WEBVTT - FedEx Cup Mailbag

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<v Speaker 1>I miss the green.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, I'm already upset. When I find my ball

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<v Speaker 2>in the bunker, I'm really upset. And when I find my.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball in a fried egg Friday egg, the dreaded Friday egg,

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<v Speaker 3>Frida egg, Frida egg, Frida egg bride egg.

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<v Speaker 2>Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Podcast. We've got Kyle, Nathan Draws and Fades is

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<v Speaker 1>back for another mailbag.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Not too much? What's happening with you? Why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>tell us about uh being stranded on a tropical island?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you had to you had to evacuate too,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been a been a rough couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't, can't mess around with weather. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>congrats on the marriage, the nuptials.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, married man new uh new era. So we uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the storm missed our island by like one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred miles or so, So it was a lot closer

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<v Speaker 1>than I really knew. I looked one day like it

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<v Speaker 1>started getting windy, and then I looked at the at

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<v Speaker 1>the radar and saw that it was like just north

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<v Speaker 1>of us. I was like, well, I'm glad I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that it was even like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Close, No need to panic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And then sure enough we were flying through Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>so an American and uh yeah that that flight I

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<v Speaker 1>guess still hasn't left now because of Maria hit Saint Lucia.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you have to get a passport from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have run out of money too, because if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to keep staying paying the all inclusive rate,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been Uh, I would have been in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good, good little reset and uh good

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<v Speaker 1>to just chill out on a beach and I read

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch. Yeah, And I mean we just drank and

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<v Speaker 1>ate a lot too, So it was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right up my alley. That sounds fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So what'd you do? How'd you would you tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about evacuating?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you just went up to Birmingham and hung out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been there before to play a couple of golf

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<v Speaker 3>tournaments at the country called Birmingham, so I knew it

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<v Speaker 3>was a nice place and it was fun to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Sucked.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like I was supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 3>nine hour drive. It took us seventeen there, seventeen back.

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<v Speaker 3>It was awful. But everything's all good down here, so

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<v Speaker 3>can't be can't complain.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, uh, everybody evacuating. It's like a it'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like it's like driving in Chicago rush hour

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<v Speaker 1>traffic for nine hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, dude, the craziest thing was the gas. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if you needed gas, it was literally an hour wait.

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<v Speaker 3>It was insane. I've never seen anything like it. And

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<v Speaker 3>what scared me more is you saw cars with like

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<v Speaker 3>four gas canisters like tied to the back of their

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<v Speaker 3>car so they didn't have to stop them. Like if

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<v Speaker 3>someone rearins them, that's going to be an explosion. Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's just such a just scary gas situation.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't sound very safe.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not safe at all. But they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to wait an hour, so I'll just

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<v Speaker 3>tape it to my license plate.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a very Florida thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so Florida, like seventy four dead as Florida man

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<v Speaker 3>pours gasoline on his car. You did make it back

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<v Speaker 3>for the BMW, though, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get back, I get back on Friday morning

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<v Speaker 1>at a layover and in LaGuardia.

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<v Speaker 2>What an awful, awful place that is, my fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>We got there in the morning after we flew, we

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<v Speaker 1>flew into JFK and I said to my fiance, I go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst airport in America. And she goes, why, I go,

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<v Speaker 2>it's absolutely awful and you know, the people and it

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<v Speaker 2>don't make it any better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>At like five thirty in the morning, we waited an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half for security and there was literally

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<v Speaker 1>forty people in front of us, and we walked through

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, she goes, yeah, this is uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely the worst airport in America.

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<v Speaker 3>That's brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>But BMW was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the well it's always amazing. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it in our group text. But hello, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys shoot, of course, is like I've never thought Conway

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<v Speaker 1>Farms is easy, and yet these guys shoot like sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four in their sleep. The conditions were, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty for the greens were really firm. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing is that there's just no you know,

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<v Speaker 1>real they don't have to think out there and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you know that really puts that, you know, question

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<v Speaker 1>in their head, and that's kind of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you do to defend against these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's insane to me. I've probably played Conway, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty to fifty times a lot, and I've never once

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<v Speaker 3>walked off the course thinking it was even medium difficulty.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always thought it's a tough course. You get through

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<v Speaker 3>like four or five six, and you know there's stretches

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<v Speaker 3>of holes where you're like, oh my god, just hold

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<v Speaker 3>on for dear life, don't make double. And you play well,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you shoot sixty eight, sixty nine if you play

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<v Speaker 3>a great round for me at least, and these guys

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<v Speaker 3>shoot sixty two, like sixty three, and you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>I play bad there it's seventy six in a hurry,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're like, oh yeah, I played terrible, shot

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<v Speaker 3>seventy Like It's just it's it's insane, especially like to

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<v Speaker 3>see that on a golf course that I know and

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<v Speaker 3>that I think is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking about it with a buddy of mine

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, it's basically just what just Jason Day

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<v Speaker 3>did at Whistling. It's like you're right. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's not as good as Day's performance. But it's crazy

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<v Speaker 3>to put in perspective. These guys just annihilate these difficult courses.

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<v Speaker 3>It's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they just hit it so far and so.

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<v Speaker 3>Straight is I mean far and Straight's good?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like when I drive the ball well, I shoot well,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's like I shoot like sixty eights and sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>But when these guys drive the ball, well, it's sixty three,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, sixty four. And it's just crazy because you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's what is seventy three hundred yards ish seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four and seventy four hundred yards to these guys is

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<v Speaker 1>driver wedge fest.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. I never really, I've never thought of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought there is a long course, let alone, you

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<v Speaker 3>know medium. It's a long golf course to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I hit it, what two seventy five. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like I hit it short. I mean I hit

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<v Speaker 3>it short by their standards. But to me, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>really long golf course, a lot of four irons, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're just hitting you know, flip wedges.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's not a lot of guys. That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I think is happening. And you see it

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<v Speaker 1>is with the ball in the way, how straight it goes?

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<v Speaker 1>Now is you see the skilled guys, the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily hit it that far but are just phenomenal

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<v Speaker 1>with every other club in their bag. They're being phased

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<v Speaker 1>out of professional golf, like who you know you used

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<v Speaker 1>to have like Jim Fiurick, for example, and like Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Donald was high in the rankings and.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently number one in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, number one in the world. I mean you go

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<v Speaker 1>back into the era like Nick Faldo is a perfect example,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't hit it anywhere, but he had maximum.

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<v Speaker 2>Control of his ball. He could hit it all the

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<v Speaker 2>shots like he wouldn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's game, Like if you don't hit a three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten yards or three hundred yards see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a shame, really is I

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<v Speaker 3>think that it's it's you're eliminating, like you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>sixty percent of the people that are good enough to

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<v Speaker 3>be on tour or eliminated because of that, And I

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<v Speaker 3>just I don't know how to combat it. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a question about the golf ball and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can only make a golf course so tight,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, what are you supposed to make

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<v Speaker 3>it a bowling alley with obi left ob right or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, water out of bounds. I'm not sure how

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<v Speaker 3>to fix it except probably the golf ball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you you want to go play an eighty two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>yard US Open, I mean that sounds ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>And the just the fact that, like it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable model for a golf course. Like think about if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a nine thousand yard course, watering like and

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<v Speaker 1>maintenance of.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and oh yeah, the expenses go up dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that nine thousand yard course is used like

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<v Speaker 1>once every ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's it's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think the big thing is is that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think narrow is the answer though, Like I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always banging.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we're a big wif guy. But I know that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I was thinking. That's the only answer to me

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<v Speaker 3>besides the golf ball. And I know you're gonna hate that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's my thought process is, like you could create

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<v Speaker 1>a really wide course that could even be short and

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<v Speaker 1>let long hitters try and drive greens all day, like

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<v Speaker 1>it could be you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a lot of three hundred and fifty yard part fours.

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<v Speaker 1>But let the shorter guy because long players and short players,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's going to miss the fairway. You know what kills

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<v Speaker 1>the short players is when they miss the fairway and

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<v Speaker 1>they're hitting fore iron out of thick rough right, and

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<v Speaker 1>long hitters are hitting wedge like you can hit a

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<v Speaker 1>wedge out of thick rough. You can't hit four iron

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<v Speaker 1>not a thick rough. And I think the width thing

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting because what it does is it allows you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the bombers are going to try and drive a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those greens and they're trying to up there, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially if it can be firm and fast,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll get themselves in terrible spots where the shorter hitter

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<v Speaker 1>can play to strength, they can play to angles and

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<v Speaker 1>let their wedge game play, you know, right. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my thought process. I think about like the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Course, I mean, is a perfect example. You had

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Johnson when that are and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The widest golf course in the world and it's all

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<v Speaker 2>about angles. You don't ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Really know what the exact right way to play a

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<v Speaker 1>golf hole is, and depending on whatever the pin is

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<v Speaker 1>it's dramatically different day to day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same. You see the same at Augusta. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit less than it used to be. But

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<v Speaker 2>those are two of the best championship golf courses ever.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they're really wide, why to do people think

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<v Speaker 2>we need to go narrow?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, both of those courses, obviously St. Andrews is they're

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<v Speaker 3>not as fast, but they both have really difficult green complexes,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's always a defense that you know, we both

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<v Speaker 3>played some sixty five sixty six hundred yard golf courses

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<v Speaker 3>that can play really tough because because of the green complexes,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know if you shortside yourself you have zero chance.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that those those golf courses are fun.

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<v Speaker 3>But and you know you could do that on tour

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<v Speaker 3>where you have the greens running twelve and a half

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen and a half and they're super undulating and tough

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<v Speaker 3>to putt. But you can't do that for the everyday golfer.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I agree, but that every day golfer isn't

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<v Speaker 1>having the problems of shooting sixty three at seventy four

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<v Speaker 1>golf course. In having an entire style of golf be

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<v Speaker 1>essentially extinct from the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess what do you think about kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the FedEx playoffs?

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<v Speaker 2>While we're on the topic, do you do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it works? Obviously, football just kills it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm like a huge golf fan, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the country, I'd probably watch a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of football. I'd be flipping back and forth, like golf

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have my full equity.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just even if it was later in the season.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm the same way I watched all football

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<v Speaker 3>the last last weekend, you know, obviously flipping back a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, but I just it's the time that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>football is just starting. You're all excited. You know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Bears haven't don't have seven losses yet, so I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to watch that game and red zone they should for that,

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<v Speaker 3>I agree they should, but you know, I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>flipping back and with the with the red zone channel nowadays,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it's the timing. I think if you put

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<v Speaker 3>it in you know, not that they would, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you put it, you know, more towards the middle, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 3>more towards the middle of the season, you'd get a

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<v Speaker 3>little more interest in it. I just the timing is terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>The formats okay, I mean it's it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the format is terrible. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the other podcasts. We like formats better, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's like I like the idea of doing a

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<v Speaker 1>match play thing, but at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is like ratings and like having two guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the golf course on Sunday of the season finale,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's not going to work. I see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people throw out the idea of that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>obviously moving before football will help a lot, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like at the dull drums of sports.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, I just don't think anybody, even the players, really care.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the top players don't really even care about the

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<v Speaker 1>FedEx Cup because like it's ten million dollars, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, you know, your your legacy is a player

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<v Speaker 1>is why people care so much about the majors.

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<v Speaker 2>And they.

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<v Speaker 1>Like nobody's going to be like, oh, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>two time FedEx Cup champion.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, totally. I mean in other sports it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what has this guy done in the playoffs. You know, Kershaw,

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<v Speaker 3>his legacy's tarnish because he hasn't played well in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>But you look at golf, you're like, what you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know the results from last year, and

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<v Speaker 3>I probably watched him, but I can tell you who

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<v Speaker 3>won all the majors last year. So the majors are

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<v Speaker 3>Golf's playoffs. This is some kind of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>money grab, but it is something I guess. Yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a huge fan of it. I wish they

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<v Speaker 3>would do something else, but they probably won't. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>they should. They'll stick with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that billion dollar check from FedEx is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make him ride out this playoff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the other thing I saw when I was researching

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<v Speaker 1>for the newsletters.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't I mean, I just I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't remember it. I guess that's part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But I forgot that. The so you could win every

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<v Speaker 1>single tournament you played in for a year, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could get to the FedEx Cup finals and they diminish

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<v Speaker 1>your points to a set amount as number one m HM.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really doesn't matter. Like Jordan Speed, like the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that like that Jordan Spied could win the first

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<v Speaker 1>three events of the playoffs he didn't and then not

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<v Speaker 1>win the whole FedEx Cup to me is just completely idiotic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ridiculous. It's it's literally just I mean it's that's so,

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<v Speaker 3>that's because they want the five guys to have a chance, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so everybody in the field to have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because it doesn't matter. I mean, that's there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if it was something so significant that all

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<v Speaker 3>these guys you know, cared so deeply about that, that

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't exist. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is is like, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>condense all of golf. Like I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>think about golf, but I always look at players, like

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<v Speaker 1>even at our level, I look at players that are

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<v Speaker 1>more consistent than me, that always finished top five, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, God, they're so consistent. They win a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times, they finished top five all the time, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, trying to condense.

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<v Speaker 1>Golf down into one week or a four week stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>to me is kind of not what the game's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Tiger always said, he's chasing consistency. That's The number

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<v Speaker 1>one thing he's always looking forward is to become more consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're trying to condense a season long thing into

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that. I you know, the difference between

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<v Speaker 3>winning in third place at that level maybe a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of lipouts, you know, or you hit a tree and

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<v Speaker 3>it kicks in the fairway, or you hit a tree

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<v Speaker 3>and it kicks behind a tree. You know, That's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the difference. So I'm with you. Condencing it to one

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<v Speaker 3>week or even four is not great.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get Let's get into the questions David Horlander.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had to move to BMW to another Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>area course, which one and why?

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<v Speaker 3>A couple came to mind. The first one that came

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<v Speaker 3>to mind is right down the road from Conway is Knowlwold.

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<v Speaker 3>It came to mind because I played the mid Am

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twelve at Conway and Nowood was the sister course.

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<v Speaker 3>And Nowood not only is it a great golf course,

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<v Speaker 3>but the stroke average was i want to say, almost

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<v Speaker 3>two strokes higher. The rough was a little overgrown, but

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that golf course can be tough. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>huge piece of property. I mean, there's no doubt it

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<v Speaker 3>hosted the Western a couple of years ago, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt it could host it. So I would probably

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<v Speaker 3>say that's my first choice. Obviously there's others, but Nolwood

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<v Speaker 3>would be ideal.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Nolwood.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up working there at Caddied and back room,

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<v Speaker 1>did there for like ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that place.

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<v Speaker 1>The one concern I would have there is just infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>right getting like big grand stands and The's That's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think I've realized the more I've covered golf

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<v Speaker 1>and going to these events, is like there's so few

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<v Speaker 1>good sites available because of all the infrastructure you need

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<v Speaker 1>with the grand stand, the length of the golf course

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<v Speaker 1>you need nowadays, and like the type of golf course

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<v Speaker 1>like where.

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<v Speaker 2>So many are are not available to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So like my con So the other thing with Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting dynamic with it is is they saw it at.

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<v Speaker 2>The US helping.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to have a championship on the South

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<v Speaker 1>side because there just aren't a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a big concentration of golfers.

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<v Speaker 1>The north and the West side are the are like

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<v Speaker 1>the north and west suburbs are the places where you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find the most golfers, and if you have

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<v Speaker 1>it down like Olympia Fields would be a great host.

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<v Speaker 1>But for somebody from the North Side, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take an hour plus to get down there, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just frankly aren't going to go travel down there to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would look at obviously Medina is the next host.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a it's a good host because you

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<v Speaker 1>know the property, the infrastructure, like, I mean, that place

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<v Speaker 1>can host a championship easily and has all the parking,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to get to, and it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big property.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not crazy about the course, it's it's very Reese jonety.

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<v Speaker 1>But if if that place got restored, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>or redone by like Bill kre Ben Crenshaw or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>like that, that place would be a top ten championship

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<v Speaker 1>course in the in the country. Another one that I

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it's the top of the list on everything with

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago's Chicago Golf Club, I mean, they've got plenty of space.

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<v Speaker 1>They could actually host one of these championships, but that

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<v Speaker 1>would never never happen because they'd have to give up

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<v Speaker 1>their course for a week. But they have the space

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<v Speaker 1>and for the infrastructure needs and that would just be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean, I think Conways is a good

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<v Speaker 1>host because of where it's located. It's got the space

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<v Speaker 1>for the infrastructure, and uh, I think I think the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course has a ton of potential to get better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am with you. All right, Let's go to

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<v Speaker 3>the next question from Nate Maori. Nate, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>think about the web Tour schedule criss crossing the nation?

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<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't they think about the money implications on players and caddies.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to say the least, the Web Tour scheduling is

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<v Speaker 1>it is a complete dumpster fire. They started the season

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Bahamas and then they took a week

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<v Speaker 1>off and then went back to the Bahamas. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that just from right off, the right off the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the season, terrible scheduling with like any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thought to their players and caddies, Like they had

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<v Speaker 1>to buy two flight, two round trip tickets to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas as opposed to just one. These guys are playing

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<v Speaker 1>for so little Monaymian. You finish in fortieth place on

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<v Speaker 1>the Web Tour and you make like twenty six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and that doesn't even cover your travel for the

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<v Speaker 1>week and for the caddy that's like so you get

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent, that's two hundred and sixty dollars plus you're

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<v Speaker 1>like one thousand dollars a week fee. So yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>the Web Tour, I know that are in a tough

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<v Speaker 1>spot with sponsors, but I just don't think the tour

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<v Speaker 1>does enough to promote how good the golf is. I

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<v Speaker 1>think last year, between the WEB graduates and the finals participants,

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<v Speaker 1>you had nine PGA Tour winners on the season, So like,

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<v Speaker 1>how how is this.

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<v Speaker 2>Golf not being celebrated?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you go watch a WEB event and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>as good at golf, as very close to as good

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<v Speaker 1>of golf as the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 2>The names just aren't recognizable.

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<v Speaker 3>So more fun to it ten too. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>much more intimate than you know, standing six people back,

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<v Speaker 3>you can you know, walk right along with whoever you

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<v Speaker 3>want really usually mm hmm exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean the crazy thing I think is the misconception.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Web is that it's a young tour and

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually turning into more of an older tour because

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<v Speaker 1>you get there's so many young guys on the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour that you have all these like older guys that

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<v Speaker 1>should still be on the PGA Tour, like if it

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<v Speaker 1>was fifteen years ago, but now they're stuck playing down

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<v Speaker 1>there because there's just no spots form.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I obviously the reason it is the

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<v Speaker 3>way it is, I think is it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 3>good golf courses, to give up your golf, to give

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<v Speaker 3>up your days for a tour event, let alone a

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<v Speaker 3>web dot com. So I think that they try to

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<v Speaker 3>mix and match the best they can, but I am

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<v Speaker 3>in agreement with you that they can. They can absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>do better, because it's not it's not fair to these

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<v Speaker 3>guys at all. I mean not one bit. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>ask the tour guys to do the same thing. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even think because they would, you know, bitch about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh yeah, it's not good. It's I couldn't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>being a caddy on the Web Tour. It would just

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<v Speaker 1>be I mean, I don't know how those guys afford

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<v Speaker 1>to live. Jay Rigdon overrated, underrated nine hole golf courses.

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<v Speaker 3>I love nine hole golf courses. I grew up, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say underrated. I grew up playing the Wineka par three.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably my first fifty rounds of golfer at the Winneka

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<v Speaker 3>par three, So I love it. There's some really cool

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<v Speaker 3>par threes. Uh, you know, there's one in Jupiter down here,

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<v Speaker 3>there's one in Palm Beach that's awesome. The one in

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<v Speaker 3>Palm Beach literally is better than most of the regular

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<v Speaker 3>golf courses around here. It's just it's they're a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of fun, and you know, you get obviously Pine Valley

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<v Speaker 3>and Olympic they all have really cool part three courses too.

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<v Speaker 3>But I I mean, I would almost prefer to play

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 3>a par three course than an eighteen whole course is

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 3>just a little more fun and it's not such a

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 3>time commitment.

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love nine hole courses because I like the

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>idea of just playing nine holes, Like mm hmm, you

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>don't always.

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Have time for eighteen.

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that we need more nine I'd love to

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>see a four hole course because, like I think golf

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>needs to try and compete with people's workouts, you know,

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and people always find an hour to work out, Like,

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>how come we can't create four hole courses that are

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>really interesting and.

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Fun where people can go play four holes.

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And it takes an hour on their way home from

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>work as opposed to two hours for nine or four

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 1>hours for eighteen. I think you'd see a lot more

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>people playing golf more often.

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 3>I feel like people have talked about that for a

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 3>few years now, and I can't believe it hasn't really

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 3>come to fruition, because it's that's an answer, you know,

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>all these what's happened to golf? How do we get

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 3>younger people? Blah blah blah. I mean, that's a complete answer,

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 3>and nobody's really kind of taking the ball and run

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 3>with it.

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>It's one of my One of the most fun golf

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>experiences I've had this year was my buddy's bachelor party

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and in Portland and he, you know, we were I

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>was with like a bunch of non golfers. Like one

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>guy hadn't played golf in fourteen years and he's like six'

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>five And serbian and he hadn't played he'd only played

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:23.959
<v Speaker 1>once in his.

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Life he was, terrible but he had a great time we.

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Played this place is called like Mcmanamon's pub, course and

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>they have a twenty hole par three course and a

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve hole par three. Course the clubhouse is a bar

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and you go there and you rent your clubs for

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>like a. Dollar it's a you get a, wedge a,

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 1>putter and one ball for a dollar and then you

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>go play and every hole is less than seventy yards

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>and it goes like uphill.

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Downhill the greens are. Tiny like it was actually like really.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Hard that's, fun so.

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Fun but it was it for you, know like the.

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Beginners they could they could literally hit a putter to the,

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>green you, know if they wanted to do they could

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>just put it because it was like straight up hill,

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>downhill so you could like on the downhill ones they

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>could just put.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 2>It it was really.

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Cool it, was but like more places like, THAT i

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>mean that it had more of a top golf style

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>feel in terms of like the, atmosphere but it was

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>more golf than top.

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Golf.

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Cool i'm all about.

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>That Philip johnson, overrated Underrated madina.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Three oh, Boy i'm probably gonna piss off some friends,

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 3>here But i'm gonna say way. Overrated we've talked about this,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 3>before you, know with some buddies on our, thread AND

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 3>i think THAT i would be IF i made the

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 3>list of the top golf courses In, CHICAGO i would

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 3>be surprised IF i Put madonna number three in the top.

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 3>THIRTY i JUST i it's, long it's perfect for a tour.

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 3>EVENT i, mean it's, long it's, hard it's. BIG i

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 3>enjoy playing. IT I i just to, me it's. NOT i,

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 3>mean it's just it's a little, boring the you, know the.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Whole some of the holes kind of seem. Similar obviously

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.719
<v Speaker 3>there's some really good. Holes And i'm probably underselling it

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 3>just because it is so. Overrated BUT i Just i've

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>never been a fan of, it to be, Honest so

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 3>just one man's opinion.

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>In terms of, rankings it's way.

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Overrated in terms of like public, APPEAL i feel like

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>The internet has been so like The internet era has

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>ruined my. Medina like people see it and they just you,

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>know AND i see pictures like that's like when people

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>can start freely communicating about courses like across the internet With,

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 1>twitter like it's it's ruined courses like my, Media like

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Baltist ral got the bad treatment, Too but, LIKE i,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>mean the design so, Flawed LIKE i Mean Rees jones

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>puts like bunkers on outside of the dog lakes all day.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Long out. There there's too many.

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Trees the greens are all reached out with all these

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>segments and all this. Stuff but LIKE i go back

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>to the land and the land is so frickin good

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that it's like almost like impossible to build a really

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>bad golf course. There like it's still it's a mediocre

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>golf course right, now but the land is so good

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that it could be.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 2>SPECTACULAR i say, underrated because if you.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Actually renovated it and got a very good architect in

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 1>there that was you, know that knew how to build

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>strategic golf holes like that place would be it might

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>be top three or four In.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Chicago, yeah trees is a major issue out. There there's

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 3>probably twelve times too many trees as there should.

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Be, yeah they got out rid of all the all

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the wrong trees and kept like those Big they have

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>so many big oaks that are just awesome trees THAT i.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Mean it Was sergiore is a good? Tree on is

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 3>it really?

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Well reese redid the, hole oh right down the tree

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and he raised that.

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Green that green is still freaking high up.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 3>There when did he do? That i'm trying to think

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 3>WHEN i played there maybe two years ago that was gone.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Then so there's a tree that looks like you can

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>go there and look at the tree and you think

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the, tree but.

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>It's not actually the, tree fake. Tree it was.

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>INTERESTING i busted a drive there the other day AND

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>i THINK i was right by Where sergio hit his,

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>tree which is kind of, amazing given like the technology

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>advances since that the, championship like how far it used

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to hit the ball In.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Tiger so, yeah THAT i Think.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>MADINA i think madna is is just beaten up so

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>much that it might actually be. Underrated And i'm one

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of the people that beat it.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Up it sounds like a good answer for the. People all,

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 3>right let's Go Nate mauri over Under Wesley.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Bryant last last questions From. Nate that's a good, one

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>fired him.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Off, yeah over Under Wesley bryant's ninety minute round of sixty,

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 3>nine which was.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Nice it is. NICE i.

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Think it's overrated, though just because of what, again what

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the internet does to things like.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 3>This i'm cool with that, answer all. Right how about

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>another one From? Nate what are the three worst best

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 3>courses on? Tour which courses would you substitute?

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>In three best would be probably.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's, SEE i mean Like ironomic next, year it's got

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:43.239
<v Speaker 1>to be in.

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 3>There ironomic is so.

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Good riviera every single year has to be one of.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Those and THEN i would probably, say, Well, Trinity i'm

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really interested to See Trinity forrest In dallas next.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Year new.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>HOST i don't know Who i'd say for the Third

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>i'd PROBABLY i Mean Pebble, beach but they don't do

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the full, hosting you, know, Right i'd still Say Pebble.

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Beach what do you.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>THINK i can't Leave pebble off. There And ironomic is

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 3>one of the best Courses i've ever. Played that course

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 3>is amazing and it's gotten.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>BETTER i think we.

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Did a trip there and we Played Pine valley the

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.959
<v Speaker 3>day after we Played. Ironomic and not to say That

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 3>ironomic was better Than Pine, valley but we were, like,

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>wow those. Courses they're not they're not similar by any,

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>means but in terms of how we rated, them we're, Like,

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 3>wow this courses are not very far. Off we had

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>no idea anything About. Ironomic we got to.

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Do a trip To philly before.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>THAT bmw next, year get a get a Little ironomic

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>in AND i, mean.

0:31:58.360 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>There's so many good golf courses in.

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Phil so many it's.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Crazy, ACTUALLY i spent two weeks there last year AND

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>i feel LIKE i just scratched the.

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 3>SURFACE i haven't Played mary And i'd love. To one

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>are the worst, courses the worst.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Courses this one that jumps to the top of my

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>mind THAT i kind of lit up this this year

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Is Glenn. ABBEY i, mean it's hardly one of the

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>best one hundred golf courses in all Of. CANADA i

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think it would, be and you look at, it

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it favors the long hitter tremendously out.

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>There if you don't, vomit you have no. Chance and.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>You, know you look at what just happened to The Canadian.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>OPEN i mean it used to be a, major major,

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.959
<v Speaker 1>event AND i Mean Jack, nicholas it was one of

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>his Like musco tos every. Year and what's happened to

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it is it has become like a bottom tier event

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>since you, know the slide started when they started going

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>To Glenn. ABBEY i think you look at good golf

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>courses usually promote good fields Like. Riviera Obviously la has

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a part of, that but it has the best non,

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>major NON wgc field year and year, out and it's

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the best golf. Course so that's a quick fix for

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>The Canadian. Open AND i know everybody will say they

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>don't make any money if they go somewhere, Else but

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not like a you can't just like go somewhere

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>good one year and have all of your problems. Fixed

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>if you continually play good, courses it'll get.

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Fixed.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>FIRESTONE i Hate. FIRESTONE i know good players win.

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>There but it just it's.

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Thoughtless it's you, know hit it straight and hit it,

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>close like there's a never.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Any like in what holes can you remember At?

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Firestone like you remember them Because tiger played eighteen in

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the dark and you remember, Sixteen but could you tell

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>me what hole seven At firestone? Is and they've been

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>playing there for how many years? Straight and it's a

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>big time. Event and THEN i gotta go with The

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>jones family. Legacy here THE Rtj trail For barbasol all.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Over The joneses. Today, yeah tough.

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Day for The.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Jones BUT i would Say i'd say that just because

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>like why are they playing In alabama In? August like

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the course rally isn't is, Okay but the fact that

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>you're playing a golf tournament In alabama In august is

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>asking for many rain delays and like extremely soft conditions

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and players just like with tons of swamp.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Ass the one.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Course you're leaving off that list IS tpc At. Scottsdale

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 3>that course is. AWFUL i you, KNOW i Maybe i'm

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 3>salty because it's like a few hundred bucks to play

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>and you get out there and like the first fourteen,

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Holes you're, like what the hell is? This LIKE i

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 3>could have just you, know played the hotel course or

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 3>any course you know In. Arizona that's literally so. BORING

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 3>I i the fifteen through eighteen are, cool BUT i

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 3>think you're so bitter that you've played the first fourteen

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 3>holes by the time you get to, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 3>eighteen you don't get to enjoy.

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>IT i got a lot of heat even from one

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>of our our, friends The Angry, golfer WHEN i said

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>That SCOTTSDALE Tpc scottsdale is a below average course in

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a city full of average golf.

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Courses, YEAH i think you're you're painting that in a positive.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>PICTURE i think you, said Like scottsdale is one of

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 3>the worst golf cities in the, country and then said

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 3>Like memphis was.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 2>BETTER i didn't Say, memphis you.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Didn't but your argument About scottsdale was. Good but excuse

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 3>me ABOUT tpc At. Scottsdale BUT i do think there's

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 3>some awesome golf courses in The scottsdale. AREA i need to.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.959
<v Speaker 3>Go it just might be a little overrated because there's

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 3>so many and people are, like, Oh scottsdale Golf. Mecca

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 3>it's definitely not, that but it's not. TERRIBLE i don't THINK.

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I always judge golf cities like.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 1>How many courses would you fly there to? Play and,

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like from What i've, BEEN i haven't.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Played enough golf In. SCOTTSIALE i have to go this.

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>WINTER i think that's.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Something have you played desert for?

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Us?

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 3>No so that course is, Amazing but that's a northern golf.

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Course that's it's it's just kind of place in the,

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 3>desert but it is a north it's kind of a

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 3>northern field to. It but they had some really good golf.

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Courses Whisper rock is like a cool experience more so

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>than being a great golf.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Course oh. TOTALLY I i would give the golf course

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 3>like a. FIVE i don't even really remember many of

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 3>the holes. There BUT i remember the milkshakes and the

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 3>hanging out inside watch AND i think it WAS ncaa

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 3>tournament last time we were. There that was a, Blast

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>but the golf course was kind of.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Eh SO i.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Always judge it on like where in the city WOULD

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>i like you call me up and, say, Hey i'm playing?

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Here like where WOULD i hop on a plane no

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>question to ask to go? Play and you, Know chicago

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Has Chicago golf for, akers Like columbus Has Mirfield.

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Village i'd probably.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Get in a car to Drive, Seota and but like

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>the golf, club i'd get you, know get in a

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.959
<v Speaker 1>plane and go fly their. Play Like San francisco Has

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:19.320
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco Golf. Club you know they, Have i'd probably

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>go Play Cal. Club also The Olympic club, Obviously so

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>like these, CITIES la has three, Courses i'd get a

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>get on a plane to go. Play Like that's my

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>point is like there isn't one In scottsdale Where i'd be, like,

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>yeah you know, What i'll drop.

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Everything and go.

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Play, PENNSYLVANIA i mean Like, Philly pittsburgh Has New, York,

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Boston i'll have.

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Them, NO i MEAN i think MY i agree with

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 3>you that it's not very top have, you but it's

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 3>a little deeper.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Here here's a good question From Joe. Ess best betting

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>game with play a varying skill?

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 3>LEVEL i would say the banker game would be the

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.760
<v Speaker 3>best because you can you can do it with guys

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 3>who are twenty handicaps plus, fives and you can. Win you,

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 3>know you can bet as much as you want or

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 3>as little as we. Want brief. Synopsis so you go

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 3>to a, hole Say i'm the guy that hold the

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 3>first putt with the lowest. Score is the banker on

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 3>the next, Hole so Say i'm the. BANKER i, say,

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 3>okay this soul's worth forty bucks and, maximum and you're

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 3>you and me are playing straight, up and you, say,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay i'll take all forty of. It and then our

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 3>buddies getting you, know eight, shots and he gets a

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 3>shot or you want twenty of, it, say and my

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 3>buddy's getting a shot off. Me he wants all. Forty

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 3>and then you, know one of our other buddies is

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 3>just tagging along for, fun and he just, says, Okay

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 3>i'll just play it for. Ten and then you just

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 3>play the whole individual me against you and me against

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 3>the other, guy and me against the other. Guy that's

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of a brief. Synopsis but it's good for all

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 3>levels of betting and all skill.

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Levels you.

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Know WHAT i really like about that game is if

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you play, well you're gonna.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Win m.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Hm like it's very, simple like if you play if

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you shoot sixty, eight you're gonna. Win you, know if

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you play a great, round if you're a if you're

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a twelve handicap and shoot, eighty you're gonna. Win like,

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Right it's not going to be where like one, hole

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>like can just railroad you and you, could you, know

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you make your only bogie on a hole and somebody

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>else makes an eagle and you lose five hundred points

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's just.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Like, WELL i just you.

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Know so that's one THING i love about that. GAME

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>i think it's good for different skill. Levels we played

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>it with a not that vast but a pretty Vast.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah we played it with a good group of, guys diverse. Handicaps,

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i would agree with.

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>THAT i Think, BANKER i Think wolf is decent. IT

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 2>i think it Obviously Scotch in Like, vegas skew to

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the better.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Player, yeah that game is all about, PROCs so you

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 3>don't want to get in that game with you, know

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 3>if you're a high, handicapper you, can't you. Can't you

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 3>don't want to get in that game with low.

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Handicappers and it's, LIKE i think the TRADITIONAL nasa like

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>actually skews like a match Play nasha skews to the

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>higher handicap having an advantage because totally because as a lower,

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>handicap your, variant it's, like you, know you don't make

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>as many you don't make many doubles or, triples and

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a fifteen handicap can make nine, pars but he could

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>make you, know three, triples and those three triples you

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>can make birdie and you know you pick up twelve

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>shots on those three, holes but you really only win three.

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Holes so, yeah it's a story for a different. Day

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 3>But i've always felt like member guests and you, know

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 3>stuff like, that where it's usually best ball match, play

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 3>it should not be even close to one hundred, percent

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 3>probably not even eighty percent your. Handicamp it should be like.

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Sixty but, YEAH i think like sixty or fifty it should.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Be but that's both of us have an extremely biased

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>perspective on the.

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Subject So. Philip why Did leishman get two.

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Trophies that's because there's A bmw trophy and A Western open.

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Trophy so, like you, know THE wga runs The Western

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>western m and it became THE, bmw or The Western

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>open and became THE, bmw and you, know The Western

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>open was one of the most historic.

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Events it's kind of a, shame, ACTUALLY i. Uh but

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the better question here is. Overrated Underrated guys who play

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 2>with no.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 3>HATS i think overrated because you're probably not that intelligent

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 3>because with you, know, melanoma and you spend so much

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 3>time on the you, know in the, sun not wearing

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 3>a hat is extremely dangerous and you're just not not

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>intelligent if. YOU i, mean if it's one, thing if

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 3>it's like once every two, weeks but once every three,

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 3>weeks it's still not. Good but if you're out there

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 3>regularly playing golf without a, hat you gotta you gotta fix.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 3>That you gotta figure it.

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Out sounds like you should get in with the big safari.

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 3>HAT i should the long sleeve. SHIRT i probably will.

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 3>BE i think that's what people do In florida after

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 3>they've been here for like ten. Years i'll be wearing

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 3>like long underwear and on my. Legs i'm on my,

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Face i'm.

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Gonna go underrated on the no Hat and it's just

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i admire them not selling out and earning the

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>extra whatever couple hundred thousand or you, know if it

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>if it's a high profile player millions of dollars from

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a sponsor by.

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Foregoing the number one spot on the.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Golfer all, right how About BLAKE j wants to know

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 3>your thoughts on the New Dana Fry corse At Arcadia.

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Buffs, WELL i haven't seen it, yet so hard to

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 2>say what my thoughts.

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>ARE i like the idea of getting golfers more exposed

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 1>to the kind Of rainer McDonald's style of golf in

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a public.

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Setting there just aren't many of. Them it'll be interesting

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>to see how it's.

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>EXECUTED i think the tough thing with doing that style

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of golf is Where rainer was really great was like

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in these small little. Intricacies you, know it's like these

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>small little internal contours and greens where if you miss the,

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>green you, know if you're pin high, right not only

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>do you have slope right to, left but there's usually

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>these little tiny spines that you have to put over

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that all of a sudden make speed control. IMPOSSIBLE i

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 1>think that is the genius Of. Rayner that will be

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>very difficult.

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 2>To, match But i'm excited to see. IT i Am.

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Dave, westler WHO i had on the pod did a

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>great job doing a course in a similar manner from

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>like a nothing muni In Mount prospect where you have

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>these wild template, greens and you know there's something that he.

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Faced there was backlash from the public because they just

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>they didn't understand. It so a lot of people, think

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>like these are goofy, greens but these Are the whole

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>premise was like build a court a public course In

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>chicago where you can see the architecture you see at

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Short akers In chicago golf the two best golf courses

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>in the.

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 2>City and that leads us, sorry go, ahead, no, no go.

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Ahead that leads us to the question here About Remount

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.879
<v Speaker 3>Prospect Golf club Versus. Rabislow what are your top five

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 3>public courses In chicago considering the quality of, course, cost

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 3>distance from the, city et.

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Cetera so if you if you do the, COST i

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>think this is the only way you can really judge

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>like golf and cities is when you do quality of,

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>course condition and the, costs because you, know if you

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>play a, course if you want a course this great,

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>condition like you can tell.

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Hey if you want great, conditioning you should.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Go play the Gun. Club BUT i don't think it's

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near the best public golf course in the. City

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>WHAT i would say, Is i'd probably Go ravislow is

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:34.879
<v Speaker 1>my favorite.

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Place to go. Play it's like A Donald ross.

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Course great. Greens unfortunately they can't keep the. Greens this

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>is the other problem with public golf, is like those old,

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>greens they can't keep fast in a public setting because

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the rounds would just take too. Long guys would be

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>putting balls off the green all. Day whereas a country

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>club you could do that because people are more used

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to the green. Speed So i'd Say rabbits slow is

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>my number. One i'd Go Mount, prospect all. Right i'd

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>go Probably Shepherd's crook number. Two it's way up In

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 1>zion so as, far but that's an awesome golf. Course

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no, range it's built on a, landfill so it

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.280
<v Speaker 1>can kind of smell, sometimes but it's a really good golf.

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Course and then i'd GO.

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I go number, Three mount prospect number Four highlands Of,

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>elgin AND i don't know what my number five would.

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Be what about. YOU i like that.

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 3>List i'd probably Put Pine meadow in that.

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>List Pine meadow's.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 3>COOL i like that golf. COURSE i, MEAN i don't

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 3>know how architecturally sound it, is but as far as

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 3>a public, COURSE i, mean it's tough and it's. SOLID

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 3>i DON'T i haven't played there in, years BUT i

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 3>want to say it's probably around one hundred bucks something like.

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>That it's a good.

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Deal so the interesting thing About Pine meadow that is

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that it was originally designed By William, flynn the guy

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that Designed Shannacak.

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Hills, JESUS i did not know that.

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Catance at the country. CLUB i mean it Was integral

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And marion And Pine. Valley this guy came To Lake

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>forest to build a state for this guy Named Albert,

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>laskar and it was called Mill Road Farms Golf. CLUB

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>i THINK i think that was the, name but, anyways

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it was apparently this golf course in Lake. Forest he

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Built Pine. Metal at the same, time this golf course

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>In Lake forest was The oakmont of The, midwest and

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.479
<v Speaker 1>there was an ongoing bet That laskar had with any

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 1>tour professional that they couldn't come and break park and

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>he would give him a thousand bucks if they broke

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>part the. Course AND i think only one guy did it.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Ever but Then laskar died and it became a housing,

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 1>development and you, Know Lake forest lost probably the best

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>golf course in the, town in the. City maybe the

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.280
<v Speaker 1>city probably wouldn't have been better Than Chicago.

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Golf but sounds Like Jerry, rick she has a standing

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 3>standing offer to try to break part rich haarvis from the.

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Tips, yeah it's probably a little bit different type test

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of golf in terms of what it. Demands let's, See,

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>uh is there A Golden age course not in the US,

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Ga rhoda for events that AREN'T Us, open Mid, am

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>all those all the am events that should Be.

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, what why don't you take that one that

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 3>seems right up your?

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 2>ALLEY i feel like the u S ga gets. There

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of pick of the.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Litter BUT i don't know the last, time Like San

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Francisco Golf club had, something AND.

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that would be a great golf.

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Course obviously you've got another, one might be Like peachtree

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 1>hasn't ever really had.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 2>ANYTHING i don't.

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:57.439
<v Speaker 1>SEE i think these clubs probably aren't interested in hosting, them,

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Right so then but those AND i think Like San

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Francisco Golf, club given its lack of, distance would you'd

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have to have like a mid am at the best

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>course That i've played this, year not Named Chicago Golf

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>club Or Fisher's island is a place Called, moraine and

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it's In, Dayton.

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Ohio it's neighbors WITH.

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:22.839
<v Speaker 1>NCR i played a US am qualifier, there so it's

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>not THE usga run. Event it's a it's a Local

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Golf association run. Event and only one guy broke part

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>over the two, rounds and it was it wasn't like

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.479
<v Speaker 1>it was like abnormally windy or bad.

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Conditions it was a good day to play.

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Golf SO i would Say moraine should be hosting. Something

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it should host like A Senior, open a senior, players

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 1>like if the tour wanted to go, there or it

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:54.720
<v Speaker 1>could be like an awesome US am host WITH ncr

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>is the other, course or a mid am course with AN.

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Ncr they literally are they butt up against each, Other

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>so that could be a really great kind of. Combo

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>here's a good. One overrated underrated practice.

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 3>Swings i'm gonna say. OVERRATED I i only say that

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 3>BECAUSE i think it's such a perceived notion that you

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 3>have to have this two, swing three swing. Routine and

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 3>there's been times Where i've struggled playing And i'll switch

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 3>up my, ROUTINE i, mean and maybe go no practice

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 3>swings and you play fine for a little. Bit SO i,

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 3>mean as long as you're you're, LOOSE i mean it.

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Depends if you're rehearsing, something you, know like trying to

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 3>get under it or come over, it whatever you whatever you're,

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 3>rehearsing then practice swings actually. Help but if you're swinging

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 3>it pretty, Well i'm not really. SURE i, mean what

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 3>they do for you mm.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Hmm some people say that your best swing would be

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>your first wing because it's.

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 3>An.

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Instinctual i'd say, overrated not. Necessary here's another good one for.

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:12.720
<v Speaker 1>You should The Walker cup reserve a spot for midam,

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>or a senior am or and a senior.

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 3>AM I i THINK i said this on the last,

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 3>one but, NO i don't think. SO i, MEAN i

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 3>think it should be the twelve or how many ten

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 3>or twelve ten?

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 2>TEN i should be it should expand to twelve, though.

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 3>If you expanded to. TWELVE i think you, could you,

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 3>know you'd have some wiggle room. There BUT i think

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.400
<v Speaker 3>if it's, TEN i think. NEITHER i think you should

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:41.479
<v Speaker 3>just have the ten best. Players and LIKE i said

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.919
<v Speaker 3>it at the on the last, ONE i hope it's six.

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Midam's but you, know if it's, not it's. Not it

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 3>should be the ten best players that play in.

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 2>IT i, agree it's not like. THEY i.

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Guess you, know this year The President's cup Took, phil

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>which was kind of like taking a.

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Midam he probably, didn't.

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah the, team let's, see we'll say.

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Overrated. Underrated Midwest Fall golf From. Andy, okay so.

0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 3>UNDERRATED i Love Midwest fall. Golf i'm trying to figure

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 3>out a. Way i'm trying to figure out a few

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 3>dates In october to come up north and play x

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 3>more and all the good golf courses that are so

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:26.880
<v Speaker 3>it's when it's firm and fast Up. North typically the

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 3>the courses are just so. Good it's my favorite time of.

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:33.240
<v Speaker 3>Year there's nothing to be better than playing like a

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 3>eight o'clock round on A saturday And, sunday you, know eating,

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 3>lunch going home and just watching football. Day it's like

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 3>a dream.

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Day, yeah especially when it's the weather where like you're

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 1>wearing pants AND i pull over when you tee off

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and then buy like by eight your pants and a

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>shirt and it's just like that perfect. Weather it's a little,

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:54.240
<v Speaker 1>brisk and the balls balls, running the greens are flying

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 1>because they don't have to worry about all the diseases

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 1>getting in, there like the humidity.

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Over there's no way it could be possibly. Overrated.

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Agreed what's the craziest confrontation you've ever witnessed on the

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 1>golf course or?

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 3>HALT i saw this. Question it reminded me of one.

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 3>THING i was playing a high school match with my Buddy.

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Andrew we were PLAYING i GUESS i shouldn't say what,

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 3>school so we're what school we were playing, against but

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 3>we were both playing For New, trier and one of

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:31.320
<v Speaker 3>the guys we're playing against is clearly moving his marker,

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 3>up like every time he puts it, down he moves

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 3>it up like literally like six inches to a. FOOT i,

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 3>mean we would turn around talk to each other and

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 3>he'd be hate to have like a tap in instead

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 3>of a three. Footer we're, like what the hell is going?

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 3>On so that it's, Like, okay you, Know i'll you,

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Know i'm gonna keep an eye on, them blah blah.

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Blah So i'm not really paying attention on like the seventh.

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 3>POLE i look over And vitt goes up to this

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 3>kid and he, goes, LISTEN i saw you move that.

0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Marker i'm not gonna call you on, it but if

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 3>you do it, again And i'm gonna beat the fuck

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 3>out of, You, like oh my, god and the kid

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 3>got ghost. White literally MADE i think double or triple

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 3>on eight and double or triple on nine after being

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 3>like even. Par it was the craziest Thing i've. Seen

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 3>he was so, flustered it was. Amazing, yes it's the

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 3>high school high school. Golf lots of high school golf

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:24.319
<v Speaker 3>can get.

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.919
<v Speaker 2>Crazy, yeah mine would.

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>BE i was playing at my home club AND i

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>HIT i sprayed.

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:38.839
<v Speaker 2>ONE i was actually somebody else sprayed one into our fair,

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 2>away AND i pointed.

0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>OUT i was, like here's your, ball and the guy

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like drives up with his cart and he like immediately

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>starts like getting ready to hit the, shot And i'm

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.319
<v Speaker 1>walking like directly in front of, him and like all

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.959
<v Speaker 1>of a, Sudden i'm like standing right in his crosshairs

0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 1>And i'm, like.

0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Holy, shit this guy's gonna hit the.

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Ball AND i start running with my bag on my

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 1>shoulders and.

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:06.720
<v Speaker 2>He hit he.

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Chunks, it and he was like this big, guy he

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 1>chunks this and it like goes like you, know like

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 1>right in like thirty.

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Yards And i'm, like holy. Shit AND i AND i

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.359
<v Speaker 2>said to, HIM i was, like, dude you gotta wait

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 2>till people get out of your.

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Way and he, goes you THOUGHT i was gonna hit,

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:26.240
<v Speaker 1>you and LIKE i was pretty pissed. Off SO i, said,

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 1>well with a swing like, that you you would never.

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Know and, UH i mean this guy got like enraged

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was was he. Hammered, No, no he's this

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 1>big guy he had he was tatted up and and

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 1>my BUDDY i was playing with, like, dude like why

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>why did you say that to?

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Him but, yeah he got really. Mad it was it

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:47.399
<v Speaker 2>WAS i actually kind of.

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Was scared about getting my ass kicked on a golf,

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>course WHICH i didn't.

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Think whatever.

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Happened how about overrated underrated wedge stamps And adirondack.

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 2>CHAIRS i think they're both.

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 1>OVERRATED i have LIKE i had a buddy give me

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Some wilson wedges and they have my initials on, them

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's, cool but LIKE i don't get in on

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>like the, designs like a cool putter cover doesn't get me,

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:21.840
<v Speaker 1>going or A i'm like kind.

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Of more of a.

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Minimalist and then the, CHAIRS i think, that like people

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>make such a big deal about them that they're. OVERRATED

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>i just naturally think things are overrated when people like.

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 3>THEM i say overrated wedge, stamps AND i guess underrated

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:41.760
<v Speaker 3>at around back chairs BECAUSE i like saying at around

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 3>deck they are.

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Cool Like Arcadia bluffs has a bunch of them that

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:48.879
<v Speaker 1>on top of the bluff and they look out over

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the lake like that's fucking.

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Awesome i'm in on, that.

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 3>But you're in on.

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 2>That, yeah just in, general maybe out on. IT i

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're that comfortable.

0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Either they're, okay, yeah you're, right they're. Not like it's

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Not god's gifts to.

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Comfort they look, cool but you, KNOW I i have

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 1>this debate with my wife all the, time like they look,

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Cool like this looks, cool but it's not, Comfortable like

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 1>that's the main point of a.

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Chair, right.

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 3>That's a good that's a good spousal.

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Argument, yeah let's see what else we?

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Have, okay here here from sixteen, pars it looks like

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he had a he had an interesting uh.

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Experience in his Mid aam.

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Qualifier he's downwind two seventy six pin two forty to

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 1>carry on the eighteenth over. Water it's a par five

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's a very windy, day and he's the second

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to last group with no live scoring and he's two.

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Over you, know with two qualifier, spots what would you?

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 3>DO I i don't know IF i have enough information.

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 3>THERE i think you need to. Know i'd like to know,

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 3>where you. KNOW i think he probably had, it hopefully

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.240
<v Speaker 3>a general idea of who was in the. Field and

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 3>it depends on where the wind. IS i think that

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 3>if you can hit it two, fifty you, hit you

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 3>go for. It but if if the two forty yardage

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 3>is right on the, BORDER i think you have to

0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 3>try to lay up and make birdie the other, way

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 3>because there's nothing worse Than, YEAH i did this in

0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 3>A monday qualifier for The Greater Milwaukee. OPEN I i

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 3>THINK i was three or four, under four, under maybe maybe,

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 3>FIVE i, Forget But i'm A monday qualifying And i'm

0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 3>on the eighteenth three AND i look at my buddy

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 3>who's cadding for, me And i'm, like, DUDE i have

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 3>like a thirty footer. Downhill i'm, like, dude IF i

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 3>make this, Putt i'm going to play in a tour.

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Event he's like, yeah. Yeah So i'm, LIKE i ram

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 3>it ten feet, by you, Know i'm, like, oh, man come,

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 3>back miss the comebacker tap. In HAD i just two,

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 3>PUTTED i would have been in a. Playoff so you

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 3>never want. It you never want, to you, know count your.

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 3>CHICKENS i unless it's you can you can miss it

0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 3>and hit it two, FORTY i would probably lay. Up.

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i think in, general thinking numbers is the complete

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:08.560
<v Speaker 1>wrong way to play a. Qualifier something that's helped me

0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 1>recently with qualifiers is THAT i don't think about my.

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>SCORE i just simply say to, myself AM i playing?

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Well and If i'm playing, well no matter what my score,

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Is i'm probably going to be very close or like you,

0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>know if it's at state, Level i'm going to get.

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>In at A usga, Level i'm probably going to be somewhat,

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>close AND i just need some putts to go.

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:35.959
<v Speaker 2>In so because like you don't know.

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:38.200
<v Speaker 1>What the number is ever going to be and even

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the number is just wasting your time and

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 1>taking you out of what the psychologists say is.

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 2>The, moment you.

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Know SO i would say that the first Question i'd

0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>ask myself, is especially like on a wendy, day AM

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 1>i playing very?

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Well if you're playing very, well you're probably in a good.

0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Spot LIKE i, think think back to like The Lakeshore midam,

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.880
<v Speaker 1>thing like WHERE i played really well last year in

1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 1>This midham thing AND i shot seventy on a really,

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 1>tough windy, Day LIKE i was walking off that. COURSE

1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>i would never think like on a regular day like

1:00:15.080 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 1>seventy is going to be the medalist ends up being

1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the medalist because it was a tough. Day BUT i

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:23.120
<v Speaker 1>KNEW i played great. Golf so it's like a number

1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:29.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really. Matter it matters how you, play, RIGHT i sixteen?

1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Parts please tweet us and let us know what you.

1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Did i'm curious to see how that. Ended let's get.

1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:41.400
<v Speaker 2>A couple more and we'll get out of. Here we

1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:45.680
<v Speaker 2>touched on the. Ball let's do.

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<v Speaker 1>How about we say, overrated underrated playing tournament golf from

1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:57.520
<v Speaker 1>some guy Named, Tony.

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Well some guy Named. TONY i think playing tournament. GOLF

1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:06.480
<v Speaker 3>i want to SAY i think. Underrated it's really fun to,

1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 3>compete and not necessarily against other, people but it's fun

1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:14.760
<v Speaker 3>to see how like you mentally handle. SITUATIONS i think

1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 3>it's beneficial, too you, know as a, trader it's beneficial

1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:20.760
<v Speaker 3>to me to know HOW i react to certain things

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:24.280
<v Speaker 3>and CAN i you, know keep cool and calm when

1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:26.600
<v Speaker 3>things aren't going. Right SO i think IT'S i think it's.

1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 3>UNDERRATED i think it has value to other parts of your.

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.520
<v Speaker 3>LIFE i think that you, know you make a lot

1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:36.080
<v Speaker 3>of good, friends So i'm going to say.

1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Underrated, YEAH i think underrated.

1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:41.840
<v Speaker 1>TOO i think it obviously helps your your golf. GAME

1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:45.000
<v Speaker 1>i actually have like a problem now WHERE i don't

1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:48.720
<v Speaker 1>play as well casual as a casual golfer AS i

1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:53.480
<v Speaker 1>do as a tournament golfer BECAUSE i just don't. Focus

1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:56.280
<v Speaker 1>but that's. Fine i'm not out there playing on A

1:01:56.280 --> 1:02:00.320
<v Speaker 1>saturday morning to like grind out a, score, right more

1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 1>so to have. FUN i THINK i completely agree with

1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:06.800
<v Speaker 1>helping other parts of your. Life LIKE i used to

1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:08.520
<v Speaker 1>be in sales.

1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:11.200
<v Speaker 2>And just like being, calm like that's the biggest, thing you.

1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:13.440
<v Speaker 1>KNOW i used to run a little hot on the

1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:18.760
<v Speaker 1>golf course and and, NOW i mean you eventually realize

1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't really, matter but it helps you with

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 1>other aspects of your, life like you, know you have

1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to you have to stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool ride's discipline. TOO i, MEAN i know that you're

1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.360
<v Speaker 3>probably not going to have fourteen beers with a nine

1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:35.160
<v Speaker 3>am t time in a tournament the next, day so you,

1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:36.480
<v Speaker 3>know you got to go to bed early on A

1:02:36.480 --> 1:02:39.200
<v Speaker 3>friday night and get ready to play the next. Day

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<v Speaker 3>SO i think it helps. Discipline, yeah keep you. Discipline Ryan,

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<v Speaker 3>hennessy this is a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Question why doesn't the low am at The masters get

1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:50.120
<v Speaker 1>an invite to the next? Year is it because they

1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:54.240
<v Speaker 1>assume that he turns pro After obviously it's it's point

1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to big Stew.

1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious if they assume, that, obviously we don't. KNOW

1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:03.200
<v Speaker 3>i guess they probably, be DO i think they. Should

1:03:03.800 --> 1:03:08.280
<v Speaker 3>they're very, obviously very pro, amateur AND i think they

1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.120
<v Speaker 3>could put a caveat in there that the low am

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<v Speaker 3>gets an invite next, year provided he's still an. Am

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<v Speaker 3>that would be interesting because it must be such a

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<v Speaker 3>cool experience that guys might even hold off on turning.

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<v Speaker 3>PRO i wonder if that would you, know it's just you,

1:03:23.760 --> 1:03:26.240
<v Speaker 3>know you play well on the you know you're low,

1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:28.400
<v Speaker 3>am that's. Fine you play well the next year in The.

1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Masters you, know you could make millions in sponsor money

1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:36.360
<v Speaker 3>versus you, know grinding out a year on you, know

1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:38.600
<v Speaker 3>the mini. Tours BUT i Think i'm all for. THAT

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<v Speaker 3>i think the low am should get an invite the following.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, YEAH i.

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<v Speaker 1>AGREE i don't think a lot of people would stay pro.

1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:47.800
<v Speaker 1>LIKE i think it's just cool for a guy Like.

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<v Speaker 1>HAGASTAD i, mean obviously he, uh nobody expected him to

1:03:53.880 --> 1:03:57.520
<v Speaker 1>be the low am At augusta and he played great

1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:01.439
<v Speaker 1>golf for four days and the act that he is still,

1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Amateur like why wouldn't you get? That and it would

1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.800
<v Speaker 1>be for like cool, Parents like obviously THE usam champ

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<v Speaker 1>gets to play with the Reigning masters champ and is

1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it THE Us open? Champ, yes and so like that's that's.

1:04:18.640 --> 1:04:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Cool but then you could have like the low am

1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:25.480
<v Speaker 1>gets to play with like THE usm runner up and somebody.

1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Else so maybe may you do THE usm runner up

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<v Speaker 1>and The master's runner.

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<v Speaker 2>Up from the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Before that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, Sure So i'm in on, that all, right let's, uh.

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<v Speaker 3>How about this one From will, Says, Hi, ANDY i

1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:44.400
<v Speaker 3>had this discussion recently with a. Friend i'm about a

1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:47.320
<v Speaker 3>ten handicap in my mid. Twenties IF i quit my,

1:04:47.440 --> 1:04:49.720
<v Speaker 3>job hired one of the top swing instructors in the,

1:04:49.720 --> 1:04:52.520
<v Speaker 3>world and worked on my game full, time how good

1:04:52.560 --> 1:04:56.360
<v Speaker 3>COULD i reasonably expect to get IN x amount of

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<v Speaker 3>time a, year three, years five, years assume money isn't

1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:02.120
<v Speaker 3>a part as far as equipment and course access. Goes

1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:04.400
<v Speaker 3>COULD i expect to get to A Pga tour level

1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:06.800
<v Speaker 3>of Play Web tour level or just be really good

1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:09.360
<v Speaker 3>amateur at my? Club how much of golf do you

1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:13.120
<v Speaker 3>think is natural talent and ability versus dedication and. Practice

1:05:13.320 --> 1:05:15.680
<v Speaker 3>enjoy the, pod keep up the good, Work, Will.

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<v Speaker 1>All, right this is a great, question AND i think you,

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<v Speaker 1>KNOW i think some people have tried to do. This,

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<v Speaker 1>NOW i would say that you're never going to get

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<v Speaker 1>to A Web tour level or even.

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<v Speaker 2>Like A Latin American tour.

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<v Speaker 1>LEVEL i think your swing's going to have some flaws

1:05:36.800 --> 1:05:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that are going to take a very long time to.

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<v Speaker 1>Fix and the biggest thing is that you've missed out

1:05:42.640 --> 1:05:48.120
<v Speaker 1>on reps for end of fifteen years that those guys

1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:51.360
<v Speaker 1>have had the end not to mention all of the

1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:56.240
<v Speaker 1>tournament golf experience like that can't go, without you, know

1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:59.280
<v Speaker 1>like you can't under you can't overrate that.

1:05:59.720 --> 1:06:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Enough SO i would say that you're never going.

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<v Speaker 1>To get to a pro golf, level like of a

1:06:07.560 --> 1:06:12.479
<v Speaker 1>touring pro golf. LEVEL i think you would become very.

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<v Speaker 1>GOOD i think a year in you could probably expect

1:06:15.960 --> 1:06:20.120
<v Speaker 1>to be down to a four or five. HANDICAP i

1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:24.800
<v Speaker 1>think three years in you could be a good state

1:06:24.920 --> 1:06:28.000
<v Speaker 1>level amateur. Player AND i think five years in you

1:06:28.040 --> 1:06:32.240
<v Speaker 1>could begin, to you, know be playing in like you

1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:35.720
<v Speaker 1>have chances to play in like THE us mid m

1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:36.360
<v Speaker 1>at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Level what do.

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<v Speaker 3>You Think i'm going to, Say i'm. NOT i think

1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:44.840
<v Speaker 3>that you're right on THE Pga, Tour Web tour. LEVEL

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<v Speaker 3>i don't want to say it's zero, percent because there's

1:06:46.920 --> 1:06:49.560
<v Speaker 3>always a, chance BUT i would put it under one.

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<v Speaker 3>Percent you, know from a ten, HANDICAP i, think you,

1:06:52.640 --> 1:06:54.960
<v Speaker 3>know it's hard. ENOUGH i know some guys that have

1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:57.880
<v Speaker 3>been you, know plus one, scratches plus two's and tried

1:06:57.920 --> 1:07:00.880
<v Speaker 3>to do, that and you know they. Haven't they haven't

1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:03.560
<v Speaker 3>had much. Luck so coming from a ten without the

1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:08.080
<v Speaker 3>reps That andy mentioned makes it even. HARDER i think

1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:10.520
<v Speaker 3>in a, year golf's a hard, game AND i think

1:07:10.520 --> 1:07:12.680
<v Speaker 3>in a year you could go from ten to four

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<v Speaker 3>probably and then three years maybe four to, scratch and

1:07:19.040 --> 1:07:22.200
<v Speaker 3>five years you could probably be playing in state. TOURNAMENTS

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<v Speaker 3>i don't know if you could be at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of that because you are competing against guys that practice

1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:32.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot and they've been playing tournament golf for twenty thirty.

1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Years so it's. TOUGH i, mean it's definitely, doable, THOUGH

1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:38.080
<v Speaker 3>i mean it's. Not that's what's so great about golf

1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:40.280
<v Speaker 3>is you could you, could you, know be one of

1:07:40.280 --> 1:07:42.680
<v Speaker 3>the best senior ams in the world in twenty five.

1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Years there's no doubt about. That but in terms of

1:07:46.440 --> 1:07:49.600
<v Speaker 3>within the next five, YEARS i think that that's. Tough that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough so, yeah like a good, EXAMPLE i have a

1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:57.280
<v Speaker 1>buddy friend of the, pod his name is he played

1:07:57.320 --> 1:08:02.160
<v Speaker 1>minor league baseball his and he he's a buddy of

1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a buddy of, mine like from high. School they played

1:08:05.120 --> 1:08:07.000
<v Speaker 1>high school golf. Together so he was a high school.

1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Golfer he, was you, know once upon a, time a

1:08:10.600 --> 1:08:15.360
<v Speaker 1>two handicap in high, school and he played minor league,

1:08:15.400 --> 1:08:18.200
<v Speaker 1>baseball AND i remember playing with him right after he

1:08:18.320 --> 1:08:20.479
<v Speaker 1>quit minor league, baseball and he was like a six

1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:24.679
<v Speaker 1>or an eight, Handicap like he wasn't you, know, great

1:08:24.720 --> 1:08:28.439
<v Speaker 1>but he had like he murdered the. Ball and within

1:08:29.600 --> 1:08:32.760
<v Speaker 1>two years he was down to like a two or a,

1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:35.679
<v Speaker 1>one like back to his high school, level and within

1:08:36.360 --> 1:08:40.479
<v Speaker 1>four years he was at a plus handicap. Level but

1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:43.040
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy that was already had a lot

1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:45.799
<v Speaker 1>of the reps and the, skill but you, know had

1:08:46.160 --> 1:08:47.760
<v Speaker 1>fallen down because of a lack of.

1:08:47.800 --> 1:08:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Playing so and he has a ton of athletic, Ability

1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:52.759
<v Speaker 2>like he hits.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball like three hundred and fifty, Yards so THAT

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<v Speaker 1>i would, SAY i think YOU'RE i think you're right

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<v Speaker 1>five years that you probably a state competitor with like

1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:06.840
<v Speaker 1>a very outside chance to qualify for like A us

1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:11.120
<v Speaker 1>madan mm hm so.

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<v Speaker 3>So on this question that wasn't isn't is It Jason?

1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Bone did he do? This didn't he make a hole in?

1:09:16.640 --> 1:09:18.200
<v Speaker 3>One or is? That is? That What i'm thinking.

1:09:19.840 --> 1:09:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Is Scott.

1:09:20.240 --> 1:09:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Piercy didn't He, Well Scott, PIERCY i think was trying

1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:25.479
<v Speaker 1>to play pro golf and he won like a million

1:09:25.560 --> 1:09:26.280
<v Speaker 1>dollar thing In.

1:09:26.360 --> 1:09:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Vegas and that's how.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, No, yeah that's. DIFFERENT i Think Jason, bone If i'm,

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<v Speaker 3>RIGHT i know. SOMEBODY i think It's Ja, bone you,

1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:36.639
<v Speaker 3>know made a hole on, one basically quit his job

1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:39.840
<v Speaker 3>and worked real hard for a few years and made the.

1:09:39.920 --> 1:09:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Tour BUT i think he was obviously a great golfer.

1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Beforehand maybe. Not, maybe you, know the money was a

1:09:46.880 --> 1:09:49.280
<v Speaker 3>big hindrance to him getting at the next, level and

1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:50.800
<v Speaker 3>then once he got, it he was able to do.

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<v Speaker 3>It BUT i feel like that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, YEAH i think if if if you're like a

1:09:58.040 --> 1:10:01.800
<v Speaker 1>plus three and it happened like or a plus, two

1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:03.920
<v Speaker 1>like you've got a small.

1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:07.120
<v Speaker 3>Chance but it's still SO I i you, KNOW i have.

1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Buddies i'm thirty three, now SO i graduated eleven years.

1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:14.160
<v Speaker 3>AGO i have buddies THAT i graduated with still playing

1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:17.519
<v Speaker 3>mini tour golf and they are, playing you, know full

1:10:17.520 --> 1:10:22.720
<v Speaker 3>time for eleven, years great talented, players and still you,

1:10:22.760 --> 1:10:25.040
<v Speaker 3>know haven't played on The web OR Pga. Tour so

1:10:25.080 --> 1:10:27.880
<v Speaker 3>it's JUST i mean to expect to do that is

1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:30.120
<v Speaker 3>it's not in the realm of.

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<v Speaker 1>Happening that's like the hosibility nobody, understands, like you, know

1:10:34.160 --> 1:10:38.160
<v Speaker 1>LIKE I i played with a buddy of mine who's

1:10:38.560 --> 1:10:41.800
<v Speaker 1>played full time on the web this, year AND i

1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:45.479
<v Speaker 1>played really good golf and shot like seventy one that,

1:10:45.640 --> 1:10:49.719
<v Speaker 1>day and he made a double bogie and shot sixty

1:10:49.800 --> 1:10:54.760
<v Speaker 1>seven and who that? Means, Yeah and it's just, like you,

1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:57.439
<v Speaker 1>know LIKE i DON'T i don't have that in. THERE

1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:01.120
<v Speaker 1>i always say that they're like a Deep they're like

1:11:01.160 --> 1:11:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear Sub like they get under the water and

1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:07.479
<v Speaker 1>they can go as low as you they. Want And

1:11:07.560 --> 1:11:10.240
<v Speaker 1>i'm a, snorkeler so.

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<v Speaker 3>Just dabble a little.

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<v Speaker 2>BIT i can get down. There you.

1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Know SOMETIMES i spend a lot of time above, water

1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and then WHEN i get get below, water like IF

1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:22.000
<v Speaker 1>i get too far, under Like i'm getting water down

1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the snorkel tube And i'm coming.

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<v Speaker 3>UP i like that analogy. Snorkeler so all, RIGHT.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's, uh we got to most of. It

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for all the questions. Ones, yeah if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, know we do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty, regularly so if you want, to you can email

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<v Speaker 1>them to us, too if you have a long, question

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you just tweet at, Me i'm not very,

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<v Speaker 1>organized so so if you if you want to question

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<v Speaker 1>in the best way to do is. Email if if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not associated to a thread WHERE i where we

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<v Speaker 1>are ask for. Questions So, kyle thanks for coming.

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<v Speaker 3>On, yeah thanks for having.

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<v Speaker 2>Me good to have you. Back, hey it's glad you're

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<v Speaker 2>safe and sound down there In.

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<v Speaker 3>Florida and thanks all right, later see you, guys