1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: I miss the green. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 2: For example, I'm already upset. When I find my ball 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: in the bunker, I'm really upset. And when I find my. 4 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 3: Ball in a fried egg Friday egg, the dreaded Friday egg, 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 3: Frida egg, Frida egg, Frida egg bride egg. 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course. 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the 8 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: Friday Podcast. We've got Kyle, Nathan Draws and Fades is 9 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: back for another mailbag. 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Kyle, what's happening? 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: Not too much? What's happening with you? Why don't you 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: tell us about uh being stranded on a tropical island? 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean you had to you had to evacuate too, 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: So it's been a been a rough couple of weeks. 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't, can't mess around with weather. Yeah, but 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: congrats on the marriage, the nuptials. 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, married man new uh new era. So we uh. 18 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I think the storm missed our island by like one 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: hundred miles or so, So it was a lot closer 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: than I really knew. I looked one day like it 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: started getting windy, and then I looked at the at 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: the radar and saw that it was like just north 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: of us. I was like, well, I'm glad I didn't 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: know that it was even like that. 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 3: Close, No need to panic. 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then sure enough we were flying through Miami, 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: so an American and uh yeah that that flight I 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: guess still hasn't left now because of Maria hit Saint Lucia. 29 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have to get a passport from there. 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: I would have run out of money too, because if 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: I had to keep staying paying the all inclusive rate, 33 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: I would have been Uh, I would have been in trouble. 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: But it was. 35 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: It was a good, good little reset and uh good 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: to just chill out on a beach and I read 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: a bunch. Yeah, And I mean we just drank and 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: ate a lot too, So it was fun. 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: That's right up my alley. That sounds fun. 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: So what'd you do? How'd you would you tell us 41 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: about evacuating? 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Well, you just went up to Birmingham and hung out there. 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: I've been there before to play a couple of golf 44 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: tournaments at the country called Birmingham, so I knew it 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: was a nice place and it was fun to drive. 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: Sucked. 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like I was supposed to be a 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: nine hour drive. It took us seventeen there, seventeen back. 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: It was awful. But everything's all good down here, so 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: can't be can't complain. 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Everybody, uh, everybody evacuating. It's like a it'd be like 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's like driving in Chicago rush hour 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: traffic for nine hours. 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Well, dude, the craziest thing was the gas. I mean, 55 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: if you needed gas, it was literally an hour wait. 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: It was insane. I've never seen anything like it. And 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: what scared me more is you saw cars with like 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: four gas canisters like tied to the back of their 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: car so they didn't have to stop them. Like if 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: someone rearins them, that's going to be an explosion. Like 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: it's just such a just scary gas situation. 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: That doesn't sound very safe. 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: No, it's not safe at all. But they're like, oh, 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to wait an hour, so I'll just 65 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: tape it to my license plate. 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like a very Florida thing to do. 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Oh so Florida, like seventy four dead as Florida man 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: pours gasoline on his car. You did make it back 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: for the BMW, though, what do you think? 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get back, I get back on Friday morning 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: at a layover and in LaGuardia. 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: What an awful, awful place that is, my fiance. 73 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: We got there in the morning after we flew, we 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: flew into JFK and I said to my fiance, I go, 75 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, this is. 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: The worst airport in America. And she goes, why, I go, 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: it's absolutely awful and you know, the people and it 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: don't make it any better. 79 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, disgusting. 80 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: At like five thirty in the morning, we waited an 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: hour and a half for security and there was literally 82 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: forty people in front of us, and we walked through 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: and she goes, she goes, yeah, this is uh, this 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: is definitely the worst airport in America. 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: That's brutal. 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: But BMW was good. 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the well it's always amazing. I think we 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: talked about it in our group text. But hello, these 89 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: guys shoot, of course, is like I've never thought Conway 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: Farms is easy, and yet these guys shoot like sixty 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: four in their sleep. The conditions were, I mean, it 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: was pretty for the greens were really firm. I think 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: the big thing is that there's just no you know, 94 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: real they don't have to think out there and there's 95 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: nothing you know that really puts that, you know, question 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: in their head, and that's kind of I don't know, 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what you do to defend against these guys. 98 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: It's insane to me. I've probably played Conway, I don't know, 99 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: thirty to fifty times a lot, and I've never once 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: walked off the course thinking it was even medium difficulty. 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: I've always thought it's a tough course. You get through 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 3: like four or five six, and you know there's stretches 103 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: of holes where you're like, oh my god, just hold 104 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: on for dear life, don't make double. And you play well, 105 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: maybe you shoot sixty eight, sixty nine if you play 106 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: a great round for me at least, and these guys 107 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: shoot sixty two, like sixty three, and you know, if 108 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: I play bad there it's seventy six in a hurry, 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: you know, they're like, oh yeah, I played terrible, shot 110 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: seventy Like It's just it's it's insane, especially like to 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: see that on a golf course that I know and 112 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: that I think is hard. 113 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Well. 114 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: I was talking about it with a buddy of mine 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: and he's like, it's basically just what just Jason Day 116 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: did at Whistling. It's like you're right. I mean it's 117 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: it's not as good as Day's performance. But it's crazy 118 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: to put in perspective. These guys just annihilate these difficult courses. 119 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: It's insane. 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: I mean they just hit it so far and so. 121 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: Straight is I mean far and Straight's good? 122 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when I drive the ball well, I shoot well, 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: but that's like I shoot like sixty eights and sixty nine. 124 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: But when these guys drive the ball, well, it's sixty three, 125 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: sixty two, sixty four. And it's just crazy because you 126 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: know it's what is seventy three hundred yards ish seventy 127 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: four and seventy four hundred yards to these guys is 128 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: driver wedge fest. 129 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy. I never really, I've never thought of that. 130 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: I thought there is a long course, let alone, you 131 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: know medium. It's a long golf course to me, and 132 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: I mean I hit it, what two seventy five. It's 133 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: not like I hit it short. I mean I hit 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: it short by their standards. But to me, that's a 135 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: really long golf course, a lot of four irons, and 136 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: they're just hitting you know, flip wedges. 137 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a lot of guys. That's one of 138 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: the things I think is happening. And you see it 139 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: is with the ball in the way, how straight it goes? 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Now is you see the skilled guys, the guys that 141 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: don't necessarily hit it that far but are just phenomenal 142 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: with every other club in their bag. They're being phased 143 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: out of professional golf, like who you know you used 144 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: to have like Jim Fiurick, for example, and like Luke 145 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Donald was high in the rankings and. 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 3: Recently number one in the world. 147 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, number one in the world. I mean you go 148 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: back into the era like Nick Faldo is a perfect example, 149 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: like I didn't hit it anywhere, but he had maximum. 150 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: Control of his ball. He could hit it all the 151 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: shots like he wouldn't exist. 152 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: In today's game, Like if you don't hit a three 153 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards or three hundred yards see. 154 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a shame, really is I 155 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: think that it's it's you're eliminating, like you know, maybe 156 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: sixty percent of the people that are good enough to 157 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: be on tour or eliminated because of that, And I 158 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: just I don't know how to combat it. I know, 159 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: we have a question about the golf ball and all that. 160 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you can only make a golf course so tight, 161 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, what are you supposed to make 162 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: it a bowling alley with obi left ob right or 163 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: you know, water out of bounds. I'm not sure how 164 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: to fix it except probably the golf ball. I mean, 165 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: you you want to go play an eighty two hundred 166 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: yard US Open, I mean that sounds ridiculous. 167 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: And the just the fact that, like it's not a 168 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: sustainable model for a golf course. Like think about if 169 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: you have a nine thousand yard course, watering like and 170 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: maintenance of. 171 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: It, and oh yeah, the expenses go up dramatic. 172 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: And then that nine thousand yard course is used like 173 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: once every ten years. 174 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Right, It's it's just crazy. 175 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: It's I think the big thing is is that I 176 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: don't think narrow is the answer though, Like I know 177 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm always banging. 178 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah we're a big wif guy. But I know that's 179 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: why I was thinking. That's the only answer to me 180 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: besides the golf ball. And I know you're gonna hate that, but. 181 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: Well here's my thought process is, like you could create 182 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: a really wide course that could even be short and 183 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: let long hitters try and drive greens all day, like 184 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: it could be you could. 185 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: Have a lot of three hundred and fifty yard part fours. 186 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: But let the shorter guy because long players and short players, 187 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: everybody's going to miss the fairway. You know what kills 188 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: the short players is when they miss the fairway and 189 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: they're hitting fore iron out of thick rough right, and 190 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: long hitters are hitting wedge like you can hit a 191 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: wedge out of thick rough. You can't hit four iron 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: not a thick rough. And I think the width thing 193 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: is interesting because what it does is it allows you know, 194 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: the bombers are going to try and drive a lot 195 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: of those greens and they're trying to up there, and 196 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, especially if it can be firm and fast, 197 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: they'll get themselves in terrible spots where the shorter hitter 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: can play to strength, they can play to angles and 199 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: let their wedge game play, you know, right. So that's 200 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: kind of my thought process. I think about like the 201 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: Old Course, I mean, is a perfect example. You had 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Zach Johnson when that are and it's. 203 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 2: The widest golf course in the world and it's all 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: about angles. You don't ever. 205 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Really know what the exact right way to play a 206 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: golf hole is, and depending on whatever the pin is 207 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: it's dramatically different day to day. 208 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: It's the same. You see the same at Augusta. It's 209 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: a little bit less than it used to be. But 210 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: those are two of the best championship golf courses ever. 211 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: So if they're really wide, why to do people think 212 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: we need to go narrow? 213 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: Well, both of those courses, obviously St. Andrews is they're 214 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: not as fast, but they both have really difficult green complexes, 215 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: and that's always a defense that you know, we both 216 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: played some sixty five sixty six hundred yard golf courses 217 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: that can play really tough because because of the green complexes, 218 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: and you know if you shortside yourself you have zero chance. 219 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: And you know that those those golf courses are fun. 220 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: But and you know you could do that on tour 221 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: where you have the greens running twelve and a half 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: thirteen and a half and they're super undulating and tough 223 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: to putt. But you can't do that for the everyday golfer. 224 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: No, no, I agree, but that every day golfer isn't 225 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: having the problems of shooting sixty three at seventy four 226 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: golf course. In having an entire style of golf be 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: essentially extinct from the game. 228 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Let's get it. 229 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: Well, I guess what do you think about kind of 230 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: the FedEx playoffs? 231 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: While we're on the topic, do you do you think 232 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: it works? Obviously, football just kills it. 233 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like a huge golf fan, and if 234 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: I was in the country, I'd probably watch a lot 235 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: of football. I'd be flipping back and forth, like golf 236 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have my full equity. 237 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: It's just even if it was later in the season. 238 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm the same way I watched all football 239 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: the last last weekend, you know, obviously flipping back a 240 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: little bit, but I just it's the time that you know, 241 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: football is just starting. You're all excited. You know, the 242 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: Bears haven't don't have seven losses yet, so I'm trying 243 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: to watch that game and red zone they should for that, 244 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: I agree they should, but you know, I you know, 245 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: flipping back and with the with the red zone channel nowadays, 246 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: it's just it's the timing. I think if you put 247 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: it in you know, not that they would, but if 248 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: you put it, you know, more towards the middle, excuse me, 249 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: more towards the middle of the season, you'd get a 250 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: little more interest in it. I just the timing is terrible. 251 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: The formats okay, I mean it's it is what it is. 252 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: I don't think the format is terrible. You know, we've 253 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: talked about the other podcasts. We like formats better, but 254 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: you know it's okay. 255 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I like the idea of doing a 256 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: match play thing, but at the end of the day, 257 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: the problem is like ratings and like having two guys 258 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: on the golf course on Sunday of the season finale, 259 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Like that's not going to work. I see a lot 260 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: of people throw out the idea of that. I think 261 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: obviously moving before football will help a lot, because it's 262 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: like at the dull drums of sports. 263 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: But at the end of the. 264 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Day, I just don't think anybody, even the players, really care. 265 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: Like the top players don't really even care about the 266 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: FedEx Cup because like it's ten million dollars, that's great, 267 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: but like, you know, your your legacy is a player 268 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: is why people care so much about the majors. 269 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: And they. 270 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: Like nobody's going to be like, oh, he was a 271 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: two time FedEx Cup champion. 272 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: No, yeah, totally. I mean in other sports it's like, okay, 273 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: what has this guy done in the playoffs. You know, Kershaw, 274 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 3: his legacy's tarnish because he hasn't played well in the playoffs. 275 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: But you look at golf, you're like, what you know. 276 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: I don't even know the results from last year, and 277 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: I probably watched him, but I can tell you who 278 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: won all the majors last year. So the majors are 279 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: Golf's playoffs. This is some kind of I don't know, 280 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: money grab, but it is something I guess. Yeah, I'm not. 281 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan of it. I wish they 282 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: would do something else, but they probably won't. I'm sure 283 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: they should. They'll stick with it. 284 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that billion dollar check from FedEx is 285 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: gonna make him ride out this playoff. 286 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. 287 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: It's the other thing I saw when I was researching 288 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: for the newsletters. 289 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: I didn't I mean, I just I. 290 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: Didn't remember it. I guess that's part of the problem. 291 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: But I forgot that. The so you could win every 292 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: single tournament you played in for a year, and you 293 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: could get to the FedEx Cup finals and they diminish 294 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: your points to a set amount as number one m HM. 295 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: So it really doesn't matter. Like Jordan Speed, like the 296 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: fact that like that Jordan Spied could win the first 297 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: three events of the playoffs he didn't and then not 298 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: win the whole FedEx Cup to me is just completely idiotic. 299 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. It's it's literally just I mean it's that's so, 300 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: that's because they want the five guys to have a chance, right. 301 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody in the field to have a chance. 302 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: That's because it doesn't matter. I mean, that's there's nothing. 303 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: I mean, if it was something so significant that all 304 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: these guys you know, cared so deeply about that, that 305 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't exist. I don't think. 306 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 307 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: The other thing is is like, you know, trying to 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: condense all of golf. Like I don't know how you 309 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: think about golf, but I always look at players, like 310 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: even at our level, I look at players that are 311 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: more consistent than me, that always finished top five, and 312 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: I think, God, they're so consistent. They win a couple 313 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: of times, they finished top five all the time, Like 314 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: that's what I want to be. 315 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: Like, trying to condense. 316 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: Golf down into one week or a four week stretch, 317 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: to me is kind of not what the game's all about. 318 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Like Tiger always said, he's chasing consistency. That's The number 319 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: one thing he's always looking forward is to become more consistent. 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: And you're trying to condense a season long thing into 321 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: four weeks. 322 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that. I you know, the difference between 323 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: winning in third place at that level maybe a couple 324 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: of lipouts, you know, or you hit a tree and 325 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: it kicks in the fairway, or you hit a tree 326 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: and it kicks behind a tree. You know, That's that's 327 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: the difference. So I'm with you. Condencing it to one 328 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: week or even four is not great. 329 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's get Let's get into the questions David Horlander. 330 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: If you had to move to BMW to another Chicago 331 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: area course, which one and why? 332 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: A couple came to mind. The first one that came 333 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 3: to mind is right down the road from Conway is Knowlwold. 334 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: It came to mind because I played the mid Am 335 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 3: in twenty twelve at Conway and Nowood was the sister course. 336 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: And Nowood not only is it a great golf course, 337 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: but the stroke average was i want to say, almost 338 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: two strokes higher. The rough was a little overgrown, but 339 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: I mean that golf course can be tough. It's a 340 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: huge piece of property. I mean, there's no doubt it 341 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: hosted the Western a couple of years ago, but there's 342 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: no doubt it could host it. So I would probably 343 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: say that's my first choice. Obviously there's others, but Nolwood 344 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: would be ideal. 345 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: I love Nolwood. 346 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: I grew up working there at Caddied and back room, 347 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: did there for like ten years. 348 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: I love that place. 349 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: The one concern I would have there is just infrastructure, 350 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: right getting like big grand stands and The's That's the 351 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: thing I think I've realized the more I've covered golf 352 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: and going to these events, is like there's so few 353 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: good sites available because of all the infrastructure you need 354 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: with the grand stand, the length of the golf course 355 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: you need nowadays, and like the type of golf course 356 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: like where. 357 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: So many are are not available to it. 358 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: So like my con So the other thing with Chicago, 359 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: the interesting dynamic with it is is they saw it at. 360 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: The US helping. 361 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: You don't want to have a championship on the South 362 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: side because there just aren't a lot. 363 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: There's not a big concentration of golfers. 364 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: The north and the West side are the are like 365 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: the north and west suburbs are the places where you're 366 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: going to find the most golfers, and if you have 367 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: it down like Olympia Fields would be a great host. 368 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: But for somebody from the North Side, it's going to 369 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: take an hour plus to get down there, and they 370 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: just frankly aren't going to go travel down there to play. 371 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: So I would look at obviously Medina is the next host. 372 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a good host because you 373 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: know the property, the infrastructure, like, I mean, that place 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: can host a championship easily and has all the parking, 375 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: it's easy to get to, and it's a it's a 376 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: big property. 377 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about the course, it's it's very Reese jonety. 378 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: But if if that place got restored, it would be 379 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: or redone by like Bill kre Ben Crenshaw or somebody 380 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: like that, that place would be a top ten championship 381 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: course in the in the country. Another one that I 382 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: obviously it's the top of the list on everything with 383 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: Chicago's Chicago Golf Club, I mean, they've got plenty of space. 384 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: They could actually host one of these championships, but that 385 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: would never never happen because they'd have to give up 386 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: their course for a week. But they have the space 387 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: and for the infrastructure needs and that would just be awesome. 388 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think Conways is a good 389 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: host because of where it's located. It's got the space 390 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: for the infrastructure, and uh, I think I think the 391 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: golf course has a ton of potential to get better. 392 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am with you. All right, Let's go to 393 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: the next question from Nate Maori. Nate, what do you 394 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: think about the web Tour schedule criss crossing the nation? 395 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: Shouldn't they think about the money implications on players and caddies. 396 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: Well, to say the least, the Web Tour scheduling is 397 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: it is a complete dumpster fire. They started the season 398 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: going to the Bahamas and then they took a week 399 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: off and then went back to the Bahamas. So you know, 400 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: like that just from right off, the right off the 401 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: start of the season, terrible scheduling with like any kind 402 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: of thought to their players and caddies, Like they had 403 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: to buy two flight, two round trip tickets to the 404 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: Hamas as opposed to just one. These guys are playing 405 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: for so little Monaymian. You finish in fortieth place on 406 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: the Web Tour and you make like twenty six hundred 407 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: dollars and that doesn't even cover your travel for the 408 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: week and for the caddy that's like so you get 409 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: ten percent, that's two hundred and sixty dollars plus you're 410 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: like one thousand dollars a week fee. So yeah, they 411 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: the Web Tour, I know that are in a tough 412 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: spot with sponsors, but I just don't think the tour 413 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: does enough to promote how good the golf is. I 414 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: think last year, between the WEB graduates and the finals participants, 415 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: you had nine PGA Tour winners on the season, So like, 416 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: how how is this. 417 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: Golf not being celebrated? 418 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Like you go watch a WEB event and it's just 419 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: as good at golf, as very close to as good 420 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: of golf as the PGA Tour. 421 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: The names just aren't recognizable. 422 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: So more fun to it ten too. I mean, it's 423 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: much more intimate than you know, standing six people back, 424 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: you can you know, walk right along with whoever you 425 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: want really usually mm hmm exactly. 426 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: And I mean the crazy thing I think is the misconception. 427 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: On the Web is that it's a young tour and 428 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: it's actually turning into more of an older tour because 429 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: you get there's so many young guys on the PGA 430 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: Tour that you have all these like older guys that 431 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: should still be on the PGA Tour, like if it 432 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: was fifteen years ago, but now they're stuck playing down 433 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: there because there's just no spots form. 434 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I obviously the reason it is the 435 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: way it is, I think is it's hard to get 436 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: good golf courses, to give up your golf, to give 437 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: up your days for a tour event, let alone a 438 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: web dot com. So I think that they try to 439 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 3: mix and match the best they can, but I am 440 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: in agreement with you that they can. They can absolutely 441 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 3: do better, because it's not it's not fair to these 442 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: guys at all. I mean not one bit. They wouldn't 443 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: ask the tour guys to do the same thing. I 444 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: don't even think because they would, you know, bitch about it. 445 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, it's not good. It's I couldn't imagine 446 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: being a caddy on the Web Tour. It would just 447 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: be I mean, I don't know how those guys afford 448 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: to live. Jay Rigdon overrated, underrated nine hole golf courses. 449 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: I love nine hole golf courses. I grew up, I'm 450 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 3: gonna say underrated. I grew up playing the Wineka par three. 451 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: Probably my first fifty rounds of golfer at the Winneka 452 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: par three, So I love it. There's some really cool 453 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: par threes. Uh, you know, there's one in Jupiter down here, 454 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: there's one in Palm Beach that's awesome. The one in 455 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: Palm Beach literally is better than most of the regular 456 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: golf courses around here. It's just it's they're a lot 457 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: of fun, and you know, you get obviously Pine Valley 458 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: and Olympic they all have really cool part three courses too. 459 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: But I I mean, I would almost prefer to play 460 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: a par three course than an eighteen whole course is 461 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: just a little more fun and it's not such a 462 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: time commitment. 463 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love nine hole courses because I like the 464 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: idea of just playing nine holes, Like mm hmm, you 465 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: don't always. 466 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: Have time for eighteen. 467 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: I think that we need more nine I'd love to 468 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: see a four hole course because, like I think golf 469 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: needs to try and compete with people's workouts, you know, 470 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: and people always find an hour to work out, Like, 471 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: how come we can't create four hole courses that are 472 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: really interesting and. 473 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: Fun where people can go play four holes. 474 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: And it takes an hour on their way home from 475 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: work as opposed to two hours for nine or four 476 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: hours for eighteen. I think you'd see a lot more 477 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: people playing golf more often. 478 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: I feel like people have talked about that for a 479 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: few years now, and I can't believe it hasn't really 480 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: come to fruition, because it's that's an answer, you know, 481 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 3: all these what's happened to golf? How do we get 482 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: younger people? Blah blah blah. I mean, that's a complete answer, 483 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: and nobody's really kind of taking the ball and run 484 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: with it. 485 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: It's one of my One of the most fun golf 486 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: experiences I've had this year was my buddy's bachelor party 487 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: and in Portland and he, you know, we were I 488 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: was with like a bunch of non golfers. Like one 489 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: guy hadn't played golf in fourteen years and he's like six' 490 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: five And serbian and he hadn't played he'd only played 491 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: once in his. 492 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 2: Life he was, terrible but he had a great time we. 493 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Played this place is called like Mcmanamon's pub, course and 494 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: they have a twenty hole par three course and a 495 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: twelve hole par three. Course the clubhouse is a bar 496 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: and you go there and you rent your clubs for 497 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: like a. Dollar it's a you get a, wedge a, 498 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: putter and one ball for a dollar and then you 499 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: go play and every hole is less than seventy yards 500 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: and it goes like uphill. 501 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: Downhill the greens are. Tiny like it was actually like really. 502 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: Hard that's, fun so. 503 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: Fun but it was it for you, know like the. 504 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Beginners they could they could literally hit a putter to the, 505 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: green you, know if they wanted to do they could 506 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: just put it because it was like straight up hill, 507 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: downhill so you could like on the downhill ones they 508 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: could just put. 509 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: It it was really. 510 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: Cool it, was but like more places like, THAT i 511 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: mean that it had more of a top golf style 512 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: feel in terms of like the, atmosphere but it was 513 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: more golf than top. 514 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: Golf. 515 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: Cool i'm all about. 516 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: That Philip johnson, overrated Underrated madina. 517 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: Three oh, Boy i'm probably gonna piss off some friends, 518 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 3: here But i'm gonna say way. Overrated we've talked about this, 519 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: before you, know with some buddies on our, thread AND 520 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: i think THAT i would be IF i made the 521 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 3: list of the top golf courses In, CHICAGO i would 522 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: be surprised IF i Put madonna number three in the top. 523 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: THIRTY i JUST i it's, long it's perfect for a tour. 524 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: EVENT i, mean it's, long it's, hard it's. BIG i 525 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: enjoy playing. IT I i just to, me it's. NOT i, 526 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: mean it's just it's a little, boring the you, know the. 527 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: Whole some of the holes kind of seem. Similar obviously 528 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 3: there's some really good. Holes And i'm probably underselling it 529 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: just because it is so. Overrated BUT i Just i've 530 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: never been a fan of, it to be, Honest so 531 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: just one man's opinion. 532 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: In terms of, rankings it's way. 533 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: Overrated in terms of like public, APPEAL i feel like 534 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: The internet has been so like The internet era has 535 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: ruined my. Medina like people see it and they just you, 536 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: know AND i see pictures like that's like when people 537 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: can start freely communicating about courses like across the internet With, 538 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: twitter like it's it's ruined courses like my, Media like 539 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: Baltist ral got the bad treatment, Too but, LIKE i, 540 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: mean the design so, Flawed LIKE i Mean Rees jones 541 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: puts like bunkers on outside of the dog lakes all day. 542 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: Long out. There there's too many. 543 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: Trees the greens are all reached out with all these 544 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: segments and all this. Stuff but LIKE i go back 545 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: to the land and the land is so frickin good 546 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: that it's like almost like impossible to build a really 547 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: bad golf course. There like it's still it's a mediocre 548 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: golf course right, now but the land is so good 549 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that it could be. 550 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: SPECTACULAR i say, underrated because if you. 551 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: Actually renovated it and got a very good architect in 552 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: there that was you, know that knew how to build 553 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: strategic golf holes like that place would be it might 554 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: be top three or four In. 555 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: Chicago, yeah trees is a major issue out. There there's 556 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: probably twelve times too many trees as there should. 557 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: Be, yeah they got out rid of all the all 558 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: the wrong trees and kept like those Big they have 559 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: so many big oaks that are just awesome trees THAT i. 560 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: Mean it Was sergiore is a good? Tree on is 561 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: it really? 562 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Well reese redid the, hole oh right down the tree 563 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: and he raised that. 564 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: Green that green is still freaking high up. 565 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: There when did he do? That i'm trying to think 566 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: WHEN i played there maybe two years ago that was gone. 567 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: Then so there's a tree that looks like you can 568 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: go there and look at the tree and you think 569 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: that's the, tree but. 570 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: It's not actually the, tree fake. Tree it was. 571 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: INTERESTING i busted a drive there the other day AND 572 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: i THINK i was right by Where sergio hit his, 573 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: tree which is kind of, amazing given like the technology 574 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: advances since that the, championship like how far it used 575 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: to hit the ball In. 576 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: Tiger so, yeah THAT i Think. 577 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: MADINA i think madna is is just beaten up so 578 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: much that it might actually be. Underrated And i'm one 579 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: of the people that beat it. 580 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: Up it sounds like a good answer for the. People all, 581 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: right let's Go Nate mauri over Under Wesley. 582 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: Bryant last last questions From. Nate that's a good, one 583 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: fired him. 584 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: Off, yeah over Under Wesley bryant's ninety minute round of sixty, 585 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: nine which was. 586 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: Nice it is. NICE i. 587 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: Think it's overrated, though just because of what, again what 588 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: the internet does to things like. 589 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: This i'm cool with that, answer all. Right how about 590 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: another one From? Nate what are the three worst best 591 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: courses on? Tour which courses would you substitute? 592 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: In three best would be probably. 593 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's, SEE i mean Like ironomic next, year it's got 594 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 1: to be in. 595 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: There ironomic is so. 596 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: Good riviera every single year has to be one of. 597 00:30:49,920 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: Those and THEN i would probably, say, Well, Trinity i'm 598 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: gonna be really interested to See Trinity forrest In dallas next. 599 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: Year new. 600 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: HOST i don't know Who i'd say for the Third 601 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: i'd PROBABLY i Mean Pebble, beach but they don't do 602 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: the full, hosting you, know, Right i'd still Say Pebble. 603 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: Beach what do you. 604 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: THINK i can't Leave pebble off. There And ironomic is 605 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: one of the best Courses i've ever. Played that course 606 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: is amazing and it's gotten. 607 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: BETTER i think we. 608 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: Did a trip there and we Played Pine valley the 609 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 3: day after we Played. Ironomic and not to say That 610 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: ironomic was better Than Pine, valley but we were, like, 611 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: wow those. Courses they're not they're not similar by any, 612 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: means but in terms of how we rated, them we're, Like, 613 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: wow this courses are not very far. Off we had 614 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: no idea anything About. Ironomic we got to. 615 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: Do a trip To philly before. 616 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: THAT bmw next, year get a get a Little ironomic 617 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: in AND i, mean. 618 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: There's so many good golf courses in. 619 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: Phil so many it's. 620 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Crazy, ACTUALLY i spent two weeks there last year AND 621 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: i feel LIKE i just scratched the. 622 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: SURFACE i haven't Played mary And i'd love. To one 623 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: are the worst, courses the worst. 624 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: Courses this one that jumps to the top of my 625 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: mind THAT i kind of lit up this this year 626 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Is Glenn. ABBEY i, mean it's hardly one of the 627 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: best one hundred golf courses in all Of. CANADA i 628 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: don't think it would, be and you look at, it 629 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of it favors the long hitter tremendously out. 630 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: There if you don't, vomit you have no. Chance and. 631 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: You, know you look at what just happened to The Canadian. 632 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: OPEN i mean it used to be a, major major, 633 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: event AND i Mean Jack, nicholas it was one of 634 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: his Like musco tos every. Year and what's happened to 635 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: it is it has become like a bottom tier event 636 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: since you, know the slide started when they started going 637 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: To Glenn. ABBEY i think you look at good golf 638 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: courses usually promote good fields Like. Riviera Obviously la has 639 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: a part of, that but it has the best non, 640 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: major NON wgc field year and year, out and it's 641 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: the best golf. Course so that's a quick fix for 642 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: The Canadian. Open AND i know everybody will say they 643 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: don't make any money if they go somewhere, Else but 644 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: it's not like a you can't just like go somewhere 645 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: good one year and have all of your problems. Fixed 646 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: if you continually play good, courses it'll get. 647 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Fixed. 648 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: FIRESTONE i Hate. FIRESTONE i know good players win. 649 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: There but it just it's. 650 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: Thoughtless it's you, know hit it straight and hit it, 651 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: close like there's a never. 652 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: Any like in what holes can you remember At? 653 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: Firestone like you remember them Because tiger played eighteen in 654 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: the dark and you remember, Sixteen but could you tell 655 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: me what hole seven At firestone? Is and they've been 656 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: playing there for how many years? Straight and it's a 657 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: big time. Event and THEN i gotta go with The 658 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: jones family. Legacy here THE Rtj trail For barbasol all. 659 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: Over The joneses. Today, yeah tough. 660 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: Day for The. 661 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Jones BUT i would Say i'd say that just because 662 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: like why are they playing In alabama In? August like 663 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: the course rally isn't is, Okay but the fact that 664 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: you're playing a golf tournament In alabama In august is 665 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: asking for many rain delays and like extremely soft conditions 666 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: and players just like with tons of swamp. 667 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: Ass the one. 668 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: Course you're leaving off that list IS tpc At. Scottsdale 669 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: that course is. AWFUL i you, KNOW i Maybe i'm 670 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 3: salty because it's like a few hundred bucks to play 671 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: and you get out there and like the first fourteen, 672 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: Holes you're, like what the hell is? This LIKE i 673 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: could have just you, know played the hotel course or 674 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: any course you know In. Arizona that's literally so. BORING 675 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: I i the fifteen through eighteen are, cool BUT i 676 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 3: think you're so bitter that you've played the first fourteen 677 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: holes by the time you get to, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, 678 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: eighteen you don't get to enjoy. 679 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: IT i got a lot of heat even from one 680 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: of our our, friends The Angry, golfer WHEN i said 681 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: That SCOTTSDALE Tpc scottsdale is a below average course in 682 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: a city full of average golf. 683 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: Courses, YEAH i think you're you're painting that in a positive. 684 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: PICTURE i think you, said Like scottsdale is one of 685 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: the worst golf cities in the, country and then said 686 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 3: Like memphis was. 687 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: BETTER i didn't Say, memphis you. 688 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 3: Didn't but your argument About scottsdale was. Good but excuse 689 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: me ABOUT tpc At. Scottsdale BUT i do think there's 690 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: some awesome golf courses in The scottsdale. AREA i need to. 691 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 3: Go it just might be a little overrated because there's 692 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: so many and people are, like, Oh scottsdale Golf. Mecca 693 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: it's definitely not, that but it's not. TERRIBLE i don't THINK. 694 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: I always judge golf cities like. 695 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: How many courses would you fly there to? Play and, 696 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: like from What i've, BEEN i haven't. 697 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: Played enough golf In. SCOTTSIALE i have to go this. 698 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: WINTER i think that's. 699 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: Something have you played desert for? 700 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: Us? 701 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: No so that course is, Amazing but that's a northern golf. 702 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: Course that's it's it's just kind of place in the, 703 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: desert but it is a north it's kind of a 704 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: northern field to. It but they had some really good golf. 705 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: Courses Whisper rock is like a cool experience more so 706 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: than being a great golf. 707 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: Course oh. TOTALLY I i would give the golf course 708 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: like a. FIVE i don't even really remember many of 709 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: the holes. There BUT i remember the milkshakes and the 710 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: hanging out inside watch AND i think it WAS ncaa 711 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: tournament last time we were. There that was a, Blast 712 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 3: but the golf course was kind of. 713 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: Eh SO i. 714 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: Always judge it on like where in the city WOULD 715 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: i like you call me up and, say, Hey i'm playing? 716 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: Here like where WOULD i hop on a plane no 717 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: question to ask to go? Play and you, Know chicago 718 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: Has Chicago golf for, akers Like columbus Has Mirfield. 719 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: Village i'd probably. 720 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: Get in a car to Drive, Seota and but like 721 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: the golf, club i'd get you, know get in a 722 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: plane and go fly their. Play Like San francisco Has 723 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco Golf. Club you know they, Have i'd probably 724 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: go Play Cal. Club also The Olympic club, Obviously so 725 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: like these, CITIES la has three, Courses i'd get a 726 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: get on a plane to go. Play Like that's my 727 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: point is like there isn't one In scottsdale Where i'd be, like, 728 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: yeah you know, What i'll drop. 729 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: Everything and go. 730 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: Play, PENNSYLVANIA i mean Like, Philly pittsburgh Has New, York, 731 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: Boston i'll have. 732 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: Them, NO i MEAN i think MY i agree with 733 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: you that it's not very top have, you but it's 734 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: a little deeper. 735 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: Here here's a good question From Joe. Ess best betting 736 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: game with play a varying skill? 737 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 3: LEVEL i would say the banker game would be the 738 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 3: best because you can you can do it with guys 739 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: who are twenty handicaps plus, fives and you can. Win you, 740 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 3: know you can bet as much as you want or 741 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: as little as we. Want brief. Synopsis so you go 742 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: to a, hole Say i'm the guy that hold the 743 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: first putt with the lowest. Score is the banker on 744 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 3: the next, Hole so Say i'm the. BANKER i, say, 745 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 3: okay this soul's worth forty bucks and, maximum and you're 746 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 3: you and me are playing straight, up and you, say, 747 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 3: Okay i'll take all forty of. It and then our 748 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 3: buddies getting you, know eight, shots and he gets a 749 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 3: shot or you want twenty of, it, say and my 750 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 3: buddy's getting a shot off. Me he wants all. Forty 751 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: and then you, know one of our other buddies is 752 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: just tagging along for, fun and he just, says, Okay 753 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: i'll just play it for. Ten and then you just 754 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 3: play the whole individual me against you and me against 755 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 3: the other, guy and me against the other. Guy that's 756 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 3: kind of a brief. Synopsis but it's good for all 757 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 3: levels of betting and all skill. 758 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: Levels you. 759 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: Know WHAT i really like about that game is if 760 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: you play, well you're gonna. 761 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: Win m. 762 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: Hm like it's very, simple like if you play if 763 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: you shoot sixty, eight you're gonna. Win you, know if 764 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: you play a great, round if you're a if you're 765 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: a twelve handicap and shoot, eighty you're gonna. Win like, 766 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: Right it's not going to be where like one, hole 767 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: like can just railroad you and you, could you, know 768 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: you make your only bogie on a hole and somebody 769 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: else makes an eagle and you lose five hundred points 770 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: and it's just. 771 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: Like, WELL i just you. 772 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: Know so that's one THING i love about that. GAME 773 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: i think it's good for different skill. Levels we played 774 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: it with a not that vast but a pretty Vast. 775 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah we played it with a good group of, guys diverse. Handicaps, 776 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 3: YEAH i would agree with. 777 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 2: THAT i Think, BANKER i Think wolf is decent. IT 778 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 2: i think it Obviously Scotch in Like, vegas skew to 779 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: the better. 780 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 3: Player, yeah that game is all about, PROCs so you 781 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 3: don't want to get in that game with you, know 782 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 3: if you're a high, handicapper you, can't you. Can't you 783 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: don't want to get in that game with low. 784 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: Handicappers and it's, LIKE i think the TRADITIONAL nasa like 785 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: actually skews like a match Play nasha skews to the 786 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: higher handicap having an advantage because totally because as a lower, 787 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: handicap your, variant it's, like you, know you don't make 788 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: as many you don't make many doubles or, triples and 789 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: a fifteen handicap can make nine, pars but he could 790 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: make you, know three, triples and those three triples you 791 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: can make birdie and you know you pick up twelve 792 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: shots on those three, holes but you really only win three. 793 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 3: Holes so, yeah it's a story for a different. Day 794 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 3: But i've always felt like member guests and you, know 795 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 3: stuff like, that where it's usually best ball match, play 796 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 3: it should not be even close to one hundred, percent 797 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: probably not even eighty percent your. Handicamp it should be like. 798 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: Sixty but, YEAH i think like sixty or fifty it should. 799 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: Be but that's both of us have an extremely biased 800 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: perspective on the. 801 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: Subject So. Philip why Did leishman get two. 802 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: Trophies that's because there's A bmw trophy and A Western open. 803 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: Trophy so, like you, know THE wga runs The Western 804 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: western m and it became THE, bmw or The Western 805 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: open and became THE, bmw and you, know The Western 806 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: open was one of the most historic. 807 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: Events it's kind of a, shame, ACTUALLY i. Uh but 808 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 2: the better question here is. Overrated Underrated guys who play 809 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 2: with no. 810 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 3: HATS i think overrated because you're probably not that intelligent 811 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: because with you, know, melanoma and you spend so much 812 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 3: time on the you, know in the, sun not wearing 813 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: a hat is extremely dangerous and you're just not not 814 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: intelligent if. YOU i, mean if it's one, thing if 815 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 3: it's like once every two, weeks but once every three, 816 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: weeks it's still not. Good but if you're out there 817 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: regularly playing golf without a, hat you gotta you gotta fix. 818 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: That you gotta figure it. 819 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: Out sounds like you should get in with the big safari. 820 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 3: HAT i should the long sleeve. SHIRT i probably will. 821 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: BE i think that's what people do In florida after 822 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 3: they've been here for like ten. Years i'll be wearing 823 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: like long underwear and on my. Legs i'm on my, 824 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 3: Face i'm. 825 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: Gonna go underrated on the no Hat and it's just 826 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i admire them not selling out and earning the 827 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: extra whatever couple hundred thousand or you, know if it 828 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: if it's a high profile player millions of dollars from 829 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: a sponsor by. 830 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: Foregoing the number one spot on the. 831 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 3: Golfer all, right how About BLAKE j wants to know 832 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 3: your thoughts on the New Dana Fry corse At Arcadia. 833 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: Buffs, WELL i haven't seen it, yet so hard to 834 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: say what my thoughts. 835 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: ARE i like the idea of getting golfers more exposed 836 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: to the kind Of rainer McDonald's style of golf in 837 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: a public. 838 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: Setting there just aren't many of. Them it'll be interesting 839 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: to see how it's. 840 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: EXECUTED i think the tough thing with doing that style 841 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: of golf is Where rainer was really great was like 842 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: in these small little. Intricacies you, know it's like these 843 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: small little internal contours and greens where if you miss the, 844 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: green you, know if you're pin high, right not only 845 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: do you have slope right to, left but there's usually 846 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: these little tiny spines that you have to put over 847 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden make speed control. IMPOSSIBLE i 848 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: think that is the genius Of. Rayner that will be 849 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: very difficult. 850 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 2: To, match But i'm excited to see. IT i Am. 851 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: Dave, westler WHO i had on the pod did a 852 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: great job doing a course in a similar manner from 853 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: like a nothing muni In Mount prospect where you have 854 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: these wild template, greens and you know there's something that he. 855 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: Faced there was backlash from the public because they just 856 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: they didn't understand. It so a lot of people, think 857 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: like these are goofy, greens but these Are the whole 858 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: premise was like build a court a public course In 859 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: chicago where you can see the architecture you see at 860 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: Short akers In chicago golf the two best golf courses 861 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: in the. 862 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: City and that leads us, sorry go, ahead, no, no go. 863 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 3: Ahead that leads us to the question here About Remount 864 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 3: Prospect Golf club Versus. Rabislow what are your top five 865 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: public courses In chicago considering the quality of, course, cost 866 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 3: distance from the, city et. 867 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: Cetera so if you if you do the, COST i 868 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: think this is the only way you can really judge 869 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: like golf and cities is when you do quality of, 870 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: course condition and the, costs because you, know if you 871 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: play a, course if you want a course this great, 872 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: condition like you can tell. 873 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 2: Hey if you want great, conditioning you should. 874 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: Go play the Gun. Club BUT i don't think it's 875 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: anywhere near the best public golf course in the. City 876 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: WHAT i would say, Is i'd probably Go ravislow is 877 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: my favorite. 878 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: Place to go. Play it's like A Donald ross. 879 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: Course great. Greens unfortunately they can't keep the. Greens this 880 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: is the other problem with public golf, is like those old, 881 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: greens they can't keep fast in a public setting because 882 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: the rounds would just take too. Long guys would be 883 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: putting balls off the green all. Day whereas a country 884 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: club you could do that because people are more used 885 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: to the green. Speed So i'd Say rabbits slow is 886 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: my number. One i'd Go Mount, prospect all. Right i'd 887 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: go Probably Shepherd's crook number. Two it's way up In 888 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: zion so as, far but that's an awesome golf. Course 889 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: there's no, range it's built on a, landfill so it 890 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: can kind of smell, sometimes but it's a really good golf. 891 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: Course and then i'd GO. 892 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: I go number, Three mount prospect number Four highlands Of, 893 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: elgin AND i don't know what my number five would. 894 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: Be what about. YOU i like that. 895 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 3: List i'd probably Put Pine meadow in that. 896 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: List Pine meadow's. 897 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: COOL i like that golf. COURSE i, MEAN i don't 898 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 3: know how architecturally sound it, is but as far as 899 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 3: a public, COURSE i, mean it's tough and it's. SOLID 900 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 3: i DON'T i haven't played there in, years BUT i 901 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 3: want to say it's probably around one hundred bucks something like. 902 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 2: That it's a good. 903 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: Deal so the interesting thing About Pine meadow that is 904 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: that it was originally designed By William, flynn the guy 905 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: that Designed Shannacak. 906 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 3: Hills, JESUS i did not know that. 907 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: Catance at the country. CLUB i mean it Was integral 908 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: And marion And Pine. Valley this guy came To Lake 909 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: forest to build a state for this guy Named Albert, 910 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: laskar and it was called Mill Road Farms Golf. CLUB 911 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: i THINK i think that was the, name but, anyways 912 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: it was apparently this golf course in Lake. Forest he 913 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: Built Pine. Metal at the same, time this golf course 914 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: In Lake forest was The oakmont of The, midwest and 915 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,479 Speaker 1: there was an ongoing bet That laskar had with any 916 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: tour professional that they couldn't come and break park and 917 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: he would give him a thousand bucks if they broke 918 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: part the. Course AND i think only one guy did it. 919 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 1: Ever but Then laskar died and it became a housing, 920 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: development and you, Know Lake forest lost probably the best 921 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: golf course in the, town in the. City maybe the 922 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: city probably wouldn't have been better Than Chicago. 923 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: Golf but sounds Like Jerry, rick she has a standing 924 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 3: standing offer to try to break part rich haarvis from the. 925 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: Tips, yeah it's probably a little bit different type test 926 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: of golf in terms of what it. Demands let's, See, 927 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: uh is there A Golden age course not in the US, 928 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: Ga rhoda for events that AREN'T Us, open Mid, am 929 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: all those all the am events that should Be. 930 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 3: You know, what why don't you take that one that 931 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 3: seems right up your? 932 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: ALLEY i feel like the u S ga gets. There 933 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: they're kind of pick of the. 934 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: Litter BUT i don't know the last, time Like San 935 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: Francisco Golf club had, something AND. 936 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: I think that would be a great golf. 937 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: Course obviously you've got another, one might be Like peachtree 938 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: hasn't ever really had. 939 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 2: ANYTHING i don't. 940 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 1: SEE i think these clubs probably aren't interested in hosting, them, 941 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: Right so then but those AND i think Like San 942 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: Francisco Golf, club given its lack of, distance would you'd 943 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: have to have like a mid am at the best 944 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: course That i've played this, year not Named Chicago Golf 945 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: club Or Fisher's island is a place Called, moraine and 946 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 1: it's In, Dayton. 947 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 2: Ohio it's neighbors WITH. 948 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: NCR i played a US am qualifier, there so it's 949 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: not THE usga run. Event it's a it's a Local 950 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: Golf association run. Event and only one guy broke part 951 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: over the two, rounds and it was it wasn't like 952 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,479 Speaker 1: it was like abnormally windy or bad. 953 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 2: Conditions it was a good day to play. 954 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: Golf SO i would Say moraine should be hosting. Something 955 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: it should host like A Senior, open a senior, players 956 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 1: like if the tour wanted to go, there or it 957 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 1: could be like an awesome US am host WITH ncr 958 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: is the other, course or a mid am course with AN. 959 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: Ncr they literally are they butt up against each, Other 960 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: so that could be a really great kind of. Combo 961 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: here's a good. One overrated underrated practice. 962 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 3: Swings i'm gonna say. OVERRATED I i only say that 963 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think it's such a perceived notion that you 964 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 3: have to have this two, swing three swing. Routine and 965 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 3: there's been times Where i've struggled playing And i'll switch 966 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 3: up my, ROUTINE i, mean and maybe go no practice 967 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 3: swings and you play fine for a little. Bit SO i, 968 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 3: mean as long as you're you're, LOOSE i mean it. 969 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 3: Depends if you're rehearsing, something you, know like trying to 970 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 3: get under it or come over, it whatever you whatever you're, 971 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 3: rehearsing then practice swings actually. Help but if you're swinging 972 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 3: it pretty, Well i'm not really. SURE i, mean what 973 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 3: they do for you mm. 974 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: Hmm some people say that your best swing would be 975 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 1: your first wing because it's. 976 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 3: An. 977 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: Instinctual i'd say, overrated not. Necessary here's another good one for. 978 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 1: You should The Walker cup reserve a spot for midam, 979 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: or a senior am or and a senior. 980 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 3: AM I i THINK i said this on the last, 981 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 3: one but, NO i don't think. SO i, MEAN i 982 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 3: think it should be the twelve or how many ten 983 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 3: or twelve ten? 984 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: TEN i should be it should expand to twelve, though. 985 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 3: If you expanded to. TWELVE i think you, could you, 986 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 3: know you'd have some wiggle room. There BUT i think 987 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 3: if it's, TEN i think. NEITHER i think you should 988 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,479 Speaker 3: just have the ten best. Players and LIKE i said 989 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,919 Speaker 3: it at the on the last, ONE i hope it's six. 990 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 3: Midam's but you, know if it's, not it's. Not it 991 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 3: should be the ten best players that play in. 992 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 2: IT i, agree it's not like. THEY i. 993 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: Guess you, know this year The President's cup Took, phil 994 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: which was kind of like taking a. 995 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 2: Midam he probably, didn't. 996 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: Right, yeah the, team let's, see we'll say. 997 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: Overrated. Underrated Midwest Fall golf From. Andy, okay so. 998 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 3: UNDERRATED i Love Midwest fall. Golf i'm trying to figure 999 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 3: out a. Way i'm trying to figure out a few 1000 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 3: dates In october to come up north and play x 1001 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 3: more and all the good golf courses that are so 1002 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 3: it's when it's firm and fast Up. North typically the 1003 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 3: the courses are just so. Good it's my favorite time of. 1004 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 3: Year there's nothing to be better than playing like a 1005 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 3: eight o'clock round on A saturday And, sunday you, know eating, 1006 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 3: lunch going home and just watching football. Day it's like 1007 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 3: a dream. 1008 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: Day, yeah especially when it's the weather where like you're 1009 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: wearing pants AND i pull over when you tee off 1010 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: and then buy like by eight your pants and a 1011 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: shirt and it's just like that perfect. Weather it's a little, 1012 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: brisk and the balls balls, running the greens are flying 1013 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: because they don't have to worry about all the diseases 1014 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: getting in, there like the humidity. 1015 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 2: Over there's no way it could be possibly. Overrated. 1016 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: Agreed what's the craziest confrontation you've ever witnessed on the 1017 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: golf course or? 1018 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 3: HALT i saw this. Question it reminded me of one. 1019 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 3: THING i was playing a high school match with my Buddy. 1020 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 3: Andrew we were PLAYING i GUESS i shouldn't say what, 1021 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 3: school so we're what school we were playing, against but 1022 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 3: we were both playing For New, trier and one of 1023 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 3: the guys we're playing against is clearly moving his marker, 1024 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 3: up like every time he puts it, down he moves 1025 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 3: it up like literally like six inches to a. FOOT i, 1026 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 3: mean we would turn around talk to each other and 1027 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 3: he'd be hate to have like a tap in instead 1028 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: of a three. Footer we're, like what the hell is going? 1029 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 3: On so that it's, Like, okay you, Know i'll you, 1030 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 3: Know i'm gonna keep an eye on, them blah blah. 1031 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 3: Blah So i'm not really paying attention on like the seventh. 1032 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 3: POLE i look over And vitt goes up to this 1033 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 3: kid and he, goes, LISTEN i saw you move that. 1034 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 3: Marker i'm not gonna call you on, it but if 1035 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 3: you do it, again And i'm gonna beat the fuck 1036 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 3: out of, You, like oh my, god and the kid 1037 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: got ghost. White literally MADE i think double or triple 1038 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 3: on eight and double or triple on nine after being 1039 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 3: like even. Par it was the craziest Thing i've. Seen 1040 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 3: he was so, flustered it was. Amazing, yes it's the 1041 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 3: high school high school. Golf lots of high school golf 1042 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 3: can get. 1043 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 2: Crazy, yeah mine would. 1044 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: BE i was playing at my home club AND i 1045 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: HIT i sprayed. 1046 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 2: ONE i was actually somebody else sprayed one into our fair, 1047 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 2: away AND i pointed. 1048 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: OUT i was, like here's your, ball and the guy 1049 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: like drives up with his cart and he like immediately 1050 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: starts like getting ready to hit the, shot And i'm 1051 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: walking like directly in front of, him and like all 1052 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,959 Speaker 1: of a, Sudden i'm like standing right in his crosshairs 1053 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: And i'm, like. 1054 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 2: Holy, shit this guy's gonna hit the. 1055 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: Ball AND i start running with my bag on my 1056 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: shoulders and. 1057 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 2: He hit he. 1058 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: Chunks, it and he was like this big, guy he 1059 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: chunks this and it like goes like you, know like 1060 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: right in like thirty. 1061 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 2: Yards And i'm, like holy. Shit AND i AND i 1062 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 2: said to, HIM i was, like, dude you gotta wait 1063 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 2: till people get out of your. 1064 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 1: Way and he, goes you THOUGHT i was gonna hit, 1065 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 1: you and LIKE i was pretty pissed. Off SO i, said, 1066 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: well with a swing like, that you you would never. 1067 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: Know and, UH i mean this guy got like enraged 1068 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 1: and he was was he. Hammered, No, no he's this 1069 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: big guy he had he was tatted up and and 1070 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: my BUDDY i was playing with, like, dude like why 1071 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: why did you say that to? 1072 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 2: Him but, yeah he got really. Mad it was it 1073 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 2: WAS i actually kind of. 1074 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: Was scared about getting my ass kicked on a golf, 1075 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: course WHICH i didn't. 1076 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 2: Think whatever. 1077 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 3: Happened how about overrated underrated wedge stamps And adirondack. 1078 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 2: CHAIRS i think they're both. 1079 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: OVERRATED i have LIKE i had a buddy give me 1080 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: Some wilson wedges and they have my initials on, them 1081 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: and it's, cool but LIKE i don't get in on 1082 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: like the, designs like a cool putter cover doesn't get me, 1083 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: going or A i'm like kind. 1084 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 2: Of more of a. 1085 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: Minimalist and then the, CHAIRS i think, that like people 1086 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: make such a big deal about them that they're. OVERRATED 1087 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: i just naturally think things are overrated when people like. 1088 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 3: THEM i say overrated wedge, stamps AND i guess underrated 1089 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 3: at around back chairs BECAUSE i like saying at around 1090 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 3: deck they are. 1091 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: Cool Like Arcadia bluffs has a bunch of them that 1092 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: on top of the bluff and they look out over 1093 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: the lake like that's fucking. 1094 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 2: Awesome i'm in on, that. 1095 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 3: But you're in on. 1096 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 2: That, yeah just in, general maybe out on. IT i 1097 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 2: don't think they're that comfortable. 1098 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 3: Either they're, okay, yeah you're, right they're. Not like it's 1099 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 3: Not god's gifts to. 1100 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: Comfort they look, cool but you, KNOW I i have 1101 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: this debate with my wife all the, time like they look, 1102 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: Cool like this looks, cool but it's not, Comfortable like 1103 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: that's the main point of a. 1104 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 2: Chair, right. 1105 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 3: That's a good that's a good spousal. 1106 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 2: Argument, yeah let's see what else we? 1107 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: Have, okay here here from sixteen, pars it looks like 1108 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: he had a he had an interesting uh. 1109 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 2: Experience in his Mid aam. 1110 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: Qualifier he's downwind two seventy six pin two forty to 1111 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: carry on the eighteenth over. Water it's a par five 1112 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: and it's a very windy, day and he's the second 1113 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: to last group with no live scoring and he's two. 1114 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 2: Over you, know with two qualifier, spots what would you? 1115 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 3: DO I i don't know IF i have enough information. 1116 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 3: THERE i think you need to. Know i'd like to know, 1117 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 3: where you. KNOW i think he probably had, it hopefully 1118 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 3: a general idea of who was in the. Field and 1119 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 3: it depends on where the wind. IS i think that 1120 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 3: if you can hit it two, fifty you, hit you 1121 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 3: go for. It but if if the two forty yardage 1122 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 3: is right on the, BORDER i think you have to 1123 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 3: try to lay up and make birdie the other, way 1124 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 3: because there's nothing worse Than, YEAH i did this in 1125 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 3: A monday qualifier for The Greater Milwaukee. OPEN I i 1126 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 3: THINK i was three or four, under four, under maybe maybe, 1127 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 3: FIVE i, Forget But i'm A monday qualifying And i'm 1128 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 3: on the eighteenth three AND i look at my buddy 1129 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 3: who's cadding for, me And i'm, like, DUDE i have 1130 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 3: like a thirty footer. Downhill i'm, like, dude IF i 1131 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 3: make this, Putt i'm going to play in a tour. 1132 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 3: Event he's like, yeah. Yeah So i'm, LIKE i ram 1133 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 3: it ten feet, by you, Know i'm, like, oh, man come, 1134 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 3: back miss the comebacker tap. In HAD i just two, 1135 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 3: PUTTED i would have been in a. Playoff so you 1136 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 3: never want. It you never want, to you, know count your. 1137 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 3: CHICKENS i unless it's you can you can miss it 1138 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 3: and hit it two, FORTY i would probably lay. Up. 1139 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: YEAH i think in, general thinking numbers is the complete 1140 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: wrong way to play a. Qualifier something that's helped me 1141 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: recently with qualifiers is THAT i don't think about my. 1142 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: SCORE i just simply say to, myself AM i playing? 1143 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 1: Well and If i'm playing, well no matter what my score, 1144 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: Is i'm probably going to be very close or like you, 1145 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: know if it's at state, Level i'm going to get. 1146 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: In at A usga, Level i'm probably going to be somewhat, 1147 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 1: close AND i just need some putts to go. 1148 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,959 Speaker 2: In so because like you don't know. 1149 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: What the number is ever going to be and even 1150 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: thinking about the number is just wasting your time and 1151 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: taking you out of what the psychologists say is. 1152 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 2: The, moment you. 1153 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: Know SO i would say that the first Question i'd 1154 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: ask myself, is especially like on a wendy, day AM 1155 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: i playing very? 1156 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 2: Well if you're playing very, well you're probably in a good. 1157 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Spot LIKE i, think think back to like The Lakeshore midam, 1158 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: thing like WHERE i played really well last year in 1159 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: This midham thing AND i shot seventy on a really, 1160 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: tough windy, Day LIKE i was walking off that. COURSE 1161 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: i would never think like on a regular day like 1162 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 1: seventy is going to be the medalist ends up being 1163 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the medalist because it was a tough. Day BUT i 1164 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: KNEW i played great. Golf so it's like a number 1165 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: doesn't really. Matter it matters how you, play, RIGHT i sixteen? 1166 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 3: Parts please tweet us and let us know what you. 1167 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 3: Did i'm curious to see how that. Ended let's get. 1168 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 2: A couple more and we'll get out of. Here we 1169 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 2: touched on the. Ball let's do. 1170 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: How about we say, overrated underrated playing tournament golf from 1171 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: some guy Named, Tony. 1172 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 3: Well some guy Named. TONY i think playing tournament. GOLF 1173 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 3: i want to SAY i think. Underrated it's really fun to, 1174 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 3: compete and not necessarily against other, people but it's fun 1175 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 3: to see how like you mentally handle. SITUATIONS i think 1176 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 3: it's beneficial, too you, know as a, trader it's beneficial 1177 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 3: to me to know HOW i react to certain things 1178 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 3: and CAN i you, know keep cool and calm when 1179 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 3: things aren't going. Right SO i think IT'S i think it's. 1180 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 3: UNDERRATED i think it has value to other parts of your. 1181 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 3: LIFE i think that you, know you make a lot 1182 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 3: of good, friends So i'm going to say. 1183 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 2: Underrated, YEAH i think underrated. 1184 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: TOO i think it obviously helps your your golf. GAME 1185 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: i actually have like a problem now WHERE i don't 1186 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: play as well casual as a casual golfer AS i 1187 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: do as a tournament golfer BECAUSE i just don't. Focus 1188 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: but that's. Fine i'm not out there playing on A 1189 01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: saturday morning to like grind out a, score, right more 1190 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: so to have. FUN i THINK i completely agree with 1191 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: helping other parts of your. Life LIKE i used to 1192 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: be in sales. 1193 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 2: And just like being, calm like that's the biggest, thing you. 1194 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: KNOW i used to run a little hot on the 1195 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: golf course and and, NOW i mean you eventually realize 1196 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 1: like it doesn't really, matter but it helps you with 1197 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: other aspects of your, life like you, know you have 1198 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 1: to you have to stay. 1199 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 3: Cool ride's discipline. TOO i, MEAN i know that you're 1200 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 3: probably not going to have fourteen beers with a nine 1201 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 3: am t time in a tournament the next, day so you, 1202 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 3: know you got to go to bed early on A 1203 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 3: friday night and get ready to play the next. Day 1204 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 3: SO i think it helps. Discipline, yeah keep you. Discipline Ryan, 1205 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 3: hennessy this is a good. 1206 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Question why doesn't the low am at The masters get 1207 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 1: an invite to the next? Year is it because they 1208 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: assume that he turns pro After obviously it's it's point 1209 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: to big Stew. 1210 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 3: I'm curious if they assume, that, obviously we don't. KNOW 1211 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 3: i guess they probably, be DO i think they. Should 1212 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 3: they're very, obviously very pro, amateur AND i think they 1213 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 3: could put a caveat in there that the low am 1214 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 3: gets an invite next, year provided he's still an. Am 1215 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 3: that would be interesting because it must be such a 1216 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 3: cool experience that guys might even hold off on turning. 1217 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 3: PRO i wonder if that would you, know it's just you, 1218 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 3: know you play well on the you know you're low, 1219 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 3: am that's. Fine you play well the next year in The. 1220 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 3: Masters you, know you could make millions in sponsor money 1221 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 3: versus you, know grinding out a year on you, know 1222 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 3: the mini. Tours BUT i Think i'm all for. THAT 1223 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 3: i think the low am should get an invite the following. 1224 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 2: Year, YEAH i. 1225 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: AGREE i don't think a lot of people would stay pro. 1226 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: LIKE i think it's just cool for a guy Like. 1227 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: HAGASTAD i, mean obviously he, uh nobody expected him to 1228 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: be the low am At augusta and he played great 1229 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,439 Speaker 1: golf for four days and the act that he is still, 1230 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Amateur like why wouldn't you get? That and it would 1231 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: be for like cool, Parents like obviously THE usam champ 1232 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: gets to play with the Reigning masters champ and is 1233 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: it THE Us open? Champ, yes and so like that's that's. 1234 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: Cool but then you could have like the low am 1235 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 1: gets to play with like THE usm runner up and somebody. 1236 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Else so maybe may you do THE usm runner up 1237 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: and The master's runner. 1238 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 2: Up from the year. 1239 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 3: Before that would be. 1240 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Cool, Sure So i'm in on, that all, right let's, uh. 1241 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 3: How about this one From will, Says, Hi, ANDY i 1242 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 3: had this discussion recently with a. Friend i'm about a 1243 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 3: ten handicap in my mid. Twenties IF i quit my, 1244 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 3: job hired one of the top swing instructors in the, 1245 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 3: world and worked on my game full, time how good 1246 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 3: COULD i reasonably expect to get IN x amount of 1247 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 3: time a, year three, years five, years assume money isn't 1248 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 3: a part as far as equipment and course access. Goes 1249 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 3: COULD i expect to get to A Pga tour level 1250 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 3: of Play Web tour level or just be really good 1251 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 3: amateur at my? Club how much of golf do you 1252 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 3: think is natural talent and ability versus dedication and. Practice 1253 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 3: enjoy the, pod keep up the good, Work, Will. 1254 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: All, right this is a great, question AND i think you, 1255 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 1: KNOW i think some people have tried to do. This, 1256 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 1: NOW i would say that you're never going to get 1257 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: to A Web tour level or even. 1258 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Like A Latin American tour. 1259 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: LEVEL i think your swing's going to have some flaws 1260 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: that are going to take a very long time to. 1261 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 1: Fix and the biggest thing is that you've missed out 1262 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: on reps for end of fifteen years that those guys 1263 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: have had the end not to mention all of the 1264 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 1: tournament golf experience like that can't go, without you, know 1265 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 1: like you can't under you can't overrate that. 1266 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 2: Enough SO i would say that you're never going. 1267 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 1: To get to a pro golf, level like of a 1268 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,479 Speaker 1: touring pro golf. LEVEL i think you would become very. 1269 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 1: GOOD i think a year in you could probably expect 1270 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: to be down to a four or five. HANDICAP i 1271 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 1: think three years in you could be a good state 1272 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: level amateur. Player AND i think five years in you 1273 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: could begin, to you, know be playing in like you 1274 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: have chances to play in like THE us mid m 1275 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 1: at that. 1276 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 2: Level what do. 1277 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 3: You Think i'm going to, Say i'm. NOT i think 1278 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 3: that you're right on THE Pga, Tour Web tour. LEVEL 1279 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,919 Speaker 3: i don't want to say it's zero, percent because there's 1280 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 3: always a, chance BUT i would put it under one. 1281 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 3: Percent you, know from a ten, HANDICAP i, think you, 1282 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 3: know it's hard. ENOUGH i know some guys that have 1283 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 3: been you, know plus one, scratches plus two's and tried 1284 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 3: to do, that and you know they. Haven't they haven't 1285 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 3: had much. Luck so coming from a ten without the 1286 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 3: reps That andy mentioned makes it even. HARDER i think 1287 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 3: in a, year golf's a hard, game AND i think 1288 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 3: in a year you could go from ten to four 1289 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 3: probably and then three years maybe four to, scratch and 1290 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 3: five years you could probably be playing in state. TOURNAMENTS 1291 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 3: i don't know if you could be at the top 1292 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 3: of that because you are competing against guys that practice 1293 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 3: a lot and they've been playing tournament golf for twenty thirty. 1294 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 3: Years so it's. TOUGH i, mean it's definitely, doable, THOUGH 1295 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 3: i mean it's. Not that's what's so great about golf 1296 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 3: is you could you, could you, know be one of 1297 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 3: the best senior ams in the world in twenty five. 1298 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 3: Years there's no doubt about. That but in terms of 1299 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 3: within the next five, YEARS i think that that's. Tough that's. 1300 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Tough so, yeah like a good, EXAMPLE i have a 1301 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 1: buddy friend of the, pod his name is he played 1302 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: minor league baseball his and he he's a buddy of 1303 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 1: a buddy of, mine like from high. School they played 1304 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 1: high school golf. Together so he was a high school. 1305 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: Golfer he, was you, know once upon a, time a 1306 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 1: two handicap in high, school and he played minor league, 1307 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 1: baseball AND i remember playing with him right after he 1308 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 1: quit minor league, baseball and he was like a six 1309 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,679 Speaker 1: or an eight, Handicap like he wasn't you, know, great 1310 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: but he had like he murdered the. Ball and within 1311 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,760 Speaker 1: two years he was down to like a two or a, 1312 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,679 Speaker 1: one like back to his high school, level and within 1313 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: four years he was at a plus handicap. Level but 1314 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 1: this is a guy that was already had a lot 1315 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,799 Speaker 1: of the reps and the, skill but you, know had 1316 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 1: fallen down because of a lack of. 1317 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,679 Speaker 2: Playing so and he has a ton of athletic, Ability 1318 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,759 Speaker 2: like he hits. 1319 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: The ball like three hundred and fifty, Yards so THAT 1320 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: i would, SAY i think YOU'RE i think you're right 1321 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 1: five years that you probably a state competitor with like 1322 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 1: a very outside chance to qualify for like A us 1323 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: madan mm hm so. 1324 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 3: So on this question that wasn't isn't is It Jason? 1325 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 3: Bone did he do? This didn't he make a hole in? 1326 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 3: One or is? That is? That What i'm thinking. 1327 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 2: Is Scott. 1328 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 1: Piercy didn't He, Well Scott, PIERCY i think was trying 1329 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: to play pro golf and he won like a million 1330 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: dollar thing In. 1331 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 2: Vegas and that's how. 1332 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 3: Oh, No, yeah that's. DIFFERENT i Think Jason, bone If i'm, 1333 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 3: RIGHT i know. SOMEBODY i think It's Ja, bone you, 1334 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 3: know made a hole on, one basically quit his job 1335 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 3: and worked real hard for a few years and made the. 1336 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 3: Tour BUT i think he was obviously a great golfer. 1337 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 3: Beforehand maybe. Not, maybe you, know the money was a 1338 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 3: big hindrance to him getting at the next, level and 1339 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:50,800 Speaker 3: then once he got, it he was able to do. 1340 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 3: It BUT i feel like that's. 1341 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: Right, YEAH i think if if if you're like a 1342 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: plus three and it happened like or a plus, two 1343 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 1: like you've got a small. 1344 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 3: Chance but it's still SO I i you, KNOW i have. 1345 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 3: Buddies i'm thirty three, now SO i graduated eleven years. 1346 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 3: AGO i have buddies THAT i graduated with still playing 1347 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 3: mini tour golf and they are, playing you, know full 1348 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 3: time for eleven, years great talented, players and still you, 1349 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 3: know haven't played on The web OR Pga. Tour so 1350 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 3: it's JUST i mean to expect to do that is 1351 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 3: it's not in the realm of. 1352 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: Happening that's like the hosibility nobody, understands, like you, know 1353 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: LIKE I i played with a buddy of mine who's 1354 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: played full time on the web this, year AND i 1355 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: played really good golf and shot like seventy one that, 1356 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,719 Speaker 1: day and he made a double bogie and shot sixty 1357 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: seven and who that? Means, Yeah and it's just, like you, 1358 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: know LIKE i DON'T i don't have that in. THERE 1359 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 1: i always say that they're like a Deep they're like 1360 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 1: a nuclear Sub like they get under the water and 1361 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 1: they can go as low as you they. Want And 1362 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 1: i'm a, snorkeler so. 1363 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 3: Just dabble a little. 1364 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 2: BIT i can get down. There you. 1365 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,679 Speaker 1: Know SOMETIMES i spend a lot of time above, water 1366 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 1: and then WHEN i get get below, water like IF 1367 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 1: i get too far, under Like i'm getting water down 1368 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 1: the snorkel tube And i'm coming. 1369 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 3: UP i like that analogy. Snorkeler so all, RIGHT. 1370 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 2: I think that's, uh we got to most of. It 1371 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 2: thanks for all the questions. Ones, yeah if you want. 1372 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 2: To you, know we do this. 1373 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,839 Speaker 1: Pretty, regularly so if you want, to you can email 1374 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: them to us, too if you have a long, question 1375 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 1: if you if you just tweet at, Me i'm not very, 1376 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: organized so so if you if you want to question 1377 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 1: in the best way to do is. Email if if 1378 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: it's not associated to a thread WHERE i where we 1379 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 1: are ask for. Questions So, kyle thanks for coming. 1380 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 3: On, yeah thanks for having. 1381 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 2: Me good to have you. Back, hey it's glad you're 1382 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 2: safe and sound down there In. 1383 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 3: Florida and thanks all right, later see you, guys