WEBVTT - Wide Awake ("Dreams Come True" S1 EP 13) 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.600 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith and 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:17.560 Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast. All right, guys, we're back 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:22.720 for another. How is everyone? How are you good? 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.320 So good? Laura, your hair looks amazing. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.360 Thank you. I got layers. It looks go like an onion. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.040 I think it's layers. Is that like a first for 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:33.880 you or something? 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:34.800 Or no? 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:36.920 I just I think I just ignore my hair and 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:38.720 I let it just grow. And it had been like 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.120 just straight and all one thing for such a long 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.000 time because I'm just sort of lazy and I don't 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:44.640 usually schedule haircuts. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.159 So I found amazing than yeah it. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.720 I got my hair done yesterday, but it's the same 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:51.800 haircut I've had since high school, so I don't expect 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:52.760 a lot of it. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:54.960 Well, it always looks good. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.560 Then it's always you're just noticing, like, oh, look mine 0:00:58.640 --> 0:00:59.800 is a little bouncy. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.680 And I try something different than I go never mind, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.919 and then I come exactly where what I know. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.959 To somebody talk me out of bank the next time 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.000 I want to do banks, Just somebody said, no, You've 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.760 done that so many times, Laura, don't do it. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.000 I brought her pictures this time, and I was showing 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.920 them to her. And by the time I showed her 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.800 all the pictures, I said, so, let's just do what 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.880 I have, but just clean it up. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.280 Let's start longer. We can always go shorter instead of 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.440 all these pictures. Let's just take a quarter inch off 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.520 the bottom. All yeah, just take off the dry ends. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.520 But this is a picture I want to look like. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.480 But no, don't really do it now. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.679 I'm just noticing, like, all of a sudden, we all 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.320 have the same length hair right now, and we're kind 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.200 of having the same hair moment. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:44.640 Huh. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:45.720 I never noticed that before. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.920 I think it's a kind of universally flattering length. And 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.680 I think that whenever I try something else, I don't 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.760 have the energy to maintain the haircut. And I brought 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.680 her all, I kept bringing your pictures because here's the thing. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.840 These are curled and styled. These are red carp pictures. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.160 Are you going to do that every day? I am not. Okay, 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:05.760 Then I picture. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.160 I used to pull pictures from like, you know, Vogue, right, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.640 So they spent seven hours on this one shot with 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.320 backlighting and phil and like and then color correction and everything. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.960 I'm like, I like this, and so then they would 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.200 do it or something, and then it's like it never 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.160 looked it because one wash and it just looks like. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.080 Boom and the lighting crew isn't following you around. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.880 Yeah right, and you're not rude of them, dang it. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.640 Yeah, we should just bring in pictures of ourselves on 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.880 better days, like this is when Friedman did my hair? 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:37.880 Can you can you do this for me? 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.160 Way I'm back in nineteen ninety four. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:48.040 Never ends. Oh boy, our desire for that per perfection, 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:54.280 you know, as if we weren't already there enough hair, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:55.800 Let's get to some serious stuff. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.160 Yes, so close to Daphne appearing in this show, which 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.280 I'm super excited about. But for now, we're on episode thirteen, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.680 so it's two episodes away from daff Episode thirteen. We're 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.919 doing a recap today and the episode's title is Dreams 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:16.520 Come True. Episode thirteen sort of landed during sweeps week 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.120 at the time, which is a big like sort of 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:21.560 ratings measurement. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.120 Yeah back when ratings. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.320 And that was the original order, like the show was 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.359 ordered for thirteen episodes, and it was ostensibly maybe the 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.359 last one that they decided to do, except that you'd 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.600 gotten your back nine pickup well. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.960 And this is when you know, like I've talked about 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:40.800 how we weren't doing really well, but we just read 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.680 an article that would touch on later in the show, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.760 but it says about this. It says in this article 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.240 La Times, and in La Times thank you. Following an 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.200 intensive promotional campaign a big July premiere, Melrose took a 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.560 dive and currently ranked at the ty Says ranks for 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.760 at the time, number two out of ninety eight network 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.040 primetime series. I didn't know we were. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:06.200 That, like, no, not number two, number ninety ninety two 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.119 out of ninety that's a difference. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.280 Yeah, I mean, I am. Did it sound like I said? 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.520 Number two? Yeah, ninety two. I'm really. It's really kind 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.640 of miraculous that we made it long enough for you 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.520 guys to come on, and Heather to come on, and 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.880 the show to turn around into a hit. This is 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.040 like these days. Yeah, you would not be given that chance. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.640 We would not have been given a chance. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.880 But this is all starting to fall into place for 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.919 me because we read in that article how low the 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:38.119 ratings were. The stories have been even before now, because 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:45.040 this article appeared October twenty six, nineteen ninety two. This 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.800 episode appeared October twenty eighth, My Birthday, Thank You, nineteen 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.760 ninety two. So it was all and we'll see why 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.000 in this episode, the big story that happens other than 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:00.360 Alice and ignoring red flags but red banner alert. Things 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.279 are starting to pick up. Remember we were saying, like 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.839 it's starting to get like, you know, Michael flirting. Things 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.760 are starting to happen. We're bringing on this guy Keith, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.880 and things are starting already. I think that's the writers 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.400 like starting to what are we going to do? Now 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.120 here are episode thirteen. If they don't get picked up, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.039 they're done forever. So I see like the er, the 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:25.880 energy behind the screen, the scripts recently. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:29.240 Charging Yeah, stories, stories are getting a little bit more steamy. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:34.320 And that is a good segue into the opening scene. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.719 Of this episode from Done Laura. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.760 It opens at the beach house where Allison and Keith 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.480 are waking up making out serious making out body. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.880 Like opens on full on make it and what have 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:47.840 my shoes on the bed? 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.480 And well it's like you're trying to get you already 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.240 did dress for work? You were trying to get out 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:53.919 of the door to work. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.520 He's not bothered to I have to get dressed, and 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.359 I'm like, what is this thing you're wearing with my 0:05:59.440 --> 0:05:59.880 heels on? 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.719 With those really ugly office pumps. They were so not sexy, 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.000 but really they're like so unattractive and were. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.919 Those shoes where it was all about the makeout? 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.040 You guys, It was a. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:20.119 Long, involved makeout and of course, because I'm very mature, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.479 I have my hand over the screen. I'm going no, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.400 I can't wait till you guys have to watch yourself. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.839 It's super uncomfortable. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:32.040 Dread totally. They're making out. She's trying to tear her quickly. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.359 If my son ever misbehaves, which she hasn't, but if 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.120 you ever, I'm going to make him watch this episode. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:38.839 Can you imagine if it's hard on me? 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.000 Can you imagine? What did you make out? 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:47.159 Yeah, nobody's can't want to see their parents therapy for yourself, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:48.000 like did. 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.080 You get grounded? No, but she made me watch her 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:50.680 make out with. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:55.040 Some guy on TV. Super torture and even I can 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.680 see run mom, run, get out of there. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.479 But at the same time, when she's trying to tear 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:07.039 herself away for work, Keith is saying come back tonight. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.880 Alison tries to tell him you know, I really. 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.360 Need to check in at home, my apartment and my friends, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.560 and I just I've got stuff to do. I've been 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.720 here so much. And he says, well, I'd love to 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:17.520 meet your friends. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.280 That's maybe not what she was trying to say, but 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:20.920 she sort. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.520 Of considers it and says, okay, all right, why don't 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.080 you come to Shooters tonight then, so she FTEs him there, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.560 and then we cut to the apartment where she is 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.200 at home in her space with Billy. She's in a 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.680 turquoise dress. At her apartment, she's hustling around and Billy 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.200 is telling her that love is blind and stupid, and 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:40.840 Allison is. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.400 Saying, you don't understand. I am happier than I've ever 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:44.880 been in my entire life. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.760 I loved when he said love is blind and stupid. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:51.440 And I'm yelling like then i've ever been. I'm like, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:55.520 I am so happy. I was like, da, you don't 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.679 sound happy. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:01.040 But she's stomp out a little dense, angry, and I 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.640 love it that she's like it's these two young kids. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.320 Like she's like with her little scrunching matching turquoise, with 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.440 her little dress and her little sweater, and she just 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.120 came out of her little room with all the dolls, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.120 and she's like, you're so immature. You just don't understand. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.880 And he's like, I think you're stupid. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.120 His cereal to get it over with you too, you 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.000 belong together. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.040 Well, he's trying to, he's trying to point it out 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.880 to her that she's not being very smart about this 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.360 whole thing, but she's angrily refusing to listen, so out 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.240 she stumps, and then we cut to shooters. Sandy is 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:34.920 bringing drinks to a guy a. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.040 Little creepy but I think a little nerdy too. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.120 On top of that, well, they wanted to make him 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.600 they wanted to make you think that he wasn't really 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:42.760 he said he was right. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.600 She's got that long, curly hair. I mean, I was 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:52.160 just like, didn't you anyway? Go ahead, Laura? What does 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:53.960 he saying to her? Who is he? 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.280 So he introduces himself as a casting director for a 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:01.040 soap opera called Forever and Tomorrow. Sandy just isn't buying it, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.559 and she's like, yeah, right, you know, and he then says, no, really, 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.520 I really think he got a great look and you 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.439 could be as big as Kim. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.120 Say no more. Yeah, they made up pretty sure that 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:18.160 wasn't it. Yeah, but I heard it like Kim say 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.319 no more. Yeah, And I think it was like Saint. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.439 Elmore or something like that, probably, but the way he 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.800 said it, I was like I wrote down, Kim say 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:26.240 no more. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.920 They did really cast him as some like sleeves ball, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.560 like who has nothing going on? Well that you're like, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.440 as the audience, going eh, gross, because you're not supposed 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.480 to believe yeah, person, I've ever really we're not supposed 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:40.160 to believe it either. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:40.880 Yeah. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.680 So she walks away like yeah, whatever you know, and 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.439 then we pan over and the gang, the rest of 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:50.040 the gang is playing pool, asking Alison some questions about Keith. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:55.600 Did you see that adorable three shot of Sandy, Josie, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.079 and Ronda. I'm mixing all my character in real name. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.840 They were all there that scene at the pool tables because. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:03.920 Shot of them. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.920 Yeah, really cute having everybody altogether. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.520 And Matt is in that scene too, And they're. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.880 Asking Allison about Keith boxers or briefs. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.680 That's like a but I think this is before boxer briefs. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.000 I don't think we had boxer briefs yet. At this time, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.160 it was either boxers or a huge boxers right or 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.960 the then they finally figured out we can combine them 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.000 and make the perfect underpants for men. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.520 Did you guys notice I made I made Doug watch 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.000 this episode with me too, and he noticed, Wow. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.040 Was that like for him? Was he? He? 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:38.840 Well, he's sort of you know, he's just sort of 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.120 funny about stuff, and he's like, wow. I certainly had 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.720 helium voice in that scene, because the minute he speaks 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.280 is like, oh my god, my voice is like so high. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.600 We laughed about that, and I think it's just being 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.640 young and being nervous. So my voice was kind of 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.880 up here, like I'm just so much more grounded at 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.880 this point in my life that my voice is more grounded. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.199 I think we were all to the excitement and you 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.199 don't quite breathe into your center. I don't notice it 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.120 in anybody else, but I noticed the exact same thing. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.800 And you go to your voice class. I remember going 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.719 to voice class and acting class and dropping your down 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.400 and so you're like, okay, I got it. Then you're 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.560 going to set, you're like, oh my god, I can't 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.720 believe that you're going to really go Well, what he 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.839 he's married. I think everybody kind of and you run 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.920 out of air because you're so excited, except. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.560 For except for Grant, Jay is always going to have 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.360 his booming, deep voice. Yes, but I think all the 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.760 characters we're going to notice, Wow, that's like the little kid. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.079 Voice, the little kid version. I know that my character's 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:38.520 going to come off very kid. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:40.760 I can't even wait all that stuff. And I feel 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.080 like we thought that with all the nine o two. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.240 I know people too, like we noticed, Wow, their voices 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.880 really haven't changed yet, Like everybody just seems like little 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.400 kid versions of themselves. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:49.360 Yes, so true. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.760 So here Matt excuses himself from shooters. He says he 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.320 has to attend at dinner date. Allison then admits to 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.959 the girls that Keith is married. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.360 She's really bad timing right, like he's about to commit either. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.280 Don't tell them because why would I be surprised that 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.120 my married friend is not. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:09.880 A fan disappointed? 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.440 And why would I think that Jane would be anything 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:14.439 but annoyed with me? 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.840 I kept thinking that all the way through the episode. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.440 Why would she tell anyone? Why would she did she 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.160 tell her boss? Why does she tell Billy? Like? Why, dummy? 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:25.360 Do you know what I mean? 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.600 I guess she's acknowledging the red flag, but not really 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.000 undling it correctly. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.160 Yeah. I think that she gets to it in the 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.520 last scene, kind of gets to why. But I was 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.960 thinking the same thing, like, either don't tell everybody or 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:42.199 do something about it. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:43.120 Yeah. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.559 So she's talking with the gang and Jane sort of says, well, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.200 I'm assuming that Keith and his wife are separated, and 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.000 Allison says, well, no, but the marriage is dead. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.760 Yeah, and they're not exactly. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:55.719 She doesn't understand him. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.839 Everyone's like, hmmm, they're not quite convinced on that. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:00.960 You know. I love court that she says about it. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.520 She said it so declaratively, as like the marriage is dead. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.959 Like, yeah, that's so defensive. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.120 Yeah, that's a thing, you dummies. It's a repeating the word, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.839 you know, the marriage is dead. Not a not a 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.440 great time for Keith to enter the scene, but he does, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:20.360 and it is super awkward and Alison is not really 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.160 interested in staying for all that awkwardness, so she says, 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:24.040 you know what, let's. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.160 Just go and let's just go home. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.240 And after they leave, Jeane says to RNDA that Keith 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.800 is going to break Allison's heart and. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.920 I thought that was so sweet. That she's not saying 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.959 Allison shouldn't do that, She's just having compassion for Alison. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.199 That's a really good, generous friend. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.760 That's sweet, And I love like Melose's Place is about friendship. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.840 It's about That's what the whole background is, you know, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.480 through all of the years is on and I just 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.679 love that they explore in all these situations like what 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.760 she does choose to tell her two girlfriends and what 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.000 do they do? You know what I mean, like you 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.439 watching it, going like what would I do in that situation? 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.240 What when my friends what are they supposed to do? 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.160 Like are they supposed to just back me and something 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.200 they don't support? So I just thought it was interesting 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.400 that these writers are always writing different situations and you 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.400 get to see like if these friends, you know, acted 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.280 like your friends did in life, or if you know, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.160 if you can't, oh you can't trust them. I don't know. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.240 I just thought that was textered and interesting. They didn't 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.880 just blankly, you know, shut her down or support her. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.320 I wonder if the network, like even though our ratings 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.320 were love, if the network noticed the show was getting 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.080 better and better and better, Because I see the show 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.480 getting better and better and better. So maybe they noticed 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.320 it and thought, oh, because that was when they would 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.640 actually talk about things, not just the ratings, like yeah, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.600 but the show's maybe we can find an audience. We're 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:43.480 so lucky they did. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.680 Yeah, But it's also like there's a delay, like the ratings. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.240 I think there's like a delay, like you have to 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.520 have a couple of great episodes that people start talking 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.520 about to go, oh, no, more people come to n in. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.760 Even though there were number ninety two of ninety eight. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.080 It's like because of the episodes. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.200 That led up to that, like you know, it was 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.880 the cumulative lead up, and then I think when it 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.280 turns around, it's just like a slow rise of like 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.360 catching up. So yeah, I agree, the episodes are getting better, 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:10.520 but the numbers. 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.920 When we were on for years, I remember, you know Chip, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.000 whenever Chip, our producer, would walk on set, you know, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.680 everyone ask him what were our numbers last night? What 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.280 were they last night? You know what I mean. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.240 But also Fox at the time had lower numbers, They 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.880 had fewer markets, so they didn't have as high expectations. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.320 But even considering that ninety two of ninety eight is 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:32.080 not great. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:32.640 Not great. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.520 No, this episode being our sweep sweek episode, trying to, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.360 you know, bump things up, and we're just getting to 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:45.480 the scene that everybody's going to start talking about. Matt 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.200 is exiting the bar where he's been with his date 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.720 and the guys hug goodbye, while three other guys sort 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.280 of on the street clock them hugging, and then they 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.520 follow Matt, calling him queer boy and taunting him, and 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.920 Matt him to lay off, and then they start swinging 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.880 and Matt manages to land a punch of his own 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.880 and he's fighting off these three guys, but the three 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.160 guys kind of beat him up, kicking him and leaving 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:12.200 him bleeding on the side. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.440 Super violent, superer violent. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.120 Yeah, they really they did not hold back. That was 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.160 hard for me to watch. What was it like for you, Laura, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.120 I imagine. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.600 Yeah, I mean it was it was It was like 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.280 a it was the first time we'd seen anything like 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.680 that on the show, like the super violent, like we're 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.640 going to see it all and you know, and Matt 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.080 was trying to defend himself, but he's you know, he's 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:39.480 got three guys who clearly are after him and targeted him. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.440 And this is what this We can bring up the 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.920 article now that the article in the La Times because 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.680 this was a big deal, was called Melrose to tackle 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.040 gay bashing television. The homosexual character on Fox's Melrose Place 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.920 takes center stage when he is publicly assaulted and fired 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.880 from his job. So that comes later a little bit 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.119 of a spoiler, but like, this is all at the 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.960 top of in the zeigs. This was happening, and our 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:09.679 show took it on. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.960 Yeah, a huge, huge storyline for our gay character, Matt, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.840 and so yeah, so he's left on the sidewalk bleeding, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.399 and we cut to Jane and Michael and they're talking 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.400 in bed about Allison and her affair with a married man, 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:27.960 and Michael. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.320 Then says, well, it's only human. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.240 You know, I've read anough choir magazine that two thirds 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.800 of married men have affairs that can't be right. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.200 And Jane is like what. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.640 And he then sort of tries to backpedal and saying, well, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.680 you know, I'm not talking about myself. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.879 But you know, in this episode at least. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.000 Yeah, and then the and then he sort of turns 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.360 it around tried to say, well, Jane, you can't possibly 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.960 say that you've never noticed another attractive guy. I mean, like, 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:55.760 what about you and Jane considered present and she's like, okay. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.840 Well may maybe once or twice. And then he's like, 0:17:58.840 --> 0:17:59.400 well what. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.480 So they had this like sort of comedy back and 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.200 forth of like wait what. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:03.679 You have but. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.320 You oh, you know, they were sleeping. They were sleeping 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.520 and they're in bed, and when she brings it up 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.119 and she flips on the light, she's like, what do 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.800 you mean It's normal human behavior. And then he's like, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.919 come on, you can't say you haven't been attracted. He's 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.520 trying to way to sleep, and then she goes, oh yeah, 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.240 maybe yeah, once or twice, and then she goes to 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.720 bed like okay, we're done. And then he's like it's silent, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.119 beat beat beat, What do you mean once or twice? 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:33.080 Who you know? He's like, she's got his attention finally, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.320 like love. I don't know if you guys notice that. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:39.879 Do you think they're setting the stage for his future shenanigans? 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:41.080 Probably? 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.240 I mean it feels like a couple episodes they've been 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.600 sort of alluding to it a little a little ways 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.840 where she's sort of filting her head going wait, what 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.400 would you just say? What do you mean? I should 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.040