come,
Speaker 3: back miss the comebacker tap. In HAD i just two,
Speaker 3: PUTTED i would have been in a. Playoff so you
Speaker 3: never want. It you never want, to you, know count your.
Speaker 3: CHICKENS i unless it's you can you can miss it
Speaker 3: and hit it two, FORTY i would probably lay. Up.
Speaker 1: YEAH i think in, general thinking numbers is the complete
Speaker 1: wrong way to play a. Qualifier something that's helped me
Speaker 1: recently with qualifiers is THAT i don't think about my.
Speaker 1: SCORE i just simply say to, myself AM i playing?
Speaker 1: Well and If i'm playing, well no matter what my score,
Speaker 1: Is i'm probably going to be very close or like you,
Speaker 1: know if it's at state, Level i'm going to get.
Speaker 1: In at A usga, Level i'm probably going to be somewhat,
Speaker 1: close AND i just need some putts to go.
Speaker 2: In so because like you don't know.
Speaker 1: What the number is ever going to be and even
Speaker 1: thinking about the number is just wasting your time and
Speaker 1: taking you out of what the psychologists say is.
Speaker 2: The, moment you.
Speaker 1: Know SO i would say that the first Question i'd
Speaker 1: ask myself, is especially like on a wendy, day AM
Speaker 1: i playing very?
Speaker 2: Well if you're playing very, well you're probably in a good.
Speaker 1: Spot LIKE i, think think back to like The Lakeshore midam,
Speaker 1: thing like WHERE i played really well last year in
Speaker 1: This midham thing AND i shot seventy on a really,
Speaker 1: tough windy, Day LIKE i was walking off that. COURSE
Speaker 1: i would never think like on a regular day like
Speaker 1: seventy is going to be the medalist ends up being
Speaker 1: the medalist because it was a tough. Day BUT i
Speaker 1: KNEW i played great. Golf so it's like a number
Speaker 1: doesn't really. Matter it matters how you, play, RIGHT i sixteen?
Speaker 3: Parts please tweet us and let us know what you.
Speaker 3: Did i'm curious to see how that. Ended let's get.
Speaker 2: A couple more and we'll get out of. Here we
Speaker 2: touched on the. Ball let's do.
Speaker 1: How about we say, overrated underrated playing tournament golf from
Speaker 1: some guy Named, Tony.
Speaker 3: Well some guy Named. TONY i think playing tournament. GOLF
Speaker 3: i want to SAY i think. Underrated it's really fun to,
Speaker 3: compete and not necessarily against other, people but it's fun
Speaker 3: to see how like you mentally handle. SITUATIONS i think
Speaker 3: it's beneficial, too you, know as a, trader it's beneficial
Speaker 3: to me to know HOW i react to certain things
Speaker 3: and CAN i you, know keep cool and calm when
Speaker 3: things aren't going. Right SO i think IT'S i think it's.
Speaker 3: UNDERRATED i think it has value to other parts of your.
Speaker 3: LIFE i think that you, know you make a lot
Speaker 3: of good, friends So i'm going to say.
Speaker 2: Underrated, YEAH i think underrated.
Speaker 1: TOO i think it obviously helps your your golf. GAME
Speaker 1: i actually have like a problem now WHERE i don't
Speaker 1: play as well casual as a casual golfer AS i
Speaker 1: do as a tournament golfer BECAUSE i just don't. Focus
Speaker 1: but that's. Fine i'm not out there playing on A
Speaker 1: saturday morning to like grind out a, score, right more
Speaker 1: so to have. FUN i THINK i completely agree with
Speaker 1: helping other parts of your. Life LIKE i used to
Speaker 1: be in sales.
Speaker 2: And just like being, calm like that's the biggest, thing you.
Speaker 1: KNOW i used to run a little hot on the
Speaker 1: golf course and and, NOW i mean you eventually realize
Speaker 1: like it doesn't really, matter but it helps you with
Speaker 1: other aspects of your, life like you, know you have
Speaker 1: to you have to stay.
Speaker 3: Cool ride's discipline. TOO i, MEAN i know that you're
Speaker 3: probably not going to have fourteen beers with a nine
Speaker 3: am t time in a tournament the next, day so you,
Speaker 3: know you got to go to bed early on A
Speaker 3: friday night and get ready to play the next. Day
Speaker 3: SO i think it helps. Discipline, yeah keep you. Discipline Ryan,
Speaker 3: hennessy this is a good.
Speaker 1: Question why doesn't the low am at The masters get
Speaker 1: an invite to the next? Year is it because they
Speaker 1: assume that he turns pro After obviously it's it's point
Speaker 1: to big Stew.
Speaker 3: I'm curious if they assume, that, obviously we don't. KNOW
Speaker 3: i guess they probably, be DO i think they. Should
Speaker 3: they're very, obviously very pro, amateur AND i think they
Speaker 3: could put a caveat in there that the low am
Speaker 3: gets an invite next, year provided he's still an. Am
Speaker 3: that would be interesting because it must be such a
Speaker 3: cool experience that guys might even hold off on turning.
Speaker 3: PRO i wonder if that would you, know it's just you,
Speaker 3: know you play well on the you know you're low,
Speaker 3: am that's. Fine you play well the next year in The.
Speaker 3: Masters you, know you could make millions in sponsor money
Speaker 3: versus you, know grinding out a year on you, know
Speaker 3: the mini. Tours BUT i Think i'm all for. THAT
Speaker 3: i think the low am should get an invite the following.
Speaker 2: Year, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: AGREE i don't think a lot of people would stay pro.
Speaker 1: LIKE i think it's just cool for a guy Like.
Speaker 1: HAGASTAD i, mean obviously he, uh nobody expected him to
Speaker 1: be the low am At augusta and he played great
Speaker 1: golf for four days and the act that he is still,
Speaker 1: Amateur like why wouldn't you get? That and it would
Speaker 1: be for like cool, Parents like obviously THE usam champ
Speaker 1: gets to play with the Reigning masters champ and is
Speaker 1: it THE Us open? Champ, yes and so like that's that's.
Speaker 1: Cool but then you could have like the low am
Speaker 1: gets to play with like THE usm runner up and somebody.
Speaker 1: Else so maybe may you do THE usm runner up
Speaker 1: and The master's runner.
Speaker 2: Up from the year.
Speaker 3: Before that would be.
Speaker 1: Cool, Sure So i'm in on, that all, right let's, uh.
Speaker 3: How about this one From will, Says, Hi, ANDY i
Speaker 3: had this discussion recently with a. Friend i'm about a
Speaker 3: ten handicap in my mid. Twenties IF i quit my,
Speaker 3: job hired one of the top swing instructors in the,
Speaker 3: world and worked on my game full, time how good
Speaker 3: COULD i reasonably expect to get IN x amount of
Speaker 3: time a, year three, years five, years assume money isn't
Speaker 3: a part as far as equipment and course access. Goes
Speaker 3: COULD i expect to get to A Pga tour level
Speaker 3: of Play Web tour level or just be really good
Speaker 3: amateur at my? Club how much of golf do you
Speaker 3: think is natural talent and ability versus dedication and. Practice
Speaker 3: enjoy the, pod keep up the good, Work, Will.
Speaker 1: All, right this is a great, question AND i think you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i think some people have tried to do. This,
Speaker 1: NOW i would say that you're never going to get
Speaker 1: to A Web tour level or even.
Speaker 2: Like A Latin American tour.
Speaker 1: LEVEL i think your swing's going to have some flaws
Speaker 1: that are going to take a very long time to.
Speaker 1: Fix and the biggest thing is that you've missed out
Speaker 1: on reps for end of fifteen years that those guys
Speaker 1: have had the end not to mention all of the
Speaker 1: tournament golf experience like that can't go, without you, know
Speaker 1: like you can't under you can't overrate that.
Speaker 2: Enough SO i would say that you're never going.
Speaker 1: To get to a pro golf, level like of a
Speaker 1: touring pro golf. LEVEL i think you would become very.
Speaker 1: GOOD i think a year in you could probably expect
Speaker 1: to be down to a four or five. HANDICAP i
Speaker 1: think three years in you could be a good state
Speaker 1: level amateur. Player AND i think five years in you
Speaker 1: could begin, to you, know be playing in like you
Speaker 1: have chances to play in like THE us mid m
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 2: Level what do.
Speaker 3: You Think i'm going to, Say i'm. NOT i think
Speaker 3: that you're right on THE Pga, Tour Web tour. LEVEL
Speaker 3: i don't want to say it's zero, percent because there's
Speaker 3: always a, chance BUT i would put it under one.
Speaker 3: Percent you, know from a ten, HANDICAP i, think you,
Speaker 3: know it's hard. ENOUGH i know some guys that have
Speaker 3: been you, know plus one, scratches plus two's and tried
Speaker 3: to do, that and you know they. Haven't they haven't
Speaker 3: had much. Luck so coming from a ten without the
Speaker 3: reps That andy mentioned makes it even. HARDER i think
Speaker 3: in a, year golf's a hard, game AND i think
Speaker 3: in a year you could go from ten to four
Speaker 3: probably and then three years maybe four to, scratch and
Speaker 3: five years you could probably be playing in state. TOURNAMENTS
Speaker 3: i don't know if you could be at the top
Speaker 3: of that because you are competing against guys that practice
Speaker 3: a lot and they've been playing tournament golf for twenty thirty.
Speaker 3: Years so it's. TOUGH i, mean it's definitely, doable, THOUGH
Speaker 3: i mean it's. Not that's what's so great about golf
Speaker 3: is you could you, could you, know be one of
Speaker 3: the best senior ams in the world in twenty five.
Speaker 3: Years there's no doubt about. That but in terms of
Speaker 3: within the next five, YEARS i think that that's. Tough that's.
Speaker 1: Tough so, yeah like a good, EXAMPLE i have a
Speaker 1: buddy friend of the, pod his name is he played
Speaker 1: minor league baseball his and he he's a buddy of
Speaker 1: a buddy of, mine like from high. School they played
Speaker 1: high school golf. Together so he was a high school.
Speaker 1: Golfer he, was you, know once upon a, time a
Speaker 1: two handicap in high, school and he played minor league,
Speaker 1: baseball AND i remember playing with him right after he
Speaker 1: quit minor league, baseball and he was like a six
Speaker 1: or an eight, Handicap like he wasn't you, know, great
Speaker 1: but he had like he murdered the. Ball and within
Speaker 1: two years he was down to like a two or a,
Speaker 1: one like back to his high school, level and within
Speaker 1: four years he was at a plus handicap. Level but
Speaker 1: this is a guy that was already had a lot
Speaker 1: of the reps and the, skill but you, know had
Speaker 1: fallen down because of a lack of.
Speaker 2: Playing so and he has a ton of athletic, Ability
Speaker 2: like he hits.
Speaker 1: The ball like three hundred and fifty, Yards so THAT
Speaker 1: i would, SAY i think YOU'RE i think you're right
Speaker 1: five years that you probably a state competitor with like
Speaker 1: a very outside chance to qualify for like A us
Speaker 1: madan mm hm so.
Speaker 3: So on this question that wasn't isn't is It Jason?
Speaker 3: Bone did he do? This didn't he make a hole in?
Speaker 3: One or is? That is? That What i'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Is Scott.
Speaker 1: Piercy didn't He, Well Scott, PIERCY i think was trying
Speaker 1: to play pro golf and he won like a million
Speaker 1: dollar thing In.
Speaker 2: Vegas and that's how.
Speaker 3: Oh, No, yeah that's. DIFFERENT i Think Jason, bone If i'm,
Speaker 3: RIGHT i know. SOMEBODY i think It's Ja, bone you,
Speaker 3: know made a hole on, one basically quit his job
Speaker 3: and worked real hard for a few years and made the.
Speaker 3: Tour BUT i think he was obviously a great golfer.
Speaker 3: Beforehand maybe. Not, maybe you, know the money was a
Speaker 3: big hindrance to him getting at the next, level and
Speaker 3: then once he got, it he was able to do.
Speaker 3: It BUT i feel like that's.
Speaker 1: Right, YEAH i think if if if you're like a
Speaker 1: plus three and it happened like or a plus, two
Speaker 1: like you've got a small.
Speaker 3: Chance but it's still SO I i you, KNOW i have.
Speaker 3: Buddies i'm thirty three, now SO i graduated eleven years.
Speaker 3: AGO i have buddies THAT i graduated with still playing
Speaker 3: mini tour golf and they are, playing you, know full
Speaker 3: time for eleven, years great talented, players and still you,
Speaker 3: know haven't played on The web OR Pga. Tour so
Speaker 3: it's JUST i mean to expect to do that is
Speaker 3: it's not in the realm of.
Speaker 1: Happening that's like the hosibility nobody, understands, like you, know
Speaker 1: LIKE I i played with a buddy of mine who's
Speaker 1: played full time on the web this, year AND i
Speaker 1: played really good golf and shot like seventy one that,
Speaker 1: day and he made a double bogie and shot sixty
Speaker 1: seven and who that? Means, Yeah and it's just, like you,
Speaker 1: know LIKE i DON'T i don't have that in. THERE
Speaker 1: i always say that they're like a Deep they're like
Speaker 1: a nuclear Sub like they get under the water and
Speaker 1: they can go as low as you they. Want And
Speaker 1: i'm a, snorkeler so.
Speaker 3: Just dabble a little.
Speaker 2: BIT i can get down. There you.
Speaker 1: Know SOMETIMES i spend a lot of time above, water
Speaker 1: and then WHEN i get get below, water like IF
Speaker 1: i get too far, under Like i'm getting water down
Speaker 1: the snorkel tube And i'm coming.
Speaker 3: UP i like that analogy. Snorkeler so all, RIGHT.
Speaker 2: I think that's, uh we got to most of. It
Speaker 2: thanks for all the questions. Ones, yeah if you want.
Speaker 2: To you, know we do this.
Speaker 1: Pretty, regularly so if you want, to you can email
Speaker 1: them to us, too if you have a long, question
Speaker 1: if you if you just tweet at, Me i'm not very,
Speaker 1: organized so so if you if you want to question
Speaker 1: in the best way to do is. Email if if
Speaker 1: it's not associated to a thread WHERE i where we
Speaker 1: are ask for. Questions So, kyle thanks for coming.
Speaker 3: On, yeah thanks for having.
Speaker 2: Me good to have you. Back, hey it's glad you're
Speaker 2: safe and sound down there In.
Speaker 3: Florida and thanks all right, later see you, guys