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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: So doctor Elena Gabore, let's go through the subjects as

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Speaker 2: we started them. So let's talk about chronic pain and

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Speaker 2: then we'll return back to the others because I made

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Speaker 2: you put a pin in that one. So chronic pain,

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Speaker 2: according to the doctors, is pain that persists for longer

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Speaker 2: than six months and that you know, that could be

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Speaker 2: two on a ten scale, it could be eight on

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Speaker 2: a ten scale. But usually chronic pain is something that

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Speaker 2: people start to treat with pharmaceuticals. I know I went

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Speaker 2: through that. I gave that up. I don't use anything anymore,

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Speaker 2: but that was a big thing. That was an easy fix,

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Speaker 2: I think for doctors.

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Speaker 1: To do that.

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Speaker 2: And I still have the chronic pain, but I sort

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Speaker 2: of learned to live with it a bit. How does

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Speaker 2: hypnosis help with chronic pain?

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Speaker 3: I could give you an example. I had a client,

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Speaker 3: a lady who came to me with a chronic back

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Speaker 3: pain that she experienced for more than five years, and

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Speaker 3: in hypnosis, I decided to guide her through the sources

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Speaker 3: of her pain. I never tell to my clients where

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Speaker 3: to go in hypnosis. It's their subconscious and their superconscious

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Speaker 3: self that know those details. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: originated in this life in another life. I have no idea,

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Speaker 3: So I just tell them go to the sources of

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Speaker 3: your pain. And she started to describe a life in

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Speaker 3: which she was a young gypsy girl carrying buckets of water,

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Speaker 3: and I thought maybe that could be related to her

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Speaker 3: back pain. But when she got close to her house,

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Speaker 3: she saw her house on fire, and she started to

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Speaker 3: cry because she realized her grandmother, who was her only relative,

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Speaker 3: was in the house and could not help her. So

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Speaker 3: after she saw that event and went through that emotional thing,

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Speaker 3: she saw herself in a concentration camp. There were a

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Speaker 3: lot of people there. She did not know anyone. She

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Speaker 3: was starving, very weak, very sad, and at some point

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Speaker 3: they had to go somewhere aligned and she dropped it. Literally.

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Speaker 3: The amazing thing is after this session her thing completely disappeared.

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Speaker 3: This is how amazing hypnosis can work. It had a

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Speaker 3: connection with her in thing from that life, and the

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Speaker 3: pain she experienced in this life was only a reminder

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Speaker 3: a messenger saying, you have to uncover something about yourself.

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Speaker 3: You have to understand something about yourself because when she

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Speaker 3: left to that experience, that past life, as call it.

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Speaker 3: Like that past life, she left with unresolved feelings. When

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Speaker 3: you leave your life with unresolved feelings, with sadness, with anger,

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Speaker 3: with frustration, with any negative feelings, you will start the

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Speaker 3: next life on the same level of vibration. You cannot

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Speaker 3: exit a life on a certain level of evolution and

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Speaker 3: start another life on a different level of evolution. You

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Speaker 3: have to continue it from where you started, and you

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Speaker 3: create a life that will resuscitate those feelings you left with.

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Speaker 3: And I talk to her. After a while, she did

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Speaker 3: not have the pain anymore. It completely disappeared. And I

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Speaker 3: see that in much practice with fears, with depression, with

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Speaker 3: recital thoughts, with anxiety, I see it constantly.

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Speaker 2: So that answer somewhat surprises me, not that there isn't

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Speaker 2: that path. And I again, we can return to the

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Speaker 2: idea of past life regression. But I would have thought

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Speaker 2: the answer would have been more like about sort of

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Speaker 2: using hypnosis to rewire or at least to reprogram our relationship,

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Speaker 2: our mental relationship with physical pain.

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Speaker 3: You could do that, but since you can also completely

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Speaker 3: remove the source, why wouldn't you address the source of

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Speaker 3: the problem you know, if you have that tool, why

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Speaker 3: wouldn't you use it? And the client was ecstatic. Her

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Speaker 3: orthopedic surgeon wanted to operate on her right, he wanted

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Speaker 3: surgery on her, and her physician told her, do not

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Speaker 3: do that, go and find the hypnotherapist. That's how she

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Speaker 3: ended up as my session.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I totally believe that, by the way,

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Speaker 2: In terms of that, you kind of want to try

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Speaker 2: everything before you do something that drastic, especially when they're

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Speaker 2: telling right, when they're telling you things like and I

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Speaker 2: kind of when you go through the long list of

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Speaker 2: what the side effects could be or the different ways

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Speaker 2: of the surgery could go wrong, Yeah, you'd be crazy

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Speaker 2: not to try every other possible thing, if nothing else,

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Speaker 2: so that you could go into the surgery without focusing

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Speaker 2: on what could have been if you had taken another path.

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Speaker 3: All right, And does it really matter if those experiences

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Speaker 3: were past lives or imagination. It really doesn't. For her,

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Speaker 3: she is so happy that she was able to release

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Speaker 2: This sort of thing right, and when I had my

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Speaker 2: chronic pain at its worst, that is what I experienced.

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Speaker 2: It was very difficult to even at one point just

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Speaker 2: to get out of bed. I had to There was

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Speaker 2: a way I could do it, but it was awkward

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Speaker 2: and so I hated that. But that passed, unfortunately. But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, I also know that there are

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Speaker 2: ongoing effects for certain pharmaceuticals which you know you'd rather

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Speaker 2: not deal with. And I'm not an addictive person by nature,

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Speaker 2: so I don't have the problems that other people do

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Speaker 2: when it comes to opioids or other things. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think I was kind of kind of dodged a

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Speaker 2: bullet on that anyway. But when you think about people

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Speaker 2: that end up being addicted to opioids, if they had

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Speaker 2: only tried some other alternative therapies, they may never have

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Speaker 2: been under those circumstances to begin with.

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Speaker 3: Correct Correct, So it's worth trying. It lasts two hours

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Speaker 3: and it costs around two hundred dollars. It's worth it, right.

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Speaker 2: No, I accept that you said something interesting. I'm king

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Speaker 2: on when you talked about it. What if it it

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Speaker 2: could be an imaginary past life.

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Speaker 3: I know what it is, but I know what people

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Speaker 3: do leave. So even if some people are able to well,

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Speaker 3: it's just my imagination. Does it really matter if it's

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Speaker 3: lives or imagination or anything else, you know, does it

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Speaker 3: really matter when you get rid of pain or whatever

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Speaker 3: other symptom you may have.

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Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't it is? It wouldn't it be unusual for

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Speaker 2: somebody to imagine something really bad that most people when

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Speaker 2: they imagine a past life, they imagine a good one.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: No, a lot of people what they access is not

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Speaker 3: really pleasant, but it helps them release whatever they had.

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Speaker 3: For example, in my last hypnotherapy training, I teach certification

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Speaker 3: programs in hypnotherapy, path life regression, life between lives, medical hypnosis,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I have lots of psychotherapists, medical doctors, psychiatrists,

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Speaker 3: got a psychotherapist in my class that had a horrible migraine.

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Speaker 3: And you can imagine at the first practice we had

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Speaker 3: with a script for task life regression. So a person

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Speaker 3: that never has done that was guiding her and she

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Speaker 3: released the migraine, and she had the migraine four years

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Speaker 3: for decades, and the other person wasn't even a specialist.

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Speaker 3: her and she was able to release her migraines. Isn't

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Speaker 3: that amazing?

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Speaker 2: It is amazing and I accept, you know, especially after

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Speaker 2: reading the literature. So I went through today and I

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Speaker 2: was looking at the printed, peer reviewed medical literature about

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Speaker 2: hypnosis in preparation for and there is so much support.

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Speaker 2: Just I mean, how many anecdotes like that does it

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Speaker 2: take before you end up being able to do some

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Speaker 2: very interesting quantitative work for the number of people who

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Speaker 2: come into their doctor and go out feeling better after

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Speaker 2: they've seen a hypnotherapist and then gone back to the

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Speaker 2: doctor and had that verified. And I'm not even saying

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Speaker 2: that necessarily like a disc moved or an arm you know,

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Speaker 2: the bones healed themselves or anything like that. I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying that if they no longer felt pain, and whether

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Speaker 2: that's psychological or physical pain, if they no longer had

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Speaker 2: migraines to use your example, well then does it really

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Speaker 2: matter they got there? You know, they're not missing work,

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Speaker 2: They're not going to be lying in bed with the

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Speaker 3: Be Yeah, And I noticed that some of the clients

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Speaker 3: tell to their doctors how they were able to overcome it.

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Speaker 3: And some doctors have studied hypnosis, have heard about hypnosis

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Speaker 3: and they really believe it and they say, wow, that's

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Speaker 3: that's amazing. And others have not heard about hypnosis, have

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Speaker 3: not heard about medical hypnosis, and they tried to explain

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Speaker 3: them in other ways. Maybe it was what of a

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Speaker 3: medication they.

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Speaker 2: Pod for psycho.

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Speaker 3: Exactly when you have the hypnosis session, you know, they

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Speaker 3: try to justify in a different way. But I think

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Speaker 3: once as a medical practitioner, you'll look into it, and

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Speaker 3: you look at the literature and the results, you will

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Speaker 3: start understanding that healing takes more than what we think

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Speaker 3: in medical in the medical field, and the subconscious part

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Speaker 3: of our being is very powerful and it could help

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Speaker 3: us heal or balance or release what I was not

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Speaker 3: good for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, I think this idea of

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Speaker 2: that many people internationally are acculturated and that they are

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Speaker 2: taught within the family to accept a career, to accept relationships,

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Speaker 2: later when they find out they're dealing with depression, when

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Speaker 2: they're dealing with, you know, these profound, life changing, chronic

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Speaker 2: mental or emotional or psychological conditions that they can't get

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Speaker 2: rid of because from the very beginning they were taught

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Speaker 2: this is the direction you have to go in.

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Speaker 3: Whether you like it or not, yes, exactly, it's hypnosis

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Speaker 3: is extreme. You mentioned depression. It's extremely effective with depression

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Speaker 3: and suicidal thoughts. The societal thoughts go away after the

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Speaker 3: first session, and I've described in my book two cases

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Speaker 3: like that, Mia and Professor Benn. My book is called

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Speaker 3: Home at the Tree of Life. It's described the journey

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Speaker 3: of healing of four of my hypnotherapy clients and the

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Speaker 3: amazing discoveries they made about the journey of the soul

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Speaker 3: and the nature of reality. And then I see it

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Speaker 3: in my practice constantly. Also with the panic attacks, they

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Speaker 3: disappear after the first session. We do indignosis. Of course,

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Speaker 3: their depression or their anxiety doesn't disappear in one session,

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Speaker 3: but in a few sessions they're able to feel much

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Speaker 3: better or completely healed.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm so glad.

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Speaker 3: Every medical professional should have training in hypnosis and all

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Speaker 3: forms of hypnosis, not only suggestion diagnosis where you give

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Speaker 3: suggestions to the subconscious mind to replace the negatively oriented,

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Speaker 3: fear based, disempowering, illogical, irrational beliefs, but also training in

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Speaker 3: regression therapy in all forms of regression, because that technique

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Speaker 3: is extremely powerful. Those therapies are very powerful.

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