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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith and

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Speaker 1: Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast. All right, guys, we're back

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Speaker 1: for another. How is everyone? How are you good?

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Speaker 2: So good? Laura, your hair looks amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I got layers. It looks go like an onion.

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Speaker 1: I think it's layers. Is that like a first for

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Speaker 1: you or something?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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Speaker 3: I just I think I just ignore my hair and

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Speaker 3: I let it just grow. And it had been like

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Speaker 3: just straight and all one thing for such a long

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Speaker 3: time because I'm just sort of lazy and I don't

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Speaker 3: usually schedule haircuts.

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Speaker 1: So I found amazing than yeah it.

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Speaker 2: I got my hair done yesterday, but it's the same

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Speaker 2: haircut I've had since high school, so I don't expect

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Speaker 2: a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it always looks good.

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Speaker 3: Then it's always you're just noticing, like, oh, look mine

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Speaker 3: is a little bouncy.

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Speaker 2: And I try something different than I go never mind,

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Speaker 2: and then I come exactly where what I know.

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Speaker 3: To somebody talk me out of bank the next time

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Speaker 3: I want to do banks, Just somebody said, no, You've

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Speaker 3: done that so many times, Laura, don't do it.

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Speaker 2: I brought her pictures this time, and I was showing

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Speaker 2: them to her. And by the time I showed her

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Speaker 2: all the pictures, I said, so, let's just do what

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Speaker 2: I have, but just clean it up.

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Speaker 1: Let's start longer. We can always go shorter instead of

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Speaker 1: all these pictures. Let's just take a quarter inch off

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Speaker 1: the bottom. All yeah, just take off the dry ends.

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Speaker 1: But this is a picture I want to look like.

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Speaker 1: But no, don't really do it now.

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Speaker 3: I'm just noticing, like, all of a sudden, we all

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Speaker 3: have the same length hair right now, and we're kind

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Speaker 3: of having the same hair moment.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: I never noticed that before.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a kind of universally flattering length. And

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Speaker 2: I think that whenever I try something else, I don't

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Speaker 2: have the energy to maintain the haircut. And I brought

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Speaker 2: her all, I kept bringing your pictures because here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: These are curled and styled. These are red carp pictures.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to do that every day? I am not. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Then I picture.

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Speaker 1: I used to pull pictures from like, you know, Vogue, right,

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Speaker 1: So they spent seven hours on this one shot with

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Speaker 1: backlighting and phil and like and then color correction and everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I like this, and so then they would

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Speaker 1: do it or something, and then it's like it never

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Speaker 1: looked it because one wash and it just looks like.

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Speaker 3: Boom and the lighting crew isn't following you around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, and you're not rude of them, dang it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should just bring in pictures of ourselves on

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Speaker 2: better days, like this is when Friedman did my hair?

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Speaker 1: Can you can you do this for me?

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Speaker 3: Way I'm back in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Never ends. Oh boy, our desire for that per perfection,

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Speaker 1: you know, as if we weren't already there enough hair,

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Speaker 1: Let's get to some serious stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so close to Daphne appearing in this show, which

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Speaker 3: I'm super excited about. But for now, we're on episode thirteen,

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Speaker 3: so it's two episodes away from daff Episode thirteen. We're

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Speaker 3: doing a recap today and the episode's title is Dreams

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Speaker 3: Come True. Episode thirteen sort of landed during sweeps week

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Speaker 3: at the time, which is a big like sort of

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Speaker 2: Yeah back when ratings.

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Speaker 3: And that was the original order, like the show was

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Speaker 3: ordered for thirteen episodes, and it was ostensibly maybe the

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Speaker 3: last one that they decided to do, except that you'd

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Speaker 2: And this is when you know, like I've talked about

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Speaker 2: how we weren't doing really well, but we just read

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Speaker 2: an article that would touch on later in the show,

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Speaker 2: but it says about this. It says in this article

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Speaker 2: La Times, and in La Times thank you. Following an

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Speaker 2: intensive promotional campaign a big July premiere, Melrose took a

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Speaker 2: dive and currently ranked at the ty Says ranks for

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Speaker 2: at the time, number two out of ninety eight network

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Speaker 1: That, like, no, not number two, number ninety ninety two

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Speaker 1: out of ninety that's a difference.

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Speaker 2: like these days. Yeah, you would not be given that chance.

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Speaker 2: We would not have been given a chance.

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Speaker 1: But this is all starting to fall into place for

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Speaker 1: ratings were. The stories have been even before now, because

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Speaker 1: this article appeared October twenty six, nineteen ninety two. This

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Speaker 1: episode appeared October twenty eighth, My Birthday, Thank You, nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety two. So it was all and we'll see why

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Speaker 1: in this episode, the big story that happens other than

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Speaker 1: Alice and ignoring red flags but red banner alert. Things

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Speaker 1: are starting to pick up. Remember we were saying, like

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Speaker 1: they're done forever. So I see like the er, the

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Speaker 3: Charging Yeah, stories, stories are getting a little bit more steamy.

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Speaker 3: And that is a good segue into the opening scene.

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Speaker 1: Of this episode from Done Laura.

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Speaker 3: It opens at the beach house where Allison and Keith

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Speaker 3: are waking up making out serious making out body.

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Speaker 2: Like opens on full on make it and what have

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Speaker 1: And well it's like you're trying to get you already

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Speaker 2: He's not bothered to I have to get dressed, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this thing you're wearing with my

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Speaker 1: With those really ugly office pumps. They were so not sexy,

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Speaker 2: Long, involved makeout and of course, because I'm very mature,

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Speaker 2: I have my hand over the screen. I'm going no,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait till you guys have to watch yourself.

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Speaker 1: Dread totally. They're making out. She's trying to tear her quickly.

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Speaker 2: If my son ever misbehaves, which she hasn't, but if

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if it's hard on me?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine? What did you make out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's can't want to see their parents therapy for yourself,

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Speaker 2: You get grounded? No, but she made me watch her

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Speaker 1: Some guy on TV. Super torture and even I can

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, when she's trying to tear

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Speaker 1: Alison tries to tell him you know, I really.

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Speaker 3: Need to check in at home, my apartment and my friends,

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Speaker 3: and I just I've got stuff to do. I've been

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Speaker 1: Saying, you don't understand. I am happier than I've ever

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Speaker 2: I loved when he said love is blind and stupid.

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Speaker 2: And I'm yelling like then i've ever been. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: But she's stomp out a little dense, angry, and I

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Speaker 1: Like she's like with her little scrunching matching turquoise, with

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Speaker 3: Well, he's trying to, he's trying to point it out

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Speaker 3: she stumps, and then we cut to shooters. Sandy is

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Speaker 2: On top of that, well, they wanted to make him

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Speaker 1: Say no more. Yeah, they made up pretty sure that

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Speaker 1: They did really cast him as some like sleeves ball,

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Speaker 1: like who has nothing going on? Well that you're like,

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Speaker 3: So she walks away like yeah, whatever you know, and

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Speaker 3: the gang is playing pool, asking Alison some questions about Keith.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that adorable three shot of Sandy, Josie,

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Speaker 2: and Ronda. I'm mixing all my character in real name.

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Speaker 3: They were all there that scene at the pool tables because.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really cute having everybody altogether.

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Speaker 1: And Matt is in that scene too, And they're.

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Speaker 3: Asking Allison about Keith boxers or briefs.

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Speaker 2: That's like a but I think this is before boxer briefs.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we had boxer briefs yet. At this time,

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Speaker 3: Did you guys notice I made I made Doug watch

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Speaker 3: this episode with me too, and he noticed, Wow.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's sort of you know, he's just sort of

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Speaker 2: What. I don't think that number can possibly be right?

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Speaker 3: And he says, all right, well you can, you can

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Speaker 2: Or yeah he was nice. I mean I was super

442
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 2: duper in love with Andrew at that time. Like we

443
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: were like pretty hot and heavy at that point. So

444
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: it was kind of like everyone's like, not Andrew. You know,

445
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 2: I'm going to like, yeah, you're a nice guy. Not Andrew.

446
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get back and you just.

447
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: Had a job to do. But you learned in your

448
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: acting classes that you're supposed to substituted, so you put

449
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Andrew's face on him whenever you had to like be

450
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: totally in love with him, right, I'm sure that's what

451
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: you did. Corney's just very professional. She was just doing

452
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: her job.

453
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: Was just stupid, but that's you know, people have so

454
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: much trouble believing that and it's true, right, like people

455
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: go it must be super sexy, and it's like a

456
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe the first kiss is kind of but

457
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 2: then on take four you're like, oh, come on, can

458
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: we move on to a talking scene. Maybe I'm wrong,

459
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 2: but I think by the time Billy and Allison were dating,

460
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: Andrew and I had broken up.

461
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: That's not convenient at all.

462
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: But what maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong. We'll know

463
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: more kids. We broke up the hiatus after season one,

464
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: so I don't think we got together in the first season.

465
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: We'll see so rude of the writers. Okay, all right.

466
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: So at this point in the episode, Jake is returning home,

467
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 3: walking through the courtyard and he sees Matt who's doubled

468
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: over at his own apartment door.

469
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: Oh this is so sad, ach and goes.

470
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: Over to him and realizes that Matt needs help.

471
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: He's very bloodied and in lots of pain, and Jake says,

472
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm taking you to the hospital.

473
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: And playing it so well. Doug did such a great scene,

474
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 2: such a great job in the scene. My heart went

475
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: out to him, and I was so glad that Jake said, no,

476
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm taking you to the hospital because he was so

477
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: like he couldn't even work his keys, he was so

478
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: messed up.

479
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. He was really working the sensory, the

480
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: sensory of the pain. Couldn't you could you feel it?

481
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: Job?

482
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: He was really good with all that. It was so

483
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: hard to watch.

484
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: So at the hospital, Matt is in a wheelchair and

485
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: he's in the waiting area talking to some cops telling

486
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: them what happened. Did you guys notice you know, the

487
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 3: voice in the back of the hospital, and they do, like,

488
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 3: doctor Mencini, please report to me.

489
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that they do that.

490
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: They didn't do a doctor Mancene because he's not a

491
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: doctor yet, but later they will all the time, like

492
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: you'll hear doctor mancyin. I heard doctor Hannish. Do you

493
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: remember who that was? Our production is our post production right? Yeah?

494
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: Post production? I heard her name.

495
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: They plopped it in there, and she's a doctor, not

496
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: a real doctor. But anyway, so Matt is telling his

497
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 3: story and he's they're saying, well, I think what you

498
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: need to do is call the Hate Crimes Division, but

499
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm just warning you they might not be able to help.

500
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: So they sort of recognized that it was probably a

501
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: hate crime and not just you know, just a random beating.

502
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: Up or whatever.

503
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: And then the female cop says to Jake, take care

504
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: of your boyfriend, and Jake says, very matter of factly,

505
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 3: he's not my boyfriend, and the cop says whatever an exit.

506
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little weird, and that's all very I mean,

507
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: I that made me go, that's so common that they

508
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: don't care. They're not looking at them as individuals. They're

509
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: making all these assumptions and just because he's a guy

510
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: that whatever. Was like, yeah, I don't believe you.

511
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: You just yeah, And they're not gonna come out and say,

512
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: oh yeah, we're you know, like that. It's not a

513
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: safe sort of statement at this point to say, yeah,

514
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 3: this is my boyfriend and he just got beat up.

515
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: Whatever.

516
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: So when he says he's not my boyfriend, she's like, yeah, whatever,

517
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: and she leaves. And then Jake says to Matt, Okay,

518
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: so we just handle this thing ourselves, and you know,

519
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: let's find the guys and let's go after him. And

520
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Matt says that finding him and beating him up just

521
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: won't solve anything. It's not really the answer, and he's

522
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: a little frustrated. And then he gets up out of

523
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: his wheelchair and he limps out of the scene. And

524
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: this was another moment where I'm watching with Doug and

525
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 3: he's like, Okay, what am I am?

526
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: I a very old man here.

527
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: He is like, I'm limping like I'm when he say

528
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: fester and gun smoke uncle fist.

529
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: But they kicked him. I thought it was good, Like

530
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: I said before, I thought he did a really good job.

531
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: We're at yep.

532
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: I think he's being hard on himself in the same

533
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: way that court.

534
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: Guys just wait, like we're gonna yeah, you just wait.

535
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna make fun of our so fun. Okay.

536
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 3: So then back at the apartment in the morning, Ronda

537
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: and Billy are at Matt's apartment making him breakfast at

538
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: his apartment, and he is very grateful, although he makes

539
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: a joke about what I need to get beat up

540
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: to get breakfast, you guys, And then Billy says, yeah,

541
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: the streets are tough, they're rough, and you know the

542
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: same thing happened.

543
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: To me, And Matt says, well, Billy, it really wasn't

544
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: the same thing at all.

545
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was targeted because I'm gay. And

546
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: Ronda and Billy then try to tell Matt that maybe

547
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: they'll catch the guys, and Matt really doubts it and

548
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: he leaves the kitchen saying he needs to get ready

549
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: for work.

550
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

551
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I just felt like, Billy, one more time, you stick

552
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: your foot in the mouth. And he's always you know,

553
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: this isn't again, he was targeted. He's gay, just like

554
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: he was saying something about just general violence in general

555
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: down in South sude with about Rhonda that whole episode,

556
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: and here he is again he's not tuning in to

557
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: people who you know, are different, are targeted and have

558
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: different realities than his. And he can't just whitewashes everything.

559
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: The reality that Matt is living with and dealing with.

560
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: And he even at the drive, sorry, that would drive

561
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: Andrew crazy because he's so politically conscious. It drove him

562
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: crazy to have to be the guy who never understood

563
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: to be that God.

564
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: They did have Billy go Yeah, you're right, you're right,

565
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 3: it's not the same thing. But it's like the learning

566
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: moment has to happen in the dialogue.

567
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: And like, but he didn't have a learning moment we

568
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: want him to. But his very I had made a

569
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: note here, his very Matt leaves in his very last scene,

570
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: he's line is Matt's and denial. It's the same thing.

571
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: He says, Matt's and denial, like it's part of his shock.

572
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: So he didn't he's slow to learn.

573
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: Well what I think, But I think in that moment

574
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: he's saying like it took him a while to understand

575
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: the trauma he'd been through, and matth she all go

576
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: to work now, and it's like, hold on, like can

577
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: you process this for a minute. I know what you're saying,

578
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: and I would say yes, And it's also a valid point,

579
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: right that Billy's talking about his life. Then all of

580
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: a sudden it hit him. Wait a minute, I've been

581
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: through something. And I think he's saying that it's going

582
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: to hit Matt, which it does.

583
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: But his line of all I'm saying is I think

584
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: he didn't quite get it because he said I went

585
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: through the same thing. Oh, I matched the denial. But

586
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think you know this is

587
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: a series, and clearly they the numbers were low, but

588
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: they wanted to go a long time and so everything

589
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: has to be gradual, you know, like he's growing as

590
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: a character. He's coming to fruition.

591
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: We cut to Alison at D and D where Billy

592
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: walks in and he's bringing her some files that she's

593
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: clearly requested that he bring for her. She apologizes to

594
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: Billy for not coming home last night, and then she

595
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: realizes that she needed two files and Billy has only

596
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: brought one, and Billy is super annoy when she sort

597
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: of asks him to go back and get the other one,

598
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: and he says, no, Keith should go back and get

599
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: it for you. Go ask Keith, and rightfully so. Then

600
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: he leaves. Lucy walks in asking for the very missing file,

601
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: of course, and when Alison says.

602
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: She doesn't have it, Lucy is pissed.

603
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: She says Alison needs to get her act together or

604
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: she's gonna lose your job. And then she says, Wow,

605
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: that Keith must be a really great guy.

606
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, complicated, and then Lucy goes, oh my god, he's

607
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: married Lucy. Of course. Deborah Dare our producer's wife.

608
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: She was wonderful, and she's so wonderful in this. She's

609
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: so warm. She does a great thing of being the boss,

610
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: but really warm to Alison. Allison is very lucky to

611
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: have her because she is very forgiven, very paid center. Yes,

612
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 2: and then this kind of stuff because Alison and I

613
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: share very organized, very on top of things, and when

614
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Alison is dropping the ball, I am sick to my

615
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: stomach and just like no, no, no, no, no no.

616
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: It's very hard for me to make crazy.

617
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: Like the married man. Yeah, but honestly, the not getting

618
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: your work done on time is.

619
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Because I'm just you know, I have to wear the

620
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: same at home. Ew.

621
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when Andrew would come to work and he'd

622
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: be going, what's the scene we're on, I'm like, you

623
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: didn't learn it?

624
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't.

625
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: May It was so hard for me because I'm so

626
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: earnest about that stuff. So it's very hard for Allison

627
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: and I to drop the ball in that way.

628
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully she's going to learn her lesson here. Well yea.

629
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: So we then cut to Matt who's at the Halfway

630
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: House where he works, and he's leading a group of

631
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: teens and talk therapy and he's encouraging the kids to

632
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: talk on today's subject of anger, and one of the

633
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: kids doesn't really want to talk Matt wants to sort

634
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: of encourage him to explore, and he pushes a kid

635
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: to the point where the kid eventually has an outburst

636
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: and he throws a chair, and after the kids breakthrough,

637
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: Matt gives the kid a.

638
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Hug, and it's it's a really nice moment where.

639
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: He's you know, he's trusted by these kids and he's

640
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: doing his job. And we see then that all of

641
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: this has been observed by Matt's supervisor, who's.

642
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: And you see how good Matt is at his job. Right,

643
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: He's really good at connecting to the kids and listening

644
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: and he meets them on their level. Like I thought,

645
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: that was my entire takeaway from the scene as well.

646
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: He's really good at this.

647
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's great at it, and his boss witnesses him

648
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: being great at it. Yeah, which is important for later

649
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: that Matt is great at his job. So then we

650
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 3: cut to Sandy telling Ronda that she has their at

651
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: their apartment. She's telling Rounda that she has an audition

652
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: for a new part on the soap Forever and Tomorrow.

653
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: So gosh, apparently that nerdy guy was a casting director

654
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: after all, And they're flying Sandy to New York for

655
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: the audition, and she and Ronda are both super excited.

656
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: I guess clearly fans of the soap Okay, I need

657
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: to stand they wrote down some lines because she's like,

658
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, you got an audition on Forever and Tomorrow.

659
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: And she's like yeah, as a sexy new neurosurgeon. And

660
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: then Ron is like, ah, hey, you think she's going

661
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: to help Booth recover his memory of seeing Montana strangle Liz.

662
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: And then Sandy shays no because you'd have to remember

663
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: that he married his own sister. Silly, so serious fans

664
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: of this show, Yeah, and I wanted And then Ron

665
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: is like, no one's even seen her since here a

666
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: trip to the Equator soap opera storyline, So you know

667
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: the writers had a ball with that. Such a so

668
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: much fun. Yeah, and I love that they're fans of

669
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: the show. But I it made me think right away

670
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: to ask you guys, if you remember times in your

671
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: career that you were excited about an audition, like maybe

672
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: it was a screen test like you've already done a couple,

673
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: or it was just a show that you were or

674
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: a movie. If you remember that that just crazy excitement

675
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: about it. And also, you know the terror, but trying

676
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: to be calm, just that whole process of like, no,

677
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: I can be in the moment. I got relax, relax,

678
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, and like oh my god, you know this

679
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: that up and down, if that, if you can think

680
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: of anything in your own life. Auditions are so nerve wrecking.

681
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Auditions are nerves. But when I did Two and a

682
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: half Men, and it started off as like four episodes,

683
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: and then I did it for five years, and it

684
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: was every time I walked onto that set because I

685
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: was a fan beforehand. So when you walk onto a

686
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: show and you're already a fan and you've been in

687
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: this set as a viewer so many times and you

688
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: get to walk on the set and play with the

689
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 2: people you've been watching for years, that was crazy. I

690
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: never got over it. It was so exciting every time

691
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: because I was like, I'm I'm walking into this show.

692
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: I love. That was really fun.

693
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: So when you first went in to meet like Chuck,

694
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: Laurie or whoever, were you out of your mind or

695
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: were you kind of got to play it cool and

696
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: funny or do you remember?

697
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Look, auditions are always terrifying, right, Like they're always terrifying.

698
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: Then it took a little while to do the deal.

699
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: But and it was because I was a recurring guest,

700
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: like you get rehired every time. I never had a contract,

701
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: like I got to get the job like a hundred times,

702
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: like I hired for the job. It was always exciting.

703
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, you don't have any memories, Laura

704
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: for something. I know it's probably Melrose place, right, you were.

705
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, melros I mean I was excited

706
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: for that show.

707
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: That's faily No.

708
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: I remember ninety two when you.

709
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: Guys got on.

710
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was also there were some auditions that I

711
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: was excited about, like the material that I didn't get

712
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: the job, And one of them was actually for Desperate

713
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: Housewives or the role of Brie that Marsha Crosse ended

714
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: up playing, and I auditioned for that role as well.

715
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 3: And I can't imagine it any other way, Like, I

716
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: can't imagine it. It's not Marsha Cross, you know, she's

717
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: so great in it.

718
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Whatever time I remember ready he.

719
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: Was auditioning for his role I was auditioning for. We

720
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: were both auditioning, and wow, a weird sort of small

721
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: world story there is that the creative Desperate Housewives Mark

722
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: Cherry I had actually known since my youth and childhood.

723
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: We were we were in Young Americans sort of together,

724
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: which was a song and dance company that I sort

725
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: of one of the first things I did when I

726
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: came out here.

727
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: I was with Wow Americans like Cherry people, you mean

728
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: like you went around similar yeah, tours and stuff like that.

729
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: And Mark when he when.

730
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: Doug walked in for his audition for Desperate Housewives, Mark

731
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: got up and offered his hand and he said, Hi,

732
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm Mark Cherry and I wrote the first thing that

733
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 3: your wife ever did.

734
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: He had written he had written a musical at the time,

735
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: and it was in nineteen eighty six.

736
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: That it was amusable for the Young Americans and you

737
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: had auditioned to get a part in that show that

738
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: was going to be a national tour, and I got

739
00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 3: a part in the show.

740
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: Whatever I was on this.

741
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: I love that.

742
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: A million years later, he's creating Desperate Housewives and both

743
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: Doug and I are auditioning for it. And yeah, Doug

744
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: loves to tell that story about I wrote the first

745
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: thing your wife ever did, and then he got the job.

746
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: I did not, but I can't know what.

747
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: He got on. And Marsha and Marcia got on and

748
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of marsh little family over there. Yeah, yeah,

749
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: I remember that.

750
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: Very cool.

751
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just loved that whole scene with those two

752
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: in her such excitement to be flown to New York

753
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: for it for the soap.

754
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: And then, by the way, doesn't happen. People don't fly us.

755
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: They used to really used to before Zoom, people would

756
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: fly you.

757
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: I just thought that was sort of funny, like she's

758
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: a she's obviously not an established actress yet, and so

759
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: we're taking a leap of faith that they would fly

760
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: her out for the audience.

761
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: My first established.

762
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: Job, I auditioned it an open casting call. I auditioned

763
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 2: in a basement in San Francisco after my theater company

764
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: car wash, and they picked us up in a limo,

765
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: flew us on a plane just to Fox and a

766
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: limo full hair and makeup screen test with Charlie She.

767
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: So that's the only time that's ever happened to me.

768
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: But it was like something you'd see in this was

769
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: for what for Lucas, for my first thing Lucas. Oh wow, okay, yeah,

770
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: So I was like, this is how it works. Never again,

771
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: Like it was such It was such a crazy thing right,

772
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: They just don't. Yeah, I've never heard of it happening

773
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: since that happened to me since then.

774
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: But when she leaves the scene, she's like, no, I'm

775
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: going to be calm, and then you hear it go.

776
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: So I thought that I'm I'm not going to get

777
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: too excited, so cute, not.

778
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Going to get excited. I got to be professional, you know.

779
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: And so again this is again they referenced. Isn't that

780
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: the show that launched Kim say no More?

781
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: This time I heard it better.

782
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, I think they're actually saying Saint

783
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: no Moore, not say no more. I'm going to all

784
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 3: our kids say no more. But yeah, So that we're

785
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: back with Matt and he is watching his teen group

786
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: of kids.

787
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: They're playing NERF football, sort of letting off some steam.

788
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 3: He's watching and a detective comes in from the hate

789
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: crimes unit to interview Matt, and Matt's supervisor stands nearby

790
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: listening while Matt talks to the detective, and Matt repeats

791
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: the story to the detective that he was beat up

792
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: and he says because I'm gay, and the detective says, well,

793
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: you know what, we really want to catch the guys

794
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: and was out okay with you, and Matt's thrilled, like, yeah,

795
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: you want to fight for me.

796
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: That's wonderful. So he's happy that he's had this positive.

797
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: Conversation with a detective who says, we want to catch

798
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: these guys. And after he leaves, Matt's supervisor tells him,

799
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: you need to get this meeting room cleaned up, and

800
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: we're left wondering about that. We got to Allison coming

801
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 3: home to find Billy eating very weird food for dinner,

802
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: kind of girl.

803
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: Over the trash can.

804
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: Billy's eating over the dinersh can, and he says he's.

805
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: Threatening to eat what was it? What was it? Was

806
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: either a protein bar or because it was squishing out

807
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: of red wrap, so I thought maybe it was in

808
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: those little cheese wheels, remember those little.

809
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Cow cheese, a baby bell cheese. It might have been

810
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: said cheese and soup.

811
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: Something sitting cheese.

812
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: But he does say what he's planning is, you know,

813
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: can of frosting for dessert.

814
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's making a real point that roommate isn't

815
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: around and his life has gone to hell.

816
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: This is what I left left to my own devices.

817
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: This is what I'm gonna do if you're a.

818
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: Soup to nuts. Yeah, under three minutes done.

819
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: And he says, Allison, do you want to you know,

820
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: you to watch a movie with me tonight? And that's

821
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 3: she says once again, she's not staying, She's just here

822
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 3: to grab a change of clothes.

823
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: But were you thinking, yeah, watch the movie.

824
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: That's not what I know the movie, except he says,

825
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Rosemary's Baby.

826
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: Rosemary's Baby. It would be scary. And they could cut.

827
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: Off frosting with their popcorn.

828
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, put sprinkles on the frosting. That rainbow sprinkles on

829
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: frosting is a very good treat. And can we just.

830
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Stop for a second of the nineties outfit? That purple

831
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: t shirt tucked in with a brown belt to rust

832
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: colored jeans. This is on cute, billy. Isn't this the

833
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: scene with these I want to color jean.

834
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: And send it to Andrew and go. I can't believe

835
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: you let them put you because it came off kind

836
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: of pink. It was almost like pink pan I.

837
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: In his black converse and you're just going that was

838
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: more times that was only season one that he would

839
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: have like been like I guess because he was just

840
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: they put it, he didn't care, and.

841
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: Then I think started to care a little bit more,

842
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: and then don't.

843
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Forget if the nineties, We're like, okay, don't forget. Our

844
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: new costumer, Denise Wingate comes in when I come in

845
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: and that's yes, that's the episode after next. So somebody

846
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: noticed that that wasn't working for them either. I just

847
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: thought it was nineties funny.

848
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: Maybe this was one of the episodes that one of

849
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 3: the outfits that pushed it him around.

850
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: So they then.

851
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 3: Billy and Allison then have an argument and Billy says,

852
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, Keith is a jerk.

853
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: He's lying to his wife and he's just a jerk.

854
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: And Allison's saying, well, he isn't lying to me, and

855
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: I love him. This is when she says I love him,

856
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: and Billy says, I just don't want to see you

857
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: get hurt, and she.

858
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: Says, you just don't want to see me get happy.

859
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: I thought this was such a great line because she

860
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: says he's not lying to me, and Billy says, why not?

861
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: He lies to his wife, And I was like, I'm

862
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: going to remember that if any of my friends ever

863
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: has an affair with him.

864
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Yes, And they tell him Billy Campbell says.

865
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: Because that's such a good point, Like, what do you

866
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: mean he's not a liar, Like you're the only one

867
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: he's telling the truth to. I remember I dated a

868
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: guy who was mean to his mother, and I thought, well,

869
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: he's not mean to me. Cut to shock of all shocks,

870
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: what do you mean to me? Now? I know, pay

871
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: attention to how a man treats his mother. That's very important.

872
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Noticed it it's my now husband that like, he was

873
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: always going to visit his mother. But another thing I

874
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: just thought because she was older and I just they're

875
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: so close, and oh I love her so well. But

876
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: that was much when I was in my fifties. So

877
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I went through the twenties and the thirties and the forties.

878
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: And you're right, you make a note and then your

879
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: therapist tells you at one point watch how we you know,

880
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: talks about his mother and you know, because that was

881
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: his template for women, and you know, is there a

882
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: respect there or is there anger and resentment? You know?

883
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: Yes, such a good point.

884
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for you know, for an episode where Billy

885
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: has said some things that are sort of out at touch,

886
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: he's also being the voice of reason here with Allison.

887
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: He's saying all the things that are throughe and smart

888
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: for a guy who also has to say that things

889
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: like oh yeah, Matt, you know, same thing happened to

890
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: me whatever.

891
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: He's also being able to be like the guy who

892
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: says the truth here.

893
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: And also, you know, the audience is thinking, go with Billy.

894
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: It's like, it's great a person that the audience wants

895
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: Alison with anyway to be the one saying what do

896
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: you do it? Because the audience is like, are you blind?

897
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: Are having to be right?

898
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just going, Oh, he's so cute and he's

899
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: so caring, and this is a great episode for that

900
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: for your building up it.

901
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 3: But Alison goes out through the courtyard, she passes Sandy

902
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: and Ronda, who are saying goodbye. Ronda's wishing Sandy good

903
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: luck as Sandy's cab is arriving to whisker to her

904
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: New York audition. And I did notice Sandy's outfit in this.

905
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: She's wearing a beret and a red top with a skirt,

906
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: and I kind of think that it's very similar to

907
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: an outfit that Sidney wore very early on. So we're

908
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: gonna have to look for that when it comes up.

909
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: Because I looked at the beret, I'm like, oh, Sidney

910
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: wore berets?

911
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah? Was that like a nineties thing?

912
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: But it was a nineties thing?

913
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

914
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Well it just struck me.

915
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: It's like maybe they recycled that same wardrobe from Sandy leaving, Like, oh,

916
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: then you know when Sydney comes in.

917
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure they didn't throw all of her

918
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: stuff out, so we'll see, yeah, hand me down to

919
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: different characters.

920
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like closets full of stock and they just thought, oh,

921
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: this would be good.

922
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, going to have it. You guys so coordinate. There

923
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: was no awareness on set, and no one knew that

924
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: she was not coming back. And do you think they're right?

925
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: We knew, Oh you knew? We knew.

926
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: How did you guys know?

927
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: Probably right before when you got the Scriptish, I think

928
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: she told us, like they told us, she knew, yeah,

929
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: that it was going to happen.

930
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, And was there any reasoning for it?

931
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Well, we all knew there was a chance at thirteen, right,

932
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: So after thirteen you either got picked up or not.

933
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: We all knew that there was a chance.

934
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: Brought all the characters. Yeah, any Yeah, we all knew.

935
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's she leaves and she says I'll call

936
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: and that's her exit. And then we cut back to

937
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: Keith and Allison at the beach house yet again, and

938
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: Keith is trying to reassure Allison it's okay that none

939
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: of her friends and no one likes them together, and

940
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: he compares them.

941
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: To Romeo and Juliet, and Allison she's like, yeah, they

942
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: both died of poison, and oh yeah, yeah yeah.

943
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: He goes, We're like, we're like Romeo and Juliet and

944
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Elison is not in a good way, which I love.

945
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Maybe another example.

946
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, can we talk about the vat of

947
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: red sauce for the Jew of the.

948
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: Simmering? Yeah?

949
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. And Alison at this point says she needs to

950
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: have a definition for dead.

951
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: What does it mean when you say your marriage is yes.

952
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: Allison is not able to answer this, but he does say, Allison,

953
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 3: you're just parroting your friends.

954
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Don't you trust me? He says, so this is direct

955
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: gas lighting. Little good, everybody listening, little therapy and someone, Yeah,

956
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: gas lighting?

957
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: So what's acting like she's crazy? Yeah, I'm crazy because

958
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: he's having an affair.

959
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: But I'm the problem, and he persists here and she says, yes,

960
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe I'm just being an idiot for

961
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 3: even being here and being with a guy who's married,

962
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: and she's really expressing her doubts and he just keeps

963
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: trying to.

964
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: Talk her out of those doubts.

965
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: And he says, but I love you, I love you,

966
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: and then the phone rings, cute telephone, I love you enough,

967
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: it's the wife Lily. He then tells Alison he needs

968
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: to take this call in the from the bedroom because

969
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: it's my dead marriage, basically like showing showing Allison who

970
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: he picks in this moment. And Alison is no dummy

971
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: and she gets her stuff when she goes out the

972
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: door into the.

973
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Night finally and everyone's like finally, yeah.

974
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yuh So.

975
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: Back in her apartment in the morning, Allison is up

976
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: early and she tells Billy she needs to make up

977
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: for lost time at work. She's you know, going in early,

978
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: and she confides that she doesn't really know what to

979
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: do about Keith and admits that her emotions feel like

980
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 3: they're out of control, and Billy says, well, I wish

981
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: there was something I could do to help.

982
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: Says it's so sweet. But I we're finally seeing that

983
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: Alison has some awareness, and she's saying, if this were

984
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: my friend, I know exactly what to tell them. So

985
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: I love that little bit of awareness because she's been

986
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: driving me crazy this episode, so I like this she

987
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: has that moment of like, basically, I know this is wrong,

988
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: I know this is stupid, but I'm so in love

989
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: with this guy. So I had a little bit more

990
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: compassion for her slash meeting.

991
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: And then he just as doorable as ever, just looks

992
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: at you, like eight feet from you, eight inches from you,

993
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: going I just wish I could do something to help.

994
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: The audience is going nuts. He was so good, well directed.

995
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: And then we cut to Jake, who's knocking on Matt's

996
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: door in the morning to see how he's doing. And

997
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: Matt is wearing a giant checkered shirt, which I will

998
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: say Doug referred to as a poncho. I don't think

999
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: it was an actual poncho, but I like that.

1000
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Huge shirts in this episode.

1001
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: They all it was a style the remember it was

1002
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: like nineties grunge. All the guys like big Yeah, Andrew's

1003
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: T shirts are huge and grunge.

1004
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: That's what it was.

1005
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: You're right, ye, Jake. They keep in the tight T

1006
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: shirts because they they're paint. They know, they know what

1007
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: the ladies want.

1008
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then well if he wears it, if he

1009
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: wears a big flannel, it's left open.

1010
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: And yes, yeah here though, yes we know, yeah, but

1011
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: this one's particularly giant. And Matt tells Jake about his

1012
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: interview with the detective and he says he feels somewhat

1013
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: optimistic about it, and jake'says, wow, you know you're handling

1014
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: this better than I would, And you know I'd want

1015
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 3: to really just go find the guys myself and beat

1016
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: him up. And and Matt against this, well, I don't

1017
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: think that's the best answer, the best way to handle it.

1018
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: And they leave and then Matt is heading into work.

1019
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: They run in to run it in the courtyard.

1020
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: And that's when she tells Jake and Matt that Sandy

1021
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: got the job and that she's gone.

1022
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: She's really gone.

1023
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was an interesting way to say it, right,

1024
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: Let's just make she's gone clear. What's happening.

1025
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: She's gone, right, she's really gone.

1026
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: Yes, how that's how it was written, and so you know,

1027
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 3: it sort of lands where Jake and Matt and Ronda

1028
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: just sit with that moment.

1029
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: And well Jake specifically because that's his Sandy, and he goes, wow,

1030
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: you don't you know, you don't say whatever whatever that

1031
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: line was. It was like a close up on Jake

1032
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: and you're like, that's done, and it's bittersweet.

1033
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: He's happy for but it's like, wow, I'm gonna miss

1034
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 3: her sort of vibe and yeah, yeah.

1035
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: She's gone.

1036
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: So then Billy in his cab is driving and he

1037
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: shows up wearing giants crunch socks.

1038
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: I didn't notice at.

1039
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: Keith's house and Paisley shorts in Malibu.

1040
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I think it was between the pink jeans and

1041
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: the Paisley shorts. It's like, we really need to rethink this.

1042
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: Maybe he had his roller skates in the back of

1043
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: the cab like always at the beach. He was just

1044
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 3: gonna use the punch of os and his face shoring

1045
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: roller blades, yeah, and just like go for.

1046
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: So this threw me off, and I don't know if

1047
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: it threw you guys, But the opening of the scene

1048
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: is like a stock footage of sort of like a

1049
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: mountain and ocean, and then they show him driving up

1050
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: and it looked like it could have been like in

1051
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: Silver Lake or Zrol Canyon or Los Felis, Like it

1052
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: looked like a Hollywood Hills kind of back alley part.

1053
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: And then they cut to Keith clearly on this ocean.

1054
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: Is this adorable you know, shingled cottage right on the water.

1055
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: So did that bump you at all? Geography didn't match

1056
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: up just the three shots. Yeah, and I'm like, wait,

1057
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: he's driving in this just doesn't look like ox nerd

1058
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: or Malibu or I don't know, just.

1059
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: Felt it didn't fum me because it felt like how

1060
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: in Malibu the houses are so close together you can't

1061
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: see the ocean between them because they're all built for

1062
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: the ocean view. Really, but that you well, I just

1063
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: know the area.

1064
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: There's just no it looked like this. The road that

1065
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: he was on was like cracked and just kind of like,

1066
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, not like Malibu or Oxnard and look like

1067
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: more of a mountain. I would love to find out.

1068
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe we'll.

1069
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: Just it's possible that they shot them all the time

1070
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 3: totally different places as establishing the X tier and then

1071
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: the back part with the deck. Maybe so Billy finds

1072
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: Keith on the deck and he confronts him, and he says,

1073
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: you know, you shouldn't be cheating on your wife, and

1074
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: I don't like to hear Alison krang into a pillow

1075
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: over you, and dude, what are you doing? And kind

1076
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: of really really confronts him, and Keith's a little defensive,

1077
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: and then Billy asks what exactly are your intentions? Keith says,

1078
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: what are you her dad? Nope, says Billy, I am

1079
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: her best friend and I care about her more than

1080
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: you do.

1081
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 2: How and her best friend? Did you audibly go? I went, oh, like,

1082
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm her.

1083
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: Best friend, super sweetheaded, adorable.

1084
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: I care about her more than you do, pal, And

1085
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: then we cut back to the teen shelter where Matt

1086
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: is asked to go into his boss's office, where his

1087
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: boss sits him down and tells him that Matt encouraging

1088
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: the kid to get in touch with his anger was

1089
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: just too much and Matt himself just has too much

1090
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: self expression and the kids need role models with family

1091
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 3: values that they doesn't really lacking. And the boss says,

1092
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, Matt, it's this is just not working out and.

1093
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: Yes, all of these dog whistles write too much expression

1094
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: family values, Yeah, and it was so this was so

1095
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: well done because he walks in on a high because

1096
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: he feels like, you know, if people are finally have

1097
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: his back, He's going to work where he's so good

1098
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: at it and he loves it, and then he just

1099
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: got yelled. I was so shocked by this scene.

1100
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, where you guys aready happened well, and here's they

1101
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: kind of teased us about it, those looks and the

1102
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: other time in the other situations, you know, when the

1103
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: kid was really angry, and then the next scene when

1104
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: the detectives there, they kept referring to the like Laura

1105
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: was saying, the boss kind of going, oh, like close

1106
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: ups on him, you know, a little questionable. But then

1107
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: he really goes when he says I'm gay, because in

1108
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: that other scene Matt says very directly, they beat me

1109
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: up because I'm gay. So you just see the boss

1110
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: in the background going yeah, it's like that's what he

1111
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear, and he didn't want this gay

1112
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: man to be around these young boys because that's another

1113
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: cliche kind of yeah and horful.

1114
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: At the same time, he's witnessed Matt being very good

1115
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: at his job, and we've seen him witness that and

1116
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: but he's now in this conversation he's decided to turn

1117
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: it around and say, you know, that was actually just

1118
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: too much.

1119
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: That way you handled that was too much.

1120
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: You have too much self expression, and these kids need

1121
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: role models with family values. So this is this is

1122
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: a big deal. That spoiler alert part of that La

1123
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: Times article lets us know that this is a big

1124
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: deal storyline of not only was you know, this gay

1125
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: character a victim of targeted violence. Right now he's lost

1126
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: his job clearly because the boss doesn't want to have

1127
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: him be a gameplay.

1128
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's an interesting way too to bring this

1129
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: storyline front and center. Another thing they mentioned in the

1130
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: articles that another show had been boycotted for having a

1131
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: gay storyline front and center. So they really did a

1132
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: good job of creating compassion and having the issues and

1133
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: showing what was happening all in. And I remember at

1134
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: the time Doug was really frustrated because they weren't really

1135
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: having Matt storylines front and center, and they were afraid

1136
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: they create this gay character that big than gay gay,

1137
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: a regular gay character on primetime TV. That's amazing, But

1138
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: then they were hiding from doing real storylines. So when

1139
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: they did it, they really had this front and center,

1140
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: like the homophobia and the violence. They really wanted to

1141
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: need a head on which I think was a great

1142
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: idea because you see, Matt's a good guy. He loves

1143
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: Even when he gets beaten up, he's still trying to

1144
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: take the high road and then he gets nailed. So

1145
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 2: I think if anybody was on the fence, they would go, oh, suddenly,

1146
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: I have compassion for this person who, Yes, maybe I

1147
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: couldn't see his point of view. I think they did

1148
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: a good job.

1149
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: And we're going to get to talk to Doug because

1150
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: he is as we promised, he is going to have

1151
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: his episode where he comes in and talks to.

1152
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: Us, which finally did. Daphney was able to get a

1153
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 2: hold of Doug.

1154
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: He has his numbers, so that was cool.

1155
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: Al has his numbers, so she was able to get

1156
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: him in.

1157
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: You like the girls, I see her. They're really nice,

1158
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: so nice. They all have the same hair.

1159
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about learning different hairstyles.

1160
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: It's all it's just different color. You can recognize them either.

1161
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: He said, all right, all right, stop harassing.

1162
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 3: All right, but no, he's actually he's actually I'm so excited.

1163
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: Back in town, and we can finally have him on

1164
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: it on the podcast.

1165
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: Then, after this scene where Matt is fired, Allison is

1166
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: back at her desk at work and Keith walks in

1167
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: and he wants to take Alison out to lunch. She says,

1168
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a good idea, and she says

1169
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 3: to him, I think my feelings are being ignored and

1170
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: he says, well, let's talk about it at lunch. She says, no,

1171
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 3: I've sacrificed my work and you're ignoring my needs and

1172
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: he says come over tonight. Yeah, and Allison again says no,

1173
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 3: we both need time to think, and he says, I'm

1174
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: in love with you. At this point, Lucy, Allison's boss,

1175
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: interrupts but coming up to the desk asking for her messages,

1176
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: and when she's gone, Allison asks Keith to leave.

1177
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: She gives him a Lucy her boss gives him a

1178
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: like exciting a look everything okay here, Keith? She says, please

1179
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: leave because I'm going to cry and then I'll never

1180
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: forge give you, and then he reaches over and grabs

1181
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: her wrist. Did you notice that? And kind of just

1182
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: grabs it. Did you guys not notice that?

1183
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: I know?

1184
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: And reaches down. She's down at the desk and he

1185
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: reaches over and he grabs it and he goes, I

1186
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: need you or whatever. It was like, I love you.

1187
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: Red flag, lots of lots of red flags, and Allison

1188
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 3: is really trying to push back.

1189
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: And Alison's like, let me move these flags out of

1190
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: the way to talk.

1191
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: To hold on, let me just move that aside. Okay.

1192
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: Then Ronda finds Matt sitting by the pool at the courtyard.

1193
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: Tells her that.

1194
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 3: The detectives were great and the kids at the shelter

1195
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: have been really great and really supportive, rallying around him,

1196
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: and then he reveals that he's been suddenly fired because

1197
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 3: his boss found out that he's gay. So he sort

1198
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: of tells that story where, yeah, everything I thought was

1199
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 3: going well, I felt like I had people on my

1200
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: side and watching my back, and then rug pulled out

1201
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: and I've been fired. So the next morning, again he's

1202
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: poolside and Jake is there working on his bike, and

1203
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: Matt tells Jake about getting fired, and Matt is saying

1204
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: that he's really bummed because he didn't get to say

1205
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: goodbye or tell the kids some of the things that

1206
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: he meant to tell him, and Jake says, you don't

1207
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: have to take that, you know, you go demand your

1208
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: job back or super wrongful discrimination, and Matt is sort

1209
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: of discouraged and he says, you know, yeah, my boss

1210
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: didn't really come out.

1211
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: And say it was because I'm gay.

1212
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: But he made it all about family values, role models

1213
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: and scraping the walls, you know, like when the chair

1214
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: was thrown, like as if the damage to the wall

1215
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: was really what was it about. And Jake says, well, dude,

1216
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: it's up to you, and I think you should do

1217
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: something about it. And Matt has left to think about.

1218
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: It, which is how it's so Jake, isn't it you guys,

1219
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: It's just how he deals with stuff, which is good

1220
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: in this case.

1221
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: I think something also seems frustrated, like he keeps saying,

1222
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: let's go after him, he keeps giving him solutions, and

1223
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: Matt he feels like he's not standing up for himself.

1224
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's just like, I'm done trying to stand

1225
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: up for you exactly.

1226
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: So then we're back with Lucy and Alison over lunch.

1227
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: They're having lunch together and Lucy's telling Alison, I don't

1228
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: want to fire you.

1229
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: You're a great receptionist.

1230
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 3: And she then also reveals that she herself has wasted

1231
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: five years of her own life with the married man

1232
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: previously when she was younger, and she feels sick about

1233
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: it now and she just want Alison to make the

1234
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: same mistake.

1235
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't really advice, and yeah, she's the world's

1236
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: kindest boss, and she calls Alice and her protegee, and

1237
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: she really wants her. That's really good advice in a

1238
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: loving way to say it, right, I just's.

1239
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: Really a mentor to her, in a really a mentor,

1240
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: which you know only a woman boss can be. You

1241
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: can't really have a male boss go in and be

1242
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: and then be very empathetic with your employee Alison and say,

1243
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, I've been in your position. I've been the younger.

1244
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: You know, I bought all this fancy lingerie and it

1245
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: didn't work, and I don't think it's going to work.

1246
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: This is like as old as the hills, you know

1247
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like they really took advantage of that,

1248
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: of her being a woman and being really sort of

1249
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, giving her that wonderful advice, very like big

1250
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: sistery kind of thing, which I thought was a very

1251
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: lucky relationship for Alison. Yeah.

1252
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: So then we're back to the Shooters where the gang

1253
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: is all gathered around to watch Sandy's first appearance on

1254
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: the television show on the soap Opera, And so they

1255
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: all gather around the TV and they're so excited to

1256
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: see her. She got her head wrapped in the bandage

1257
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: and they her, you know, just a few lines of dialogue,

1258
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: and Jake is then the first to say that, hey,

1259
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna miss her, and then they all agree that

1260
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: they'll miss her too.

1261
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: And this is what I loved, all those group shots

1262
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: in the pan across the whole shot. It was like

1263
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie, you know what I mean. And they're

1264
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: all smiling at the Christmas tree. They're all watching the

1265
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: TV in the bar, and you just see that almost

1266
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: everyone except for Allison. Yeah.

1267
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: And then also in the scene at Shooters, Matt goes

1268
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: up to Jake and he's at the table and he

1269
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: sees and buying your your you know, your drinks are

1270
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: on me tonight and I'm taking your advice. Thanks for

1271
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: pushing me to do that. I'm asuing my employer for

1272
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: discrimination and wrong determination. So we learned that he is

1273
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: going to pursue it, which is great, and then we're

1274
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: back at the apartment where Alison tells Billy that she's

1275
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: going to end things with Keith and she hates herself

1276
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: for being with a married man, and Billy says, you know,

1277
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: good for you.

1278
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: I know it takes a lot of guts to end it.

1279
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, you should know, I did go

1280
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: to Keith's house for a Manda man talk and Ilse's

1281
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 3: like really, and he says that Keith.

1282
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: Was maybe weirded out by it about Billy's.

1283
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: Showing up to call him out, but that he had

1284
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: stuck up for Allison. And Allison is very pleased that

1285
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: Billy cares about her so much, and so off she goes.

1286
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: She heads out, asking Billy to wish her luck ending

1287
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: things with Keith.

1288
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: Yay, Allison, yay, that's what we all.

1289
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: Want to happen.

1290
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: Yay.

1291
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: I like that she really embraced and appreciated you really

1292
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: care about me, like and as opposed to because I

1293
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: think in the past he had done something and she

1294
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: was like stop, you know, don't try it or something. Yeah,

1295
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: so this she welcomed at this time him jumping right

1296
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: on in her business. And then we see her at

1297
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: the beach house now and it's sunset.

1298
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: It's very beautiful lighting, and Keith has set up a

1299
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: romantic sunset dinner. And before Allison can even say what

1300
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: she came to say, he jumps up and he says,

1301
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm leaving my wife. And I can't imagine life without you, Allison.

1302
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 3: You're the only woman I'll ever love. For God's sakes,

1303
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: Alison say something and she doesn't, and.

1304
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: She's thinking, huh.

1305
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, dinner. Wait, now you're saying you're leaving her.

1306
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So the episode ends on this first cliffhanger.

1307
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, will she right?

1308
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 3: I'm back with next week. We're gonna have to tune

1309
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: in next week. Will she able to end it? We're

1310
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 3: gonna have to tune in to find out. But it

1311
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: ends on a very beautiful sunset shot. But the two

1312
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: of them holding their champagne glasses, well yeah yeah, Like they're.

1313
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think you guys are totally right in

1314
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: your analysis that they started to spice things up before Heather,

1315
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: because my memory was we were the same and then

1316
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: Heather came on, it was like boom, But you're right,

1317
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: they started to do this and maybe like Heather was

1318
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: like the cherry on top.

1319
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: There was a lot of spicy making out here, and

1320
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 3: a cliffhanger, so you're starting to see this formula sort

1321
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: of moving well.

1322
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: And also just the whole Matt thus got them in

1323
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: the New The Matt story got them in the La Times.

1324
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: They got some press going. They're throwing the stuff out

1325
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: of it. But I think it's just the pieces. Because

1326
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: we're going back and watching this, we're seeing the different

1327
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 1: signs that we you know, our memory is that's thirty

1328
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: years ago.

1329
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: So I wonder if there's a place we can see

1330
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: the ratings. Wouldn't that be interesting if somebody kept digging

1331
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: back written on a notepad somewhere in the library.

1332
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: Variety, it was a variety every Yeah, well, I wonder

1333
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: if maybe Chip.

1334
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: Saved, if that ship might have. But I wonder if

1335
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: it is somewhere, because it would be interesting to see

1336
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: when it started to pick up.

1337
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I remember that it was the second and thirdie.

1338
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: I think you know who would know. Andrew would know.

1339
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask because he paid very close attention.

1340
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him if your members when it's

1341
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: started to pick up.

1342
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'm very excited to tune in next week to

1343
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: the next episode of melrose Place. Here on still the Place,

1344
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: because I want to find out if Allison's going to

1345
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: be able to do it, if She's going to.

1346
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: Be able to be screwed? Are you kidding me? And

1347
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: I have out my notes are this guy's relentless dinner

1348
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: prepared champagne, sunset Malibu. I left my wife here, the

1349
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: only woman I've ever loved, blah blah blah, cliche blah

1350
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: blah blah. What the f She doesn't have a chance

1351
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: because it's the nineties and this is melrose Place. Yeah

1352
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: all those things, Yes, yes, poor girl.

1353
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: But I also want to find out what's going to

1354
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 3: happen for poor Matt and I want him. I want

1355
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: to see him get you know, justice for.

1356
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: Losing his job. Yeah, yeah, tune in next week.

1357
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: So next so we're gonna have Doug Savon so excited.

1358
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: I was looking at the questions we kind of uh

1359
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: cover them in the show. Isn't that amazing?

1360
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: Fan questions? You may we have some fan questions.

1361
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you know a couple. Yeah, did you know

1362
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: Sandy's last episode? What do you think about Ellison's work

1363
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: ethic in this episode which we sort of covered.

1364
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: We did, Yeah, we did.

1365
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1366
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: I love that our fans are thinking the same things

1367
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 3: we are.

1368
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1369
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: I love that they're really watching this together.

1370
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: They're really on it. It's very cool. So thanks for

1371
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: all those questions. Guys. You can coming and keep watching

1372
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: with us.

1373
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 3: We love getting together every week to see another episode

1374
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 3: and knowing that you're all watching with us.

1375
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: We love it. You all can watch again if you're

1376
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: not watching the actual shows on It's on Paramount Plus

1377
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: and Amazon. The original series. We're next week is we're

1378
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: going to be going over episode fourteen, season one. You guys.

1379
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: Next episode after this is going to be Doug Savants episode.

1380
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: That's right, Matt Fielding. Oh, he'll be here in person. Finally.

1381
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: He's been out of town for a bit, but we're

1382
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 3: finally going to get him to sit down and have

1383
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: a great chat.

1384
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: So looking forward to that. That'll be the next episode.

1385
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: How did you get through to him, Laura?

1386
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 3: I actually keep his calendar, so I just said, here's

1387
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: what's happening.

1388
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: You said, we were finally to the episode where you

1389
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: made it to the La Times. Will that do it?

1390
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: Doug? Are you guys going to drive together?

1391
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: I said? I thought I told him we could carpool.

1392
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 3: I thought it would be you know, responsible, and carpool

1393
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 3: save the game forward to it. Thanks so much guys

1394
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: for coming to steal the place. We'll see you next week.

1395
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: Bye bye, everybody,