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Speaker 3: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,
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Speaker 4: in Frisco, the headquarters of the Dallas Cowboys, And this
Speaker 4: is mix Shots and Mickey's having good problems.
Speaker 5: We're good.
Speaker 4: And uh, Mickey of course the man who wrote the
Speaker 4: book on this rivalry, Dallas versus Washington, and Commander's Week
Speaker 4: is officially underway bicking. So move your microphone a little
Speaker 4: bit closer to your mouth.
Speaker 2: I mean the MIC's not even closed, right, just turned
Speaker 2: it out. What do you have of my.
Speaker 5: Saying about cowboys and Indians doesn't go over?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: No, that was yeah, that's not that was.
Speaker 5: That was pretty good twenty six years ago.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're going to move forward twenty six years And Savannah,
Speaker 4: how are you doing on this beautiful Wednesday at noon?
Speaker 6: I'm great, except for the fact that last night both
Speaker 6: Mickey and I were at the Dallas Stars game and
Speaker 6: waited until the very end to see if the Stars
Speaker 6: would come back, and they didn't get the job done.
Speaker 7: So I think Nickey and I are a little tired today.
Speaker 4: Oh so it was not a victory.
Speaker 5: No, they scored a eleven seconds.
Speaker 4: Into the game.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, did.
Speaker 5: Not score again until there was Who were they playing
Speaker 5: last night? Montrealreal Canadians.
Speaker 6: They're all right, They're not great.
Speaker 5: They're like five hundred.
Speaker 7: They're not as good as the Stars. So it should have.
Speaker 4: Been Yeah, but what have you done for us lately?
Speaker 4: Well the NHL, or what have you done for us lately? League?
Speaker 4: Like the NFL.
Speaker 5: They waited till four minutes left when they pulled the
Speaker 5: goalie and had six on five for almost five minutes.
Speaker 5: They scored two goals and nearly tid it in the
Speaker 5: last seconds.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's move on to Everson. Maybe we can get
Speaker 4: off hockey talk.
Speaker 5: He's tired.
Speaker 2: No, No, I got.
Speaker 4: I got something for ever since. I got something for
Speaker 4: ever since. Maybe the same thing you got. No, No,
Speaker 4: how about Dad Gremblin women's basketball team? Who did we beat?
Speaker 4: You beat the College of the Biblical Studies.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, boy, here we go, and.
Speaker 4: It was it was a route of biblical proportion. Wow,
Speaker 4: one fifty nine to eighteen. Now you're getting we are
Speaker 4: really like we need where what's that school in Houston?
Speaker 4: You looked at up, looked at CBS. I thought about
Speaker 4: I thought it was our company women's basketball team at CBS.
Speaker 4: So it's the College of Biblical Study.
Speaker 2: Did you know about this, Chris? Did you Did you
Speaker 2: read about this?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: But I'm about to go. Oh man.
Speaker 4: Eighteen.
Speaker 8: My boy Larry Lundy sent this to me and he said, man,
Speaker 8: they should have just played the water Girls or something,
Speaker 8: just you know, come on, man.
Speaker 4: Don't you think they pressed the whole game?
Speaker 2: I mean did they have to? Yeah, I mean got
Speaker 2: one fifty.
Speaker 4: Nine, one eighteen.
Speaker 8: Hey, but it's like one basketball player said, you can.
Speaker 8: It's hard to score that many points. I don't care
Speaker 8: how so you air they must have.
Speaker 4: Been on their coach said we had scored that many
Speaker 4: points in practice.
Speaker 5: A lot of layups of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how many layups can you get in one game?
Speaker 5: All fifty times.
Speaker 2: One fifty nine? Oh my goodness?
Speaker 5: Are they in the same conference as Colorado School.
Speaker 4: Of the I mean this is like college of Biblical Studies.
Speaker 8: Well, no, this is you know when you make a
Speaker 8: joke and you say, you know, they played the College
Speaker 8: of the Deaf and Blind or something, You know what
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 2: Just that's that's what.
Speaker 5: The little wid looking like that.
Speaker 4: I did. I did look it up and the College
Speaker 4: of Biblical Studies did lose to Houston Tillots in one
Speaker 4: oh six to nineteen earlier this season.
Speaker 2: We must have been on. We must have been on. God. Man,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. That's been the coach played. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's our big news basketball last night, said
Speaker 4: said again. Their producer Supreme.
Speaker 9: Said, Baylor opened the Foster Pavilion last night.
Speaker 4: Oh that is a nice looking over.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw pictures of them.
Speaker 5: Man, wow, did they crescing? It would a win?
Speaker 9: We did.
Speaker 4: We played Cornell, which is the equivalent of the College.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's not the same. At least that's respectable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Okay, So Mickey, We've got some news
Speaker 4: breaking year at the Star in Frisco this morning.
Speaker 5: Cowboys activating Semi Fijoko no Juniorko, sorry.
Speaker 4: Billyummy, junior for junior for Hoko on the defensive lineman,
Speaker 4: not the wide receiver.
Speaker 5: To the fifty three man roster. He was out. His
Speaker 5: twenty one day practice deal was up off the IR
Speaker 5: so they moved him to the roster. And Deuce Vaughan
Speaker 5: has an ankle injury and he's been moved to IR.
Speaker 5: So that's the one official, one one play, one official
Speaker 5: thing that he only played.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's.
Speaker 7: Why he was That's why he only played one maybe, Yeah.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 5: You forgot the Here I go off on a tangent.
Speaker 5: The backup quarterback you guys had in the mid early
Speaker 5: eighties that they wanted to keep and get them on
Speaker 5: I R. And in the preseason game they ran to
Speaker 5: play and told them to run towards the Cowboys sideline
Speaker 5: and that was towards their cameras and grabbed your hamstring
Speaker 5: before you go out of bounds, and so we can
Speaker 5: put you on I R and keep your rights. And
Speaker 5: he forgot to grab his handstring.
Speaker 2: Who told him to do that?
Speaker 5: The coaches, the Cowboys?
Speaker 2: The Cowboys wouldn't do something like that. Yeah, no, absolutely not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: come on, it was who was that Chad Hutchison?
Speaker 5: When you played what you got?
Speaker 8: You second, I'm touching them, by the way, you guys,
Speaker 8: I sent you got some stuff, man, there.
Speaker 7: Are some people that sent us stuff on good.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 4: We'll get to that eventually.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 4: Okay, remember that your hip, Well you got here.
Speaker 5: That's that'll that'll be.
Speaker 4: Savannah Dousa was in for eight snaps in the game
Speaker 4: in Detroit. So so what about this running back situation now?
Speaker 4: Because of course Rico Dawdle was inactive for that game
Speaker 4: because of an injury. What's going on with Rico?
Speaker 5: Mike said, he's better. Okay, so I think they plan
Speaker 5: on him and we got beats still, but he's out
Speaker 5: of elevations, so you would have to elevate him. You
Speaker 5: would have to create a spot off or you have
Speaker 5: to wait till the toll the playoffs, right, because I
Speaker 5: think you get extra elevations once you get to the playoffs.
Speaker 9: So how does this goofs.
Speaker 2: If he if he's out of moves, then they would
Speaker 2: have to expose him.
Speaker 5: They have to put him on the fifty three.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought maybe no, no, he's all.
Speaker 4: Right, but then you would if you made a roster
Speaker 4: moob with him, then he would be exposed after if
Speaker 4: you take him off the fifty three with not putting
Speaker 4: him on.
Speaker 5: He's already been exposed.
Speaker 4: He's exposed right now. Yeah, I mean anything could sign
Speaker 4: him right now if they wanted.
Speaker 5: To, exactly, And nothing official yet on Leo Collins or
Speaker 5: Damian Wilson. No, all right, because they've got to make
Speaker 5: corresponding mon.
Speaker 4: So here's a question for you. All right, you've got, uh.
Speaker 4: One of the main reasons that obviously you're bringing in
Speaker 4: Lyle Collins for a try for a workout and then
Speaker 4: Damian Wilson, it's the depth situation on the offensive line
Speaker 4: and at linebacker. Is there a concern now with Deuce
Speaker 4: going on ir at the running back position where you
Speaker 4: have a depth issue there, especially since Rico has been
Speaker 4: nursing an injury here the last month or so.
Speaker 5: Well, you've got one open spot on the practice squad.
Speaker 5: You get sixteen, right, they're at fifteen, so they would
Speaker 5: have to make corresponding moves to let somebody go.
Speaker 4: There's like fifteen moves you could make there, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, although.
Speaker 4: As there are spots of the practice what I'm saying
Speaker 4: is going forward as yes, as we into the playoffs. Okay,
Speaker 4: how fortified are they at the running back position in
Speaker 4: order to in case you lost someone else injury.
Speaker 5: So there's a running back that's supposed to be out there,
Speaker 5: is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Somebody released, somebody's been reported that hasn't been released, but
Speaker 5: it is going to be released.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there have been reports there is a quarter they
Speaker 4: running back though, Yeah, with the James Delvin Cook, Okay,
Speaker 4: Tom Pelissero reported that right, he's on the outs.
Speaker 5: So the Jets, well, let me ask you this then,
Speaker 5: because this is what they'd have to decide. Would you
Speaker 5: put them on the fifty three or would you put
Speaker 5: them on the practice squad? Because if the Cowboys think
Speaker 5: that much of them thirty one, other teams might think
Speaker 5: something of them too.
Speaker 2: How when's the last time you played?
Speaker 5: I had it right?
Speaker 8: I mean that, because you know if you bring them
Speaker 8: in and playing right away, then you'll So he played
Speaker 8: all a little bit.
Speaker 5: He played. This has him having played December seventeenth against Miami.
Speaker 5: He had one carry for four yards against Houston. The
Speaker 5: week before seven carries for thirteen yards, and the week
Speaker 5: before that against Atlanta, nine carries for thirty five yards,
Speaker 5: and then one carry, two carries, four carries two to three, six, five, eight,
Speaker 5: four and a season high of thirteen in the season opener,
Speaker 5: so they didn't really use them.
Speaker 8: Well, that situation got kind of crazy from the beginning,
Speaker 8: right with the Jets. Yeah, hey, I went down and
Speaker 8: it affected everything.
Speaker 5: But you thought they would maybe run the ball a
Speaker 5: little bit more.
Speaker 2: Well they did.
Speaker 5: Brice Hall is that the guy's name, Breshall? So yeah,
Speaker 5: if anything else, he's got fresh legs and we'll see.
Speaker 5: But again, you know, somebody else might be more interested
Speaker 5: in putting him on their fifty three. And then you
Speaker 5: got to decide do you want to put him on
Speaker 5: the fifty three and pay some money. I'm guessing he's
Speaker 5: going to clear waivers.
Speaker 4: Okay, but that move has not been made yet, although
Speaker 4: the NFL network is reporting they have mutually agreed to
Speaker 4: part ways according.
Speaker 5: To Cook's agent, and then the other moves, like I said,
Speaker 5: they haven't officially done that yet, so there's some moving
Speaker 5: parts there. And as Mike McCarthy answered the questions uh
Speaker 5: in the press conference about both guys, he said, I'll
Speaker 5: address that tomorrow.
Speaker 4: So what position are you in terms of depth in
Speaker 4: the injury situation? What position group are you most concerned
Speaker 4: with right now on this Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Team that's easy.
Speaker 5: Go ahead.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm with.
Speaker 5: You, because you're while it seems like there's some optimism
Speaker 5: that Tyler Smith can play, say he can't, and then
Speaker 5: bass is probably your starter at left guard. But then
Speaker 5: what are you doing after that tuma?
Speaker 2: And wouldn't not making a whole bunch of moves to
Speaker 2: cover one one position?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That we did that last year. Yeah, didn't work.
Speaker 5: So I think the idea with Leo Collins is to
Speaker 5: have somebody that least knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he can do it. I mean,
Speaker 5: you've got to remember. I know everybody's getting excited about it,
Speaker 5: but there's a reason why the Cowboys let him go
Speaker 5: Terrence Steele. I've played them and they're paying eight million
Speaker 5: dollars in dead money this year for that move.
Speaker 4: And would they be looking at Collins as a depth
Speaker 4: at tackle or guard?
Speaker 5: Well, he played the little guard before he got moved
Speaker 5: out to tackle. It's been a while.
Speaker 8: Well let's look at it like this from an optimistic standpoint.
Speaker 8: Just because he got beat out by Steele, Yeah, that
Speaker 8: still doesn't mean he's not good.
Speaker 2: He just got beat out by better player.
Speaker 5: He didn't play very well either in my.
Speaker 4: Opinion, well, I think he was having ongoing injury issues himself,
Speaker 4: and you know now he hadn't played all season, and so.
Speaker 5: Because he was coming off an ACL injury and.
Speaker 4: He's had hip issues earlier in his career.
Speaker 5: That's why he missed the twenty twenty season.
Speaker 4: So it's more I look at it, it's more of
Speaker 4: a Okay, fortify the position with someone who has done
Speaker 4: it before. You get him on the least on the
Speaker 4: practice squad or whatever, and you get him in and
Speaker 4: make see if he can be in shape to come
Speaker 4: in in an emergency if you need him in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: I mean, think about it this way. If you're looking
Speaker 5: for somebody, what's the alternative somebody that hasn't is still
Speaker 5: out there, that hasn't played all season long, that might
Speaker 5: still be a free agent. People don't cut even average
Speaker 5: offensive linemen everybody, so they're so valuable right now and
Speaker 5: they're scarce. The's not out there, so at least the
Speaker 5: guy knows where to go in the locker room to
Speaker 5: where he eats, and maybe he knows the plays a
Speaker 5: little bit too. So it's to me it doesn't hurt anything,
Speaker 5: especially if you're putting him on the practice squad, and
Speaker 5: you know, you can look at the practice squad, you know,
Speaker 5: keep picking on Buddy Johnson, But I didn't you pick
Speaker 5: on a lot of the people. Well, no, I just
Speaker 5: didn't know who else the linebackers.
Speaker 2: So little guy, you talk a lot of trails.
Speaker 6: So if we're talking about Buddy Johnson, and then if
Speaker 6: there was an the addition of Damian Wilson, what are
Speaker 6: your thoughts in comparison to the two.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's another guy on the practice squad named
Speaker 5: Durrell Johnson. He's a defensive end. Anybody know his work?
Speaker 5: The only other guy that I thought I knew was
Speaker 5: Tyron Billy Johnson.
Speaker 7: Who he's the wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Mike, would you like to know about Darrell Johnson?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: How the Liberty sixty three two hundred and fifty one pounds.
Speaker 4: He ran a four sixty nine with sixteen bench reps
Speaker 4: and a thirty six and a half vertical. That's what
Speaker 4: I know about him.
Speaker 2: This alignment.
Speaker 4: He's a are you talking about Darrell defensive end? He
Speaker 4: mentioned Drell Johnson. He's more of an edge Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, still good numbers, yeah, you know, and they still
Speaker 5: have Dakota Shepley as a guard on the on the
Speaker 5: practice squad. What about you know Adam Pankey? Go, he's four,
Speaker 5: he's in his fourth year from West Virginia.
Speaker 2: The hell of a life, just four years on the
Speaker 2: practice squad.
Speaker 5: And they've elevated Carl Davis the last two seasons, and
Speaker 5: I don't know that he did much to suggest he
Speaker 5: needs another elevation.
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Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys guys. Yesterday, Everson was talking about Hutchinson. Yes,
Speaker 6: we were thinking about a couple of different people there,
Speaker 6: but bring to bring it all back. We had some
Speaker 6: responses on Twitter about that, and someone said, I don't
Speaker 6: care how much of a good player Hutchinson's is.
Speaker 7: Uh, this is an obvious attempt twice.
Speaker 6: At taking Dak out, And so they had also posted
Speaker 6: a couple of plays where Hutchinson's coming at Dak, taking
Speaker 6: him down by the hips at one point, and then
Speaker 6: also taking him down on another play at the shoulders
Speaker 6: and it was kind of a big drop back. So
Speaker 6: at what point do we talk about Dak's safety as
Speaker 6: far as some of these tackles go, or would you
Speaker 6: like to.
Speaker 4: Talk about Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we drop tackle. Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 8: Clearly that I mean, that's big, But you know, Hutcherson's strong.
Speaker 2: He didn't have to do it the way he did it.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what they were trying to eliminate.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, that's exactly what they're trying to eliminate because
Speaker 8: people are dragging him down and breaking a lot of ankles. Well,
Speaker 8: he was trying to I don't know about what he
Speaker 8: was trying to do because I don't want to talk
Speaker 8: about his intent, but.
Speaker 2: Clearly he was You could see that he was doing the.
Speaker 8: Drop style tackle, grabbing him up top and trying to
Speaker 8: drop down on it with all of his.
Speaker 5: Weight with his legs wrapped around up correct.
Speaker 2: And when you think about that, and then you look
Speaker 2: at the tripping.
Speaker 5: Call, that was outrageous.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, not just the fact they missed it, but
Speaker 8: the fact that he actually tried to kick his leg
Speaker 8: out there and then he got called for Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: but but his intent was to kick throw out there.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 8: I guess you could make a tackle by tripping somebody.
Speaker 8: You can't do that either, Yeah, okay, well that's that's.
Speaker 5: And that calls them a potential touchdown.
Speaker 2: By the way, and.
Speaker 8: When you start doing things like that, that's a pattern.
Speaker 8: That was three plays in one game. You know, to me,
Speaker 8: that's a pattern. And the guys I talked about how
Speaker 8: good he is, it's not necessary for him to do that.
Speaker 8: And I got so caught up in the plays that
Speaker 8: he made. I meant to bring that up yesterday because
Speaker 8: I saw it earlier. And when this guy, whoever he was,
Speaker 8: I wish I could remember who sent the post, but
Speaker 8: he was right. You know, the first time was bad,
Speaker 8: but the second time was worse.
Speaker 2: And so do they call it? Do they call it?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, do they call.
Speaker 5: That they're supposed to do? I thought, didn't they make
Speaker 5: that rule or they talked about making it?
Speaker 2: And has the coach do the coaches know anything about it?
Speaker 5: But the tripping part they know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: But do the coaches know? Have the coaches really looked
Speaker 8: at those two sacks that he had?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure they now they haven't done anything on
Speaker 4: the hip drop tackle as far as the competition committee.
Speaker 4: And of course that was the Tony Hollared injury in
Speaker 4: the playoff exactly.
Speaker 8: And so the hip drop is different from the ankle
Speaker 8: drop or something. Whether we're talking about here, No, it's
Speaker 8: it's it's to me, it is, yeah, right, and it's
Speaker 8: and it's the hip drop of the tackler dropping his
Speaker 8: hip on top of them player and whether it's.
Speaker 2: Intentional and right.
Speaker 4: And so that's something that I'm sure the Competition Committee
Speaker 4: will be looking at in the off season.
Speaker 2: And I'm just surprised.
Speaker 8: After the game and know a lot of controversy in
Speaker 8: the game, I'm just surplised that wasn't even talked about.
Speaker 8: Uh just where the coaches saw it. I'm sure they
Speaker 8: see that. Just I'm sure Dak felt.
Speaker 5: It, just like the tripping penalty, right was bogus.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but the fact that he tried to trip someone,
Speaker 8: that's where they yah, you see what I'm saying that
Speaker 8: to me, that adds to what he was doing that game.
Speaker 8: And you can get a rip like that were up here, Uh,
Speaker 8: you know, seeing a guy like green Law, you know,
Speaker 8: we kind of look at him in that manner, and
Speaker 8: he's really been criticized a lot on how he plays sometimes,
Speaker 8: so you know, just because this guy is a good player,
Speaker 8: that doesn't mean he can't be criticized.
Speaker 4: In fact, in the it was Clarence Yee on Twitter
Speaker 4: who posted that that caught your attention, and he said, Everson,
Speaker 4: I don't care how much of a good player Hutchinson is.
Speaker 4: He's as dirty as Conrad Dobler.
Speaker 8: Now you got to look up Conrad Dobler. That is
Speaker 8: not a compliment at all. And it makes sense because
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 2: Why, that's our teams.
Speaker 8: That's how players get reps because of reputations like that,
Speaker 8: because of those plays. And I don't recall Michael Parsons
Speaker 8: when he gets to a quarterback doing something like that.
Speaker 2: You know, and I'm sure you know the way.
Speaker 8: He's been held four or five, six times a game,
Speaker 8: that he wants to do that when he gets to
Speaker 8: a quarterback, just out of frustration. But for Hutcherson to
Speaker 8: get away with that, like I said, I don't know
Speaker 8: if it's illegal or not. Bill, I don't know what
Speaker 8: the rule is on that, but it was clear that
Speaker 8: if Dak wasn't so strong, he would not have finished
Speaker 8: that game.
Speaker 5: It's sometimes amazing to me what they don't see, you know,
Speaker 5: It's like, well, you're looking right at it. That's why
Speaker 5: maybe it was somewhat of a miracle that they recognized
Speaker 5: that number sixty eight was ineligible when he caught the
Speaker 5: two point conversion, right, It's like, oh, no, he's not
Speaker 5: supposed to do that.
Speaker 8: If we play these guys again, I'm sure this is
Speaker 8: something that they will talk about. Oh I'm sure because
Speaker 8: it's the possibility that we will.
Speaker 5: Well just announce your guys eligible.
Speaker 2: No, I forget that crap I'm talking about. Oh you me?
Speaker 7: Yeah, the drop?
Speaker 2: The drop is I just think it's very dangerous.
Speaker 8: You're talking about a guy already has his ankle broken now,
Speaker 8: you know he always has his ankle broken, and then
Speaker 8: you're trying to do this, you know, that's that's doubler type.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 5: Well, I was told after the San Francisco game that
Speaker 5: if they have to play him again, watch out because
Speaker 5: the Cowboys accepted a bunch of crap from San Francisco
Speaker 5: that didn't get called, a lot of punches that nobody called,
Speaker 5: and it could be a an MMA fightat but you
Speaker 5: got to get there first.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Dak, Yes, I noticed a viewer or listener
Speaker 4: whatever on Twitter on x Cody Wins twenty five asked,
Speaker 4: does Dak deserve more MVP consideration? He has better stats
Speaker 4: than Lamar Jackson. Can't figure out why Lamar is such
Speaker 4: a heavy favorite.
Speaker 5: Well, number one, they don't lose.
Speaker 4: They went to San Francisco and blew out the Niners,
Speaker 4: and they blew out the Dolphins.
Speaker 5: And somehow we have starting to romanticize the running quarterback.
Speaker 5: Uh and a lot of his effectiveness obviously is running.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's pretty amazing, right, and it was.
Speaker 5: Look at college football, the same thing with LSU quarterback
Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels wins the Heisman After I saw Michael Pennox play.
Speaker 5: He's the first pick in the draft.
Speaker 2: He's putting in some tight throws.
Speaker 8: Right, those guys very about those guys wide open?
Speaker 2: It was was throwing them over, were right? I mean
Speaker 2: the guys that was an amazing guy.
Speaker 5: But that's the same thing. You know, Daniels best thing
Speaker 5: he did was run the ball. Now, he did improve
Speaker 5: his throwing, but I'll be surprised if he's a top
Speaker 5: ten pick in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Did you guys see the postgame interview with Lamar Jackson
Speaker 6: after they beat Miami this last weekend.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 7: It was actually pretty funny.
Speaker 6: He you win the game, They're doing the interview with
Speaker 6: Lamar and he is just stone cold, no smile, just serious.
Speaker 7: We came out here, we got the win. That's it, Like,
Speaker 7: that's done. And the reporter said to him after the game,
Speaker 7: can I.
Speaker 6: Get a smile before we before we get off camera,
Speaker 6: and he finally gave one smile. But I mean, the
Speaker 6: guys locked in. Lamar Jackson is locked in.
Speaker 8: I like his I like his game, and it's just
Speaker 8: a matter of what what you like. I mean, do
Speaker 8: you want that diversity and as far as being able
Speaker 8: to run the ball, or do you like what Dak
Speaker 8: is doing? Just from a simplistic standpoint, He's got this
Speaker 8: offense down period.
Speaker 2: You know, the moves that he's made are extremely.
Speaker 8: Instinctive, and that's when you're comfortable when you can be have.
Speaker 2: Instincts in play.
Speaker 8: I love the way that he only scrambles when he
Speaker 8: has to, and he scrambles to throw a lot more
Speaker 8: than Lamar does.
Speaker 2: One thing about Lamar, he didn't have a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of receivers that he can depend on either. But I
Speaker 2: must say this as well. He throws some good passes,
Speaker 2: but damn they were wide open. Everybody was wide open.
Speaker 2: I mean, why don't we get busted plays like that?
Speaker 2: You know, you got one, we had one, which was
Speaker 2: an amazing one. Those a big one.
Speaker 8: But if I look at the plays that they made,
Speaker 8: the rookie was wide open for Baltimore several times down
Speaker 8: the field, broken coverage. This guy fell down against CD.
Speaker 8: The coverage wasn't broken. This is broken coverage every time
Speaker 8: on Lamar and those guys, whether it's the red zone
Speaker 8: or out in the field, the guys were wide open.
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know that anybody has a
Speaker 5: stat on this, but Dak's effectiveness when he scrambles to
Speaker 5: throw you just mentioned it. I think he has created
Speaker 5: passing lanes. He has created routes for or plays for
Speaker 5: the receivers to benefit from.
Speaker 8: Something he was really not comfortable with previous years.
Speaker 5: Early in the season, he was trying to be perfect.
Speaker 5: He wanted everything five step, drop right, hit it, and
Speaker 5: then for wasn't open. He was still trying. And now
Speaker 5: it's you know, he's moving around like like he saved
Speaker 5: the safety right and throws a ninety two yard touchdown.
Speaker 2: His improvisation is spot on.
Speaker 5: Later on, you know, the other thing is he's he's
Speaker 5: got eight interceptions, right. He had three in one game,
Speaker 5: so that means five interceptions in fifteen games. It's pretty
Speaker 5: darn good.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson has completed sixty seven percent of his passes
Speaker 4: for three thousand, six hundred and seventy eight yards, seven picks,
Speaker 4: and twenty four touchdowns. He has run for eight hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty one yards five point five five yard average
Speaker 4: per carry, and five more touchdowns. So that is a
Speaker 4: total of four thousand, four hundred ninety nine yards rushing
Speaker 4: and passing and a total of twenty nine touchdowns. And
Speaker 4: Dak is a thirty two touchdown passes, so you.
Speaker 2: Should have had about thirty five.
Speaker 8: When you look at the Philly game, you look at
Speaker 8: this past game, and of course you look at your
Speaker 8: boy Hunter's game.
Speaker 2: So Dak's Hunter's game. I don't remember a Hunter's game,
Speaker 2: don't you.
Speaker 4: That wasn't a Dak touchdown though. That was one hundred touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, Yeah, that's true. That was one hundred.
Speaker 5: Still a hunter's game and Dak Dak has accumulated four thy,
Speaker 5: four hundred and seventy nine totally.
Speaker 4: So Lamar has twenty twenty more yards and but fewer touchdowns.
Speaker 5: That's right, Dak, and the same interceptions. What would you
Speaker 5: say seven and.
Speaker 2: Eight? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what happens with by the way, he is
Speaker 5: just oh he lost two games, so he's not as
Speaker 5: good anymore. The Cowboys lose to Buffalo, lose to Miami,
Speaker 5: and that just takes you right out of the MVP talking.
Speaker 4: And in the meantime, Lamar and the Ravens go to
Speaker 4: San Francisco and dominate the right and then they dominate
Speaker 4: the Dolphins too.
Speaker 5: So I think that answers whoever.
Speaker 8: I think he plays off his defense. I think our
Speaker 8: defense plays off a debt. That's the difference to me.
Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, very good.
Speaker 4: When we come back, Tyreek Hill was in that MVP conversation.
Speaker 4: How about a little comparison now between CD Lamb's numbers
Speaker 4: and Tyreek Hill's numbers. And we come back here on
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Speaker 5: So I mean, if you can work on those chords
Speaker 5: like that. That's a good step for what's today. I've
Speaker 5: lost track Wednesday, right, Yeah, so he's got three four
Speaker 5: more days?
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Speaker 4: That was a play on words there from Mickey step Okay,
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb versus Tyreek Hill. All Right, it's been about
Speaker 4: a month or so, probably since the Tyreek Hill bandwagon
Speaker 4: MVP bandwagon, maybe six weeks or and then, of course
Speaker 4: Tyreek got hurt in December, missed the game before the
Speaker 4: Cowboys game, and played the whole game against Miami. But
Speaker 4: you look at what CD has done here, especially over
Speaker 4: the last half of the season, and has eight straight
Speaker 4: games now with a touchdown and leads the league with
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty two receptions. I was just comparing
Speaker 4: CD's numbers with MVP candidate Tyreek Hill's numbers. Tyreek Hill
Speaker 4: one hundred and twelve catches for seventeen hundred seventeen yards
Speaker 4: and twelve touchdowns. Okay, six carries, fifteen yards, no touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb leads the league with one hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: two receptions for sixteen hundred and fifty one yards and
Speaker 4: ten touchdowns, and he's carried the ball thirteen times for
Speaker 4: another one hundred six yards and two touchdowns, which gives
Speaker 4: CD a total of one hundred thirty five for seventeen
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty seven yards and twelve touchdowns. Tyreek has
Speaker 4: hasred eighteen touches for seventeen hundred thirty two yards in
Speaker 4: twelve touchdowns. So CD actually has twenty five more yards
Speaker 4: from scrimmage than Tyreek Hill does now and the same number.
Speaker 5: Of touchdowns, and that would make him number two in
Speaker 5: the NFL at this point, behind Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: Who is an MVP two ten.
Speaker 5: Thousand, twenty three yards from scrimmage now. The other distinction
Speaker 5: for Cede Lamb he's scored a touchdown in eight consecutive games,
Speaker 5: the longest streak in the NFL, and he's the only
Speaker 5: Cowboys receiver record a touchdown in eight straight games, and
Speaker 5: his third in the NFL receiver in the past ten
Speaker 5: years to do so, DeVante Adams in twenty twenty and
Speaker 5: Antonio Brown in twenty eighteen. So that's how quite a
Speaker 5: streak he has been on since the Did he get
Speaker 5: shut out in the San Francisco game or just kind
Speaker 5: of held tonmal?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 2: It was ugly.
Speaker 5: Yes, four for forty nine, Yeah he had five targets. Well,
Speaker 5: that's changed.
Speaker 9: But if you remember Mack, I believe after that game,
Speaker 9: that's when he had the sit down conversation when McCarthy
Speaker 9: and everything changed.
Speaker 5: He kind of complained a little after the game in
Speaker 5: the true spirit of number eighty eight.
Speaker 8: And you know, not just that, but I remember I
Speaker 8: was criticizing him a lot because I don't think he
Speaker 8: was really playing up to that eighty eight. And I
Speaker 8: guess he felt that he just the reason he wasn't
Speaker 8: was because he wasn't getting enough targets. Yeah, and he
Speaker 8: went in, he balked for more, and he got more,
Speaker 8: and they feed him as much as he wants. I
Speaker 8: get a little paranoid about it because I love, I
Speaker 8: hate for us to just concentrate on one receiver so often,
Speaker 8: because you want a diverse attack. But in the past,
Speaker 8: we've always been criticized by the media and even former
Speaker 8: players that we need a go to guy to take
Speaker 8: you further into the playoffs. That's just the way it is.
Speaker 8: You need that go to guy. And here we are.
Speaker 8: You know, he's right where he wants to be, right
Speaker 8: where we wanted to be. And as we go into
Speaker 8: the Commanders, do you think they're going to consider his
Speaker 8: numbers in this game considering how weak the opponent is.
Speaker 2: That's something that look and that's including Dak as well.
Speaker 5: Think they have somebody that can cover him, because obviously
Speaker 5: in this last game, the Lions thought must have thought
Speaker 5: that they had somebody that can cover well.
Speaker 2: Dan told somebody that they could, and he lied to them.
Speaker 6: Known this season, he's able to break away from those
Speaker 6: defenders and get down.
Speaker 7: To where he's open.
Speaker 2: He's always open.
Speaker 6: And not only that, but he also when he catches
Speaker 6: the ball, he can break tackles. He does the spin move,
Speaker 6: he knows how to get down down the field further
Speaker 6: run after car.
Speaker 2: That's that's why he's our go to guy.
Speaker 8: And so once again because no one can cover him
Speaker 8: with the Commanders, because we expect, you know, this offensive
Speaker 8: blowout or at least a production offensively, Will that be
Speaker 8: a negative against the Cowboys because everyone is looking forward
Speaker 8: to the weak opponent.
Speaker 4: By the way, Producer Supreme, do we have a breaking
Speaker 4: news sounder? Breaking news from Washington. Ron Rivera has announced
Speaker 4: that the starting quarterback against the Dallas Cowboys will be
Speaker 4: Sam Howe.
Speaker 5: Of course it will stay my beating heart.
Speaker 4: It's breaking news. He just told reporters. Then he was
Speaker 4: supposed to announce that to do that. No, he was
Speaker 4: keeping us in suspense until today because Jakoby Brissett hurt.
Speaker 4: He was hurt. Yeah, and maybe I guess he still
Speaker 4: is hurt, but he was.
Speaker 5: His feelings are hurt.
Speaker 2: One of the two.
Speaker 7: Well, Sam Howe three hundred seventy or.
Speaker 6: Three hundred sorry, three thousand, seven hundred ninety three passing yards,
Speaker 6: twenty passing touchdowns this season and through two interceptions against
Speaker 6: the forty niner, I think he leads the league.
Speaker 4: And in this like around nineteen, I think out let
Speaker 4: me tell you here in the second.
Speaker 2: That's the number one. Is that right?
Speaker 6: Earlier when we played the Commanders, I remember bringing up
Speaker 6: the fact that Sam Howe likes to throw the ball.
Speaker 7: He's a passing quarterback. And I think at that time he.
Speaker 6: Was actually he was hot top three in the league
Speaker 6: as far as in yards, and.
Speaker 7: You know, we knew he was going to throw throw
Speaker 7: some of those interceptions. He's a passing quarterback.
Speaker 8: He was that guy with the two defensive linemen. Things
Speaker 8: got more desperate out.
Speaker 5: There he has one more touchdown pass than interceptions twenty
Speaker 5: to nineteen.
Speaker 4: He also supposed to be a two to one ratio.
Speaker 4: You know what in his first NFL start, Yes, he
Speaker 4: had the same number of touchdown passes as interceptions. He
Speaker 4: had one of each. And of course that was against
Speaker 4: the Dallas the Dallas Cowboys in final game of the season,
Speaker 4: final game of the season last year, which was a
Speaker 4: twenty six to six Washington win over a Cowboys team
Speaker 4: that was quarterbacked by Dak Prescott.
Speaker 5: In that game, now that there was nothing on the
Speaker 5: line in that game, right, because the Cowboys had already.
Speaker 2: Clink lost well we had lost to now.
Speaker 5: They had already they weren't they were going to be
Speaker 5: while they.
Speaker 4: Were going to be the five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought for some reason why the Titans game
Speaker 2: went up that was the previous game and we lost
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 4: With Joshua Dobbs at quarterback.
Speaker 9: I think we won the did we win it? And
Speaker 9: we won the Tennessee game and that's what locked up
Speaker 9: the fifth.
Speaker 5: Because everybody keeps bringing up the Washington game from last
Speaker 5: year that they lost it, But the twenty seven thirteen
Speaker 5: I don't think they had anything the game.
Speaker 8: I think We were just so disappointed because we wanted
Speaker 8: them to, you know, show some type of continuity.
Speaker 4: We did.
Speaker 6: Coach McCarthy said earlier today in the press conference, expect
Speaker 6: the unexpected. He said that based on it's week eighteen
Speaker 6: and the Commanders, he's thinking Ron's been aggressive in the past,
Speaker 6: it wouldn't surprise me if they're going for it more
Speaker 6: on fourth.
Speaker 8: Down's going to coach like this his last game because
Speaker 8: it is his last game.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's happened, just like that.
Speaker 4: The players are going to play their last game because
Speaker 4: for most of them it is their last game.
Speaker 8: Why plut the ball on the thirty five yard line
Speaker 8: and you got fourth and five.
Speaker 4: You know there's gonna be so many tackle Every tackle
Speaker 4: is going to be eligible this game.
Speaker 5: They're going to bring in two tackles eligible.
Speaker 9: U That's one thing I learned on this whole debacle
Speaker 9: of tackles. You're gonna only have one tackle eligible.
Speaker 5: You can't have to nope.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 4: Someone said it after the game. It was on ESPN.
Speaker 4: Whoever their expert, former NFL official was after the game
Speaker 4: on Saturday night. He said that, oh, you can have
Speaker 4: more than that, more than you have.
Speaker 9: To someone may want to say that to the Dan
Speaker 9: Campbell because in his press conference he goes, you can't
Speaker 9: have two people, And.
Speaker 4: That's why that's why they brought it up in the
Speaker 4: post game, because Dan Campbell said you can only have one,
Speaker 4: and then official said no, you can have multiple.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 14: But I don't know, so maybe I'll just lething and
Speaker 14: and even at that, do you think they didn't hear
Speaker 14: that the official announced seventy was eligible.
Speaker 4: I don't think they heard it.
Speaker 2: I don't even I think I heard a lot of
Speaker 2: noise down.
Speaker 4: What was the timing when when I was in the
Speaker 4: press box.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we didn't get that he was eligible?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because I don't. We don't get the sound.
Speaker 5: It just comes over.
Speaker 4: Did you have a headset on? No, but the coaches
Speaker 4: all a lot of the coaches anyway have headsets on.
Speaker 4: And he's asking did the players players are in the
Speaker 4: huddle they're hearing the play call?
Speaker 5: Because I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: You're in a quiet press box.
Speaker 5: It's not that.
Speaker 4: Quiet, well, but you're in a fresh box.
Speaker 5: Her crowd and I could hear him.
Speaker 4: You can't hear the crowd like they could hear it.
Speaker 2: On the five yard line.
Speaker 4: Well, which is why the official couldn't hear sixty eight
Speaker 4: when he said he was eligible.
Speaker 2: That I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, if I'm the coach, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: calling time out. But they were out of time out right,
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what the time.
Speaker 9: I just needed to do what the football he used
Speaker 9: to do. Remember that, Mack, when you break the huddle
Speaker 9: if you had if you didn't have an eligible you
Speaker 9: have to raise your hand. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 9: that's and I'm the tight end.
Speaker 2: Just let everybody. But that does not yet. Coach Campbell
Speaker 2: does not want that, And.
Speaker 5: Don't put sixty eight and fifty eight out there together.
Speaker 4: You can't have similar numbers. Your tackles can't have similar numbers.
Speaker 2: That was definitely by design.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt. See, I think the Lions thought
Speaker 4: that it will get announced, sixty eight I'll get announced correctly.
Speaker 4: But we're lining up sixty eight and fifty eight on
Speaker 4: the end of the line and they're going to get confused.
Speaker 4: They're going to have to cover both of them because
Speaker 4: they didn't hear it. Somebody didn't hear it, right.
Speaker 5: Well, the official goes to the defense and tells.
Speaker 2: Him, right, and that's what he did.
Speaker 5: It's not just announced, but they.
Speaker 4: Have to be able to hear what that he says
Speaker 4: fifty eight or sixty eight? In wait, did he say.
Speaker 5: Sixty to the defense said seventy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if they if they.
Speaker 8: Said it, yeah, if he did it, and the only,
Speaker 8: like you said, he only says to the defense, so
Speaker 8: the offense probably wouldn't even hear what he said, right,
Speaker 8: he went to the defense.
Speaker 4: But so the only way off sixty eight not seventy. Meantime,
Speaker 4: the play clock is going down and so.
Speaker 8: At the same time, but that the referee said, there's
Speaker 8: no rush for a two point conversion, So he doesn't
Speaker 8: know why the referee was in such a harry back
Speaker 8: away and make the call.
Speaker 9: You just love to know, probably because there's three offensive
Speaker 9: linemens screaming at him.
Speaker 4: You'd love to know.
Speaker 5: What the conversation was because everybody's going to cover their
Speaker 5: own butt, right, he is covering the offensive line. You
Speaker 5: never saw the offensive lineman do this, right, never.
Speaker 2: So it was cute.
Speaker 5: It didn't work, So there's a reason they need to
Speaker 5: take which, by the way, there's a reason why the
Speaker 5: NFL sent out a letter to the teams telling him
Speaker 5: when you're bringing in an eligible tackle, make sure it's
Speaker 5: demonstrausive and make sure it's him and it just what
Speaker 5: it should be.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, guys, I think the player did his job.
Speaker 5: Well, he sure didn't sign after the game.
Speaker 4: Didn't do his job because it didn't get communicating.
Speaker 2: Why can't that be the reference fault?
Speaker 5: Well, if I told you sixty eight and then I go, well, no,
Speaker 5: I'm going to do seventy, both of them.
Speaker 7: It's the player and the reps, both of them.
Speaker 9: They just didn't send out a letter yesterday. They sent
Speaker 9: out the video of the whole situation. You see that
Speaker 9: make no, I just texted it to you.
Speaker 4: Micky Mickey, if you call in sick for work, okay,
Speaker 4: how do you communicate that?
Speaker 5: Well, I never call it.
Speaker 4: Well, let's.
Speaker 5: Work with me here, work with them, please, yea, I
Speaker 5: will tell somebody.
Speaker 4: You'll tell somebody, and will you wait to hear for
Speaker 4: a response from that someone to make sure that they
Speaker 4: got it the message? Yes, that's communication. Okay, See that's
Speaker 4: an example of communication.
Speaker 5: No, it's acknowledgement a message, right all right?
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Speaker 4: take of further look at these Washington commanders.
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