1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to Securing America with me, Frank Afney, the program 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: that's a kind of owner's manual for protecting the country 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: we love against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to the 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: glory of God and his Kingdom. We're going to be 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: talking about the state of the Kingdom here on earth. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: It is deeply troubled by a variety of factors. I'm 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: going to give you a little bit of a send 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: up before we get to our guest. I think we're 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: confronting as a nation a trifecta, if you will, a 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: totalitarian trifecta. It's obviously the Chinese Communist Party and its 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: friends foreign and domestic. It's the globalists, those operating under 12 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: the cover of the UN, the World Health Organization, the 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: World's Economic Forum, and the like. Not a few multinational 14 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: corporations who might want to be thought of as American 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: but aren't necessarily so. And then there's what I call 16 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: the Sharia supremacists, those who adhere to and want to 17 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: impose on the rest of us, the Islamic brutally repressive 18 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: totalitarian code known as Sharia. All of them are a threat. 19 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: They're currently working in concert against us, which makes the 20 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: threat all the more intense and why we must understand 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: what we're up against him do what we can to 22 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: counter it. For that purpose, I'm very pleased to welcome 23 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: back a dear friend and frankly a mentor to me 24 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: on these issues, as well as a comrade. In the 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: war for the free world. He is at its vanguard 26 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: really as a public intellectual and analyst. He actually splits 27 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: his time between a day job of venture capital in 28 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: the healthcare arena. He is an analyst and investor, quite 29 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: successful at that, but thanksfully, he is spending about half 30 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: of his time pro bono publico, as they say, for 31 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: the good of the public in the national security battle 32 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: space under the banner of saveth West dot org excuse 33 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: me dot com, an entity he created to help educate 34 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the rest of us and also in his role as 35 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: the Chairman of Citizens for National Security. His name is 36 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Kenneth Abramowitz. We're always glad to have him with us, 37 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: especially at a time such as this, and especially because 38 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: he's giving us a full hour of his time, for 39 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: which we are profoundly grateful. Ken. It's great to have 40 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: you back. Welcome once man more, my friend. 41 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: It's always great to be with you. 42 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. Now you have done some. 43 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: You said that I am your mentor, you are my mentor. 44 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: So we have a dual mentoring a relationship. 45 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: We have a mutual mentoring relationship and admiration as well. 46 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: I think. Let me ask you to start, if you 47 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: would please, by embellishing, as you inimitably do, in ways 48 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: that really help clarify. In fact, you use a color 49 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: coding system to elaborate on the general point that I 50 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: made a moment ago what we're up against. Walk us 51 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: through it, will walk us through it, please quickly, if 52 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: you would sure. 53 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: One of the things I learned early in my new 54 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: career of national security, actually since nine to eleven, I 55 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: dedicated half my time to the National Security For obvious reasons. 56 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: I realize you have to get people's attention quickly, and 57 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: attentions mans aren't so large anymore or long. So I 58 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: created the concept of not that I invented these colors, 59 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: but I just popularized the reds, the greens, and the blues. 60 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: The reds are traditional color for communists. Green is traditional 61 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: color for Islam, but I focus it on islam myths, 62 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: and there was people who try and impose Islam on 63 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: other people as a political movement rather than as a religion. 64 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: And the blues are the globalists color coded blue for 65 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: the United Nations colors. And now in those three categories, 66 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: there's all together. I've identified seventeen individual criminal organizations or countries. 67 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 2: But just to summarize, the rads would be China, Russia, 68 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: North Korea, Cuba of Venezuela, and Nicaragua, among others. The 69 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: greens would be Qatar and the Sunni side around on 70 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: the sea side, among others. And the blues would be 71 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, the drug cartels, 72 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: in certain social media companies. And together those three groups 73 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: of criminal organizations are working together to destroy democracy, also 74 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: known as Western civilization. And I call this war World 75 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: worth three, which is different from World War one and two. 76 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Just to conclude this my comment, World War one and 77 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: two were fought over there, so to speak. World War three, 78 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: to quote the Beatles, is here, there and everywhere. So 79 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: I don't distinguish between foreign and domestic enemies. They're all 80 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: inter related. Everything's interrelated with everything, and so that's the 81 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 2: key issue permeating my book, the multi front war, which 82 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 2: is the relationship of everything to everything. 83 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the multi front war. I'm very pleased to 84 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: say is about to come out in its fourth edition. 85 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: This is a really very important primer on the challenges 86 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: of our time, and I strongly commend it to you. 87 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: I believe, if my clock serves me properly, that was 88 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: the five minute rendering of this overview. I have been 89 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: with ken when he has done it in everything from 90 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: thirty seconds to a full hour format, and I'm very 91 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: pleased that we've got him for the latter because everything 92 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: you said, ken As always deserves further teasing out and amplification, 93 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and we're going to do that in the subsequent segraments. 94 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: But to just begin, I neglected to mention that we're 95 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: catching up with you in Israel. As it happens. I'm 96 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: delighted because you're able to give us a fresh assessment 97 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: from well literally the front lines of World War iie, 98 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: what is happening with Israel at the moment, at the 99 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: hands of several of those bad actors that you've talked about, 100 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: In fact, really all of them, I think, certainly the 101 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Sharia supremacist most obviously, but they're backed by the Chinese 102 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: and the communists around the world, and not least by 103 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: the globalists. So could you talk a little bit about 104 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: this war as it is playing out as we speak 105 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: in the front lines visibly be one of our most important, 106 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: arguably the most important ally we have the state of Israel. 107 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: I'll go step further. Israel is America's only ally. Everybody 108 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: else let's say ninety percent allies, fifty percent allies which 109 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: we call frenemies, ten percent allies, but Israel's one hundred 110 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: percent ally. And I can't think of another country that 111 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: I would call one hundred percent ally. In the interests 112 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: of American and Israel are interrelated. I can't think of 113 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: an issue that's in israel self interest that's not in 114 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: America's interest self interest, or vice versa. And so we're 115 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: basically married to each other through Judeo Christian religion, philosophy, 116 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: rule of law, mindset. In this relationship predates America. Judaism 117 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: is thirty eight hundred years old, Christian entity is two 118 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: thousand years old, the America is roughly four hundred years old. 119 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: The Official America is about two hundred and fifty years old. 120 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: But the wisdom of the Old Testament and the New 121 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Testament together combined and created the Constitution Bill of Rights 122 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: thanks to the brilliance of our founding fathers. And so 123 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: we're joined that the hip, but more than the hip, 124 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: we're as Siamese twins, and anything bad that happens to 125 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: one happens to the other. 126 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and most especially, and I thank you so much 127 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: for making this point. We have to take a brief 128 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: break here, but we'll come back to it. Israel's enemies 129 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: are our enemies. What they are doing to Israel at 130 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: the moment, they seek to do to us as well. 131 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: Kenneth Bramowitz is in the house. Ladies and gentlemen, strap in. 132 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: This is going to be a very important conversation going forward. 133 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: To be right back. 134 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: We're back as is Kenneth Bramowitz, I'm delighted to say, 135 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: the author of the multi Front War and the driving 136 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: force behind a terrific online resource, Savethwest dot com. He 137 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: is also leading a valiant group called Citizens for National 138 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Security based out in Flora. Ken you are in Israel 139 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: at the moment. You have a front row seat in 140 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: the front lines of this multifront war. I call it 141 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: the war for the Free World. But whatever appellation you 142 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: give it, it is very much on Israel's shoulders at 143 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: the moment to fight it. Talk about multifront wars by 144 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I've lost count of how many fronts Israel's got, seven, eight, nine. 145 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Give us the perspective from Israel, maybe starting with the 146 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: thing that precipitated the most immediate of these conflicts, namely 147 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the horrific, murderous jihadist attack by Hamas against Israel on 148 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: the seventh of October twenty twenty three. 149 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: Well, when I talk about World War three, the obvious 150 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: question someone could ask me is, well, if we're in 151 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: World War three, when did it begin? Well, there's ten 152 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: days you could have picked to say that World War 153 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: three began on that day. But to let's focus on 154 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: the issue of the day. You could say October seventh 155 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three was the beginning of World's War three. Now, 156 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: by the way, I don't want to digress from too much, 157 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: but you could say twenty fourteen was the beginning of 158 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: World War three when Russia attacked Ukraine and Europe did 159 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: almost nothing. And you could say nine to eleven was 160 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: the beginning of World War three. And we did respond 161 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: to that, but not effectively. We fought the war over there, 162 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: but not here, So we did not understand the war. 163 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: But anyways, in many different days you could pick as 164 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: the beginning of World War three. But let's just pretend 165 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: that October seventh was the beginning of World War three, 166 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: and Israel was attacked by Kamas, obviously, and Caamas massacred 167 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: twelve hundred Israelis and took two hundred and fifty one hostages. Now, 168 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: Camas would have killed everyone in Israel if they could, 169 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: and they were on their way to doing it, but 170 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: they they were stopped within a few hours. Actually, not 171 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: by the IDF and not by the government. They were 172 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: stopped by we the people. Not me, but we, the 173 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: Israeli people basically came out of the woodwork from two 174 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: three hours away, drove in their cars as fast as 175 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: you can drive in a car, and ran right into 176 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: the line of fire. Not they weren't called up. They 177 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: didn't know who they were fired gonna fire at, or 178 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: who was firing at them. They just ran into the 179 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: line of fire and saved the country. Now, a day later, 180 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: the army got attacked together, the government got attacked together. 181 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: But that one vital day was like out of the 182 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: American history books. We the people saved America in the 183 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: War of independence, and we, the people of Israel, saved Israel. 184 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: So both countries are inherent. 185 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: Least such an important point. And you're right, it's not 186 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: well understood, and the I guess partly because the post 187 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: mortem on what happened that day has not been fully 188 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: debated disclosed. Even I think they're as well as here. 189 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: But the point you making is it is emblematic of 190 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: the people of Israel that they would march to the 191 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: sound of the guns, not in the other direction, and 192 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: thank God that they did. So where are we with 193 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: the fight with the remnants of Hamas at the moment? 194 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: As you see it? Ken is Israel the offensive. I'm 195 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: told there are now five divisions operating in Gaza, and 196 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: that you know they're inexorably mopping up what's left of Hamas, 197 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: having decimated its leadership and so on. How do you 198 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: see the state of the conflict there? And is a 199 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: decisive victory and prospect at last? 200 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Yes, let me just spend one minute transitioning from your 201 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: previous question to this question. Hamas is part of the 202 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: Mason Brotherhood. Mason Brotherhood is sponsored by Qatar in Turkey. 203 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Now they get arms from Russia and China, and they 204 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: get political cover from the United Nations, So that's why 205 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to ex think that's why I call it 206 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: a world war because it's not just. And by the way, 207 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: Israel gets two thirds of its weapons from America, so 208 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: it's not just little Israel fighting with little Kamas. Behind them. 209 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Are all the great powers you can think of, and 210 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: that's why I call it World War three. 211 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: Now, can I just ask you to pause on that 212 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: quiz just to clarify. Are you saying that, despite the 213 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: fact that the tunnels from Egypt into Gaza have been 214 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: exposed and in most cases I think at least to 215 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: shut down, that Russia and China are still getting arms 216 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: into Hamas at this point, or is that in the 217 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: previous situation. 218 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: Yes, well, the arms were in the previous situation. I 219 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: don't think anyone's getting arms into gods anymore now that 220 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Israel has taken control over the borders, but China. 221 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: And I'm asking in part because one of our previous guests, 222 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: pastor excuse me, Rabbi Pessakwalliki, says that there may be, 223 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, some small tunnels that are still open and 224 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: are still getting stuff in. But I just was wondering 225 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about a massive infusion of those arms. 226 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: It sounds that's not the case, thank god. 227 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll guess ninety six percent of the arms are 228 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: not getting in anymore. Yes, they can be some ships 229 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: that sometimes there's drones from Egypt that send some guns 230 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: and whatnot. Sure, you can't do anything one hundred percent. 231 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: But my bigger point was that Iran is getting weapons, 232 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: obviously from China and Russia. Egypt, by the way, so 233 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: in effect declared war on Israel and broke the treaty 234 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: that Israel signed with them over forty years ago, gave 235 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: up the Sinai in return for it, and America supplies 236 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: Egypt with weapons. 237 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: So and what are you referring to there? Is this 238 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: the the remilitarization of the Sinai by Egypt or are 239 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: you talking about the tunnels? 240 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: The tunnels so Egypt had I don't know how many 241 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: delicious pretend one hundred tunnels from the Sinai into Gaza. 242 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: The American CIA had to have known that did nothing. 243 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: America supplies Egypt with a couple billion dollars of resources 244 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: every year, could have said something, said nothing. 245 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: And including most advanced arms. 246 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: I think yes, yes, And you have the Biden administration 247 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: allowed something like one hundred billion dollars of sanctioned relief 248 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: for Iran, which you to supply Kamas and all their 249 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: other proxies. So everybody has their fingers in this pie. 250 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: But guess who's doing ninety two percent of the fighting? Okay? 251 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: We have all these countries involved, every bad guy in 252 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: good guys like America to and you have Europe providing 253 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 2: cover for Kamas through the United Nations. So you have 254 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: everybody involved with their fingers in the pie, most of 255 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: them on the wrong side. And little Israel, with ten 256 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: million people eight million Jews, is doing ninety five percent 257 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: of the fighting to save two and a half billion Christians, 258 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: two billion Moslims, a billion two point two Hindus and 259 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: is getting criticized from everybody for doing ninety five percent 260 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: of the heavy lifting to save civilization. So you know 261 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: you can't make this stuff. 262 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: Uh, because I think you know you've very helpfully brought 263 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: this back to what's on the line. Ken. It is 264 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: Judeo Christian civilization, make no mistake about it. And this 265 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: is why to your other point, it is our war 266 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: that Israel is fighting as well as hers and she 267 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: needs our strong support, and I want to explore with 268 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: you whether that's what's forthcoming at the moment or not. 269 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: On the other side of this very short break, KENNETHI 270 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: Bramowitz have Savedthwest dot Com. 271 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 272 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: We're back, and so is Kenneth I Bramowitz. I'm delighted 273 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: to say for this hour very important conversation with a 274 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: very important thought leader on the nature of the well 275 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: he calls it multi front war, we're in World War three. 276 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: I've come to call it World War GI because I 277 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: think he's playing an outsize role in a lot of this. 278 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: But we'll get to that and Doe course, But Ken 279 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: I did want to just tie back to this point 280 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: that you've made now several times that Western civilization, Judeo 281 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Christian civilization, is on the line. Israel seems to be 282 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: doing the vast ponderance of the pushback against its enemies. 283 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: It is doing so in Gaza and has been embroiled 284 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: in that conflict since that faithful day October seventh, twenty 285 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: twenty three. It has also been hamstrung at various points 286 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: by notably the Biden administration. To a lesser degree I 287 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: think certainly. The Trump administration, though it has been seeking 288 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: at various stages cease fires between Hamas and Israel, which 289 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: I think could only have the effect of saving Hamas. 290 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: So this brings back the question I put to you 291 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: a moment ago. We hear that Israel is set on 292 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: finishing the job in Gaza at last. Do you think 293 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: that's in prospect? And if so, how much longer is 294 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: it likely to take? Do you think? 295 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: Well? Israel has publicly announced that it's control of forty 296 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 2: to fifty percent of Gaza and expects to be in 297 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: control of seventy five percent of Gaza within two months, 298 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: So I'll take them at their work. Then now the 299 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: question is what about the other twenty five percent of Gaza? 300 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: What does Israel want to do? Chomp has publicly said 301 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: is or America should take over one hundred percent of 302 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: Gaza and push the roughly one point eight million Ghazan 303 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: population out the Certainly, Israel has in effect said they're 304 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: going to move the Gazan population to the remaining twenty 305 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: five percent, and they're debating what to do. Some people 306 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: think they should just move everybody out because everybody's been 307 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: poisoned by the Khman's Death Cult and has become either 308 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: official or unofficial members of the Khama's Death Cult, which 309 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: again is financed by the Mahsim Brotherhood death Cult in 310 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: the Iranian death Cult. So we have two out of 311 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: control death cults in the Middle East and in the world. 312 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: The Katari Mahsim Brotherhood death cult I call it a 313 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: cultural death cult, in the Iranian physical death cult around 314 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: just wants to kill everyone. Katar wants to take over 315 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: the culture and kill the culture, not necessarily the people. 316 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: So so now. 317 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: But they're not beyond killing the people too. Certainly, the 318 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: people that they financed are all about that, aren't they. 319 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, if you get in the way or 320 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: you argue too much, yeah, sure, they're. 321 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: A You're not DIMIs submitting in. 322 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: As you call it, you could as you've called it, 323 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: pre violent organization that will use violence when they have to, 324 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: but they prefer to take over culturally run which also 325 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: is involved in cultural terrorism, prefers to just kill people. 326 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: So so little Israel is in the middle of this mess. Now. 327 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: By the way, we were talking about October three, October seventh, 328 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: rather October seventh was World War three for America. Just 329 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: America doesn't know that. Little Israel knows it by definition, 330 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: but Big America thinks that it's an Israel problem. And 331 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: my point is it's a Judeo Christian problem. But we've 332 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: discussed that already. So now the question is what happens 333 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: in the remaining twenty five percent of Gaza. There seems 334 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: to be a trend just in the last week or two, 335 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: maybe it started a week or two before that, of 336 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Israel arming the various clans in the Middle East. People 337 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: are part of clans or extended families more than they 338 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: are part of a country, and so these clans have 339 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: been around for long, long, long long time. Countries are 340 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: relatively new phenomenon. So Israel seems to be arming some 341 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: of these clans, and who are Israel then providing food? 342 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: Sorry, I just have to clarify something you said. The 343 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: country is a relatively new phenomenon. Which country are you 344 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: talking about? 345 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: Most countries are a new phenomenon in the last hundred 346 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: years or the last two hundred years. 347 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes Israel is a country that's a new phenomenon in 348 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: the contemporary sense. But there's not a country called Palestine, 349 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: is there. 350 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, there's not a country called Gaza, Jordan's either. I mean, 351 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: Egypt's been around for a few thousand years, but it 352 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: used to be a Christian country and then the Mauslims 353 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: illegally invaded it and converted it to a Muslim country. 354 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: But I'm saying many of the people in the Middle 355 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: East identified with the clan that they're part of. They 356 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: don't wake up in the morning and say, oh, I'm sirih. 357 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: We wake up and say I'm an American. We don't say, oh, 358 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm part of the Brownwoodz clan and or the Gaffney clan. 359 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: You know we're Americans. But in the Middle East, virtually 360 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: everyone's tribal. So Israel has gone to some of those 361 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: tribes and it said, look, if you want to fight Kamas, 362 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: we'll provide you with some Russian weapons that we took 363 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: from Kamas and we'll give them to you. And if 364 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Kamas wants to steal your food, you shoot them. So 365 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a subcontracting. So and now 366 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: these clans they just. 367 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: It's a little bit sporty too, isn't it. You've got 368 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: to have confidence that those tribes are actually not aligned 369 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: with or at least willing to once again. 370 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: That's right. It's a gamble. It's a gamble. And if 371 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: it's around gamble, then the idea is going to go 372 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: in and kill the clans too. Okay, but they're at 373 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: least giving the klans a chance to save themselves from 374 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: the from Kamas, and they're only giving them guns. 375 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: And there are some who are looking to these these 376 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: clans as the the the the game that will be 377 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: played out after, of course Amas is finished off, right, 378 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: that maybe for emirates of some kind made up of them. 379 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: Right, So the Klan, well, the Emirates is clans. I 380 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: think it's seven or eight tribes that make up the Emirates. 381 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: And I hear they don't inter marry with each other 382 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: and they stick to themselves, but they don't kill each other. 383 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: They've learned how to live with each other. And so 384 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: now there's tents and temporary housing that they're putting up, 385 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: and so it may be the twenty five percent of well, 386 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 2: someone's providing it to these clans, let's say Israel, and 387 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: I'll just guess. And they're setting up the tents and 388 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: they're setting up these makeshift buildings that like a half tent, 389 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: half building and telling people move in here, will protect 390 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: you from comas. And so it could be that Israel 391 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: will allow twenty five percent of the one hundred percent 392 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: of the Gosens to live in twenty five percent of 393 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: God under strict Israeli a military control, and if they 394 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: want to live like human beings, they'll be allowed to 395 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: live like human beings. That seems to be the trend 396 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: right now within the Israel. 397 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: The complete demise of amass is still the object of 398 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: the exercise and is still being pursued now. 399 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: By Israel has to set an example to all future 400 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: death cults that if you come in and massacre twelve 401 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: hundred Israelis, one day, we will hunt you down and 402 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: kill you one by one by one until you're all 403 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: gone and no one ever ever remembers who you were. 404 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: So Israel has to set an example. It's not just 405 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: setting an example for Israel, is setting an example for everybody. 406 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: And that's why Israel's doing ninety five percent on the FUNDI. 407 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: You know, I say to myself, where are the Christians? Hello? 408 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: Why an't the French and the Germans and the Americas 409 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: everyone saying, oh, fly us into Gaza. We want to 410 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: kill Kamas because they declared war on Israel, which is 411 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: really war on us, and we want to fight together. 412 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: So Little Israel is doing the heavy lifting. And there's 413 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: a reason why Little Israel is doing the heavy lifting. 414 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, explain that if you would. But in the context 415 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: of Israel's preference to be doing the fighting itself rather 416 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: than have people who may not be up to the 417 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: job doing it, they very clearly are not asking for, 418 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: as they say, American boots on the ground. 419 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: Right, that's right, right. Israel, first on principle, doesn't want 420 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: anyone else helping Israel fight its direct battles. And Israel's 421 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: the only one capable of actually protecting itself. And Israel's 422 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: learned that subcontracting protection to the United Nations is self 423 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: defeating because the UN itself is part of a criminal 424 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: organization run by the bad guy. So Israel learns the 425 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: hard way, has to do everything itself. But I just 426 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: want to finish this point. Why it's Little Israel doing 427 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: what it's doing, And the answer is that little Israel. 428 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: Jews are the mother of Western civilization, the mother of democracy. 429 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: Everybody else is the aunts and uncles and nieces and nephews, 430 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: and as you know, in life, mothers behave differently than 431 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: ants and uncles, nieces and nephew and that's why Israel 432 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: is on a so to speak, a mission from God 433 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: to save Israel, which saves Christianity, which saves Western civilization. 434 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: You've, as usual, demonstrated your information warfare specialty by repeatedly 435 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: emphasizing the term little Israel. And it's hard to overstate 436 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: the importance of understanding that, Ken, so I really salute 437 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: you for making the point. You look at a map, 438 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: if the been the least, and it's hard to find 439 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: little Israel, let alone get a sense of its power 440 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: relative to the immense land mass that is controlled by 441 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: its enemies, some very expressly its enemies, others willing to 442 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: pile on if they think they can get away with it. Ken, 443 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: we are going to return and talk a little bit 444 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: about Iran on the other side of this short break. 445 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: The talk about mothers, the mother of most of the 446 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: problems Israel is currently facing, certainly the ones that are 447 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: trying to destroy it. That and much more with Kenneth 448 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: I Bramo, It's the author of the multi front board. 449 00:31:43,600 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Welcome back, and once again welcome to Ken Abramowitz. 450 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: The author of the Multi front War, the driving force 451 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: behind a terrific web resource Savethwest dot com. Ken I 452 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: wanted to pivot to the mother of speaking of mothers, 453 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: mother of this evil in the Middle East at the moment, 454 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: and much of the rest of the world for that matter, 455 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: and that would be the so called Islamic Republic of Iran, 456 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: the moulahocracy that has abused its own people and threatened 457 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: not just Israel's but ours as well for so many years. 458 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to just get your take on sort of 459 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: the nature of the regime there and whether honestly we 460 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: are calibrated properly on the imperative of terminating it in 461 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: response to the various threats that it continues to represent 462 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: and may become infinitely worse if it does in fact 463 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: acquire nuclear weapons. 464 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, sir, Well, we people who are good have 465 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: trouble understanding those people who are evil. And so first 466 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: let me define good and evil and explain why around 467 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: is evil. So there's many definitions are good, but let 468 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: me use my simple definition is anyone who believes in 469 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: the Ten Commandments. Jews and Christians believe in the Ten Commandments. 470 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: There's not even a question about it, and there was 471 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: a question thousands of years ago when this was introduced 472 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: to the world through Jews and then through Christians. Now 473 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: another definition of good and evil is good are people 474 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: or countries who believe in life, liberty and pursuit of 475 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: happiness for everyone, versus dictatorships who believe in life liberty 476 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: in pursuit of habits for ten percent the people, namely 477 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: the ten percent who support the dictator. So those are 478 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: two quick definitions, and Iran fails on both of them. 479 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: They do not believe in the Ten Commandments, They do 480 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: not believe in life, liver in pursuit of happiness for everybody. 481 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: In fact, I think they kill execute about one thousand 482 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: dissidents every year, and they're unelected or they're elected through 483 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: phony elections, and they're a dictatorship theocracy, and I call 484 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: them a death cult. And in fact, I think America 485 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: should designate them with the not as the State Department 486 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: does as the largest state sponsor of terrorism. I think 487 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: we should have a new definition from the State Department, 488 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: namely Islamic worldwide death cult. And Iran should be the 489 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: first member, so to speak, of this new designation, and 490 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 2: we should treat Iran like we treated Nazi Germany by 491 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: our parents and grandparents, but now we're dealing with Islamo Nazis, 492 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: so it's actually Nazis on steroids. The Nazis wanted to 493 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: kill all the Jews. Iran wants to kill Jews, Christians 494 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 2: and Hindus and then kill the Sunnis. So we're talking 495 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: about an uncontrollable death cult. In the history of people 496 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: like this or entities like this is they're only stopped 497 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: when they're stopped. They're not stopped by negotiation. Can you 498 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: imagine negotiating with Hitler in nineteen thirty nine, it actually 499 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: hit the negotiations embolden the dictatorship. So President Trump team 500 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 2: doesn't realize that he's emboldering emboldering Iran through these negotiations, 501 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: and they're never going to give up their nuclear weapons, 502 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: not give up their Richmond and not going to close down. 503 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: There's six hundred thousand worldwide terror organization, the largest terror 504 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: organization in the history of the world. 505 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: Speaking of their nuclear weapons program. I did just want 506 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: to run by you something because it's very unsettling. In 507 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: response to some exhortations along very much the lines that 508 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: you've just given us from Mark Levin. Recently, Tucker Carlson 509 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: opined that statements about these nuclear weapons being almost imminently 510 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: in the hands of the Iranians are familiar because the 511 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: same people have been this is a quote, because the 512 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: same people have been making the claim since at least 513 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. Quote, in other words, that the Iranians 514 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: are pursuing the bomb and working hard to get it. 515 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: He goes on to say it quote, it's a lie. 516 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: In fact, there is zero credible intelligence that suggests Iran 517 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: is anywhere near building a bomb or has plans to none. Now, 518 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: ken of promise, you are a serious student of these matters, 519 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: you track what is being said, not just by you know, 520 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: the government of the United States or by the Israeli 521 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: government under successive regimes about all of this. What actually 522 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: the government of Israel produced in terms of the secret 523 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: trove of nuclear documents out of the Iranian program itself. 524 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: A few years ago, but even more recently than all that, 525 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: we had the un those blue guys, the International Atomic 526 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: Energy Agency saying definitively in their view that there is 527 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: now enough enriched uranium in Iran to make a nuclear weapon. 528 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: So what is your informed opinion of what Tucker Carlson 529 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: is saying here, that we're all lying about this. 530 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: Well, the UN's agency watchdog Agency IAEA said that around 531 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: has closed the capability enough uranium to create ten nuclear weapons, 532 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: and we know they have long range ballistic missiles. The 533 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 2: whole satellite program is basically an ICBM pretending to be 534 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: a satellite, and now you just have to merge the 535 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: two and point them. Now, people tell me it takes 536 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: six to twelve months to do that. You have to 537 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 2: miniaturize the weapon, so there's some time. But President Trump's 538 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: team do not understand that America, and Tucker doesn't understand 539 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: America is that existential risk. Every day we wait because 540 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: they're not talking seriously, they're just talking to buy time. 541 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: And one day we can wake up and then now 542 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: as well, we have ten nokes. There are long range 543 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: ballistic missile systems. They're pointed at America, Europe and Israel obviously, 544 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 2: and uh and if someone doesn't take the sanctions off 545 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 2: next week, we're gonna fire one of them in one direction. 546 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: Have a nice day. 547 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: Well, incaly, they simply say, we've we've actually secreted one 548 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: of them into your country, and we. 549 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 2: Considered that a ship. 550 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: This is this is so important and I hate to 551 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: trunct it, but we have to take a short break. 552 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: When we come back. Well, tisa's out further and most 553 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: especially talk with Kennebramowitz about what the United States and 554 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: Israel must do about this mortal threat. Now, stay tuned, h. 555 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 556 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: We are talking with Kenneth Abramowitz of Serious Thinker on 557 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: matters of national security. He has suggested that what is 558 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: being said by Tucker Carlson about this nuclear threat from 559 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: Iran is not true. I strongly believe that, and I 560 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: wanted to talk with him a bit about if the 561 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: fact we're right, and it's not just us obviously, Now, 562 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: I think basically the world recognizes the Iranian Mullis are 563 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: intent on having nuclear weapons and almost certainly using them 564 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: as well. What do we do about it? So, Ken, 565 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: just one quick question. My understanding is that the so 566 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: called twelvers who are populating this molaocracy believe that armageddon 567 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: is required to usher in the golden age of Islam 568 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: by bringing out the Mandi from a well, this sounds 569 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 1: completely whacked. But if it's true, and if it's their 570 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: view that this is going to happen on their watch. 571 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 2: And the top guy. 572 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: I told Comedy has cancer. That watch may be very short, 573 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: This may be very much a threat of the moment. 574 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, sir, about what the United States 575 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: end Israel? Ideally, but at least Israel must do about 576 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: this threat. 577 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 2: Well, by the way, you'll notice that the Kama's death 578 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 2: cult did not surrender. The Huti i'm in death cult 579 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 2: did not surrender, the hisbal of death cult did not surrender. 580 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 2: These death cults they fight to Hitler did not surrender. 581 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 2: These death cults fight to the end. So now I 582 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 2: remember about twenty years ago, I had the honor of 583 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: listening to a speech by one of my big, big heroes, 584 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: your hero too, Michael Ledein sadly passed away a few 585 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 2: weeks ago. And he gave a speech and he put 586 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: on a slide a march in Tehran with people had 587 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 2: signs death to America, death to Israel. And he says 588 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: to the audience before he starts, he says, what do 589 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: you think they mean by these signs? And there was 590 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 2: a silence. He let the silence grow for about forty 591 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: five seconds, and he said, I think they mean death 592 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 2: to America and death to Israel. And then everyone started laughing. 593 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 2: And so that's what's going on. I mean, they tell 594 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: you what they want to do, and then we started laughing, 595 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 2: and this is no laughing matter. So he said at 596 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: that time, he said, he says, look, some people on 597 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: my panel think we should wait. Some people are thinking 598 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: more analysis. He said, Look, these people want to kill 599 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 2: everyone in America. Blow them up tonight. Hello, what are 600 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: you waiting for? You think we're smart enough to identify 601 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: the exact day that they're going to have a nuclear 602 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 2: weapon and we're going to blow them up the day before. 603 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: We can't take a chance with the future of America. 604 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 2: Send the planes tonight. So I remember that impassioned speech 605 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 2: of his as if it was yesterday. Yeah, and he 606 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: had the story. He had it right on a bipartisan basis. 607 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: Our government didn't protect us. And remember, as you well know, 608 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: our government has to protect our life libery in pursuita happens, 609 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 2: and it didn't do it. Now Trump is stuck holding 610 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 2: the bag and Natanie who's stuck holding the bag? And 611 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: they better protect us. That's their obligation. 612 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: So what does that look like, ken in practical terms, 613 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: if they're to protect us. Is it sufficient to hope 614 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: that we'll get some sort of negotiation out of this 615 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: process being led by Steve Whitcoff, one of the friends 616 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: of Trump who's been empowered to negotiate for him. Is 617 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: it sufficient to send bombers in but try to hit 618 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons sites that have been both hidden and deeply buried, 619 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: or is there another thing that must be done? 620 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: Do you think? So go back three months or so. 621 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: President Trump publicly said I'm going to give around two 622 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: months to negotiate a deal. I think we're now in 623 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: the third month in the Middle East. When you threaten 624 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 2: somebody and say I give you two months to make 625 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: a decision, you can't move the red line. You become 626 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 2: a laughing stock if you do that. So Trump should 627 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: go back to what he had said before and said, 628 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm putting words in his mouth. I'm going to give 629 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 2: you a two week deadline. I want you to commit 630 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: to dismantling your nuclear program, dismantling your enrichment program, and 631 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: I want you to fire six hundred thousand worldwide terrorists 632 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: because we're not going to release have sanctioned relief so 633 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: you can finance six hundred thousand worldwide terrorists, and you 634 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 2: got two weeks to do it. Have a nice day. 635 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: Here's my phone number, and if nothing happens in two weeks, 636 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: he should send the airplanes. Now, President Trump doesn't want 637 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 2: to send the airplanes. He's publicly said that, so I 638 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: think he should just nod to Israel and let the 639 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: mother of Western civilization save Western civilization and have Israel 640 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 2: do one hundred or ninety or eighty percent of the bombing, 641 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: and if America is needed for certain sites, Israel can 642 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: call America and maybe Trump will join in. But I 643 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: think Israel's going to do eighty ninety one hundred percent 644 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 2: of the heavy lifting with American weapons, So America will 645 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 2: be indirectly doing the heavy lifting, but actually taking the 646 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: chances and the risks and all that heavy lifting. America's 647 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 2: basically going to do it and save Western civilization at 648 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: the same time. And I expect this to happen before 649 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 2: the year's over. I think this is the last year 650 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: of the Iranian death cult. 651 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: Well, from your lips to God's ears, as they say. 652 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm disagreeing with you, but 653 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: I personally believe very strongly that this is the moment 654 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: of truth that Israel must step up to defend itself 655 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: and in so doing will defend us. But that it 656 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 1: must do so, can I personally believe not by trying 657 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: to neutralize all of these very hard targets, some of 658 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: them not even known, perhaps these nuclear facilities that the 659 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: Iranians have beavered away to build en mass, but to 660 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: do the thing that is relatively straightforward, which is to 661 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: take down the Iranian revolutionary ardcore, which is the instrument 662 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: by which those Mullahs remain in power. And I think 663 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: that the people of Iran are ready to step in, 664 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: as much as you said about the Israeli people in Gaza, 665 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: to step in to save their country and to prevent 666 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: it from becoming the source of armageddon perhaps for the 667 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: rest of the world. I pray for all of this, 668 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: and I thank you Kennebramowitz for your insights, for your leadership, 669 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: for the great work that you do it Savethwest dot 670 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: com check out his book, Folks, The Multi Front War, 671 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: now coming out in its fourth edition. God speed, my friend, 672 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: stay well in Israel. Come back to us soon. I 673 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: hope the rest of you will do the same next time. 674 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 1: Until then, go forth, and multiply