1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: What is the Respect for Marriage Act? The United States 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Senate is going to be considering this legislation this week, 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: But what does it really do? Innocuous on its face 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and entitle it seems like it's no big deal. Remember 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: how they told us that the Inflation Reduction Act would 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: actually reduce inflation, and then after it was passed, they said, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: l L, just kidding. It's a climate bill. So what 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: is the Respect for Marriage Act? Now? Supporters of it 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: would say that all it does is that it federally 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: recognizes same sex civil marriage. You know, no big deal, 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: they say, But if you look under the hood, what 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: would that do to institutions, to to people, to churches 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: who abide by biblical teachings that marriages between a man 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: and a woman, would that put them in the cross 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: hairs of lawsuits or are from the federal government. Now 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: those who oppose the legislation have expressed great concern. Learns 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Rabbi Akov mentioned. The founder of Project Genesis had this 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: to say about it. He said that so called Expect 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: for Marriage Act is the federal government explicitly declaring the 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: Bible is wrong. He goes on to note that the 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: legislation allows any private actor to initiate a lawsuit if 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: a religious school wishes to recognize only traditional marriages. Also 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: concerns that it goes way beyond that, that if it 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: becomes law, it could affect employment decisions employees, spousal benefits, 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: eligibility for grants or contracts, accreditation, tax exemptions, even put 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: faith based foster care and adoption agencies in the cross 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: hairs of lawsuits and potentially the federal government. Many Senators 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: have also expressed concern as well. Senator Mike Lee has 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: introduced an amendment to try to actually protect religious liberty 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: in America, but the Senate is not even allowing for it. 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: They won't even take up Senator Mike Lee's amendment, and 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee has said that what this actually is, 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: what they're back for marriage actually is this act, this legislation, 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: is that this is a show game that ends in 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the destruction of religious liberty in America. Senator Lindsey Graham 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: had this to say. He said that the sponsors refusal 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: to adopt Senator to Lee's amendment, which clearly protects religious institutions, 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: says all I need to know about the potential risks 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: of the bill. So We're going to turn to Travis Weber, 40 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: who is the vice president for policy and government Affairs 41 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: at the Family Research Council, to find out what the 42 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: bill actually is, what would it do if this legislation 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: was passed, and what does it mean for religious liberty 44 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: in America more broadly. I hope you will tune in 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: for this really important conversation. I believe it's truly a 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: really important conversation because not everything is always as it seems. 47 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the Respect for Marriage Act. Obviously, 48 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, Democrats are really good at giving sort of 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: these are Wellian names to things, you know, the Inflation 50 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: Reduction Act, and then they were like, l O, L 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: just kidding, it's a climate bill. So you know, I 52 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: want to I want to get into, you know, what 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: actually is the Respect for Marriage Act, what's the intent? 54 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: But also what does it actually do? Yeah, I mean 55 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: I think that their intent is to try to to 56 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: take advantage of the moment politically and push something that 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: they think will help them out, even though no, no Republicans, 58 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: no one is trying to otherwise address this issue right 59 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: now legislatively at the national level. Uh, They're they're claiming 60 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: this is in response to a threat from Justice Thomas 61 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Concurrence in the Job's case. But they're the ones raising, 62 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, making cultural war, so to speak, right now 63 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: with this bill. Um the bill, the bills titles also deceiving. 64 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: It's it doesn't respect marriage. I mean that the problem, 65 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, we were inventing something. We get into the 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: area of same sex marriage as a society, and this 67 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: is a dangerous road to be on. Additionally, their issue 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: that we are trying to help people understand about this 69 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: bill right now is that it's implications for religious liberty 70 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: would be drastic by by repealing the defense of marriage 71 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: back in federal law, which is what the bill does, 72 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: mandating full faith and credit based on a state's definition 73 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: of same sex marriage or however otherwise the state would 74 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: define marriage. Uh and failing to protect religious liberating the 75 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: bill the bills that it becomes law, it's gonna unleash attacks, 76 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: let litigation, marginalization, and other social, legal, and economic consequences 77 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: for those who disagree. And that's the significant point of 78 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: really trying to help senders understand and right now, the 79 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: builders does protect religious liberty. So you've got some senators 80 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: coming out now saying this version protects religious liberty. That 81 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: version does not, because all it does is say churches 82 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: and religious organizations can't be forced to perform same sex 83 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: marriage ceremonies in essence on their facilities. That's not an 84 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: issue right now. The issue is that all the other 85 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: consequences of dissenting from the view that same sex marriage legitimate. 86 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: So religious college wants to have a code of conduct 87 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: and forced it on its campus would not be protected, 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: for example, among many other examples. So the current text 89 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: fails to protect it. Even though you hear Republicans um 90 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: the the compromise between Senators tell Us, Collins and Baldwin 91 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: going around saying protect religious liberty. This is unfortunately, I 92 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: think as hoodwinked a number of other Republicans, twelve of 93 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: whom voted for this the first procedural vote, but they're 94 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: just misinformed. It doesn't protect religious liberty. Senator leads of 95 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: them would protect religious liberty. We're gonna have more votes 96 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: after this weekend. That's the nutshell of of the situation. 97 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: But it really doesn't protect religious liberty, and you've got 98 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot of religious leaders who are raising concerns about 99 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: what this could do. Was reading this Daily Signal article, 100 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: and Rabbi Yakov Menken, the founder of Project Genesis, said 101 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: that essentially what the Respect for Marriage Act would do 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: is saying that, you know, the federal government would explicitly 103 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: declare that the Bible is wrong. Uh, you know, you 104 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: go on too. You know, there's other you know, some 105 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: bishops recently raised some concerns as well. And so the 106 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: Respect for Marriages Acts rejection of timeless truths about marriage 107 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: is evident on its face and in its purpose, it 108 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: would betray our country's commitment to the fundamental right of 109 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: religious liberty. That's from Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York 110 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: and Bishop Robert Baron of Winona, Rochester, Minnesota. So, you know, 111 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: religious leaders here raising concerns and essentially saying declaring what 112 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: they believe, what the religion teaches, what the Bible teaches, 113 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: is inherently wrong. Yeah, no, that's right, you know. And 114 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and one of the things that bill would do is 115 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: send a signal that the federal government are people's voice, 116 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: and Congress is saying that, um, same sex marriage is legitimate, 117 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: other views of marriage are not legitimate. That's a dangerous 118 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: place to be because uh, that's going to be the 119 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: basis of finding a federal and national public policy um 120 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: in favor of same sex marriage that will be used 121 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: to revoke tax exempt status of anyone who disagrees. Religious 122 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: organizations eventually churches, synagogues, mosques, you mentually grabbed by Menkan 123 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: He's represents the voice of many traditional Jews in the 124 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Jewish community who disagree with the push, the ideological push 125 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: against traditional more religious values and so um the public 126 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: policy finding could follow from this bill that would be 127 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: disastrous for anyone who doesn't agree with what the bill 128 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: is doing. So so very much so the signal that 129 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: sends against the scripture, against traditional Judaism and you know Islam, 130 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: anyone who who religiously or otherwise disagrees, and especially the 131 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: point it's not you know, it's not just religion. It 132 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: could be if you disagree with this as a policy um, 133 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: the bill could be used eventually against you. Is if 134 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: we have a national public policy in favor of same 135 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: sex marriage. And so so that's you know, the signaling effect, 136 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: the impact on the landscape of the litigation that's been 137 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: playing out for years already. You have Jack backed small 138 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: business owners like Jack Phillips Bariteld Stutsman at the sucreen 139 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: Court multiple times trying to defend their rights to simply 140 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: exercise their faith in their business right. So we don't 141 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: want to create a cake for same sex marriage. The 142 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: her their opponents are showing up in their shops forcing 143 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: them to using the course to wors than to when 144 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: other shops will create that same cake. And so um, 145 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: these people are going to be totally thrown under the 146 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: bus by this bill if it passes. There are multiple 147 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: problems with it well, and you know that's why, you know, 148 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: Senator should be encouraged to take on Senator Mike Lee's 149 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: amendment because we can't. There's no there's no understanding that 150 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: the Left would act in good faith because, as you 151 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: just pointed out, they continued assault on Jack Phillips masterpiece 152 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: shop in Colorado and the undermining of him, trying to 153 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: drive him out of business, trying to target him. And 154 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: this is just one example. So the idea that somehow, 155 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, we should just trust that they would act 156 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: in good faith has already been thrown out the window 157 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: when you know, as you pointed out, what they've done 158 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: to Jack Phillip and uh in Colorado. Yeah, you're you know, 159 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: when we when the nation was having a discussion and 160 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: various core cases on the issue of same sex marriage 161 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: years ago, what we heard was, you know, we were told, 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: you know that that others will be tolerated and we 163 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: just want marriage and will respect those who disagree. The 164 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: bill doesn't do that, and behind this is a threat, 165 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: as you note, to people like Jack Phillips, including um, 166 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, anyone who wants to sort of exercise their 167 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: views in the context of the federal government, those who 168 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: want to receive public money, contract with the government, UM, 169 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: anyone in the marketplace, because the bill will open up 170 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: invite more litigation against them, like Jack Phillips. Religious colleges, 171 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: universities be able to live out their faith. Um. And 172 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: I'm aware that you know they're there schools College of 173 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the Ozarks, and other schools in Missouri, the home state 174 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: of Roy Blunt who voted for this bill, who are 175 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: very concerned about the impact that their own Senator UH 176 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: will be helping achieve the negative adverse effect on their 177 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: own religious liberty. The Senator blood is helping usher in 178 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: so you know he Joni Earns from Iowa, Todd Young 179 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: from Indiana, Synthing dilemmas from Wyoming and and the others 180 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: who voted for this. It's a significant problem that they 181 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: would fail to see that this does not protect religious liberty. Um. 182 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: I think you know, they could just be there's some 183 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: messages out there that this does based on the language 184 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: of the bill, but I already reviewed how it doesn't. 185 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: You know, it just it would only protect them in 186 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: these these pastors and these groups who related to the 187 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: solidnization of a marriage, that that is not protect your 188 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: religious liberty. And you know it includes perfunctory language about 189 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: this bill will not impact religious liberty. Well, as you noted, Um, 190 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: that statement requires trust and no one should have it 191 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: that that. You know, the people who oppose religious liberty 192 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: in the area of marriage will honor a statement like that. 193 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: They will not. And the courts in the full way 194 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: to the government we brought down on people's heads. You disagree. 195 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: So you know, Senator, the twelve who voted for this, 196 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Senator Blunt, Burr, Capital Collins, Ernst Lumas, Rokowski, Portman, Romney, Sullivan, 197 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: Tillison among those twelve Republican senators need to understand that 198 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: this is not protect religious liberty. Well, and to your point, 199 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: it broadens out, you know, who could get you know, 200 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: suit or faith persecution for their beliefs. And the rabbi 201 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: had mentioned earlier, Rabbi Mecan. He also went on to say, 202 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: any private actor to initiate a lawsuit or this legislation 203 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: allows any private actor to initiate a lawsuit if religious 204 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: school wishes to recognize only traditional marriages. The National Catholic Register, Uh, 205 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, talked about an analysis that was done on 206 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: what this said and and said that you know, it 207 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: could affect, as your pointing out earlier, even more broadly, 208 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: employment decisions, employees, spousal benefits, eligibility for grants or contracts, accreditation, 209 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: taxi rexemptions, you know, goes on faith based foster care 210 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: and adoption agencies, housing providers. Uh, you know, goes on 211 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: and on and on about the amount of people that 212 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: could be impacted by this, uh, you know, simply because 213 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: you know, they believe what the Bible says. Yeah, that's true. 214 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean basically, if you look at the last you 215 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: know what seven years now since the burgen felt even 216 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: ten years lest you know, decade of struggle in the society, 217 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: society over people's freedom to exercise their beliefs about marriage. 218 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: You look at that landscape, and anything that we've seen 219 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: in that landscape likely is fair game under this bill 220 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: because again, the bill only protects the soleimnization of marriages 221 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: related to certain organizations who are engaged in the practice 222 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: the further insert of religion. So it's very narrow. Everything 223 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: you just outlined, everything I've discussed already here I would 224 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: not be protected. And uh, this is a serious problem 225 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: because this is where the freedom, the disagreement, and the 226 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: struggle over freedom has played out over this issue. It's 227 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: not been over the performance of marriage. No one. No 228 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: one's showing up in a church and saying I want 229 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: you to marry me. And if if if they did 230 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: that to a pass or disagreed, that case would likely 231 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: find its way into court and the path through be 232 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: protected under the First Amendment. That's not something we've seen. 233 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: We've seen everything else, which is, um, we want this 234 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: religious school to to house us in their dorms just 235 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: like anyone else, provide the same treatment, just like in 236 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: contravention of the beliefs of the one they're asking to 237 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: provide that treatment. That's that's the religious freedom issue that 238 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: Jack Phillips a small business cases. You mentioned adoption, that's 239 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: a big one. UM. The treatment, accreditation, taxigent status of 240 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: religious organizations and others with and their interaction with the 241 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: federal government, contracts, grants, um. In addition to just the 242 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: ability of you know, those exercising faith to live it 243 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: out in their business or local community or society in 244 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: other ways. I mean this, this is a serious issue, 245 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and and the beliefs of those who dissent are going 246 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: to be just pushed to a side more and more. 247 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: They're not gonna be treated as legitimate. This is going 248 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: to be the basis of actors in society to justify 249 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: originalizing it. So we're Congress past this bill. We don't 250 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: have to give that person a voice or platform, and 251 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: we can claim we're having a fair debate over the issue. 252 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: We don't need to hear from that because they're beyond 253 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: the balance of polite society, because they're defending marriage between 254 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: a man and a woman. That's kind of what we're 255 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: going to be looking at here, and that's why this 256 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: is so dangerous. And if there wants to be this 257 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: broad our conversation about inclusion, then why are people of 258 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: faith being excluded? There's no there's no good reason. There's 259 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: no good reason for senators to not consider Sendor Leads 260 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: amendment as protective of religious liberty. The fact that Schumer 261 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: sunder Schumer and all you know, his allies who want 262 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: to see this bill past, the fact that they don't 263 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: want to consider Senator Lee's amendment to it, tells you 264 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: what you need to know about their respect religious liberty 265 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: and about where this is all going. Because if they're 266 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: not even consider his amendment, that tells you they don't 267 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: believe the protections and his amendment deserved consideration, and those 268 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: protections are common sense protections. That his amendment simply says 269 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: that the people shall not be UM UH treated on 270 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: the basis of UH, shall not be subject to discriminatory 271 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: action because of their religious belief for moral conviction that 272 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: marriage is the union of a man and a woman UH. 273 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: And it says it goes on to protect the context 274 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: attacks treatment UM funding for grants, contracts and contracts, loans 275 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: and other agreements with the federal government and federal benefits 276 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: and use of federal property and accreditation and and so. 277 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: If that's not even so, if people pushing this bill 278 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: are saying we want to protect religious liberty. They're not 279 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: even able to consider that. They don't want to protect 280 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: relgious liberty. And that needs to be understood by the 281 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: two Republicans who voted voted for this, and everyone looking 282 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: at this debate. Well, and that's what Senator Lindsey Graham said, 283 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: who voted no undability. I believe he tweeted this that 284 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: the sponsors refusal to adopt Senator Lee's amendment, which clearly 285 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: protects religious institutions, says all I need to know about 286 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: the potential risks of this bill, Josh Holly, is that 287 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: this bill could lead to coercion Senator Mike Lee, who 288 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: introduced the amendment that we're talking about, so that this 289 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: is a shell game that ends in the destruction of 290 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: religious liberty in America. You know, I believe was it 291 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: the le amendment was already was it already voted down? No, 292 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: it's not being considered, you know. And so far the 293 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: Democrats have not have not have have refused to consider 294 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: Senator Leaves amendment. Um, you know, if you refuse to 295 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: engage that in discussion that I'm aware of, um, you know. 296 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: And so a senators should vote against cloture unless sender 297 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: leaves amendment is adopted at the bill, a Senator LEAs 298 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: amendment is not attached this bill. Those senators, even the 299 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: ones who voted so far for this bill, should refuse 300 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: to vote for Culture. We're going to see two more 301 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: votes next week and the five thirty on they thirty PM, 302 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: there's a vote schedule that requires sixty centator, so they 303 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: need they need ten of those twelve to um uh 304 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: to vote for for the that on that on that 305 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: procedural vote. On the twenty two days after that, there's 306 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: going to be another sixty vote threshold vote I think, 307 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: to proceed to quote final, the final culture vote, and 308 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: then they'll be final passage requiring fifty votes. So so 309 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: they but senator leaves amendment's not even been in the mix. 310 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: And so you know, our our our position is that 311 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, senator should not vote for Culture on this 312 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: unless Senator leads amend it is actually adopted at the bail. 313 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: If it's not, the discussion over the over good faith 314 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: and religious freedom is over. They don't want to protect 315 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: religious freedom. That's the end of the story. Um So, yeah, 316 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: they have refused to consider it so far. Though. Let's 317 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: take a quick commercial break. More on their respect for 318 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: Marriage Act. On the other side, how fundamental is religious 319 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: freedom to a free society really just liberty to a 320 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: free society. I mean it's yeah, it's it's totally essential, 321 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, and I think there's a you know, it's 322 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: an interesting to reflect on this over Thanksgiving as well, 323 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: right because the faunidly of our country was related to 324 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: to the people fleeing, you know, across an ocean to 325 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: have the freedom to live out their faith. And so 326 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: it might not be equal points to everyone that everyone 327 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: should recognize the value that it contributes to a society 328 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: and the necessity of allowing the space for those who 329 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: want to live out their faith. No one should not 330 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: be forced to violate their conscience in a free society, 331 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: and that's what we're dealing with here in this in 332 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: this context, but we need to provide the space for 333 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: people of up their faith. Not only is it the 334 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: right thing to do as a as a matter of 335 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: American um a principle you know of our American constitutional 336 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: or public going back to our founding um. You know, 337 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: not only is it right on that score, you know, 338 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: when we look at for people who can't relate to this, 339 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: maybe as much personally. Look at freedoms that they enjoy, 340 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: freedom of the press or freedom of speech, free speech. 341 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: These are things that have defined America since its founding. 342 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: So they're foundational and that in that score because they 343 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: produce the full even flourishing, allow people to research full potential. 344 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: But they also add value. Right, there's millions and millions 345 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: of dollars of value added to our society by the 346 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: contributions of religious foster adoption provide ters for example, um, 347 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: those caring for for for the poor and needy, those 348 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: providing housing housing for the poor and needy, educational institutions, 349 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: and those contributing to the education of our society. These 350 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: are these are massive inputs from religious community. So if 351 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: you don't allow the freedom of the religious committees to 352 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: do to live those areas out as they got to 353 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: their faith, and force them to violate their conscience in them, 354 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: there's compably gonna drop out, They're gonna cease and doing 355 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: then they're gonna withdraw. That not only stamp stomps on 356 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: the freedom of people that America should be ashamed to 357 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: be stomping on, but but it actually it causes a 358 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: degradation of our society's well being. Uh, you know, we're 359 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: taking the institutions society, tearing them apart. A big part 360 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: of those are religious institutions. What is this administration, the 361 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Biden administration's record on religious liberty. Yeah, I mean it's 362 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: it's it's not good. You know. The Biden administration has 363 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: made a point to undo virtually all of the previous 364 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: administration's accomplishments on religious liberty, which include the protection of 365 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: conscience for um, those in the healthcare community with regard 366 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: to their they're they're forcing them to participate in abortions 367 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: or other medical procedures against their conscience. Um. The administration 368 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: is undone. The other federal actions and tax are executive 369 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: orders that that that President Trump had put into place. Um. 370 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: The administration, you know, it does not supporting for instance, 371 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: in this context they want to sign this bill into law, 372 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: they don't. They don't want religious freedom protections in it. Um. 373 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: They they've failed to prioritize the issue internationally. As Secretary State, 374 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: like Pompeo, Investador at Large, Sam brown Back, you've done 375 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: in the State Department under under the previous administration, We've 376 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: made a point to send the signal and that we 377 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: will protect those around the world according to their faith 378 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: and um and actually do it. You know, we we 379 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: pressured Turkey when they detained Pastor Andrew Brunson, put economic 380 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: sanctions on them, forcing his return, them to release him 381 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: to come back to the United States. That matters, you know. 382 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Now this administration is instead is dropping it's its promotion 383 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: of religious freedom worldwide, instead going around and pressuring governments 384 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: to modify their cultural stance on crazy gender ideology issues. 385 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the priority of the Biden administration Internationally. 386 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: It's casting a shameful shadow over the US. You know, 387 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: I've talked to people internationally and they think, they're like, 388 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: this is you know, this is this is shameful what 389 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: we We're looking to the US for help and we're 390 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: feeling pressured by the US on our on our social 391 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: views and our countries. And they think everyone in the 392 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: US believes these things. And I'm I'm telling them though, 393 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: you have a big segment of the US population that 394 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: is not agree with Biden's heavy hand pushing these issues 395 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: around the world. And so yeah, overall, the the the 396 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: rectord has been pretty bad and it needs to be better. 397 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we've you still got u the issue China's 398 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: treatment of weakers in its concentration camp system, and treatment 399 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: of Christians across the Middle East, treatment of the believers 400 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: in Iran, and we need to be highlighting these situations 401 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: internationally and not neglecting them. And unfortunately Biden needs to 402 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: give them more attention. Why do you think this administration 403 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: has so much hostility towards religion or towards people of 404 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: faith as it seems, Yeah, I think you know, it's 405 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: it's um. I think they they failed to understand that 406 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: religious freedom is the right thing to protect, and they 407 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: fail to see the value that there's it's almost like 408 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: this worldview and this outlook that we can get by 409 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: without without this whole religion thing, without these these Christians 410 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: who who are increasingly being um uh you know, the 411 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: subject of of lea goals and having labels put on 412 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 1: them domestically in the United States, and and uh, you know, 413 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: being framed in a way is almost a problem to 414 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: society instead of a value added and the contribution. And 415 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: so we really need to cut through the false of 416 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: the narratives. I mean, misinformation is a term that's used 417 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot these days, right, Well, there actually is misinformation 418 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: out there about Christian beliefs, um, other religious communities beliefs, 419 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: the way in which these are interacting society. So I 420 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: think there's a failure to really grasp the truth about 421 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: Christianity and specific religion in general that that helps people, 422 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, for instance, in high levels of the Bide administration, 423 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: understand that this is a value added society and we 424 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: actually shouldn't be wanting to marginalize Christians. We should be 425 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: welcoming them in for their contributions. So I think there's 426 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: a dangerous shift under way that that that's you know, 427 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: sort of the reason, Uh, the answer to your question 428 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: is there's a danger shift that that is leading um 429 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: a worldview shift among among officials, members of the Biden 430 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: administration and other you know, seats of power in our society. 431 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: That this shift is leading them to to not see 432 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: the value and even say well this is a horss 433 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: for me to exclude it. Well, that's a dangerous place 434 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: to be when I you know, the light of sort 435 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: of what I held outlined earlier, which is the contributions 436 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: of religious communities, we should not be We've got a 437 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of problems as in society. We need everyone at 438 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: the table seeking to help solve them. Religious communities want 439 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: to do that, so we need to be welcoming that, 440 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: not marginalizing it. Quick commercial brank more on religious liberty 441 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: in America. But I honestly think you can draw a 442 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: direct correlation between the client of religion in the country 443 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: and the increased societal fall that we are as a country. 444 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's this high fashion brand Balanciaga, and 445 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: they're facing backlash as they could or as they should, 446 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: for this disgusting ad campaign featuring child models holding teddy bears. 447 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: The teddy bears are dressed in bondage gear. In one 448 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: of the the ads, there's an image of the Supreme 449 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: Court opinion case in a child pornography case as a 450 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: prop promoting the handbag. It's just I don't know. I 451 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: don't think that, you know, a decade ago, that this 452 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: would be anywhere near acceptable, and the idea that if 453 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: a fashion house like Blendsiago could think that there's anything 454 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: okay with this. It's just it's just outrageous and it's disgusting. 455 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: But I think it's sort of underscores where we are 456 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: today as a society and how depraved and disgusting our 457 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: society is, to be honest, yeah, I mean, you know, 458 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: children have really been in the crosshairs of the the 459 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: the sexual the sexualization of society. Children have been the 460 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: focus of so much of of this push to sexualized society, 461 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: and I mean this has been going on for some time, 462 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: but we are seeing an increasing focus on children. And 463 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: that's I think, in part why this is so horrific. 464 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there'd be problems with it even 465 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: if it had an adults in the ad. But but 466 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: you've got a little child in it in the act um. 467 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: It tells us where we are. And I think, you know, 468 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: people behind stuff like this just failed to have a 469 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: frame of reference for where anyone else in society is at. 470 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes their own worldview that they don't have a component 471 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: which enables them to say, well, there could be a 472 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: problem with this in my you know, from the perspective 473 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: of the person behind this, they probably are thinking, well, 474 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't see any problem with this. You know, this 475 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: is the way I've I've lived and the world I've 476 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: been in, and it's about me what I want to 477 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: do sexually. Well, that's a very dangerous spot to be 478 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: in as a society, and we have a lot of 479 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: people thinking that way. I think we've been sort of 480 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 1: on that road. This is a data point. Thankfully, it's 481 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: getting attention. You know, children. I think more people need 482 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: to wake up about the targeting of children this area. 483 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: I think they are and I think this is behind 484 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: the front of rights pushed back against the sexualization of 485 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: children in schools that we saw in Louden County, Virginia 486 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: several years ago, leading to um, you have no youngin's election. 487 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: You're seeing this. We've seen this, this issue arise around 488 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: the country, seen a rise in Florida, the push of curricula, 489 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: the sexualization of children in schools, and otherwise jack the 490 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: drag creen story our issue. Um, thankfully people are waking up. 491 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: But I think more people need to wake up to 492 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: the dangers of the road we're walking down, you know, 493 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: the the the push for children to receive puberty blockers, 494 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: frouss sex harmon's gender transition surgeries. Thankfully, The York Times 495 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: even called attention of the problems with the East the 496 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: other week. UM, more and more people are in parents 497 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: are waking up to this. But as you know, um, 498 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: these are these are this is a dangerous data point. Um. 499 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: But so we just need to work and pray for 500 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: more to see what society is doing to its children. 501 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: And you know, if we can, if we can increase 502 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: that concern, we can address these problems. Travis Weber, thanks 503 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: so much for joining the show. I appreciate the work 504 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: you're doing at Family Research Council, and I hope people 505 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: who are listening, you know, get active. Tell your senator 506 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: to vote no on their Respect for Marriage Act. It's 507 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: not as it seems, and it could undermine religious liberty 508 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: in America. So Travis, I appreciate you taking the time. 509 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, And let me just say too real quick, um, 510 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,239 Speaker 1: if they want to contact their senators, they can go 511 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: to f r C action dot org slash marriage. That's 512 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: f RC action dot org slash marriage and find information 513 00:30:43,920 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: there to reach out to their senators, sellers, travels, whether 514 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: or the Family Research Council on what I think is 515 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: a really important issue, protecting religious liberty in America. That's 516 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: what America is about. So if we lose that, I 517 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: think we lose the country. So I appreciate his time. 518 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for listening. I want to 519 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: thank John Cassio as well for putting together this show 520 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. 521 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: Please leave us a review, give us a reading on 522 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: Apple podcast. I love reading those and saying that thanks 523 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: so much for listening.