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Speaker 1: apart quickly. And it's it's sad because when you think

429
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Speaker 1: about the Carolina Panthers and what they were able to do, UH,

430
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 1: they've repaired Sam Donald. Sam Donald was playing some of

431
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Speaker 1: the best football that we've seen of his brief career

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Speaker 1: in terms of the way that they were managing, the

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Speaker 1: way they were doing things. They were running to football.

434
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Speaker 1: But ultimately the Panthers were undone by their secondary and

435
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Speaker 1: the number one rule of the secondaries don't allow the

436
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 1: ball to fly over top of the defense. And yet

437
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, nursing a double digit lead, they

438
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 1: let the ball fly over the top of the defense.

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00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,159
Speaker 1: And not only did they commit the cardinal sin of

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Speaker 1: letting it flow over the top of the defense, they

441
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 1: let the buccaneers best wide receiver get behind him Mike

442
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 1: Evans running go routes deep balls. This looks like a

443
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: flag football game where you're just like, hey, man, just

444
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 1: run as far as you can go. I'm gonna throw

445
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Speaker 1: it as far as I can and get home. And

446
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: that is exactly what undid a Carolina Panthers teamed that

447
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 1: really outplayed the Buccaneers for the better part of the day.

448
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but hats off to the Buccaneers for finding

449
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: a week link and going back to that week link

450
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 1: over and over again. The deep ball showed up, and

451
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 1: it showed up in a big way. Yeah, and I

452
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: think the Carolina Panthers desperately missed J. C. Horne in

453
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Speaker 1: this game. Um, you know, I think C. J. Henderson

454
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Speaker 1: had had enough of Mike Evans certainly, and and then

455
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: like it kind of bothered me, was a little it

456
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Speaker 1: was it was less competitive than I would have liked

457
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Speaker 1: to have seen from from a guy that C. J. Henderson,

458
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Speaker 1: you know, that played some good college football, was a

459
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: high draft pick of your Jacksonville Jaguars and got traded

460
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Speaker 1: to Carolina. Like it just didn't have that compete that

461
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Speaker 1: you'd like to see in a moment like this, in

462
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Speaker 1: a game like this and a match up like that

463
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: was so much on the line, you know, for the

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Speaker 1: Panthers fighting for a possible shot at the division and

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00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: week A team just didn't match up. But what did

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Speaker 1: not sch up for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were the

467
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Speaker 1: stars coming out and the reason we kept waiting and

468
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: waiting and saying, maybe this is the game for the

469
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: Bucks every time they'd win it, maybe this is the

470
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Speaker 1: game that kicks off the stretch in which they're gonna

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Speaker 1: start putting things together. It's because they have really dang

472
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Speaker 1: good players. Tom Brady is the best that's ever done it.

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans is one of the best wide receivers in

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Speaker 1: the game. And has been his whole career, and they

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Speaker 1: showed you why on that day forty five for Tom Brady,

476
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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty two yards. He completes a touchdown

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Speaker 1: past to Mike Evans for sixty three yards in this game,

478
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Speaker 1: which was his longest right since two thousand and eighteen.

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00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: Longest is a buccaneer, And so all that vertical stuff,

480
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: all that under ten yards stuff that they've been living

481
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: on for much of this season, it was like, you

482
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Speaker 1: know what, we're honoring Bruce, arians were putting his name

483
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: up in the ring of honor. We better no risk it,

484
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: no biscuit in this game with a chance to win

485
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Speaker 1: the NFC South Division title, and it really showed up.

486
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 1: And Mike Evans going for over two hundred, man, that

487
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: was a vintage performance when they needed it the most.

488
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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Chris Co'm so fired up,

489
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: my headphones are falling out. Chris Godwin goes for over

490
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Speaker 1: a hundred in game two, comes up with a big

491
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Speaker 1: two point version at the end, Like this was, um,

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Speaker 1: this was what we expected the Bucks to be when

493
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady came back and Godwin was fully healthy and Evans,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, it was still the same guy, and and

495
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: so that was encouraging. And if I'm the Bucks, I'm like,

496
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Speaker 1: all right, kind of starting to feel this this version

497
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Speaker 1: of our offense here as we move towards the postseason. Now,

498
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to cold water on the

499
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Speaker 1: on the on the fire here that rhets live. Come on, Tampa,

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00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: let's go back. Let's go back. What do you say Thanksgiving?

501
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: Let's go back? Since Thanksgiving? They lost to a Cleveland

502
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: Browns team that stinks. They beat the New Orleans Saints,

503
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: who are averages a day is long, by one point,

504
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: seventeen to sixteen. They lost to a playoff team, the

505
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: forty nine thirty five to seven Doors blown off. Played

506
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: a playoff team at Cincinnati thirty four to twenty three blasted.

507
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Speaker 1: They beat in overtime an Arizona Cardinals team that is

508
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: it's terrible, beat them in overtime by three. And they

509
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Speaker 1: just beat a six win Carolina Panthers team had to

510
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Speaker 1: come back and beat them by six points. They are

511
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Speaker 1: going to be the fourth. See, they're gonna see the

512
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Speaker 1: Cowboys or the Eagles, two teams that can really rush

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, and they're gonna be one and done. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that that they've got it going a little

515
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Speaker 1: bit here, They've got a little mojo as to go

516
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Speaker 1: to the postseason. But their offensive line, I still I

517
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: don't They're not gonna be able to hold up to

518
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Speaker 1: get those deep shots to Mike Evans against those two fronts.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to be the bear of bad news.

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00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: Buck Um, but I don't see what I know what

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Speaker 1: you are now. You are squarely on the radar of

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's social media team, and so if they win

523
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Speaker 1: a game or two, we will keep this played back

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Speaker 1: as one of the hype videos as Tom Brady is

525
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Speaker 1: getting ready to go into the divisional playoffs. And so welcome,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Tom brady social media thing. I'll tell you

527
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: right now, Tom Brady wants to blast out and move

528
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Speaker 1: the sticks on onto the social channels. You know, hey,

529
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Speaker 1: there's no such thing as bad publicity. We'll take it here.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to the Steelers and the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Ret This was a game that wasn't pretty, but at

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Speaker 1: the end, man Mike Tomlin taxes and Mike Tomlin not

533
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: being under five guarantees in life. Yeah, I mean, how

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Speaker 1: cool is that? Right? I mean, this team has been

535
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Speaker 1: on a run, and you want to talk about where

536
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Speaker 1: they've been the last couple of games, just to run

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Speaker 1: through it here real quick. And this after they get

538
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Speaker 1: this win over the Ravens, you know, beat the Raiders thirteen, ten,

539
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: beat the Panther sixteen, beat the Falcons, beat the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Not the most right if you want to talk about,

541
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Speaker 1: you know, teams to inspire in terms of opponents, well

542
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Speaker 1: that's not the most daunting task around. But they did

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Speaker 1: get past the division rival in the Baltimore Ravens here

544
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Speaker 1: as the Ravens are fighting to stay in the hunt

545
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Speaker 1: for that division in the a f C North and

546
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: now losing some serious grounds. So I think there's some

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Speaker 1: signs of progress here. And we'll start with the quarterback

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, who you guys know I was a big

549
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Speaker 1: fan of coming out of pit just I mean, this

550
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Speaker 1: is a dude that thrives on these type of environments. Oh,

551
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Speaker 1: Mike Thomas never had a losing season, and we're threatening

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Speaker 1: that to happen right now. Let me do what I

553
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: can to get this team back into the winning on

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Speaker 1: the winning side here in Phillips Dubs in the wind

555
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: column and all the while keeping our playoff hopes alive,

556
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Speaker 1: by the way, not done yet. And you know what,

557
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna need me, if we're gonna be down

558
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, I'm gonna put this team on

559
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Speaker 1: my shoulders and for the second straight week, engineer fourth quarter, comeback,

560
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Speaker 1: third of the season, fourth game, when he drive overall,

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Speaker 1: I'll just go five or six for sixty four, improv

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Speaker 1: on the final touchdown to Nagy Harris, who, by the way,

563
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Speaker 1: is the first one yard rushing game of the day.

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Speaker 1: And what I'm gonna do, maybe we don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if we do, you know, it's not an extended stay.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm doing right now is building blocks for

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Speaker 1: the future. And talk about quarterback in Kenny Pickett, running

568
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Speaker 1: back in Nagy Harris. You got a terrifically talented wide

569
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Speaker 1: receiver corps with George Pickens as a rookie this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not calling them, not calling the triplets. I'm just

571
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Speaker 1: saying that they have building blocks for the future there.

572
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Speaker 1: Now they gotta build some blocks in front of Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: And I think this team is gonna be a real

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Speaker 1: fun one to come for the next few years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They are a fun one to come and going on

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Speaker 1: the way back to have an opportunity to see Kenny

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Speaker 1: picking into preseason when he played against the Jaguars and

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Speaker 1: went right down the field when there was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a quarterback battle. The one thing that you can

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Speaker 1: talk about Kenny Pickett is the poise, poise under pressure.

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Speaker 1: He has that in spades. It showed up the last

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00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: two weeks back to back game winning drives. But let's

583
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Speaker 1: be honest about why the Pittsburgh Stealers are in a

584
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Speaker 1: position to not only have another winning season on the

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Speaker 1: Mike Thomland, but could sneak into the playoffs. It's their defense.

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00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: Mike Thomlands. This team was sitting at two and six

587
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: and they put the pressure on the defense to rise up.

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Speaker 1: And this defense has really stood up. Last night against

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, we saw the employees some six man

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Speaker 1: defensive lines to stop the running game. They've always been

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Speaker 1: a guy of a team that's been a collection of

592
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: bad dudes that will hit you in the mouth and

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Speaker 1: bring the physicality to the table. But now what they

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00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: have is some talented corners on the outside. They still

595
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: have the physicality being able to control it at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Linebackers are being able to make plays,

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Speaker 1: but more importantly, they still live up to the mystique

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Speaker 1: that has always been associated with the stealers when it

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00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: comes to the defense. So yes, if we think about

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Speaker 1: a team bit is building towards the future, they haven't

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Speaker 1: experienced defense that will give them a chance for those

602
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: young guys to grow up on offense. Yeah, this team

603
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: is one that we'll talk about. It has taken not

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00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: as long as we thought it would take for the

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00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still is to usher in a rebuild, but they're

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Speaker 1: going to be back and they're be a major factor

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00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: next year going forward. Not flip it over to the

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Speaker 1: other side with the Baltimore Ravens. And we've talked about

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Speaker 1: the big three in the a f C all season long, right,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about Kansas City, Buffalo, and Cincinnati. Those are

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Speaker 1: the teams that have just kind of been a cut

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Speaker 1: above everybody else. And it feels like, man, you don't

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00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: want to you know, you're gonna have to run through

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Speaker 1: those teams. Nobody wants to play him. What if you

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00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: flip it around now and you look at those three teams,

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Speaker 1: you really think that they want to welcome in the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens into the postseason as a sixth seed to

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Speaker 1: go play the three seed. And this is a team

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Speaker 1: that all of a sudden is gonna get Lamar Jackson back.

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Speaker 1: You would think you're gonna be rested and finally healthy

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Speaker 1: and ready to go, even playing without him. You get

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson back. This defense has played really, really well.

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Speaker 1: Um you see the numbers on the screen there thirteen

624
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: points of game since week nine. It's the best in

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Speaker 1: the league. Rokuan Smith has made a big time difference.

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00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: And they're that's scared off any of these environments. They

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00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati every here. They don't care about that

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00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City Buffalo. I I think John Hardball has that

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Speaker 1: team ready to go. This is a team, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: Buck I see them kind of laying in the weeds.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna be talking about or thinking about them. I

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Speaker 1: don't think any of those teams up top that three

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Speaker 1: seed is gonna want to see the Baltimore Ravens now.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see the Baltimore Ravens, particularly Lamar

635
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Jackson comes back. But I think that's the X factor.

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Speaker 1: He was Lamar Jackson coming back because he is so

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Speaker 1: vital to their running game and what he has and

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00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: a fresh and healthy and rejuvenator Lamar Jackson certainly adds

639
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: some spice to their running attack. The defense but all accounts,

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00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: is certainly playing well, but they need Lamar Jackson to

641
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Speaker 1: give them their big play factor in the running game, right.

642
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: You want to get it on that you, I mean,

643
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: you think this is a team. I look at them

644
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: as a team I think could go on the road.

645
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of built. If Lamar Jackson's out there, defense,

646
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: run game, it's the table. You You don't think they

647
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: could go on the road and beat one of those

648
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: top three of teams. Not if Lamar Jackson is not available,

649
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the whole thing. But he's gonnaup heal back.

650
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: He'll be back. Well yeah, I mean I hope. I

651
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: think the Ravens hope. But yeah, I agree with you

652
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: that if he's there, um, and if he's healthy and

653
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: fully able to go and affect defense is the way

654
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: that he can both on the ground, uh you know

655
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: and through the air, then yeah, absolutely they're They're a

656
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: force and you're not just gonna count them out. Um,

657
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: you know if they got to go on the road

658
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: in the first round, Like, yeah, definitely. But Lamar Jackson's

659
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: health is obviously a huge piece of that equation. I'm

660
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: not saying it without Lamar Jackson. I'm just saying they

661
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: get him back and all of a sudden, you reintroduce

662
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: him into this offense. The defense playing the way they're

663
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: playing and played good in this game as well. It's

664
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: a dangerous team. That's all I'm getting at. All. Right,

665
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break, we come back, We're gonna

666
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: look at the East, where we have two teams that

667
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: have done a complete nose dive from where they were

668
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: a little over a month ago. We'll dig into that

669
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: right after this break. Man, if you were five six

670
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago when you were a fan of the Miami

671
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Dolphins in the New York Jets, you were feeling pretty good. Uh,

672
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: You're looking at your team one team, the Jets playing

673
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: unbelievable defense, one team and the Dolphins the most explosive offense, Uh,

674
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: that we had at that point in time. And Uh,

675
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: times have changed, Buck, these teams have struggled. They both

676
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: come off of the losses again this week. The Patriots

677
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: knock off the Dolphins twenty one. We'll get to the

678
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: Jets getting destroyed by the Seahawks in a minute, but

679
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: starting there with that Dolphins team. Biggest takeaway from their

680
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: collapse here, Uh, the Dolphins deemed the identity. I think

681
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: we've been kind of tricked and hoodwinked by Mike McDaniels

682
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: and what we thought this Dolphins team was going to

683
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: be when he came over. He was supposed to be

684
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: the running game guru coming over from San Francisco. A

685
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: lot of why he was a hot candidate is because

686
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: of all the creative running stuff that de Niers did

687
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: when he was in charge of the run game. Well,

688
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: now I'm looking at a team that is very quarterback centric,

689
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: very big play. Um. I would say they covered the

690
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: big play. They're always hunting the big plays all Tyreek

691
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Hill and Jade and Waddle, and so what they are

692
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: is a team that if they can't generate the big plays,

693
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: they're left with nothing. And because they've built the team

694
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: around the big play in the passing game and they're

695
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: oft injured quarterbacks are always in and out the lineup,

696
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: they don't have a solid foundation. So for me, my

697
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: My question is what is Mike McDaniel going to do

698
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: in the off season. Does he build this team around

699
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: the running game so now they have the ability to

700
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: play with whoever is that quarterback but still have the

701
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: big play uh dimension, or are they gonna continue to

702
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: live and die by the quarterback play and be a

703
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: team that we see have these ebbs and flows throughout

704
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: the season where they win four and lose floor, win

705
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: four and lose five, because that's the tale of the

706
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Dolphins season. They don't have any consistency because they don't

707
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: have a real identity. Yeah, I think that's fair, and

708
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: I think, um, it is a bit of a departure

709
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: from the expectation that we had when Mike McDaniel was

710
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: hired in Miami, Like, oh man, Rahee Moster coming over.

711
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: They get of Wilson in here too, and it's like,

712
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: oh man, we're gonna start this is this is the

713
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: forty Niners East, right in terms of the run game,

714
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: just hadn't quite been that way consistently throughout the season.

715
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: They've had games where the run game is dominated, um,

716
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: but it just has not happened enough for them to

717
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: feel like, all right, this is something we can rely

718
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: on weekend and week out regardless of who's playing quarterback,

719
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: which is again going to be a question next year

720
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: for Miami. But I think with this game told us

721
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: as these two teams were fighting and still fighting for

722
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: the number seven seed and that final wild card in

723
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: the a f C, and if it is one of

724
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: these two teams that ends up with it. Um, I

725
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: think at this point you're like, yeah, the number one

726
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: seed technically only gets a bye week, but maybe it

727
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: feels like the two seed does as well here because

728
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: do you you see the Dolphins or the Patriots or

729
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: any other team here coming in as the number seven

730
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: seed in the a f C beating a team named

731
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: the Bengals, Bills, or Chiefs. No, right, I mean that

732
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah, I

733
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: don't either. And and here's the other piece of it too, um,

734
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, for for Miami and for the Patriots. Like

735
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: I give credit to the Patriots for slowing down you know,

736
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill and not allowing them to

737
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: ruin a game. Um, but you know, I think the

738
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: quarterback play also had something to do with that in

739
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: terms of how the Dolphins were forced to attack and

740
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: then how the Patriots were able to attack without two

741
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: in there. So I am not terrifically confident. I don't

742
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: think anybody's scared of what the Patriots can attack you

743
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: with on offense. Defensively, I think, you know, they could

744
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: cause some problems, but not enough on offense, I think

745
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: to sustain anything in the postseason. Yeah, you kind of

746
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: took the words out of my mouth because I think

747
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: the defense, it is kind of a shame for this

748
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: defensive defense is really good, and this was kind of

749
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: a game that displayed what they're about defensively because you

750
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: look at it and you look at them limiting explosive plays.

751
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: The longest run was eleven yards in this game for

752
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. The longest completion they had a few

753
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: of them over twenty yards, but nothing over twenty five yards.

754
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: For an offense with all that speed on the outside,

755
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: they keep the ball in front of them. They get

756
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: too acts, they get two interceptions, so they turn you over.

757
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: They get to you just enough, and they don't give

758
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: up big place. It's a formula that works on the

759
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Unfortunately for them. You know, Buck,

760
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: when you look at the Patriots. I just don't think

761
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: their offense and the a f C, with the quarterbacks

762
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna play against, um, I just don't see them

763
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: being able to keep up. Yeah, the formula to win

764
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: at high level in the tournament, you need to have

765
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: exceptional quarterback play, and you need to be able to

766
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: rush the pass and create disruptive plays on defense. Where

767
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: they get the disruptive plays on defense, But Matt Jones

768
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: playing in a tournament that features some of the best

769
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: quarterback that you can find, particularly on the a f C,

770
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. And unless there's a a makeover

771
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: that happens between Week eighteen and the playoff tournament, I

772
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna get it done. I like

773
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: what Bill Belichick can do to keep the game close.

774
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Mac Jones and Matt Patricia are good

775
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: enough as a quarterback play called a combination to be

776
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: able to really usher me in one of these upsets. Well,

777
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: it's again the Patriots that look like they've got a

778
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: shot here. The Miami Dolphins, the way they're playing, it's

779
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: hard to have much confidence in what they're doing. It's

780
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: just kind of falling apart for them another team that's

781
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: felling apart four that yet uh, they have completely collapsed,

782
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: and lots of takeaways on this one they lose and

783
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: again that really wasn't competitive at all with the Seattle Seahawks.

784
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: Rhet biggest takeaway on this one um for Mike White.

785
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Please see commentary at top of show on Gardner Minshew,

786
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Um just uh, I mean and and with all due respect,

787
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: like the dude comes in and is a more than

788
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: serviceable QB two, But that's what he is right now.

789
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: And I think that, yeah, could some pieces have been

790
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: a bit better around him, but this and is he

791
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: probably not a hundred percent with the rib injury. Sure,

792
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: I think there's all that, But here's the other part

793
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: of this that makes it different than Gardner Minshew. Mike

794
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: White cannot be QB two in New York next season.

795
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: Cannot be, especially if Ian rapp reports report is right.

796
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas isn't shop, isn't gonna shop Zack Wilson, and

797
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: they think that Zach Wilson still is a future on

798
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: that team. There's no way that Mike White can coexist

799
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: on that roster. It's just there's too much around all

800
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: of that back and forth that those two guys with

801
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: Wilson and White, have had in and out of the

802
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: lineup at quarterback this year. For Zach to be able

803
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: to rehabilitate his confidence, Mike White's gotta be playing somewhere

804
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: else and they gotta go find another backup, which is

805
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: a shame because he's a dang good backup quarterback and

806
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: I'd love to have him on my team, but not

807
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: if I'm putting my eggs into Zach Wilson basket in

808
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: the off season. Yeah, I mean, I know they've given

809
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: lip service and they've said that they are, you know,

810
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: they're committed to Zach Wilson, if it doesn't feel that

811
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: way with the way the team is kind of, you know,

812
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: fallen out of love with their quarterback. I mean at

813
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: the head coaches moved him all around. You've you've in

814
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: and out, he's in and out, the team work, the

815
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: whole thing. It just feels like they're out of the

816
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson business, just from the outside looking in, Um,

817
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: and how they've reacted to him. But I made the

818
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: analogy earlier, UM, when I talked about Zack Wilson about

819
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: how I thought he was a home run hitter right,

820
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna go one for five. He might hit a

821
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: three run home run. He's gonna give you some chunk plays.

822
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a real efficient player. You're not

823
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna have somebody's completing seven percent of his passes. But

824
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: if you can design the offense around him, he's gonna

825
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: be able to get play action, run the ball. He's

826
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: gonna get a couple of shots. You'll have some big plays.

827
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Mike White is like the exact opposite you. You look

828
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: at the you look at the box score at the

829
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: end of the baseball game, you're like, dude, you have

830
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: three hits. That's awesome, Yeah, three singles. Because he doesn't

831
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: have enough arm or enough juice. Not not just talking

832
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: about big plays over the top, but when you get

833
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: down in the red area. You know, Buck, when you

834
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: get down in the red zone, those windows shrink. You

835
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: moved them up and down the field. Now the field

836
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: gets tight, and all of a sudden, the little flair

837
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: swings that you're throwing, the little layups that we bang

838
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: on Zach Wilson for not being able to hit, those

839
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: don't do you any good. When you get down there

840
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: in the red zone, that's why they don't score many points.

841
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: You know, For as much as everybody loves Mike White

842
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: and talk about the yards and the completions, they don't

843
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: score points. Um And then look, they weren't scoring points

844
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson either. They I don't know that their quarterbacks

845
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: on the roster right now for next year. I really don't. Well,

846
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: before you throw away the quarterback, you know, because the

847
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: one says that we have a love affair with the

848
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: draft picks, because that's what we do. We live in

849
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: that business. But before you throw away the quarterback, you

850
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: have to exhaust all the options in terms of building

851
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: him up. Did you support him with an A plus

852
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: offensive line? Does he have enough weapons on the outside

853
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: to do what he needs to do in the past game?

854
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: Is the scheme the right fit for Zach Wilson and

855
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: what he does? Indeed, you when I'm listening to you

856
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: and I'm here, hey, maybe they need to run the ball,

857
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: throw play action and do those things. I can't confidently

858
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: say that when I look at the Jets game that

859
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: their offense looked anything like what I've seen from Look

860
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners, even the Cleveland Browns at

861
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: times when you're running the football and throwing it deep.

862
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: If your quarterback is a deep ball thrower, then you

863
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: have to set him up to have opportunities to push

864
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I don't feel like this

865
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: offense fits what he does, and so I believe Robert solid.

866
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Before you even can make a decision on Zach Wilson,

867
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: you gotta look at the scheme and say, is the

868
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: scene is the scheme elevating what they possibly could do

869
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: on offense? And I don't think they do that. I'm

870
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with you. Rhet was left speechless. So

871
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's in agreement with us on that. Sorry,

872
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: you're waiting on me the pretty much him in get

873
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: a little a little retttle extra Reht, little sprinkle, a

874
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: little extra Reet and that. Well, we'll save Reht for

875
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: the next one because website on this next segment. Yeah,

876
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back talk

877
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: about those college football semifinals. Reet, was that one of them?

878
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: Both incredible games. We've got lots of takeaways. We'll get

879
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: to those right after this break. All right, let's jump

880
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: into these college football semifinal games, which were bonkers. We've

881
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: had so many years since this college football playoff kicked

882
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: off where these semifinal games were blowouts. They weren't entertaining.

883
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: Everybody complained about him uh to having to Barnburner unbelievable

884
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: games rhet. I know you were at one of them.

885
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: What was the atmosphere like there for that big Fiesta

886
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Bowl matchup between Michigan and TCU, And what were your

887
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway? Incredible? Like, the atmosphere was incredible and I'm

888
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: not like trying to be hyperbolic here, like that was

889
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: in a in unreal atmosphere inside State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona,

890
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: home of Super Bowl fifty seven. By the way, you know,

891
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: I've been inside that stadium for a number of games.

892
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: I've never heard it like that. And then to also

893
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: think that you only had half the stadium full of

894
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: one team's fans and it was like as loud as

895
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: you would imagine it being if the whole team, the

896
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: whole stadium was full of just you know, Cardinals fans

897
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: or just tc Like that was incredible both of those

898
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: teams fan bases travel that thing was sold out. It

899
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: was every seat was filled. Um, it was it was

900
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: a beautiful atmosphere and then the game was just wild, right,

901
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like hand all the way up. As one

902
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: of the guys who was like Donovan Everards breaks up

903
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: the fifty four yard run on the first play from scrimmage,

904
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: and I'm perfectly executed, perfectly blocked up play for Michigan

905
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: and that dominant offensive line, and I was like, oh boy,

906
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long day for TCU. Well it

907
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: turns out that couldn't have been further from the truth, right,

908
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: And I think we blame some of that on Michigan's

909
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: play calling inside the five, inside the red zone. There's

910
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: no way the game like this that one you can

911
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: throw two pick six is which J. J. McCarthy did,

912
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: and two you can come on, you can go three

913
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: times inside the five and come away with three points total. Like,

914
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: that's not winning football and you do that to yourself, right,

915
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, Roman Wilson probably scored on that deep

916
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: ball touchdown, But don't fumble the ball in one yard line.

917
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Just don't do it. Uh, you know, it's basic football.

918
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: A couple of takeaways from that game, and a lot

919
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: of them come on the TCU side, not surprisingly with

920
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: the way that their defense played. Guys that I'm going

921
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: back to look and watch a lot more of d winners.

922
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Linebacker Dylan Horton, the edge rusher, Johnny Hodges, the linebacker,

923
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: LTS nephew Travius Hodges, Tomlinson do it. It's an overused phrase,

924
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: but the kids got some dog in him. Like that

925
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: dude was all over the field. He's got a little

926
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: bit of an awareness thing to work out with some

927
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: of those p I penalties, but he is a physical dude.

928
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really good slot corner in

929
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: this league. And then there's a couple of their their

930
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: other secondary players, Bud Clark, Miller, Branford was all over

931
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: the field like those dudes are ready for this game.

932
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: And when I tell you, Johnny Hodges transferred from Navy

933
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: into TCU. Tc was his only offer out of the

934
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: transfer portal of the Power five right. He played lacrosse

935
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: at Navy and then ended up walking on as a linebacker,

936
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: got the scholarship to TCU. He was I was there

937
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: on media day on Thursday. He would not He talked

938
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: like he was like when I was asking him about Michigan,

939
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: like he could couldn't even he was gritting his teeth

940
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: the whole time. He was like tired of hearing about

941
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Michigan and the offensive line and the physicality, and like

942
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: he is ready to play now. And it's clear that

943
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: TCU was the more ready to play team in this game,

944
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: and they showed it. The other thing that I think

945
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: is really interesting about that game, um and about TCUs demeanor,

946
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Like there were times where Michigan was making a run

947
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: and you were like, oh, all right, Michigan's back. They

948
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: scored a couple of times in a row, but every

949
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: time TCU had an answer, they would come back and

950
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: they'd stem the tide as I mean, and that's impressive

951
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: in a scene. AREO like that to me? So I

952
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: was just I came away fully impressed with TCU. Yeah,

953
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: I was really impressed by t c us effort. Um.

954
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Their speed stood out when you watched the game. Uh,

955
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: they ran away from the Michigan defenders. I felt like

956
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: the way that Max Duggan played eid a really good

957
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: job taking advantage of some of the opportunities that were created.

958
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be honest, I feel like this was

959
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: more of a game of Michigan losing than TCU winning

960
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: and that's not being disrespectful to the horn Frogs because

961
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: they took advantage of the opportunities that were there for them.

962
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: But when you think about winning big games, the number

963
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: one thing that you have to do is avoid the

964
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: d b O s meaning turnovers, big plays, allowed penalties,

965
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: and kicking game errors. And when I watched their game

966
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: from Michigan, I saw them just implode in several of

967
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: those areas. Uh, the turnovers, you can't have two pick

968
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: six is, you can't fom the ball in the red zone. Uh,

969
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: you can't allow if you're going blitz, you can't allow

970
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: guys to catch shall acrosses and go seventy six yards

971
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: after big plays. And so to me, it was all

972
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: of that stuff happening on a major stage. And I

973
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: don't want to say the game was too big for Mischigan,

974
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: but I felt like at a at a at a

975
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: big moment, they pick the worst time to play their

976
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: worst game, and it's it's unfortunate that they didn't stay

977
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: true to their identity. But hats off to TCU because

978
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: now they're rewarded with the game against Georgia, and I

979
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: think the Bulldogs we have the antenna's up, and so

980
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: we get a true test for how good tc you

981
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: can play on that major stage. Well, you know in sports,

982
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: you can you announce a retirement. Then they have the

983
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: ceremony where they you know, you get out there. They

984
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: raised the jersey up into the rafters. That's what we're

985
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: doing for Philly Special. Okay, Philly Special, you had a

986
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: great run. We're gonna we're gonna take the place sheet

987
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna send that place sheet right

988
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: up to the top of the stadium and put it

989
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: up there. Stop. You're Michigan, You're the more physical team.

990
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: You've got the best offensive line in the country two

991
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: years in a row. Why are you trying this stuff

992
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: in that situation? You got outside of who you were

993
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: And I'm look, I'm I give TCU cra There's grit,

994
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: there is toughness, there is speed, absolutely that they possess.

995
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: But man, Michigan moved the ball up and down the

996
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: field at ease. And Rett's talking about their defense. They

997
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: gave up forty five points. Michigan should have scored sixty

998
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: five points in this game. Uh, they moved it up

999
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: and down the field. They couldn't cash it in, you

1000
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: turn it over. You think about the points wings on

1001
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: pick six. Is the way Michigan was moving the ball,

1002
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: you assume they probably go down and score. That's like

1003
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: twenty eight points a difference in this game. It could

1004
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: have been a Michigan blowout, which I think a lot

1005
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: of people anticipated we were gonna see, but self inflicted wounds.

1006
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: To Bucky's point, I was talking to Brandon Staley, the

1007
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Charger's head coach yesterday before the game against the Rams,

1008
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: and we were talking about these playoff games, and I said, coach,

1009
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: how would you like to be a defensive coordinator in

1010
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: college football right now? I mean, those games are track meets,

1011
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, with the hash marks and the speed and

1012
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: the space. And he goes, yeah, there's no competition committee

1013
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: in college They don't care about the defensive rights here.

1014
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: This is offensive football. So go out recruit as many

1015
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: offensive athletes as you can get, and then play defense.

1016
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: Like you know, Bucky, you're kind of saying, you gotta

1017
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: take some some risk. You've got to get some turnovers

1018
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: because you're not stopping these offenses. So that was on

1019
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: display and then in my finals and perfectly just trying

1020
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: to described Ohio State too, right, get right to that game.

1021
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: Block jump on that one. That was a wild game

1022
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State in Georgia. Yeah, wild game. But I'll say

1023
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: this because we had a vested interests obviously c J.

1024
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: Strou playing in it. We're gonna talk about him a

1025
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: lot on the path to the draft. It is to

1026
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: me the best games I've seen him play in a

1027
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: big moment, I feel like he was in his bag.

1028
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: I felt like that was the moment that if you're

1029
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: a scout that likes him, that's the first tape you're

1030
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna put on the seal. Uh. C J. Stroud to

1031
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: the GM what he could do, size, athleticism, arm talent.

1032
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: He ran more than we've ever seen him run during

1033
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: the time at Ohio State, and it added the dimension

1034
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: to their offense. But let's be honest. The game change

1035
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: with Marvin Harrison Jr. Goes out the game, and when

1036
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: he goes out the game, they lose one of their

1037
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: They're down two big time wide receivers. And we can

1038
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: talk about the job that Brian hard Line does with

1039
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: their receivers and how they just have been a factor

1040
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: reproducing them, but now you're without two of your top guys,

1041
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: because Marvin Harrison Jr. Was the main guy for the

1042
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: moment and he was already having a big game. And

1043
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 1: so it is one of those games where we saw

1044
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: all of the talent, all of the I guess fireworks

1045
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: that you wanted to see because of a very entertaining game.

1046
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: But C. J. Strout certainly made a case to be

1047
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: one of the top quarterbacks that we talked about indust

1048
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: draft class if he comes out. Yeah, I really, I

1049
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: mean again, I think this game, you know, I think

1050
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: this game is completely different um for Ohio State, even

1051
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: though they were right there obviously the entire way lad

1052
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: this game. But think about if Jackson Smith and Jake

1053
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: was available, think about if trade on Henderson is available

1054
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: for them at running back. And by the way that

1055
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: you know that running back room has been uh you know,

1056
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: decimated by injury this year and Chip train them running

1057
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: the football converted linebacker for much of the season, so

1058
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: uh or much of the last part of this season.

1059
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: I just I feel really good about where Ohio State is.

1060
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: And I know the sky feels like it's falling for

1061
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: them after losing to Michigan two years in a row

1062
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Speaker 1: and you know, not finding their way into a national

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00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: title game here. But I think Ryan Day has that

1064
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: program exactly where they should be, exactly where they're going

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Speaker 1: to be a contender each and every year. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, they got the top two receivers in the

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Speaker 1: country that committed to them, uh in this last recruiting cycle.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like there's gonna be something that shop off,

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00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be status quo there. Um. But for Georgia, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would be a little concerned at the

1071
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Speaker 1: way things are going. Keilly ringo um in that secondary

1072
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Speaker 1: got beat up in this game. And don't talking about

1073
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Speaker 1: maybe wide receiver one in this draft and Quentin Johnson

1074
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: coming in here in the national title games. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm Georgia's secondary, I got a lot of work to

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Speaker 1: do here in the next eight days seven days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And some people brought up a couple of points that

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Speaker 1: I've talked to to look, Georgie didn't see ma any

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Speaker 1: good offenses this year, so maybe we overad this defense

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not the group they had last

1081
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: year after all those guys that they lost. I thought

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Speaker 1: I agree with Buck too. This was the signature c J.

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00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: Stroud game. I just was working on quarterbacks over the

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Speaker 1: last week and went and watched a bunch of his

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00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: tape this year. Actually still liked him better this year

1086
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Speaker 1: than I did last year. You know, some people kind

1087
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: of thought, oh, maybe it is you know Plateau as

1088
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: he dropped off at all. I thought he played great

1089
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: this year. I thought he's using his legs more. I

1090
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: thought he's got more zip. I thought he's driving the

1091
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: ball better than he did last year. My only concern

1092
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: was can this guy beat a free rusher? Can this

1093
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: guy create We've talked about that all the time. That's

1094
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 1: what you have to do. Can you get those seven

1095
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: yards the defense is gonna give you? And he did it.

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00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: He did it with his legs in this game. He

1097
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: extended plays, moved around within the pocket. I thought that

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00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: was outstanding. It was a great game for c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud um. But for those that you know, we're gonna

1100
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Speaker 1: have that debate Stroud versus Bryce Young? Will he gonna

1101
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: get involved in that discussion as well. The only thing

1102
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: I would remind you is, you know, CJ did great,

1103
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: But I also saw Bryce Young last year in the

1104
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: SEC Championship game when he had Metchi and he had

1105
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. He had his receivers healthy against the Georgia defense,

1106
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: that defense plus six guys that they lost that went

1107
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Speaker 1: high in the draft last year, and Bryce Young put

1108
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: four plus on him uh and dominated against that defense.

1109
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Speaker 1: Bryce has got those big moments too. We didn't talk

1110
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: about his ball game. He went off again the other

1111
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: guy as well. Right, he threw five touchdowns like five

1112
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Speaker 1: different receivers. So it's funny because we're gonna have this debate,

1113
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have it. Look, I can't imagine once

1114
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Speaker 1: a week, twice a week gonna pack to the draft.

1115
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the quarterbacks. And to me, what

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00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: do you mean uh to to me? When it comes

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Speaker 1: down to c J. Stroud and Bryce Young, It's gonna

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Speaker 1: come down to prospect versus performer, meaning the prospect and

1119
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Speaker 1: c J. Stroude that checks off all the boxes physically,

1120
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Speaker 1: arm talent, athleticism versus the performer and Bryce Young where

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Speaker 1: you can just pull out any game tape and in

1122
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: several key moments, Bryce Young looks like the best player

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Speaker 1: on the field. It's going to be a fascinating discussion.

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Speaker 1: And I know people that throw will left us in there,

1125
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Speaker 1: but to me. That is going to be the debate

1126
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Speaker 1: prospect versus performer? Who do you want to be the

1127
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Speaker 1: number one overall pick? And in spite of like the

1128
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Speaker 1: size thing, that is gonna drive you raised with Bryce

1129
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: young Man, the player, the players, everything that you wanted

1130
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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. It is going to be a nightmare

1131
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: to have some of those conversations in draft rooms around

1132
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, no, it's gonna be fun. I mean

1133
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Speaker 1: there's already there are discussions, you know about how do

1134
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Speaker 1: you view the fact that Bryce young couldn't really throw

1135
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: and practice, you know, for over a month because of

1136
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Some people look at that and say, oh,

1137
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: you see, durability wise, he's not gonna be able to

1138
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: hold up in the NFL. He's too little. It's already

1139
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: kind of he's already a little bit beat up. Other

1140
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: people like, look in the toughness. This guy couldn't even

1141
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: practice during the week. He just showed up in the

1142
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: games and still made plays and had his team ready

1143
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: to go. So you're gonna hear a million different opinions

1144
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: on this stuff, and it's gonna be a fun debate

1145
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: as we head towards the spring. I want to wish

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Speaker 1: all you guys, Happy New Year. This has been a

1147
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Speaker 1: fun show. Hope everybody has enjoyed hanging with us. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time right here on move the sticks reminder,

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Speaker 1: all of our content, NFL's YouTube channel, nfl dot com

1150
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Speaker 1: uh and the NFL app. We'll see you next time

1151
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Speaker 1: right here. Happy to hear everybody got team to go

1152
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Speaker 1: up to tom dot to Temple, up to Lott