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Speaker 4: They're real, They're not for fake bro.
Speaker 5: And and Lee's issues are far beyond anybody's woldest imaginations
Speaker 5: of what any His issues are horribly bad, Bro.
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Speaker 4: Lee is very confusing. So he's very confusing.
Speaker 2: All right, so good? Yeah, there's there's just a lot.
Speaker 5: I wish people could hear what just happened bad. Just
Speaker 5: Lee is a very confusing person.
Speaker 4: Man, I mean he, I mean he he takes.
Speaker 5: That that that viral story and puts it on steroids.
Speaker 4: Are you proud of who you are?
Speaker 5: Lee, like honestly, like speaking to the mic, like like
Speaker 5: the person that you do you do you do? More?
Speaker 4: Like do you look in the mirror in the morning,
Speaker 4: do you look at you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: No, I avoid that. Do you ever look at yourself? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm happy.
Speaker 5: So when you look in the mirror, you're like, you
Speaker 5: like the person that's looking back at you. Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: a good dude. You feel good about it. I feel good.
Speaker 5: And then you go into your day. You step into
Speaker 5: your day and it's like, let's go have a good one.
Speaker 5: I live my best life.
Speaker 4: Bark all right, Okay, let's let's let's let's do the show.
Speaker 5: So that you do know that that makes me lose
Speaker 5: a little bit of belief in humanity. You do know that, right?
Speaker 5: That's his that's his conclusion when he looked in the mirror.
Speaker 5: We need little, we need only a little bit only. No,
Speaker 5: I'm just saying you said only a little more for you,
Speaker 5: it should be more. I'm not judging him either way,
Speaker 5: that's not I would like to think I'm not judging him,
Speaker 5: but that's disturbing.
Speaker 3: I'm all for variety, you know, and uh, we need
Speaker 3: a little bit of everything in this world.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's what you call it? Okay?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Now speaking of a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3: Yes, college football has got this NIL stuff going on, which.
Speaker 4: Love this stuff.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, the President of the United States, plans to
Speaker 3: sign an executive order establishing national standards for name, image,
Speaker 3: and likeness initiatives, according to CBS News.
Speaker 2: So wh with that being said, this is where you
Speaker 2: turn it over to Braden T.
Speaker 3: Quinn to explain to us when we are going to
Speaker 3: get to the point to where we all know what
Speaker 3: the rules are, we all understand what the parameters are,
Speaker 3: and we can just move forward as opposed to the
Speaker 3: back and forth. It is constantly happening. Who's violating what?
Speaker 3: Wisconsin player is suing my like all the other things
Speaker 3: that come along with NIL over the past couple of years.
Speaker 6: You are fake is oh thank you for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So, I don't want to get too much into the weeds.
Speaker 7: But here are, like the layman's terms, things that need
Speaker 7: to be addressed, and I think he's trying to address
Speaker 7: this with this executive order. The first is uniformity, meaning
Speaker 7: if you go state to state and LeVar you know
Speaker 7: this like high school eligibility for NIL and college NIL
Speaker 7: rules they're different, Yeah, difference, which one of the things
Speaker 7: that's occurred now is, yes, we have the revenue shape
Speaker 7: which all the schools have to you know, share twenty
Speaker 7: and a half million with their student athletes. However, there's
Speaker 7: still space for the NIL or collectives to operate and
Speaker 7: so state by state that can vary drastically. And what
Speaker 7: they're trying to do is create a level play field
Speaker 7: and not so much less so there's a salary cap
Speaker 7: per se, but at least the rules are even, you know,
Speaker 7: going across the country, as opposed to some states where
Speaker 7: if you are an in state college and you have
Speaker 7: kids who can earn money in NIL in high school,
Speaker 7: those kids should never ever leave that state. If you
Speaker 7: have any alumni boosters who are able to then you know,
Speaker 7: help these kids at an NIL level in high school,
Speaker 7: this should probably pave the way for them to go
Speaker 7: to that same school in the same state. So you
Speaker 7: could see how that example could create a major advantage.
Speaker 6: In one state versus the others.
Speaker 7: The others the anti trust protections, so obviously they want
Speaker 7: to protect a lot of the college leaders right now
Speaker 7: from anti trust law to ensure like the long term
Speaker 7: scholarship availability and opportunities are there for the student athletes.
Speaker 7: Like that's kind of getting forgotten in the wayside is
Speaker 7: everyone wants to talk about the money, and yes, scholarships
Speaker 7: equate two dollar signs. However, we want to make sure
Speaker 7: that that that's always protected and that doesn't go away
Speaker 7: because a lot of these schools now with the money
Speaker 7: that they're sharing in some cases there those are going
Speaker 7: to scholarships, which which is great. Right kids are able
Speaker 7: to go play sports, get a free education, and leave
Speaker 7: school with a degree and not be any debt.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 7: They're still trying to figure out the financial component to it.
Speaker 7: If you have a kid, for example, who's going to
Speaker 7: school and making a bunch of money off nil, they
Speaker 7: still want there to be some sort of component that
Speaker 7: ties them to having to get their education. And I
Speaker 7: think it's a good thing, you know, I think we're
Speaker 7: getting away from what college sports is supposed to be
Speaker 7: and that's development, not only as an athlete but as
Speaker 7: a person. And you know, sports are short lived for
Speaker 7: most so after that you've got to have a plan.
Speaker 7: You don't want to have there to be a bunch
Speaker 7: of pitfalls. And then last thing, probably more than anything, else,
Speaker 7: uh is the athlete excuse me, athlete employment status, how
Speaker 7: that would potentially work with like the National Labor Relations Board.
Speaker 6: There's been a lot of.
Speaker 7: Talk about them potentially unionizing and how that's gonna work
Speaker 7: since they're essentially employees.
Speaker 4: So that's one thing.
Speaker 7: And then the agent regulation, like the agents in this
Speaker 7: and again, LeVar, you could speak to this firsthand.
Speaker 6: It's a nasty world. It's a nasty business with cities.
Speaker 5: Agents horrible at the college level, and at they are
Speaker 5: signing high school kids. They're signing high school kids. They're
Speaker 5: representing high school kids. Now, so you're now talking about
Speaker 5: the whole air quotes agency business, the manager air quotes,
Speaker 5: the managing business. Everybody's starting up a practice, every everybody.
Speaker 5: If you got a couple dollars the rub together, you
Speaker 5: got a bag you could deliver.
Speaker 4: All you gotta do is get one. You only gotta
Speaker 4: land one time you land.
Speaker 5: If you land, you what Drew Rosenhaus landed Michael Irving,
Speaker 5: it triggered the growth.
Speaker 4: You know, you get a Michael I believe so. I
Speaker 4: believe that's how I believe.
Speaker 5: So I could be wrong, but but that might have
Speaker 5: been his first big client I'm just saying, if you
Speaker 5: can get a guy that's going to be a potential
Speaker 5: first round draft pick, or you get a guy you're
Speaker 5: you're representing in high school and he ends up becoming.
Speaker 4: A high profile athlete, you've you've basically.
Speaker 5: In essence, given yourself a chance to have a successful startup.
Speaker 5: It's it's crazy because for that to be maybe the
Speaker 5: sun shining on a dog's ass one time in its life.
Speaker 5: Think about all of the families that are are going
Speaker 5: to be impacted and affected by the decisions of these agents,
Speaker 5: air quotes, agencies, these manager there are going. I said
Speaker 5: this when NIL came about, and I don't know if
Speaker 5: y'all remember this, I said that the NIL is going
Speaker 5: it's going to be almost as bad as a drug epidemic.
Speaker 5: It's going to tear families and communities apart. It's going
Speaker 5: to tear the sports community, and it's going to tear
Speaker 5: sports families apart. I said that when when NIL just
Speaker 5: got going, and I stand on that. I stand on
Speaker 5: that it is literally going to destroy families. Money and
Speaker 5: sports has always been a great determining factor in families,
Speaker 5: dynamics relationships. Now you add money where it's not illegal.
Speaker 5: You add money where people can come from all over
Speaker 5: the different places and offer a gain. They can offer
Speaker 5: opportunity to these families and knowing the dire need that
Speaker 5: these families have, how bad off some of these families
Speaker 5: really are, you are you are in essence, basically, you
Speaker 5: are ruining. This is permission to ruin families because you're
Speaker 5: gonna choose the money over your kid. You're gonna choose
Speaker 5: the money over your family. You're gonna choose the money
Speaker 5: and the opportunities over everything else. So it's it's it's
Speaker 5: crazy to me that that there isn't more of a
Speaker 5: real approach to making sure that this is as regulated
Speaker 5: as it can possibly be because it's so open, it's
Speaker 5: so out of control, it's so not governed that all
Speaker 5: it takes is the highest bidder, and you can ruin
Speaker 5: a family. Highest bidder ruins the family because we're gonna
Speaker 5: come take your We're gonna come take your athlete, We're
Speaker 5: gonna come take your son. It should be your son.
Speaker 5: But it's it's a commodity. It's now or an asset,
Speaker 5: and that's it's a it's a sad commentary.
Speaker 7: So what they're trying to do is to create you know,
Speaker 7: more of a vetting process so it can be legitimized.
Speaker 7: And and again in doing that, a union would probably help.
Speaker 7: Now we're seeing the bad of the NFLPA union and
Speaker 7: how unions sometimes can make mistakes and not you know,
Speaker 7: operate in the best way for their union members or employees.
Speaker 7: But in this case, it's necessary to create some frameworks.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's just it's too much, it's too wide open,
Speaker 7: it's you know, it's kind of drastic how it changes
Speaker 7: from from place to place. And the NCAA now has
Speaker 7: no control. So this is why there's kind of a
Speaker 7: call for some sort of federal national action to take place.
Speaker 7: And an executor is going to be faster than what
Speaker 7: we're going to find from Congress. As we know, things
Speaker 7: in Congress tend to take a while. So that's that's
Speaker 7: what they're trying to what attempting to do. You know,
Speaker 7: will be challenged in court. I'm sure, I'm sure someone
Speaker 7: will have an issue with it. Someone will challenge something.
Speaker 7: Someone will you know, create a you know, file a lawsuit,
Speaker 7: and you know that it's still won't be solved, but
Speaker 7: at least it'll get us hopefully a little bit closer.
Speaker 6: Uh to the end the end game?
Speaker 5: How and hopefully again, how wild does it get once
Speaker 5: you have to acknowledge it has to be stated that
Speaker 5: they are employees. Where does this go from from there?
Speaker 5: Because to me, it seems as though that is the
Speaker 5: last crack, that is when the water totally takes down
Speaker 5: the wall and the dam is totally broken. When they
Speaker 5: say this college athlete is an employee and who is
Speaker 5: he an employee to Q? Is he an employee? Is
Speaker 5: he independent contractor? Is he an employee to the football team?
Speaker 5: Is he an employee to the university? What is How
Speaker 5: does that work?
Speaker 7: I would assume it be the university. You know, he'd
Speaker 7: be a W two employee to the university, and they
Speaker 7: will create within that working agreement, you know, language that
Speaker 7: you know sets there the standards, and I would assume
Speaker 7: some of those standards or penalties they could face, would
Speaker 7: would involve them not you know, going through a certain
Speaker 7: amount of education, you know, no different than certain jobs
Speaker 7: kind of require that, right, you know, you've got a
Speaker 7: military baseline. Military's part of that. Yeah, there's there's there's
Speaker 7: a number of ways you can look at it, but
Speaker 7: that would be my best guess and and look again,
Speaker 7: I don't know what really will come from this. It
Speaker 7: could be just political posturing. We see that from time
Speaker 7: to time. I mean, remember that whole lawsuit that dude
Speaker 7: in Ohio had about not having noonkick.
Speaker 2: How's that going.
Speaker 6: Have you heard anything from that guy? Has that guy
Speaker 6: said it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: No, I just it.
Speaker 7: That's why you can't read too much into politicians. Now,
Speaker 7: maybe this is different because it's the president of the
Speaker 7: United States, and maybe he can get something done. But
Speaker 7: I don't know. We'll see where all of this goes.
Speaker 7: I'm hopeful, I'll put it that way.
Speaker 4: But I know this.
Speaker 7: If it drags on too long, football is gonna everyone's
Speaker 7: gonna forget about it until next five.
Speaker 4: That's true. That is true.
Speaker 3: So, by the way, we're a little over, like less
Speaker 3: than five weeks away from the first games in college football.
Speaker 5: It's like in the forties, right, It's in the forties
Speaker 5: of days. Yeah, man, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 4: White football's back. Better be excited.
Speaker 5: My son took his uh program pictures and like the
Speaker 5: videos that you do, Like when you thirty six days, what.
Speaker 4: Thirty six minutes? That's dope.
Speaker 5: So you know, the the videos when you liked get
Speaker 5: let everybody let's go. You know, you get hyped up.
Speaker 5: You know he did that for the first time. I'm
Speaker 5: kind of like, man, it got you know, I've been
Speaker 5: feel good. Yeah, yeah, man, my guy's got me feeling good.
Speaker 4: Man. So I'm excited to him play for Penn State.
Speaker 4: There it is. Yeah, it's pretty exciting. What up, man, man?
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Speaker 3: Have you are planning on that huh wait a second,
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Speaker 4: That is ridiculous. Now he's eating? Is that little Caesars pizza?
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Speaker 3: Get him on x at Albert Breer, Abe, it's been forever.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I figured you guys just wanted me to follow
Speaker 8: up in the cold play situation.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, Actually, do you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 6: I mean, was it the reaction that got them caught?
Speaker 8: Oh? Yeah, No, I mean I think there's no question
Speaker 8: they had just stood there. Why would anybody post that, right?
Speaker 8: You know what I mean? I guess there's an outside
Speaker 8: chance to get caught that way, and that like maybe
Speaker 8: one of the wife's friends is in the crowd or something, right, Like,
Speaker 8: I guess that's possible, but there's no way like anybody
Speaker 8: would think to post that video if they just stood there,
Speaker 8: or even if they just like waved the camera instead
Speaker 8: and like let go of each other. So cover up
Speaker 8: from the crime, right, Abe?
Speaker 3: You you've been to Julette Stadium many times before, correct?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: All right, So I blame the lighting that that guy
Speaker 3: thought it was his wife, Like is that?
Speaker 4: How are you going with that?
Speaker 8: Or you think they need some stadium? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think I think I.
Speaker 2: Gotta figure that thing out and get that sorted through.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean I couldn't get the best of anybody.
Speaker 5: I guess you did use cover up though, and we
Speaker 5: know that that's why you're coming on to the show.
Speaker 4: Him.
Speaker 3: Uh, I am curious what sort of house cleaning are
Speaker 3: we going to get with this team in the NFL
Speaker 3: called the NFLPA, What sort of a how's this going
Speaker 3: to look now?
Speaker 4: Based based on the now resigning.
Speaker 8: Well, it doesn't look great for sure. And you know,
Speaker 8: I think a huge part of this now is going
Speaker 8: to come down to the players getting people in the
Speaker 8: big and trust and you know, after everything that's happened
Speaker 8: over the last you know, three weeks, the revelation things
Speaker 8: that have happened over the last year or so, over
Speaker 8: the last three weeks, I think be really easy for
Speaker 8: any player to be distrustful of the way the union's working.
Speaker 8: And I think, you know, you go back and you
Speaker 8: look like a couple of things, of course, like the
Speaker 8: the fact that you know, like the NFLPA Andre D.
Speaker 8: Smith like viewed exposing collusion is sort of the holy grail.
Speaker 8: And you know, even though they didn't win that case,
Speaker 8: you know, the chance to expose you know, real evidence
Speaker 8: of collusions. And then you know, helping the NFL cover
Speaker 8: it up never made any sense, you know. And then
Speaker 8: and then you know Lloyd Howell's involvement in the private
Speaker 8: equity firm that was one of the small circle of
Speaker 8: firms that were approved to buy into NFL teams, you know,
Speaker 8: put them extensively in business with the NFL. You know.
Speaker 8: So I mean, look like, I know a lot of
Speaker 8: people don't care about conflict of interest and that sort
Speaker 8: of thing, but you know, the players have to walk
Speaker 8: a very very fine line to get what they want.
Speaker 8: It's I think that the NFLPA has challenges that the
Speaker 8: other sports unions don't have. I think it's more difficult
Speaker 8: for the NFL p A to get what they want
Speaker 8: because of the number of people that are serving, because
Speaker 8: of you know, because the number of players that are
Speaker 8: a non guaranteed contrast, because of the lack of time
Speaker 8: that the bulk of the league spends playing professional football.
Speaker 8: There are a ton of challenges that go into it.
Speaker 8: So they've got a big old mess in their hands now,
Speaker 8: and you know, I would it wouldn't surprise me to
Speaker 8: see somebody like John Davis, next player in the in
Speaker 8: the leadership role for now and then they figure out
Speaker 8: what they're doing going forward.
Speaker 7: One thing that I always think think of in these
Speaker 7: circumstances is, I mean, what so And I've said this
Speaker 7: earlier when we were talking about the subject, like a
Speaker 7: week ago. The PA has always assumed that the ownership,
Speaker 7: the owners were colluding.
Speaker 4: Yep, and then you're you're.
Speaker 6: Basically through all of this have proven that that's the case.
Speaker 4: Yep, what's the what's the recourse?
Speaker 7: I mean, at the end of the day, there's thirty
Speaker 7: one majority owners, there's Green Bay, which is a unique
Speaker 7: ownership group, and the players are the players, and so like,
Speaker 7: what could they do exposing that? That then forces the
Speaker 7: NFL to change and not collude moving forward.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean Brady puts the league's anti trust exemption
Speaker 8: at you know, in peril, which is you know really,
Speaker 8: I mean, it's that's the next extential thing for for
Speaker 8: the NFL. You know. Yeah, this is sort of the
Speaker 8: difference between like, you know, the sports over here and
Speaker 8: say soccer in Europe. You know that they don't deal
Speaker 8: with this because they aren't operating monopolies. They are different
Speaker 8: leagues over there. The player doesn't like the working conditions
Speaker 8: in one league, whether that's money, you know, the environment,
Speaker 8: whatever it is, like being a pull up stakes and
Speaker 8: negotiate to to go play in another league. You know,
Speaker 8: that's not the way it works in North American sports.
Speaker 8: And so you know, to be an operating monopoly, for
Speaker 8: the government to allow you to be in the operating monopoly,
Speaker 8: you have to you have to you know, you have
Speaker 8: to to to you know, achieve certain conditions within your
Speaker 8: working environment. And one of them is that you know,
Speaker 8: the teams aren't working together to suppress you know, working conditions,
Speaker 8: and so you know, I it's it's something that the
Speaker 8: NFL PA, you know, obviously, you know, could could look
Speaker 8: at and say you know, we think that the NFL is
Speaker 8: anti trust exemption should be you know, it should be
Speaker 8: should be looked at, and you know what that would
Speaker 8: give them levers to do I don't know, you know,
Speaker 8: and and and and there's some stuff from a legal
Speaker 8: perspective is probably a little bit over my head, you know,
Speaker 8: but you know, like I mean, if you want to
Speaker 8: go back to the history of it, and you want
Speaker 8: to go, you know, to the sixties, like Paul Pete Roselle,
Speaker 8: you know, getting the anti trust exemption in the first
Speaker 8: place is sort of what set the stage for the
Speaker 8: NFL to become the big television product has become and
Speaker 8: allowed them to do business the way they've done it
Speaker 8: for you know now you know sixty years over sixty years.
Speaker 8: So you know, the the idea that that could be,
Speaker 8: that that could be in any sort of trouble, would
Speaker 8: give the NFL PA, you know, a tremendous amount of
Speaker 8: leverage over the NFL.
Speaker 5: Aybe what what are the chances, Like I'm just I'm
Speaker 5: thinking of this through what my lens would be if
Speaker 5: I hurt this, if I was a part of this
Speaker 5: and I was playing I'm asking my legal team, my
Speaker 5: representation do I have a legal case against the union,
Speaker 5: because I feel like if you expose like you had,
Speaker 5: like you said, Holy Grail, is exposing that there was collusion.
Speaker 5: You've exposed that they do not want to give more
Speaker 5: guarantee money, that directly impacts me potentially, you know, personally, dude.
Speaker 4: Is there a case here for players?
Speaker 5: I would assume certain players are looking at this like,
Speaker 5: if that's what the PA is doing and that's what
Speaker 5: they're agreeing upon, I've been let down and that has
Speaker 5: potentially costed me x amount of potential dollars that I
Speaker 5: can make in the future.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a fair argument. You know, I don't know
Speaker 8: what the again, like I don't know if the legal
Speaker 8: recourse would be there, whether it be a class action
Speaker 8: hosted or something like that. It's obviously it's obviously a
Speaker 8: horrible look, you know, And I think, you know, one
Speaker 8: of the things that's come up, you know, and this
Speaker 8: is the obvious question is like, well, why why would
Speaker 8: the NFL PA cooperate here? And I've heard a couple
Speaker 8: of different things on that. There's the tell's ability to
Speaker 8: pursue legal fees because they didn't win the case, so
Speaker 8: you know, if they could come after I think it
Speaker 8: was twelve million dollars in legal fees, you know, you
Speaker 8: know then and and and and the nfl P can't
Speaker 8: afford to pay that. Could they go to the nfl
Speaker 8: P A and say, well, you know, if you, if you,
Speaker 8: if you, if you uh, if you waive those legal fees,
Speaker 8: if you wave your right to pursue those legal fees,
Speaker 8: then then then then we'll keep it quiet too. That
Speaker 8: could be one. There was the individual case with J. C. Treader,
Speaker 8: which in a poblatory reported on you know, which you
Speaker 8: know it was stemed back to some of the things
Speaker 8: that Trader was found responsible for, and and and and
Speaker 8: talking about running backs and the players of other positions too,
Speaker 8: holding in and taking injuries to to try to gain
Speaker 8: contract leverage. You know that, you know, keeping that one
Speaker 8: quiet and exchange with keeping the other one quiet to
Speaker 8: be part of it too. But in each of these case,
Speaker 8: you know, as I lay those out, like, that's not
Speaker 8: helping the individual players. So if you're making a deal
Speaker 8: either to benefit one person or to benefit the union
Speaker 8: itself rather than the twenty five hundred players, well then
Speaker 8: that's a problem. So again, like LeVar, I'm not sure
Speaker 8: exactly what the recourse would be, whether it be a
Speaker 8: class action looster or something. But you would think that
Speaker 8: a lot of players would be upset about it and
Speaker 8: might let's take action.
Speaker 3: Get him on ex at Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,
Speaker 3: Lead content strategist at the MMQB. You also see him
Speaker 3: on Amazon, NFL on primes coverage. Albert Brier joining us
Speaker 3: here on the Dan Patrick Show, Two Pros and a
Speaker 3: Cup of Joe filling in for Dan and the guys.
Speaker 2: Ab TJ. Watt gets the deal done.
Speaker 4: We know the numbers.
Speaker 3: It's three years, one hundred and twenty three million annually.
Speaker 3: He's a million more than Miles Garrett. All right, so
Speaker 3: now we know that you've got MICHAEH. Parsons, Trey Hendrickson,
Speaker 3: potentially Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 2: Best guess in order, how do these get done?
Speaker 8: Mike get Trey Aiden? Maybe you know, Aiden doesn't Aid
Speaker 8: doesn't have to, He doesn't have to rush into anything.
Speaker 8: Now he's coming back off the broken leg. You know,
Speaker 8: so sometimes for a player psychologically, that could you know,
Speaker 8: make him like have the mindset like I just I
Speaker 8: just want to get mine, So you know, maybe that'd
Speaker 8: be a little bit of a motivator for him, you know.
Speaker 8: But I would think that because you know, Aiden's under
Speaker 8: contract for another two years, I mean, he is coming
Speaker 8: back off the injury, it might behoove him to wait
Speaker 8: to see what happens with Micah and Trey. My guess
Speaker 8: would be Micah goes first, Trey goes second, and Aiden
Speaker 8: goes third. To me, like the least predictable one is Trey.
Speaker 8: I think Micah and Aiden definitely get done. Trey because
Speaker 8: this is stretched over three off seasons, because he's older
Speaker 8: than the other two, because the Bengals have the history
Speaker 8: that they have, because the you're actually handled as far
Speaker 8: as the way that the contracts were set up t
Speaker 8: Higgins and Jamar Chase and in totally different ways more
Speaker 8: Chases deal was structured a little bit like more like
Speaker 8: Joe Burrows, where Higgins was a little bit more like
Speaker 8: the Bengals have always done deals, you know. And the
Speaker 8: fact that this guy is not going to be willing
Speaker 8: to take A'm not going to be as willing to
Speaker 8: take a hometown discount because this has lasted over three offseasons,
Speaker 8: I think it's enormously complicated, and so I would I
Speaker 8: would guess like maybe there's a push to get Aiden
Speaker 8: Hutchinson done here at the start of campus that doesn't work,
Speaker 8: which maybe it won't, then then then you do it
Speaker 8: right before the season, whereas you know, obviously with Micah
Speaker 8: and Trey, there's a little bit more urgency to get
Speaker 8: something done.
Speaker 4: Albert, I'm gonna give you credit, man.
Speaker 6: You called it.
Speaker 7: You said exactly how this second round was going to
Speaker 7: play out. You said, there'll be some guys at the
Speaker 7: top end that will get those guaranteed deals. There'll be
Speaker 7: guys after Alfred Collins, other players who will kind of
Speaker 7: cross over and not get.
Speaker 4: The full guaranteed deals.
Speaker 7: Uh, tell me where you you expected to be the
Speaker 7: biggest issue? Is it forty with Taylor Shuck? Is that
Speaker 7: who you said the other day?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think that that's that's a big one.
Speaker 8: You know. I think you know, because he's a quarterback,
Speaker 8: and quarterbacks is generally handled a little differently, and so
Speaker 8: you know, if if you're if you're Luther Burton at
Speaker 8: thirty nine or Travan Henderson at thirty eight or Jonas
Speaker 8: Ivaina at thirty seven, Like I think part of you know,
Speaker 8: the equation in your head is well, there's a quarterback
Speaker 8: right behind me. And if he's able because of the
Speaker 8: position that he plays, to get one hundred percent of
Speaker 8: his deal fully guaranteed, well, then eye out of weight
Speaker 8: and and and and see what that happens before I
Speaker 8: do anything, you know, So you know, obviously the first
Speaker 8: three guys now are signed. In the first three guys. Yeah,
Speaker 8: in the background, I know, I know, I know, the
Speaker 8: Judgkins thing is is complicated by the legal case. So
Speaker 8: I mean to me, it's you know, it's shuck and
Speaker 8: then and and shuck and Johdkinson because Jakins is held up.
Speaker 8: I think just I think shuck kind of nine.
Speaker 5: Heyb can I revisit the the Michael Parsons and and
Speaker 5: all these contracts because uh, I clearly hit a glitch
Speaker 5: with with Q yesterday. Uh and talking about him waiting
Speaker 5: for or versus it coming to him.
Speaker 6: He's not waiting, he's looking for it.
Speaker 4: He definitely not looking.
Speaker 6: He's not he's not what, I don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well we we definitely had a good time
Speaker 5: with the whole idea of waiting versus expecting and you know,
Speaker 5: whatever it may be. But I'm curious is it. Is
Speaker 5: it reasonable to think that Micah's deal gets done pretty
Speaker 5: soon now that TJ watch is done based upon what
Speaker 5: that looks like.
Speaker 4: If Jerry Jones does the.
Speaker 5: Deal with Micah and then the Steelers come out and
Speaker 5: do a bigger deal with t what.
Speaker 8: It should simplify it. And I'm with you on that. Like,
Speaker 8: but we've seen the Cowboys over the last few years
Speaker 8: and what they went through with Ceedee Lamb and Dak
Speaker 8: Prescott going to the wire last year, and Zach Martin
Speaker 8: had hold that I believe a couple of years ago
Speaker 8: that went deep into August. If you want to go
Speaker 8: further back, there was a there was one with Zeke Elliott,
Speaker 8: you know. So I mean Cowboys, for one reason or another,
Speaker 8: have let these things drag out a little bit. But
Speaker 8: I mean, I think the landscape is set now, you know.
Speaker 8: I mean, I I think it's pretty clear based on
Speaker 8: what TJ. Watt got and what Miles Garrett got where
Speaker 8: you're going to have to go to get something done
Speaker 8: with him, and you know, like to his credit, like
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons, you know, willingness to wait on this and
Speaker 8: willingness to to to see how a couple of these
Speaker 8: others play out only helped his cause that The hard
Speaker 8: thing to wrap your head around is kind of how
Speaker 8: the Cowboys have operated here, because I do think, you know,
Speaker 8: they they paid a price for waiting on deck. They
Speaker 8: do think they paid a price for waiting on CD,
Speaker 8: And I think there's a lesson to be learned here,
Speaker 8: one that the Eagles, like I think, have really kind
Speaker 8: of benefited from and doing their deals early. You know,
Speaker 8: the Cowboys like waiting on almost every case has cost
Speaker 8: them money. So I really like I know that, you know,
Speaker 8: like that that Michael wasn't gonna you know, Mike Michael
Speaker 8: wasn't gonna do anything that wasn't going to be the
Speaker 8: top of the market. At the same time, you know,
Speaker 8: the top of the market has moved quite a bit
Speaker 8: over over the period of time the Cowboys have waited.
Speaker 3: To do this, Albert before I let you go with
Speaker 3: a training camp right around the corner. If you had
Speaker 3: to rank top three storylines you're most sick of talking
Speaker 3: about this offseason?
Speaker 8: What would they be? Can put me on the spot?
Speaker 8: Whoof what am I sick of talking about? Well, the
Speaker 8: Mica thing is up there, because I just it's just honestly,
Speaker 8: and I'm not this maybe it gets you, LeVar, but
Speaker 8: like it's just like it feels like we're replaying where
Speaker 8: we were with Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott last summer.
Speaker 4: Well, that's not fair to take that out.
Speaker 8: I'm just I just like the Cowboys keep putting themselves
Speaker 8: in these situations and it's not easy to explain, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean? Like so so so that'd be
Speaker 8: one I don't know.
Speaker 2: As Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 8: I would have Aaron Rodgers would have been the top
Speaker 8: of the list until like a month ago. But now
Speaker 8: I think it becomes more interesting because now it's like
Speaker 8: what it's going to look like on the field, and
Speaker 8: I don't think like there's any of that weird back
Speaker 8: and forth anymore. I don't know. I'm I'm ready to roll,
Speaker 8: Like I'm ready to just kind of get this started
Speaker 8: and have some things that actually matter start to happen,
Speaker 8: you know what I because I you know, I always
Speaker 8: give these questions this time of year. It's like who's
Speaker 8: your surprise team?
Speaker 4: And else going on, people asking.
Speaker 8: Like people asking like June, and it's like by then
Speaker 8: everything has been covered six ways from Sunday. So nothing's
Speaker 8: a surprising anymore. It's like I could say the Raiders
Speaker 8: and looks they go, oh, that's not really a surprise team. Okay,
Speaker 8: well who is then? You know? So so anyway, it's
Speaker 8: it'll be good to have ask.
Speaker 4: Someone would say the Raiders aren't a surprise team.
Speaker 8: Maybe no, I mean, I know, I know I'm saying
Speaker 8: they would be. But I for example of how everything's covered, Yeah,
Speaker 8: everybody's already covered this stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, well listen, he's ready for training camp. He's tired
Speaker 3: of the BS and you can get him on x at.
Speaker 3: Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB,
Speaker 3: also Amazon, NFL on Prime Insider. AB Appreciate it, man,
Speaker 3: thanksure doing it another day here with us this week,
Speaker 3: and we'll talk to you again next Thursday.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys.
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Speaker 2: Always pop up at the top of your screen. So, Brady,
Speaker 2: what got you on?
Speaker 6: Before we get to that?
Speaker 7: Before we get to that, there's a lot of conversations
Speaker 7: going online the scenes Jonas that you apparently are not
Speaker 7: a part of. So I'm trying to bring you up
Speaker 7: on speed on things, because sometimes when you do something
Speaker 7: so great, you can't help but have a bit of
Speaker 7: a release.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? WHOA Have you guys ever
Speaker 6: experienced something like that?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I need more context?
Speaker 7: Well, Lee, if you could, could you give us a
Speaker 7: little more context right now?
Speaker 6: What's happening out the open?
Speaker 2: I have a little bit of a Scottie Scheffler for you.
Speaker 2: Take a listen to how great this this swing lands done?
Speaker 1: Wind you can get onto the screen the Sheffler.
Speaker 5: Oh, of course, didn't replay it too here.
Speaker 3: Think it's as expelled.
Speaker 4: Let's stick to the golf. Just a little bit of
Speaker 4: wind from behind just helped to ease down the green.
Speaker 2: We talk about these broadcasts, just a little bit of winds.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's well played.
Speaker 5: I mean, clearly there's some straining that takes place when
Speaker 5: you swing the club.
Speaker 7: I guess, right, play golf LeVar, you know, I mean,
Speaker 7: and especially if you're in front of the crowd.
Speaker 6: There's money on the line, you know, a big tournament.
Speaker 7: Like this, a major, there's pressure involved, there's some nerves involved.
Speaker 7: So after you get a decent shot, that might be
Speaker 7: a little something that squeaks out there.
Speaker 4: The way I've never heard anything.
Speaker 7: Did you ever hit a guy before and like pass
Speaker 7: gas as you were hitting him?
Speaker 5: You know, I can't honestly think of any time that
Speaker 5: I've ever even if it may have happened, I can't
Speaker 5: even think of any time that I would have even
Speaker 5: paid attention to it.
Speaker 2: What if you, like, hit a guy and you caused
Speaker 2: him to pass gas?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. It's like snop bubbles
Speaker 4: in the progress.
Speaker 5: It's just something I never stopped to think about until
Speaker 5: this moment, Right, And that's pretty funny, Like that's a funny.
Speaker 5: That's a funny.
Speaker 4: Time to me.
Speaker 2: Where is the mic on him located? Because I mean.
Speaker 7: Boom mics are I don't think it's a boom mic.
Speaker 7: I don't think they actually have a mic on it.
Speaker 3: So it's even louder like the fact that a boom
Speaker 3: mic caught that bro.
Speaker 5: You could be you could be down the hallway and
Speaker 5: if they're pointing a boom mic at you, and it's
Speaker 5: not like you're right next.
Speaker 6: Doing one more time. We're here one more time.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, don't win.
Speaker 1: You can get onto this green the settler.
Speaker 4: It's the lay that gets me. Though.
Speaker 7: To me, it's the it's the length, because that's not
Speaker 7: one that you like squeak out and try to like
Speaker 7: hold back.
Speaker 4: He pushed it, he hit it.
Speaker 6: He was just like, no, he let it happen.
Speaker 4: He came and went. He was like, all right, that happened.
Speaker 3: By the way, how about the discipline of him to
Speaker 3: know that that was there and to still swing the club,
Speaker 3: focus on the shot, and then afterwards all right.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: He definitely was in his follow through, the finish of
Speaker 5: his follow through when it came out.
Speaker 7: Is he the most like lovable golfer? I mean, the
Speaker 7: guy's been arrested. The guy is the best player in
Speaker 7: the world. He just cuts it loose whenever he feels
Speaker 7: it's necessary, I think. And he's like a true family man.
Speaker 7: The last last tournament major he won, he was holding
Speaker 7: his son, who had had a blowout up the back
Speaker 7: of his outfit with crap alt the back.
Speaker 1: Wasn't he the one who set the Master's menu for
Speaker 1: like just barbecue sliders and stuff too?
Speaker 4: He went all Texas with his Master's Coursemanning. He's very Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think he recently said that, like even though like as
Speaker 3: great as he is and he's putting on like a
Speaker 3: historic run, he's just kind of yeah, is this it?
Speaker 5: He's definitely Lee's hero now. I mean, he's got to
Speaker 5: be number one on your list now, Lee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I farted during a cough during the show yesterday.
Speaker 4: O don'tkay, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know that radio really compares to playing a
Speaker 7: sport and farted. I mean, Lee, you fart all the
Speaker 7: time in studio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this was Yeah, but usually I intend to.
Speaker 2: This one was a came with the cough.
Speaker 4: Surprise.
Speaker 7: I'm sure it's not the first time. Back to what
Speaker 7: you said, though, Jonas, he did have a comments in
Speaker 7: regards to when you get on top of the mountain,
Speaker 7: it doesn't last as long as people think, like you
Speaker 7: work your entire life for this moment and then you
Speaker 7: get there and you're like, this is it? Well, what's next?
Speaker 7: What's what's for dinner?
Speaker 4: Tonight.
Speaker 7: You know, it's like he's like, I think that's the
Speaker 7: thing that he was kind of talking through.
Speaker 6: And I think he's been the number one player in
Speaker 6: the world.
Speaker 7: For so long and he's he he's at a point
Speaker 7: where like I feel like when he wants to turn
Speaker 7: it on and play his best, he can beat anyone.
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe ever if I can go that far and
Speaker 7: saying that, but it is to hear him say that
Speaker 7: to like a bunch of people who wish they're in
Speaker 7: his shoes, for him to basically look back at them
Speaker 7: and say, yeah, it's not as fulfilling as you think.
Speaker 3: Ro Aaron Rodgers just said the same thing. Kevin Durant
Speaker 3: said the same thing. Like they kind of looked around
Speaker 3: and said, is this it? Like it's kind of interesting
Speaker 3: because it does a lot of exists.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of CEOs, you know, who build up
Speaker 7: their company, they sell it, they make a bunch of money,
Speaker 7: and they're like, hey, this is what everyone's told me
Speaker 7: is the dream, and I'm here and it doesn't feel
Speaker 7: the way I thought it would.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they call it my name second, and
Speaker 5: it was just like let's go, Like it wasn't like
Speaker 5: I thought in my mind and my dreams, I was
Speaker 5: going to be, you know, crying and falling out and
Speaker 5: my mom would be wiping my face and all that.
Speaker 5: It was just kind of like, yeah, it was just normal.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: It's like all right, like let's go get on stage, like,
Speaker 5: let's all right. I expect it more, though, didn't you know?
Speaker 5: I had to wait a little bit longer. So so
Speaker 5: did you cry after? But you were crying based upon
Speaker 5: waiting longer?
Speaker 6: Not, No, I was it was more of like just
Speaker 6: a whirlwind.
Speaker 7: It was in shock because of how fast things changed
Speaker 7: in about a minute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 5: Anyways, everybody out there, go ahead, make sure you have
Speaker 5: some flagulence with what it is that you do in
Speaker 5: your accomplishment.
Speaker 4: That's that's what I would advise, you know
Speaker 2: Not your coworkers though, please not coworkers.