Speaker 1: Carola, She's a queen of talking. He was sowing your man,
Speaker 1: She's only yes, actually got the snoop on the on
Speaker 1: the ones to side. No one can do within clie
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Speaker 1: caral tile Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Caroline Hobby. I know music, I
Speaker 1: know people, and I know the questions. Do you want
Speaker 1: to ask? So let's get hyper heads up. These are
Speaker 1: adults having adult conversations, so there could be adult content
Speaker 1: you guys. Today is an exciting episode because I have
Speaker 1: the incredible tie Herndon joining me. I am a super
Speaker 1: fan of him. I was a super fan of him
Speaker 1: when I grew up listening to his music. And the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm friends with him now and got to
Speaker 1: interview him was just, honestly, it was a dream come true.
Speaker 1: He sing the song What Mattered Most as a blue
Speaker 1: It was long, six and four, she was bone and
Speaker 1: bad mood. You know that song? It one song of
Speaker 1: the year. He has sold five million albums. He just
Speaker 1: came out with a new album House on Fire, where
Speaker 1: he wrote most half half to most of the songs,
Speaker 1: which is freaking awesome. It's one of the first albums
Speaker 1: he's written majority of the songs. It's amazing, and y'all,
Speaker 1: this is such an honest interview. He talks about how
Speaker 1: he came out as a gay man in country music
Speaker 1: and what a step that was for him. It's such
Speaker 1: a heartful interview. I'm so excited. Here is ty Herndon.
Speaker 1: Get that podcast level right? Okay, Tie Herndon in the
Speaker 1: speaking of House, House on Fire, that was a nice segue.
Speaker 1: Don't mean to do that right before we turn out
Speaker 1: of the camera. We're just talking about just songs that
Speaker 1: we love, but we don't really know the verses to
Speaker 1: every now and then I get a little bit nervous
Speaker 1: and hungry. I don't know, I don't know. That's all
Speaker 1: we know, but we know the point. Yes, that's all
Speaker 1: we need to know. And then we love that song.
Speaker 1: We love that song. So yeah, that's what. That's the way.
Speaker 1: My whole album is just big courses and just uh
Speaker 1: hooky stuff. Yeah, your new albums called House on Fire,
Speaker 1: House on Fire. We're not getting to that yet. But
Speaker 1: I had a segway because that is exciting that you
Speaker 1: have a new album, because you are one of my
Speaker 1: favorite voices and country music. Well you're one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people, so that's good. I want to start off
Speaker 1: with the game. We're going to complete the sentence. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you tell a word and then we'll just make
Speaker 1: a sentence to see what happens. Just pack a word,
Speaker 1: Just pack any word. Eat, happy, love, dogs, cats. It's
Speaker 1: about a word. I'm so confused about your game. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll start. Um. Wow, look at that picture of Jason.
Speaker 1: I do you right there? He is young? Okay, cowboy?
Speaker 1: Um uh, you know it's playing a cowboy bar the
Speaker 1: other night. It was pretty awesome. That's the whole sentence.
Speaker 1: You said you to say one word. Okay, I still
Speaker 1: don't understand your game. Okay, so I say a word
Speaker 1: so like cowboy, hat dog. Now we make it. We
Speaker 1: try to make a real sentence, but we have to
Speaker 1: do it rapid fire, think really fast. This is way
Speaker 1: too smart for me. It's going to be so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't understand, but I'll just play along. Say the first
Speaker 1: word that comes to mind when I say a word.
Speaker 1: But we have to make the sentence complete. Eggs. Oh
Speaker 1: I love scrambled eggs. But you don't say you have
Speaker 1: to say another word. I don't understand. Okay, your game
Speaker 1: is dumb. I want to I want to color book. Okay,
Speaker 1: coloring book. I like books. Okay, I'm gonna say a word.
Speaker 1: You tell me the first day that comes to your mind. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is not a game. This is now rapid fire.
Speaker 1: We failed at that other game. We gave it. Or
Speaker 1: try one for the home. You explain it to me
Speaker 1: an email later. That would be awesome. Okay. What do
Speaker 1: you think of when you think of happiness? Um? I
Speaker 1: think of my family. Who all is in your family? Um?
Speaker 1: My mom my sister, my nephew, my partner, my sweet
Speaker 1: publicist Christie sitting over there, to so many people, and
Speaker 1: speaking partner. That's what we're gonna get into too. Because
Speaker 1: you had a big moment where you came out in
Speaker 1: country music, which was a huge deal and really awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I just walked right out that
Speaker 1: front door. Just come on out. So we're going to
Speaker 1: get all into that because you've done so many amazing,
Speaker 1: like thank you, huge moments in your life that you've
Speaker 1: just like, I feel like it's been a lot of firsts.
Speaker 1: It has been, but I've been proud to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm uh, I am uh at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I say this all the time. I'm
Speaker 1: still the same old redneck I always was, really truly
Speaker 1: I am. But people know a little bit more about
Speaker 1: me today, and you're gonna learn a lot more about
Speaker 1: me in this new album. So it's pretty right. Do
Speaker 1: you feel more yourself than ever? I do? I feel
Speaker 1: you know, you always say, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: myself in my shoes. I feel like myself in my boots.
Speaker 1: I feel like myself when I'm writing songs. I feel
Speaker 1: like myself when I'm singing in the truck driving down
Speaker 1: the road. You know, I just and my authentic self.
Speaker 1: And I really enjoy getting to go and talk to
Speaker 1: high school kids, sometimes elementary kids, just sometimes UM LGBT events, um,
Speaker 1: you know, or standing up at in front of five
Speaker 1: thousand people at a show and just talking about the
Speaker 1: song and why it was written. So I never was
Speaker 1: able to do that before. So it's it's pretty awesome,
Speaker 1: you know, just just normal of stuff. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess we can just jop to this because it's a
Speaker 1: really big deal and it's awesome. How did you decide
Speaker 1: that it was time for you to be authentically yourself. Well,
Speaker 1: one of my really good friends of Shelley Ride, which
Speaker 1: we all of country music congratulation Shelley on a great
Speaker 1: debut with her new album Yeah she had. She had
Speaker 1: a really great, great voice she does, and she's writing
Speaker 1: some incredible material. But we've been friends a long time,
Speaker 1: and I was just at a place in my life
Speaker 1: that I was willing to give up even being in
Speaker 1: the music business. I was willing to give up what
Speaker 1: I did for a living because it was more important
Speaker 1: to me to be happy in my life. It was
Speaker 1: more important to me to wake up in the morning
Speaker 1: and feel good about myself. And I lived a life
Speaker 1: and in a career that was so covered up with
Speaker 1: so many different stories I could even keep up sometimes.
Speaker 1: So I just had to I had to shed that skin.
Speaker 1: I had to get out of that because that gets exhausting, overwhelming.
Speaker 1: You probably start to lose yourself, do you. I did.
Speaker 1: I lost myself for a long time. And when you
Speaker 1: lose yourself, you start going down some pretty dangerous roads.
Speaker 1: And for me, it was addiction, just the wrong pills
Speaker 1: to take. You know, nothing was going to fix that,
Speaker 1: because there's nothing wrong with me. So, but you were
Speaker 1: having to act like you were someone you weren't absolutely
Speaker 1: and so many times you wake up in the morning
Speaker 1: and go, who am I? You know? Who am I
Speaker 1: going to be today? Let me see? You know what? Color? What?
Speaker 1: What race? What? You know? Just it was just maddening
Speaker 1: and so for me, I really couldn't handle that anymore.
Speaker 1: So I made a decision. Um. It took about a
Speaker 1: year for the process for my brain to process it.
Speaker 1: You know, I really had to go out there research
Speaker 1: what is my life going to look like if I'm
Speaker 1: not doing coaching music? Would I be doing music? Would
Speaker 1: I be doing something else? Was I willing to just
Speaker 1: walk away from all that? And I came to a
Speaker 1: conclusion that I was so what So you waited out?
Speaker 1: What did you What were the pros and cons of
Speaker 1: your life? What were the options? Well, the pros for
Speaker 1: me were that I would be authentic. I would wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning feeling good about myself. I could
Speaker 1: walk down the street with my partner, I could I
Speaker 1: could eventually marry the person that I loved, the man
Speaker 1: that I loved in this instance, um, and possibly have
Speaker 1: a family. I mean, there was a lot of prose
Speaker 1: to it. You're ready to be you and everything. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to be me, and I was ready everyone to
Speaker 1: know me because a lot of people had some really
Speaker 1: wrong perceptions of me. And do you feel like you're
Speaker 1: pressured into that? Not at all? You know, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I never would have allowed that to be even in
Speaker 1: the pro and compile. No, pressure was not a thing
Speaker 1: at all. The pressure came, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: after I came out and made this huge anoun. Do
Speaker 1: you feel you're pressured into not being yourself? Is what
Speaker 1: I meant? Oh? Yes, absolutely, because I valued my career
Speaker 1: and being able to work and make a living and
Speaker 1: make my house payment more than I valued the skin
Speaker 1: that I was wearing. Totally. Yeah, it was really hard.
Speaker 1: I'm just so proud of you because to me, living authentically,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're all going to die.
Speaker 1: I know that sounds morbid, but like to be yourself,
Speaker 1: especially when yourself is such a wonderful person, you know,
Speaker 1: such an amazing thing. Well, it's nice to wake up
Speaker 1: and like yourself. I mean I tell kids this all
Speaker 1: the time. You know, to be able to to like yourself,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a lot more successful in your in
Speaker 1: your life, so you really are. Yeah, And I have
Speaker 1: parents that bring their kids to my shows now And
Speaker 1: he goes, Okay, this kid just came out to me.
Speaker 1: He's seventeen years old. He wants to be in country music,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, that's awesome. He's got a responsibility
Speaker 1: to be the best damn songwriter, the best entertainer, the
Speaker 1: best singer, and that really comes second. You know, who
Speaker 1: is who is he? He's got to figure out who
Speaker 1: he is or she is as an artist and let
Speaker 1: that be an addendum to who they are, not really
Speaker 1: take control of their lives because it can so easily
Speaker 1: go in such a negative place. And you started a
Speaker 1: ripple effect, like when you came out. I saw that,
Speaker 1: like Billy Gilman made a video and came out. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I always tell Billy this because I'm
Speaker 1: so cute. He's doing great. I'm so proud of him,
Speaker 1: and he's living authentically, not to like you changed his
Speaker 1: life to give him confidence. Well, I'm certainly I don't
Speaker 1: know that I'll take full credit for that, but he
Speaker 1: said it in his video. He said, when my buddy
Speaker 1: tie herd and just came out, and I think it's
Speaker 1: time for me. Well, I was. I was honored to
Speaker 1: lead the way with that. And I'll tell I'll tell
Speaker 1: Billy this all the time. I said, you know, it
Speaker 1: probably would have been a normal news story when I
Speaker 1: came out and said, but you doing it right on
Speaker 1: the hills of me coming out, gave it rocket fuel
Speaker 1: and said we were everywhere. So I really didn't intend
Speaker 1: for it to be. Kind of blew my mind that
Speaker 1: we were trending one billion people out there, one billion
Speaker 1: people over those two days. It was crazy. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, being a guy that's been in headlines before
Speaker 1: for not such great things to be in headlines again
Speaker 1: like that, UM, and to be celebrated was it was
Speaker 1: a gift from God back to what we were talking about.
Speaker 1: That's when I really got nervous. That's when I felt
Speaker 1: a different kind of pressure because I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I walked out on stage three days after that announcement
Speaker 1: to a sold out crowd, to standing ovation, and God
Speaker 1: kind of let me know that I was going to
Speaker 1: get to keep what I was doing. Everyone was cheering
Speaker 1: for you and so proud that you who you were.
Speaker 1: They were, and for the next week and months to follow, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, I was still playing the same hockey talks,
Speaker 1: and I just noticed there was a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a modern family out there, which everybody just get along.
Speaker 1: We're just we're just gonna play some country music. So,
Speaker 1: so you said you have been in headlines for not
Speaker 1: so positive stuff. How did you handle that and what
Speaker 1: was that period of your life? Life? Not very well? Um,
Speaker 1: for my family and friends that know me. You know,
Speaker 1: I went down some pretty dark paths and almost lost
Speaker 1: my life more than once. Really, Yeah, so through addiction,
Speaker 1: through addiction, yeah, just um, not being able to live
Speaker 1: my life authentically and just watching you watch yourself, it's
Speaker 1: like you you're an out of body experience. You kind
Speaker 1: of just you're in the room, but you're not present
Speaker 1: because you know it's not you. Yeah, it's a ghost story.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what it is. Yeah, let's do it's story.
Speaker 1: It's a ghost story, like you're not even in your body. No,
Speaker 1: and it could have easily had a very unhappy ending.
Speaker 1: But by the grace of God. As you know about me,
Speaker 1: I'm a very spiritual man and I think our paths
Speaker 1: are meant to be. And I certainly didn't understand that
Speaker 1: then because I didn't. I was like, oh, tortured Tie,
Speaker 1: you know, just oh poor ghost, torture Tie. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand. But anyone that I've talked to you
Speaker 1: that's been down some some horrible paths and had some
Speaker 1: bad things happen to them or just a shell of
Speaker 1: their selves, And when you survive that, don't you feel
Speaker 1: like it makes your story so much more impactful. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a story. I wouldn't be sitting here talking
Speaker 1: to you about it right now. What is my message? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to give that away completely
Speaker 1: because next year I've got a book coming. Yes, so,
Speaker 1: um it's it's also called House on Fire. I love it? Yes?
Speaker 1: Was that kind of a representation of how you were living?
Speaker 1: Like you finally did you like? What is it a metaphor?
Speaker 1: Like you burned the whole house down or your house
Speaker 1: was on fire and you have to run a metaphor
Speaker 1: of that song? Was this when we wrote it? Uh?
Speaker 1: And there's there's quite a few songs like this on
Speaker 1: on the album. But um, I just wanted to take
Speaker 1: all those memories and all those bad things, all those
Speaker 1: people that were hanging on the walls what that house
Speaker 1: was built of was not anything authentic, and so it
Speaker 1: was it was just simply about, um, I poured the gas,
Speaker 1: I lit the match, didn't grab a damn thing on
Speaker 1: my way out, and it's just about burning it down.
Speaker 1: But it's not about burning it down and running away.
Speaker 1: It's about burning it down and rebuilding. Yes, because those
Speaker 1: same pictures are going to go back on those walls,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be new relationships with those people. So
Speaker 1: it's it's really healthy. This is like, this is what
Speaker 1: life is about. These are the moment Hello. They are
Speaker 1: because like you lived through the fire, you know I did,
Speaker 1: and and um my brain would complete someone because I'm
Speaker 1: a big Anthony Robbins. I also walked on fire, did Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't burn my feet, So it was all good.
Speaker 1: Isn't that part of it? Like you walk on fire
Speaker 1: to show that you can? Did you do a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff like soul searching? My my partner, Matthew. One
Speaker 1: of my first Christmas presents that I got from him
Speaker 1: was a one week Anthony Robbins seminar in Chicago, so
Speaker 1: we went together. He's a motivational guru like Tony Robbins,
Speaker 1: same guy. Yeah, Tony Robbins, Anthony Robbins Robins, Oh my
Speaker 1: goshes with Tony Robbins. Yeah. So he's like, I watched
Speaker 1: everything he does. He's my Twitter friends, didn't know you
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, but you've talked to him in real life.
Speaker 1: I have not touched him real life, just on Twitter.
Speaker 1: So isn't that same thing? Totally same thing. Actually it's
Speaker 1: more personal when you're talking on social media. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I love yeah. Man. So that was one of my
Speaker 1: first Christmas gifts from Math and it was and I went, um,
Speaker 1: I'm going back again. Uh and in Nick's February but um,
Speaker 1: more of a celebration for me at this at this
Speaker 1: time in my life and in business to move forward,
Speaker 1: to move my brand forward, because that's a really good
Speaker 1: thing to do. Um. But back to the ultimate decision,
Speaker 1: um to to come out. Um it started at that seminar. Yes,
Speaker 1: because I knew all the tools I was getting, I
Speaker 1: couldn't use any of those, you know, it was it
Speaker 1: was a mess. So to be able to clean that
Speaker 1: up and it was it was great. Okay. So he
Speaker 1: that kind of gave you the push to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm because He's all about being authentic, being real,
Speaker 1: and God will bless you for that. And do you
Speaker 1: feel like God has blessed you? God has tremendously blessed me.
Speaker 1: What's happened since this moment of authenticity has become who
Speaker 1: you are? Well? Number one, I can breathe. So you
Speaker 1: have been holding your breath for years? Yes? Number one? Wow,
Speaker 1: like a newborn baby taking your first breath, like and
Speaker 1: it's a different error do I do? Um? But for me,
Speaker 1: it's just about making better decisions now. And you still
Speaker 1: fall into some some little habits like I'll still walk
Speaker 1: into a room and feel like not feel as small
Speaker 1: as I used to, but then I have to give
Speaker 1: that a little bit of adjustment and go, wait a minute, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm as big as you are in this room. So
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good feeling. Yeah, when you can
Speaker 1: pull that all together. And being in country music, you
Speaker 1: know genre I did, but I didn't at the same time,
Speaker 1: I hope. So the only thing I really want to
Speaker 1: change is just the perception that people have of the
Speaker 1: LGBT community, because you know, I say this a million times.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to talk about this day, but I
Speaker 1: like you Um, I love the fact that I can
Speaker 1: it down and go, hey, do you know any gay people?
Speaker 1: You know you probably have five or six in your
Speaker 1: neighborhood of just normal bankers, lawyers. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: it's really just kind of the way it is. And so, UM,
Speaker 1: I love country music. I love that people are coming
Speaker 1: to the shows. Thank you guys, and they come to
Speaker 1: hear me singing. You know, they don't come to hear
Speaker 1: about anything else in my life. They come to hear
Speaker 1: me sing my songs. And when I'm writing. And this
Speaker 1: is really cool thing about this album. Gonna swing this
Speaker 1: back around right now. Um, this record is is um
Speaker 1: is gender free. The whole album is well about six
Speaker 1: songs in My co writer and producer Eric Halbig said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we love Eric. He goes, do you realize that you're
Speaker 1: kind of hitting into gender free? Do you want to
Speaker 1: do that? I'm like, I didn't realize I was doing it,
Speaker 1: but let's just keep writing. And what I realized at
Speaker 1: the end of the day when this album was said
Speaker 1: and done, um, it doesn't matter who you are, where
Speaker 1: you are, and you walk alive out there. You can
Speaker 1: take these songs from our experiences and I promise you
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to put your own life into
Speaker 1: it with whoever you love or whatever you're doing, so
Speaker 1: that it's really what happened with this record, and that's
Speaker 1: one of the things I'm really really proud of in
Speaker 1: that I feel like it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a spiritual gift and it happened so naturally. It happened
Speaker 1: just that way. Okay, So I kind of want to
Speaker 1: start at the beginning just a little bit, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap back up with House on Fire. Okay.
Speaker 1: So you were raised in Alabama, again, playing out piano,
Speaker 1: singing gospel. You moved to Nashville out of high school,
Speaker 1: and right when you lived here was that you became
Speaker 1: a member of Today's Country Roads and we're performing the
Speaker 1: standard day's Country Roads. I still remember what was that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a little dance movie that goes with that too.
Speaker 1: It was opery Land, USA, which was like the thing
Speaker 1: I did when I was a kid. We would drive
Speaker 1: up the two hours from Decatur, Alabama to a half
Speaker 1: hours and go to Opryland. We watched the shows, and
Speaker 1: for me that was like this kid that grew up
Speaker 1: in bluegrass and gospel. Um something I just wanted to do.
Speaker 1: So you started living your dreams right at seventeen. I
Speaker 1: did auditioned my sister and I went. She drove me
Speaker 1: down and um um, I got the job and they
Speaker 1: put me in a show called Today's Country Roads. Six singers,
Speaker 1: three boys, three girls, and we did the top ten
Speaker 1: on the country chart. Were current. It was a blast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I was singing Ronnie Millsap, you know, Kenny Rogers.
Speaker 1: We were just it was it was great, We're getting
Speaker 1: to do all those songs and those great songs of
Speaker 1: the UM the late eighties and nineties, So what a
Speaker 1: great intro just into country music, like getting your career started.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. And the next year they changed it
Speaker 1: um the next summer to just the three guys, and
Speaker 1: we became the Grizzly River Boys and did that like
Speaker 1: become a major band. Well, then we changed it to
Speaker 1: the Tennessee River Boys, and that later became I left
Speaker 1: the band to go do edwit Man's Stars, and you
Speaker 1: wont and Marty row took my place in the band
Speaker 1: and they became Diamond Rio. Were you upset that you
Speaker 1: left Stitch? Uh? No, because I've never really felt like
Speaker 1: a other than gospel and Christian music. I felt like
Speaker 1: I belonged in a group with that, But I never
Speaker 1: felt like I belonged to a group. Wasn't something I
Speaker 1: was ever interested in. You weren't like dang it. I
Speaker 1: left and then they became Noon. I really was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really wasn't. They were. You know, it wasn't your path.
Speaker 1: You got, you got what you came for with it,
Speaker 1: and then you moved on. Yes, And I went out
Speaker 1: to California and was doing my thing out there for
Speaker 1: a while, and then it was me moving to Texas.
Speaker 1: I know. Because okay, so you okay, so you leave
Speaker 1: the band after it has all these name changes and
Speaker 1: ultimately comes to Diamond Rio. You leave right before diamond
Speaker 1: Rio was formed about Yeah, it took about it was.
Speaker 1: It was three years later before Diamond Rio actually took off.
Speaker 1: Then you did Star Church. You won the you won
Speaker 1: the male category of best Male Vocalist. So it doesn't
Speaker 1: well I didn't actually win and went all the way
Speaker 1: to the finals. Sam has one is that Sam Harris
Speaker 1: is a tony Ard winning Broadway singer now but clearly
Speaker 1: launched career launched careers. Rosy O'Donnell Saw Your Brown. We're
Speaker 1: all on the same year. This is before American Idle,
Speaker 1: before before X Factor. This is yeah, this was the
Speaker 1: original Lee and Rhymes. He was on Starts. There's so
Speaker 1: many people are on that show. I totally loved that
Speaker 1: ship it was it did and then I got to
Speaker 1: do another television series called You Write the Songs that
Speaker 1: came out of that. It was a songwriting competition. We
Speaker 1: performed the songs, so I don't know where those tapes are.
Speaker 1: That was one for two seasons. Yeah was fun. It
Speaker 1: was fun, but it was not helping my country career.
Speaker 1: I Saw Your Brown went right out of that and
Speaker 1: got a record deal. I came back to Nashville, did
Speaker 1: a couple of projects. He went out of was not
Speaker 1: out of Star Search. He was on Star Search the
Speaker 1: band Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Mark Miller and Saw Your bro.
Speaker 1: Epic didn't sign you from Star Search. No, they signed
Speaker 1: you because you went to Texas and then you won
Speaker 1: like Male Vocalist of the Year in Texas in Texas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Texas Entertainer of the Year. I mean not just so
Speaker 1: once you already want Star Search. You've been in this
Speaker 1: band that was originally Diamond Rio and now you want
Speaker 1: to entertainer there in Texas. So finally national record labels.
Speaker 1: It just happened to be Margie Hunt was sitting out there,
Speaker 1: who was working at Sony Nashville. She just happened to
Speaker 1: if I remember the story correctly, she was just she
Speaker 1: was visiting some friends in Texas. In Texas there a
Speaker 1: show or award show, yes, and so she was there.
Speaker 1: She came back to U to Nashville, said some nice things.
Speaker 1: That next Saturday, a couple of the executives came to town,
Speaker 1: and I had a record deal. Three weeks later. How
Speaker 1: many years have you been doing music? Now? At this
Speaker 1: point I had been I had been doing music for
Speaker 1: ten years. Yeah, it's a ten your town. No one
Speaker 1: gets their big break talk about ten years in huh man.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. After that, six weeks later the record
Speaker 1: was done, and then of weeks later I had what
Speaker 1: happened number one record twelve weeks. Yeah, we still hold
Speaker 1: the record twelve. I never wanted. How many weeks we are?
Speaker 1: Your debut single what mattered most still one of my
Speaker 1: most favorites and had a great song, yesser Blue. Her
Speaker 1: hair was long and sixty four she was born in
Speaker 1: Baton Rouge. Yeah, pretty song man, it's still my favorite
Speaker 1: to sing it is. Yeah, your first single twenty years
Speaker 1: ago and I never do it anymore with the full band.
Speaker 1: I mean I just left the moment. Yeah, that song
Speaker 1: is the moment. Yeah, that is a special song. That
Speaker 1: was a twelve week that got to know. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: had highest debut single of all times. Probably it was
Speaker 1: how debut single. It was the most added at country
Speaker 1: radio with nineties ads. Nine yet I can't remember. It
Speaker 1: was a bunch of them. Yeah, man, that song. Business
Speaker 1: has changed and we're happy when we get there's three
Speaker 1: at three ads. It is totally crazy out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then you go on to have a gold album
Speaker 1: and you have you have a string of hits, and
Speaker 1: then you really second album, which what was not one
Speaker 1: called Living in a Moment? Living in a Moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was funny. I had off of every album, I
Speaker 1: had a number one record and then second single it
Speaker 1: would go to number five, third single, number fifty. I'd
Speaker 1: never could get a string of them off of bod albums.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I don't know. It was the best songs,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at what I do today, you know,
Speaker 1: during that time I didn't write. Doug Johnson and Paul
Speaker 1: Worley and so many people did great job binding me songs.
Speaker 1: But looking back on it, I listen back to some
Speaker 1: of the records that goo, I probably wouldn't have cut that.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not you now looking back, Yeah, so, but
Speaker 1: great records. So okay, So, so let's talk to some
Speaker 1: of your hits you've had. Obviously what mattered most living
Speaker 1: in a moment, I want my goodbye back love too
Speaker 1: much man, holding on to a woman, letting go hands
Speaker 1: of a working man. You have sold over five million albums,
Speaker 1: and that's hard to do today too, and you're an
Speaker 1: elite club man. I appreciate it. To the fact that
Speaker 1: you have sold five million albums. That's crazy. People can't
Speaker 1: even sell a hundred thousand of a debut album anymore.
Speaker 1: I know, you know in our goal of the days
Speaker 1: to get five million Twitter followers. I know social media
Speaker 1: is the goal, not the gold albums. To learn about
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's been the last last four years
Speaker 1: has been a real education for me and education and
Speaker 1: social media world. So so okay, you've done so much. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then you got your first two albums and then
Speaker 1: that's where the rough Patch kind of hits that. I actually, no,
Speaker 1: they know the rough Patch hit right off the bat.
Speaker 1: I had my first number one record, and I was
Speaker 1: on my second single. My second single was I think
Speaker 1: it was at number fifteen or something like that. And
Speaker 1: what was your second single? I want my Goodbye back song. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I had a big drug arrest after that and
Speaker 1: some really humiliating things around it that happened that put
Speaker 1: me made me even smaller, you know, just I just
Speaker 1: I just grew inward. I can't talk about a lot
Speaker 1: of that because it's it's no because it's in the book. Yeah,
Speaker 1: House on Fire, Tiger and in books. So let's make
Speaker 1: sure we get that book. House was on five people.
Speaker 1: Glad you're writing it all out and putting it out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, the amazing Chris Willman from Rolling Stone
Speaker 1: is my is my voice in this, in this, in
Speaker 1: this novel, in this, what do you mean your voice?
Speaker 1: He is actually the writer gat so he's a professor
Speaker 1: to tell the story, to do it, and then he
Speaker 1: writes it all. I can't even play your game. How
Speaker 1: am I going to write that stuff down? That's what
Speaker 1: people to help us get our stories out right. Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what it's a it's a teamwork, dream work, teamwork
Speaker 1: to make the dream work. Hey man. So okay, so
Speaker 1: right after your first single, you're on your second single,
Speaker 1: that's when it all kind of starts to swirl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it all should have really been over in my life
Speaker 1: almost was over too right after that, Yes, but I
Speaker 1: had a great group, a great support group of people
Speaker 1: at the label and family that helped me at least
Speaker 1: get back on my feet a little bit. And so
Speaker 1: I went to rehab and it was more of a
Speaker 1: media circus because I will give a little bit of
Speaker 1: this away, but I remember doing a press conference right
Speaker 1: outside the gates of rehab, which would never happen today. Yes,
Speaker 1: extra drama, this is real country. Apologize to your mom
Speaker 1: at the time, apologized to your wife, apologize to your family,
Speaker 1: and you know, I made a mistake, and just move on.
Speaker 1: And that's for me what that was. So I basically
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a vacation, um thirty days out,
Speaker 1: one week later back on the road, So no healing time.
Speaker 1: So you didn't really heal at that time. Was it
Speaker 1: more just for media? I would probably say so, which
Speaker 1: is terrible today because you know, you you're you're You
Speaker 1: look back on it when you wanted to scream to
Speaker 1: the fans, you know, this is why this happened, and
Speaker 1: you couldn't and so and and that would never have
Speaker 1: worked back then as well. So it's just my journey
Speaker 1: from that point was a part of my story today
Speaker 1: that saves people's lives. So that's why, and that's why
Speaker 1: that happened. You're gonna make me crowd of day. I
Speaker 1: am proud of you. It is inspiring to me that
Speaker 1: you have taken these hardships and these secrets that you
Speaker 1: had to live with because you had to because at
Speaker 1: that time it wasn't I don't know whatever reason in
Speaker 1: the industry like it was at the times were still
Speaker 1: a little bit like stuck something. Yeah. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: looking back on it, it was who I was, but
Speaker 1: I didn't even believe it yet. You know, I was
Speaker 1: in such denial about who I was because I've talked
Speaker 1: to so many kids that especially in the South, that
Speaker 1: would tell me I would rather take a gun to
Speaker 1: my head than admit that. Why is so scary? You know,
Speaker 1: how we're raised, what we're taught, who we are, who
Speaker 1: generations of people are that makes the blueprint of who
Speaker 1: you are, and sometimes that blueprint is really hard to change.
Speaker 1: So you got to start over. And and you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of elements. I tell these kids this all
Speaker 1: the time. You've got a lot of elements in your
Speaker 1: life working against you. The hardest thing you'll ever do
Speaker 1: is to be yourself. And not everybody's gonna like it.
Speaker 1: So but what are you going to do with it?
Speaker 1: What's your journey gonna be, what's your story gonna be?
Speaker 1: And especially if they want to be the music business,
Speaker 1: because today things are different. So you've got to be
Speaker 1: the damn best talent you can be, and you gotta
Speaker 1: write authentically about your life. You want to talk right
Speaker 1: about it. Okay, So that was like album one and two.
Speaker 1: I'm good now, Yes, I want out tailor in on you.
Speaker 1: Crab baby, crab baby, I tell me why. That's another one.
Speaker 1: Tell me why baby, why baby, something like that. Anyway
Speaker 1: you make me cry, I don't. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to cry. I want you cry happy tears. That's happy.
Speaker 1: So okay. So that's album one and two and you
Speaker 1: have you go to rehab the all that, But are
Speaker 1: you really that before album to album to release. Then
Speaker 1: you're we weren't even thinking about album too yet, so
Speaker 1: we were we had another two singles coming off of
Speaker 1: what mattered most right off the bat, you or in it? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: And you know it's it's crazy to uh, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know this these facts to be true. But
Speaker 1: you know, I know there was a lot of nominations
Speaker 1: at that time that were taken away, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of accolades that that would have come my way
Speaker 1: for a new artist that was doing so well. So
Speaker 1: also make you smaller, you know, you just it's just
Speaker 1: that the pounding continued. How long did you live small? Oh?
Speaker 1: Until well, I say, I lived small tim twenty months ago,
Speaker 1: but the small wasn't as small as it was so
Speaker 1: because you're such a beautiful spirit. But the turmoil that
Speaker 1: goes on in someone's mind that no one knows about.
Speaker 1: And that's why your life is so important, because you're
Speaker 1: going to say, it's important to have have sparkle in
Speaker 1: your eyes, and you have it. Yeah, that's the main
Speaker 1: thing that people say to me today. And that's a
Speaker 1: god thing for sure. Um that people that haven't seen
Speaker 1: me in a while, andy're like whoa, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm like doing quite well, thank you? Heck yes, okay,
Speaker 1: So tell me the cycle of what happened between Albuls
Speaker 1: one two, three, because then you released album three, which
Speaker 1: was your most important personal one besides House and Fire?
Speaker 1: Journey on? Is that on the four? That was three?
Speaker 1: Was big hopes? The albums just kept coming. There were
Speaker 1: there were five albums on Sony. Yes, so every two years,
Speaker 1: year and a half we would do an album and
Speaker 1: be very well received. I would always have a hit
Speaker 1: single off of off of the album. My Sony family
Speaker 1: was incredible, But my life is deteriorating, and you can't
Speaker 1: expect the corporate world to continue to support you when
Speaker 1: your life is deteriorating, and uh, you know talking about
Speaker 1: getting small, then you just disappear. Yeah, so I disappeared
Speaker 1: and the label we came to a mutual decision to
Speaker 1: leave Sony, and I think I had two albums left
Speaker 1: on that contract, but yeah, it was just time. And
Speaker 1: what do you do when you left? I moved to
Speaker 1: l A And uh, it's a bad idea. So if
Speaker 1: you really down the rabbit hole, oh yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know how you know Hollywood famous? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money. You know, I had a
Speaker 1: lot of parties, and you just do that and then
Speaker 1: you wake up one day and uh, you know, for me,
Speaker 1: you know, drug addict, my you know, teeth following out,
Speaker 1: you know, looked like something from a bad character on
Speaker 1: I love this show and say at he Hall, but
Speaker 1: it was it was pretty bad. And um, um, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that that went on in there
Speaker 1: with almost losing my life again. But I came home
Speaker 1: my sister, um and now she was having my beautiful nephew,
Speaker 1: and um to Nashville. Pivotal moment. It was a little
Speaker 1: moment moment because at that point it was something that
Speaker 1: made me want to live new life, new life, the
Speaker 1: new life of your nephew. Absolutely, yeah, absolute, man, I know.
Speaker 1: So it's awesome. So it woke you up, basically, came back,
Speaker 1: got my ship together. Yeah when was that? Um? And
Speaker 1: see Jack is about to turn thirteen, so yeah, that
Speaker 1: long ago. And then that and then that time I
Speaker 1: started I started writing. And that's when the first time
Speaker 1: you started writing, because you didn't write the first five albums,
Speaker 1: I did not What did you want to start? You
Speaker 1: have something you learned to say, I had something. Daddy
Speaker 1: had something to say. Yeah, okay, so you're ready to
Speaker 1: get it out. Now, you're ready to start becoming yourself.
Speaker 1: But for the big Daddy, T big had So this
Speaker 1: is the beginning thirteen years ago, and when you started
Speaker 1: scratching at the surface and saying I'm ready to come
Speaker 1: out as myself. Not necessarily come out, but like you're
Speaker 1: ready start getting it up there. I think I started
Speaker 1: laying the pavement back things. I remember um because I
Speaker 1: went back second time to rehab, and it was more
Speaker 1: about this your head. Yeah, it was more about connecting
Speaker 1: this and this. Yeah. Yeah, And I remember doing a
Speaker 1: my counselor you know. I was so full of crap
Speaker 1: that I had to sit out in the hall the
Speaker 1: first four days with a with a with a signer
Speaker 1: on his neck to sit I'm full of crap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: were you just like yeah, I was still in show biz. Baby,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Yeah, I'm tired, and how you
Speaker 1: I mean that guy that I'm full of crap? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is what it said. Is said something else. But
Speaker 1: I had to learn to let all that go. I
Speaker 1: had to become that small person, humbled. No, I just
Speaker 1: had to let I had to give in to him.
Speaker 1: Feel it. Yeah, how did that feel when you feel
Speaker 1: all that? It's pretty awesome. We had a funeral for
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah him, Yeah was great as I had
Speaker 1: a lot of nice things to say about him. I did, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was a great part of him. But
Speaker 1: the rebirth started at that point. I love actual like
Speaker 1: like putting physical, acting it out, acting it out. That
Speaker 1: really does help. It does, Yeah, it makes it really
Speaker 1: So I got out of the hall and came back in.
Speaker 1: But you know, leaving that leaving that facility at that point, Um,
Speaker 1: it wasn't about drugs, it wasn't about alcohol. It was
Speaker 1: about getting my heart and mind to connect on who
Speaker 1: I was. So that started re started the journey. When
Speaker 1: was that how many years ago? Uh? Twelve years ago? Okay,
Speaker 1: so that started the journey at least. I moved into
Speaker 1: Mary Francis Rudy's guesthouse. And she's an awesome lady over
Speaker 1: here in Belmont Boulevard and Nashville, Tennessee. Um, she said,
Speaker 1: all right, you can live here. You can live here
Speaker 1: for free, but I will be knocking on that door
Speaker 1: at seven thirty every morning, and you will give me
Speaker 1: the schedule of who you're writing with and what you're doing.
Speaker 1: So she was an angel. She was. And there was
Speaker 1: this amazing grand piano in the four year and I
Speaker 1: sat there just one note at a time started you know,
Speaker 1: I can play piato, but I really truly started to
Speaker 1: accountable and she kept you inspired on your Six months later,
Speaker 1: we had written probably twenty six songs for the Journey
Speaker 1: On album, and I started being bright enough to write
Speaker 1: with people. And that is to put yourself out about
Speaker 1: that songwriting community. How that How that feels like putting
Speaker 1: yourself out there because you have to like say your
Speaker 1: tra well. Journey was a Christian record. It was a
Speaker 1: continued great Christian country, I know, so you know, God
Speaker 1: was speaking, the universal speaking my friends, and there's nothing
Speaker 1: better than the writing with Christian writers because they're so funny,
Speaker 1: goofy and you needed that face. Yeah. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the writers. There are seven
Speaker 1: riders on that record, and most of them were like,
Speaker 1: what are you really trying to say? Because I would
Speaker 1: find myself going back to you, that guy, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to sugarcoat things. But that made you say the truth. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so get off my cord. It was journey On an
Speaker 1: important album for you. It was it was the beginning
Speaker 1: of me musically. I think I had some great records
Speaker 1: and you heard some of my soul and those records. Um,
Speaker 1: but journey On was the real window that you were
Speaker 1: starting to see inside of that tiny person that was
Speaker 1: becoming a grown up man. Yeah, so I love it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And then this is the new albums, all
Speaker 1: grown up time. And so then on November two, after
Speaker 1: you made the big statement, you came out, You freed yourself.
Speaker 1: You said I'm gonna be authentically who I am. And
Speaker 1: then and I wasn't only coming out for myself during
Speaker 1: that time. I had fallen in love with a with
Speaker 1: a great guy. Do you think falling in love with
Speaker 1: someone that you truly wanted to be with made you
Speaker 1: want to come out more? Um, it actually made me
Speaker 1: hesitate for a minute, because I wasn't just coming out
Speaker 1: for me. I was we were both coming out because
Speaker 1: they were really his family knew, but not a lot
Speaker 1: of their family knew, you know, the big secret. And
Speaker 1: the support was just overwhelming from from from everyone you know,
Speaker 1: and quite honest, because we are friends and we're talking honest.
Speaker 1: It wasn't all roses. You know, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of hate out there and people they are and and
Speaker 1: and I understand that. So but my friend Shelley Right
Speaker 1: also told me she goes for at least a year.
Speaker 1: Don't be reading all that stuff, you know, because you
Speaker 1: you want to get your dukes up, and you can't
Speaker 1: fight hate with hate. You fight hate with love. And
Speaker 1: so I'm still here. It is almost two years later.
Speaker 1: I'm nine months. I'm still going through some of those
Speaker 1: and it's very interesting what people wrote in the moment
Speaker 1: that they've taken back when you because you know, seventeen
Speaker 1: mouths later, you get an answer for me, Well, thank
Speaker 1: you for your comment, and I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: And I would really appreciate, um um your love and
Speaker 1: support in the future if you can. So you write
Speaker 1: people back. Absolutely, yes, absolutely, what a bigger person. Well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you that some of them I did
Speaker 1: start f oh no love l Well, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm still disabled rid that al was, But you're intentional.
Speaker 1: I'm intentional, and um I have people around me that
Speaker 1: are intentional and that are lovely and awesome, and um,
Speaker 1: I don't really allow much. And it's not that as
Speaker 1: you should, yeah, and you can see it coming and
Speaker 1: you protect yourself, all right, you do. So tell me
Speaker 1: about House on Fire, the creation of that album and
Speaker 1: why you're so excited about it. Um. It started for
Speaker 1: me House on Fire. The first time we wrote was
Speaker 1: the thirty eight Song Festival in Panama City, Florida. Well
Speaker 1: in that area, a huge festival. There'll be my third
Speaker 1: year doing doing it. But um, in the car ride
Speaker 1: down with Eric how Big and Drew Davis and so
Speaker 1: you guys, come on, let's go down and do this thing.
Speaker 1: And we just the the idea of this album said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to want to do next. You know,
Speaker 1: for me it was I want to go out and
Speaker 1: try to get a new recording situation. Um, but I
Speaker 1: don't know what that looks like. So, you know, Eric's
Speaker 1: awesome when let's just start writing some song the band
Speaker 1: to Davis such a hippie, let's just hey man, let's
Speaker 1: just start writing some songs. So the first song we
Speaker 1: wrote for this albums a song called All Night Tonight.
Speaker 1: We wrote it on the thirty sixth floor of Mary
Speaker 1: Francis Rudy's beach Condo's important. Yeah, and uh, that started
Speaker 1: the ball rolling and we came back and just would
Speaker 1: shed and we had written seven songs in a month,
Speaker 1: and we started recording and we were happy with that,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't. I wasn't as happy as there's got
Speaker 1: to be more. So, Um, I cut back on the
Speaker 1: writing a little bit because I'm not a selfish writer.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great songs out there, but you
Speaker 1: knew what you wanted to say, yes, and so we
Speaker 1: went through Eric's catalog and Drew's catalog and found some
Speaker 1: really hadn't go any further than that that's awesome, yes,
Speaker 1: And we started kind of tailor making, so a couple
Speaker 1: of songs I became a writer on because you made
Speaker 1: them for me. Yes, And of course that's we wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure that was okay with the writers. But
Speaker 1: I changed a lot of the stuff in the song. Um,
Speaker 1: and then the rest we're just um um. Andy Bosco
Speaker 1: wrote a great song called Fighter Yeah, and it's closes
Speaker 1: out the album. So it starts out rocking fund and
Speaker 1: it gets to the meat and potatoes, then it gets
Speaker 1: to the spiritual stuff in the end, change the world stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you have any favorites or songs that like, really
Speaker 1: really this is the first album that I've ever done
Speaker 1: that I will go back. And I'm not a big
Speaker 1: guy like, oh I love myself. I'm gonna hear my
Speaker 1: so saying, but I go back to this album because
Speaker 1: of the songs. I'm a runner, a run and um,
Speaker 1: it's very unusual that I would put myself on the iPod.
Speaker 1: I love the music that much. It. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: said you didn't know what kind of record label situation.
Speaker 1: You've gotten a great situation step for yourself. Tell me
Speaker 1: about that. Well, it's interesting, I am. But you know,
Speaker 1: we shopped. This is another story that people need to
Speaker 1: know that didn't come easy as well. We finished this record,
Speaker 1: we all thought it was was pretty good, and we
Speaker 1: shopped it for a good four months. But industry was
Speaker 1: so amazing. Everyone took the meetings, everyone loved the music.
Speaker 1: But I did kind of have the pink elephant in
Speaker 1: the room a lot of times. Yeah, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do with this guy? You know?
Speaker 1: And so, um what it actually happened and I actually
Speaker 1: ended up back in the Sony family with this, I know,
Speaker 1: with this Sony Red distribution deal. Um, that is just
Speaker 1: it's a big old full circle right there. But the
Speaker 1: first thing I said to Dwayne at the label, who
Speaker 1: had worked at Dwayne Brown, who had worked at the
Speaker 1: label for since I was there, he'll he'll, He'll tell
Speaker 1: you this. The first thing I said was, listen, man,
Speaker 1: just listen to the record. Can we please not bring
Speaker 1: the pink elephant in the room. He goes, He's dead,
Speaker 1: And that's great because you just want to make it
Speaker 1: about the music. Absolutely. Yeah, So it was about the music.
Speaker 1: And I'm super excited because this will be the biggest
Speaker 1: album launched for me. Um. Everything has been independent since
Speaker 1: journey On, so this will be, um um the little
Speaker 1: album that could. Yeah that your story makes my heart
Speaker 1: sing because the fact that you have just stayed through
Speaker 1: all of it, You never quit, you always kept fight.
Speaker 1: You're the fighter. Like that sounds important to me for yourself.
Speaker 1: Why do you hear that song? You'll recognize something about it.
Speaker 1: But like, how proud are you of the man you are?
Speaker 1: I'm proud of I'm proud of where I'm at today. Um,
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of work ahead work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Matthew and I are great, My family is great,
Speaker 1: and we'll um just looking forward to uh to tour. Dates.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of funny. We'll talk about this briefly.
Speaker 1: It's been crazy because we would go into shows and
Speaker 1: I'd be so grateful if there'd be a hundred people there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys will love you so much, the
Speaker 1: hundred people. And as this is all progressed, I've seen
Speaker 1: that grow and grow and grow. Cool is that? Um?
Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to, uh to going out
Speaker 1: there on this next year and seeing some big crowds
Speaker 1: and letting them hear my story. Do you know where
Speaker 1: you're going to kick off your tour? I don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: so TVD, when is touring going to start? Well, you
Speaker 1: never stopped touring in country music. You know that you're
Speaker 1: married to It's an awesome musician seven you did it yourself. Yeah, yeah, So,
Speaker 1: but an official tour we're working on announcing because we
Speaker 1: we want to do that and so I'm with Buddy
Speaker 1: the Attraction and there's a lot of great artists on Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is exciting. So we'll see what happens. And the
Speaker 1: album launches November eleven, Lucky number eleven eleven eleven? Is
Speaker 1: that also was an accident? I hope? So do you
Speaker 1: feel like, this is what do you feel about all this? Well?
Speaker 1: Number one important thing is that I'm not afraid to feel.
Speaker 1: So I feel a lot of things. You know. I
Speaker 1: feel happy, I joy, I feel terrified, just whatever the
Speaker 1: day is, you know about Oh, I gotta really put
Speaker 1: myself out there, you know, but um, something always happens
Speaker 1: in the day that lets me know that I'm on
Speaker 1: the right path. Do you have do you look for? Science?
Speaker 1: Gotta expect this in depth interview that we're just gonna
Speaker 1: be silly. But I've enjoyed this, really, I have you have? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed this because, um, I know that I'm getting
Speaker 1: to speak true to a friend and and that's going
Speaker 1: out of our hearts to you guys. And it doesn't
Speaker 1: get any better than that. Well, you know the point
Speaker 1: of my podcast is to interview people who has hat
Speaker 1: who have had a beautiful life journey in the music
Speaker 1: industry on some sort, but to showcase the highs lows
Speaker 1: and inspiration because I it's very important to me. I
Speaker 1: feel like my calling on life is to showcase people
Speaker 1: who are great and to show that like everyone has struggles,
Speaker 1: but you have to persevere about and you have to
Speaker 1: pursue your calling, because that's why we're put on this
Speaker 1: earth from God. Life in full bloom people, that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking. That's the only reason we're here there, that's
Speaker 1: the only reason where I'm bloom. I'm a bloom and idiot.
Speaker 1: But days two you are a beautiful Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, So we're gonna wrap up. I
Speaker 1: don't want to wrap up because I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you forever. Where do you see your life in
Speaker 1: the next ten years and your vision board and your dreams?
Speaker 1: What do you want the next ten years to look like? Well,
Speaker 1: I think I'll still be making records. It will be
Speaker 1: interesting to see as this progress is what what the
Speaker 1: next album, the next album looks like in touring and
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. But you know, I just have
Speaker 1: normal dreams. I want to get married. I want to
Speaker 1: have a family, you know, And a lot of my
Speaker 1: musician friends are my age and are just starting families.
Speaker 1: And so I love that we're in a place today
Speaker 1: that that I'm not afraid to dream that. So that's
Speaker 1: just the future for me and I just have a
Speaker 1: very strong feeling that's that's exactly what you will be
Speaker 1: talking about a year from now, and then you know,
Speaker 1: probably two years from now. So get married, have family,
Speaker 1: keep tour and make great music. Absolutely, that's it living
Speaker 1: the dream. Okay. So I like to wrap up with
Speaker 1: leave your Light, so out of everything you've experienced your
Speaker 1: whole life journey, leave inspiration that you how you feel
Speaker 1: inspired and how you want to inspire people. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, through music, through my spirituality, through my gift.
Speaker 1: What's your message? My message is that you can go
Speaker 1: out there and be exactly who you want to be
Speaker 1: in this life. You just have to work hard for
Speaker 1: it and but yourself, be authentic and find some way,
Speaker 1: somehow to find your spiritual path. So it's very important.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, Ty Herndon, House on Fire November eleven,
Speaker 1: coming at you in a moment we would die for
Speaker 1: see you, guys, cal I hope you loved hearing from
Speaker 1: Ty Herndon. Y'all go pick up his album House on
Speaker 1: Fire next week. Is so exciting. I have the Loving
Speaker 1: Mary Baby in. This is a band composed of superstars.
Speaker 1: Rebecca Lynn Howard had the huge hit for Give. She's
Speaker 1: a two time Grammy winner. There is Marty Frederickson. He's
Speaker 1: produced everyone from Aerosmith to Gavin Rossdell to Carrie under A,
Speaker 1: Debuck Cherry to Doctor to Ozzy Osbourne to name a few. Oh,
Speaker 1: Faith Hill too. And then there are two couples in
Speaker 1: the band. Rebecca Lynn Howard and her husband Alicia are
Speaker 1: in the band, and we also wrote the song Lipstick
Speaker 1: together for Runaway June with Runaway June. And then you guys,
Speaker 1: there's another couple in the band, Susie and Andrew. So
Speaker 1: it's like Fleetwood Mac back in the day. How fun
Speaker 1: is that? And y'all they talked about everything. They just
Speaker 1: released an album, A Little Bit of Love. It is
Speaker 1: so incredible. Oh, I forgot to mention. They are Steven
Speaker 1: Tyler's band. They tour with Steven Tyler and they played
Speaker 1: for Steven Tyler, so it's pretty much as cool as
Speaker 1: you can get. These guys are literally rock and roll.
Speaker 1: They're straight out of a rock and roll movie. They're
Speaker 1: so cool to the core. Y'all will not want to
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