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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama.

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Speaker 3: Girl Drama, Girl, all about them.

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Speaker 4: High school queens.

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Speaker 1: We'll take you for a ride. And our comic girl

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Speaker 1: cheering for the right teams, Drama Queens Jays go up

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Speaker 1: Girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 5: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama, drahn The

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Speaker 5: Queens Drama Queens.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, everybody, here we are.

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Speaker 1: We're back for episode season five, episode nine for tonight.

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Speaker 1: We're only here to Know. Air February twenty six, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. And guys, we have Michayla McManus with us.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you back. Ready to talk

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Speaker 1: about the episode. What would you like to read the synopsis?

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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about what happened here.

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Speaker 2: It's in the chat.

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Speaker 1: It's in the chat.

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Speaker 2: Now you know how the sausage gets made. Everything's in

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Speaker 2: the chat.

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Speaker 3: Okay. It's the first game of the season and it's

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Speaker 3: Mount's big chance to impress with his coverage of the game. Meanwhile, Haley, Brook, Peyton,

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Speaker 3: Lindsay and Mia get locked in the tree Hill Library

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Speaker 3: and a lot gets said, particularly between Lindsay and Peyton. Elsewhere,

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Speaker 3: Nathan and Lucas endeavored to tell both Haley and Lindsay

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Speaker 3: about their indiscretions.

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Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, this is a packed episode, but man, I

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Speaker 1: loved the flow. This felt so good just from the openings.

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Speaker 1: Even the recap had music behind it. It was shot

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Speaker 1: by Joe Devola, who I don't was he ever a

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Speaker 1: music video director because I know he was MTV for

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Speaker 2: He wanted to be, he wasn't you know what.

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Speaker 1: He did a really great job with this episode. I

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Speaker 1: thought the flow was so beautiful. I didn't like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so cringe. I was like, are we going to

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Speaker 2: talk about it? All right, let's just talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it out of the way.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's get it out of the way.

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Speaker 2: Hill go listen.

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Speaker 6: You literally have your arms outstretched.

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Speaker 2: My arms are outstretched. Listen, you guys. It was an

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Speaker 2: awkward time. Our boss was trying to sleep with poor

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Speaker 2: sweet Kate and she was just not having it, and

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Speaker 2: he was like, I know how to win her over.

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Speaker 2: We'll turn the whole episode into a music video for her.

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Speaker 2: And even she was a little like, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Why would all these characters be lip singing to my song?

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Speaker 4: And they were like it's gonna be great, And oh, Michael,

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Speaker 4: I said, why would we in the middle of an

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Speaker 2: We've never heard. She's writing it on the spot. We

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Speaker 1: It's so stupid.

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Speaker 2: In the script, it was just like it wasn't even

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Speaker 2: and record, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, do you remember that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mikayla for you being like brand new, how.

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Speaker 1: Uncomfort just lean against this wall of books and you know, sing, sing,

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Speaker 1: sing how you're feeling.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like it was a magnolia like that movie.

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Speaker 3: Didn't they do that in the movie?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they did. Maybe they're trying to copy that.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, because that would happen quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: It might have been I don't sing on TV. That's

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Speaker 2: not my game, especially not if I know if Joy's singing,

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Speaker 2: if Kate's singing, I want no part of this contest

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Speaker 1: Well, aside from that, I thought it was really fun

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Speaker 4: The girls like, come on, they should.

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Speaker 6: I wish they'd mirrored it when we got out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, they made us do all the emotional labor

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Speaker 1: Well, he was great. And also Jamie and Quinton doing

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Speaker 4: And you know what I loved too was getting into

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Speaker 2: Oh, Rick, that was great. Rick Clark was our real

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Speaker 6: So cool to get inside of it.

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Speaker 4: And it was always fun for us when you know,

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Speaker 6: See him on camera in this episode.

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Speaker 2: Rick Clark's a good dude. When all the me too

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the music video at the beginning was so cool.

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Speaker 2: Why do we want to do another one? Weird?

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Speaker 1: It was a good epic opening and then leading us

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Speaker 2: I just want to know why Peyton chooses the day

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Speaker 2: we're shooting the music video. We've been there all day.

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Speaker 2: I'm really sorry about all the Lindsay stuff. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: Let me do it in front of a bunch of

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Speaker 6: I loved it.

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Speaker 4: And then Peyton's response because she's looking at you guys, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You mean the episode written by your wonderful husband that

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Speaker 4: These guys we work for are just like this is

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, is actually sidebar when Cap and you

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Speaker 1: We were just like, what is this dialogue so tacky?

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Speaker 6: I literally don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Well. I remember the first time I read this script

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Speaker 3: Because I felt that when and this is I'm jumping

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Speaker 2: Challenging the only thing that I could think that like

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Speaker 2: they're not afraid to get dirty, and they're also able

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Speaker 3: Thank God for that. At the end of the episode, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If we just had to live in that stew.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Pauz, But yeah, where you guys take it, and

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Speaker 4: that's it. That's why it feels confusing, right, it's like whiplash.

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Speaker 4: There's such authenticity and it feels relieving of course, but

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Speaker 4: also to your point, Hillary, the immaturity of like a

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Speaker 1: Like big equals drama.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like, I don't think so, but there

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Speaker 4: when you fall backwards with that chair, Oh my god,

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Speaker 4: when like when Mouth's ringer is Looney Tunes and it's

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Speaker 2: This stuff is so funny?

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Speaker 4: And then yeah, when they start taking cheap shots, You're like, wait,

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Speaker 2: Can we can we do more?

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Speaker 6: Of those things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have had expensive shots rather than cheap shots.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It was a writers strike.

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Speaker 2: What were you gonna do? See kids, see what happens.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yeah, is the strike? Oh well,

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Speaker 2: At the beginning of the episode, we get that that

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Speaker 2: And I liked it because while while Kayla and I

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 4: Her husband's kissing the nanny and he's seen or naked.

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Speaker 4: Well, it would have been cool, like in that way

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Speaker 1: Yeah that you all do for me.

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Speaker 4: If if somehow they'd been able to give that same

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Speaker 4: I can tell you about a mother or is this

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Speaker 4: would have been so juicy if Haley it had a

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Speaker 2: Oh how creepy. The Carrie just like swept in though, Man,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to grad school and I'm gonna miss

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Speaker 2: I know I love her, but didn't make all of

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Speaker 1: There's no way I would hire a nanny that looks

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Speaker 2: and I came home and she was swimming, and I

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00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: was like, nope, gotta go peace. You do a kid

441
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: goodbye pass.

442
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: That's so inappropriate relationship.

443
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: They're like in your home and with your kids, Like.

444
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she you know what if she's going to

445
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: be in your house swimming with your husband and your child.

446
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: She should be in a like a wetsuit, like one.

447
00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 3: Of the little.

448
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: One of those nineteen twenties like pantaloons, the.

449
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: Sake of like a per total propriety in letting you

450
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: know you should be comfortable because I am totally out

451
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: of you know, off limits.

452
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: That moment when she calls, Oh god, it's so creepy.

453
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: First of all, when she calls, he calls her her mama, which, oh,

454
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: understandable they're spending some time, but it is such a

455
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: like it's such a close relationship. And then that moment

456
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: where she says, can I tell you a secret? So

457
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: she's like, sometimes I pretend you're my kid.

458
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 6: She said, you know that with all of us so badly.

459
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 3: I did not like that.

460
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 6: I do like.

461
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: No, that's like our worst nightmare.

462
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: Ye oh my, don't do that psychony.

463
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 2: Oh Nanny Carrey. Oh, I mean, do we think Nathan's

464
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: gonna tell her for real? Right?

465
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: Well, now that she's leaving, I think she's trying to

466
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 1: get it so that he doesn't have to tell her

467
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: because now she's removing herself from the equation and so

468
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: she's not a threat anymore. So that buys her a

469
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: little more time of him not telling her.

470
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: But he says at the end of the episode with Lucas, Yeah,

471
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: and he.

472
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: Says that thing, I wait, where is it? I wrote

473
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 4: it down that I thought was really really beautiful to hear,

474
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: especially from Nathan, like just given his dynamic growing up

475
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: with Dan and Dan's jersey being pulled off the wall,

476
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 4: like yeah, and Mouth's whole overview of this is really

477
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 4: a story about fathers and sons. That they wrapped that

478
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 4: all up with Nathan saying, I have to stop being

479
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 4: my father and start being the father my son thinks

480
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 4: I am like he is saying that he wants to

481
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 4: be different, he wants to live up to being the

482
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: kind of man that is a goal. And I feel like,

483
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 4: I don't remember what happens in the next one, but

484
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 4: I feel like he wants to tell Haley or is

485
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: gonna tell Haley or I don't know, but.

486
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: I just love that he's like, I'm gonna tell Haley

487
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: and Lucas, who he just confronted about kissing Peyton Like crickets,

488
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: there's not one one minute where Lucas is like, yeah,

489
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: I should probably tell Lindsey too, right right, No, nothing,

490
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: not even slightly and by the.

491
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 4: Way, it's Peyton who cleans up Lucas's mess because Brooke

492
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: reveals in this episode that she's seen that ring.

493
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 6: She knows it was Peyton's.

494
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 4: Ring, and Peyton does the greatest kindness and says, I

495
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 4: only know what that ring looks like because Keith gave

496
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: it to Karen.

497
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: Oh.

498
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 6: That made me cry.

499
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 4: I was like, that is such a beautiful choice. That

500
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: is a great piece of writing.

501
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: And it.

502
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 6: You, Michayla, you.

503
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: Carry that into that last scene when Lindsay goes to

504
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 4: sit with Lucas in the gym and you ask what

505
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: he's thinking about and he says, Keith, like, you can

506
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: see it on your face that.

507
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 6: You know that now.

508
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: It's so beautiful, and.

509
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: It did.

510
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: When the episode ended, I was like, wait a minute,

511
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: I'm here having all these feelings about Lucas and Lindsay

512
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: being like oh, and then I'm like, wait, wait, Peyton

513
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: cleaned up his mess. Nathan says he's gonna go clean

514
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: up his mess, but that boy's not cleaning Lucas is

515
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 4: not cleaning up his mess currently. I wonder if he

516
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: will in five point ten, which we shall see.

517
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: Mikayla. When we watched the last episode that your husband wrote,

518
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: and it was that speech in the gym where it's

519
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be like Keith and I am gonna

520
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: love you, but let you go. I loved it, but

521
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: we joked about how manipulative it is right where it's

522
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: like Peyton's like, I'm Keith now, I'm Keith and you're

523
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: Karen now. And so every time every time he said

524
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: in this episode, I'm thinking about Keith, I loved it.

525
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: I cracked up because I was like, is this talking

526
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: think about Keith or Keith Peyton? Keith Peyton?

527
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I.

528
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: Didn't even catch that.

529
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 6: That's so fun.

530
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: The next T shirt we're making Keith Peyton.

531
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is now that you know Peyton dropped

532
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: the Keith bomb. Now that's all Lucas is thinking about.

533
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Okay, we have like these great we have so many

534
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: of these great fan questions about Lindsay. One of them

535
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: is from Lincoln and he said, you and Chad had

536
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: great chemistry. What do you think made Lucas and Lindsay

537
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: work as a couple. What was it that when you

538
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: got there you like, I mean, because you guys did,

539
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: there was there was a great chemistry between the two

540
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: of you. Did you ever spend time thinking about what

541
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: that is or you just sort of like we're experiencing

542
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: being there.

543
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: Oh. The only thing I can speak to is we

544
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: got along like Gangbusters, you know when the camera's rolling.

545
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: It was just like easy with him. And yeah, I

546
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: said before, like he was super. He would just like

547
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: hold my hand through all of the me learning and

548
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out as I went along, because

549
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: the only thing to do is just like jump in

550
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: and go, you know. Yeah, you just kind of have to,

551
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: like the train is going and you just have to

552
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: like jump on all off the train. And so I

553
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: was so appreciative of that that maybe that's what what

554
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: you you know, are seeing. I mean I certainly every

555
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: time I have a love interest on any show, it's

556
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: like I really hope that I can connect with that

557
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: person off screen. Yeah, oh, that that will just naturally

558
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: play out, you know on screen.

559
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Did you get like were fans because you guys did

560
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: have good chemistry, I mean, did fans Were you getting mail?

561
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: Were you getting like things on message boards like hate mail?

562
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: Did they love him to Lindsay?

563
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: People? Oh no, people hate Lindsay. Why I'll read just

564
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: like because I got in the way of the Peyton

565
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: Lucas love story, you know. So I remember I went

566
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: off to.

567
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: Well, they don't hate Jake Chagelski. Is this hosogyny thing.

568
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 6: No, I don't know.

569
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: I just really went after Lindsay. And when I went

570
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: off to do Law and Order, I remember Mike being like,

571
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I should tell you this. There's like

572
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: a petition circulating online and it's these like one Tree

573
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: Hill fans. Oh no, yes, and they were like, now

574
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: she's on Law and Order, sign this petition. We want

575
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: her out, we want And I'm like, you, guys, that.

576
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 6: Is literally insane.

577
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: That's but it was. It was serious. And people remember

578
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: when we did the charity basketball game. They we did

579
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: like an autograph signing and I was saying you and

580
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: this woman was just like staring daggers at me, like

581
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: down the line. I could feel it, and the grown

582
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: woman like she's there with her teenage daughter and she

583
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: finally gets to me and she looks me square in

584
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: the eyes and she goes, he doesn't love you, weird,

585
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: And I was like, whoa. And you Sofia, you like

586
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: swooped right in. You're like okay, this is not real life.

587
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: This is Mikayla.

588
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's amazing, She's doing her job.

589
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the fans aren't like there is a major backlash.

590
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: For sure with Lindsay. I think she just like stirred

591
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: a lot, and I don't think people like that very much.

592
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: So that was a whole other experience to have to

593
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: deal with.

594
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 6: I was like, my god, I'm so sorry person.

595
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: You know, wait, have you done conventions? Have you done

596
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: any of the one Tree Hill conventions?

597
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh?

598
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 6: Oh you have the CODs.

599
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: Listen if you ever want to do a convention, I

600
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: would love to do a Clayton Lindsay photo and just

601
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: be like, you got to take both of us. We're

602
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: a package deal. Yes, yeah, I like all these I

603
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 2: get it because when it was Brooke and Lucas and

604
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: Peyton was the meddlesome one, like the hate was so

605
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, there's still girls online that are like that.

606
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 6: Oh by the way, and same for me.

607
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: We are just like you never stood a chance you

608
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: are And I'm like, oh wow, I know that this

609
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: was our job, like that none of those relationships were

610
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: real relationships, right.

611
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: Because it's like they're really in it, they really in it.

612
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: You know, so you're like, Okay, I guess.

613
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: I want to believe in something like that. That's why

614
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: I watched Pump Rules because it.

615
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: Is any way. I really do think that because you

616
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: watch that with your husband and like the internet listen that,

617
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: our phones listened to everything we do. There was a

618
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: wait where I was like, why am I suddenly getting

619
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: all this vander Pump it's me stuff on my Instagram?

620
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 4: Like why is the algorithm serving me this?

621
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, Jeffrey, Yeah, it's the Morgans, it's

622
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: you and your husband. God, I love it, you know. Okay,

623
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: So you know who loved the drama more than anyone

624
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: in this episode is our sweet Kate Vogel.

625
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: Oh, God, just.

626
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: Loved it. She went from being a wallflower to being

627
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: like the instigator this episode. Yeah, she was pulling some strings.

628
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: It was like, let's be nice to each other now,

629
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: maybe we should just like bitch a little bit right now.

630
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: That'd be kind of fun.

631
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, she let that whole the music bit. She was like,

632
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: all right, let's go.

633
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why is there a guitar in the library?

634
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: Great question?

635
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Has anyone ever seen a guitar in a library?

636
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: No? No, I mean like the whiskey. I can believe

637
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: the guitar is a little far fetched.

638
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so odd and interesting too that, like,

639
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: to your point, she really does feel like she's hitting

640
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 4: all the keys in this episode because she.

641
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 6: Wants to know who we hate.

642
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 4: She wants to dig into the stuff, she wants to

643
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: kind of needle everybody. And then she's also like, maybe

644
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: girls shouldn't tear each other down and we should just

645
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: compliment each other. And I'm like, what's happening here, babe?

646
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: But I did like that part.

647
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: It's fun to show someone else your old stomping grounds,

648
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I liked kind of this little

649
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: buddy energy. Then pain in me a had and it,

650
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it did hurt to randomly open up the

651
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: doors of Trick and look inside the gym. Well, that

652
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: was so weird, so weird. And I remember saying, like,

653
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: this is Dune. But it was a first time director

654
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: and they wanted to make art.

655
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: Well so well, And you know what I was feeling

656
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: when I watched that, I felt like they they had

657
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: gone ooh. When we pulled back the sides of the

658
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: set of Haley's classroom, it looked really cool. Let's do

659
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: it with the trick doors, and then we'll be in

660
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 4: the gym and we can make it our thing, Like

661
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: somebody decided it would be a cool transition. And it's like,

662
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 4: but the bar doesn't open into the gym, so it

663
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: doesn't work the same.

664
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: Guys, It's like for Dora Hats, like let's look at

665
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: for do hats.

666
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: Maybe we shouldn't, Maybe we should leave that in the forties.

667
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: But I think Mia treating all of the women in

668
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: the library as characters allowed her to be the voice

669
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: of our viewers because she's getting to say all the

670
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: things that the viewers at home wanted to say.

671
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 6: And you know what's so interesting about you saying that?

672
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm just realizing that while we're in the library, Mia goes.

673
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 6: And finds Lucas's book for the first time.

674
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: She's the one person who hasn't read it.

675
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so in a way, she's.

676
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: Really like she's she's paging through the book in real time.

677
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a weird sensation to have, Like lindsay, have

678
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: edited the book and and know like intimate details about

679
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: our lives.

680
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: I can't believe he still used our real names in

681
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: the book. Yeah he did.

682
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: Have you guys, ever had someone that just knew too

683
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: much about you in real life, and you're like, how

684
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: do I I don't know how to navigate this. I

685
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: have no idea you mean like.

686
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: You mean like a friend who like in social circles

687
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: or something who would like out you about.

688
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: Like Lindsay's clearly a part of our world now, but

689
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: in a way that like none of the conversations are natural.

690
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: I can never be like, hey, Lindsay, let me talk

691
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: to you about when my mom died, because she's like, yeah,

692
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 2: I know, I edited the book about it. Oh right.

693
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: Oh. I hate that. I hate knowing things about people

694
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: that they don't know that I know. It's the worst.

695
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 6: It's why I can't talk to famous people.

696
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: I can't like if we go we go to on

697
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: a word show, I can't like talk to if I cannot,

698
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: I cannot because I'm like, am I supposed to ask

699
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: how you are or what you've been up to? You're

700
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: here nominated in a movie, like I don't I lose

701
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: the ability to speak to a person when I'm like,

702
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 4: I know so much about you, not even necessarily by choice,

703
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: and I've lost the ability to ask you questions like

704
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: a normal person.

705
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: And I'm going to leave now absolutely the same experience.

706
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating, it's kind I think that's why I

707
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: like check out of celebrity culture. I don't know what's

708
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: going on or who anybody is anymore, because I want

709
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: to be able to have an honest conversation.

710
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 6: Yeah I cannot. I just can't be a part of it.

711
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't like to google anybody because

712
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't like to know anything.

713
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: No, it's too scary.

714
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: But I'm wondering for you, Hillary having written your book

715
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: because it is so personal, it's so much of your journey,

716
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: and like, do you feel that way about people?

717
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: I never know who's read it, you know what I mean?

718
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 2: Like I think I was Uh, I didn't think it through.

719
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 2: And so when all my teachers from a middle school

720
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: and high school read it and did a book club,

721
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, I talk about my sex

722
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: life in this that's weird, okay. And now that I'm

723
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: doing more stuff at my kids' school, I'm always kind

724
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: of caught off guard by who's read it because I

725
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: assume that no one did, you know, Like that's a

726
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: weird thing, Like why would they? And then sometimes people

727
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: would tell me and I'm just like, oh, oh, you

728
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: see my husband and I have basketball games, Like you

729
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: definitely know that I made him have sex with me

730
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: so I can have a baby. Like that's It's just

731
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't think it through and you're

732
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: doing it. The book thing's weird cause it's not immediate

733
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: gratification like a TV show is like once that is

734
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: out into the world. Yeah, I don't know. It's just

735
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 2: a different format than a book. A book feels really

736
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: like secret telling.

737
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Would you rather someone who you don't know, who you're

738
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: meeting for the first time and you're getting to know them,

739
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: would you rather that if they had read your book?

740
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: Would you rather them tell you straight away oh yeah,

741
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: I read your book and blah blah, or would you rather

742
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: find out later? Because they were like, I don't know

743
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: if I should say it, and then.

744
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: No, definitely have a We have a painter that lives

745
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: here on our property and helps us with our animals

746
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: and then like paints the landscapes and stuff. And he

747
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: came highly recommended through friends of ours. We just needed

748
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: a body on the farm to help here. And when

749
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: he first moved on to the property, he was like,

750
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right away. I listened to

751
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: your audiobook and I don't want that to be weird.

752
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know what I was getting into

753
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: up here, and I respect your journey, but I wasn't

754
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: going to be a creeper and like pretend I didn't

755
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: know things about you guys that I didn't know.

756
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, that's so great, awesome,

757
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: such a good way to handle that.

758
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 2: Thanks for telling me. Yeah, yeah, it made me feel

759
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: much better. But also like as a boy, sorry you

760
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: had to sit through all that. That was a lot

761
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: of fertility talk, my guy.

762
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good, probably good for him.

763
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: I think I reached out to you right after I

764
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: read it. Both my mom and Mike gifted me that

765
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: book from Oh Babe, And it was the start of

766
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: the pandemic and I miscarried and I went in for

767
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: my DNC Friday before Mother's Day, and like so healing

768
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: for me. It was, Yeah, it's really brave to put

769
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: all of that out there, and I think you've helped

770
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: a lot of people like you certainly helped me. It was.

771
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: I loved it so much and I realized beyond our

772
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: four dum connection, we had the same midwife.

773
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: What you used Deborah Frank It was oh my god.

774
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: She yeah, she delivered Gabriel, my firstborn. So that was

775
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: another just like bizarre connection.

776
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: Peyton and Lindsay are the same person.

777
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: You guys meant to be.

778
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just walk the same path as someone, and

779
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: it's always kind of like tricky, who's gonna who's going

780
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: to open up first?

781
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: You know?

782
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: And I think with my book that was my way

783
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: of being like, you know what, Okay, I'll just open

784
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: up everything first, and then you know, people can come

785
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: to me as they want to. And so sometimes people

786
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: come up about the fertility stuff for sure, and then

787
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: other parts are about like the me too stuff or

788
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, we're just not fitting in is another theme.

789
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: And the book thing is just really intimate because you

790
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: can't fake it. You can't. You can't put that stuff

791
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: out there and like gloss over it. You have to

792
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: go full dark dirt. And I guess writing about yourself

793
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: is very different than someone else writing about you because

794
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: the fact that Lucas has used all his friends and

795
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: people in this way made me wonder, like, oh, I

796
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: wonder who in my book was like this sucks? You

797
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: know me stop tiring to me, Like my manager of

798
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: the candy stores, he like, I really wish she wouldn't

799
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: have written about this.

800
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 6: I don't know.

801
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, yeah, we read a lot

802
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: of biographies and then you meet the people and you're like, oh,

803
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: seemed better in the book, do you know.

804
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I always wonder how that goes when people write biographies

805
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: meet the people in your life that you I mean,

806
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: you're not writing unless you have something interesting to say.

807
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: And you don't have something interesting to say unless things

808
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: have happened to you, and things haven't happened to you,

809
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: unless there have been some people in your life and

810
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: some bad things that have happened. And so there's really

811
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: only one way to tell that, which is to just

812
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: be honest. And I wonder about that sometimes, about just how,

813
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: oh I think about the people in my life if

814
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: I ever did that, well, how they would react? I mean,

815
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: did you get a lot of messages or like people

816
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: in your I don't know family, like people that you

817
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: would run into, who were did you have to send

818
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: out things like if I'm going to talk about you,

819
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: you got to sign this thing.

820
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: No, I just cut whole things out. I was like,

821
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: we don't need this character. We can pretend this wasn't

822
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: a bit Lindsey's speech about wanting to get that day right,

823
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: the school shooting day. You were so good in that,

824
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: MICHAELA like that made the most sense because the weight

825
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 2: that you carry when you're writing nonfiction, every single sentence

826
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: has to be the truth. And I loved what you

827
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: did with that. I think that's why it takes me

828
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: like five years to write books. I'm another one coming

829
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: out in October, and it was just so hard to

830
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: write another one because it was like I already bled

831
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: all over the dance floor. Do I want to do

832
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: it again? And that speech nailed it. That's the feeling

833
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: like you want to get it right for everybody. Yeah,

834
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: you crushed that.

835
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was really beautiful.

836
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: When are you going to write a book?

837
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: Me? Yeah, I don't know. I hope someday. I was

838
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: very inspired by by that. I don't it's so brave

839
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: to put yourself out there in that way, and I

840
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know. We'll see. What about What

841
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: about you guys, Sophia Joy, do you do you have

842
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 3: that sort of interest in writing? I know you're both

843
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: brilliant women with so many stories to tell.

844
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I do for sure. I mean I think

845
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: the ADHD has made it really difficult over the years

846
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: to I have lots of essays, I have lots of

847
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: chapters and things, but to really commit to putting it

848
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: all together, because I would love to write about my experience.

849
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: You know, I was in a cult for ten years, Like,

850
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: I would love that that would be a really valuable

851
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: experience to write about.

852
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: And the.

853
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: Recovery that, you know, ten years of recovery after that.

854
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: So it's there's a lot to tell. But yeah, the

855
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: pressure of getting it right and everything having to be

856
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: exactly real and all the people that are involved, and

857
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: also like I I don't know how much I can

858
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: say because there are still people and legal things in

859
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: place that are make it more complicated for the timing

860
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah. So but I do write. I mean

861
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I write all the time. I've got I have to

862
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: write projects that I'm working on. Yeah, I write songs. Yeah,

863
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: there's there's some things in the works, there's some projects

864
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: coming out.

865
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: Writing everything in code, You're like, if I sing it,

866
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: then it's just a song and I can say what I.

867
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: Want, which I have done.

868
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the songwriting of it all I guess such a

869
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: cool you know outlet. It's interesting because, you know, in

870
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: a similar way that you did in grad school, Like

871
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: I left my BFA program with fourteen actors in it

872
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 4: because I didn't feel fulfilled, and I transferred into the

873
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: journalism school at USC and I was an Annenberg student

874
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: for the next couple of years before.

875
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 6: I went to work in North Carolina.

876
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: And you know, I've written op eds and articles, and

877
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: I've been approached by a lot of people who are

878
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: like these things that you write, and like the essays

879
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 4: essentially that you write about, like the world that sometimes

880
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: even you just publish on Instagram and long form or whatever,

881
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: like this.

882
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: Is all a book.

883
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: But I think similarly for me, there's a lot of

884
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: pressure of how to collect and order things, like, you know,

885
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: the way my brain is wired to like be I

886
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: like repel stress and planning in a way that is

887
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 4: not super helpful. Thank god, I'm married person who's very

888
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: good at planning, like we.

889
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 6: We yin yang really well.

890
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 4: I am a you know, responder in the best sort

891
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 4: of sense of the words. So like in the moment

892
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: something strikes me and I say something or work on something,

893
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: and then it's there so the long form of a

894
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: book feels hard.

895
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 5: You know.

896
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 4: I've I've had people on my team literally like chasing

897
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: me with a book proposal for five years, and I'm like,

898
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: I don't feel ready, And I think what I'm learning

899
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 4: in this, you know, sort of stage of my life,

900
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: like being a person who's been in like active recovery

901
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 4: and therapy for PTSD for years.

902
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: Is.

903
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: Realizing that some of what feels really hard about the

904
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: idea of potentially writing a book is the people that

905
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: I would have to talk about. Yeah, and like that

906
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 4: feels really dangerous. And the unfortunate thing is, as you know,

907
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 4: and we've all experienced this, but like as a woman

908
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: and on our show, I certainly went through this, like

909
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: something can be done to you and you still globally

910
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: get made out to be the one at fault. Yeah,

911
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: And it's incredibly difficult, and I just don't know. I

912
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: haven't really weighed like what's worth it in terms of

913
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 4: do I think there's important stories to tell and lessons

914
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: and you know, modalities of recovery that would be really

915
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: beautiful to put on a page.

916
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 6: Yes, And like.

917
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 4: Do I want to continue getting dragged for having survived

918
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: something that happened to me in my early twenties and

919
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: something that happened to me in my thirties, Like I

920
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: don't know, it sucks to sort of go through that,

921
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: like women don't get the Lucas Scott treatment.

922
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Now that you guys are talking about all of this,

923
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: like that's the theme of the episode, it is pointed

924
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: that we go back to the scene of the school

925
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: shooting where Peyton is bleeding out and you know, Jimmy

926
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: and Keith died just in at hallway that we see

927
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the episode. To revisit trauma, to

928
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: write about it is to revisit it, and to read

929
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: about it is to revisit it. And so there's no

930
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: moving forward for this group of women until we revisit

931
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: the trauma. And that sucks. But but we've got this

932
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: little like elf named Mia that's like, come on, take

933
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: me on the journey. And then not only do we

934
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: have to do it for I mean, we have to

935
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: talk about the Brooke Andctorious stuff because that was just

936
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: so fucking awesome. Hayley doesn't know she's going to have

937
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: to do it with the nanny Carey stuff, but it's coming.

938
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Peyton's obviously doing it, and then Lindsay gets brought into

939
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: it by having to talk about her trauma. Yeah, you know,

940
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: is that something that makes us like each other? Is

941
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: it that we all have to just like cut ourselves

942
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: open for us to like connect?

943
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: I think so. I think it's when you open yourself up.

944
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: I think that's for life, When you reveal truly your

945
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 3: your deepest vulnerability, you're like your deepest self. I think

946
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: that's when you can then connect, right. I think that's

947
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: what happens between Peyton and Lindsay during this episode. It's

948
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 3: that moment where it just kind of blows up, but

949
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: it blows up in kind of a beautiful way because

950
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: we reveal so much about what we've been through. I mean,

951
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: I know what you've been through, but it's my character,

952
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: you know knows what you've been through.

953
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 7: But from the pages of a book. Yeah, different perspective.

954
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 7: Right to humanize someone. It's like so easy to dislike

955
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 7: somebody that you can sort of care acature rise in

956
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 7: your brain, but to actually see them opened up before

957
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 7: you with their wounds, it takes it to another level.

958
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 7: It's just you can't you can't compartmentalize people into that space.

959
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: Anymore.

960
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel like because Lindsay had all the

961
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 2: information and Peyton didn't like Lindsay having just lost her father,

962
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: had this expectation like, Oh, no, Peyton and I are

963
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: going to connect. We have so much in common, We

964
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: love the same boy, we both have parents that have

965
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: died from cancer. I like Tree Hill she lived in.

966
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: You know, like, there's so many things to connect on.

967
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: And what's interesting when you think you're going to be

968
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: friends with someone and then it doesn't work out, it

969
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: hurts so much worse.

970
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have to make a decision about that?

971
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: MICHAELA When you came in the I'm trying to remember

972
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: your first episode, did you know that Peyton was back

973
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: like or was it a shock or did you go

974
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: in like wanting to like her and expecting that or

975
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: did you have to make a decision about that?

976
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: I think it sounds so creepy, but it's like she

977
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: was so close to that book, right, editing it to

978
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: so deep in those pages and in those stories that

979
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: I think she really truly grew to love Peyton. But

980
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: it's what a confusing relationship to then be with this

981
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: guy and know all of.

982
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: This and oh that would hurt so bad.

983
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: So I'm sure there was just like an instant feeling

984
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 3: of insecurity and really wanting to connect, but feeling that.

985
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: Wall wall is a subtle way to put it, spiky wall.

986
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: It's like the spiky walls in Indiana Jones that are

987
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: just funny.

988
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 6: I was like to me, it feels like a O

989
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 6: with crocodiles in it.

990
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you know you're you're so in the

991
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: thick of our world. You know, you know everything about

992
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: our world. And then here comes Tim who is maybe

993
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: not someone that Lindsay doesn't necessarily like knew about.

994
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I doubt Lucas wrote about him.

995
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: He's not in the book.

996
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: Oh he's not in the book. He's so great in

997
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: this episode.

998
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 6: Breh is so funny, but he broke my heart in

999
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 6: the end.

1000
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: That look, that one look. I mean, he is so talented,

1001
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: the fact that he could be making a joke and

1002
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: then in one second just turn his head and look

1003
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: at you and say, nobody hangs out anymore, or nobody

1004
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: comes back to I don't even know what he said

1005
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: he was gonna touch anymore. Yes's looking at his eyes

1006
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: and made me really emotional.

1007
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 4: And the spectrum he takes us on to you know,

1008
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: the depth of that moment, and then the pure gorgeous

1009
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: comedy of him being in the coming in the door

1010
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: and me trying to run him and him picking me up.

1011
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good to see you and hugging me, brilliant.

1012
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: I was shrieking laughing. That was so funny, And I

1013
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: remember it like I could feel it in my body.

1014
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 4: I remember him putting his arms around me and picking

1015
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: me up and just flailing my arms and legs like

1016
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 4: trying to get away from him, and and really having

1017
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 4: to not break to not like screw up the scene.

1018
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: You wanted to not laugh, right, I wanted to laugh

1019
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: so bad.

1020
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 6: It was so funny. He really, he really crushed it.

1021
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when you're like, no one's eating me and

1022
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: he's like well, and you're just like no, no, no, no.

1023
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: I love that.

1024
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: But I also love meeting people from my partners past,

1025
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: like that's that's fun to be like, Yeah, you went

1026
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: to school with this guy. Hmmm interesting. Interesting, I'd like

1027
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: to know more about this situation. Yeah, yeah, did you

1028
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: ever go back to your husband's hometown? Where's Where's Mike from?

1029
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 3: Okayla, Mike is kind of from all over. He's moved

1030
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: around a ton. So both of his parents are actors

1031
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: and ended up teaching acting. Oh cool, they moved around

1032
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: a ton. They're regional theater actors, so they were.

1033
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: So that's why he doesn't hate actors.

1034
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: Very much. Understands the world what a prince lovely way.

1035
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: But yes, Florida and Texas and Massachusetts and Ohio, and

1036
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: his parents finally were like, Okay, we need some like

1037
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: consistency in our lives. We have three young boys. So

1038
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: they they went to school and taught and ended up

1039
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: teaching at Western Michigan. Oh, right on in the theater department. Yeah,

1040
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: so they're like acting teachers. So so Mike fully he

1041
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: started as an actor. There's a shot floating around though, Oh.

1042
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: A head and shot all, Oh my god, have you

1043
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: taken him back to your hometown?

1044
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, for sure. He's been to Rhode Island

1045
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: a bunch. Yeah yeah, yeah.

1046
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: Did you take him to like a football game?

1047
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: You know? I wasn't so much like I was such

1048
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 3: an artsy kid in high school. It's such a wallflower

1049
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: and a late bloomer. I mean, what drew me to

1050
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: theater was because I was so shy that it was

1051
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: acting that allowed me to finally like let go of

1052
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: my inhibitions. And you know, it's like, it's so funny.

1053
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: It's sort of a misconception that all actors are just.

1054
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: Like these loud, like charismatic Yeah, that was not me.

1055
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just going to hide back here

1056
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 3: and hopefully nobody will see me. But when I was acting,

1057
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: it was freedom, you know. Yeah, that's what That's how

1058
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: I got pulled into it.

1059
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome. Oh I love that about Mike. I

1060
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: didn't know that.

1061
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little all over, which it also helped

1062
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: me with this business where you just never know what's

1063
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: around any corner.

1064
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: You never know.

1065
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: I grew up in the same place. There was just

1066
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: like the security and the safety of that throughout my childhood.

1067
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: And Mike moved around so much that it has given

1068
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: me a lot of peace with my kids and moving

1069
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: and like, you know, when we went to do The

1070
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: Village and we just like uprooted and we're like, Okay,

1071
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: we're gonna hunker down in Brooklyn. Yeah, even with that

1072
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: pilot I shot last summer, because you never know, right,

1073
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: you never know. Yeah, and I'm moving to New Mexico,

1074
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: and I have to like just bring my kids down

1075
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: there and do that. But seeing Mike and seeing who

1076
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: he is as a person, I'm like, Okay, it's gonna be.

1077
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay that right, Yeah, they're gonna be fine.

1078
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: They'll learn so much.

1079
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: So what was your backstory for Lindsay though, because you know,

1080
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: again she knows everything about all of us. The show

1081
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: takes place in our world. Did you have to balance

1082
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: that and be like, Okay, well, who's this chick? I

1083
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: think we all like leaned on our real life experiences.

1084
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: There's so much Sophia and Brooke and Joy and Haley

1085
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: and obviously you know, I'm a nightmare too, Like Peyton,

1086
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: what did you set up for Lindsay as you started

1087
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: to flesh her out, especially in this episode with all

1088
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: the talk about your dad.

1089
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it starts to really get interesting because you

1090
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: learn a lot more about Lindsay in this episode in

1091
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: that moment. Up to this point, you don't really know,

1092
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: right yeah, yeah, or what her deal is, and and

1093
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: it was all such a new experience. Again, I'm like,

1094
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to figure out what the tape on

1095
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: the floor is about, trying to it was so much

1096
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: to put together and every script are getting like these

1097
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: little pieces of information to kind of inform you of

1098
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: like who this person is. This was the first episode

1099
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: where we really got to crack into what she's been

1100
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: through and that trauma that and maybe why like how

1101
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: she's still grieving and still dealing with it and hasn't

1102
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: fully dealt with it. I mean, I don't know that

1103
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: you can fully deal with something like that, right, Like

1104
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: it's always going to be there. And obviously this relationship

1105
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: with her father was so close and so painful to

1106
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: lose him in such a brutal way, right, So it's

1107
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: like that kind of informed me of when it had

1108
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: to go into that kind of nasty below the belt stuff.

1109
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: It was like, she's really coming from a place of

1110
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: deep pain, right, And like here's this guy that is

1111
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: like I need this guy, I need this relationship.

1112
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 8: You two are trauma bonded, just like Lucas and Paydon.

1113
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 8: Why does this dude show up every time someone's parent dies.

1114
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 8: That's messed up, man boy, It's deja vuie.

1115
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I just got like goose pimples from my

1116
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: arm because I was like, wait a second, this is

1117
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: all ringing a bell as you're telling me this story.

1118
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, that does sound familiar. I do

1119
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: need that guy because he came in like Superman when

1120
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: I was at my lowest.

1121
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, the stakes are so high, like I'm going to

1122
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: lose this person that I can't lose this person. I

1123
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 3: lost that person. I cannot lose this. Yeah.

1124
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh I hate this. The layer of guilt right

1125
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: now is so thick. Hate it. I did like that

1126
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: we got drunker and drunker as the episode went on.

1127
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember having to play that trying to

1128
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: remember like what scenes we had been drinking and which

1129
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: scenes we hadn't. Were we just drinking in real life

1130
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: at this point? Are there just water bottles full of

1131
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: vodka on set?

1132
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 6: I remember it was Audacious his moonshine.

1133
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: Oh it's Halloween.

1134
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: We're all like, can we get out? Can we wrap

1135
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: so we can go?

1136
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1137
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about that. Yes, there was no part

1138
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Hillary, you must have been dying to get

1139
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: out of there because you probably had a huge party waiting.

1140
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: No, this was the first year I didn't throw a

1141
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: party because I was just Oh, everything at work was

1142
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: shitty and I was just like I'm throwing mad now

1143
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: now you made me mad and our boss was in town.

1144
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: There was no way I was throwing a party.

1145
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, gross, but there is. There is like such

1146
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: a weird technical thing of that, like when Peyton brings

1147
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: Brooke the bottle of liquor she finds. You know, I'm

1148
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: sitting there like reading the magazine in the in the

1149
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: stacks of books, like to figure out, okay, if we

1150
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 4: start drinking and seeing seven, how drunk is everyone in

1151
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 4: every scene because we.

1152
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Shoot all the scenes out of order? Yeah, that is

1153
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: such a mental thing to descript. Is supposed to keep

1154
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: track of that for us? And I don't remember if

1155
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if it was Mike Leon, I'm sure he

1156
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: was so hard. How weird was that conversation about cannibalism?

1157
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: Ew? What the heck?

1158
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: Like they ran out a runway. They just couldn't figure

1159
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: out what to write anymore. They ran out I have

1160
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: in caps?

1161
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 4: Why are we having a cannibal conversation? Now it's ghosts.

1162
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: Now it's Jimmy and Keith, like again the whiplash. Yeah,

1163
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: I would make jerky out of their love handles. Mikayla,

1164
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 4: you deserve.

1165
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 2: An award for that. How did you deliver that line?

1166
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

1167
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: My god, good snack on that.

1168
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 6: For days. I was like, give on trophy, give her

1169
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 6: something so weird.

1170
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: And then the joke about like the vampire, it just

1171
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 3: kept going yes for your neck, and I was like,

1172
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: are we.

1173
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: Still we're still talking about this?

1174
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: Well?

1175
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 4: Also when you were like when you said the next

1176
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 4: thing to me, I was like, are.

1177
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: We gonna kiss? Like, what's happening? What is going on?

1178
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: What happens in the library stays in the library.

1179
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: There was just like a lot of weird sexual energy

1180
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: and a cannibal talk, and I was like, this makes

1181
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 4: me feel very uncomfortable.

1182
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: No, that was weird. I loved I loved the Brook

1183
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: Payton stuff in this episode because true friendship is when

1184
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: your friends made an ass of themselves and you still

1185
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: sit with them. And the fact that Brook stuck by

1186
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: Peyton even after she went real dark. She didn't have

1187
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: to say anything. She didn't accept the behavior. It was like, no,

1188
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: you're awful, You've duh hard. I'm still gonna go sit

1189
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: over here in this stack of books with you, and

1190
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to leave you alone.

1191
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna make sure you're okay.

1192
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1193
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I liked too that we got to have

1194
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 4: a bit of an arc because much like Lindsay gets

1195
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 4: to express that she knows and wants to meet the

1196
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: Peyton from the book, Brooke is best friends with Peyton

1197
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 4: from the book and says, I don't know you to

1198
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 4: be this person, like.

1199
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: I know you to take the high road.

1200
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 4: So that later when Lindsay is talking about Peyton's morality

1201
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: and her noble nature. It's very cool that it tracks

1202
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 4: from Peyton's oldest friend to the newest woman in her life, who,

1203
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 4: all in their own way get to say, like.

1204
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: What are you doing, buddy, don't be messy, don't be messy.

1205
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: Well, I also love that Brooke finally got to voice

1206
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: all this stuff about her mom. That was so great,

1207
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: And it was so uncomfortable to watch everyone pushing you

1208
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: and pushing you and pushing you, and you just kind

1209
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: of standing firm and like, listen, this is my choice.

1210
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm choosing this because, yeah, for all the reasons that

1211
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: you explain, I'm sweet.

1212
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1213
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 4: Well, I liked to being able to express her needs

1214
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: and say, even if it's for the wrong reasons, I

1215
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 4: don't want to lose it. And the thing that really

1216
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 4: hit me that I didn't remember the verbiage of it

1217
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 4: and hearing it back like absolutely broke my heart? Is

1218
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 4: that what I had to say as broke was I

1219
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 4: wanted to be seen by my mom and maybe loved

1220
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 4: ough that wrecked me.

1221
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: Like if she can see me, then I have a chance.

1222
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: I can take it or leave it on the love

1223
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 4: And it's like, oh my god, that's so that just

1224
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 4: hurts man. And to be able to get into it

1225
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 4: and to see the bigger depth of how tied to

1226
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 4: her mom she feels now and how scared she is

1227
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 4: that maybe without her mom she wouldn't have made it

1228
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 4: like it's you. You really get to see the layers

1229
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,959
Speaker 4: in this episode, and that felt really nice.

1230
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: Well yeah, it almost makes up for the cannibalism talk.

1231
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's it. How did two things live

1232
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: in the same episode?

1233
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was foreshadowing for the heart falling out

1234
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: of the you know cooler and the dog eating.

1235
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, so we have to end with that.

1236
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: So do you guys remember when we would get made

1237
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: fun of on the soup? Yeah, MICHAELA, were you ever

1238
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: the target? I've been the target many a time.

1239
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 3: I feel like it was. I was definitely in some

1240
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: episodes that got hit on the I can't believe.

1241
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: The fake music video at the end of this episode

1242
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: wasn't on the soup. It might have been on the soup.

1243
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: The whole speech that they give about Yeah, people on

1244
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: the internet are people who can't create anything. I'm so

1245
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: glad you brought this up.

1246
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm dying the internet's just for porn and complaining.

1247
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you know what people do?

1248
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: Oh I can't. I can't. I knew exactly what it was.

1249
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: It was so transparent and so ridiculous.

1250
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was fun to watch back all

1251
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: these years later, like my guy, no, wow, no one's fooled.

1252
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: We know what you're saying here. Uh yeah, our show

1253
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: got made fun of, which was great press for us.

1254
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: What are we bitching about? Sure?

1255
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: Was you are years later with like legit like new

1256
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 3: fans that are watching.

1257
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, jump, I mean yah, that's amazing.

1258
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: Like the show that I would basically like learn how

1259
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 3: to do on camera acting would just like follow me.

1260
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: I did you don't think that the thing that you

1261
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: do at like twenty two to twenty three years old

1262
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: is gonna be the shit lives forever? Yeah, the legacy,

1263
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: it turns out it is yeah, you guys.

1264
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: To watch this. I really I bat onto you and

1265
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: like revisiting these episodes from so long ago, it's it's

1266
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: a head trip.

1267
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: Well, every every episode we pick our honorable mention. I

1268
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: think my honorable mention is the not so subtle internet shade.

1269
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: What was your honorable mention for the episode, Mikayla.

1270
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: There's a moment that that made me lol. And it

1271
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: was when Joy Hailey is like calling us both out

1272
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: because we're both having bad behavior and she's putting solitaire

1273
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 3: and your solitaire and you're like so aggressively. It made

1274
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 3: me laugh so hard. That was that, And and the

1275
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 3: whole pizza toppings and Sophia, Oh yeah, it was so funny.

1276
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 6: And no mushroom, mushal room that made me.

1277
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: Bret Claywell gets my honorable mention.

1278
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: He's good.

1279
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I would throw it to Brett as well.

1280
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: But I will also say, and maybe we've said it

1281
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 4: already this season then, and I just don't remember because

1282
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 4: it's the middle of the night. I'm delirious, but I

1283
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 4: got really excited when I got to be like I'm

1284
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: dying to see.

1285
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 6: Teacher Girls Classroom.

1286
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 4: I was like, we've gone from tutor girl to teacher girl.

1287
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 6: And I got so excited about that little draw and

1288
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 6: then I thought, have we said this before? I don't.

1289
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 6: I don't know, but if not, that would that would tie.

1290
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember it, No, I don't think so. I

1291
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: think that was the debut.

1292
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that.

1293
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 2: All right, ladies, let's spin our wheel. Every week we

1294
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: pick a most likely too Mikayla, and we have to

1295
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: pick a character that is most likely to do this thing,

1296
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: but also like a real life member of our our gang.

1297
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: All right, who is most likely to Elope in Vegas?

1298
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 2: Peyton and Lucas tried but it changed their mind. Yeah,

1299
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: so not us because we couldn't go through with it.

1300
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 2: Does anyone get super fast married on the show? Yeah?

1301
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably the answer, Nathan and Ali.

1302
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,520
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I think that that really tracks.

1303
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: You sure things, So what's the risk, right, Michaela, thank

1304
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: you so so much for hanging out with us for

1305
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: two full episodes.

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Speaker 3: Miss you. What a joy to be with you guys again,

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Speaker 3: this little reunion. This was so cool. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if anyone's mean to you on the internet,

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Speaker 2: just send them to us. We'll kick their ass. We'll

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Speaker 2: kick them in the digital shin, the digital shin. All right.

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Speaker 2: Next episode is season five, episode ten, running to stand Still.

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Speaker 2: I hope we can all get along in the sandbox.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Bye, Hey, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

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Speaker 4: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's ot.

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Speaker 2: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.

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Speaker 1: Were all about that high school drama Girl, Drama Girl,

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Speaker 1: all about them.

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Speaker 4: High school queens forever.

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Speaker 6: We'll take you for a ride and our comic girl

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Speaker 6: cheering for the right teams Drama Queens.

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Speaker 3: Raise my girl, lough.

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Speaker 2: Girl fashion with your tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 5: Girl Drama Queens, Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama Drama, Queens

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Speaker 5: Drama Queens