WEBVTT - Rico Love Interview

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<v Speaker 1>Realty, but real celebrity. Join the Breakfast Morning. Everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Envy, Angela, Ye, Charloman the guy. We are the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club special guests in the building. Mister Rico love

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<v Speaker 1>listen Rico produces everything. Everything go out there. He was

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<v Speaker 1>taking pictures up and he was like, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>that pictures sits down here he goes, Yo, this position right,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's got that's got to be kind of difficult

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<v Speaker 1>reco you can wow, you know what's crazy. I never

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<v Speaker 1>even noticed that. Just that's crazy. I do do that

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<v Speaker 1>about every situation. I always just like, it's my posture right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you do interviews everything about you know, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>lighting right, And I always tell them like I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that light moved by accident. I know you walked back,

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<v Speaker 1>you hit the light. I don't know if you want

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<v Speaker 1>that to be hit like that. Oh no, it's no

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<v Speaker 1>good detail. Absolutely, let me tell you something. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dark skinned, so we could come up real crazy

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<v Speaker 1>on camera. We got to make sure every little part,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Let's put some lotion on

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<v Speaker 1>and that helps. That helps. Do Some people take that

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<v Speaker 1>as controlling, though I don't. I never noticed it as

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<v Speaker 1>much you know. Now, until you just said that, I

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<v Speaker 1>never noticed it. But I don't know how people take it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what creatives, I think they respected like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who um knows you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>what he's talking about. And I love that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, i'd be around and I, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like pay attention to little things, and I pick

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<v Speaker 1>up on little things, and you know, I listened. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I overhear you talking about a lens or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that or different things, then next time I'm somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>or something like, yo, I don't know, but maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>should use another lens because I know those type of

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<v Speaker 1>lens get some fall because I would heard somebody saying

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, wow, you know you pick up

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<v Speaker 1>on that everything. Yeah, And I always and I always

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<v Speaker 1>ask questions. If I see a film on myself and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking in a certain way, I'm like, why is that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we shot with the wide and we should have

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<v Speaker 1>went closer on the zoom. So now I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>learned that, So next time around, I'm like, yo, don't

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<v Speaker 1>shoot me on the on the wide, shoot me on

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<v Speaker 1>the zoom. Information never hurt nobody, man, it never It

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<v Speaker 1>never does. But you don't work aholic? Yeah, man, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how do you work so hard as dud?

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<v Speaker 1>Spend time with your family? Let me I tell your

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<v Speaker 1>story which impressed me. Flew out to Miami and I

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<v Speaker 1>spent the day with Rico, right, and me and Rico

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<v Speaker 1>went to the store one shop and came back and

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, in twenty minutes, he completed about tim

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<v Speaker 1>tongs in twenty minutes, No, lie, And these were impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, light it up online. Ay, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a hook. Did the hook twenty minutes. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't full songs. It was these concepts, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>laying ideas. I lay a verse on this one, an

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<v Speaker 1>idea to this one. All right, this the next one,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a hook on this one. Lay a hook

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<v Speaker 1>idea on this one. Because I don't write anything, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I just listened to the music and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like not saying wow, because sometimes it's terrible, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes good. Just I never I never try to let

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<v Speaker 1>you hear the terrible. Like there was like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>shout the fat like your fat Joe wants to record.

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<v Speaker 1>I I got one record for fat Joe. Boom all

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<v Speaker 1>I said that to Joe all right, yo, every this record.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was just like that. I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying there, like this mother effort is really now. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the song that you did for Envy. From the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I heard now, I was gonna say, was

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<v Speaker 1>it just him sending you that one or was it

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<v Speaker 1>I caught Envy personally said this is your record. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I don't do I don't do records and

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<v Speaker 1>um throwaways. I never do records like I don't shop music.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, a lot of people produces, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is lesson to a lot of guys. You'll make

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<v Speaker 1>if you you'll keep yourself a way more exclusive, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't send everybody the same record. I would never

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<v Speaker 1>insult Envy like that and send him a record and

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<v Speaker 1>then he go play for somebody and they're like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said that. He said that to me. I got

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind, Embo. So what I do is, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be in a studio and I'll be selective. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even I'll do twenty songs and within a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't shop any of them, and it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>months ago by nobody has ever heard them. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I get in a studio with somebody and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think this will work for you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I believe in collecting catalog and collecting music

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<v Speaker 1>and not whoring yourself out because that way you become

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<v Speaker 1>more exclusive, and then you'll end up with way more

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<v Speaker 1>songs on other artists because you feel they'll feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they feel special, like this record was created for me

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<v Speaker 1>or with me and mine. There's only one wack part

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<v Speaker 1>about the Evy record, and that's the part where it

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<v Speaker 1>says DJ Envy in the beginning. That's like a classic

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<v Speaker 1>I G I love it's about reco to. It is

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really stress artists, and I you know I

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<v Speaker 1>have that problem because I can't stress an artists. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't call an artists a million times. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>that same thing. Why is that with you? Because you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, look, if I ask you one time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your word. If you don't do by your word

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<v Speaker 1>or store with you anymore ever. And I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>I got a problem with you when I see you

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<v Speaker 1>as love, but it's just on a on a business

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna actually do anything for me. Ever. If

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<v Speaker 1>you noticed all of my singles, I never had features.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it took everything in me to get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ushering with Kalipha on the remix. That's just one of

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<v Speaker 1>my best friends. Because you would produce a songwriter, So

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<v Speaker 1>why couldn't return the favor? You would think, Bro, you

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<v Speaker 1>got people who won't even tweet for you. Bro, you

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<v Speaker 1>got people who and I don't ask, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just know if I if I give you

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<v Speaker 1>the number one record number in the studio with you

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<v Speaker 1>and we made millions together, you would think I got

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<v Speaker 1>an album coming out and these guys will call you

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, congratulations on the album. But put that

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and something get my followers up. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know what with Kalipha was gonna talk about on the

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody else? I have an idea, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the reason I called him. And that's just

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, you know. I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people try to make it saying like, no, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>call you just because of what you're going through. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the time to call you. When people when we

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<v Speaker 1>when we make records about getting money, nobody has a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with saying, oh, well, you can relate to get money.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know you went through some serious heartbreak. This

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<v Speaker 1>song is about heartbreak, talk about it? Why not? Because

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<v Speaker 1>men are so comfortable talking about we get money and

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<v Speaker 1>we win in and this this and then and pop

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<v Speaker 1>that and shake that. But we don't express pain. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't express fear, we don't express remorse because we feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's weak. But I always tell people honesty is

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<v Speaker 1>the most strong thing a man could be. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>honest about who you are, you know, how could you

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<v Speaker 1>sleep at night when you tell the truth? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, You're like, it's like a weight off you.

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<v Speaker 1>You felt like you got that off. So um, I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like it was meant for him to get

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<v Speaker 1>on that record. You do have songs about heartbreak and remorse.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever cry when you're writing any songs? Never? Never?

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you know I don't. I'm not against cry.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know I haven't cried in like a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not against anybody that cries a baby the

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<v Speaker 1>baby's born. No, I haven't cried yet. See what even

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<v Speaker 1>when my son. When my son was born, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I cried when he was like three months because I

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<v Speaker 1>just stare at him when he's sleeping and he just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get emotional or like, um, little things they

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<v Speaker 1>do when they call you and be like, you know, daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>when are you gonna Why does mommy have a different

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<v Speaker 1>last name than us? You know you're like that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>made me get married. Yeah, those type of things. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh man, the only thing that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the main one you just thought about that like old,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the main ones. Like that hurt feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>like because you have got no answer for all you

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<v Speaker 1>ladies out there if you want to figure out, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the script to tell your kids. Now. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to you with these artists, because I find

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<v Speaker 1>it very disrespectful that none of these guys would show

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<v Speaker 1>you the same respect. I'm sure that he didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>none of them. I mean some of them do. But

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<v Speaker 1>what it is is like this, right, Um, You'll see

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<v Speaker 1>people out and you're like, um, one thing I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>this is rand I got to say shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Kali because he's the best at this, the best

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<v Speaker 1>at Fat Joe and DJ Kalt I think called in

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<v Speaker 1>all respect and I think he would admit this he

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<v Speaker 1>learned it from from Fat Joe, who was the president

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<v Speaker 1>of YO. Run down on Homeboy and make sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the record, because I remember and Fat Joe at

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<v Speaker 1>one point was like one of my closest friends in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole entire world, right, So Machow and this me

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe were really close at the time, really really closer.

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<v Speaker 1>And Macha was sitting in the studio like like DEEPO

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for me to do the verse. I'm like, bo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it, and my show would be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna wait for you. And that's the type of

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<v Speaker 1>thing and you gotta respect that because their mentality is

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<v Speaker 1>get it done. I don't care how it makes you feel.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how uncomfortable it is or how for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just my pride ego. It's not because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like if I ask you to do

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<v Speaker 1>something for me. And and by the way, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to understand how this game is set up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time where producers and writers when I charge

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<v Speaker 1>a flat rate of fifty thousand for a track and

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<v Speaker 1>then I do a record for whatever person, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, well, since we get in two records, can

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<v Speaker 1>we get them you know, two for sixty can we

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<v Speaker 1>get two? Can we work this deal out and do

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<v Speaker 1>this whatever? And you're like, man, of course, because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't about that. It's really about to get in

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<v Speaker 1>the music out. And that's why I've been able to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a certain amount of records out at one time,

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<v Speaker 1>because I always was working deals with people. So I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, if I work to deal for you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an unwritten rule like we have when I come back

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<v Speaker 1>around it's love and it's love and I'm not asking anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even ask people to get on my records

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe it's impossible for an artist to get

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<v Speaker 1>other artists, other people in the world to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know them if they surrounding themselves with people they are

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<v Speaker 1>already familiar with it already. It bugs me out when

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<v Speaker 1>an artist has like, only got one verse on their record.

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<v Speaker 1>They got somebody featured on the hook and then another

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<v Speaker 1>person rapping. Bro, you got one verse on your own single?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you expect people to know you? Even if

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<v Speaker 1>your record does super well, You do shows everywhere. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would I buy your record when I really don't truly

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<v Speaker 1>identify with who you are? And that goes in content

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But with me, I'll say this, I did

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<v Speaker 1>that for you, and that should be a solid And

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<v Speaker 1>then later I should come back and say and I

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<v Speaker 1>have simple things and he knows me, I'll say, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>post this for me on your joint. You know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got you nothing. Then my company, everybody's calling me,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody works for me is telling me bro calling back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not calling no grown man back about it right now?

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing I think I like the way call

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<v Speaker 1>them do things. Sometimes you gotta let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, let me tell you, and let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you. The follow through is one thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when you see me out again, I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something. If I'm make a mistake and forget something.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I see you, I'm like, I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, let me do it right now. Like

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<v Speaker 1>since I just saw you, let me knock that out

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<v Speaker 1>for you right now. But you know, and and again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anybody this is all, you know, fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anybody think I'm looking at these guys

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<v Speaker 1>like f them. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know I'm not gonna put myself in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where I gotta keep asking you for something, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, called and um Joe, they like, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, They like, we need to get this done.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at how it benefits the artists

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<v Speaker 1>usually that they do the stuff for. Think about if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody whom Kali has done a record with or put

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<v Speaker 1>on his record, it really it benefits both benefits Kalid

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<v Speaker 1>and it benefits the artists. You got a free marketing

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for him to market your record and work. And

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<v Speaker 1>now when you see, I'm sure, but he leans, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, the newer artists are actually a lot harder

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<v Speaker 1>for him to get than the more established. Really, but

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps going and he but guess what, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you they're gonna do it. I bet you you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit there in the studio and make sure they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet he's gonna call him every time. If Kali

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<v Speaker 1>got to go a hold everybody, I need all my

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<v Speaker 1>followers to tweet blah blah blah and let him know

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<v Speaker 1>he don't care. Like a different code with these newer artists,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they don't have the same kind of way that

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<v Speaker 1>they were. Oh, let me tell you something, these new

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<v Speaker 1>artists got it all figured out too. By the way

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<v Speaker 1>they think they know everything. Can nobody tell them none?

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<v Speaker 1>Can nobody tell them what what's right or what's wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>And they never had extreme success. The best part about

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<v Speaker 1>my career was I started off with Usher, So I

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<v Speaker 1>start off for Usher. During confessions, you understand when when

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<v Speaker 1>Usher was shut down malls, like when he was shut

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<v Speaker 1>down whole blocks and streets, it was ridiculous, and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be in Paris somewhere and it'd be like whole everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you go be just in Detroit and the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that happened. So these artists, they'll get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of attention and they have a semi hit you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean and exactly, and then they'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>can nobody tell me nothing about a record? About music?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at your discography and you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably could though you know I probably could tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something because I've consistently been able to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just let these people in time or run

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<v Speaker 1>this course and you see what happens. How does that

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<v Speaker 1>work with the artists that are signed to you? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I know you know obviously you and Tierra Thomas are

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<v Speaker 1>not working together anymore, and you had different ideas on

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<v Speaker 1>where her career should go. Was it a problem where

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of felt like she knew and you know

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't know. What it is is that, um, First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, she one of the most talented people I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever met in my life, and that's saying a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most talented writers, really brilliant. But what

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<v Speaker 1>happened was when I signed that she was writing a

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<v Speaker 1>certain type of songs and I signed on it's like

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<v Speaker 1>if I married you because I thought you were this way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as soon as we got married, things changed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when um, I think, um, it's safe to

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<v Speaker 1>say everybody knows about the whole situation she was going

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<v Speaker 1>through with the wile and everything. I think it put

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<v Speaker 1>her in a real dark space. Imagine you a sweet girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know from Indianapolis, and you you get on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and every day you get on Instagram and Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>people are like calling you names and bashing you and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even know the details or anything. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy. And now this is not me, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's been in the game twelve years and seeing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I can handle that stuff, you know, But a girl

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<v Speaker 1>who's like, I can't believe I didn't bother nobody. I

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't do anything wrong, and these people are really

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<v Speaker 1>coming at me crazy enough every single day. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it put her in a dark space over her writing

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned and when she wrote songs like gang Signs

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<v Speaker 1>and popular are in Bad when I signed her. So

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<v Speaker 1>then later she started writing different type of records that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think were um superstar calible records for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was bigger than the songs she was writing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a girl who's super talents could write anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just my opinion of it. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want anybody to take this as

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<v Speaker 1>meet this and them, because I could never do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never. I came on this same show and

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<v Speaker 1>fought in the offended her. So if I can't win

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<v Speaker 1>the show and try to dis how crazy would that

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<v Speaker 1>make me? No? No, no no, no no no, I said

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<v Speaker 1>that she. I think they put her in a dark

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<v Speaker 1>space because you were her biggest champion. You were debuting

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<v Speaker 1>news sounds. You're like, I want to make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>debut her anytime. I was like, I was fighting with

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<v Speaker 1>the company. I need her on to remix. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want her hund remix but they don't know. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, this is my biggest, biggest record, number two

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. I'm not gonna put my artists on it.

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<v Speaker 1>These are type of things that I was going in

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<v Speaker 1>for spending. We we spent you know, a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on her and on a roll out without

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<v Speaker 1>even putting having a chance to really put out a record.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I think that our visions changed. The one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about me is I know how it feels to

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<v Speaker 1>be an artist, and I know how it feels to

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<v Speaker 1>be pressured. And I said, you know what, I never

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in a situation where I'm forcing you

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<v Speaker 1>to do nothing and we don't like each other. So

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<v Speaker 1>instead of me saying you don't want to do what

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<v Speaker 1>I do, shelfer until she get her mind right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm owing you father, no, let you go free.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in that situation. Even though people around me was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to get this, you need to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, but but I don't have I'm not mad

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<v Speaker 1>at I just don't agree with what she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>She don't agree with what I want her to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know is that what she wanted though, or

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<v Speaker 1>did she want to try to still come out but

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<v Speaker 1>still have it her way, or did she want to

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<v Speaker 1>just not be signed anymore. I don't know. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even I'm gonna be honest with you. I hadn't to

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<v Speaker 1>be totally honest. I didn't have a conversation with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I just told you know, I just said, I asked

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<v Speaker 1>in the scope, you know, I said, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's gonna work out what y'all like to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it? Because I don't even want to try to

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<v Speaker 1>box her out. I didn't want to say, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dropping in, y'all, can I said, what y'all like to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it and go straight through in the scope and

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<v Speaker 1>they said no, And I said, cool, Well, then give

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<v Speaker 1>her release. Let her do a thing. If she feels

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<v Speaker 1>like she knows her in her management feel like they know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do that. Because I don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where I'm holding anybody down and making them

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<v Speaker 1>feel away. You know, do your thing. But what I do,

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<v Speaker 1>what I do is and I'm gonna be And that

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<v Speaker 1>probably makes me the worst because I've had artists before

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<v Speaker 1>and they all no artists ever can walk around and

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<v Speaker 1>say Rico Love did me wrong or Rico did anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at how close me and young Chris saw,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I took care of young Chris. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I got young Chris. I

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<v Speaker 1>got young Chris an apartment in Miami, and young Chris

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<v Speaker 1>did not come to the apartment one time, one time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's my brother. We could share those

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<v Speaker 1>types of but because I think what happens is you

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<v Speaker 1>surround yourself with people, you know what I mean, who

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<v Speaker 1>I think at that time, he can admit who was

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<v Speaker 1>in his ear saying, oh, you know you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing this, you need to be on this, and

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, he need to be a Philly you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do this and a lot of time home.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants you to stay home because they feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's how um, that's what keeps you authentic. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, bro, come down here. Think about this. When

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote Motivation, Kelly, it was it was laid out,

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<v Speaker 1>it was laid up, it was a it was a partm.

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<v Speaker 1>I rented this dope apartment on the beach, like right

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<v Speaker 1>down the street from where I was living at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was laid out, but and he never went to

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<v Speaker 1>it one time, not one time, and it's and it

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy. And he'll even admit to you he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I was bugging. I had people in

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<v Speaker 1>my you know, in my around me that was telling

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<v Speaker 1>me certain things. And I'm gonna tell you a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>story about position positioning yourself where the things happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a motivation for Kelly Rolling and as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>we finished it, Kelly said, where's young Chris. He should

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<v Speaker 1>rap on this? No, she said it like playfully serious.

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<v Speaker 1>She said it like you know, who knows if she

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<v Speaker 1>was even serious or if she even would have followed through,

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<v Speaker 1>But she just said it in passing like real cool,

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<v Speaker 1>like young Christian rap on this. That's your artist, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have been. It would have end up right

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<v Speaker 1>being Wayne because they would have lad let's get you

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<v Speaker 1>know how that is. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I told him that he was fun. It's always the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>always be around and always be available, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I always made myself accessible to the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of my career and still even now

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody calls me right now with the opportunity. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>jumping on the flight, you know what I mean. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing things that a lot of people at my level

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be humble enough to do because I just believe

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<v Speaker 1>in winning, and I believe that I haven't made it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people look at me and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you do, I haven't made it yet because when

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<v Speaker 1>I when I hang around, I live in the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>full of billionaires on purpose because I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the poorest person in my neighborhood, because I need to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's no I'm not. I haven't hit the

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling yet. It's so far from me. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>so many people feel like they made it and they

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<v Speaker 1>have not arrived. I'm here to tell you you have

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<v Speaker 1>not arrived yet because I haven't, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are above me feel like they haven't. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was just with Usher the other night and we

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<v Speaker 1>was in the studio just vibing right, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>he showed me a new house, he just bored in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood Hills just for the you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>a little little joint our book and I'm like day

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<v Speaker 1>and he don't feel like he's you know, he feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's still so much for him to do. When

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<v Speaker 1>I'm around Puff and I'm seeing how hard he works,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how can I possibly feel like any opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>is too small for me when I'm looking at guys

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<v Speaker 1>like this who going above and beyond to do whatever. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I'm saying, come on exactly, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I gotta grind. So I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a learning experience for everybody. But I always lived myself

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<v Speaker 1>and always believing an opportunity being there in present. But

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<v Speaker 1>just back to the tie everything I believe in. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's a superstar. You will never hit me, say

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<v Speaker 1>anything mad about it. Her dad calls me, call me

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. He says, Yo, I'm going to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the country. You know some spots that I

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<v Speaker 1>hang out. Yeah, I got you. Me and her pops

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot. He's a super cool dude, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>the court. Do you think it reflects bad off you that,

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<v Speaker 1>like none of the artists you signed end up popping

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<v Speaker 1>off the only only I think, Um, yes, yes it does, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and but I'm honest enough to say, um, those things

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out. But I will also admit. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to admit. Um, I did everything in my power to

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<v Speaker 1>help every artist that it was around me. Every time,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what I didn't do that I should

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<v Speaker 1>have done was being a little bit more tough on

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<v Speaker 1>him and biddy, like put the fish down a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more because I just don't. I hate that forcing thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I should have been like, listen, these are the records. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a song this Tierra had the core popular

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<v Speaker 1>that she hates. It's the first when she performed the

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<v Speaker 1>song for Jimmy Ivin when I first was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sign her, Jimmy Ivin and John Janet said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the record. We everything leads up to this record. She

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<v Speaker 1>hated the record after she did it. I guess see

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<v Speaker 1>when she wrote it years ago. But we can't we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that. We just know that it's a brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>song and it's just a genius lyric and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so clever, and everybody's playing was we're gonna put out

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<v Speaker 1>a warm up and we're gonna put this single up.

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<v Speaker 1>She changed her mind. I think in retrospect, what I

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<v Speaker 1>should have did was saying we're putting this song up

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<v Speaker 1>right on some puff daddy, because that's what he would

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<v Speaker 1>have did. He would have been like because in her

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<v Speaker 1>mind she might have done it so long ago and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so old. But for other people, and then such

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible record, and it's not a record that you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people would say, well, you know,

0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any bias, so I didn't write this song.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, I thought it was genius and I

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<v Speaker 1>should have just said, listen, we're putting this record up

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<v Speaker 1>and then let you be mad at me, because I

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 1>looked at the Usher situations. When me and Usher first

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<v Speaker 1>heard Year, me and Usher sitting in the room, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen year old kid, and we first herd Year.

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<v Speaker 1>We laughed hysterically. Really, we said, it's the worst song ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about this, bro. The first few lines, imagine you

0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:52.360
<v Speaker 1>him Sean Garrett in the high pitch by screaming I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the club with my homies trying to kick a

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<v Speaker 1>little bi and put it down on a low key.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I was trashed. Bro. We was like looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it like what I was gonna fight? And that was

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I think about this that that yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>that line. All the time. We was like and we

0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.840
<v Speaker 1>was because we were sitting in the Usher's living room

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember being like a little I was, I

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was I didn't deserve to even speak at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember him looking at me and he gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a smirk and I just fell on the floor.

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 1>And Mark Pitts and KP was in the room and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, yeah, tripping, this is a number one record,

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<v Speaker 1>and they tricked Usher, they said, just cut it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>put it out as a warm up, and you know,

0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they put that joint. I went number one right away,

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<v Speaker 1>and even us when he when I saw us again,

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, we was wrong about it because at

0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>least because because I just admitted that that's work, and

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the situations we are in. Sometimes sometimes we think,

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<v Speaker 1>at Usher's level, this is the Confessions album he had

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<v Speaker 1>already had eighty seven or one he had already had

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.560
<v Speaker 1>My Way. So both of them sold seven million each

0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and he still was able to admit I was wrong

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.159
<v Speaker 1>or he had an opinion that wasn't correct. And we

0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.199
<v Speaker 1>all have those things. So imagine a new artist who

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't had any success and telling you what they're gonna do.

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like I should have been like, nah, you're gonna

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>have to. We're gonna have to. You know I can.

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I can live with being wrong, and I don't think

0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.960
<v Speaker 1>what I what I don't do it I should do?

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Is I care so much and I get so frustrated.

0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:22.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'll just be like, you know what, I ain't

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna force you to do it when I should have

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 1>just sometimes let the artists be an artist instead of

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you doing. But but if they knew best they'd be,

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>they I would be signed to them, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing we gotta have You ever questioned yourself like

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm just not cut out to be a label

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<v Speaker 1>on the Let me write my songs because that's what

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:40.879
<v Speaker 1>that's what people want you to feel. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with trial and error. Think about think about um,

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:45.639
<v Speaker 1>I always bring this up. Think about Royals to may

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Back that didn't just pop off? Bro. He tried before

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you know certain artists he put out it

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out, and he was he stayed down with

0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:56.679
<v Speaker 1>his homies and it didn't work out. But in America's society, um,

0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>that is the definition of success. But an urban culture,

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>give up is the answer. You know why, because you'll

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>see people comment on you or take something to you like,

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>why don't you just do this? Why don't you just

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>do this? And I'm like, because I'm not you and

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not regular, and I believe that if you fail,

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 1>you'reupposed to get back up and keep trying. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, what does it cost me?

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.640
<v Speaker 1>What it costs you for me to try? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest thing about black people is that when we

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>see somebody trying something, we love to be like, why

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.159
<v Speaker 1>don't you just stop? Why? How does this affect you?

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Why does it bother you so much? Rapper, I will

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>tell you to quit after your dreams? Everybody can people

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>get back? I agree, but some people are whacked. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, what does it take

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<v Speaker 1>for me for him to try it? Don't do nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to me because if nobody's gonna hear it if you

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 1>whack anyway. I love that you put this on Instagram.

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Somebody tweeted you I didn't want to like this week.

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I love album, but it's actually pretty good. Whybody doesn't

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>not want to like it? Let me tell you something

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>about our people. At all costs, we want to try

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to find the way to embarrass you or say something smart.

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 1>We can't even give a cool compliment. We can't even say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm surprised this record is good. If

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been cool, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>like it. That means that means that I went into

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<v Speaker 1>this situation saying that you I don't like you. Every

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>situation I go into, I try to think the positive

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>fo I always give. I just want to do it,

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>or it's I just because for one thing, if I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't feel like it to be dough, I

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 1>just won't listen. But people just go I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was honest of him to say he didn't

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you know that I'm a hater, But I had to

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 1>call him out and say, it's crazy that that's a

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>great feeling though, that you won somebody you say that.

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 1>People say that because if I just say, Yo, this

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Reco Love album is dope, guess what I'm gonna get

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you take Pride and Rico. But if you say but

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<v Speaker 1>if you say I didn't want to like it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different level. If you say that I'm really surprised

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>at how good this album is, then that's one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you say I did not want to like it.

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<v Speaker 1>That means you're saying to yourself, I went into this

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<v Speaker 1>situation not liking you, A good person who never bothered nobody.

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Y'all don't see me doing much. But I don't be

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<v Speaker 1>out here doing no corney. I don't bother nobody. I'm not,

0:23:58.160 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>you know. I just mind my business, take care of

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>my family and doing music. When you look on my

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 1>gram you look, all you see is my kids, my dog,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in my studio. You think you were afraid to be

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:11.200
<v Speaker 1>fans now absolutely everybody an artist. Everybody's an artist. But

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>how do you when you make your music? How do

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you decide what you're gonna keep when you're gonna give away.

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It's really easy because for the past two years, I

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>haven't been writing for people. I haven't been writing so

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know what I mean, it's on yourself,

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and and I was so because the frustration. We spoke

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>about it a little time, a little bit the last

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>time I was here. When you spend time development and

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>building artists, when I did that raiment, that Looking for

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Myself album for Usher, and we worked hard on that record,

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<v Speaker 1>and then to see them just go with a dance

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>song after we made this challenging effort to make music

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that was cutting edge and provocative, and then see the

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>record company come in and say, all right, that's cool.

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Do this song called Screaming and Doctor Luke and uh

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Homeboy did and we don't put this out this dance record.

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>We're like, but that goes against everything we've been building.

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Just big enough. He ain't got to take that. You

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>got to accept that. But sometimes people make decisions because

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>they feel like, think about that. Remember the year conversation.

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Now you're questioning it stuff. You're like, right, so maybe

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>they might be right this time. And I don't, you know,

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so I think sometimes when you go into situations with artists.

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I did a brand to Brandy at mean was the

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>last Brandy. I'm two eleven. Me and uh Sean Garrett

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>did the majority of that album, and I thought it

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.440
<v Speaker 1>was some incredible records on there. And then when the

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>album came out, we thought we're gonna get this push.

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I gave a shout out to Brianna, gave Brianna super

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>discount for like five records. And I'm thinking, because I

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think about that that up from me. I'm thinking

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>about legacy. I'm thinking about it. I have the opportunity

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to be on the greatest one of the greatest singers

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>of ever album. I did a record and then she said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, cool, you know what I don't want to

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>do from through the album, the more I'm gonna go

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>do the game, the TV show, I'm gonna go do

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>this and im And it's like, all right, this thing

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>that I take so serious. By the way, I'm a

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>person who really you know this, everybody I think could

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>notice about me. I'm very serious about music. I'm passionate

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>about it. So every song means something to me. It's

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>not just a check. You really hit me. Talking about money,

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you hit me. I even get frustrated when people ask

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>me about money or like how much money did you

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>make on this? I'm like, I don't like talking about

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, but um, I got frustrated because look

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>at every song as a baby too. I wrote a

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>song on Brandy's album called no Such Thing, It's too Late,

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Harley Breathing, and Paint this House and can you hear

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Me Now? And these songs were incredible to me, some

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>of my best works. Not man, I nearly enough. You

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, And you look at it and

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you're like these songs meant so much in this strust.

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>You spent all this time. I think you spent a

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>year on a on a Usher album. You spend a

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, six months on this Brandy album. You do this,

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 1>all these projects that you're really passionate about, and they

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>out of your control. It's like you had a child

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and then Tobody takes it and just raise it how

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>they want to raise it, and you're like, but that's

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>my child. And that's how it felt. So I just

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>felt like, you know what, let me do something that

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I love. And obviously um artists, you know, it's just

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, it ain't the same type of paper. I

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>completely understand why you want to be a solo artist

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>if now it makes perfect sense because you know people

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>will say that too, like why you want to be

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>as artist, why you should be a singer songwriter or

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>song but just and also just listen to the music, man,

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>and listen. Listen to the music and listen to This

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>album is so real to me because it's my honest contribution.

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like me saying who I really am and how

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I really feel. And you know, I don't come out

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>or force man, I don't do a bunch of corny stuff.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really when I look at you know, some

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>people that came before me, and people would be like, well,

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>this person did this, But I look at it, I'm like,

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>it looked like he's trying. It looked like she trying

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to look like it's too much. But with me, it's

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I get in the van and go from city to

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>city and do a hundred interviews in a day. I

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>go do promo. I just left LA. I did promo

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>all day LA. I got off the plane and came

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>straight here, and then I got a full day and

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>then I go to sleeping. I wake up at six am,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and I got an audition for a movie, and then

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I got to do the same thing promotion all day,

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and then the next day the same thing that I'm

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna plane in the fly to Miami to spend time

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>with my kids. This is serious to me. So when

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>you look at this effort that I'm putting forth, if

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>nothing else, you could say, it gotta be something to it,

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>because the man made too much money in the other

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>world to be just doing this and not making the

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>same type of paper. Why is it easy to swallow

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>your pride to go out and do the new artist hustle,

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the stuff you don't have to do, like do one

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred interviews in a day. But you can't pick up

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the phone and say, hey, man, could you do this record?

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Because it's something I'm doing for me. Got you now?

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>When I'm I control that, I control how hard I work.

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't control if you're gonna say yes. And I

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>can't control. And one thing I'm uncomfortable with is a

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>no from a person who I think should say yes.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I would rather, I would rather, I would rather us

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>not even talk about it because I don't want to

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>feel away about it the same you know what I mean.

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's the same way. The girl was really like

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>the girls, what about you dealing with a girl you

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't tricked off a lot of money whatever whatever. You

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>took her out and you're like, let me get some

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of that, and she's like, no, he's in a relationship.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Um Man, you know what if me and my girl

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>took the girl out and we spent a bunch of

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>money on her and she was acting funny, my girl

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>would tell her, sweeth, you gotta go. I just wanted

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you to give me the same manth you gave before

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that's nothing like right somebody that folks say yes, but

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you cannot like it. I don't mean you're gonna take it.

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So is out right now?

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Turn the lights on? Turn the lights on? T T L. Yeah,

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>real quick. Though the album is super important to me.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I want you to understand the meaning behind turn the

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>lights on. A lot of people will say your name

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the album turn the lights on, obviously, because you say

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>turn the lights on, and every song you're write it's

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a true meaning. I think the lights they represent success,

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and they represent money, and they represent things that happen

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to you when you become successful. I want to write

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>about so when the lights come on you and even

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>on an intro I talk about it. It's saying what

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do when the lights come on? Like if

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you if you went from one day to not having

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>none and then the next day somebody gave you ten

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>million dollars, your life changes like that, and your views

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>on marriage, your views on relationships, give views on monogamy,

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>they change. And instead of me making a whole album

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>about how many cars I bought in my big house

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and this, this and that, I said, well, let me

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about how those things affect you as a person.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's really strong titles. It's a song called for

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the kids, and it's talking about a lot of us

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>in life and in relationships. People stay in relationship but

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>because of the kids. And it's a song called run

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>for Me. And this is a true, honest story. I

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>broke up with my girl for like three months. This

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>album takes place within that space where we've broken up

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>in three months. The whole album I don't like when

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody says now to Run for Me is such a

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>strong song and what it represents. It was a girl

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I was seeing while I was broke up with my girl,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was really into her and I was feeling

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it and I just said to up one day, you know,

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>well I can't. I can't mess with you no more.

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And even watching this interview right now, I know she's

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like looking at me, like shaking ahead, but

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I was, I can't mess with you no more. And

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>she's like, what what I said. If my girl called

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>me right now I want to get back with me,

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm gonna get back with Dare. And that's

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>just me being a hunting because I know where this

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>is going. We're not just having fun. We're catching feelings

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I know that foot no matter how

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>deep our feelings get into this situation. If she called

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>me right now and say all right, cool I want

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>us to be back together, I'm gonna leave and I'm

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>not even gonna never told to you anyway. Man, you

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>know I was out here being a whole you know,

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>why not out here violent? And you know we deal

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>We deal with those things. I spoke about that on

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the album as well. We deal with things. And you know, man,

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>we were I love. Sometimes we just really and then

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you mess up and then what what happens is sometimes

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>one day at a time. But were air Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like a lot of it's a lot of

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>real records. But wouldn't you want that from your artists?

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I think, think about this, right, think about this. We

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>get on Instagram, and we get on Twitter, we go

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>on social networks. Were going on a ball alert. We

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>go on shave room to find dirt about personal lives

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of our artists, right, and that's the thing that gets

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the most attention, right. But then these incredible artists, they

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>don't talk about personal issues on their projects. And they

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>wonder why they don't sell. They're buying your personal life

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>on social media and somebody else getting paid for it.

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>But why don't you give examples of the truth that

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you went through. That don't mean you have to give

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>details or what day or what girl, what person? Why

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>don't you give a little bit of who you are?

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>And And I'm gonna be honest with you. Do I

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>expect my mom to sell a bunch of out of

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the gate? Probably won't. Probably won't. But at the end

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of the day, one year from today, I promise you,

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be in a different space because we're gonna

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>work this record and you introduce one person. If every

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>week you get a few more people to tell, a

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>few more people to tell a few more people, you

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta work it, and you gotta say something that's worth hearing.

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>It's only so much we could turn up. It's a

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>bunch of club records. And guess what they know when

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>they when they listen to that record in the club

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, cool, your first single was a big

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>club anthem. But guess what, in a few months, it's

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be another one of you. We're gonna be sick

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>of that sound, and as soon as that sound is over,

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be sick of that. And the producer is

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>really eating more than the artists art because they like cool.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>When you're going, I'm gonna still be me. You're gonna

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>come and go. People are not gonna They're not attached

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you because you haven't given them something to hold onto.

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>When I first listened to you Know So Sick by Neil,

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, bro, this Virginius at It made me

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>even want to know who this guy was class It

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>made me feel something. And I think artists are making

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>records that don't make people feel anything, and that's why

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't stick. And that's what I was talking about yesterday.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about The Little Way. Believe me. It's sold

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a million records, but it ain't stick. You know a

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of those. So but I think at that level,

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>he already has people who love him. And that's a

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>different conversation. I'm talking about more a new artist who

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>are trying to establish a base. The reason why they

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's so important to me is because it

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>was it was a chess move, you know why it

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>was a conversation starter. I can't believe he said that

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the reason why bitches be like what's so important is

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>because it was like I can't believe he said that.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And now people gotta come to know who Rico Love is.

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.479
<v Speaker 1>And I would know some artists who who have had

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>bigger records and the people don't know who they are,

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and they know who I am, because you have to

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>who is this dude? Even if they like you whack

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>are you this? Are you ugly? And you black? You

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>did it? They still know who I am and they

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>still recognize me. And I think music has to do that.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>If you're not doing that as a new artist, if

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>your record is not saying something for real, I'm telling

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you that big club record, enjoy it. Enjoy it, I think,

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and other people enjoy about you though, is you do

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>have something to say, Like even when you see you

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in your interviews, you're honest, you got something to say.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Even on Twitter, you engage with people absolutely. People don't

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>have no personality, they don't and it's nothing. It's nothing

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to them. And you know what, I've been in the

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>game for a long time and I've seen a lot

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of things. You know, mace phraise me, you know, and

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I learned under learning the usher. Know, being on the

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>puff and all these guys and watching them, it's like

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>so much you could pick up. And I think so

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>many guys spend time with artists and they don't pick

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>up on it things that are important. It's just like

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>if you've been on the I know guys who've been

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>on world tours and couldn't tell you anything about any

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>cities because you know what they do. They go in

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>their room and they smoke, and then when it's time

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>for the show, they come out the room, do the show,

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>get some girls, go back to the room and they smash,

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep, go to the next city. And I'm like,

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>you're not even educating yourself based upon your surroundings. I'm

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna live life, bro, because guess where everything you live,

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>everything you see, is regurgitated. When you're a true creative

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>everything that I absorbed in my mind, I can give

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it back to the world and I can learn, and

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I can educate myself and teach others through that education.

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think we don't do that with our records,

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>and that's why we don't sell albums. And that's why

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.720
<v Speaker 1>artists like a Kanye West can put out a record

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>without no singles, whether people like the Jesus or not,

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it had no singles and he's still platinum at the

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. End of the day. Kendrick Lamart

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>don't gotta ca a radio smash. People believe what he

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>has to say and they believe in him. Jake cold On,

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm so inspired by these guys, even Drake. I listen

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to Drake and I'm like, Drake is a genius. You

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>know why because he jumping on your records and he

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>using your records for the foolishness and then he making

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>his record about the real stuff. It's like, all right, cool,

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about nothing, but I know you're gonna get attention.

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna jump on the jay Z used to do that. Everybody.

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Jay Z will be like, oh, he's the new guy,

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>jay Z call you what up? I want to get

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>your record? Oh my god, jay Z want to work

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>with me. And then he'll be like, yeah, I'm gonna

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>take this away from you and then go about your business.

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>When you're not hot no more, You're not gonna be

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>able to call jay Z. Drake is exactly what used

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to do. Genius, genius. But guess what when you listen

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to his record. It's like a guy who smoke all

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the time, but don't buy wheat. You know what I mean,

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>when you're smoking heke when you go to his southee like,

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>what are we that I don't buy no weed? What

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 1>you're still doing here? One last thing? Do you want

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to see? I'm Floyd and pack yoah fight again. No,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Floyd don't got nothing to prove the pack Yah. He

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>beat that man. He beat him, of course, because I

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>know because I saw Floyd well I don't know if

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys saw this, but actually tweeting him reached out

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and reached out to him. Yeah. Yeah, he reached out

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to say giving me for free tickets to the to

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>his next fight, because you know, I just like to

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>defend things that I believe in. You know, I wasn't

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to even add him, you know what I mean.

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I just was saying, you know how I felt about

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the fight. And at the end of the day, every

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>time Floyd fight, every time he fights, they say he's

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna lose, and every time he wins, they say that

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it was he did this and he only won because

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of this or this person ain't boring. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I felt like the fight, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think the fight was born, which I don't, is

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>only born because of Pakiel, didn't he the only one

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>who didn't fight his fight. Floyd foot the way he fights,

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>way he fights, and he stood in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the ring and he challenged him. Now, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>few times where Floyd would grab him and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>collect himself. He's trying to figure it out for first

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>few rounds, but after that he was here. He was

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<v Speaker 1>taking the flurys. He was have been dodging the flurries.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the day, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see and I don't believe paki All deserved to

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>fight Floyd in the first place. He took too many elves.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 1>That's just me being on it. He took too many els,

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and you don't deserve to fight fight no champion. You

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<v Speaker 1>keep taking these elves from the people that he already

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't beat up. So Floyd taking the fight was like, cool,

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do you a side. I'm gonna since everybody

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>want to fight, I'm gonna do it, and they're gonna

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>cash me out. But you don't deserve to fight him

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<v Speaker 1>no more. And he was a sore loser. I don't

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>think I lost the fight. Yeah, come on, bro, you

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>lost the fight. So did you know him before he

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>reached out? Are you just didn't know him? I still

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know him. He reached out and just say, you know,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it ain't like I'm you know, I'm not gonna probably

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>be at floy House tomorrow. You know that. That was

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<v Speaker 1>just no, No, we didn't know each other. He just

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, you got four three tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>the next fight. His next fight comes in September, and

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't hear nothing. Pride. I'm gonna be like, we're

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me to get his tickets, and we're gonna

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>be like, yo, we need we need our tickets. I

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>remember your problems. Two for me too. For Hrry, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a quick question before we don't stop that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this is the thing now that I had

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 1>a conversation about this. If your girl don't like boxing, right,

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>do you take her to the fight? If you got

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>flour to eat, you better see that's what I don't

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>only agree with you because you have to who are

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>you gonna take? How you look? But listen, it's a

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>bit pastagram. That's why it upsets me because think about this.

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<v Speaker 1>You got friends, you grew up with your whole life

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that love boxing, and you like, I don't watch sports,

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch this. And as soon as it's time

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to do that, it's like so when we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>the face, so you gotta take up. I'm sure she

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>probably do a lot of things for you that she

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>don't really want to do that you gotta gotta cash.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>If you got a pot your father like love, Like

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<v Speaker 1>now I gotta take but you're getting four. I'm getting

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>four so she can go. It's a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's a lot of my homie. It's

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna be upset, bro. But yeah, but that's your girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't getting them tickets less you follow up, So

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<v Speaker 1>follow out. You need to follow. I'm gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta bring some girls with us too. After the fact. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's the breakfast club. Me out turning out now,

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<v Speaker 1>I like sing out now, I like something