Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very
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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I'll be doing my hair when I
Speaker 2: feel like but.
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Speaker 1: Vet today. So today we are not in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: We are over here at eighty five South hanging out
Speaker 1: crashing eighty five South Studio. So shout out to y'all.
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, So I gotta know. I gotta
Speaker 1: know what you were eating when you were.
Speaker 2: Broke and I was broke.
Speaker 1: Well, we kind of grew up with a kind of
Speaker 1: you know, so I used to eat like ketchup.
Speaker 3: Sound we just got to school because yeah.
Speaker 1: I was hungry and tried like I remember when we
Speaker 1: used to have like hot dogs, like picnics and you
Speaker 1: know when you eat all to meet out, but it's
Speaker 1: still like a little bread left or like ketchup on it.
Speaker 2: That party be good.
Speaker 1: So one day I was thinking, I'm like, let's try
Speaker 1: ketchup sew I did, and you came up with it.
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of came but I was like,
Speaker 1: let's try it, and then once I tried it, it
Speaker 1: was good. Okay, we're gonna see how good it taste.
Speaker 1: For at what age was this?
Speaker 2: I was at grade school?
Speaker 1: Grade school? All right, let's do it. Alright, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna follow your lead. We got to do so, you're.
Speaker 2: Just gonna grab one.
Speaker 1: I will say this.
Speaker 2: You gotta make sure you shake it up.
Speaker 4: Shout outs to you, because I've done almost one hundred
Speaker 4: episodes of this show.
Speaker 1: Better grace of God, I have not done the ketchup
Speaker 1: saying okay, I love how you refer to the you
Speaker 1: know what. I hope they don't. I don't think we
Speaker 1: pulled the go ahead open it. It still got the
Speaker 1: seal on it can't no one has touched the Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: hold on, I got nails.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna do it right.
Speaker 1: I got nails, but your nails look mine a little
Speaker 1: bit more. Yes, watch both of us struggles.
Speaker 2: I mean we kind of got a knife.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bite it. I'm gonna be that person.
Speaker 2: Guys. I always thinking about buying it, but then my
Speaker 2: lip gloss and line it.
Speaker 1: Is just gonna be Okay, I got it. I gotta go.
Speaker 2: Okay, look, take you out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You get it, teamwork. Okay, okay, let's see it. Make
Speaker 2: sure you shake it up because you know that little
Speaker 2: stuff that come off, the little liquid would make you
Speaker 2: not even want the sandwich, and so is watering.
Speaker 1: Now are you doing a lot? Okay, that's how much
Speaker 1: we're supposed to bil Okay, here we go. I got
Speaker 1: so much more, uh admiration for you. So I have
Speaker 1: a little saying I say on this show, is the
Speaker 1: broker the dish, the better the story. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: don't see you eating this whole sandwich on this show.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna cheers to our bite. Is it gonna
Speaker 1: We're gonna eat it like butter toast so much sometimes
Speaker 1: I like smash it together and then sometimes I just
Speaker 1: I just like eat it like this, So we don't
Speaker 1: wait would make you feel better. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna che Here we go.
Speaker 2: I haven't ate this in years, okay, or here we go.
Speaker 2: I gotta smelling now.
Speaker 5: Okay, that is another bad and now I ain't gonna
Speaker 5: lie since I ate this New Years, I thought we
Speaker 5: were gonna be like.
Speaker 1: It's actually not bad. I don't know if it's because
Speaker 1: the bread is like Artisian bread, so it's kind of good.
Speaker 1: But this really works. It's nothing bad and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hate on you eat like one or twoities and technopotyth
Speaker 1: You were fine. You're hilarious. So what was your home
Speaker 1: life looking like?
Speaker 2: So we were like, hmmm, let me shoot his bread up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have so much, so much respect for you.
Speaker 1: Just off the sandwich, okay, because I've been broke, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever been kind of men
Speaker 1: hm hm.
Speaker 2: You were like a lower class family. I don't know, Like.
Speaker 1: We had the things we needed, but never what we wanted. Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes we wanted, but not a lot. You know. My
Speaker 1: grandmother basically took the road of my dad, and I
Speaker 1: had my mom as well, so they were like co parenting.
Speaker 1: I was back and forth to the houses. Did you
Speaker 1: grow up with your dad at all? Or okay, you
Speaker 1: meet him or no, you never met him? I mean
Speaker 1: I have met him, but we don't we don't like
Speaker 1: talk with anything. So I lived with my mama for
Speaker 1: like the school year and like coming home from like school,
Speaker 1: if we ain't have food, which.
Speaker 2: It used to be food that we have to cook
Speaker 2: and we kids don't.
Speaker 1: We don't know how to cook, so we would resort to,
Speaker 1: you know, things like this.
Speaker 2: Or I would go to my neighbor house.
Speaker 1: We used to call her Big Mama because she didn't
Speaker 1: like being called granny, but she she was she was
Speaker 1: she was like an older lady and I used to
Speaker 1: hang with her grandkids. So I used to go to
Speaker 1: her house like I'm hungry, can I can I have something?
Speaker 1: And she would like give me soups, some soups, or
Speaker 1: she would make me like sandwiches. But I didn't want
Speaker 1: to like always ask her for stuff because I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't want her to ask, Mama, like you need
Speaker 1: even to help you, you know. So it was that
Speaker 1: the middle school that I went to like every day
Speaker 1: in recess, so I had so I had like this
Speaker 1: rap group or whatever. We would do like battles in
Speaker 1: them and we were win because I you know. And
Speaker 1: then one day I came home and I told my
Speaker 1: mom and them, I'm like I want to be a rapper,
Speaker 1: and it was like you can't rap. I'm like, yeah
Speaker 1: I can, So I can pulled out this paper this
Speaker 1: filled with just like like raps on that and I
Speaker 1: was like reading it to them and then some my
Speaker 1: uh so, my stepdad he was like, you have a
Speaker 1: lot of verses, but you have to make a hook.
Speaker 1: Because because he didn't have a hook, I guess I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what the hook was. I was just
Speaker 1: writing around like I was in grade school.
Speaker 2: How old are you in grade school?
Speaker 1: It was like from like grade school from what I
Speaker 1: can remember, it was like like second to like fifth. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you started young at rapper?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was young.
Speaker 1: Who was who was you looking up to at that point?
Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on to rap?
Speaker 2: Like you know what? Like, I didn't like nobody in
Speaker 2: my family really listened to music that much.
Speaker 1: It was just like the radio or like so my
Speaker 1: dad he would like have like these music videos, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really like pay attention to them. It'll it'll
Speaker 1: just be something to like watch while we're in a
Speaker 1: car or something and just be it. You know, it'll
Speaker 1: like blow over. But as far as doing music, like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I just could do it.
Speaker 1: So it was just something I did.
Speaker 2: You know, But were there particular rappers that inspired you? Hmmm?
Speaker 1: I just used to like songs, so like, no, not really.
Speaker 1: I just used to listen to the radio. Then I
Speaker 1: then I would hear the beat. Then I would come
Speaker 1: up with a different cadence to it. And that's how
Speaker 1: it happened. Okay, So literally after that, I kind of
Speaker 1: didn't have like I didn't have the family that would
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, since you want to be a rapper,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to end in vesting you like this
Speaker 1: or teach you that. Like I didn't have nobody to
Speaker 1: teach that. Everything that I know now you know, I
Speaker 1: have to go through it. And I really stopped rapping.
Speaker 2: I started doing hair.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take me back to the hook. So he
Speaker 1: mentions that you need to know what a hook is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he just told me, like a hook is something
Speaker 1: that would catch everybody's attention for the song. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: kind of brush it off and was just steady doing
Speaker 1: you know what we were doing in like recess and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 1: It really did not go further after that because I
Speaker 1: went to middle school, I started growing up.
Speaker 2: I started having friends.
Speaker 1: I started going to their houses because you know, they
Speaker 1: had a lot of stuff. They had freedom too, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't really have freedom growing up. My mom really
Speaker 1: was like kind of street, you know. So as I
Speaker 1: was making friends, I had thought that I was gonna
Speaker 1: do hair because I used to do my hair because
Speaker 1: I used to always want to look pretty.
Speaker 2: But we couldn't afford nobody to do it.
Speaker 1: So I started doing mine, and then my friends like, oh,
Speaker 1: keep do mine, and I started doing thirst, and then
Speaker 1: I just started doing hair for free, and my mom
Speaker 1: was like, you're not gonna keep on doing her for free.
Speaker 1: You gotta charge them something. So like, for like really
Speaker 1: long skinny box braids, I used charged like thirty.
Speaker 2: Five dollars and she was still, man, I'm like.
Speaker 1: I'm charging But where were you learning how to do
Speaker 1: the hair from YouTube? Oh? You were youtubecause YouTube learning. Okay,
Speaker 1: so like this was middle school now, So I'm doing
Speaker 1: box braids for thirty five dollars.
Speaker 2: Mm oh yeah.
Speaker 1: If I was doing my mom, i'd be like what yeah,
Speaker 1: But I didn't understand why she was so mad back then.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you said, charge him, I'm charging him. She's
Speaker 1: like I'm like what I want charged?
Speaker 2: Like, and like, you know, it was just something to do.
Speaker 2: It was just fun. So I was doing that.
Speaker 1: Then I had started doing like quick weaves and stuff,
Speaker 1: but of course I didn't know what I was doing,
Speaker 1: so I was like yanking my hair out, but I was.
Speaker 2: Still putting week back in my hair because I'm like,
Speaker 2: get I'll learn someway, you know.
Speaker 1: And then I started getting in trouble, like I got
Speaker 1: put out, like my eight grade year, like and your mom, no,
Speaker 1: put out of school? Oh god, so I can put
Speaker 1: out school? And for what the fighting? You fighting? What
Speaker 1: back in the day you was fighting? Girls?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Girls, teachers.
Speaker 1: The teacher fighters got me put out. Yeah, the teacher
Speaker 1: fighters got me put out.
Speaker 2: Actually make you.
Speaker 1: Hit the teacher? Did you hit a teacher?
Speaker 2: They hit me first.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. What do you mean they hit you from?
Speaker 1: Because okay, okay, so we were I was I was
Speaker 1: leaving art class and some girls were like argument.
Speaker 2: But I didn't even like them girls. I was just
Speaker 2: gonna watch them fight.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, So my cousin trying to be
Speaker 1: like a superman and get in the middle because I
Speaker 1: guess she liked one of the girls and did not
Speaker 1: like the other ones.
Speaker 2: So it was like trying to like be petty, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you need to move out the way
Speaker 2: and let them fight.
Speaker 1: And then as I'm moving her out the way, the
Speaker 1: girl that I don't like, I don't I didn't like
Speaker 1: nan one of them. So the so one of them
Speaker 1: tried to hit the other girl want to paint in
Speaker 1: my cousin. So now it's like, okay, now now I
Speaker 1: gotta beat you up, you see, my cousin. So as
Speaker 1: as real fighting, you know, people like teachers is like
Speaker 1: grabbing us and stuff. But like I always used to
Speaker 1: be like a little wiggily worm, like I can, I
Speaker 1: can get out of anything.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna hold me too long.
Speaker 1: So I didn't drop down and went back to the
Speaker 1: girl and started beating her up. And then this art
Speaker 1: teacher she was not kind of you know, a little big.
Speaker 2: She just gonna push me to the wall. Like she
Speaker 2: wasn't even trying to break up the fight. She just
Speaker 2: pushed me to the wall. When I looked, it was like,
Speaker 2: you know the teacher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you say do like multiple yes, yes, hilarious.
Speaker 2: I thought she was jumping in the hair or something.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, so.
Speaker 1: As I'm booping her, you know, my cousin comes and
Speaker 1: start booping her too sore and yeah, so boom it
Speaker 1: was that kicked out. Actually only me and my cousin
Speaker 1: got kicked out, not the two girls that was gonna
Speaker 1: fight and they jumping the teacher.
Speaker 2: It sounds like we were.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so yeah, so boom that that was the
Speaker 1: start of me just getting put out of school because
Speaker 1: at that point it was it was like I was
Speaker 1: like a minute, like I was just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't care, you know, I didn't I didn't care,
Speaker 1: So then like I didn't really have like guidance, what
Speaker 1: did your mom say when you get kicked out? For him?
Speaker 1: And teaching well being as though that it was my
Speaker 1: cousin fight that I jumped into. It was like they
Speaker 1: always tell us like, if you watch somebody beat up
Speaker 1: your cousin, your sibling, then when you get home, we're
Speaker 1: gonna whoop you.
Speaker 2: So I was like, y'all told me to jump at
Speaker 2: our fights. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: So I kind of kind of slid with that, And
Speaker 2: when I told.
Speaker 1: Them that the teacher pushed me, they wouldn't even bring
Speaker 1: up that video, like they were like, oh, so our
Speaker 1: cameras broke your lying show hard that you pushed me,
Speaker 1: and that's why it happened like that, but for broke
Speaker 1: quote unquote, you know, and then that kind of didn't
Speaker 1: Then then then in there either we had thought we
Speaker 1: were actually walking back to the classroom because things got rowdy,
Speaker 1: so you know, we kind of squazed out of the
Speaker 1: group and tried to walk back to our classroom and
Speaker 1: actually got brought out our classroom like no, you hit me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like I did. And in the office we
Speaker 1: were like plotting to get the girl again and did
Speaker 1: not know that they were in her listening to it.
Speaker 1: So it was it was odd that written up in
Speaker 1: the stavement and I was just like, you guys won, okay.
Speaker 1: And after that, I was just like I don't care,
Speaker 1: you know. I once I turned to school and I
Speaker 1: was started for like three hours, and I was the
Speaker 1: youngest youngest one there, and I'm just like, it's cool,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't I gotta go to school four day.
Speaker 1: I gotta see these folks, I gotta talk to them
Speaker 1: because we did everything on our computers.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: So my first year, they led me back into regular
Speaker 1: school and this is when I started back doing covers
Speaker 1: again because I was seeing girls on Facebook go go
Speaker 1: viral for just sitting in the cars wrapping, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a car, so I can just pop
Speaker 1: my Oh. So I didn't have have a phone that
Speaker 1: was on. I think either I found the phone somewhere
Speaker 1: or I actually like saved the way you like body
Speaker 1: from like doing hair. So I used to prop my
Speaker 1: phone up and like play a beat off of my
Speaker 1: TV because I had like a little game. And then
Speaker 1: I go to YouTube and I play the beat and
Speaker 1: I used to do covers. My first cove I did.
Speaker 1: I did not have no beat to it. I did
Speaker 1: it a capella and it was to the Day's Long
Speaker 1: try Me. And I posted it at like seven something,
Speaker 1: and I woke up the next morning totally forgot that
Speaker 1: I posted a video. I'm in class posting a picture
Speaker 1: knowing I ain't got no being to doing it posting
Speaker 1: a picture and it got like a thousand and some
Speaker 1: likes in like thirty minutes. I'm like, go on, and
Speaker 1: I posted a second picture. I'm like, let me see
Speaker 1: if it's gonna do it again, And when it did
Speaker 1: it again, I'm like, so I'm going through the notifications
Speaker 1: and I realized that the video that I posted the
Speaker 1: night prior is viral. So they're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you're so pretty. We didn't know you can rap, you
Speaker 1: can sing too, And I'm like, oh my god. And
Speaker 1: now looking back on that video, I looked at like crazy,
Speaker 1: like I had some really fat box braids in my head,
Speaker 1: I had some bright pink lipstick, some really big eyelashes.
Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all like that great? Okay.
Speaker 1: So after that, I just kept going viral, doing during
Speaker 1: covers and all that. And so my cousin, my cousin
Speaker 1: who I got into that fight with ed in middle school,
Speaker 1: she actually passed away the beginning of our senior and
Speaker 1: that sent me right off the right, off the rails
Speaker 1: and the like. Before the school year was over. On
Speaker 1: our junior year, we got into a fight like the
Speaker 1: last week of school, thinking like, oh, guys, I gotta
Speaker 1: put us out. They put me out and I have
Speaker 1: to start my senior year and altern to school. And
Speaker 1: she was supposed to go to regular school, but she
Speaker 1: never was able to start school because she died. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what you don't mind asking, I never seen the autopsy,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't tell you to be honest. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of crazy things going on around his time,
Speaker 1: so they like send me off the rails, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't cry about life. I didn't cary about nothing.
Speaker 1: That's when I was always outside of fighting. I was
Speaker 1: really going to school, like I don't know how I
Speaker 1: finished my senior to did your mom think to put
Speaker 1: you in therapy or anything to deal with that? To
Speaker 1: be honest, no, no, like I didn't. I didn't have
Speaker 1: the type of family they would say, hey, we see
Speaker 1: that you're going through something, let's go get your help.
Speaker 1: You know, it would it would just be, oh, she's
Speaker 1: just disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Oh she's just she.
Speaker 1: Just after your cousin passing. They didn't see like the
Speaker 1: I think I became very fear like, like because I
Speaker 1: didn't fear nothing, so I was willing to do anything.
Speaker 1: And people who are very unpredictable you would stay away
Speaker 1: from because you don't know what they're capable of. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of what my family did. They stayed away
Speaker 1: from me because it was like if you don't want
Speaker 1: to deal with her, you know. And she died August fourteenth,
Speaker 1: and that like for the whole year, I was going crazy,
Speaker 1: like I was. I was drinking, I was smoking, I
Speaker 1: was really going to school. I was always fighting, and
Speaker 1: you were in high school at this point. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I graduated how I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I did it, you know. And it still didn't
Speaker 1: stop there, you know. I was still Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: still going crazy. And are you still doing your upkeep
Speaker 1: with the online stuff? Yes this point. So, so at
Speaker 1: this point, people are following me because I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: drama magnet.
Speaker 2: Like it's like always something going on. So they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: she she's going to fight, Let me follow her. Oh
Speaker 2: she's allregu let me, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's so they're tuning in because of the darkness
Speaker 1: that was around, you know. And August fourteenth, a year later,
Speaker 1: I was I'm always to a fight, and I got
Speaker 1: shy and I'm on your way to a fight. Nah
Speaker 1: at the fight. I got shy at the fight. It
Speaker 1: was supposed long story, it was supposed to be a fight.
Speaker 1: It was, but it was not a fight.
Speaker 2: I got shy, and.
Speaker 1: I'm so at this time, so I so I have
Speaker 1: my own car and I'm trying to like drive myself
Speaker 1: to like the hospital.
Speaker 2: But I couldn't because every time that.
Speaker 1: I would try to drive, my my hand would come
Speaker 1: off the wound and I will start bleeding.
Speaker 2: So my cousin had to drive me.
Speaker 1: And I'm like thinking to myself, I'm like, okay, it's
Speaker 1: I'm funn to go be with my cousin at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like whatever, I don't care, like it's
Speaker 1: time for me to go. And then I'm just hearing
Speaker 1: her voice, you know, she like, no, you're not, No,
Speaker 1: you're not, and I don't know, you know, Like I
Speaker 1: started calling on my family. I'm like, I got shot.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, you didn't, because it's like I used
Speaker 1: to have very dark he went back in it, like
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of still have dark hement with it.
Speaker 1: Would they would be put because people don't like dark
Speaker 1: human anymore. I'm like, I seriously got shot and we're
Speaker 1: like show you. So I would show them and they
Speaker 1: were like you like now, it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: They they drove me to the hospital. I was I
Speaker 1: was put on blackout. Did not know what it was
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Blackout is when you get shot but you survive. They
Speaker 1: don't know if whoever come back. They don't know if
Speaker 1: whoever shot you is going to come back to to
Speaker 1: try to kill you, so they won't say what hospital
Speaker 1: you are at?
Speaker 2: Can nobody come and see you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: So like when your family went to look for you
Speaker 1: to could they couldn't find you? Yeah, And basically they
Speaker 1: only found me because they tracked my phone because they
Speaker 1: had my location, and and the hospital still didn't even
Speaker 1: want to let them in because they were like, we
Speaker 1: don't know if you are family. At that point, I
Speaker 1: was sedated because me and the doctor actually got intour
Speaker 1: because she was being very rough trying to clean my wound.
Speaker 1: I'm like, give me the God, and she was like,
Speaker 1: you can't do that.
Speaker 2: So I grabbed it from her.
Speaker 1: Wait where was your wound? Exactly?
Speaker 2: I had to take whoever now? Oh wow, So we're like.
Speaker 1: So you was like it better than you can so
Speaker 1: so so she's like trying to like she's right here,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, give me the God.
Speaker 2: So I grabbed it from her.
Speaker 1: So now were tussling over this gud and I feel
Speaker 1: a sharp pain in his arm because I was sedated.
Speaker 2: They got mass you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's like they got me and everything. After they
Speaker 1: just went like I don't know like I was. I
Speaker 1: was seeing doubles, like if I see one light, I
Speaker 1: would see five of them. If you say hey, I
Speaker 1: were hear hey hey hey, Like it was crazy.
Speaker 2: I was like yeah.
Speaker 1: So once I finally came to it was a detective
Speaker 1: to my right and to my left it was like,
Speaker 1: who shot you?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, wrong place, wrong time, Let me out there,
Speaker 1: I don't you know. They're like, are you sure? I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm like, where's my family? Like and then
Speaker 1: when they finally came in Wroong, they were like yeah,
Speaker 1: they wasn't trying to let us back here. They didn't
Speaker 1: think we were a real family. You're on blackout like
Speaker 1: they explained it to me. And then they sent me home.
Speaker 1: And you didn't know who shot you? Mhm no, yeah
Speaker 1: I didn't, but it was it was an accidental. Do
Speaker 1: you think mm hmm, no, it was maybe it was
Speaker 1: wrong place, wrong time, Maybe maybe they didn't know how
Speaker 1: to aim.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine.
Speaker 1: You know. And what do you think about it being
Speaker 1: the date to the anniversary date of your cousin? Did
Speaker 1: you feel like you surviving it meant something. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: felt like that was that was like my second chance
Speaker 1: at life. That was like, chill out, stop doing it,
Speaker 1: Stop stop meeting up for fights, stop stop drinking, stop
Speaker 1: stop smoking, focus on your music, focus on doing hair.
Speaker 1: Get you a job, like you are wasting your life
Speaker 1: right now, you know, like do better, you know. So
Speaker 1: after that, I just stopped hanging with everybody that I
Speaker 1: was hanging with because I felt like that I just
Speaker 1: had to go into isolation, you know, which I attached
Speaker 1: myself to this toxic man.
Speaker 2: Oh horrible. He was like a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Speaker 1: At first he was great, Like when I got shot,
Speaker 1: so my car looked at like a murdercing like it
Speaker 1: was like blood everywhere and I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: clean it out. I didn't even like I didn't even
Speaker 1: want my car anymore like it was.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 1: It was like crazy, you know, And he cleaned out
Speaker 1: my whole car for me. He was taking care of me,
Speaker 1: he was he was picking up my meds.
Speaker 2: Like, because how did you meet him?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 1: I real p Yeah, prior to it, we were just talking.
Speaker 1: But that was like my favorite one out of all
Speaker 1: of them. I like your style. Okay, I get that.
Speaker 1: I get shout out, shout out to that we gotta
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: What I can say is he he.
Speaker 1: He did pull me up out of a dark spot,
Speaker 1: but then he put my ass back in it. Once
Speaker 1: I once I finally like started to like him, that's
Speaker 1: when he started.
Speaker 2: To become different.
Speaker 1: I started back doing like my my covers, which I
Speaker 1: was going viral again, and he didn't like that. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they only like you because they want
Speaker 1: to have sex with you, because it was yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I can actually rap, you know.
Speaker 1: Then I started going to the studio and making songs
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't. I don't want you to
Speaker 1: put this out because I don't want them hearing you
Speaker 1: rap like this. That's embarrassing to me. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: this is music. Every time he would he would get
Speaker 1: got cheatd on me, I drop a song and go viral.
Speaker 1: Get every time get got cheating on me, your song
Speaker 1: would go viral. No, so I wouldn't really drop music
Speaker 1: or post pictures or get cute because he would he
Speaker 1: would get mad, and I didn't want to make it
Speaker 1: mad because I was so.
Speaker 2: In love, you know, but it it was a trauma. Vind.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm in therapy, you know, I can I
Speaker 1: can actually look back and say, Hey, that was this,
Speaker 1: Hey that was that.
Speaker 2: You know, there was a trauma, Vind, you know.
Speaker 1: And can you explain what a trauma bond is for
Speaker 1: people that don't know? When you go through something and
Speaker 1: you isolate yourself, you if there's someone there, you would
Speaker 1: you would attach yourself to them, and it would be
Speaker 1: a horrible bond because once you over that trauma and
Speaker 1: they start to show you who they are or if
Speaker 1: they want to.
Speaker 2: Leave you, you go.
Speaker 1: Back through the trauma, like and it's and it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a soul tie, Like it's hard to get
Speaker 1: away from that person. Like it's hard you think that
Speaker 1: that's all that you have, Like you don't you don't
Speaker 1: know how to let them go, no matter what they
Speaker 1: do to you, no matter how bad they treat you
Speaker 1: don't know how to let them go. And you only
Speaker 1: bond with them through a through a traumatic experience in
Speaker 1: your life, you know. And Yeah, So every time I
Speaker 1: would catch him cheating because I wouldn't drop music, I
Speaker 1: want post pictures, wouldn't do nothing because he would always
Speaker 1: have a problem with me doing something. I drop a
Speaker 1: song that he didn't want me to drop, so Ratchet
Speaker 1: Turk Sauce started going crazy and he was like, they
Speaker 1: only like the song because you're talking.
Speaker 2: About it was it was a raunchy song. I'm sying
Speaker 2: AI cool.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, because you're talking about shaking ass.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, they like the song because the
Speaker 1: song is good what you're talking about, you know. And
Speaker 1: every time that I would get bookings, he would come
Speaker 1: out of town with me.
Speaker 2: Just to ruin my fucking bookings.
Speaker 1: Oh god, like he would think that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: talk to the promoters and so that we you. Meanwhile
Speaker 1: he does his cheating. Yes, that's so. I was like
Speaker 1: ninety eight pounds, like so small I was. I was
Speaker 1: so fragile, but I was. And every time and he'll
Speaker 1: cheat on me, I go out to go fight the girl.
Speaker 1: So I'm so I'm back in what I fought so
Speaker 1: hard to get away from. And yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Sucks and I and I didn't know how to break it.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't close to my family so I couldn't
Speaker 1: run to them and say, hey, I'm going through this, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening.
Speaker 2: To me, so I had to sit in it again.
Speaker 1: And at this time I lived with my grandmother, so
Speaker 1: like I would be so meaning like last shot, but
Speaker 1: she didn't understand, like what was going on, Like I
Speaker 1: was really hurting, you know, And oh, it happens a
Speaker 1: lot on this show, Believe or not. You want to
Speaker 1: get a.
Speaker 2: It's a safe space. Coult this burt out. I don't cry.
Speaker 1: It's good crying. Crying price healing it is.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm finna cheap back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get outside because me staying in his house
Speaker 1: being stressed and oppressed about a man that in mind,
Speaker 1: I can't keep doing it and I'm not getting nowhere.
Speaker 1: So I so I kept dropping music, I started going out.
Speaker 1: He hated it like it was. It was like when
Speaker 1: a narcissistic a narcissistic psychopath lose control control, they go crazy.
Speaker 2: I never knew what he was called until now.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you've been doing your Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what from the second walked in. You had this beautiful
Speaker 1: glow about you. But everything from like I said, the
Speaker 1: broker of the dish, the better the story its.
Speaker 2: So how did you end up get away? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I started dating other people and like I will tell them,
Speaker 1: like I might leave you alone when he want.
Speaker 2: To come back.
Speaker 1: And I met I met this girl, and I would
Speaker 1: leave everybody alone for him. But I couldn't leave her alone.
Speaker 1: And I started talking to her and she became a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: And I left him alone.
Speaker 1: And then that's when I ran into this conflict because
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, how do you wrap up men,
Speaker 1: but you have a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you ya act like I'm gay. You act
Speaker 2: like I only like women, you know, and either way
Speaker 2: or go.
Speaker 1: I still went up, Literally like, I still went up.
Speaker 1: And at one point time I used to want to
Speaker 1: like hide that I liked women, because I'm like, what
Speaker 1: if they just judged me off the fact that I
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend. They might say, oh, it's capping your
Speaker 1: wrap because you have a girlfriend, which you wrap by man.
Speaker 1: It's like I've had white friends.
Speaker 2: I like men. I don't only like women.
Speaker 1: You know, was that your first girlfriend?
Speaker 2: No, I was actually in the closet back in the day.
Speaker 2: I was in the closet. You know, even if you
Speaker 2: would have opened it, you bout.
Speaker 1: What, but you would be considered that would be bisexual?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know at first, I used to identify its pans
Speaker 1: sexual because I don't have a type, you know. I
Speaker 1: love is love to me, really, yes, love is love.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a type. But it was
Speaker 1: you don't have a type at all. No, okay, you don't.
Speaker 1: And it was like like that that became the main
Speaker 1: focus of me.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, god, damn, I I'm by sexual. What
Speaker 2: you like? Come on now?
Speaker 1: Because I that that would be the main focus.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I make great music. That's it. I
Speaker 2: make great music.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't it shouldn't matter who i'm you know, but
Speaker 1: sometimes they matter in this game, you know. And every
Speaker 1: time that I came with it here, it was like
Speaker 1: it didn't matter.
Speaker 2: It didn't matter what I was doing, who I was with,
Speaker 2: to who.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter to who. It didn't it didn't matter
Speaker 1: to the masses. Because when I made Snatched, I had
Speaker 1: a girlfriend. When I made Pretty Girls Walk, I had
Speaker 1: a girlfriend heavy out Outside. So so Outside is the
Speaker 1: song that really got me noticed by the labels.
Speaker 2: And it was about about a man.
Speaker 1: I was like, break that bitch, but you know, and
Speaker 1: it was going crazy and I had a girlfriend saying
Speaker 1: break daddy, like like I had a girlfriend, but you know,
Speaker 1: still it went crazy.
Speaker 2: It didn't matter who who I laid with, you know.
Speaker 1: And at that time, like that is when I found
Speaker 1: the caneralization. Is like, I'm not going to have I'm me.
Speaker 1: I make dope bass music. You know I could do her,
Speaker 1: I do concent. I'm pretty come on it, you know.
Speaker 1: So I started living with my truth in and felt great.
Speaker 1: I signed to Republic Records. This is doing COVID twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: When did the ex end up coming coming around again?
Speaker 1: Or did he?
Speaker 2: He would start writing me periodically. Once I go up
Speaker 2: on media, he would like be like, oh, I always
Speaker 2: knew he was gonna make it.
Speaker 1: I miss you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, can you
Speaker 1: try again?
Speaker 2: No, sir?
Speaker 1: Like no, sirn So, I knew that my CD gave
Speaker 1: me everything that they could. So I moved to lant
Speaker 1: So as I signed, I went to I'm from Saint Louis, Okay.
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Okay. So I moved to Atlanta and and
Speaker 1: I've been here since and it's only been up for her.
Speaker 1: And you've been by yourself in Atlanta. You moved by yourself.
Speaker 2: No, I actually moved with us with a significant other.
Speaker 1: But are you and the girls still together? Is it
Speaker 1: like love story?
Speaker 2: I'm by myself.
Speaker 1: Oh you moved okay, but now you're single okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and now I'm big bossed the Wow. What are some
Speaker 1: of the things that you would say if you had
Speaker 1: to look back, some of the things that you wish
Speaker 1: you could have avoided?
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like some of your stories.
Speaker 2: I do feel like that.
Speaker 1: I like beinginess though that I didn't have guidance or
Speaker 1: I didn't have someone who knew whatever doing. I had
Speaker 1: to go through everything that I went through because if
Speaker 1: I didn't do it, then I'll be going through it now.
Speaker 1: And I learned like early on, so they took everything
Speaker 1: when I had nothing to take, and now that I
Speaker 1: have everything to lose, oh, I won't do now. I
Speaker 1: can read contracts, front was backwards naked clothes. However you
Speaker 1: give it to me, I'm going to read it. Then
Speaker 1: I'm going to send to my lawyer. I can manage
Speaker 1: my money. I know how to do things by myself,
Speaker 1: like like like I can go places by myself, I
Speaker 1: can book flights, I can book like back in the day,
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to book a flight, book a rental,
Speaker 1: payper id.
Speaker 2: I know how to do nothing. I just knew how
Speaker 2: to just I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you learned those skill sets after
Speaker 1: you move to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Or before before?
Speaker 1: Like I like I learned them when I was trying
Speaker 1: to break during COVID, like like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: That was that was when I started to learn how
Speaker 1: to really be an adult and pay bills and that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like back in the day, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to do anything, and I wasn't surrounded
Speaker 1: by good people that can help me. You know, what
Speaker 1: does your family think about your growth? Now?
Speaker 4: I feel like your family seems to be very hidden
Speaker 4: in your story, like they You're definitely like the roads that.
Speaker 1: From Caer Right back in the day, we really wasn't close,
Speaker 1: like we like, we really wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was lashing out and needing help, and they didn't
Speaker 1: know how to help me. And most of our household
Speaker 1: households don't don't say hey, let me get my key help.
Speaker 1: They don't say that, you know, So yeah, I just
Speaker 1: had to sit in my pit. You know what made
Speaker 1: you pick up the phone and choose therapy. I actually
Speaker 1: just started going to therapy. Like last year toxic I was.
Speaker 1: I was toxic, very toxic, and I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to control my emotions.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to effectively communicate in overstimulating situations.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I would just be like, oh no, I would just
Speaker 2: lash out and get physical.
Speaker 1: It's like it was either but how did you know?
Speaker 1: Or like where was that indicator where you felt like
Speaker 1: it was a problem and you needed to pivot into
Speaker 1: a better solution, Like what was that point where you
Speaker 1: were like, I don't I don't want to fight anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the source of.
Speaker 4: What was that pivotal point, Because there's usually a breaking
Speaker 4: point right where you're just like, fucking I need help.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: I started losing myself within the industry, like I felt
Speaker 1: like I felt like that I was overlooked. I felt unheard.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know how to celebrate the
Speaker 1: winds out I was actually having, Like I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't see it because I was working so hard.
Speaker 2: It was like.
Speaker 4: Sometimes when people are striving for a milestone, especially what
Speaker 4: I noticed was successful people to doing this show is
Speaker 4: like you hit a milestone and you keep moving, you know,
Speaker 4: you keep moving the ceiling a little bit higher and higher.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like you were that that was kind
Speaker 4: of happening where you just kept moving the gold post.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like that. They I'm like, oh gosh.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, like I was, I
Speaker 1: was working, and then I was like I didn't I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I don't know. I really
Speaker 1: don't even know how to put in the words. I
Speaker 1: just felt like I was working so hard and it
Speaker 1: was taking so long to break and I was just
Speaker 1: like no, like this is and then like and instead
Speaker 1: of just doing things, I was overthinking everything.
Speaker 2: So it was putting me in my mind, putting me
Speaker 2: in my head, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't keep I can't keep sparkling,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't keep going like this and this.
Speaker 1: My team was telling me like that, like you're doing good,
Speaker 1: like cut out. So when I went to therapy, it
Speaker 1: was like and I wasn't only losing myself within the industry,
Speaker 1: I was losing myself at home, friends, family, Like I
Speaker 1: was lashing out again, and I was like, therapy, I
Speaker 1: need you, Like I don't I don't know. Was it
Speaker 1: like when you say you were lashing out. Was there
Speaker 1: like you would lash out and then you feel guilty.
Speaker 4: Afterwards or something, because sometimes when you see someone that's tough,
Speaker 4: you think, oh man, they're tough.
Speaker 1: They're almost like fearless, right there hasn't It's something that
Speaker 1: was indicating, like, hey, I don't like this. Were you
Speaker 1: feeling bad after lashing out or I was feeling bad?
Speaker 1: And then my team was like telling me like, this
Speaker 1: is not you. Like I don't know what's going on,
Speaker 1: but this not you, you know, And I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to how to express myself or say what I
Speaker 1: was feeling. I didn't know how to effectively communicate, and
Speaker 1: I started to isolate. I didn't want to do things.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just like I started to become very evil and
Speaker 1: it was just like no, I just rather not do anything,
Speaker 1: and I'm like something got to give. And then I
Speaker 1: was in a relationship, so you know, my sniff other
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you you you are being mean to
Speaker 1: me and it's not fur of me. You know, this
Speaker 1: ain't my fault. I'm not doing anything to you. And
Speaker 1: I started to feel guilty because I'm like you're right,
Speaker 1: it ain't your fault. It ain't your fault. You know
Speaker 1: that I'm feeling this way. So I started going to
Speaker 1: trap you. And also it was it was still like
Speaker 1: I was enabled within a relationship. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to stand alone either. Like the relationship that I
Speaker 1: was in, I was cold dependent on it, you know.
Speaker 1: So that was another thing, Like I was just stressed,
Speaker 1: you know, I was going through it.
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, because you went from like
Speaker 4: trauma bond to like another Yeah, it was like a
Speaker 4: band aid over some of that probably could have deserved
Speaker 4: like some.
Speaker 1: Time king and I didn't. I didn't know that back then,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I was just like I was an
Speaker 1: all a part. I guess it was just like go
Speaker 1: keep just just just keep going, just keep moving. How
Speaker 1: tired are you with your mom and all of this?
Speaker 1: That's my bestie now, that's your bestie now, Like but
Speaker 1: back then would you back then? No, like we were,
Speaker 1: I was, I don't know, like I like I think
Speaker 1: I was the problem child, Like I was the only
Speaker 1: kid that would go up against her, you know, like
Speaker 1: I'd be like I'm not doing that, Like no, you know,
Speaker 1: I would always question everything or like I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like sometimes households need therapy before they
Speaker 1: bring kids into the world because.
Speaker 2: You you would.
Speaker 1: Do your best, but sometimes your best is still not okay.
Speaker 2: And every every.
Speaker 1: Every one of my siblings experienced with my with my
Speaker 1: parents is different, you know, because it was just different.
Speaker 1: But I do know that she did the best that
Speaker 1: she could, you know, And I do know like sometimes
Speaker 1: that no, they don't understand. But me and my grandmother,
Speaker 1: you know, we've always been close. That was like who
Speaker 1: I was, who I would run to. And to be
Speaker 1: completely honest, if I can remember correctly, when I was
Speaker 1: in high school, it was like one day I was
Speaker 1: acting out really bad and they and they called my
Speaker 1: grandmother instead of my mother. But at this point I
Speaker 1: was just like so off the rails. It was like,
Speaker 1: couldn't nobody talk to me. My grandmother came to like
Speaker 1: pick me up from school and took me to this
Speaker 1: office to where we were talking to some man I
Speaker 1: don't really remember if he was.
Speaker 2: A therapist, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He was talking to him and he was just basically like,
Speaker 1: I can't force her to talk to me.
Speaker 2: That's what I remember.
Speaker 1: He said, I can't force her to talk to me,
Speaker 1: and after that it was just like uh from her
Speaker 1: and tried again.
Speaker 2: So maybe my grandmother didn't Maybe she did.
Speaker 1: Try, she tried. Oh wow. Okay, So now you have
Speaker 1: these accolades in your family's one hundred percent supportive, there
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent supportive.
Speaker 4: And you're in therapy and you're single. Are you gonna
Speaker 4: try and maintain your singleness for a bit?
Speaker 2: Or I flow with life?
Speaker 1: You're funny?
Speaker 4: Well okay, Well then I'm gonna ask this other thing
Speaker 4: because I had learned this lesson a couple of years
Speaker 4: ago from a neighbor of mine. But now that you
Speaker 4: have so much more to lose because of everything you've accomplished. Now,
Speaker 4: when you are challenged in the position of lashing out
Speaker 4: or anger or fighting, do you now calculate that the
Speaker 4: person that you're going up against may not have anything
Speaker 4: to lose?
Speaker 2: Yes? And no.
Speaker 1: Yes, if I'm calm, you know, like I would try
Speaker 1: to remove myself from any situation that I know may
Speaker 1: bring me back to the owe me because I don't
Speaker 1: know what she's capable of, and I know that if
Speaker 1: I see red it's like rid, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know how to I don't know how to
Speaker 1: calm down, so I don't need myself in that situation
Speaker 1: too s red.
Speaker 2: So it's like I feel you.
Speaker 1: My neighbor told me this story once about like you
Speaker 1: just always got to consider that the other person has
Speaker 1: nothing to lose. So if the other person has nothing
Speaker 1: to lose, and you gain the possibility to lose something,
Speaker 1: then if you go and knowing like, hey, that person
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lose their house, they ain't gonna lose their career,
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna lose whatever, then it reduces the like
Speaker 1: do you really want to fight someone that has nothing
Speaker 1: to The worst person in the world to fight is
Speaker 1: the person has nothing to lose because they're gonna help
Speaker 1: you lose everything. Yeah, And I'm to the point where
Speaker 1: regular people really cannot get to me. People on the
Speaker 1: internet can I get to me? Like people can't get
Speaker 1: to me. The only ones that can really hurt me
Speaker 1: is the ones that be around me, my friends, my
Speaker 1: my family. Those are the only ones that can actually
Speaker 1: bring me up out of my enement. And if I
Speaker 1: see that they trying to, I would distance myself from them.
Speaker 1: And when I talk to them again, mm hmm, like
Speaker 1: you've set up boundaries now.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, But like back in the day, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to set up boundaries, and I
Speaker 1: would be baited into arguments with them.
Speaker 2: And me and my family used to go so loved.
Speaker 1: We would we we knew each other family trauma, so
Speaker 1: we would bring it up.
Speaker 2: We would we would say it, and it'd be horrible.
Speaker 2: You know that that wouldn't be okay.
Speaker 1: But like we were so used to just treating each
Speaker 1: other like people on the street when they're beef, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like but now nah, like.
Speaker 1: Nah, I remove myself every time, and sometimes the love
Speaker 1: that I have for people, it becomes very hard to
Speaker 1: choose myself because I love them, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I would want to forget of them, and I will
Speaker 1: want to look past the things that are triggering to me.
Speaker 1: But I know for a fact that if I stay
Speaker 1: in this situation, it's it may bring me up out
Speaker 1: of my element and it may cause me to lose
Speaker 1: everything that I have and I gotta choose and I'm
Speaker 1: still learning that, but I think I'm doing great with it,
Speaker 1: though you are you are.
Speaker 4: So let's talk industry and metrics. So what's the thing
Speaker 4: in the life.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, well right now the day of life.
Speaker 1: We're trying to drop this record, right, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a nice record, it's gonna be a big record, but
Speaker 1: we're going through clarences. And if artists who's upcoming or
Speaker 1: don't know anything about clearences is like when you sample something,
Speaker 1: so say you simple a cadence or or a certain
Speaker 1: phrase or you know, any anything of that nature. Clarences
Speaker 1: are very expensive and they take so long. But something
Speaker 1: that my manager told me today that kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: stuck with me. It's like, if you believe in this record,
Speaker 1: you have to be patient, no matter what you you
Speaker 1: have to be patient, and you have to see this
Speaker 1: through because I'm not even like let's just drop something
Speaker 1: else at this point, you know, yeah, yeah, or let's
Speaker 1: just skip the Clayer. Yeah, let's yeah.
Speaker 2: But you can't do that. You gotta do everything right.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, I believe in this record,
Speaker 1: and I believe in myself, and you know, I do
Speaker 1: content for the song. I post it on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.
Speaker 1: I can't really tease my music on TikTok right now
Speaker 1: because you know, it's kind of that UMG things going
Speaker 1: on right now, So that that's the UMG. So, so
Speaker 1: TikTok and UMG have to come to terms on what
Speaker 1: they're willing to prove.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for an artist, and that's kind of hurting us artists.
Speaker 1: TikTok plays a very big part in our music going viral.
Speaker 2: Every not every but recently.
Speaker 1: When my music has been going crazy, it will start
Speaker 1: on TikTok and then it would then it would transfer
Speaker 1: to different platforms.
Speaker 2: But TikTok has always been a starter.
Speaker 1: So this is like, this is this is me going
Speaker 1: back to like the old days when I used to
Speaker 1: go viral Facebook and stuff like that. You know, now
Speaker 1: it's different because we can't use TikTok right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know how long it's going to be. But you
Speaker 1: got to stand alongside who you sound, you know what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, so that's that. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: do high content, I go to the gym. So how
Speaker 1: do you make your money right now? Currently?
Speaker 2: Shows?
Speaker 1: I have a really great team that moves me around,
Speaker 1: So I get sponsorships, my royalties, other platforms paying you
Speaker 1: at all too?
Speaker 2: No, no, not.
Speaker 1: Really, I actually don't want to get played paid, I
Speaker 1: say play. I actually don't want to get paid from
Speaker 1: platforms because part of me feel like once they start
Speaker 1: paying you, your views is kind of fall off.
Speaker 2: Really, so don't pay me nothing. Keep it, keep it please.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say that. Sometimes I get
Speaker 1: I feel some type of way when I hear like
Speaker 1: some of the content creators make like half a million
Speaker 1: dollars off social media. I'm like, damn, if they're giving
Speaker 1: you half a million, your content gotta be worth a
Speaker 1: lot more than that. Sometimes they get paid off sponsorships
Speaker 1: because brands will see how how big their platform is
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, how can we incorporate our product
Speaker 1: within your video?
Speaker 2: And that is where the big bucks come for me.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, so that's that.
Speaker 1: And therapy, because yeah, sometimes I go home and visit
Speaker 1: my family in Saint Louis. I gotta movie that on
Speaker 1: from the start filming, so I can't go back home.
Speaker 2: I go out t work on couches a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're hilarious.
Speaker 2: I watched I D Channel with my dog, and I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I take life day by day because everything right now
Speaker 1: it is new. So yeah, okay, now are you do
Speaker 1: you believe in God, Christians.
Speaker 2: I believe in that. Okay, I believe in that. Okay.
Speaker 1: So is this your first time acting for real?
Speaker 5: For real?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: And you're excited about it.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited, but I'm nervous. I'm nervous.
Speaker 1: What are you nervous? To them?
Speaker 2: What if I forget my life?
Speaker 1: Don't they have like on set readers and all that?
Speaker 1: I think? Right? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't been on set yet.
Speaker 1: Have you started memb rising all your stuff? I started?
Speaker 1: Do you you start taping this again? It's it's like
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta memorize. Yeah, yeah, I got some
Speaker 1: parts memorized. So it's like seeing with party feelings. So
Speaker 1: I can go dive into that one.
Speaker 4: You're hilarious, You're hilarious, okay, okay, So how can people
Speaker 4: keep up with you?
Speaker 1: Following me on all platforms and at Big Positive and
Speaker 1: watch my content pre save my song ice me because
Speaker 1: it is dropping.
Speaker 2: And eat ketchup sundwiches. Please don't eat catch them sounds. Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't eat them no more.
Speaker 1: Try when was the last time you ate the sandwich? Mm?
Speaker 5: Hmm?
Speaker 2: Middle school?
Speaker 1: Thank God God? And to be honest, I don't e
Speaker 1: think that I that I had to eat in middle school.
Speaker 1: I just I was craving at one time and it
Speaker 1: was just like okay, no more, I'm not doing this
Speaker 1: a yain. I feel like you're reference your house is
Speaker 1: like a condiment house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where were all these condiments coming from?
Speaker 1: You know when like sometimes you would like eat out
Speaker 1: and then you have like liftos so that or you
Speaker 1: have a drawer in your house with just catch your
Speaker 1: packets and yeah, and then like my mom would go
Speaker 1: grocery shopping from time to time, but then like I
Speaker 1: don't know if we should just eat because it was dark,
Speaker 1: like the grocery should be going like the next day
Speaker 1: you be gone, like it just be you know, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm over jags right not the next day, but
Speaker 1: it'd be going fast, and we'll be left with this
Speaker 1: condiment house again until she come home and like cook
Speaker 1: the food that we don't know how to cook. It's different.
Speaker 2: But other than that, we have to vand for ourselves.
Speaker 4: Is there any advice you would give to anybody that's
Speaker 4: trying to get in your position.
Speaker 1: As my team would say, stay in your own lane,
Speaker 1: watch your own race. If if you need therapy goes
Speaker 1: to therapy, I promise it is okay, it is fine.
Speaker 1: What's therapy? What you expected it to be? Actually? No,
Speaker 1: I thought they was gonna try to make me crazy,
Speaker 1: like it was gonna be like you're crazy. But then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, that's normal. Oh so in
Speaker 1: these situations, you know, she's she's it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a she she's a teaching me, you know, how
Speaker 1: to how to approach situations different differently? Do you now
Speaker 1: look forward to it too?
Speaker 4: Now because you have someone that you can like confidence sometimes.
Speaker 1: But then when I be doing like small toxic stuff
Speaker 1: I gotta tell her about I'd be like, I know
Speaker 1: she's gonna get in my ass, so I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to like not go.
Speaker 2: Then I'll be like I gotta go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I was gonna say, do you feel like
Speaker 1: it's a safe space though, Oh yeah, yeah, it is
Speaker 1: a safe space, like like I can I can be
Speaker 1: my authentic self like I don't I don't have to
Speaker 1: dm anything down wild in therapy, And after I'd be done,
Speaker 1: she'd be like okay, so and then she'll go in
Speaker 1: and she would dissect it and help me understand what
Speaker 1: I just explained to her, because I'll be everywhere, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, she has been pointing out
Speaker 1: things that I didn't even know, you know, about myself
Speaker 1: because because I was just sure things for her, and
Speaker 1: I'll just vent and she'd be like, okay, well let's
Speaker 1: go back to what you said here, and I'll be
Speaker 1: like okay, and something that I just brushed past. She
Speaker 1: would literally be like, no, that's actually and then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, got it. Okay, Okay, so she's she's
Speaker 1: she's teaching you a lot about yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I would also tell people to like, get you a
Speaker 1: great team, Like get you a team who knows the business,
Speaker 1: who understand it's the business, and who want to see
Speaker 1: you win no matter what. You know. Try to stay
Speaker 1: away from relationships now hurt me out there?
Speaker 2: Fun they are, you know, but.
Speaker 1: Like going through things when you're trying to build yourself
Speaker 1: and prepare for a different version of yourself in a
Speaker 1: different life, it's very hard.
Speaker 2: And some people is easy.
Speaker 1: Most of the times are all right, And I don't know,
Speaker 1: like focus on yourself, always choose yourself, know your words,
Speaker 1: and never settle. I want to touch on one last thing.
Speaker 4: So you have really beautiful tattoos, but one of them
Speaker 4: in particular really stick out, which is this never settle one.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me the story on this one. When
Speaker 1: I was with that toxic man, I used to like
Speaker 1: get tattoos when I would try to teach myself lessons
Speaker 1: because no one taught me to never settle. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was settling for him, Like I was settling
Speaker 1: because I feel like this was all that I can get.
Speaker 1: I was settling because I felt like nobody else is
Speaker 1: gonna treat me as good as he once did because
Speaker 1: he never treated me good after he showed me who
Speaker 1: he really was. It was just comfortability. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to be alone either, so that was it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was like never settle good vibes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, so you do that every time you
Speaker 1: want to, like, hey, don't forget this lesson you inc
Speaker 1: it in ink it. Okay, Well, thank you for blessing
Speaker 1: me with a ketchup sandwich to get in to know you.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time and I really appreciate your vulnerability.
Speaker 1: I really do thank you so much for your time
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