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Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear. Listening to podcast,

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Speaker 1: S T L I T E dot com. We have

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Speaker 1: a Canadian here from the Great White North. Repeat guests.

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Speaker 1: Hunter chef Michael Hunter in from Toronto. How's it going, man,

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Speaker 1: it's going well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: One word answer. Are you excited that we're gonna maybe

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Speaker 1: invade your country?

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Speaker 3: Oh? That's such a hard one.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I'm gonna piss off a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of people, can't, not one word.

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Speaker 2: No, no.

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Speaker 4: Any tips for a country wanting to invade Canada.

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Speaker 1: Should we hit from the east end? Should we come in?

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Speaker 1: Is non existent compared to the American military. So it's

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Speaker 1: not a marine landing up in the maritime provinces, just

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Speaker 1: coming right up through the plane faceted approach would probably

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Speaker 1: hit him where it hit them all over overwhelm them.

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Speaker 1: And I think, Uh, in Red Dawn, didn't the Ruskies

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Speaker 1: hit us down through the planes coming down through you?

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Speaker 4: Why did you guys stop them in Red don.

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Speaker 1: I never thought of that. You guys just let of

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Speaker 1: Red Down is the place to go to brush up

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Speaker 1: on your history.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the movie Red don.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's been so long, and I don't. I

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Speaker 2: have this wonderful ability to forget movies.

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Speaker 1: Well, they just kind of say that they came down through,

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Speaker 1: but there was no mention to like a heroic resistance.

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Speaker 4: I saw August de have keep mine as we.

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Speaker 1: Prepared, as we prepared a hitch. You guys hard. You

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Speaker 1: don't have like a little maginal line or anything built

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Speaker 2: No, no, Uh.

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Speaker 4: He's got a new book out. We're going to talk

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Speaker 4: about his new book.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about his background that I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that he he This is the only person I've

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Speaker 4: To someone that was on a fox Hunt.

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Speaker 2: was you know, he probably had like thirty hounds out

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Speaker 2: No, like there's no no one's got a firearm, you know,

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Speaker 2: But most of the hunts would you know, wind up.

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Speaker 2: We'd get on a chase right around for a few hours.

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Speaker 1: They'd call it a breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, no, I was just I was saying it

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Speaker 1: But isn't it funny that that that type of hunting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I know, And in England they

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can check out the tattoo on his arm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the turkey, Well, the turkey wing there you go. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the tip of mine. Well, if I got a tattooh,

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Speaker 1: is their day. I was making a comment that I

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Speaker 1: someone should get it. I was making a comment about

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Speaker 1: them cutting this. This applies to both of us because

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Speaker 1: we share the Great Lakes, are two great nations. Them

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Speaker 1: cutting all kinds of positions that work on lamp ray

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Speaker 2: I saw that, yeah, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: I was saying that the guy's making those cuts wouldn't

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Speaker 3: I don't want it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want that tattoo, but it would be a

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Speaker 1: sweet tattoo. I mean, gnarly where on chester Chester already

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Speaker 1: He already has a scroll.

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Speaker 1: Chester already has a scroll.

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Speaker 4: Just what does he think? It is a salmon fly?

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Speaker 6: It's a fishing hook, right.

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Speaker 1: He's got to scroll them. I'm gonna put some little

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna we're gonna have to like put him under

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Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna tattoo a lamprey latched onto it.

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Speaker 3: Going. I thought you might tattoo the lamprey onto someone's.

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Speaker 1: So much better going to see that tattoo. But if

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Speaker 7: Feel like that's sing right now, is having a tattoo

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Speaker 6: Yeah, somebody who's listening may go get it and then

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Speaker 6: email the Meat Eater or radio at the Meat Eater

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Speaker 6: podcast and we can cover that off in tattoos. I regret.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because that dude that got Hugh Glass

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Speaker 6: I think it's great the shading and listen.

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Speaker 1: To people tore that got a new one. I felt

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Speaker 1: bad for the sun again, terrible for him. We got

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Speaker 4: Here, here's the here's the deal man, Phil.

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Speaker 1: I wish we had like a like a rant theme song,

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Speaker 1: but you used heavy metal on Cow's.

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Speaker 3: Rant I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can do something more confessional.

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Speaker 6: There are plenty of metal options.

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Speaker 1: Can you do something like to Seeger, like something maybe

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Speaker 1: Because look, I mean the end of night Moves when

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Speaker 2: Moves to you.

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Speaker 3: I remember a Night Moves rant from years ago, but

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Speaker 3: you can do it again. It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: People think that night. Here's what Night Moves is about.

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Speaker 1: You've explained this to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we all know I'm not explaining it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little more contemplative.

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Speaker 1: After that, after we recorded that before it aired, we

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Speaker 1: is our noxious species there. They're an invasive exotic. They're

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't know a lamprey, I feels latch to his scrotum. Uh,

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Speaker 1: isn't productive like it's it's it's it's not saving money, right,

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Speaker 1: employees and many of our public lands are going to

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Speaker 1: get punished for something they shouldn't involve that shouldn't involve them.

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Speaker 1: I also know that even if DOGE gets everything they want,

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Speaker 1: they still won't even come close to making up for

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Speaker 1: the additional expenses that Trump's economic policies promised to add

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Speaker 1: to the national debt.

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Speaker 4: And we've gotten a million of these letters.

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Speaker 1: I was there day talking to I was there day

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Speaker 1: talking to a federal researcher who works on salmon projects

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Speaker 1: in Alaska. So here you have in Alaska, like salmon

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Speaker 1: is a huge part of the economy. Remember earlier I

451
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Speaker 1: was talking about with wildlife like like fisheries in the

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Speaker 1: Great Lakes. Fisheries in the Great Lakes have a small

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Speaker 1: commercial commercial component and a huge small com commercial keeps

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Speaker 1: saying commercional, small commercial component, huge recreational component in Alaska,

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Speaker 1: like if you take the commercial impact of salmon, it's enormous,

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Speaker 1: and then there's recreational and then they have a third

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Speaker 1: category of management strategy, Like Alaska fishing game looks at

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Speaker 1: sort of three things when they look at allocation of

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Speaker 1: a resource. Top of the pile. First consideration for Alaska's

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Speaker 1: subsistence meaning if you look, they break out, They break

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Speaker 1: out people that are that are going to extract wildlife

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Speaker 1: resources and put them into three buckets. Assistance sits on top,

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Speaker 1: subsistence priorities. Subsistence takes priority, meaning people in remote Alaska

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Speaker 1: who rely on fishing game resources as their protein source.

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Speaker 1: Subsistence is top. Then comes commercial recreational. They're tiered out right,

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Speaker 1: and there's always like a little bit of fighting between them.

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Speaker 1: But here salmon drive all three layers of the stack.

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Speaker 1: Salmon drives subsistence life ways for many, many people along

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Speaker 1: river systems and along the coast. It's like the primary

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Speaker 1: protein source. Huge in terms of commercial fishery, huge in

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Speaker 1: terms of recreational fishery. Of paramount importance. So these geniuses

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Speaker 1: that are gutting conservation spending have gone in and you

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Speaker 1: keep staff in place, but you freeze their credit cards.

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Speaker 1: That's like the move right now, you put a dollar

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Speaker 1: limit on credit cards. So you have people that are

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Speaker 1: gearing up right now during the salmon runs to begin

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Speaker 1: in all their work monitoring salmon runs, describing salmon runs,

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Speaker 1: habitat improvements right and you say, oh, no, we're still

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Speaker 1: gonna pay you. Your credit cards are frozen, so you

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Speaker 1: can't do any of your work. That seems like a

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Speaker 1: great way to save money. They'd be like if at

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Speaker 1: this company I came in and said no, no, no, everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm freezing your credit cards. But you're like, but today,

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Speaker 1: because I'm already getting paid a salary, I was gonna

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Speaker 1: spend a few bucks to drive down the road to

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Speaker 1: do my work. No, no, don't do that. Just sit tight.

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Speaker 1: We're saving money. Really you're not.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're not.

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Speaker 1: Oh I was getting back into like not voting for

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Speaker 1: major part Oh yeah, I said, not voting for major

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Speaker 1: party can because they always bone you. They always bone you,

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Speaker 1: And I've never voted for Like talking about voting, I've

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Speaker 1: never voted for into a third party that I actually liked.

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Speaker 1: I just vote for third parties in order to embolden

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Speaker 1: third party prospects. See how far that's, how good that's

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Speaker 1: gone in the last sixteen years. Like Ross pro no

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Speaker 1: one's top Ross pro Right, he's the prime example, I think.

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Speaker 1: So you can see how effective my campaign is. Clearly

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Speaker 1: we got third party candidate's coming through the roof. It's

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Speaker 1: not working. My plan to embolden my my one man's

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Speaker 1: plan to uh, my one man's plan to embold in

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Speaker 1: and prop up third party options in America is failing.

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Speaker 3: Is this leading the news cycle in Canada to or

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Speaker 3: is it? Is it? Where is it Land?

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Speaker 2: I definitely, we definitely hear a lot about American politics,

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Speaker 2: and especially now with the you know, the tariff, you know,

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Speaker 2: stuff that's going on. It's definitely more more prevalent. You know, politically,

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Speaker 2: Canada's has been more of a boring place, and you know,

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Speaker 2: since COVID, I think they're they're taking a page from

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Speaker 2: from I don't know if it's American politics or who's

511
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Speaker 2: really fueling the the divide, but there's definitely more of

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Speaker 2: a divide now between left and right and Canada that

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Speaker 2: than I remember, you know, in the last ten years,

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Speaker 2: and we do. Yeah, we do get a lot of

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Speaker 2: American news. Yeah, they can do whatever they want with

516
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Speaker 2: the tariff. I'm staying out of it. It's stupid.

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Speaker 1: It's stupid. I'm stay out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not worth even talking about.

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Speaker 1: Me and Yannie ran for president one time, and we

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Speaker 1: ran under better Hunting and Fishing, Better Hunting and Fishing

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Speaker 1: for America.

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Speaker 3: You ran in a bubble.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we.

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Speaker 1: Ran in a bubble. Uh. But my god, the only

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Speaker 1: thing I can hope I put a thing on Instagram

526
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Speaker 1: where it was like, I don't mean I never met

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Speaker 1: the kid, some kid that works in North Carolina for

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Speaker 1: the Forest Service. Uh, who's like the only biologist in

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Speaker 1: some you know, hundreds or thousands of square miles of

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Speaker 1: national forest got brought back on. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be if this is all like gonna start

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Speaker 1: making more sense and we're gonna start like reprioritizing public

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Speaker 1: lands and wildlife resources. But this, again, I think is

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Speaker 1: coming from people that just don't care, they don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think these kind of kids, these kind of

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Speaker 1: kids that are doing this like they just don't seem

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Speaker 1: to me like real hunting fishing kids, and they're dabbling

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Speaker 1: in a world that they just don't understand the implications

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Speaker 1: of it. They don't understand what's going on in the

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Speaker 1: last one hundred years in this country around wildlife conservation

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Speaker 1: and what it means economically. And to come in and

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Speaker 1: be like that, there's that they're owning the libs by

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Speaker 1: gutting and wildlife habitat, wildlife habitat protections in this country.

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Speaker 1: It's like it just doesn't make any sense. Man, what else.

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Speaker 4: We're doing in next year's calendar on old.

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Speaker 1: Trucks A certain kind of good pivot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've done this is a I'm soliciting.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: Krint even had a little note in our we had

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Speaker 1: like we have new stuff in a document and Krinn

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Speaker 1: has a little joke, make some make a joke about tariffs.

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Speaker 2: What did you have?

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Speaker 1: What did you have in mind? Krinn?

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Speaker 6: No, that's how that's how you kind of open things.

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00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I talked about US invade and Canada.

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Speaker 4: That was my joke to.

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Speaker 6: Have tariff jokes. I thought you'd be if I put

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Speaker 6: it up top, you'd have a thing off the top

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Speaker 6: of your head. We talked about this at dinner last night.

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Speaker 1: Good Tariff jokes his books going to be more expensive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, because.

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Speaker 2: We have the same publisher. There's Canadian and American Penguin Random.

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Speaker 1: House, so hopefully they'll figure out.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's going to be equal.

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Speaker 1: But I hate to say this, but your book is

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Speaker 1: beautiful and full of photographs, and I got a feeling

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Speaker 1: it ain't printed in either of our country. No, it's not,

568
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Speaker 1: because that's hard to get down. It's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things, is like, don't It's one

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Speaker 1: of those things that, Yeah, it's funny when you get

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Speaker 1: exposed to different industries. It's one of those things that

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Speaker 1: just that that America Canada to not tooled up for

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Speaker 1: in a weird way, like if a book a book

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Speaker 1: that goes into a book that winds up being like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of photographs colored in it. It's just like

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Speaker 1: we got out of the biz. Yeah, we got out

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Speaker 1: of the biz.

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Speaker 4: It's so weird.

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Speaker 1: It's like certain things like like sewing certain kinds of

580
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Speaker 1: clothes and stuff and waterproof lambs and stuff like us

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Speaker 1: like got out of the business.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of shame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what kind of trucks you're going to feature in

584
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Speaker 3: this one? I hope they are going to be trucks

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Speaker 3: that can still start and be driven.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm, yea, the parameters. Let me lay it out.

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Speaker 4: In the past, we've done we did a calendar.

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Speaker 1: The first one was U Fucked Up Old deer Stands,

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Speaker 1: and we had some of our own fucked up old

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Speaker 1: deer stand photos, and then we got we crowdsourced fucked

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Speaker 1: up old deer stand photos. Then we did fucked up

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Speaker 1: old tax Durremy again some of our own, we got

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Speaker 1: something from people, and then we.

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Speaker 5: Did took a break from that series for one year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then did fucked up old shitters, had some

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Speaker 1: of our own and had other people's old shiitters. This

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Speaker 1: year we're doing fucked Up old trucks hunting trucks.

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Speaker 4: But we want to I don't want to call. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's too many words for the calendar.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: But I think the point.

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Speaker 1: I'm not done laying it all out, all right, Just

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Speaker 1: give you a second, go ahead, hold your point. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to lay the base the base here because there's

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Speaker 1: certain things that are different I'm right here.

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Speaker 4: What's the email address.

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Speaker 5: Uh, fucked up old trucks at the medeater dot com.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the calendar is fucked up old Trucks. It's the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six calendar.

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Speaker 4: If you send it.

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal. We're partnering on this year's calendar

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Speaker 1: with UH Backcountry Hunters and Anglers. The reason we're partnering

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Speaker 1: with BHA on this year's calendar is because I think

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Speaker 1: they're not. I think it's kind of like there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of public lands fights just a brewing right now.

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Speaker 1: And as we talked about in our conservation State of

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Speaker 1: the Union conservation piece, one of the things I liked

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Speaker 1: about again, one of the things one of the things

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Speaker 1: I liked about Trump one point zero Trump's first administration

620
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Speaker 1: is they didn't he campaigned on not wanting to sell

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Speaker 1: off public lands and stay true to it. There's a

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Speaker 1: tenor shift right now. There are a bunch of public

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Speaker 1: lands fights bruined state level, federal level. It's gonna get hot.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna partner with BHA on the calendar. If

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Speaker 1: one of your photos get selected for If one of

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Speaker 1: your photos gets selected for the calendar, we're gonna send

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Speaker 1: you what do you get a five hundred dollars gift card?

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Speaker 5: I think we're doing two fifty gift card.

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Speaker 8: You'll get a free BHA membership in a swag bag.

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Speaker 1: In a swag bag, so.

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Speaker 4: We'll send you a gift card.

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Speaker 1: It's good for first light, FHF, gear, phelps, game calls, DSD, decoys.

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Speaker 3: Anything at the store.

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Speaker 1: You'll get a year long BHA membership and BHA is

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Speaker 1: putting together swag bags of other kind of goods. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And I think it's also important to note that a

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Speaker 8: portion of the sale of every calendar will be donated

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Speaker 8: to BHA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got to do it all. But for

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Speaker 1: every calendar we sell, two or three bucks will go

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Speaker 1: to directly to b h A yep. I think we're

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00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna peel like our end. We're gonna kick in a

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Speaker 1: couple and then we're gonna maybe raise the calendar another buck.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that kind of know the price is

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Speaker 1: gonna stay the same oay, So for every calendar sold,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll figure I just got we got to

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Speaker 1: talk to the eggheads. The guys are the sharp pencils.

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Speaker 1: But for every calendar sold, it will be like a

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Speaker 1: literal like calendar sold. It will be whatever, like two

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00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: or three dollars goes directly over Okay, just like direct

651
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Speaker 1: transfer over to BHA when you get the calendar. It's

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Speaker 1: fucked up well trucks, But what we mean is fucked

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Speaker 1: double hunting rigs. Now, Johanni, go ahead, I.

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Speaker 3: Sure hope these fuck that bowet hunting rigs will still

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Speaker 3: start and be able to be Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 7: We don't want twelve photos of just burning like burned

657
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 7: up hulk.

658
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: You do you have to pick all those burning? What

659
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

660
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: I just think, like I'm reading about the Battle of Manila.

661
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 7: We're looking for something with character, not just that it's

662
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 7: been really fucked up.

663
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 6: It's like in terms of like mold and rod and

664
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 6: old blood and like fish skins.

665
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're looking for. But here's the deal.

666
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Have you ever thumbed through one of the calendars. Yeah, okay,

667
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: it's great breadth. Yeah, and shitters and shitters. We had

668
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: a poorly built shitter that the wind had blown down

669
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: into a gullie okay, And then we had a shipter

670
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: that someone had carved out of a giant He was some.

671
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 8: Kind of seedar carved a.

672
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Gnome shitter out of a giant seedar with a chainsaw

673
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: where you actually walked into a hollow tree so you

674
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: can have a It's not like it's gonna be Yeah,

675
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: it's not like people are gonna buy the calendar. It's

676
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna be twelve burned up trucks.

677
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, like in the event, in the in

678
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 7: the event that a guy has like an old hunting

679
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 7: rig that the doors have fallen off and the floors

680
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 7: rusted out, but he also has a photo of a

681
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 7: truck that he wrapped around a telephone pole, We're looking

682
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 7: for the former rather than the ladder, right, Like we

683
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 7: want character in the in the fucked up in there.

684
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: But you're you're you're thinking that you're thinking that your

685
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: average dude out there can go out and go left

686
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: and find a burned out, fucked up old hunting trick

687
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: and then go right.

688
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: It's like, how many do they have access to?

689
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: I would think I'm just saying we don't want just

690
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: just to pretty much watch your use of wee.

691
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 7: I I am only suggesting that we're not looking for

692
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 7: fucked up as a measure of and how bad of

693
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 7: shape it's in.

694
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: It's it's got to have some. You can walk down to.

695
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: The junkyard by the airport you find twenty fucked up

696
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: old trucks. Like he's more than that.

697
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but everybody knows what we mean.

698
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't. I think you should just okay,

699
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: in your mind, just paint me a picture.

700
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all.

701
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: Fucked up old hunting rig that you would be like,

702
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: that's a good one. I'm gonna put that one in February.

703
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna post one the Ateria. Yeah, the suburban cut

704
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: off some Sfari truck.

705
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: I ain't fucked up, Brad.

706
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Last time I was down there, it is, you know,

707
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: I told Brad last time down there, I said, like, Brad,

708
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: one of two things needs to happen. You need to

709
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: fix the power steering box on this or widen the road.

710
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: He's like, funny you mention that, think about widening the road. Uh, yes,

711
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: it is, That's what I'm talking about. But here's the thing.

712
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: If you go look at fucked up old deer stands,

713
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: it's like thumb through fucked up old deer stands. Is

714
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: it a twelve photos of crumpled up ladders? No, I've

715
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: just been through house.

716
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 7: I'm just I don't think it's a deviation from what

717
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 7: we've done in the past. I'm just trying to give

718
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 7: people a sense of if they're not familiar with the series.

719
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: What kind of idiots do you think you're listening?

720
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I take back everything that I've said. Could be your truck, Yeah,

721
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: it could be your truck.

722
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm just Steve, you've done an impression of many of

723
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: your your loyal listeners. I think it sounds something.

724
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: Like they're they're out there.

725
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, now, that's the noise for people I

726
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: don't agree with.

727
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we're looking for odd yes, and I feel okay.

728
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: But that's not the calendar series. It's not odd old trucks.

729
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. And so I think we have a

730
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: little bit of old trucks.

731
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: Anyone wants that calendar you like to have.

732
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: You know, friction at times, and I think we have

733
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: a little bit of friction between the title and what

734
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 3: we're actually looking I don't.

735
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 8: Think so we know a thousand different photos and we're gonna.

736
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: Pick the cool one like i'd like, I'd like a

737
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: hunting Are you guys even talking about me and Brody's project? Yeah,

738
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: this year's calendar. Where's your give me your calendar? Bona Fiji.

739
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 7: I think I had a couple rather clever captions in calendar.

740
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: We do captions cool, we do cations for sucked up

741
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: old trucks.

742
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: Guess who ain't coming.

743
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm pointing at them not invited. Ouch, But I love

744
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: it so much.

745
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: If you just.

746
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 7: Trying to correct anything you've said, I was just trying

747
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 7: to add some add some some guidelines. You know, if

748
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 7: you have a truck that the driver's seats ripped out

749
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 7: and you have to sit on a milk crate or something,

750
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 7: right now, you're just you's a lensky.

751
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: If you want to come to this Calendars Fucked Up

752
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: Old Trucks meeting, you apologize and thank me. Thank me.

753
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: I will not.

754
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: No, I do want Randam to come to the meeting.

755
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: You still.

756
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 6: I appreciate that parameters on people from just like vomiting

757
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 6: into our email.

758
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: Take a bajillion hours, Let me.

759
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: Take let me, let me.

760
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: We want it to be. You want it to be

761
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: fucked up in an interesting way? Just not all right?

762
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: I take it back.

763
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 4: No, I understand. Go on, then I'll retort that No, that's.

764
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 7: That's all I was just I was just trying to

765
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 7: suggest that, like, the more interesting it is as a

766
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 7: fucked up thing, the more likely it is to end

767
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 7: up in the calendar, not just your average like.

768
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: I I rest my.

769
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 6: Case, add that to the list of things that Steve

770
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 6: feels very passionate about his calendar.

771
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Okay, please, you're making you're you're a solution looking for

772
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: a problem. We have never had a problem with our

773
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: audience understanding what we mean when we say fucked up

774
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: old taxidermy, Like when we did fucked up old tax Durmy,

775
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: go look through the calendar. Is it burned up taxidermy?

776
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: There was some charred tax jermy. I believe in that.

777
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: You're right a little bit, and there was a shiitter

778
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: that had burned up.

779
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

780
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: Have at it.

781
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: But you're you're acting like you're acting like people don't

782
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: understand what we mean when we say a fucked up

783
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: old truck, and you're like, you're you're you're infantilizing them,

784
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: and you're what's that there's another word like that, you're

785
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: patronizing them and infantalizing them, as though they don't know

786
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: a fucked up old truck when they see one.

787
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: Well, trucks are a dime a dozen. There's so many

788
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: trucks out there.

789
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to be more.

790
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 3: I'm with Randall.

791
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: I got here, I gotta I gotta wait to put

792
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: numbers around it. Yeah, we'll put numbers around it. I'll bet.

793
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: I'll bet you right now one hundred.

794
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: Dollars as we sit right now, where we're sitting right now.

795
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 6: Last time you bet with me, you didn't pay up?

796
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: What your money?

797
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

798
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: For?

799
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: What for?

800
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 6: When we were talking about the Arizona thing? In what

801
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 6: episode we mentioned the whole Arizona State big game raffles?

802
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: And who was right?

803
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 6: I was, of course?

804
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: How much did I bet you?

805
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: It was like five dollars.

806
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: I'll pay you.

807
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 6: I don't need it, don't worry.

808
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I want a thousand dollars bet against

809
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: Giannis and forgave him. I want a thousand dollars bet

810
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: against my sister in law Karna and forgave her.

811
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: I better.

812
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: At one point in time, I better that in ten

813
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: years pebble mine. It was like my best was that

814
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: pebble mind, and it was a ten year window. I

815
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: was like, in a decade, pebble mind will not be

816
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: developed and I won and forgave her the thousand dollars.

817
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 6: I'm forgiving giving you.

818
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: No, No, here's the bet. Here's the bet. Me and

819
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: Rander bet one hundred bucks. We got a witness, and

820
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: here's the bet. And I don't know, we'll have to

821
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: put it to Seth to figure out. I bet you

822
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: that of all the submissions, fifty percent will demonstrate what

823
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: I understand to be people's understanding of what is a

824
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: fucked up old truck. A minimum of fifty percent will

825
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: be like, well look, it'll be like it'll be you'll

826
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: put a picture up, it'll be like gets it, doesn't

827
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: get it.

828
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 7: But what you're saying there is that my guidance and

829
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 7: further clarification would in fact have been needed for one

830
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 7: out of every two listeners, because fifty percent would not

831
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 7: be in line with what you think of as a

832
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 7: fucktible truety.

833
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 4: What percent make the calendar? What percent of submissions make

834
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: the calendar?

835
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Less than one? Probably we less than one.

836
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm.

837
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: Just trying to be helpful.

838
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 5: Going back to my point, we'll get a lot of really.

839
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 8: Cool photos, we'll pick the coolest one still end up

840
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 8: in the calendar period.

841
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're talking about doing this too. Is we're

842
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: talking about building a voting function. Yeah, we're going to

843
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: do that.

844
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: We're gonna build a voting function where I don't know

845
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 4: how it's going to work.

846
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 8: Well, we'll say we get a thousand it'll be more probably,

847
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 8: but let's say we get a thousand submissions. We'll have

848
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 8: a website. We'll select one hundred of those, put them

849
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 8: on the website, and people will vote and the top

850
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 8: say ten will end up in the calendar.

851
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we need to Here's the thing is, like,

852
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, here's like a complication with with with democracy

853
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: is we're like, what if we do the whole vote thing,

854
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: but there's some that we just like too much and

855
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: they don't make it.

856
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: That's why we're gonna peel off.

857
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, checks and balances, Yeah, we're gonna peel off. Then

858
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna buy executive order. By executive order, we're gonna.

859
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: Birthday months, like you'll have February.

860
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 7: In the time that we've now discussed this, someone could

861
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 7: have gone to a dealership, driven off the lot with

862
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 7: a nice new truck and turned it into a fucked

863
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 7: up old hunting truck.

864
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

865
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 8: Number five, I'm gonna add one more thing. This doesn't

866
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 8: guarantee you're gonna get in the calendar. But if you've

867
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 8: got a sweet photo of your fucked up old hunting

868
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 8: rig on public land, that's even better.

869
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you just say it was so yeah, game on,

870
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: game on, fuck uple trucks. Uh. Not very far into

871
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: our document, you know.

872
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: I just suggested to Phil that when we edit this,

873
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 6: we play the fast forward sound effects, so it's like,

874
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 6: you know, fucked up old truck, fucked up trucks. No argument,

875
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 6: so we can get through this.

876
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 3: But I guess no, we're getting this is my favorite

877
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: episode in a while, keeping going.

878
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: So here's the next thing we're gonna talk about. Has

879
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: Yanni researched what his part of Wisconsin that he's deforesting

880
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: looked like pre contact?

881
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: I am researching it. It is harder to find that

882
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: information that you think. But I'm partnering with a private

883
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: lands biologist with the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and

884
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: they're helping me put about five acres actually we've turned

885
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 3: it into seven now seven acres of the property. We're

886
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: gonna turn it into an oak savannah. I'm familiar with

887
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: that is that's what you're aiming for well, and we

888
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: have we have forty acres that we're dealing with fifty really,

889
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: but this is just seven acres of it is doing that.

890
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 3: But because I feel like they have access to this

891
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: sort of information, I was asking them, and because we're

892
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: going to have a seed mixture, right that goes in

893
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: once we after we deforced the place and then chemically

894
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: burn the shit out of it, We're going to come

895
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: in with native grass seed and forbe seed to bring

896
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: in what's there. And I was saying, I was asking him,

897
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: I said, well, are we going to go and look

898
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: at historical data to then inform what sort of stuff

899
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: we try to plant back in there? And he said, yes,

900
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 3: we can do that, but because things are constantly changing

901
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: in the environment, it's not all like it can inform you.

902
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: But what has happened in the past might not necessarily

903
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: be what you want to do in the future, because

904
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: one hundred years ago or two hundred years ago, the

905
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: climate was a lot different than it is now, and

906
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: so depending on what you want to see and the

907
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: successes you want to have, it could be different. So, yes,

908
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: I have been researching.

909
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: I think it's good whether or not you can achieve

910
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: it or even want to achieve it. I think that

911
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: understanding what it is would would enhance your Oh great,

912
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: enhance your journey. Great, your slash and burn deforestation journey.

913
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: You want to continue, I can talk about this memoir.

914
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the labbr lover my time as a

915
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: deforestation agent.

916
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 3: No, our buddy, Kyle II Barber. You know, I was

917
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: listening to him recently talking about the state of Alabama.

918
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: He says, in probably since uh European contact, the state

919
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: of Alabama has never had more trees than it has today,

920
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: and he would like to see a lot of trees

921
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: cut down and restored into native grass and some prairie habitats.

922
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Understood, I'm mostly joking, I'm mostly yeah.

923
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: I know he just gets talking about No.

924
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Well, okay, we'll get some time just to dive in

925
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: more deeply. There's another one that we were gonna talk

926
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: about today that we're gonna have to punt on. But

927
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: God's a great question, like I try to skirt free

928
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: of like just major controversy on the show. But this

929
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: guy's wondering, like is that right?

930
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: He's wondering about I don't know if I can go

931
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if I want.

932
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: To get into this. It's like really divisive, is uh

933
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: how much fur shit is too much? Like you know,

934
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: like you're saying, like when you do a little like

935
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: you put some bear ces around your hat band or

936
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: you got like a bear klaon necklace. Yeah, you got

937
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: like a fur hat our body.

938
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: Dan Gates pushes the envelope. You know who I'm yeah,

939
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: from Colorad's.

940
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: A great person to have on the debate.

941
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I don't. He has a giant wardrobe

942
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: according to what I see on Instagram. Are you guys

943
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: familiar Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean every time, every time

944
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: he's addressing a topic, I mean there's a new vest

945
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: or you know, some sort of new accouterment to his

946
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: wardrobe that is you know, fur or like you said,

947
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: there's a lot of claws, horns, antlers.

948
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: It's a real.

949
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 5: I think it's depends on the person too.

950
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 8: Man, we're right airport, You're like that person shouldn't be Yeah,

951
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 8: you know.

952
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: We will dive into it bad. We'll dive into it bad.

953
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 4: What's too much?

954
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: And he gives quick thoughts Michael.

955
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you want to touch it because you won't be

956
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: here when we actually dive into it, you know, just

957
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: from listening to to your friend there, I think I

958
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: need more, you know, in your own person.

959
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: And I will put a feather in my hat when

960
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm turkey hunting or something, or you know, I like

961
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: to collect the odd pheasant feather. I too have a

962
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: muskox hide that I'm wondering what to do with. You

963
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: don't wear it though, I don't wear it, but it

964
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: would that would make a cool.

965
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: I would suggest harvesting the what was it, kivvy kivy kivo?

966
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I still might yeah, please.

967
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: I hope I'm still on the list of people that

968
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: might receive a beanie out of it?

969
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: Phil, Can you aim a camera at that muskox hide?

970
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: No? No?

971
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: Can I sure?

972
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: You wanted to? Sure? This? This should be fun? You go, No,

973
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: don't even worry about I just want to see you

974
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: figure it out. That's the up and down one. Here

975
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 3: we go?

976
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: Is that it?

977
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 3: Phil?

978
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 6: No?

979
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: There you go?

980
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: You got it now, Johanni, grab a little kivot off

981
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: that sucker. Well, now that bro, he's got a camera

982
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: on it. While we're doing this.

983
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: You had mentioned earlier in the show about animals people

984
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: don't want to eat, but they shoot. When I was

985
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: in the I was before the show. Sorry to the

986
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: listeners for confusing people. But what I found interesting was

987
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: when I shot mine in the Arctic, the locals. It

988
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: was where there's four guys, we shot four muskoks. We

989
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: couldn't possibly bring all of it home. We brought home

990
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: about angels pounds of meat. But uh, the locals didn't.

991
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: A lot of the locals didn't want it their primary

992
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: and a lot of them really need food. They want

993
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: caribou like that is their main source of protein.

994
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: That's weird because on Nunavat Island, Yeah, it's very popular. Yeah,

995
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: so I was in Baker Lake. They actually brought it

996
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: out there as a source.

997
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: So where I was hunting in Baker Lake is the

998
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: only inland community in in Nuneva. All the other communities

999
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: are coastal and caribou is like their bread and butter.

1000
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: Oh I say, I said, sorry. Nunavak, Nunavak Island and

1001
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: the Bearing Sea, Yeah, with the with the cupic Eskimo

1002
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: muskoks is very popular. Yeah.

1003
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Anyway, I just thought that was interesting because a lot

1004
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 2: of people are not necessarily starving, but they're in need

1005
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: of food at a lot of them.

1006
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 8: But yeah, especially my kid wore that Muskox head for

1007
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 8: Halloween one time.

1008
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: Remember that. So we'll do a whole big We'll do

1009
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: a whole big thing on what's enough, what's too much?

1010
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: What's enough?

1011
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: Okay? Clear? So that wool you just pulled the wool

1012
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: off the Muskox hide. Yeah, you can actually harvest wool

1013
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: and make stuff with it.

1014
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 3: Well, supposedly it's the warmest, like it beats out cashmere marino.

1015
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: There's nothing else. Like, let me think about where that

1016
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: animal lives and uh, yeah, it's but it's hard to

1017
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: harvest if I remember correctly, Like it takes a I forget.

1018
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: There was something that made it a little bit prohibitive

1019
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: to do stuff with it.

1020
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: They don't have domestic do they have there?

1021
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: There was no I want to say a lot of

1022
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: times they harvested it just in the springtime by plucking

1023
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: it off of bushes where it.

1024
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: Out and goat you know. Yeah, No, people would go

1025
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: out and just collect it off. That's cool when they're

1026
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: shed in the spring. Okay. One of the things, Michael,

1027
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: that we're going to get into is I was trying

1028
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: to challenge you on something that Brody found out you were.

1029
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, all right?

1030
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I like this, Like, did Canada have wild turkeys historically?

1031
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: Historically? We were told in our honey course that yes,

1032
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: at least where I grew up, and the hunting license

1033
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: are done by the province, so we had to take

1034
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: a honting course and we had to specifically take a

1035
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: turkey hunting course where they gave us history about the

1036
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: wild turkey that Ontario in fact had a native population

1037
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: of turkeys. They were extinct due to market hunting in

1038
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: the eighteen hundred's, got it and they were brought back

1039
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: I believe in the nineteen eighties, seventies, eighties.

1040
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 8: Two hundred and seventy four wild turkeys and from various

1041
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 8: US And.

1042
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: Did we we traded?

1043
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: Do we trade moose to a States partridge geese and moose?

1044
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1045
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: That was good trade. Yeah, I love it, the cool trade.

1046
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: And now the wild turkey population in Canada is like

1047
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: in Ontario anyway, is absolutely flourishing. Like is it hard

1048
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: to get permissions? I would say yes and no. It

1049
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: kind of depends. Like I grew up in a rural community,

1050
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: so I've got a lot of contacts and family friends

1051
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: and stuff that let me run around on their farms.

1052
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: I think for like an average you know, city person

1053
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: that's interested in hunting, he wants to get their license,

1054
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: I think it's harder for them, you know. I take

1055
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: you know, when my son was smaller, I would just

1056
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: take my kids to farmers doors and knock on the

1057
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: door and say, I want to take my kid hunting, And.

1058
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: You got to get yourself. Yeah, I wouldn't be bringing

1059
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: him anymore. Sary, get yourself some kids, even if you

1060
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: got to borrow them.

1061
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, little nephews or something.

1062
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: Borrow be real friendly.

1063
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: That cute.

1064
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, no it And I don't know the laws,

1065
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: but there are some provinces where it's actually illegal to

1066
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: lease your land for hunting, whereas I know in the

1067
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: States it's really you know, everybody's got a hunting lease

1068
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: somewhere like Saskatchewan. I know, I think it's illegal to

1069
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: lease your land specifically for hunting.

1070
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: You know, however one feels about that personally, How does

1071
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: how do you like, what is the I know you're

1072
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: not like a policy expert on the issue, but how

1073
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: do you argue, like what is the argument? Like?

1074
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: How do you even tell the landowner that.

1075
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: Like, what the hell?

1076
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

1077
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean, how would you enforce that? Yeah, well, I'm

1078
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: just saying like, regardless of how you might personally feel

1079
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: about you know, however you might personally feel about leasing,

1080
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: not leasing, paying your own money, lease, whatever, wishing it

1081
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: was the good old days where you just hunted on

1082
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: everybody's place, never even asked, well, how are you feel

1083
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: about all that?

1084
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 4: I just can't picture crafting legislation.

1085
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would tell a landowner you cannot lease hunting

1086
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: rights on your land. It's like kind of.

1087
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 8: Like that's like saying, what's it to you? That's like

1088
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 8: saying you can't raise cattle or grow hay.

1089
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't make money off your land.

1090
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't leave farming rights on your land and be.

1091
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: Like why yeah, there's more government overreach.

1092
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 1: Well no, it just seems like to be a hard

1093
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: one to like a hard one to sell people on. Yeah,

1094
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: because it's it's not, uh, there's no sort of like

1095
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: there's no impact on neighboring properties. Yeah, you know, it's

1096
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: not like you dump and hog shit into the river

1097
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: and action like it's not your problem anymore. Yeah, right,

1098
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: It's just it's not it doesn't like bleed over onto

1099
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: your neighbors, It doesn't have it doesn't impact anybody.

1100
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just.

1101
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 4: Seems like could be your call.

1102
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how it works

1103
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: because in Ontario I don't think it's the case, but

1104
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: other provinces I've heard that it is.

1105
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: What's the public land situation up there? Public land we

1106
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: call it crown land.

1107
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: There's tons of it, and hunting is generally pretty you know,

1108
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: pretty good depending where you're going. And I think some

1109
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: of the bilaws like there's I guess it depends if

1110
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: you're close to you know, provincial or federal parks. Like

1111
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: there's certain parks that there's no hunting in the parks.

1112
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: But the crown lands, I think it's open. You're allowed

1113
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: to camp on them for you know, you have to

1114
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: move your structure every three weeks, like if you're going

1115
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: for a big trip or something. But it's it's pretty

1116
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 2: well just free reign.

1117
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 4: Can you guys find turks on public land where you're at?

1118
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know there's there's there's public land,

1119
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: but it's like municipal public land. So not far from

1120
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: where I live, you know, an hour and a half

1121
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: from Toronto. You can hunt I think they call them

1122
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: like their county forests, and there their municipal lands and

1123
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've been donated or what they are,

1124
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: but there's hiking trails, there's squad trails, snowbial trails, whatever.

1125
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: And then they'll say like yes to hunting or no

1126
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: to hunting, and there's some turks out on them. Yeah,

1127
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: they have shot turkeys on public land. Yeah.

1128
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 3: How many turkeys can you kill in this season?

1129
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: We have two per spring to mail bearded birds per spring.

1130
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: And they opened up a fall season, which I don't

1131
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: have time for.

1132
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 4: Can you guys shoot uh? Yeah, you know what?

1133
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: And then the fall you can shoot hens. And again

1134
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: it's like I you know, they're way either half the

1135
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: s eyes with tom and it's deer season, like why

1136
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: you know if one happened to walk by my deer stand.

1137
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: But the season is super short, it's like two weeks

1138
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: or something, and the likelihood anyway.

1139
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: I've never been able to get I've never well, I'll

1140
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: tell you this, like I'll do a lot of turkey hunting.

1141
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: I love turk hunt. Yeah, I have never.

1142
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: Because I missed. I have never killed a turkey in

1143
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: the ball. I just shot one bullet. I shot one

1144
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: thirty six round O's head about ninety yards away and missed.

1145
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 4: And that was as close.

1146
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: So now I can sit back and say I've never

1147
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: killed a fall turkey. Yeah, I tried to accident.

1148
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: I tried to draw my bow on a pair that

1149
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: were walking by my tree stand and the moment I

1150
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: even moved, like, they took off and it was like,

1151
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: how do you even do this in the fall, So.

1152
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty I had a similar experience. I wasn't

1153
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: gonna draw on them, but I had a little flock

1154
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: coming to me and I was up in the tree. Yeah,

1155
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 3: I thought I was pretty high up. I thought I

1156
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 3: was pretty well concealed. I had the tree between me

1157
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: and the turkeys, and before I moved, I let him

1158
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: get to probably twenty Yeah, and the moment I like,

1159
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: I was just going for my phone and whatever. That

1160
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: was just that little bit of elbow movement. I saw

1161
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 3: him and go give me one of those. And then

1162
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: the whole flock just turned and it didn't run. But

1163
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 3: it's They're like, eh, I don't know what that was,

1164
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: but we're not messing around with it. Keep walking.

1165
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not into it. No, Mike kills my kid.

1166
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: He thinks we should be like big time Fall Turkey.

1167
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: Hunters and I and again, I've never done it, but

1168
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: I've heard that. You know, you need to find a flock,

1169
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: spook them so they disperse, and then you try and

1170
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: call the flock back.

1171
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: They make a dog for that. Yeah, I got that's.

1172
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 5: How we did it when I was a kid in

1173
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 5: the fall.

1174
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: And it's different calls right, like it's not you.

1175
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: And a lot of times you don't even have to call.

1176
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: They're just gonna come back.

1177
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: Like there's like there's like a grouping call Kiki. But

1178
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: the reason those boys use dogs for it is you

1179
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: can't run fast enough to scatter because what you're trying

1180
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: to do is you're trying to throw the flock into

1181
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: such disarray that they lose track of one another. So

1182
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: if you go run and a half and they just

1183
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 1: run off like a group and they're like in a trail, yeah,

1184
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: they're like, what's this annoying ass dude? But if you

1185
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: send a dog to go slipping in there, raising hell,

1186
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: he might succeed and getting them to lose track of

1187
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: each other. I've never done this. I would like to

1188
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: see if I've never done it, yeah, but just my

1189
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: understanding of it. And then you be we we be

1190
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: wee wee, and they hopefully, you know, draw him back in.

1191
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: I know, guy used to kill houns like that. That

1192
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: was his hun strategy. He would when he kicked a

1193
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: flock of hons, he because they'll always scatter. Yeah, he

1194
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: would kind of like watch them land and figure out

1195
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: what he thought was the center. And I don't even

1196
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: know what call he did. He would do a mouth call.

1197
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: He would go to what he thought was the kind

1198
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: of center and sit there and call that's cool, yeah,

1199
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: and shoot them coming back in. How far do you do?

1200
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 4: You live an hour and a half out of Toronto

1201
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 4: or you.

1202
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: Know, I'm right in the city, so yeah, yeah, my

1203
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: restaurant is about twenty five minutes from my house. But

1204
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: i live on like kind of the northern side of

1205
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: the city and I'm close to all the highways, so

1206
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty mobile for getting out of the city.

1207
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: Quick.

1208
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 4: How's your restaurant doing.

1209
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: It's doing great. We've been around for nine years now,

1210
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: Antler Restaurant, and yeah, we're just trying to figure out

1211
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: how to grow, you know. We we've been there coming

1212
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: up on a decade and you know, we were thinking

1213
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: about either a big renovation, you know, possibly expanding the space.

1214
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: We're just trying to figure all that out.

1215
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, the last time you here your restaurant, you were

1216
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 8: you were real worried about the CONVID thing.

1217
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, COVID really hurt us for a while and a

1218
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: lot of businesses and a lot of business closed. So

1219
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, we're very fortunate and lucky. We had a

1220
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: really good community around us that supported us, and you know,

1221
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: people like what we're doing. And we've got really great

1222
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: team behind us as well, staff wise. So yeah, it's uh,

1223
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: it's good.

1224
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: How often are you there?

1225
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm there during the week. I try not to work

1226
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: weekends anymore. I want to see my family, so I'm

1227
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: there during the week. And then we've got a really

1228
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: great general manager and a head chef. Now that kind

1229
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: of run it.

1230
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me what's on the menu.

1231
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: Right now, we have deer, duck, bison, wild boar, our

1232
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 2: fish is kind of generally rotating for going it what's

1233
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: in season, So we'll do like hal a bit, you know,

1234
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: salmon when it's running. We get walleye from Lake Erie.

1235
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: We get swordfish from the East Coast. Sometimes it's really

1236
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: cool scallops. We get little Canadian like kind of northern shrimp.

1237
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: We do spot prawns and stuff in the in the spring.

1238
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: So I'll be coming up.

1239
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: But where's the wild hog from?

1240
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 6: Uh?

1241
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 4: Can you bring it in from Texas or No?

1242
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. We So there's a farm that's been doing.

1243
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: I think they actually just uh, there's some legislation that's

1244
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: closing down the wild hog farms. It was like a

1245
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: European hog they brought over.

1246
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: Oh so it's like a it's like a domestic hog.

1247
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 5: They're worried about coming in Ontana.

1248
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they actually I think they've actually started

1249
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 2: closing these uh wild boar farms in Ontario because there's

1250
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: been there's been sightings now so.

1251
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: It's wild board, but it's it's domestic, domesticated, like the

1252
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: sort of ancestral sous scrofa.

1253
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they're you know, they're black, long

1254
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: hair type pigs with tusks, whereas uh, you know, just

1255
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: the farmery pigs are pink, careless things.

1256
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: You know. Man, we we long time ago had a

1257
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: dude on aphis guy. That's that's our We have a

1258
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: federal agency that does they do a lot of stuff

1259
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: of non native species and whatnot. Wildlife control services. It's

1260
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: Animal Plant, it's a it's a division of like the

1261
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: Animal Plant and Health Health Animal Plant and Health Inspection Service.

1262
01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: Cool, but they.

1263
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: Extra patient campaigns on invasive species as well. We were

1264
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: talking him about hogs and it was like, where could

1265
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: hogs be if you if you just take the US

1266
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: and I'm sure, I guarantee it's true with Canada.

1267
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 4: Where could they be? They would be fine everywhere.

1268
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: Because you got to go look like look at the

1269
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: habitat there in Siberia. Yeah, they're they're they're wading around

1270
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: and snow up to their brisket, no problem. And it

1271
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: was like where they are and are not is more

1272
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: a factor of where can you find them and kill them? Right,

1273
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: And it's in like open country like around here, it's

1274
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: just easier, it'd be easier to go find them and

1275
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: kill them. And it's like where they survive as places

1276
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: where it's hard to find them and kill.

1277
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: Them, where they've become accepted, become accepted as well.

1278
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's you know, California is such a weird deal, right, like.

1279
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: The tree like a game animal. Yeah, yeah, but they

1280
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: just don't have this. They don't have quite the hordes

1281
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: like they get down in Texas. You know, it's just different.

1282
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: Like hunting pigs in California almost get a little excited

1283
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: when you see one. It can be hard. And you

1284
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: were saying last night, you do quite a bit of

1285
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 1: pig hunting.

1286
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: I've absolutely gone crazy. I'm addicted to that. That night

1287
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: hunting with the thermal. You're really sneaking around the woods

1288
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: of an air fifteen and thermal. It is like amazing.

1289
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just wind up wind up with like

1290
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: you just wind up with like a lot of hawks.

1291
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: You can, yeah, you definitely can.

1292
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 4: You just sort through them and pick the ones you

1293
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 4: like or what do you do?

1294
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so sort of like the gigantic ones that really stink,

1295
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 2: you know, those will kind of go off to the side,

1296
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: and you know, nice kind of medium sized sour or

1297
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: the smaller piglets they're incredible eating m So.

1298
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 4: How when you're getting a bunch, how do you deal

1299
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 4: with them?

1300
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: You can't.

1301
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 4: And also you're going down to Texas, right.

1302
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: I'm in Mississippi, so yeah, and they've got a huge

1303
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: problem with him.

1304
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: And it's the guy that I go with. He donates

1305
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 2: a lot to some of the community. I know, they

1306
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: can drop them off at the penitentiary, the federal prison

1307
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: or whatever, or the state prison. They drop them off there,

1308
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: so yeah, they you know, the ones that we don't want,

1309
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: they do get put to use. But yeah, I love

1310
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: the meat. You know, it's just a totally different style

1311
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: of hunting for me. You know this, the thermal thing

1312
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,440
Speaker 2: is sort of like a video game almost.

1313
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 5: Are you able to fly home with that meat?

1314
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I just have to declare it at customs.

1315
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: You know. You look on the I think it's the

1316
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 2: CBS a website Canadian Border Services or something, and it's

1317
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 2: got everything listed. You can carry more driving. There's really

1318
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: no weight restriction flying they put a weight restriction, which

1319
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: is odd, but I've never had to weigh anything. I

1320
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: just declare it and then you said, where were you?

1321
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: What were you hunting? Okay, see later. So yeah, and

1322
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 2: I freeze it and just put it in a suitcase,

1323
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: wrapped in a hunting jacket and it stays frozen, which

1324
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: is cool.

1325
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: How often you go do that? I'm there pretty much

1326
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: quarterly doing it, Like I try to get there every

1327
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: couple of months. You know.

1328
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it down there. Yeah, I

1329
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: like the South.

1330
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 4: When you guys sell deer in your restaurant, you're buying

1331
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 4: it from New Zealand or something.

1332
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: No, we have there's a there's a lot of local

1333
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: farms you can it's actually cheaper from New Zealand, which

1334
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: bugs me, but yeah, we use a there's a couple

1335
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: of local guys at farm in the red stag species. Yeah,

1336
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: and he's he's uh, he's the cool thing about the

1337
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: game farms is there there's like smaller family run type deals,

1338
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: so you can kind of get to know the farmer

1339
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 2: and two of the farm and meet the meet the family.

1340
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: It's neat talk about what they feed them and their

1341
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: habitat and oh that's cool.

1342
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know more if you see that. Do

1343
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: you ever do those guys sell product in America.

1344
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: That I don't know. I think it's a lot harder,

1345
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: uh for them. You know, I know that the cattle

1346
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: goes across the border, but I don't know about the

1347
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:57,879
Speaker 2: game species.

1348
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: So when you go buy it from Honey buy, like,

1349
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: what's the show up to you? Like?

1350
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: We buy it Quartered, Like we buy a whole Quartered.

1351
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: Do you pick what cord? Do you want, then we

1352
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: take the whole thing. We have to buy a whole

1353
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: animal at a time. Oh you do, and then yeah,

1354
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: we get it. We uh you know, he just does

1355
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: his solid and quarter. We used to get a whole

1356
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: And then he asked me what are you guys doing

1357
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: with this? And I said I told him we just

1358
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: break it down with a hacksaw. And then he said, well,

1359
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: just get a saws all. I'm an idiot. Why I've

1360
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: been doing this for like three years with an hacksaw

1361
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: and then the saws all just cut our time and

1362
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: you know, buy a fraction. And then he was like, well,

1363
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 2: I can just quarter it for you, like after five

1364
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: years quick enough.

1365
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: Yea, Like okay, I didn't know that was an option.

1366
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: But so he goes out, like is he able to

1367
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: go out? He just goes out and shoots the thing.

1368
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: No, he has to actually get it onto a trailer

1369
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: and take it to a slaughterhouse alive.

1370
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: So he saws the antlers off it.

1371
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: I haven't actually asked him about that. He I know

1372
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: he sells Antler. If you want Antler specific stuff, he'll

1373
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: sell you Antler. But yeah, I think he asked he sure.

1374
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: You can transport them with the antlers on them.

1375
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 2: I have no idea how that works. I'll ask him.

1376
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: I've never asked that question.

1377
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: It's red deer.

1378
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, but there's like a legal governmental process you're getting them.

1379
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,879
Speaker 2: He has to get onto a trailer alive to a clarehouse.

1380
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1381
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: And there's been times where he's called me and said, hey,

1382
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 2: I got to come. You know, I can't come this week.

1383
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: I got to come next week because I couldn't catch them.

1384
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 2: So he has to wait till they get into like

1385
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: he's got like a thousand acres or something, and you know,

1386
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 2: when they're in the barnyard he can kind of shut

1387
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: a gate and corral them onto a trailer. There's been

1388
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: times where he's like, I think during mating season in

1389
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: the early summer spring, he can't actually catch him or something.

1390
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: So there's been times like in July he's like, yeah,

1391
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: they're mating or something. I can't I can't get one

1392
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 2: for you this week.

1393
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 4: So you order like one.

1394
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: We usually get two, yeah, one or two, and then

1395
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: the last couple of years we've actually been buying like

1396
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: thirty at a time. There's a a friend of mine

1397
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: that does a cull with like another game farm and

1398
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: he's been calling animals and they actually shoot him. They

1399
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: had a veterinarian on site that inspected the heart and liver,

1400
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: and then the brains were sent for CWD and then

1401
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: once everything was cleared, it went to a bunch of

1402
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 2: shop and got stamped.

1403
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: Got the so they check them for a CD.

1404
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

1405
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: What a weird deal. I know this isn't with you guys,

1406
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: but someone sent me these. I was looking at these

1407
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: exchanges the other day and the deer farmers here, the

1408
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: deer breeders here, not meat guys, but like antler guys.

1409
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: They're trying to they're trying to use this political climate

1410
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: here to try to get like the doge boys to

1411
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: kill CWD research because they're sick of hearing about it. Yeah,

1412
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: they don't want them researching it.

1413
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bummer.

1414
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: That sucks. So they're trying to say that, Hey, while

1415
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 1: you're throwing out all kinds of conservation work, throw that

1416
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: out too.

1417
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah that's unfortunate cause they don't even want to talk

1418
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: about it.

1419
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, say you know what it's going to mean for that.

1420
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: There was a game farm in Quebec, one of the

1421
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 2: largest in the countries, that got completely shut down, had

1422
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: to kill all their their entire herd because of CWD,

1423
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: and they were just the risk of it getting out

1424
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: into the wild.

1425
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 5: People were about it in the restaurant never, no, not.

1426
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: One customers, probably not on the radar at that. That's

1427
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: the thing I wonder about man, is like with there

1428
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: are I'm pretty sure I heard this. There are some

1429
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: food banks that aren't accepting.

1430
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: Oh gave me yeah.

1431
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: And then also there's this there was there was a

1432
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: processor that used to process for food banks. I believe

1433
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. There was a guy in Wisconsin that processed

1434
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: for food banks. Or Michigan maybe yeah, you know what

1435
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: your email Michigan. There's a processor that you could like

1436
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: dudes that like to shoot deer, but they don't know

1437
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: they don't know how to cook or their square image.

1438
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: They won't eat it. They will go and shoot deer,

1439
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: but then they don't know what to do with it.

1440
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: So they always want to donate it, right, you know,

1441
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: so you know because their kids are like I want

1442
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: butter doodles. So but this processor is like, I can't.

1443
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: He can't have it in there anymore. Yeah, he can't

1444
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: have it in his plant because of CWD. So I

1445
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: wonder if if as we get more CWD spreading around more,

1446
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: I always wonder, is that gonna put an end to

1447
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: being able to supply food banks and charitable organizations with

1448
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: deer meat.

1449
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: I know they changed a bunch of laws where I

1450
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: am as well, where you know, any butcher could take

1451
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: game from a hunter and butcher it for them, you know,

1452
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: in charge for it. And that now a lot of

1453
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 2: them have shut down because of new rules and regulations.

1454
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: They've got to clear out all of their you know,

1455
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: farmed meat, wash everything down like wall, ceilings, floors, and

1456
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: give everything a wash, then butcher the game, then wash

1457
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: everything again, and then they're allowed to bring in you know,

1458
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: farm raised products again. So a lot of the processors

1459
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: just say no, they don't do it anymore.

1460
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just get a little bit worried about I

1461
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: get a little bit worried about what that if people

1462
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: if places stop accepting it, right, if people stop accepting it,

1463
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, we're not in a position

1464
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: where we're gonna we're not gonna be able to We're not.

1465
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 4: In a position to kill less.

1466
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: Dear. They're trying to get people to kill more deer

1467
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: in a lot of suburban areas. So it's like if

1468
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: they stop accepting it, I just think it's just to

1469
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: be more ship winds up in the ditch.

1470
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, because people aren't There's just a lot of people

1471
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 8: will never process their own animal.

1472
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: They just won't do No, they're not gonna do it.

1473
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,879
Speaker 1: And like everything they shoot goes in that. And then

1474
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 1: if people don't want to accept it, what's going to happen?

1475
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: And then here's another thing that's like there's this new

1476
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: this idea that never goes away, is like that we

1477
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: should we should begin we should go back to the

1478
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: days of selling wild deer.

1479
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and with c w D every year being in

1480
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 4: more and more and more.

1481
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: Counties, I don't even know if that's like a great

1482
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: business plan because once you have, once you have in

1483
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: these areas where they're wanting they were pushing to sell

1484
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: to your particularly like in the eastern US, if there's

1485
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: CWD infection there percent it gets its high as fifty

1486
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 1: percent in some places. I don't know how much of

1487
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: that shit you're gonna be pushing down at the farmer's market.

1488
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: Have they be like what now have they linked to CWD?

1489
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: It's a human Yet never never, I hope they never will.

1490
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, no, no one's ever gotten it. I mean

1491
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: hunters in America, not just hunters in America. I said

1492
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: this one time to do a CWD researcher and they're like, no,

1493
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: that's not true. And I'm like, it is true, dude.

1494
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: I was like, hundreds of thousands of Americans have eaten

1495
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: CWD infected meat.

1496
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: Probably definitely, I would think so, dude.

1497
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: Once she said no, and I was like, maybe she's right,

1498
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: and I thought about it for now it and I

1499
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: thought about it for a while longer. I'm like, dude,

1500
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people have eaten CWD infected meat.

1501
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,440
Speaker 4: No one, no one.

1502
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: But there's this like there's there's there's risk meaning mad

1503
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: like you know mad cow has jumped.

1504
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 4: Am I wrong about that?

1505
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: No, Like it's no, for.

1506
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: Sure, Mad. It becomes like yakub you know, christ felt,

1507
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: christ felt yaka disease preon diseases have moved across the barrier.

1508
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: This one has not. Okay, but there's also But what

1509
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is this a perception issue, like picture

1510
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: that they in the East or wherever where you're at, whatever,

1511
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: they start saying, hey, we're going to go back to

1512
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: the days of shooting white tail deer and selling the

1513
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: meat in the markets. And then you are a anti

1514
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: hunting organization and you start saying, well, you know, there's

1515
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: like a prion disease that is in that herd at

1516
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: prevalency rates of five, ten, fifteen percent.

1517
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 4: How much that shit you're gonna be selling?

1518
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so no, no one's gotten it. This is the

1519
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: thing we discussed all the time is there's two ways

1520
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: I look at it and be like, I believe a

1521
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: person that says CWD is not a problem. There's like

1522
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: a litmus test that I devised that I haven't done yet,

1523
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 1: but I need to. I'm gonna get a bunch of

1524
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: CWD meat from my friends in Wisconsin. I'm gonna be like,

1525
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: I want meat from all your positives. Okay, you give me,

1526
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: I want ten. I want meat from ten positives. My

1527
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: buddy Pat Dirkin got a positive dough this year. I

1528
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: just said, semi a pound I'm gonna make. I'm gonna

1529
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 1: get all this CWD positive meat and I'm gonna make

1530
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: burgers with it. So it's all known positives and I'm

1531
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna make burgers. And when I get someone who tells me,

1532
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: CWTS nothing to worry about, and they should cut research

1533
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: funding for CWD. I'm gonna make them up that patty, yeah, lettuce, pickles, tomatoes,

1534
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: however you want it, and I'm gonna be like, eat

1535
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: that burger, talk, serve it to your kids. Eat that

1536
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: burger and then come tell me. Eat that burger and

1537
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: come tell me about it. If you eat that burger,

1538
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: I believe everything you say.

1539
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 8: There will be some people that will talk to that.

1540
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: I'll gladly talk to them.

1541
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, we're all going to be like carrying bleach and frickin' No.

1542
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that.

1543
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 6: I think that that's too thinks one in the podcast room.

1544
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: No, but you're falling. You're doing the other thing. You're

1545
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: doing the like everything has its extreme. Yes, So on

1546
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: one extreme you got like it doesn't matter, no one.

1547
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 4: Should pay attention to CWT.

1548
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: The other extreme is like if a deer was wd

1549
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: uh so much as looks at your stainless steel counter,

1550
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: your stainless steel counter will forever be infected with c

1551
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: w D. And it's like, can we remind everyone that

1552
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: no one's gotten it from eating this ship? Yet now

1553
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about your stainless steel counter giving you c

1554
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 1: w D.

1555
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 4: You can't even get it from eating the meat.

1556
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: Like in Ontario where I live, I don't even think

1557
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 2: there's a resource where I could send uh my animal

1558
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: to test. I don't think whereas like in you know,

1559
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's every state or you know,

1560
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 2: half the states where you can send in your like

1561
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: you said, your friendly.

1562
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what they're trying to do. They're trying

1563
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: to like shut the whole conversation down. And and I'm like, hey, man,

1564
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. No one's gotten it. I hope no

1565
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: one ever gets it. I don't want anyone to get it.

1566
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: I think I think we should be investing heavily in

1567
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: research to understand is it, like, to understand everything there

1568
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: is about it, because you're gonna kill I think that

1569
01:21:54,600 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: if if Heaven forbid, dude, Heaven forbid, if you somehow

1570
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 1: like had some hunters whatever Heaven forbid, it would it

1571
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: would destroy deer hunting. Yeah, or if they would put

1572
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: them not destroyed, it would really hurt. It would shake

1573
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: it up to cattle. Who knows what would happen. Yeah,

1574
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: that's see. That's the other part that like the other

1575
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: point I always make is like I always look like, man,

1576
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: those boys aren't sweating it. Maybe I shouldn't sweat it. Yeah,

1577
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, because they're not worried about their cattle,

1578
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: and their cattle look a hell of a lot more

1579
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: like a deer than I do. But then other guys

1580
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: are like cattle guys are sweating it. Mm hmm.

1581
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 4: It's scary, man, Like just the unknown is scary.

1582
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,799
Speaker 1: But the whole burger point is that the CWD burger

1583
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: I want to make is like and I do. I

1584
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: am going to do this some pre pre frozen like dude,

1585
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: I want I want to hear from. I want to

1586
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: talk with and hang out with and converse with more

1587
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 1: people who don't care, because then maybe it'll make me

1588
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: not care because it makes me nervous.

1589
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 4: And who wants to be nervous?

1590
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: Like, no one like.

1591
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 4: Chooses to be nervous.

1592
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: Ignorance.

1593
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you see those drugs that are supposed to

1594
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: like make you more sexually desirous, right, I'm like, if

1595
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 1: you're not, if you have no appetite, do you wish

1596
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: you did? It's a weird thing, you know what I mean?

1597
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: Do you find what I'm saying like I wish I

1598
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: wanted something that I can't get, but like I don't

1599
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: want to be nervous about I don't want to be

1600
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: nervous about CWD. But if I give my burger to

1601
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: some dude and he heeds the burger, I'm like, man,

1602
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: this is a true believer.

1603
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 3: Anyway, you know.

1604
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 6: Makes me nervous around like spinal cords, Like my dude,

1605
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 6: like my before my dear tested negative.

1606
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 8: But it's like.

1607
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 5: Always there's no such thing as a negative.

1608
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 6: It's non detected, right, And so that's the other thing

1609
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 6: that makes me nervous. And I'm like, if I wait

1610
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 6: three more days or wait four more days, like what's

1611
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 6: the like preon load that would push the little meter

1612
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 6: to detect it? And then I'm like getting all weird

1613
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 6: about the spinal cord. And then one day I forgot

1614
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 6: and I kind of like sectioned part of the back

1615
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 6: and cooked it in a soup and like slurped up

1616
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 6: the spinal cord and I was like, oh, I have.

1617
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 7: No like personal anxiety about getting CWD.

1618
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: Really would you eat my burger? I mean, I just

1619
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: Randall's the first guy is gonna have the burger. Yeah,

1620
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: I've gotten I've gotten deer tested company man.

1621
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 6: No, No, I mean I just too much as a friend.

1622
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 5: But you don't lose sleep over it.

1623
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 1: About a meatball. I think if no, I guess Swedish meatballs.

1624
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 7: It's one of those things where I see, I see

1625
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 7: CWD as like this existential problem for deer in North

1626
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 7: America and deer hunting as we know it, right, But

1627
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 7: I think, like the odds of the piano falling out

1628
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 7: of the sky and hitting me and I'm the first

1629
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 7: human to get it, I see those odds is very low,

1630
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 7: like me personally getting it, and I'm I'm the case

1631
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 7: number one. Does that make sense?

1632
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be the case

1633
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 4: number one.

1634
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 6: I mean it'd be like everybody. It'd be like thousands

1635
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 6: of people at the same time get it.

1636
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 4: They would have already been getting it.

1637
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, And that kind of disease, you could carry it

1638
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 8: around forever.

1639
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: And that's how they scare you. Yeah, they tell you

1640
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: what you maybe you don't know yet. It's like the

1641
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: cordyceps like Last of Us show the mushroom fungus takes

1642
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: over their brain. Yeah, oh, I haven't seen that.

1643
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: It's a good one.

1644
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 4: Like it's India, but you don't know it.

1645
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh they know it. They turn into like zombies or something.

1646
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 2: It's like a horror kind of TV show. But there's

1647
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: that mushroom, the parasitic mushroom that will take over like

1648
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: an ant's brain, and it kills the ant and then

1649
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 2: the mushroom grows out of it. It's like, would you

1650
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: eat the burger? I mean, I don't think so.

1651
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: I would think about it.

1652
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: I would think about it.

1653
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1654
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's not that I I guess like

1655
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 7: if I had if I tested a deer and it

1656
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 7: was positive.

1657
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I wouldn't eat it. Hm.

1658
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 4: So you definitely would, right.

1659
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, my burger is made of all right, it's

1660
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: seasoned with But like the idea that the idea that

1661
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 1: a deer that's.

1662
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 7: That's either an unknown or has tested not detected, the

1663
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 7: idea that I would be like personally anxious about somehow

1664
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 7: that yeah, like like my own personal anxiety is I mean, Plus,

1665
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 7: if I did get CDWD and and I was case

1666
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 7: one when they did all the blood tests on me,

1667
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 7: that find something else that's wrong with me, and then

1668
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 7: that would actually be the primary concern I feel like,

1669
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 7: you know, I just think of all the things in

1670
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 7: the world for me personally that it's gonna that's gonna

1671
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 7: change my arc in the universe.

1672
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 5: It's kind of like eating fish from a lake that has.

1673
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 3: Like high mercury.

1674
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't care about that. I mean, I

1675
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: guess for me, it's not just fish burgerful of high

1676
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: mercury fish.

1677
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1678
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: I've eaten like Ontario salmon that I later kind of

1679
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 2: researched and was like, yeah, I probably shouldn't eat that.

1680
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 4: It's not gonna do anything to you, dude.

1681
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 6: I mean, but you guys were eating like you know,

1682
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 6: your mercury poisoning.

1683
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's totally different disease getting.

1684
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 6: Like you know, it's just like health in general, maintaining or.

1685
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yos.

1686
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 4: Getting c j D is not having a little mercury spike.

1687
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 6: No, I'm not saying that the same thing. But it's

1688
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 6: like if you can. For me personally, I try to

1689
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 6: avoid to the extent possible, Like I don't put plastic

1690
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 6: in the microwave like it extends to I'm consistent across

1691
01:27:59,240 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 6: the board.

1692
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: Flirt you don't flirt with danger.

1693
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 3: When you first brought up the CWD burger idea, I

1694
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 3: believe you're going to grind the spine into the well

1695
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: I someone pointed this out.

1696
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: Someone pointed out, but I don't grind my spines into

1697
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: my burger. Mm hmm. So it's like, out of fairness, okay,

1698
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 1: I don't the deer. I don't eat the deer brains anyway,

1699
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: so don't put it in. I don't want to dear

1700
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: brain burger out of any kind would you.

1701
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 5: Would you lose sleep if you found out after the

1702
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 5: fact that you ate?

1703
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 6: No?

1704
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like, that's what I'm saying because I

1705
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: guarantee I have. I guarantee, I think because I got buddies.

1706
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 1: I got burdies, like buddies of mine in Wisconsin. Like

1707
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: they'll be like, send you some summer sausage or something,

1708
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, and sure, like I probably have.

1709
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 4: But here's the deal.

1710
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: One time, See, my wife doesn't listen to anything I

1711
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: say or right, so I can say this here it

1712
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: won't get back to her. My daughter killed a deer

1713
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 1: in a high c w D area or not a

1714
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: high area. She killed a deer in a c w

1715
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: where they recommend testing. And this is a county order

1716
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: c WD cases so I submit my sample on the

1717
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: way home. You just pull in and submit. I submit

1718
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: my sample on the way home, and we eat the

1719
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: heart right away because I kind of forgot for a minute.

1720
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: Then I'm thinking to myself that something bitch comes back positive.

1721
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: I either got to live with a secret car, got

1722
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: tell my wife like, hey, you know, like uh, you know,

1723
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: and she's gonna be pissed. But it came back negative.

1724
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I had text you last summer when

1725
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 2: I thought I infected myself an entire party with trichinosis. Yeah,

1726
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: and you were like, I think I just got the

1727
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 2: flu or something. After I had like a week later,

1728
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 2: and I text you because I was freaked out, and

1729
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: you said, no, I think it's like a for symptoms.

1730
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I turned out being being negative and it

1731
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: was nothing, but I was I was pretty freaked out. Sure,

1732
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 1: I didn't care that I had it.

1733
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: I was freaked out that I had like potentially given

1734
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 2: it to like thirty people at a barbecue.

1735
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't matter.

1736
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: Would you serve them bear cougar?

1737
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: I did a cougar ham and we we I spit

1738
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 2: this funny. I spit roasted a beaver and I did

1739
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 2: a cougar ham and uh, and I remember like temping

1740
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 2: the beaver repeatedly, and I I know I attempt the cougar,

1741
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: but I couldn't remember what the final temp was And

1742
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: then was it one thirty? Yeah? Yeah, And it's like

1743
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 2: I had it was my birthday, so I had had

1744
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: a few drinks. We were having fun, and the next

1745
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 2: day I just was like, I don't really remember what

1746
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 2: that cougar was. And then I got sick, like, you know,

1747
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: four or five days after.

1748
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: And was like, oh, yeah, but it doesn't matter.

1749
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: Too.

1750
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: Is probably tricky for you, you know, metrics. You could

1751
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 1: meet to in metric how's that work? You know?

1752
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:01,919
Speaker 2: I use fahrenheit.

1753
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: I use Yeah.

1754
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 2: It's like in culinary school, they still teach you the

1755
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 2: imperial temperatures. I think now maybe like because I'm you know,

1756
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: old enough that maybe they weren't, but they kind of

1757
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 2: teach you both. And just all the old school chefs

1758
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 2: I grew everything was always fahrenheit. And a lot of

1759
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 2: our ovens and equipment seriously come from the States too,

1760
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 2: so I think, so they're all the dials and stuff are.

1761
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: I think it's like a car, like you can see

1762
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 2: the celsius or fahrenheit, but I think fahrenheit's more predominant.

1763
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: That's because in the US, everything that matters they do

1764
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: in metric, Like I think the military runs the military

1765
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: runs metric. Yeah, nah, so they're not like three eighths

1766
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: of an inch like my other a couple of yards

1767
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 1: from the moon here, My oven at home is in fahrenheit.

1768
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 2: So it's just isn't really. Yeah, I saw cooking stuff

1769
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:46,520
Speaker 2: I use fahrenheit.

1770
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 4: And you were taught that in culinary school.

1771
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they always showed you both. But like like,

1772
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: like I said, our equipment it's in fahrenheit.

1773
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 4: When you wake up in the morning, what's the temperature.

1774
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: That's in celsius? Which is bizarre, Like I have to

1775
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 2: I have to cross reference stuff when I'm traveling to

1776
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Like I know, eighties like warm, you know, nineties hot?

1777
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: You know sixties seventies is like comfortable, you got thirty

1778
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 2: two is freezing. I know the basics, but I don't

1779
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,799
Speaker 2: know the conversions, like exact.

1780
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 4: Tell me about spit rolls and a beaver.

1781
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: So I text a friend of mine that's indigenous, and

1782
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: I someone had gifted me this beaver.

1783
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 2: They were trapping. They said they had too many. Did

1784
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 2: I want a beaver? And I said, you know, yes,

1785
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 2: And this thing was gigantic. It was the biggest beaver

1786
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.

1787
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 4: Don't give me vaguaries, man.

1788
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't weigh it, but I've seen

1789
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 2: like this thing was massive, Like it was like a

1790
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: like a large dog. I show you a picture. So

1791
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 2: I called my my buddy, who's indigenous. I said, I said,

1792
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, what do you guys, what do you do

1793
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 2: with this? I don't know, like, what would someone in

1794
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 2: your community do with beaver? Meet? And they said they

1795
01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: smoke it, so they always smoke. So I thought, okay,

1796
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 2: I bought this rotisserie thing and I did a huge

1797
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: open fire and and just spit roasted it. And then

1798
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 2: so he said they smoke it, so I wanted to

1799
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: smoke it over wooden charcoal. And then I I was

1800
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: glazing it with birch syrup, which I just kind of

1801
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 2: came up with that on my own because it's like

1802
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,839
Speaker 2: kind of molassesy, savory sweet, kind of has a tanginess

1803
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: to it, and it came out awesome.

1804
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 1: Now I got a problem where I like I missed

1805
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: some of the detail. You bit you were putting the

1806
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: syrup on it while you Yeah.

1807
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 2: So I had it on a rotisserie and dripping it

1808
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 2: on the dripping and I had like a brush and

1809
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 2: I'd kind of brush it every every every so often, bruph.

1810
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 3: I you know what.

1811
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 2: I tried to make birch syrup one year, and I

1812
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: got so many flies and moths in it. It was

1813
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:40,759
Speaker 2: pretty gross.

1814
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 3: Birch.

1815
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 2: The birch trees run after the maple trees run, and

1816
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 2: by that time all the snow is gone and it's

1817
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: actually quite warm. And you have to do it with

1818
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: the tube and line system where there's no oxygen and

1819
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: the flies can't get in, which I just did it

1820
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 2: with a bucket. Oh no, kid, So if you just

1821
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 2: hang a buck like for a maple season, that you

1822
01:33:59,040 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: can hang, I do line.

1823
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: Now I want to get in there.

1824
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 2: They so like I opened the lid of this bucket

1825
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 2: and there was like three hundred moths in this one

1826
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 2: little bucket, and I was like, that's gross.

1827
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: This whole thing is such a knowledge gap with me.

1828
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: Is it's neat? It's fun.

1829
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we were kids, we'd run around trying to

1830
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: tap stuff. We had no idea what we're doing. Yeah,

1831
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: and we just like tap it the summer. Yeah. Uh yeah, no,

1832
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: no experience with it. My brother Danny in Alaska, he

1833
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: makes the birch sierup cool. It takes twice like the

1834
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: racial is already terrible. Yeah, but it's twice as terrible, yes, yeah.

1835
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: And then everything you put it on tastes like a

1836
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 1: buckwheat pancake. Yeah, its like a molasses yeah Haines, Yeah, no,

1837
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: it's so yeah.

1838
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Maybe so it's fun. So like back home, it's the

1839
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: season is now in the spring, when the temperatures are

1840
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 2: above freezing during the day and then they freeze at night.

1841
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 2: It's sort of the optimal season.

1842
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: So how'd you serve? What'd you wind up doing with

1843
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: that beaver?

1844
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: Then we, uh so we're shooting it for the cookbook.

1845
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 2: So it's in the second cookbook, which is in September.

1846
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 2: And uh we just did like a barbecue plate with it.

1847
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 2: We sliced it, sliced some of the tail and just

1848
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 2: had it with that bird syrup claze.

1849
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 4: But when you did that, were you able to get it?

1850
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 4: You didn't get where you could pull it.

1851
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 2: It was some parts you could pull, Like I think

1852
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 2: I did it for about ten hours or yeah, I

1853
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: started in the morning.

1854
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1855
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 2: So like some parts you could pull some of the thicker,

1856
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 2: like the hind quarter stuff. I could slice like I

1857
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 2: could physically rip it, like it wasn't like falling apart pulling,

1858
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 2: but I could kind of pull it off the bone,

1859
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 2: and then I sliced it. You did hide off right? Yeah?

1860
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well you know, and there's a mountain man

1861
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Osborne Russell Okay left a very very good journal and

1862
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:51,480
Speaker 1: he describes that. He describes the she beaters, the shoshowone

1863
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: group that was in like the Absorcas. Was that where

1864
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: it was when he ran into him? Was he in

1865
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: the Absorcas? I think it's down by the tee towns.

1866
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 4: Oh, was that where he ran into him?

1867
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? They when they're cooking them, they were doing it

1868
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: like how you would do a hog, a roast hog,

1869
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: but they're burning the hair off instead of scalding it.

1870
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: So they're rolling it to burn all the hair off

1871
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: and then roasting it skin on like you was a pig,

1872
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: which I'm kind of dying to try.

1873
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 4: I want a d hair one, Yeah, got it, d

1874
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 4: hair it so it's.

1875
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: Cavity back up. Was good stuff to eat inside there

1876
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: and then roasted skin on. Yeah, I wonder if you

1877
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 1: get that crackling like you would with pigskins. They're kind

1878
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 1: of greasy. They're greasy. I'm definitely wanting to do it.

1879
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: And then what you do with your mountain lion? I

1880
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:43,759
Speaker 1: got everybody.

1881
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:51,759
Speaker 2: I did like a charsius kind of Chinese barbecue sauce

1882
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 2: that I marinated it in and uh and and smoked it.

1883
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 2: And I say thing, I smoked it not to the

1884
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 2: point of pulling, but where it was like really tender

1885
01:36:58,920 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 2: and I could slice it.

1886
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: You guys, don't where's you? Where's that mountain line?

1887
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: From my friends? Shot that in British Columbia. Oh okay, yeah,

1888
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: so he gifted that kind quarters.

1889
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 5: What do they call him up there?

1890
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 3: They got the.

1891
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Cats mountain lions. They say cat hunting or a mountain.

1892
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: Lion, not cougar, not catamount. I've never heard cat mount

1893
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: not painter. No, No, I have yet to shoot one.

1894
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 2: I've I've I'm trying to trying to get my hands

1895
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: on a tag, but they're unless you live in a

1896
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 2: you know, province or state. I think they're they're getting

1897
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 2: kind of expensive. You gotta know somebody here get a deal.

1898
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: But does Canada the same way that for for an

1899
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: American dude to go hunt or so like to go

1900
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 1: hunt big game. For an American to go hunt big

1901
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: game in Canada, there's all the guide, there's guide requirements. Yeah,

1902
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: but if you hunt out of province.

1903
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 2: In Canada, depends on the province. For me to go

1904
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: to BC or Alberta, Saskatchewan, Newfoundland, most of the province

1905
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: is actually except for Ontario where I live, you have

1906
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 2: to go with a guide. I'm technically a non resident

1907
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 2: even in my own country.

1908
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 1: See, that's all a game birds.

1909
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't I think it's a big game. Small games

1910
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: off that list big game, And I don't know if

1911
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 2: it's like a safety thing. You know, they don't want

1912
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 2: people climbing mountains that don't know what they're doing. Maybe,

1913
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what kind of thing it is. Yeah,

1914
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: money for you people not watching them doing the money signing.

1915
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe that's a good thing, Like it's like

1916
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: local economy, it's but you know, the price tag of

1917
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 2: things now is just getting out of control. Like I'm like,

1918
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 2: will I ever shoot a sheep?

1919
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 6: You know?

1920
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: The one cool thing.

1921
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 2: Though about Alberta and BC in these big games. There

1922
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: is a slight kind of workaround. If you know someone

1923
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: that has someone that lives there and is a resident,

1924
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 2: they can apply It's called the permission to a company.

1925
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 2: So I can go with a local that lives there,

1926
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 2: and we have to apply for this permission to a

1927
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 2: company three months before the season or something, and then

1928
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,799
Speaker 2: I can put in for the draw and then potentially

1929
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 2: draw tag.

1930
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 3: Spencer was just researching the old permission to a company.

1931
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I've had people invite me on those permission to accompanies. Yeah,

1932
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: but you know, it's so I'd love to understand it better.

1933
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to have It's hard to understand

1934
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: your own state. Yeah, you know, I'm always explaining what

1935
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: goes on here, and it changes all the time. It's

1936
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: hard to get like a good grip. And then you're

1937
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 1: talking about like a huge place with all these you know,

1938
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: how many what seven? How many provinces are there? Thirteen?

1939
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: There is ten provinces, three territories.

1940
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 4: See that randall something like that?

1941
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: Pretty good, I corrected myself.

1942
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna count.

1943
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 4: Tell tell us about the book, though, man, tell us

1944
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 4: about your new cookbook.

1945
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 2: Cookbook? Well, the first cookbook did did really well, and

1946
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 2: I think It surprised my publisher as a first time

1947
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Canadian author, you know, thanks to guys like you. It

1948
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 2: did really well in the States, so I think they

1949
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 2: were really surprised.

1950
01:39:59,080 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1951
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: It was in every bass pro across the country, which

1952
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: I thought was pretty amazing.

1953
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 6: It was amazing.

1954
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

1955
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 2: And that was a passion project for me for like

1956
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: ten years. I worked on that thing. I originally thought, oh,

1957
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: I'm mean a self published and I did a lot

1958
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 2: of the photography just because I was like a twenty

1959
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 2: year old kid, you know, take an interest in something

1960
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: and run around with a camera. I couldn't really afford

1961
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: a photographer, so I thought I'll just take you know,

1962
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 2: pictures myself, and you know.

1963
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: And then.

1964
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 2: So the first book did really really well, and then

1965
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of years went by and my

1966
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 2: publisher said, hey, you know what you think about a

1967
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: second book? And I really love you know, I love barbecue,

1968
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, but you know, I'm not really known as

1969
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 2: a barbecue guy. Yeah, but you know, because at first

1970
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'd like to do a barbecue book,

1971
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 2: and that's like, well, not really a pitmaster. But then

1972
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 2: I started thinking about it.

1973
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 4: I felt like you were like a you felt like

1974
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 4: you were like an inner lower.

1975
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know like that, what's that syndrome the imposters?

1976
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 3: Maybe is barbecue like popular it is.

1977
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 2: But you know, Canada doesn't have its own barbecue culture

1978
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 2: right now, Like there's like, you know, the Carolina barbecue

1979
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 2: versus Texas and you know so, but then I was,

1980
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, really make it authentic. And

1981
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 2: then I thought, you know what do I love most?

1982
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 2: And it's like, I love cooking over a fire. So

1983
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 2: the second book is all over the fire.

1984
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 4: Do you guys do that in your restaurant?

1985
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 2: We have some We have a little live fire grill

1986
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 2: that we finish everything on. So we'll like pants here

1987
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: a rabbi and we have a bison ribbi. We cast

1988
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 2: iron pants, sear it, and then we finish it on

1989
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:34,600
Speaker 2: this little charcoal barbecue that's a and it just imparts that,

1990
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 2: like you know, that little charcoal kiss of smoke into it,

1991
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 2: charcoal that a lot of people comment, they're like, what's

1992
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:43,719
Speaker 2: different about your meat? And it's like, oh, it's finished

1993
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 2: on charcoal. And then but yeah, there's just something about

1994
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 2: cooking over a live fire like you can't. You can't.

1995
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 2: It's hard to explain. But it's just it tastes better.

1996
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 2: And I don't you know, I don't know why that is.

1997
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 2: It's whether you're just because you're standing around watching the flames,

1998
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 2: being outside, you know, all those things that go along

1999
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 2: with it, you know, you and everyone in this room

2000
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 2: knows about you know what cooking like cooking at camp

2001
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 2: is like, like why does it taste so good? And

2002
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 2: then when you go home it's it's good, but it's

2003
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 2: not the same, you know, And is it? Is it

2004
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: the experience outdoors? Is it that you're so hungry because

2005
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 2: you've been hiking a mountain, you know, on your on

2006
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 2: your sheep hunt or whatever it is. You know, why

2007
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 2: does that meal taste so good? It's over the fire,

2008
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 2: you know, and it's a it's as a professional chef

2009
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 2: like I, I can't figure it out, you know. And

2010
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 2: it's so that's what I was passionate about. I thought,

2011
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, this was this is gonna be a fun

2012
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: project to do all over the fire and h and yeah,

2013
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: it proved to be a lot harder than the first

2014
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 2: one because everything had to be done outside over a fire. Yeah,

2015
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 2: but there's a lot a lot more seafood in this book,

2016
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: and there's still some desserts and cocktails and stuff I

2017
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: worked into it that you can be made over the

2018
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 2: fire or on a smoker.

2019
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 1: And h and yeah, I'm really excited about it. You

2020
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: got photos all over the place. Yeah, I did a

2021
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 1: lot of travel.

2022
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm really really fortunate to uh to work with some

2023
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 2: some cool hunting companies that kind of helped me on

2024
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 2: the travel stuff. And uh, yeah, the muskox is in there,

2025
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 2: Antelope is in there, Elk is in there, and grease balls, lakers,

2026
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 2: there's some lake rod in there.

2027
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: Love those things. But I was more joking about when

2028
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: I was a kid, that's what people they were. They

2029
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: went through a period of being. That's weird. Man Like

2030
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: in Michigan, they went through a period of being.

2031
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 5: It was probably because of like the introduced salmon and

2032
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 5: people looked at them.

2033
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 4: They got all excited about.

2034
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's like those that fishery was built

2035
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: on lakers, not built on I mean, lakers were a

2036
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: huge part of the fishery, you know, and then they

2037
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: kind of got decimated by lampreys. Salmon came in, and

2038
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 1: then when I was a little kid, people would talk

2039
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: about Lake Trout like almost being like adjacent to a

2040
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 1: rough fish.

2041
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 4: Now they're celebrated again.

2042
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, Damn they're good, man, They're so good.

2043
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 2: I was actually fishing for the lake trout last week

2044
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 2: with some buddies, and I was actually getting frustrated. I

2045
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 2: didn't catch any good eating size when we're catching these monsters,

2046
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: which is like unreal through the ice, through the ice.

2047
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 1: I'd never caught.

2048
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 2: Anything that big, any kind of fish through the ice before,

2049
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 2: so I was like freaking out. And then I was like,

2050
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 2: we can't eat these in this big and they're like no,

2051
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 2: like you can't eat their way like mushy, and like

2052
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 2: they're not good to eat when they're big, because I've

2053
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 2: I've caught lots of small ones, you know, through the

2054
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: ice in different different lakes and up north a couple

2055
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 2: summers ago, I caught like a forty five pound lake trout.

2056
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

2057
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:41,879
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, there's a lodge. They're called Plumbers Arctic lodges,

2058
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 2: and they're a great Bear lake in the Northwest Territories

2059
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 2: and they're one of the deepest lakes in the world.

2060
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 2: I have forty five pound lake trout and that's not

2061
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 2: even like their record is seventy.

2062
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: They like to the record record out of it.

2063
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 4: I think wasn't Michigan. Wasn't there a ninety pounder came

2064
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 4: out of.

2065
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 3: Mission the world records out of.

2066
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: Slave Lake.

2067
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Mate, what it's out of Canada?

2068
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: It's over one hundred.

2069
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the Missy.

2070
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: There's one. There's like an account of a ninety something

2071
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 1: from mission. But it was so long ago, you wonder

2072
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: what the hell they measured it on. Yeah, like bags

2073
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: of sand on one of the little deals.

2074
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 2: You know, the scales of justice. But that Yeah, so

2075
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 2: that place was. But I never caught one that big

2076
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 2: through the ice. So this one's pret it's probably like

2077
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty pounds range. But uh yeah it was wild

2078
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 2: and I had gone. I wasn't expecting to catch anything

2079
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 2: that big. So I used my little six inch auger

2080
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 2: and my buddies had an eight inch auger and I'm

2081
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 2: like yelling at them to come over and give me

2082
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 2: a hand because.

2083
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 1: I widened the hole.

2084
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 3: Well, I was like, what are we gonna do here?

2085
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 2: You know, we got it through. It was pretty pretty

2086
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 2: uh challenging what we got it through. But yeah, it's

2087
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 2: uh so anyway I've been, I've been on a big

2088
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 2: ice fishing kick. Lately.

2089
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 4: Did you guys put a gaff into it to drag

2090
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 4: it up through that small hole?

2091
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 1: No, No, we just suck her hand in them, because

2092
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: that's the thing you want, Like when the whole when

2093
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 1: you get real deep ice, yeah, that you can't get

2094
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, And when they come up and that hooks

2095
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about nors, but you know northerns, but have

2096
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: been the same with lake trout.

2097
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, is the hooks coming outside of their mouth.

2098
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: And when he comes up to the ice, he's like

2099
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: sideways in there, Yeah, where the front of his face

2100
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: is on one side of the hole and his gill

2101
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: covers on the other side of the hole, and no

2102
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 1: amount of it's so hard to ever get him fanaggled. Yeah,

2103
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: to get his head because you can't because the whole

2104
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 1: the ice is too thick to manipulate it by right

2105
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: pulling the line around. So we would turn into a

2106
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: drywall anchor.

2107
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2108
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we would just take a big fishing hook.

2109
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 1: I have one that's just it's a big treble hook

2110
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: on the end of a long graphite fishing rod. Yeah,

2111
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: that you can just put down there and just try

2112
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 1: to get something into him. Yeah, to pull him up

2113
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 1: finagle his head around.

2114
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were on like twelve inches, so we just

2115
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 2: stuck her hand down, pulled them up.

2116
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: That forty five pounder. That's cool.

2117
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got a cool way of cooking them

2118
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 2: in the book. The lake trout we just did over

2119
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,600
Speaker 2: a fire, and then we maybe got that one that

2120
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 2: picture where it's like pro oh that's uh, that's a steelhead.

2121
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: And that some reas I thought. I remember that being a.

2122
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I nailed that to a cedar plank. I put

2123
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 2: some culp behind it and with that over far.

2124
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 3: That was cool.

2125
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, really cool pictures.

2126
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, thanks, Yeah, so some of those, A lot

2127
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: of those. I took the ones in nature I take

2128
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 2: myself and then my business partner takes the the indoor

2129
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 2: kind of play.

2130
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 4: That's a lot of your photography. Yeah, yeah, it's talented.

2131
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: You know.

2132
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 2: I can take I'm not you know, I use auto

2133
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: mode a lot. I can. I can manipulate some stuff

2134
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 2: in manual mode, you know, but I'll take a picture

2135
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 2: in auto and then try and correct some stuff. But yeah, yeah,

2136
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 2: I just point and shoot.

2137
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 4: How many recipes are in the book.

2138
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 2: Thinks about one hundred this one as well. Yeah, yeah,

2139
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 2: the seafood one, I got them down to eighty because

2140
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if that's a lot. So

2141
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 2: the number three is going to be eighty, but yeah,

2142
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 2: this one's one hundred.

2143
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 1: When you're doing it, how much when you're putting a

2144
01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: book together, how much do you think of it? Like

2145
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: how do you imagine the balance between things that people

2146
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't think to eat? And so you're trying to convince

2147
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 1: people to try stuff which I would put like, I mean,

2148
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: people have always eaten beavers, but I'll put beavers in

2149
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: that pile. Mountain lions I have always been eating, but

2150
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll put mountain lines in the pile. So like just

2151
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: general Joe Blow, Like there's always subcultures that consume this stuff,

2152
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 1: but like the general Joe Blow is going to be

2153
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 1: reluctant to try, So you want to encourage them. On

2154
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: the other hand, you want to have the stuff that's

2155
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: just easy and good everybody knows is good.

2156
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 2: Are you aware of this? The mix the sales?

2157
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, like yeah, yeah, what is your mix?

2158
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 1: Like what's your personal mix?

2159
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 2: I think I think my publisher called them, our editor

2160
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 2: called them, like the aspirational recipes. I think there's a.

2161
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Five to ten percent kind of weird stuff. Yeah, the

2162
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: weird stuff.

2163
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,560
Speaker 2: So I think it's probably five or ten percent you know,

2164
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 2: weird's aspiration and then yeah, I just I cook what

2165
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 2: I like and I want, you know, And there's there's

2166
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 2: like a uh, you know, porketta, which is like an

2167
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 2: Italian staple with you know, with pork and uh, you know.

2168
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 2: So it's not like that's not you know, really anything new,

2169
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 2: but uh, it's just stuff that I like to cook.

2170
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 2: And maybe you know, somebody in uh, you know, rural

2171
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 2: Mississippi has never done a porketta, you know, so they

2172
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 2: can see that book. But it's it's again, it's not

2173
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 2: like I'm reinventing the wheel, but it's just I just

2174
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 2: want to share with people what what I like to cook,

2175
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 2: and you can use wild ingredients doing it.

2176
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 8: I'm looking at like some of the some of your

2177
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 8: barbecue recipes for instance, and you have like smoke cougar

2178
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 8: ham bear ribs. So it's like pretty cool that you know,

2179
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 8: you've got some some odd odds well not odd, but

2180
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 8: like species.

2181
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, asration.

2182
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 5: But do you then like if you can't get a cougar.

2183
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: Do it with this.

2184
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I gave uh, you know, alternative

2185
01:49:57,640 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: ingredients for cougar and you know, for a lot of

2186
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 2: the gay my publisher did ask like if you can't

2187
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: use bison and use use a grass fed beef or

2188
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But yeah, the cougar, that's it's pretty

2189
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 2: hard to you know, switch that out. You know, squirrel,

2190
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: you could switch out rabbit or something. But yeah, like

2191
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 2: for for bear ribs or you know, I guess the

2192
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 2: closest thing might be like bison ribs.

2193
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 3: That makes me want to like just think about bear

2194
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 3: the bear.

2195
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 2: They're so good. Use a sauce. All that I learned

2196
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 2: from my dear farmer. And yeah, you can just cut

2197
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 2: like whatever size you know, length the rib you want.

2198
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 2: These ones, I did probably like four or five inch

2199
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 2: cuts down the rib.

2200
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: And you're not you're leaving all the fat everything, so

2201
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 1: you're not you're just taking the hide off.

2202
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 4: You're not trimming the outer layers hide off.

2203
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: And then there's probably like a bear that was a

2204
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 2: spring bear and uh and yeah, so then I put

2205
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 2: on the smoker. You know, I had a dry rub

2206
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 2: on it, smoked it. I kind of treated it like

2207
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 2: a brisket where I you know, wanted to hit you know,

2208
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty sixty five for the stall, and

2209
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,600
Speaker 2: then I wrapped it in tinfoil just to keep that

2210
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 2: moisture in and then what and then just cook it

2211
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:09,679
Speaker 2: till like two hundred and two o five fahrenheit until

2212
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 2: you could actually like pull the bones apart.

2213
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 1: No brazing at all, just all done in the foil.

2214
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 2: All done in the foil. The bear ribs were fatty

2215
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 2: enough they didn't need to deer ribs. I'll put like

2216
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 2: a splash of beer in or something in the foil,

2217
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 2: and or I'll put it on a like I'll smoke

2218
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 2: them first to get the smoke flavor in there, and

2219
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,679
Speaker 2: then I'll put it on a baking sheet. I can add,

2220
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 2: you know, splash a beer or something, some stock, and

2221
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 2: then cover it. But it also that's the thing about

2222
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: game Meet. You know, if you shot a lean spring bear,

2223
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,719
Speaker 2: maybe you do need to use some liquid in there. Yeah,

2224
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 2: but for that one, it was you see about the picture,

2225
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 2: like it's pretty fatty. There's a good meaty it almost

2226
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 2: looks like a beef short rib. It's kind of so meaty.

2227
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2228
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 4: You know what I made Monday night that bummed me

2229
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 4: out was.

2230
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: I had this, I'd killed a pig in Texas, a

2231
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: wild pig. Yeah it was fatty, right, But there were

2232
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,560
Speaker 1: so many pigs around. You could go sneak into the

2233
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 1: you could sneak into the what they called the sounder.

2234
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: You can sneak into the little party and look for

2235
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: the fat ones. Just it was just like a freak

2236
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: thing where there was just like you never imagined you

2237
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 1: could pick fat ones out. And I had one that

2238
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: I was like, you so seldom get a wild hog

2239
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 1: was just like layered and fat, and I was so

2240
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: excited about these little ribs. I cut up the little

2241
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 1: wild hog riblet.

2242
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 6: I think I have the other half of that which

2243
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 6: I haven't cooked yet.

2244
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: Okay, well they were good, so I did a braize

2245
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 1: on them and then threw them in the oven.

2246
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 4: It's like too much of a good thing. Oh no,

2247
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 4: my kids were not into it.

2248
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Just just the cloopiest. I never thought you could have

2249
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: it be there's like two.

2250
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 5: Like it did render out or like.

2251
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 6: Glatinous.

2252
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 1: What I needed to do is put it in an

2253
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 1: oven at low heat and let that ship drip out

2254
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 1: a long time. Try out a little bit I was

2255
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 1: eating from you. I ate them and enjoyed my daughters

2256
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: like yeah, they but they don't like They don't eat

2257
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 1: a lot of they don't like real faty meat. They're

2258
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 1: just not used to it. And my kids don't either.

2259
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 2: Like kind of breaks my heart when I see people

2260
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 2: like cut the fat off a strip line and they

2261
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 2: leave it on their plate, like, oh, that's that's.

2262
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 3: The best part. If you're surprised to hear that, because

2263
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 3: my kids, you know, that's the reason they love the

2264
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 3: Mallard duck is because they're like, oh, wow, you're actually

2265
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 3: serving us something with some fat, and you know, the

2266
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 3: skin's the best part.

2267
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 1: They I don't like it all over their face. My

2268
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: wife likes you don't like it. She don't like domestic meat.

2269
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: She don't like beef steaks, she likes she don't like

2270
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 1: any of that kind of fat.

2271
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:45,559
Speaker 2: She likes it older.

2272
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 3: If you treated it more like you would treat a

2273
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 3: domestic rack of ribs, if it would have come out better.

2274
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you just smoked it, it's I treated it

2275
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 1: just like I did, just what I would do for

2276
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 1: like deer ribs, And it was just the wrong move

2277
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 1: I got after I'm gonna put him back and I'm

2278
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:02,759
Speaker 1: gonna mess with up. I haven't given up that's.

2279
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 2: The secret of cooking. When people are like, oh, how

2280
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 2: do It's like practice. You just got to practice to

2281
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 2: try new things. And you tried braising it, you know,

2282
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 2: and didn't get the same results. So it's like try

2283
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 2: straight smoking it.

2284
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going back down and I'm going back down

2285
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: to that same place and I'm gonna hunt me down

2286
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: another little fatty and I'm gonna try to do it.

2287
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 4: But you don't get a chance to practice with fat

2288
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 4: wild hogs?

2289
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 1: Is there aren't many a mountain? What Jesse Griffiths was

2290
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: Jesse Griffiths put.

2291
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 4: A number on it one time.

2292
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't him.

2293
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,679
Speaker 4: It was Remember remember I do Clayton Saunders.

2294
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: He was really good the obesity rate among wild hogs.

2295
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 6: Like, how many are fat?

2296
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 2: No?

2297
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 1: I said, that was it Clayton Saunders down in Texas.

2298
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 3: I can't remember what we're talking.

2299
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 1: I said, like of all the of all like all

2300
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: wild pigs, how many are suitable? Remember he put as

2301
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 1: he put a hog shoulder, Yeah, he put a hog

2302
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:56,879
Speaker 1: shoulder in a smoker Texas style, had a mop.

2303
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 4: And I said, how many like one out of what

2304
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 4: is suitable to do that with.

2305
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 1: The front shoulder? And I feel like he says something like, man,

2306
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: one in a hundred, Wow, I'll do that. But it

2307
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 1: wasn't that it wasn't that bad. It was bad, but

2308
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad that he would do a again.

2309
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Just to be clear that he would take a whole

2310
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 1: front leg from a wild pig and do it the

2311
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 1: way he cooked it for us, which was phenomenally. He said,

2312
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 1: it's like a one and whatever, like treating it like

2313
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: exactly and not need to bring any extra stuff to

2314
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: the show.

2315
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 7: You know, we did ribs this weekend, and I also

2316
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 7: learned a little trick for next time.

2317
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 1: Bison ribs and I brought.

2318
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 7: I had just the whole side of ribs and they're frozen,

2319
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 7: and I went to cut them up into those like

2320
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 7: five inch strips.

2321
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: Huh.

2322
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 7: And they did it in the kitchen with the saws

2323
01:55:55,440 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 7: all sure and frozen frozen little me and bone dust

2324
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 7: all over the backsplash.

2325
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: Your wife get out about stuff like that. Yeah, that

2326
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: was that was a good lesson learned. Weird mind like

2327
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: like she just doesn't man, as long as I clean

2328
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: it up. Oh yeah, I clean it up too.

2329
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 7: But it was just like this was a thing that

2330
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 7: didn't need to happen. It would have been much easier

2331
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 7: to do that, do the saws alling outside.

2332
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 1: If I didn't clean it up, I'd hear about it. Yeah,

2333
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 1: but I could cut up a person on our counter

2334
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: and she's not caring if I clean it up. Do

2335
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, no, we have

2336
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: our program's a little different. She doesn't like that kind

2337
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, it's just like, well, I'll call her,

2338
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: She'll probably hear about it.

2339
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 3: No, I think you're pushing it there with the person analogy.

2340
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 3: I think she would care.

2341
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 5: Depends on the person.

2342
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 4: If I cleaned up, I wouldn't need to hear about it.

2343
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 2: That's a secret.

2344
01:56:55,680 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: It was a secret maybe Okay, not a person. But

2345
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, not like there's like a person. There's

2346
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 1: like legal implications. What I'm saying is like, if I

2347
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: clean up, I don't need to worry about.

2348
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 4: What I do in the kitchen.

2349
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2350
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 8: And she's walking through your garage every day where there's

2351
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 8: like hides hanging, and.

2352
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just like clean clean that shit up. I

2353
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 4: don't know when you're done.

2354
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 7: That's just it might be that it might be that

2355
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 7: my my cleanup is like a ninety seven out of

2356
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 7: one hundred. You know, there's always some residual.

2357
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 1: Do you think your wife would come on the show. Yeah, happily.

2358
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 6: She's been on trivia.

2359
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 4: That'd be a great episode, man, just interview Randall's wife.

2360
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 3: Fantastic.

2361
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 5: She actually she actually uh, she.

2362
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 7: Was listening to the Trivia like the past couple of

2363
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 7: Trivia episodes, uh, the other day, and she said, what

2364
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 7: what my her new favorite game to play is instead

2365
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 7: of trying to answer the questions, it's trying to guess

2366
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 7: which one Seth gets right.

2367
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 1: That's cruel, man, like even set that well.

2368
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 7: She just sort of like she doesn't know Seth that well,

2369
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 7: but she like she listens along. She's sort of playing

2370
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 7: this meta game on top of it. It's like, based

2371
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 7: on what Seth gets wrong and right.

2372
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: Does she root for you?

2373
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 4: Do you feel?

2374
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2375
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she see you.

2376
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 8: When my wife stopped caring about trivia a long time ago,

2377
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 8: get all excited about winning, she does.

2378
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 4: She's just just clean your mess.

2379
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 1: Randall's still on the tribun still with the whole trivia thing.

2380
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like, just clean your mess up.

2381
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 2: Brother.

2382
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: I hope you have fun of trivia. What's your Uh?

2383
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 4: So that's the mix the Blende ten to fifteen.

2384
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 2: Something like that. Yeah, she just yeah, made it a

2385
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 2: point to say, you know, not too not too many

2386
01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 2: of those aspirational recipes.

2387
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 4: And then what is what do you feel is like

2388
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 4: the best?

2389
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: The best? What's the star of the show? Like in

2390
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 1: the book, what is the one? Is someone said, Hey,

2391
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cook one thing out of this book?

2392
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 2: What should I cook? That's so hard because I love

2393
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 2: you know, I love a lot of the content in there.

2394
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 2: The bear ribs. I think it is a way up there.

2395
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 2: Like I was really surprised we.

2396
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: Got off on this whole thing.

2397
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 4: Sorry, keep going on the bear ribs. You just serve

2398
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 4: them like bon on.

2399
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 2: Bon on, Yeah, uh smoked the whole time. Didn't really

2400
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 2: braise it, uh you know, dry rub and uh yeah,

2401
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 2: just phenomenal. Really really surprised how good they came out

2402
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 2: laying on a plate.

2403
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, serve them with some tangy Ksey style sauce or I.

2404
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 2: Don't know if Brodie still got that, still got the

2405
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 2: page up on the computer there, but I forget.

2406
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 1: I think I served it with that barbecue sauce. The

2407
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 1: bear ribs.

2408
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 2: I know you had listened, maybe you reading the table

2409
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 2: of content the barbecue. I forget what I I think

2410
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 2: I played it with something.

2411
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 1: It's like I never want I'm cutting up a bear.

2412
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 1: I never think to do the ribs, Like I never

2413
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 1: think to do the ribs on the bone. Yeah, most

2414
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: of the time I will cut in between the meat out.

2415
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I was on a barbecue kick

2416
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 1: and I'd shot a bear and I'm gonna do the ribs. Yeah,

2417
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that this spring. A lot of the

2418
02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: bears we deal with their coastal bears though, Yeah, and

2419
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 1: I wonder I wonder if that because it's hard to

2420
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 1: trim the fat out and that fat can be pretty fishy,

2421
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:28,080
Speaker 1: I might try it. We I was serving some of

2422
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 1: that fishy bear meat to my buddy Dirt, and I

2423
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 1: was like, problem with it. It's like it's like it's

2424
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of like it's like meat, but it's kind of

2425
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: taste like smoke fish. I love smoking.

2426
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 2: That's funny.

2427
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 8: I want to ask you about your fried perch, because

2428
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 8: I know Steve's got opinions on perch on me.

2429
02:00:55,720 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 2: I I think I use like a seasoned flower yeah,

2430
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 2: like flower fish, crispy like my corn meal. I think

2431
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 2: I I think I mix. I put some core meal

2432
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 2: in my seasoned flower.

2433
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 1: But would you say, like, in all honesty, in all honesty,

2434
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 1: just love with me, Brodie, Is this what you're going for?

2435
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 8: Oh?

2436
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this.

2437
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 1: I got a couple more questions. In all honesty, I'm

2438
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 1: no Canadian. Uh do you feel that you're from a

2439
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 1: fish fry culture?

2440
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: I would say no?

2441
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 6: No?

2442
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:33,320
Speaker 5: Do you leave the skin on the filets?

2443
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Not to fry them? If we're If I was gonna

2444
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:39,440
Speaker 2: see it without breading and stuff, I would I do

2445
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 2: like fish skin like whileye I love crispy walleye skin,

2446
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 2: say it like most fish, I leave, I scale it

2447
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:47,120
Speaker 2: and I will leave the skin on.

2448
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 4: Because when they're clarified that you're not a pitmaster, no,

2449
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

2450
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

2451
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 4: Now you see me, you're a fried man.

2452
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 1: I love.

2453
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 2: I like the find a lot of food. I think

2454
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 2: I fried more food in my life than than than

2455
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 2: legit barb cue.

2456
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: But okay, so tell me the perfect perch is wheat

2457
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 1: flour not corn meal?

2458
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 2: I use both. I mix, yeah, I do. I don't

2459
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 2: know if it's twenty five percent corn corn.

2460
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 1: You know, got corn meal, But I like that approach

2461
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 1: the corn meal flour mix because what it gives gives

2462
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 1: like like I like a real fine corn meal, but

2463
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:24,680
Speaker 1: if you can get a little, like a little bit

2464
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 1: of a medium ground, yeah, you don't get that universal coat. Right,

2465
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 1: So if you do flour, flour sticks to like it's

2466
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 1: just on there and then and then you got that

2467
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 1: corn meal, so you got like a good even coat.

2468
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 4: Then you got like a little of that texture and stuff.

2469
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2470
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to go. What do you

2471
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 1: fry and what's your oil?

2472
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 2: Lately I've been using peanut oil. I kind of save

2473
02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:52,560
Speaker 2: fat and render everything. I love frying stuff and bear fat.

2474
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 2: I think it's like the best of the best o hot.

2475
02:02:55,840 --> 02:03:01,040
Speaker 2: Do you get it around three fifty up around there?

2476
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 2: Like you know, we'll do French fries at three hundred

2477
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 2: and then to finish it like three seventy five.

2478
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 1: Do you ever make a French frying bear fat?

2479
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I've done that. Oh kid, it's really good. Bear fat,

2480
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what it is, it's like it

2481
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:14,800
Speaker 2: makes the flakiest pastry. I want to talk to a

2482
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 2: food scientist about why bear fat makes flakier pastry than

2483
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 2: like pig lard. I don't know why it is like

2484
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 2: the most incredible lard to make pastry.

2485
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, you couldn't legally, No, you probably couldn't. Like

2486
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 1: in your restaurant, you couldn't be just frying stuff and

2487
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:33,800
Speaker 1: bear fat.

2488
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 2: Probably get a lot of bears to make that work hypothetically, Yeah,

2489
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 2: I know they'd frown upon that. So you like you

2490
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 2: like to fry and peanut though at home, I fried

2491
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:45,280
Speaker 2: peanut at the restaurant, we don't, just because of the

2492
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 2: peanut allergy thing.

2493
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 1: What do you have to use in a commercial kitchen?

2494
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 2: It's not what like we could we could use. We

2495
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 2: gotta tell it, you know, we gotta be really careful

2496
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 2: we use like you know, most restaurants use canola. It's

2497
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 2: like just standard. It comes in a big box with

2498
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:02,560
Speaker 2: a jug and it's you know.

2499
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:05,520
Speaker 1: Do you ever fry in beef tallow in your restaurant.

2500
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 2: I've never fried with it. I've used it in potatoes,

2501
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 2: like to roast potatoes and stuff and like you know,

2502
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 2: brush based stuff with and whatever, but I've never actually

2503
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 2: filled the fryer with beef tallow. Yeah.

2504
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:19,839
Speaker 1: Have you ever hung out with Jesse Griffiths?

2505
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 2: I So I was going to tell you because last

2506
02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 2: time I was on the show. I'd never heard of him,

2507
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 2: and you told me to look him up, and I'd

2508
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 2: been following him for the last four years and then

2509
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 2: I just met him at n WTF show.

2510
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 1: Ok.

2511
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there with his new Turkey book.

2512
02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 1: Dude, you guys, I feel like you guys, like you

2513
02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:36,400
Speaker 1: guys be like nuts on a dog.

2514
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 6: Screwed the whole thing up because he was here the

2515
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 6: other like where.

2516
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: Ship's passing, but where we're going to make plans to

2517
02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 1: hang out and if you guys went to if you

2518
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:47,840
Speaker 1: went to each other's restaurants and stuff, you guys would

2519
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 1: be like you guys would be like best friends.

2520
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah we we We kind of became best friends of

2521
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 2: the show. So we're gonna trying to do some stuff together.

2522
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 4: I feel like you guys would have a great time

2523
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 4: hanging out.

2524
02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 2: His books really cool books.

2525
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 1: If you ask him about frying stuff and what grease

2526
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 1: he uses, he'll not say, no opinion.

2527
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he said he likes the be fat.

2528
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:10,360
Speaker 1: Dude. Really, when they do their Friday fish fries at

2529
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:15,000
Speaker 1: at Die do A, they when they do their fish fries, they.

2530
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 2: Do their fish fries and be fat. That's funny, that's cool.

2531
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 2: I find. I was like, it's not waxy, but it's

2532
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 2: so much thicker than like.

2533
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny about is I keep it

2534
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 1: in my fryer, but I keep my fryer outside by

2535
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 1: keeping loading be fat and in the winter, like we

2536
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 1: just had like negative twenty, Yeah, a rock.

2537
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 4: And like you turn that thing on, you've turned on

2538
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 4: in the morning.

2539
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 6: Man.

2540
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 1: Really, I think those I think those heating elements get

2541
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of that ship liquified, but it takes

2542
02:05:47,080 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 1: a while to bring that back to really yeah, when

2543
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:51,560
Speaker 1: it's just frozen, like yeah, you know, I've never done

2544
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:55,520
Speaker 1: a whole pot of beef. I definitely definitely will give

2545
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 1: that shot. What else is in the what? What else

2546
02:05:58,400 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 1: is in the book do you think of as a highlight?

2547
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,160
Speaker 1: You like the bear ribs, the bear ribs? Definitely.

2548
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 2: The fishing part was there's a lot of fish stuff,

2549
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 2: and and there's I started spearfishing recently, so there's some

2550
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:14,080
Speaker 2: spearfishing stuff in there. Yeah, just just just over the

2551
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 2: fire thing is prevalent through the whole book. So if

2552
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 2: you're interested in in fire cooking, it's there's some there's

2553
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:22,280
Speaker 2: some how to stuff, you know, different types of fire setups. Yeah,

2554
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:25,400
Speaker 2: and uh, you know it doesn't have to You don't

2555
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 2: have to buy a five thousand dollars smoker. You can

2556
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 2: make one with cinderblox.

2557
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 6: You know.

2558
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 1: So if there's a let's say this, there's a dude

2559
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: that fishes, what's the one hot tip you could give

2560
02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:37,280
Speaker 1: a guy that fishes, Yeah, to leave brownie. Yeah, we're

2561
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 1: gonna wrap up, but go ahead.

2562
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:43,320
Speaker 2: I would say, just you know, try doing something different.

2563
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 2: You know, if if you always take the skin off,

2564
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:47,720
Speaker 2: you know, try leaving the skin on and frying it,

2565
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 2: you know, and then in a cast iron pan.

2566
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 1: You know.

2567
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 2: Just uh, there's all kinds of stuff I like to

2568
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 2: just you know, teach people about how to get more

2569
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 2: out of their out of their game, whether it's you know,

2570
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:02,240
Speaker 2: bear ribs where a lot of a lot of guys

2571
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 2: leave that stuff, or you know, shanks. So many times

2572
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 2: I've cooked shanks for outfitters and they're like, we've been

2573
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 2: feeding these to our dogs for twenty years, you know,

2574
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 2: and they just and and one of them, their wife said,

2575
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:17,680
Speaker 2: if you can make a ruddy meal, deer shanks taste

2576
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 2: good like you're welcome anytime, And she couldn't believe it.

2577
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 2: I took the saws on and cut you know, two

2578
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 2: inch also buco cuts out of the meal deer I shot,

2579
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 2: and like she was dumbfounded that they weren't you know, stinky.

2580
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 3: So you could cut up any part of that animal

2581
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 3: and cooked it up, made it good.

2582
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, the fishing.

2583
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 2: So to get back on the what would I recommend

2584
02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 2: the fishing guide, It's it's like, what what's out of

2585
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 2: the realm of you know, what's out of their comfort zone,

2586
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 2: and try and teach them something to do that's just

2587
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 2: do something new. Yeah, like if they fry everything all

2588
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 2: the time, then try grilling it, or try pants hearing,

2589
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:54,480
Speaker 2: or just try something different.

2590
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 3: Have you found that odd because you came to hunting

2591
02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:01,600
Speaker 3: a little bit later in life, right like when you

2592
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 3: first sort of became aware of this idea that there's

2593
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 3: a lot of hunters out there that aren't using the

2594
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 3: whole animal, or maybe even not using an entire animal,

2595
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:17,160
Speaker 3: because there's this idea that oh rutted up mulder about

2596
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:20,200
Speaker 3: can't taste good because it's been eaten sage, or the

2597
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 3: prong horn has been eaten sage and it's going to

2598
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 3: be sagey or the thing now that I keep coming

2599
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:27,200
Speaker 3: back to that we experienced a bunch this winter. Is

2600
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 3: the ducks that one hundred years ago we nearly extirpated

2601
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 3: the damn things across our country, and now we shoot

2602
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 3: them literally just for fun. And multiple outfits have told

2603
02:08:37,560 --> 02:08:40,800
Speaker 3: me that ninety plus percent of their clients would just

2604
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 3: leave the ducks with them if they were legally allowed to.

2605
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:45,960
Speaker 1: And they were wiped out to go into restaurants.

2606
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were wiped out not because we enjoyed shooting them,

2607
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 3: but because we enjoyed eating them so much. So, like

2608
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 3: when you encountered this as an adult, like what was

2609
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 3: your take on that?

2610
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 2: It just blew my mind. You know the family friend

2611
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 2: that took me turkey honey for the first time, you know,

2612
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,000
Speaker 2: I saw the way he cleaned his bird. He skinned it,

2613
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:08,680
Speaker 2: cut out the breast, and chucked the rest into the woods.

2614
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, no, no, like, can you

2615
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:12,840
Speaker 2: show me how to pluck this? And he like was

2616
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:16,520
Speaker 2: like annoyed, and it was like okay, and he goes, oh, no,

2617
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:17,840
Speaker 2: don't eat the legs. You can't eat the legs. I

2618
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:19,000
Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean you can't eat the legs.

2619
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, they're tough.

2620
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:20,720
Speaker 1: Like like I'll die.

2621
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he's like yeah, but you know he was

2622
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 2: like a forty five year old Englishman that his whole life,

2623
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 2: you know, and he's not a chef, so you know,

2624
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:31,840
Speaker 2: telling him to braize it, he'd be like what, like

2625
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 2: how long?

2626
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 1: Like five hours?

2627
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 6: No?

2628
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 3: Like so you know, I get it.

2629
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:38,680
Speaker 2: I just get a kick out of, you know, teaching

2630
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 2: people how to do it, you know, and it's really

2631
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 2: not that hard and it doesn't take that much extra

2632
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 2: time and you just shot this turkey and now you

2633
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 2: keep in these legs that are like three to four

2634
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:51,520
Speaker 2: pounds of extra meat and it's usually well received. You know,

2635
02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:54,280
Speaker 2: people are generally surprised in a good way.

2636
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:58,320
Speaker 3: And it's going to a reason to why it's become

2637
02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:00,880
Speaker 3: this way. Is it because like him, it's a lack

2638
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:01,760
Speaker 3: of cooking skill.

2639
02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 2: I definitely like and just culture, like you grew up

2640
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 2: hunting with your dad and your grandfather, and you guys

2641
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 2: shoot bears as a nuisance and you can't eat bear,

2642
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:14,440
Speaker 2: that's what you're told. Like I went the first time.

2643
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:16,840
Speaker 2: The first time is probably one of like third or

2644
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 2: fourth bears that I ever killed. I went to a

2645
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:22,520
Speaker 2: friend's hunting camp in Alberta, and every single person at

2646
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 2: that camp had never eaten bear before. But they were

2647
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 2: at a bear hunting camp and they're just there to

2648
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 2: have fun and shoot a bear and they keep Legally,

2649
02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 2: you have to keep them the fur, Alberti, you don't

2650
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 2: have to eat the meat, and they just yeah, they

2651
02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:37,400
Speaker 2: just grew up thinking that you can't eat bear. So

2652
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:40,080
Speaker 2: I did bear shanks. I put it in a a

2653
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 2: croc pot by the fire. I think this one's actually

2654
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:43,600
Speaker 2: in the book too. It served on a paper plate

2655
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:45,120
Speaker 2: because it was at the camp. It was pretty cool.

2656
02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:48,240
Speaker 2: And I did like polenta, like kind of like grit style,

2657
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:51,480
Speaker 2: and it was like bear shank regu and plent i

2658
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:55,080
Speaker 2: like cheap cream or not cheddar cheese plenta. I think

2659
02:10:55,880 --> 02:10:58,480
Speaker 2: it's like they're they were. They couldn't believe they were

2660
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,160
Speaker 2: just like, we've been hunting bear a whole life, never

2661
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 2: eaten it.

2662
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 4: That's Lord's work right there, man.

2663
02:11:02,160 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah.

2664
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,840
Speaker 2: Actually I had this conversation with Cal when we were

2665
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:08,600
Speaker 2: turkey hunting out, you know, with Danielle a few years back,

2666
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 2: and he said, as an outfitter, other guides would get

2667
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 2: pissed off when clients wanted to eat what because that's

2668
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:17,280
Speaker 2: way more work now for the guides.

2669
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:20,080
Speaker 1: Me and Cal cooked bear meat for a bear guide

2670
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:22,440
Speaker 1: who was blown away.

2671
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah that it was good.

2672
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

2673
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 3: Was that in Jeff's camp? Yeah, we made a right. Yeah.

2674
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 2: The other thing that's pint too is in is in Texas.

2675
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 2: Those old boys like you shoot a pig that's over,

2676
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and fifty pounds, like, you can't

2677
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:39,320
Speaker 2: eat that? Yeah, sure, you know, Oh you can't eat that.

2678
02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 2: Get that out of the skinning shit, it's gonna stink

2679
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 2: us up. Like they were adamant that I couldn't eat

2680
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 2: this hog I shot and it wasn't that big, you know,

2681
02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 2: And they said, oh, that shoulder plate, you know, it's

2682
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 2: a that's that's a what do they call it? Like

2683
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 2: it's full of testosterone, like it's it's a mature male.

2684
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:54,920
Speaker 1: You can't man.

2685
02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2686
02:11:55,720 --> 02:11:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2687
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 2: And then so I put that thing in a smoke.

2688
02:11:57,880 --> 02:11:59,920
Speaker 2: I brinded over and I did it, I quartered it,

2689
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 2: I brinded overnight. Then I put a dry rub on

2690
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 2: it and I put it in a smoker all day

2691
02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 2: and they loved it. And they were like, what what

2692
02:12:08,440 --> 02:12:09,880
Speaker 2: is this? I was like, Oh, this that hock you

2693
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 2: told me I couldn't eat.

2694
02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:13,080
Speaker 4: I never thought that you could boost your tea with

2695
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 4: just eating hog.

2696
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we learned when we trapped all those hogs.

2697
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:23,040
Speaker 3: I forget who told us, cause we're the one fella

2698
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 3: we were with was trapping them and then selling them live,

2699
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:29,000
Speaker 3: you know, just like your farmer guys do. And uh

2700
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:32,520
Speaker 3: that the the big hogs like that because there's that

2701
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 3: because of that plate and all, there's actually less yield

2702
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:38,920
Speaker 3: and so the price is more expensive per pound. But

2703
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:41,920
Speaker 3: over in Europe they actually pay more for it because

2704
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 3: they prefer interesting, high flavor.

2705
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:46,800
Speaker 1: I think it's how he there's a there's a skin

2706
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:50,080
Speaker 1: and trick on those son of a guns too. Yeah.

2707
02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:51,000
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna wrap up.

2708
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 4: But okay, picture you got him hanging by let's say

2709
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:55,640
Speaker 4: we let's say he's hanging.

2710
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:58,920
Speaker 1: By his hind hogs. Yeah okay, and you're pulling the

2711
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:01,640
Speaker 1: hide down when you get to the when you get

2712
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:04,160
Speaker 1: to the shield, the shield doesn't roll.

2713
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 4: It's like a dead end street. It's alsodden like the

2714
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:08,840
Speaker 4: hides pulling over the ribs and it hits the.

2715
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 1: Shield and you can't budget like it won't roll over.

2716
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 1: So they take the picture again. He's hanging from his hocks.

2717
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 4: You run a couple vertical You run a couple vertical.

2718
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:27,120
Speaker 1: Cuts through the shield. Okay, so that the shield is

2719
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:31,720
Speaker 1: now basically running in parallel vertical strips three or four

2720
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 1: inches wide. Those will roll.

2721
02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:34,800
Speaker 2: Interesting.

2722
02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:38,920
Speaker 4: But also right down that noise I made was speed.

2723
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 1: That noise I made it was meant to denote speed.

2724
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:45,960
Speaker 4: Skin speed, skin. Yeah, it was genius. That's genius.

2725
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:47,960
Speaker 1: Don't you remember that right there?

2726
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:50,440
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. Do we cover that in that episode?

2727
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 2: And he just did it from the top, like from

2728
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:53,760
Speaker 2: through the fur kind of thing.

2729
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:56,240
Speaker 1: He just got down to that shield and then just

2730
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 1: gash the cut the shield in the slits and you

2731
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:02,320
Speaker 1: can skinny slip down. The whole thing won't roll.

2732
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Clayton, there.

2733
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 4: Was those boys that were showing us that.

2734
02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:09,480
Speaker 3: I feel like we made a mistake. We didn't include

2735
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 3: that in that episode.

2736
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:12,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it was hanging out with some different Texas dudes,

2737
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:18,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think so. Maybe Jesse showed me that.

2738
02:14:18,520 --> 02:14:21,200
Speaker 1: Maybe either way, A little tripped.

2739
02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:24,400
Speaker 2: Tip tip hot Tip's good one, all right, man.

2740
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:26,240
Speaker 4: So they can find you at your restaurant. Go to

2741
02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:27,560
Speaker 4: Antler's in Toronto, yep.

2742
02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:31,560
Speaker 2: Antler restaurant Toronto at the Hunter Chef dot com. We'll

2743
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:35,360
Speaker 2: post a pre sale link for the book. There's like

2744
02:14:35,480 --> 02:14:37,680
Speaker 2: you know, Indigo chapters all those stores, but I'll put

2745
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:39,680
Speaker 2: the main kind of pre sale link on my website.

2746
02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:42,160
Speaker 1: You can buy the book in the store, I hope.

2747
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the books are available in the restaurant. We ship

2748
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:48,600
Speaker 2: signed copies from the restaurant and buy them on Amazon.

2749
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:51,920
Speaker 2: Amazon has been great, buy them at bookstores, all bookstores.

2750
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:56,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah, man, good luck

2751
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:56,360
Speaker 2: with it.

2752
02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:59,640
Speaker 3: Next time we're in Michigan, maybe we ought to just

2753
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:01,320
Speaker 3: bop over the bridge.

2754
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:05,240
Speaker 1: I think it's like three hours, yeah, three hours.

2755
02:15:05,320 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not far.

2756
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:08,640
Speaker 3: Do you guys ever do three hours from Detroit?

2757
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Detroy, It that's quick. Yeah.

2758
02:15:11,080 --> 02:15:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to have you guys. It'd be great.

2759
02:15:14,080 --> 02:15:14,600
Speaker 1: That'd be fun.

2760
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you come up anytime in a season, we

2761
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:19,440
Speaker 2: could shoot some ducks or turkeys or whatever.

2762
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder how hard it be to get a

2763
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:22,600
Speaker 3: turkey license over the area.

2764
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have some of the non resident Joe blow Americans.

2765
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:28,400
Speaker 2: Because it's like over everything's over the counter, except for

2766
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:30,760
Speaker 2: maybe moose. Is difficult. As a nonresident, I have to

2767
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:33,560
Speaker 2: look into that one. But turkeys, deer docks, everything's over

2768
02:15:33,600 --> 02:15:35,200
Speaker 2: the counter, non resident.

2769
02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:39,280
Speaker 3: If we annex Canada, it's going to change the whole

2770
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:41,960
Speaker 3: chasing fifty, you know, because.

2771
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:44,720
Speaker 4: One here's the thing they hadn't thought about when they

2772
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:46,240
Speaker 4: go annex Canada. I was reading this.

2773
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna we're gonna take it over and make it

2774
02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:51,240
Speaker 1: a new state. But it's gonna be a blue state.

2775
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:56,040
Speaker 1: They hadn't thought about that. It's a blue state. So

2776
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,200
Speaker 1: here's yeah, so here are the.

2777
02:15:59,440 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 3: Right and left of our.

2778
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:03,400
Speaker 6: Bit.

2779
02:16:03,560 --> 02:16:05,880
Speaker 1: I haven't thought of that. Yeah, now they're all voting

2780
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:07,720
Speaker 1: for Democrats. I wouldn't If I'd have known that, I

2781
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have invaded them. And you gotta take you gotta

2782
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:13,680
Speaker 1: take Quebec with it too. I love Quebec. But I'm

2783
02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:16,400
Speaker 1: just saying, yeah, they have French people. They have a

2784
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:18,560
Speaker 1: whole lot of French people there too. Yeah, it's careful

2785
02:16:18,600 --> 02:16:23,480
Speaker 1: what you wish for. Invade Canada, man, Yeah, I hope

2786
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:26,960
Speaker 1: it don't get tense between us if that happens. No, okay,

2787
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:27,800
Speaker 1: we'll stay friendly.

2788
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:28,600
Speaker 2: I love the States.

2789
02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:31,800
Speaker 4: So thanks for coming on. Tell everybody the name of

2790
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:32,160
Speaker 4: your book.

2791
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:36,040
Speaker 2: Uh, the it's Hunter Chef in the wild. Uh, so

2792
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 2: available at the hunter chef dot com. I'm the hunter

2793
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:41,880
Speaker 2: Chef dot or at the Hunter Chef everywhere. Uh and

2794
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:44,360
Speaker 2: all the socials for the restaurant or antler, kitchen bar.

2795
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:48,240
Speaker 1: I want to go to that restaurant. We'll check it out.

2796
02:16:48,920 --> 02:16:50,520
Speaker 2: Good. We're an hour and a half from Buffalo. If

2797
02:16:50,520 --> 02:16:55,320
Speaker 2: you guys ever do a show people like tell people

2798
02:16:55,360 --> 02:16:57,640
Speaker 2: that they're like heads explode, like what I'm like, Yeah.

2799
02:16:57,720 --> 02:16:58,600
Speaker 1: An hour and a half.

2800
02:17:00,160 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 4: Up there for dinner.

2801
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, we do we get We get folks from Buffalo.

2802
02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:08,560
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm not like taking myself out of it, but

2803
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:12,119
Speaker 3: I think we as Americans. That's like our geography ends

2804
02:17:12,879 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 3: in two places, the north and South down.

2805
02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:19,080
Speaker 4: I can't remember whose quote it was, but there was

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Speaker 4: a quote. Is war is how Americans learned geography.

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Speaker 1: So coming up Americans will have a very good sense

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Speaker 1: of the Canadian jograh. All right, thanks coming on, appreciate

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Speaker 1: Thanks Michael, Thanks guys,