1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: This episode of Haunted Road is extra special to me. 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: It takes place in a town where many of you 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: know I lived for a time, and many of my 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: families still call it home, so I'm there at least 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: a few times a year. It's quaint yet eclectic, and 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: the whole main street is very, very haunted. Today's location 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: is a bit elusive to me, though I've been inside 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: it many times, and I've glided my hands across the 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: rich wooden railings in the lobby, wondering what stories they 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: could tell. But I've never investigated it, never even had 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: a paranormal experience there. And let me tell you, after 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: the stories and history we will discuss today, I am 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: determined to change this asa. Come with me to Placerville, California, 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: otherwise known as Old Hangtown, and let's visit the Carry 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: House Hotel. I'm Amy Bruney, and this is Haunted Road. 18 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: Nestled in the Eldorado National Forest just east of Sacramento. 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: There's a small city called Placerville. It's a colorful community, 20 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: literally pink and blue buildings line the streets with old 21 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: fashioned facades that feel like something out of a technicolor 22 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Old West. One brick structure on Main Street sticks out. 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: It's four stories tall, so it towers over its shorter neighbors. 24 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Brightly lit and welcoming, A second story balcony is encircled 25 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: by a wrought iron railing strung with lights, all under 26 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: a green awning. More lights dot the roof, illuminating a 27 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: sign that identifies the property as carry House. On the 28 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: side of the building. Another sign special Hotel inside the 29 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: lobby boasts green carpet with a swirling circular pattern reminiscent 30 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: of leaves. The stained glass windows depict the four seasons. 31 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: According to Jerry Beard's article with Style Magazine titled in History, 32 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: carry House Hotel in Plastererville, the forty or so guest 33 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: rooms are all upstairs, and visitors ascend an ornate mahogany 34 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: staircase to reach them. Each chamber has furniture and decor 35 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: appropriate to the eighteen hundreds, elegant nightstands, decorative moldings, and 36 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: windows draped with white curtains. While the building originally had 37 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: shared communal restrooms, for guests. 38 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: These days, each. 39 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: Room has its very own bathroom. Some of the more 40 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: sizeable suites have kitchenettes as well. The business was built 41 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: in nineteen fifteen, reportedly constructed from the bricks of another 42 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: hotel with the same name that previously stood at the 43 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: same address. Before that, a saloon beckoned customers to the 44 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: same spot, called the Eldorado Hotel and Saloon. It was 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: founded in the rough and tumble Old West era, which 46 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: is when European prospectors first settled in the region. The 47 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: California gold Rush began in the mid nineteenth century just 48 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: a short distance away from Placerville, which was originally dubbed 49 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: Old Dry Diggins. According to the City of Plasarville's Plasarville 50 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 2: City History website, the name was a very literal description 51 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: of the process miners would follow to try to recover 52 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: gold from the area. They'd dig up carts of dry dirt, 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: then dip the soil into running water to wash away 54 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: the sediment and sort out small bits of ore. Life 55 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: in Old Dry Diggins could be brutal. Buyers often swept 56 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: through town, and because the buildings were made of wood 57 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: and built close together, a small spark could easily burn 58 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: the whole outpost to the ground. The settlement ignited three 59 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: separate times in eighteen fifty six alone. Additionally, communities like 60 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Old Dry Diggins were often lawless, and it was common 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: for citizens to take justice into their own hands. According 62 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: to a journalist named Edward Gouldbuffem, a vigilante mob was 63 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: moved to violence in January of eighteen forty nine. That month, 64 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: five men, none of whom spoke English, were caught attempting 65 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: to rob a man named Lopez. They were arrested and 66 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: sentenced to be publicly whipped thirty nine times. However, after 67 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: their punishment was dealt, another accuser came forward, claiming the 68 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: five had been involved in another attempted robbery and homicide. 69 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: It's hard to say if the accusation was credible because 70 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: the men weren't granted a fair trial. As local historian 71 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: and reporter Doug Noble reported in an October two thousand 72 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: and nine issue of The Mountain Democrat, they were too 73 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: weak from the recent lashing to get to the courtroom, 74 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: so while they recovered in a nearby house, the locals 75 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: threw together a makeshift jury and weighed their guilt without 76 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: taking the accused robber's statements or giving them a chance 77 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: to defend themselves. Edward Buffum was present for them trial, 78 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: and he watched as the townspeople were roused into a 79 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: violent frenzy. One person shouted that the five men should 80 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: be hanged, and many others cheered the idea. When Edward 81 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: tried to calm them and make them listen to reason, 82 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: the crowd turned on him until he quieted. Edward watched 83 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: in horror as the rest of the mob dragged the 84 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: condemned men out of the house. It's possible the accused 85 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: didn't even know what was going on. They repeatedly asked 86 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: for an interpreter, but the locals refused even this mercy. 87 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: Edward writes that the five were blindfolded, bound, and placed 88 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: atop a wagon with nooses around their necks. When the 89 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: wagon pulled forward, the newses tightened, and the men met 90 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: their fates hung from a white oak tree. In an 91 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: article titled Criminal Annals, Part three, Buffem's version of the hangings, 92 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: Doug Noble quotes the article. Edward later wrote about the event. 93 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: He said, this was the first execution I ever witnessed. 94 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: God grant that it may be the last. Sadly, this 95 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: proved to be far from an isolated incident. Another extra 96 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: judicial hanging occurred the following year. In eighteen fifty, the 97 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Eldorado Hotel and Saloon had recently been erected right across 98 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: the street from the Oak Tree, and one day at 99 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: the hotel a brawl broke out over a card game. 100 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: The fight escalated until a man named Richard Crone nicknamed 101 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Irish Dick, stabbed another person three times. Sadly, his victim 102 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: did not survive the attack. When Irish Dick was tried 103 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: for the murder, a huge crowd of almost two thousand 104 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: angry locals assembled outside the courthouse. A judge determined the 105 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: killer should be sent to jail, and apparently this was 106 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: too lenient for the townsfolk. When Irish Dick was led 107 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: out of the courthouse, the crowd swarmed over him. Doug 108 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: Noble writes that they tossed a lasso over Irish Dick's 109 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: head and used it to haul him over to a 110 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: nearby white oak dad tree, the same tree the five 111 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: accused robbers were hanged from the year before. Like them, 112 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: Irish Dick died suspended from its boughs in spite of 113 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: the fact that he never received a formal death sentence. 114 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: Thanks to incidents like these, the community earned the nickname Hangtown. 115 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: For fifty years, the official town logo featured an image 116 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: of a tree with a dangling noose, and the oak 117 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: that was used for these hangings became a tourist destination 118 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: in its own right. After it was chopped down, a 119 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: bar was built around the stump, called appropriately the Hangman's Tree. Today, 120 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: you can still trek to three to zero eight Main 121 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Street and view what remains of the old oak in 122 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: the basement. Local lore aside, it can be tricky to 123 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: speculate on just how common these hangings were, as record 124 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: keeping at the time was less than thorough. That's not 125 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: only true of vigilante activities, but also the day to 126 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: day operations in Hangtown. For example, there were many rumors 127 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: which are almost impossible to verify, of a front desk 128 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: clerk who worked at the carry House Hotel at some 129 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: point in the nineteenth century. His name was Stan Levine. 130 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: It's hard to say if he was an employee at 131 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: the Eldorado Hotel in Saloon, which operated from eighteen forty 132 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: nine to eighteen fifty six. Or the carry House hotel, 133 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: which was built at the same location after a fire 134 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: burned down the initial structure. Either way, there are no 135 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: records of Stan or his tenure, but rumor suggests that 136 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: when he was alive he had a terrible cough. The 137 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: visit El Dorado website also says he was prone to 138 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: drinking to excess, and when he was inebriated, he tended 139 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: to get belligerent and hansy. He had a reputation for 140 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: grabbing his customer's bottoms when he was drunk. It said 141 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: that he died in the hotel where he worked, but 142 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: again this is difficult to verify. Accounts of his death 143 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: very wildly. In some stories, he was murdered after making 144 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: a pass at a male client while they both stood 145 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 2: at the top of a staircase. The customer was reportedly 146 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: so enraged by the same sex flirtation that he drew 147 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: a knife and stabs Stand twice in the chest. Wounded, 148 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Stan fell down the stairs and took his last breath 149 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: at the bottom. In other accounts, the killer was a 150 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: jealous husband who flew into a murderous fury after Stan 151 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: flirted with his wife once again. It said the deadly 152 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: confrontation took place on the stairwell, but in this version, 153 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: the husband shot Stan at the bottom. In her book 154 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: Haunted Hotels of the California Gold Country, author Nancy Williams 155 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: writes that Stan dragged himself from the stairs to the parlor, 156 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: where the woman he'd been flirting with watched in horror. 157 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: Stan died as he stared at her tear filled eyes 158 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: and still. Other narratives described Stan simply succumbing to alcohol 159 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: related illness after years of excessive drinking. However, he died, 160 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: it said his spirit remains in the carry house. When 161 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: visitors approached the base of the staircase, they say, a 162 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: wave of great sadness comes over them, and it seems 163 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: like he it never got over his propensity for pinching 164 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: people's bottoms. Guests, men and women alike sometimes feel his 165 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: touch on their backsides in the hotel's lobby and in 166 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: the alley and sidewalk outside the building. Others here stands 167 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: familiar cough or a whistle inside, and when strange mists 168 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: form in the lobby it could be evidence of his presence. 169 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: Stan seems prone to wandering out of the hotel. It's 170 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: reported that the front door often opens on its own, 171 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: and in a bookstore that sits near a bar stand 172 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: used to frequent books often go flying off the shelves. 173 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: Linda Baucher wrote in gold Rush Ghosts of Placerville, Colomba, 174 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: and Georgetown that Stan tears the books down in frustration 175 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: after finding there's no liquor in the shop. However, Stan 176 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: is believed to be equally destructive in a local winery 177 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: tasting room, how Dare. 178 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: You, which he also visits. 179 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 2: Accounts say he shatters wine glasses and interferes with electronics. 180 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: On one occasion, he cranked the tasting room's music up 181 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: to round out the sound of a customer talking. When 182 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: the bartenders snapped at stand to knock it off, the 183 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: sound abruptly cut out and wouldn't start again for the 184 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: rest of the day. When the wine tasting room is 185 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: supposedly empty, security cameras capture balls of light that have 186 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: been attributed to the deceased desk clerk. In addition, there 187 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: have been accounts of piano music playing at the top 188 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: of the carry houses stairs, disembodied footsteps, and an unseen 189 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: woman crying. The elevators run without being called smelling strongly 190 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: of cigar smoke. Items move on their own, including breakfast food, 191 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: which is sometimes found tossed around the dining area in 192 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: the early hours. Numerous spirits have been spotted in the hotel, 193 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: but many of their identities are unknown. Accounts describe a 194 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: pretty woman in a blue dress and a young girl 195 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: who have each appeared on the staircase. Some suggest a 196 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: former kitchen employee is responsible for the sounds of dishes 197 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: being washed when the kitchen should be empty. That staffer 198 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: may also be the culprit when the breakfast food is disturbed. 199 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: On the carry House page of Haunted Houses dot Com, 200 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: Julie Carr writes of one occasion when an employee stepped 201 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: onto the balcony only to find a man in Old 202 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: West style clothing sitting at a table playing cards. While 203 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: the workers stood unsure of how to react, the prospector's 204 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: spirit slowly faded until no evidence remained to suggest he 205 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: was ever there. Perhaps the most famous specter to appear 206 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: in the Carrey House Hotel may be Black Bart, an 207 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: infamous outlaw who stayed at the hotel during his life. 208 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: Rumors suggest his spirit still lurks in the building. In 209 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: addition to these sightings, strange things happen in the hotel 210 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: that defy explanation. According to author Linda Boucher, on one occasion, 211 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: a woman checked into the carry house and was assigned 212 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: to stay in room two o seven. She was in 213 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: her room when it came time to sign the guest book. 214 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: She pulled out her black inkpen, pressed the tip to paper, 215 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: and everything she und wrote came out blood red. Disturbed, 216 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: the woman paused in confusion. Then she tried to write again, 217 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: and once more, scarlet letters splattered across the page. This 218 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: was so upsetting she ran out of the room with 219 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: the guest books still in her hands, and didn't stop 220 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: until she reached the front desk. There, the woman handed 221 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: the pen to the clerk, but when they tried to write, 222 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: the ink came out and standard black. Another account, one 223 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 2: more from Linda, describes two women who were spending the 224 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: night in room three oh seven in April twenty twelve. 225 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: One of them woke in the middle of the night 226 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: because her friend was shouting, help me. I am terrified. 227 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: When she rushed over to check on her friend, the 228 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: one who'd cried for help said she'd seen a man 229 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: in a plaid shirt lying in bed with her. When 230 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: she tried to get away, she found herself unable to 231 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: move until her friend ran up to help. Many accounts 232 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: feature Room two twelve, said to be the most haunted 233 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: room at the Carey House hotel. It's often chilly, even 234 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: when the rest of the building is toasty warm. Electronics 235 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: lose power rapidly, a rocking chair sways on its own, 236 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: and visitors detect an ominous ticking noise that doesn't have 237 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: any clear source. In this room, paranormal investigators have made 238 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: contact with the man they've identified as Arnold Widman, a 239 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: teamster who stayed there sometime in the eighteen hundreds. It's 240 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: said he fell ill with influenza and died in the chamber. 241 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: Since then, numerous people claim they've seen him in the room. 242 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes he has a long beard, other times witnesses can 243 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: only see him from the chest down, an apparition of 244 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: blue jeans, a flannel shirt and boots, but no shoulder, 245 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: arms or head. His devastated widow is also said to 246 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: haunt the carry house. When she passes through Room two twelve, 247 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: you can tell because the whole area smells of lavender. 248 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: She's also been seen in nearby rooms like two O nine, 249 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: which is also often unseasonably chilly. All these stories are 250 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: just the tip of the iceberg. Some believe the entire 251 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: town of Placerville is haunted. 252 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. 253 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: While the carry House is a hub for the city's 254 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: spectral activity. 255 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: To help me. 256 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: Make sense of the many, many supernatural activities here, I'm 257 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: talking to Charlotte Cosa. She heads up a paranormal team 258 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: in California called California Haunts and has investigated the carry 259 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: House on multiple occasions. That's coming up after the break. 260 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: I am now joined by a blast from the past 261 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: for me, and we'll go into that a little bit shortly. 262 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: But Charlotte Cosa is joining me, and she is the 263 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: founder of California Haunts in California, a longtime paranormal team 264 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: that I've known of for years, and so it's so 265 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: great to kind of catch up with you. 266 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Charlotte. Thanks for joining well, thank you for inviting me. 267 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 268 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ironic that, like I'm talking about the carry 269 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: House and I've never investigated there because my whole family 270 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: lives in Plasterville and the Bay Area, and like I'm 271 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: in Plasterville multiple times a year, and I've always wanted 272 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: to investigate it, and so I kind of knew it 273 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: was like, I know, I know someone who's investigated this place, 274 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: and your name popped up immediately. 275 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: So I've been around. 276 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I've investigated a lot of places in Plasterville. 277 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: I love Plasterville, by the way, I feel like. 278 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I moved there my senior year in high school, 279 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: so that was a long time ago, and it just 280 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: really was so charming. And back then it was still 281 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: kind of artsy and rednecky, and nobody really knew about it. 282 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: But now everybody knows about it, and it's really blown up, 283 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: so the secret's out. But it's a great little town. 284 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: But it used to just be like where you stop 285 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: to go to McDonald's and use the bathroom on the 286 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: way to Tahoe, right, right, right. 287 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: So it becomes so much more. 288 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Main Street, I mean, every building practically 289 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: on Main Street is haunted every. 290 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: Practically everybody exactly. I've investigated a number of buildings on 291 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: Main Street. I have not gotten my hands into the 292 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: carry house, so I know the stories, I know the history. 293 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: And now you investigated with your team a few times, right, yes, yes, 294 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: just kind of off the top of your head, Like, 295 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: what do you say is probably the activity that people 296 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: encounter at that hotel most often? 297 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: I think it's Stan. Stan used to be Stan was 298 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: at a disc clerk. 299 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I heard too, And like that because 300 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: like there's a laundry list of activity that is attributed 301 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: to Stan. And so did you have any interaction with 302 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: who you think could be him when you investigated there? 303 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: We did, in fact our psychic who was with us 304 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: at the time, who you might know, Oh, probably, Yeah, 305 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: she's the one you know that was talking to you. 306 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: And then I haven't right in front of me right now, 307 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: she did she she only whispered, as she says, she 308 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: envisioned it with a mustache, a lot of gray hair, 309 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: and he had a beard. He would have been the 310 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: one who would come back to herself maybe somed she's 311 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: talking about. And then she made the way up the stairs. 312 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: She stepped first up. Yeah, Stan, she encountered all the stairs. 313 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: That's likes right in the live area, like the lobby is. 314 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: You walk into that hotel and it's clearly historic. There's 315 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: like stained glass, it's all dark wood, it's very original. 316 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: Looking and so yeah, I could definitely, I could definitely 317 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: see Stan being a culprit for some things. 318 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: So what she picked up was that he would have 319 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: been a permanent fixtator. She didn't know any information about 320 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 3: the hotel at all, Okay, so she says that he's 321 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: the one that looks after the building, because that's exactly 322 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: what it is, because he was like the hotel death 323 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: clerk manager, you know, at the hotel when all this 324 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: went down. But he also had and I think you 325 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: know the history, he also had an eye for the ladies. Yes, 326 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: so he was forever flirting with people and whatnot, and 327 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: that's what ended his life. And there's conflicting things about 328 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: the way he passed away too, because some you know, 329 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: some like like my team when we were out there, 330 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: came up with the fact that he was stabbed, okay 331 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: on the stairs there, but there's other people that say 332 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: he was shot. 333 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's kind of conflicting, right. 334 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 3: He is, he's been there for a long time, and 335 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: I understand from hotel employees that I have talked to 336 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: during pre interviews for the investigations that he will also 337 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: let them know if there's something wrong and be related 338 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: to like fire. 339 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Oh really, so he's kind of like he's kind of 340 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: watching over the building. 341 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: How does he let them know? What does he do? 342 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: Well? 343 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: I just did think they hear whispers, and I think 344 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: that's pretty much what's going on, because people hear voices 345 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: in there. They can hear whispers, and I think he'll 346 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: talk to the front disc clerks and tell all the stuff. 347 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I mean do you know? 348 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know, Like I feel like I don't 349 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: know how long the most recent owners have owned the hotel, 350 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: and I know that they had Jack and Katrina in 351 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: there not too long ago. So I know that there 352 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: was an episode of Portals film there, and I think 353 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: that's the only paranormal show that filmed there, or maybe 354 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: maybe Ghost Adventures did, I can't remember. But do you know, like, 355 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 2: do they embrace their hauntings there now or are they 356 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: kind of shying away from that. 357 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: No, they're willing to tell stories, but to have groups 358 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: come in, it's a little more difficult to have a 359 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: team come in because you know, it's just kind of 360 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: hard to tell with them whether they they're all forded with, 361 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: like you say, whether they're embracing it or not. Obviously 362 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: they're racing it because the history draws people in, but 363 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: as far as investigators going in, it's you know, it's 364 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: still few and far between you and there to investigate. 365 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's difficult too because it's a it's 366 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: a working hotel. So unless you want to like buy 367 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: out the whole place, you know, it's which I guess 368 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: if you're a TV production with a lot of money 369 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: you could do that. I am not that person. So yeah, 370 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: so okay, now there. I know there are certain rooms 371 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: that are haunted. Did you encounter any activity like in 372 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: any of the hotel rooms in particular? 373 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, how did that go? 374 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: It was interesting. You know, there's a lot of people, 375 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: you know, over the years of those old tails and 376 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: you probably know this is there was a lot of 377 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: disease rampant back then, you know, like we talk about COVID, 378 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: but I mean you look at the colun you look 379 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: at the flu, you know, because people died from the 380 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: flu back home, and the hotel does have a history 381 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: of several guests dying from the flu. And the thing 382 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 3: is the two main guests, the Weederman's the husband and wife. 383 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: They're still they haven't gone anywhere, and so they like 384 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: to appear by your bed. You'll be sleeping and then 385 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: you look up and there's a guy with a beard 386 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: staring down at you. 387 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that would be disconcerting, you know, you know, 388 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: especially if you're you know, you're up in Plasterville just 389 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: visiting and going wine tasting or something, and then you 390 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: wake up to that in your bedroom, which probably not 391 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: what people are looking for. 392 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: His wife, Missus Edelman, she appears to people in rooms 393 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: two Eleana two eleven. Yeah, she just shows up wearing 394 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: a blue glove, a flowing blue gown, and I guess 395 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: she emits them from what we could smell. We could 396 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 3: smell lavender when when she came in the room. 397 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: That's interesting, and so her apparition is seen as well. 398 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: And now is there anything like that's kind of I mean, 399 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if you encountered that or maybe just 400 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: what they reported to you. Has there ever been anything 401 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: there that frightened people. Have you heard of guests kind 402 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: of running off in the night or anything like that there? 403 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: I have heard that. Yeah. In fact, just recently one 404 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: of my investigators told me that she she lives up 405 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: and or family loves a Plasterville. So she was up 406 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: on and she told me that she was told by 407 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: employees that, you know, just within the last maybe six months, 408 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 3: there's been people that have gotten up during the night 409 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: and taken off and not come back. 410 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could see that happening. I'm honestly 411 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: shocked that I haven't stayed there. To be honest, maybe 412 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: next time I'm in town, I'm gonna have to just 413 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: get a room and do some investigating. But I was 414 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: waiting for them to invite me. But I could be 415 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: waiting forever, so maybe I just need to take it 416 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: upon myself. 417 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: So okay, well I went in. 418 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: You know, we went in because I worked for the 419 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: newspaper there at that time, and so we went in 420 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 3: for the newspaper article. That's how we got in with 421 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: the team. 422 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Oh, the Mountain Democrat. That's right. I really I was 423 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: able to. 424 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: Buy a newspaper article about to carry out. So you know, 425 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: that's how we got the other couple times in the 426 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 3: same way. 427 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know what it is. 428 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: It's just that they want to embrace it. But on 429 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: the other hand, they want to go they're trying to 430 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: keep it to themselves, just to draw people in and 431 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: what But I mean, I'm not saying anything against them 432 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 3: because it's a beautiful place, but it is hard to 433 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: get in there for a full investigation. 434 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we clearly we have apparitions, we have 435 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: whispers and like beyond varitions, did you guys encounter like 436 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: any shadow figures or did you get any vps in particular? 437 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Oh, please tell me all about it. 438 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: As far as EVPs go, we can get a lot 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: of good stuff, but we didn't counter shadow figures in 440 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: the there's like there's like a meeting room. You walk 441 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: straight as through the doors in the back doors this 442 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: meeting room, and we were encountering shadow figures as well 443 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: as a downs there's a empty room like a dance floor, 444 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: you know essentially, but that's that room. And but and 445 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: all my investigators saw dark shadows in the corner of 446 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: the bar in there. 447 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, and then now that area the bar and 448 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: where was that again? 449 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: Is the bar like on the main floor or is 450 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: it downstairs? 451 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? When you walk in and you go straight through 452 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: the lobby, and then that room is back there, and 453 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: that's was where they hold their weddings and all that 454 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: stuff back in. 455 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: There got it now. 456 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: I had also heard through the grapevine actually that the 457 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: activity has even kind of spilled out from the hotel itself, 458 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: like meaning that people encounter things like in that little 459 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: there's a cheese Okay, so just really quick for the audience, 460 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: this is like my dream place. By the way, there's 461 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: literally it's this haunted hotel and it has a wine 462 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: shop and a cheese shop attached to it, so I 463 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: could I would never have to leave if I was there. 464 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: So but that, but have you heard that I had 465 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: heard the activities actually spilled into some of those little shops. 466 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: And I'm sure we're part of the hotel in the past, right, Yes. 467 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: It is. In fact, even the Gentleman, although I was 468 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: throwing some extra history here, even the hangman will hang 469 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: out in the hotel, the original hangout. 470 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I've heard that he gets around. 471 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah he gets around too. But yeah, it has spilled out. 472 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: And I mean, you know what people don't understand about 473 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: Plastoville is, you know, compared to the East Coast, old 474 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: for us is young for you guys out there. But 475 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: when these ghosts hang out, they want to hang out. 476 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: I mean they've been partying coming out of the mine 477 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: so their mindset, they're still there partying, and so main 478 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: Street is just insane with energy. I remember my first 479 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: day on main Street not realizing how much energy that 480 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: it was, and I was having visions all over the place, 481 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: just driving up and down Main Street. I mean they're everywhere. 482 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if people visit Plasterville, like it's 483 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: important to note, like, for example, there is a cafe 484 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: a little further down Main Street. It used to be 485 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 2: the Cosmic Cafe. I don't know what it is. I 486 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: seet my hair done next door and stuff. But like 487 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: literally there is a mine in the back of the building. 488 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: You can just I don't know if it's open now, 489 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: but like you used to be able to just walk 490 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: into this mine all the way back into the mountain. 491 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: You could have your coffee back there. I've investigated there 492 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: a few times, and it's like that all over main Street. 493 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: Like there's the bookstore. There is like a piece of 494 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: like the mine and a cave underneath the floor. They 495 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: have like a plexiglass over you're walking over it looking down. 496 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: I think most recently they had a fake skeleton down 497 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: there last time. 498 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: That right now the guy has a such you know 499 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: where the bookstore, but they're. 500 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: All attached and these build are like that hardware store 501 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: on Main Street. It is the oldest operating hardware store, 502 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: what is it east or west of the Mississippi. There's 503 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: a lot of little claims to fame like that in Placterville, 504 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: and it's just the history there is insane, even you know. 505 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: I obviously I'm I live there for quite a while 506 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: and I still go there all the time. I think 507 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm even listed on their Wikipedia page as a notable resident. 508 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: But I mean, I just I'm in love with that town. 509 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: And even though all the history here in you know, 510 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: New England where I live now, I still like, I 511 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: don't think people realize everything that happened in these kind 512 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: of gold rush towns. 513 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: So Carrie House. 514 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: Hotel or not, I think a lot of that is 515 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: in that hotel still. 516 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: And then plus you have the underground caverns, you know, 517 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: the tunnels out of there were well even for the 518 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: carry house. That's how they got the men folks, the 519 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: ladies of the night. Yeah, without without going like mains 520 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: the main stream, as they say, because they could go 521 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: on pass underneath the streets and everything and then go 522 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: over the world those places and everything. 523 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: That's what I love. 524 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: Everywhere you go in uh In, like those gold rush towns, 525 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: everything was a former bordello. 526 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: It was they all used to be bordello. Everywhere you go. 527 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: You could go to like you know, Taco Bellma, like 528 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: this used to be a bordello. But I love that 529 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: about it. 530 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: Okay. 531 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: So now we've talked about shadow figures, we've had whispers. 532 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: What other things did you guys encounter there that you 533 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: found like fascinating? The cat a cat okay, I don't remember. 534 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: In the hotel that likes to halt the hotel and 535 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 3: people will be staying it could be any room in 536 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: the hotel and people will be staying in these rooms 537 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: at night and they'll feel this cat jump up on 538 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: the bed, okay, and they could actually pet the cat. 539 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's been dead for years. This cat, 540 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: it just like to hang out there. 541 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: This is like a documented cat that the hotel had 542 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: at one point, I guess. 543 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: So at some point, Yeah, that was something I could 544 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 3: tell you that was unique because it was a saloon, 545 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: you know salon, Well you had the history. Yeah, so 546 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: we were in that back room and you'll have been 547 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: for the newspaper article, and I actually picked up the 548 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: sound of a chakla, you know how when people will 549 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: like to take a drink and turn the glass over 550 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: and slap it down on the heart on a wood surface. Yeah, 551 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: I actually picked up the sound of that happening. 552 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: That's so like that they're back there still, you know, 553 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: taking shots in the extra life. 554 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: That I love. But also like going back to the cat. 555 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: I like that because people ask me all the time 556 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: if I've ever encountered the ghosts of animals. They want 557 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: mostly people want to know, like do their animals come back? 558 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: And remarkably, it happens pretty often, especially with cats. Strangely, 559 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: like I've even investigated this is not the carry house. 560 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: When I investigated a place that said they had a 561 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: ghost cat. And this was in New Hampshire somewhere, and 562 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: I remember, obviously as soon as they said that they 563 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: had a ghost cat, I was like where, and they 564 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: said in the basement, and I was like goodbye, and 565 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: I went straight to the basement. So I went down 566 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: there and I actually felt it felt like there was 567 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: a cat rubbing against my leg and I got and 568 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: vp of a cat purring, and so like they definitely 569 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I firmly believe that, and especially like can 570 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: you imagine the life that a hotel cat would have, 571 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: like everybody petting it every day and feeding it, Like 572 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: why would they want to leave? 573 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: Right? Absolutely? And you know the Cosmic Well, I thought 574 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: no one was called out, but the Cosmic Cafe also 575 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: has a Fethom cat. 576 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. 577 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: I have to find out what they're called that because 578 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: I have been there since that was the old name. 579 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: But I've been there many times over the years, like 580 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: to see friends, bands and things, and it's a really 581 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: cool space. 582 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: It is a really cool space. So I give you 583 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: an idea the ghosts at the carry house, because that's 584 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: what we're talking about right now. There's a little girl. 585 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: Into the right Okay. 586 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: The theory is that she was a weedman and she 587 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: died of Weederman's their name is she died? 588 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: Okay? 589 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: And now did you encounter her at all in your investigations? 590 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, in fact we could hear We could hear 591 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: her running up and now on the second floor hallway 592 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: and she was giggling when we were up there. There's 593 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: another entity that pans out in the meeting room right 594 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: at the hotel and she she just likes to hang 595 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: out in the much people walk by, just she's one 596 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: of those looking. 597 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting. 598 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: And so that's in that same meeting room where you 599 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: saw like shadows and things too. 600 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and she had been a prostitute from what 601 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: she told us. 602 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: And now was this gathered like psychically or did you 603 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: get like EVPs or psychically? 604 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, delty rods. 605 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Oh okay, because. 606 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: When we do go out, I'm a stickler for I 607 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: don't put the evidence out through unless I have at 608 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: least two to three verifications on it, right, right, So 609 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: I'll work with dowsing rods and a psychic and then 610 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: you know, cameras and EVPs you know, and all that 611 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 3: stuff to confirm it. 612 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: That's nice, that's good. 613 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. There's also a wagon driver. Oh but he's always seen. 614 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: He only partially appears, so you get the bottom half. 615 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: Oh so it's not a fall, I've seen that before. 616 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's all for the waist down. 617 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 618 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: And so is that like more of a residual spirit, 619 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: like is he interacting? 620 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: I think it's where residual Yeah, I think it's where Okay. 621 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard that one. 622 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: And there's also, of course, like all those other hotels, 623 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: there's a cook in the kitchen that doesn't want to go. 624 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: There's only one in the kitchen, and so they've got 625 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: through share. 626 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: That's too funny, So that's prob I mean, that's a 627 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: cast of characters in that place. 628 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, it's a really busy place. I know there's 629 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: reports of people walking by, you know, because they have 630 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: the balcony outside. I know there's reports of people walking 631 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: down main street seeing people in period clothing up all 632 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: that balcony. 633 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny because so one of the things 634 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: Plasarpa likes to do is there are regularly period dressed 635 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: people walking around because they do, especially during like the 636 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: holidays and stuff, they do wagon rides through town. And 637 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: there's a lot of like living history reenactors, and so 638 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: you would really not know, you would. You could be 639 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: looking at a ghost and you wouldn't know it. You 640 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: would just think it was another reenactor come to think 641 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: of it. 642 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: There's also a gambler of course, and there he's one 643 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: of the main ones that hangs out on the balcony. 644 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: He's out there playing cards. 645 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: So that balcony can you even go out there anymore. 646 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know. 647 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if they let people out there anymore. 648 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: I know they did the ten years ago, but yeah, 649 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what. I haven't been out there. Well. 650 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: I mean we've investigated probably every building on Main Street. 651 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot. I mean I've investigated quite 652 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: a few as well. Back in the day. I think 653 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: we even did some group investigations there once where we 654 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: just went from building to building. But yeah, the balcony, 655 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I remember it being a little saggy, 656 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: maybe not something you'd want to sit on or stand on. 657 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: So if I saw someone up there, So if I 658 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: saw someone up there now, I would be questioning whether 659 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: or not they were living or not. 660 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: See, that's the main thing, kids, if your ghost other 661 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: we want to hoot ghosts. We don't want to become. 662 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: No, no, you don't want to be you don't want 663 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: to be another one of those casts of characters at 664 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: the Carry House, except you're like the modern ghost. 665 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: And though you know, yeah, you know, it's like, you know, 666 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: we've done so many old hotels that I'm not saying 667 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: that they're all to say because it's not fair to 668 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: say that. But I mean, you're here. You have similar 669 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, ghosts in all. 670 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: These hotels, right, And I think that the history too, 671 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: of just Main Street in general, because you know, Plasterville 672 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: is still referred to as hang town because they did, 673 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: you know, there were a lot of they hung a 674 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: lot of people on the main Street. It was a 675 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: big affair there. Yeah, and so, and I don't know 676 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: if the hanging man is still hanging on Main Street. 677 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: Last time I was there, he was there. 678 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: They closed that. They have torn down that building. 679 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, they. 680 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: Moved it further down main Street, but I think they 681 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: moved him too. 682 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: But there's still Yeah, I feel like he was still there. 683 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: There's literally still a man hanging, a mannequin hanging on 684 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: Main Street. 685 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. The interesting thing about that place too is that 686 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 3: it had upstairs and there was a lot of activity 687 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: upstairs at that place. 688 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 689 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: Well it sounds like sounds like Plasterville is just as 690 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: busy in the afterlife as it is currently. 691 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I got these weird things with my 692 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: ability is not realizing that I was in pathic really 693 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: until I got to Plasterville. I remember, I would be 694 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: seeing things like if I had an investigation skill somewhere 695 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: I would see the ghost from that particular investigation the 696 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: night before always. 697 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 698 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: So I'm having lunch. I was supposed to go to 699 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, one of the buildings on Main Street. 700 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm having lunch one day and I see this man 701 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: walk from one wall and go through another right in 702 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: front of me. 703 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: Oh geez. Yeah, well that would be alarming and. 704 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: Things like that. Just you know, there was a build 705 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: up to this investigation, just like Anna from from the Boys' 706 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: school up there in I Owe. 707 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did do an episode on that as well. 708 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Preston Castle. 709 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: I went in at the bat in the bathroom at 710 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: my work. 711 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: Oh geez, so they're coming around. 712 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: I felt like I was being washed over my shoulder. 713 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: There was this kind of white haired woman sitting there 714 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: in one of those old timey smocks and it was 715 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: Anna Corbin. 716 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: Oh jeez. 717 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know this stuff goes on. But yeah, 718 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: I mean I highly recommend de mean, if you if 719 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: you're out and about with your family or whatever, the 720 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: Cailly House for the most part is safe to take 721 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: your family and as far as entities, because they really harm. 722 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there are a couple there's always batties. You know, 723 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 3: you always gonna run into that, but the majority of 724 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 3: it is that you know, it's just a lost souls there. 725 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well tell us what you're doing so you 726 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: can kind of shout it out to the audience. So 727 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: you are obviously you have your team. I know you 728 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: have a podcast. How can people find you? 729 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: They can front me everywhere. I'm on Facebook, true California Hats. 730 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: We also have a California Hots radio site there Shakra 731 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: Minto sears s e E r S. And I'm over 732 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: on Instagram as you know, as goes to Gael. I'm 733 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: on TikTok as California Hats. I have California Hats on 734 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: Twitter and kel hots on all the other one. I 735 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: can do it now. But yeah, there's so many of them. 736 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: There's so many. Yeah, you're You're easy to track down. 737 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: So it was really nice to catch up with you, 738 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: and I do really appreciate you taking the time. And 739 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: so I'll be out there soon next month, out there 740 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: for Christmas and everything. So I'm just gonna go up 741 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: to the carry house and be like, excuse me, let 742 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: me in. 743 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 3: That would be cool. They were cool. 744 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: In the mid eighteen hundreds. Gold Rush towns like Hangtown 745 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: represented both opportunity and ruin. The promise of glittering ore 746 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: and the chance to strike it rich drew prospectors from 747 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 2: all over the world, but these frontier towns were also 748 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 2: hubs of injustice, disease, and violence. Today, the community now 749 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: known as Plastovil, remembers its history. That's clear in everything 750 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: from the nineteenth century style buildings that line Main Street, 751 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: to the historic decor of the rooms at the carry 752 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: House hotel, to the long dead specters that never left. 753 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: I'm Amy Berney and this was Haunted Road. Are you 754 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: tired of the same old vacation destinations and cookie cutter experiences? 755 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: Do you crave a sense of mystery, wonder and adventure 756 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: that can't be found in ordinary travel brochures. Do you 757 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: listen to this podcast and think I'd like to visit 758 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: that spooky place? Well that's why I started Strange Escapes, 759 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: hair normal based travel company that takes you to some 760 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 2: of the most haunted locations in the world. Frankly, it's 761 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: my excuse to combine all of my favorite things, which 762 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: is ghosts, beautiful hotels, food and wine, and other weirdos 763 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: like me to be honest. If that sounds right up 764 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: your alley and you want to learn more, then visit 765 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: Strange Escapes dot travel and hopefully you can join us sometime. 766 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 3: Also. 767 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: To keep up on all of my upcoming projects and appearances, 768 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 2: head to Amy Brune dot com. I have some really 769 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 2: great things in the works and I don't want you 770 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: to miss it. 771 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: Thanks. 772 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: Haunted Roadies. Haunted Road is hosted and written by me 773 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: Amy Brune, with additional research by Cassandra de Alba. This 774 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: show is edited and produced by rema Elkali, with supervising 775 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: producer Josh Thain and executive producers Aaron Menke, Alex Williams, 776 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: and Matt Frederick. Haunted Road is a production of iHeartRadio 777 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: and Grim and Mild from Aaronmankey. Learn more about this 778 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: show over at Grimanmild dot com, and for more podcasts 779 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 780 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 2: you listen to your favorite shows.