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Speaker 6: Absolutely, So we're still waiting to hear an update on
Speaker 6: the situation with Jordan Lewis with his elbow. Like I said,
Speaker 6: I talked to Jordan after the game on Sunday and
Speaker 6: he told me that he has full mobility. He was
Speaker 6: just waiting to get some MRI results done. And that's
Speaker 6: you know, we're still waiting to see what that is.
Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence the Cowboys, it doesn't sound like they're going
Speaker 6: to activate his twenty one day window for practice this
Speaker 6: week either. And as we go into this game, which
Speaker 6: being the third to final game, is looking more and
Speaker 6: more like DeMarcus Lawrence may not retake the field in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. Might be a twenty twenty five situation
Speaker 6: that you're looking at as he continues to rehab from
Speaker 6: his foot injury.
Speaker 7: That has him on IR.
Speaker 6: We'll see effective next, you know, tomorrow, as a matter
Speaker 6: of fact, when they get back to practice.
Speaker 7: What the status is going to be.
Speaker 6: For a guy like Cooper Bebe who was in the
Speaker 6: concussion protocol, so he was ruled out for the game
Speaker 6: against the Panthers.
Speaker 7: Let's see if he can make it back this week.
Speaker 7: And then you have TJ. Bass.
Speaker 6: We're still waiting for some MRI results on him as well,
Speaker 6: with a thigh issue that cost him a couple of
Speaker 6: snaps in the game against the Panthers.
Speaker 7: So, Jose are just injury report situations.
Speaker 6: We'll get a lot more answers effective tomorrow Wednesday, like
Speaker 6: I said, when the Cowboys get back on the practice field.
Speaker 6: And then Jerry Jones spoke today to one O five
Speaker 6: three the Fan. There are several takeaways from that. One
Speaker 6: of the more interesting ones. First of all, headline statement
Speaker 6: that we all knew, Jerry Jones Stephen Jones, the Dallas
Speaker 6: Cowboys have Michael Parsons in their plans for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 7: I know there's some speculation and.
Speaker 6: Trade rumors out there, but they have time and time
Speaker 6: again said that Michael Parsons has been baked in to
Speaker 6: the trifect, the triumvirate, if you will, of Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott and Micah being the three biggest cornerstone guys
Speaker 6: so Stephen Jones reiterated it. This week. Jerry Jones just
Speaker 6: reiterated it. They are going to give everything they can
Speaker 6: to keep Micah in the building. But one of the
Speaker 6: biggest takeaways that I had was something that we touched on.
Speaker 6: I believe it was yesterday, might have been late last week.
Speaker 6: I losing track of my days because it's the Simper baby.
Speaker 6: He was asked Jerry Jones was if he views the mikes,
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy, Mike Zimmer as being tied together, and he said,
Speaker 6: to a degree, he does tie them together. So when
Speaker 6: you're looking at the twenty twenty five out look, I
Speaker 6: know you posed a question, Kyle. If McCarthy's back in
Speaker 6: the building, is Zimmer in the building. If McCarthy's not
Speaker 6: in the building, it's Zimmer in the building. So looks
Speaker 6: as if as the defense starts to turn this corner,
Speaker 6: and as the team as a whole continues to prove
Speaker 6: they're not giving up under the regime of Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 6: regardless of all this mountain of adversity, it might be
Speaker 6: a situation where both mikes are back in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7: I'm curious to see what the fans think about that.
Speaker 8: I mean, if you finished the season with a winning record,
Speaker 8: I don't know how you You don't look at the
Speaker 8: sample size that they've given you this season when the
Speaker 8: chips are down, and the chips have been down many
Speaker 8: times and.
Speaker 9: They're all uninjured reserve exactly.
Speaker 8: So I don't know, man, because I think everyone's a
Speaker 8: lot vocal majority of the Cowboys fans are begging for
Speaker 8: a change, right Yes, they're begging for something new. We
Speaker 8: need to see something new, and it feels to me
Speaker 8: this doesn't feel like the Jason Garrett era, where it
Speaker 8: was a lot of the same things, the same bugs.
Speaker 5: Media would buy you exactly.
Speaker 9: I didn't want to say that necessarily.
Speaker 5: That's part of what it was eight, Nate and seven.
Speaker 8: But something that Mike g seven and nine, that Michael Michael,
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy said earlier this week was the fact that
Speaker 8: he wanted to build a winning culture. And I think
Speaker 8: you've done that. I really think you have over the
Speaker 8: past three seasons. You've won twelve games each and every
Speaker 8: season this season notwithstanding. But if you look at the
Speaker 8: cards we were dealt this season, I don't know how
Speaker 8: one could pull twelve wins out of this team.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 5: I think I'm with you. I am.
Speaker 9: There's a growing to see a change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a growing contingency of Cowboys fans that are
Speaker 2: out there that are saying, why not run it back?
Speaker 5: Because of that very much that very same reason.
Speaker 2: Let's get Mike McCarthy, Let's get Mike Zimmer back into
Speaker 2: the fold, and then maybe we can take this thing
Speaker 2: full strength and full head of steam.
Speaker 5: Maybe you sign a free agent or two.
Speaker 2: Even though I know the groundwork is already being laid
Speaker 2: for another disappointing off season of spending. However, I don't like. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 7: I'm far off from active disappointment from.
Speaker 2: That mindset, I'm not far off from that because at
Speaker 2: least going into the year, you were saying, okay, it's
Speaker 2: playoff runner bust for for Mike McCarthy and this staff
Speaker 2: championship or for a lot of people, very much so.
Speaker 2: And the cards that were dealt and the team that
Speaker 2: was there, No, they weren't playing well.
Speaker 5: Before a lot of these injuries hit.
Speaker 2: But I still find it hard to believe that you're
Speaker 2: gonna go out there and my question becomes, who the
Speaker 2: hell are you gonna go get who else is out
Speaker 2: there that's going to coach this team better than what
Speaker 2: these guys have shown you they can coach this year.
Speaker 9: I think the one guy that it was it's tough
Speaker 9: to find.
Speaker 5: There might be a name out there. There might be.
Speaker 8: I think the one guy that was, the one guy
Speaker 8: that you'd actually considered, is not available.
Speaker 5: And see now in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
Speaker 9: Quite possible. Okay, I think that's the one guy with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm final too. I didn't want that either.
Speaker 7: That was that was not on my list.
Speaker 9: No, No, I was not yours.
Speaker 7: But I'm vocal about that.
Speaker 6: I'd like, there are there are other options, and I'm
Speaker 6: willing to have the conversation with fans, and I've had
Speaker 6: the conversation with fans as far as other options outside
Speaker 6: of McCarthy. Sure Carthy was to be moved on from,
Speaker 6: but Belichick was not.
Speaker 7: He was not it for me.
Speaker 9: Keep saying here, no, and granted I think that's our opinion.
Speaker 9: I don't know that was the opinion of their opinion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Start naming names, right you start, You start throwing out
Speaker 2: these names, and I can't throw a ton of them
Speaker 2: out there because they're contracted by other NFL teams. But
Speaker 2: you start throwing these names out there and all the
Speaker 2: rumors of who it could be next. Oh they're on
Speaker 2: the Cowboys radar. None of them excite me, none of them.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 2: And it's one of those grass ain't greener on the
Speaker 2: other side sort of conversations, right, And maybe that's something
Speaker 2: that is better in the future, or maybe you have
Speaker 2: something up your sleeve, but right this second, and I
Speaker 2: find it hard to believe because of the coaching job
Speaker 2: that they've done over on the other side, with what
Speaker 2: they've been given down the stretch.
Speaker 5: Remember, they lost.
Speaker 2: Two defensive starters this past week and had one of
Speaker 2: their better defensive pads period alone alone, and you've had
Speaker 2: any more outside of that. I'm not saying that their
Speaker 2: coaching position has been perfect, and there's been a lot
Speaker 2: of times we've been very very critical of the coaching,
Speaker 2: especially play calling aspects of it too, But I I've
Speaker 2: been very impressed down the stretch of how they've been
Speaker 2: able to overcome some of that adversity and play better
Speaker 2: and better despite those challenges.
Speaker 8: And when you lose five games in a row, that
Speaker 8: becomes a narrative, right when you lose five games, or
Speaker 8: in the middle of the losing, you're like, this is
Speaker 8: blow it up, blow it up, this is the worst.
Speaker 5: I was one of those people.
Speaker 9: Now it changes a bit.
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm there anymore.
Speaker 8: It changes quite a bit when you're able to galvanize
Speaker 8: a team behind you my point and not lose the team,
Speaker 8: because at no point in the season have you ever
Speaker 8: been like, oh, they gave on you.
Speaker 5: That's been the most impressive part of this whole season.
Speaker 6: You're three to one in your last four despite continued
Speaker 6: catastrophic losses season ending Zach Maart de Marveonov's shown Trayvon
Speaker 6: Diggs now.
Speaker 7: And out playing well.
Speaker 6: Right, So when you when you look at the back
Speaker 6: end of the season, if they finished, continue to finish
Speaker 6: out strong, galvanized, if you will. And let's say they
Speaker 6: take a win against the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's say they
Speaker 6: upset the Eagles because they have nothing to lose the
Speaker 6: Cowboys do they could play loose free?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Right, Let's say they go to Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: In that wind streak and right and in that wind street,
Speaker 6: and then let's say let's say they drop one of
Speaker 6: these next three probably gone.
Speaker 9: Probably Okay, there's a good chance.
Speaker 5: You lose two of your last three or all of
Speaker 5: your life.
Speaker 6: What if you take two of the last three and
Speaker 6: your last three are Tampa Bay, Philadelphia and Washington commander's
Speaker 6: three playoff team Huge? Then it circles back to what
Speaker 6: we talked about a couple of weeks ago. Would we
Speaker 6: be comfortable bringing back McCarthy. I said, you'd split the
Speaker 6: difference on that, and my answer would then be yes,
Speaker 6: not necessarily a five year, but you give me a
Speaker 6: two year so you can say short term, you're gonna
Speaker 6: get all your guys back. Now, let's see what you
Speaker 6: can do with a healthy cast, you and Mike Zimmer together.
Speaker 6: I would be fine with that if you finish out strong,
Speaker 6: if you build off this three and one and you
Speaker 6: fit win two of your next three, one of those
Speaker 6: being within the division, preferably in Philadelphia, because how freaking
Speaker 6: fun would that be?
Speaker 9: Fun?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think that you really have to justifiably entertain keeping
Speaker 6: Mike around, even if it's just for a couple more seasons,
Speaker 6: and there's.
Speaker 5: A lot of hypothetical still to be had.
Speaker 2: Well, of course, no way we're going to break twelve calls,
Speaker 2: but that is that's a needed conversation. I think so
Speaker 2: that it's it's going to continue over these last three games.
Speaker 5: And I guarantee you if they.
Speaker 2: If they lose the last three games, it's not going
Speaker 2: to feel the same as it did in the middle
Speaker 2: of the season when everybody was saying, oh, let's blow
Speaker 2: this thing up, because of the way that they've kept
Speaker 2: this locker room around and kept the spirits high despite
Speaker 2: what has been just a detrimental season across the board.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to NEBBI and Silver Stream, Silver Spring, Maryland. NEBBI,
Speaker 2: you're on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: What's going on? My friend?
Speaker 10: Hi, guys, thank you so much for taking my call. Listen,
Speaker 10: I just want to say, first of all, what is
Speaker 10: Cooper BB's status for this upcoming week. Do you think
Speaker 10: he's going to be able to clear concussion protocol? I
Speaker 10: I I I in time for him to play against
Speaker 10: the Bugs. Uh uh uh uh when we play them
Speaker 10: on Sunday Night football this coming Sunday night. And I
Speaker 10: also want to say that I'm a huge fan of
Speaker 10: Ben Johnson, as I've said in the past, So if
Speaker 10: we move on from Mike McCarthy, I want us to
Speaker 10: hire Ben Johnson, although to be honest, I know that's
Speaker 10: wishful thinking and I and I just want to make
Speaker 10: it abundantly clear.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 10: And just so you know, I am only bringing this
Speaker 10: up because I've heard reports about us possibly trading Michael Parsons,
Speaker 10: and I want you to know that that I would
Speaker 10: be absolutely furious, huh if we if we were to
Speaker 10: move on from Michael Persons. Uh. I hope that we
Speaker 10: give him a huge contract extension. Uh, and that hopefully
Speaker 10: he'll be a Dallas Cowboy his entire career. And before
Speaker 10: I go, I just want to say, I'm hoping that
Speaker 10: even though it's not practical for us to make the playoffs,
Speaker 10: I'm hoping that we win out so that if nothing else,
Speaker 10: we will have a winning season. Take care, Thank you
Speaker 10: so much for being patient with me, and have a
Speaker 10: great week. Bye.
Speaker 5: Thanks Thanks Navy, Love you man. Uh, Nabby noseball always
Speaker 5: always got to hit that. And we know this, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we know it, Mike.
Speaker 2: I think we all kind of shared that same sentiment,
Speaker 2: same kind of thing across the board.
Speaker 7: Scrap scraped that speculation.
Speaker 2: The only people talking about it are the people in
Speaker 2: the media. Let me just as far as I.
Speaker 8: Know, and honestly with it the same here before the
Speaker 8: season started, I was in that same camp I was.
Speaker 8: I was feeling a type of way about Michael Parsons, and.
Speaker 5: It's intriguing because there's there's gonna be a whole.
Speaker 9: Because you work how much you can you get such
Speaker 9: a talented player.
Speaker 7: It was neverharsal Walk.
Speaker 8: It was never his talent that was in doubt for me.
Speaker 8: It was it was the leadership for me. But man
Speaker 8: telling me, you see the season, how it's gone and
Speaker 8: the impact that he had on the defense when he
Speaker 8: came back and he's about to have a ten sex
Speaker 8: season still.
Speaker 6: Now you hear Micah in the season like this, and
Speaker 6: he constantly says, we're not giving up. And he's not
Speaker 6: saying that, just simply saying he believes they're a win.
Speaker 6: He said it after a loss, after gutting loss. He's like,
Speaker 6: we're not giving up. I'm trying to be the bright
Speaker 6: light in the room. And he continues to show the
Speaker 6: leadership and he believes it so absolutely. As far as
Speaker 6: Jen Benson can't really speak on Jien Bunson that brought
Speaker 6: him up, Yeah, well he's one of the options that
Speaker 6: fans opinion on him, But he's one of the ones
Speaker 6: that fans are talking about, and based on what fans
Speaker 6: are saying, fans are excited about the possibility of that
Speaker 6: being a thing. What I will refer you to Nebbie
Speaker 6: and everyone who's listening is the conversations we've had on
Speaker 6: talking about his salary requirement. It would be significant, it
Speaker 6: is significant, and I don't know that the Cowboys going
Speaker 6: to be comfortable with that in addition to giving that
Speaker 6: type of money to an unproven NFL head coach who
Speaker 6: they who may or may not hit the ground running
Speaker 6: as a head coach.
Speaker 7: So that's my on that.
Speaker 6: As far as Cooper bebe, I will not, cannot, shall
Speaker 6: not speculate on concussion protocol. We just know that he's
Speaker 6: in it right now. It's a little bit different from
Speaker 6: the Jake Ferguson situation that Jake Ferguson missed two games
Speaker 6: because largely because those two games were within a four
Speaker 6: day window, whereas Cooper bb he has more time coming
Speaker 6: out of the Carolina game. So yes, there's better, there
Speaker 6: are better odds that he'll take the field Sunday Night
Speaker 6: Football against the visiting Buccaneers. But we will not know
Speaker 6: until we know because it is concussion protocol. And I
Speaker 6: mean it's it's specialists, it's nerologists, it's not the.
Speaker 7: Cowboys that make that determination, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and I completely agree. I think there's there's
Speaker 2: a chance he's back this week. I think, uh, there
Speaker 2: was some I'm gonna I'm gonna hold this one close
Speaker 2: to the chests for a little bit. I'll continue with
Speaker 2: that later on with another Cooper BB conversation.
Speaker 5: But I think you can anticipate him being back this week.
Speaker 2: I really there's a time shot to be back, and
Speaker 2: it's a Sunday night game.
Speaker 5: They don't have to make. It's all.
Speaker 2: It's not a decision, right, it's not before a travel
Speaker 2: day like all that kind of thing, all that place factor.
Speaker 9: Don't take brock Offman off the field.
Speaker 7: Well you can't because you don't even you don't have Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's as long as brock we are the advocates.
Speaker 2: Final final thing on on Ben Johnson and what he brings.
Speaker 2: Since Neddie brought him up, he would be a name
Speaker 2: high on the.
Speaker 7: List of that's favable you would.
Speaker 9: Hope sign for me.
Speaker 7: Where I was saying, Belichick was not on my list.
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson there is up there, but again this is
Speaker 2: all just speculation, and Neddy brought.
Speaker 7: Him up first, and we were find a fan.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Brian in Kansas City. Brian, you're on
Speaker 2: Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 10: Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning Brian. How are you hey?
Speaker 10: Doing excellence? A little cold up here, but you know, hey,
Speaker 10: this is not the Mickey Spagnola weather Report.
Speaker 7: We'll move on.
Speaker 5: That's a favorite, no kidding. Hey, So I got two
Speaker 5: roster questions.
Speaker 10: This is kind of going forward. You know. Now I'm trying.
Speaker 6: I'm watching the Cowboys for you know, what can I
Speaker 6: see from individual players development?
Speaker 10: So I have a question, if it was you, not.
Speaker 11: Not, what do you think the Cowboys are going to
Speaker 11: do for you?
Speaker 7: Three guys?
Speaker 12: If it was you, would you keep brock k Hoffman at center.
Speaker 11: And put bb guard is natural position?
Speaker 5: Gods, talk to your evil question.
Speaker 7: I know I have an evil cackle.
Speaker 11: After I was waiting, I was waiting on Jazz to
Speaker 11: give me a drop for it.
Speaker 10: I didn't have I didn't have it ready.
Speaker 7: Some people just like to see the world burn.
Speaker 10: Anyway, that's my question. You all all hang up and listen,
Speaker 10: have a great one.
Speaker 5: Appreciate Brian.
Speaker 7: It is interesting.
Speaker 5: I mean brock who.
Speaker 2: The question then comes down in that scenario is who
Speaker 2: do you like better? Do you like brock Hoffman the
Speaker 2: guard better? Do you like brock Hoffman the center better?
Speaker 9: I like brock Hoffman on the field, and that's that's fine,
Speaker 9: that's here.
Speaker 7: I am with it.
Speaker 6: As long as he's on the field. Then I like
Speaker 6: Cooper Bebe the center better. Yes, yeah, especially future tints.
Speaker 2: And you're seeing the versatility right now because of it,
Speaker 2: because you have TJ Bass that you have confidence in
Speaker 2: the step in a guard too. Still, Zach Martin is
Speaker 2: still on this roster even moving forward.
Speaker 5: It's an interesting question.
Speaker 2: It is because you can go into the off season
Speaker 2: and you can say, you know what, let's say Zach
Speaker 2: Martin hypothetical he has done. Let's say he is and
Speaker 2: his career comes to a close. Then you push Hoffman
Speaker 2: to center full time, you push bb to guard full time,
Speaker 2: and see what you got there.
Speaker 9: I don't think you do it. I don't think you
Speaker 9: do it.
Speaker 5: I don't think so either, but it would be interesting.
Speaker 9: But I don't hate either option. No, I really don't.
Speaker 8: I think there are both solid options, But to me,
Speaker 8: what's really important is finding a.
Speaker 9: Way to keep brock Hoffman on the face.
Speaker 2: And remember, genuinely, BB did beat brock Hoffman quickly because
Speaker 2: Brock Coffin. There were times in training camp where you
Speaker 2: and I were sitting there watching drills together and it
Speaker 2: was like, a.
Speaker 5: Brock Coffin's gonna win this job.
Speaker 2: Brock's gonna win this Cooper b B struggling, he can't
Speaker 2: figure out the snap side of things, and then figure
Speaker 2: out to Mama BB that happened.
Speaker 8: You want him next to BB, you want you want
Speaker 8: that attitude on the On the I.
Speaker 6: Think we're all in agreement, including Brian. We want in
Speaker 6: the event that Zach Martin does call it a career,
Speaker 6: we want Brock Kffman and BB on the field at
Speaker 6: the same time. Whatever your orientation I want, I don't
Speaker 6: think you can wright. I don't think you can go
Speaker 6: wrong as far as if it's Hoff minute center, BB
Speaker 6: at guard, BB at guard, hoff minute center, personal preference, though,
Speaker 6: keep BB at center, brockaff Min at guard and Prosper.
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed. I like it though. I like provoking conversations
Speaker 2: like that too. You mean evil questions, baby, We're gonna
Speaker 2: take a break when we come back.
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Speaker 5: go to Josh in Chicago. Josh, you're on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: What's going on?
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how you doing today?
Speaker 5: Great?
Speaker 9: How are you Someboddy?
Speaker 11: Not bad? Not bad at all. So just real quick
Speaker 11: on the coaches. I just want to say I kind
Speaker 11: of agree with Patrick. If Mike comes back, and I'm
Speaker 11: talking about Mike McCarthy, I'm giving him like a two
Speaker 11: year window, nothing longer. And I honestly I don't mind
Speaker 11: that I thought it should have been done before the
Speaker 11: season started. I think, you know, three twelve and five.
Speaker 11: I get it, he didn't make it to the NFC
Speaker 11: Championship playoffs struggles, but you know, the thirty year drought
Speaker 11: isn't his fault alone. The other thing I have to
Speaker 11: say is if we do move on there, I think,
Speaker 11: you know, Zim kind of had some struggles with the
Speaker 11: defense early, and I wonder how much they believe in him.
Speaker 11: But you know, say his name and he appears. I
Speaker 11: believe in Al Harris.
Speaker 7: He just give us the Joe Hendry I love.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I know you guys would like that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, we love ourselves some Mal Harris on
Speaker 5: this show.
Speaker 7: No, he hit us with the with the the Joe.
Speaker 2: I like Al Harris as a defensive coordinator, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I know that, Joe.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would love to see Al Harris as a
Speaker 11: defensive coordinator. But honestly, I think he's a culture guy
Speaker 11: and I think the team believes in him. I wouldn't
Speaker 11: mind seeing him in the head coach role either.
Speaker 10: That's just me. I'll hang up on to yell too.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Josh, appreciate that chaos, My man, Josh, that's two
Speaker 2: chaos grenades in a row.
Speaker 5: This is good. This is good.
Speaker 2: Start Cooper, do it it out these guys crazy.
Speaker 7: But no, we did. We did talk. We talked about
Speaker 7: the DC conversation.
Speaker 6: As far as I do believe Al Harris qualifies for
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator, and I believe that going into this season
Speaker 6: before they brought Mike Zimmer in, Al Harris was my
Speaker 6: my front runner, my lead horse to get that role.
Speaker 6: And you know, obviously they went with reunion with Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 6: but that doesn't change even with Mike Zimmer, you know,
Speaker 6: turning the corner on the back end of the season
Speaker 6: with the defensive pieces that he has, and they are
Speaker 6: in pieces right now, shambles if you will, I'm still
Speaker 6: you know, if they're having the DC conversation, for me,
Speaker 6: it's still Al Harris, okay, versus Mike Zimmer. But you
Speaker 6: do not take Al Harris out of that DC conversation
Speaker 6: for Dallas, especially if you want to keep him in
Speaker 6: the building, because I think I feel like, given his talent,
Speaker 6: giving how other teams are going to view him and
Speaker 6: his ability to develop, if you don't give him a
Speaker 6: bigger role that he got the assistant head coach. But
Speaker 6: if you maybe don't give him his own defense, you
Speaker 6: got to ask yourself, will someone else do it?
Speaker 7: Like what Seattle did with eight and dirty.
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: And that's the thing when you look at this team
Speaker 2: and you look at them from the outside end, by
Speaker 2: the way, give us a call eight eight eight five
Speaker 2: five two two ninety seven. If you look at this
Speaker 2: team from the outside looking in, with all of the injuries,
Speaker 2: all of the adversity that you've seen from a roster standpoint,
Speaker 2: who are the guys next man up? Mentality that we've
Speaker 2: talked about the most. Josh Butler Amonio will warr you.
Speaker 6: I'm continuing on with Day Carson before he got hurt.
Speaker 5: I know he kind of had some rough patches. Gosh,
Speaker 5: I forgot about Kayln Carson. That's another name.
Speaker 2: I mean that was a yeah, yeah, just thinking about it,
Speaker 2: you got a lot of him again on the radar
Speaker 2: early people.
Speaker 5: Let's say one Day.
Speaker 2: Thomas, all these guys, I mean, these guys that have
Speaker 2: stepped up, Mark Spell before he got hurt, all these
Speaker 2: guys that have stepped up in a big way, who
Speaker 2: are they under the umbrella.
Speaker 9: Of one Al Harris.
Speaker 2: So if there's one piece of coaching and one element
Speaker 2: of coaching that you're confident in on that defensive side. Sure,
Speaker 2: you've had a lot of rotating in that front sevens
Speaker 2: playing better, and there's a lot of credit that deserves
Speaker 2: to go upfront to at least over the last three
Speaker 2: games consistently throughout the season, when when, when, for lack
Speaker 2: of a better term, when the crap has hit the fan,
Speaker 2: you've had Al Harris step up and these guys have
Speaker 2: responded in a big way despite a revolving door at
Speaker 2: corner and revolving door at safety at different times this year.
Speaker 9: One hundred percent.
Speaker 8: And of course it wasn't until the defensive line sort
Speaker 8: of became intact, when you actually had depth there, that
Speaker 8: it actually all started to click. And you all a
Speaker 8: lot of that to Michael Parsons, but again a lot
Speaker 8: to Al Harris as well.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's really night and day.
Speaker 8: And I'm my fear is that if it's the same
Speaker 8: crew next year, if it's Mike McCarthy, if it's Mike Zimmerg,
Speaker 8: you don't get Al Harris because he is going to
Speaker 8: take that next step.
Speaker 2: In order for somebody to pluck him, he would have
Speaker 2: to be a defensive coordinator, right, yeah, because that's the only.
Speaker 9: Other promotion he can get along the way. Okay, good enough?
Speaker 2: Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven.
Speaker 2: We had a couple of lines open. I think they
Speaker 2: both dropped.
Speaker 6: So what do you there? Prepared to throw those chaos grenades?
Speaker 9: I stole somebody's call, That's what it was.
Speaker 5: Was that what it.
Speaker 2: Eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. The
Speaker 2: phone lines are open? Uh, going into this matchup, of
Speaker 2: course tomorrow we're going to preview Cowboys defense going up
Speaker 2: against the Tampa Bay offense.
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay's looking pretty good.
Speaker 6: They are looking protect offenses with the return of Mike
Speaker 6: Evans from injury.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they are doing some things.
Speaker 9: Mike conversation, Yes, I think you should.
Speaker 7: How could he not be?
Speaker 9: I don't know how he couldn't be.
Speaker 6: Mike Evans, he's about to have He's had a thousand
Speaker 6: yards years every year since Moses parted the Rids seat. Yeah,
Speaker 6: Mike Evans is one hundred.
Speaker 2: He would have eleven and this would this would be
Speaker 2: if he ends up even with the injury in the
Speaker 2: ir stint, he only needs like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: eight hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 8: It's a no brainer to be But what what is
Speaker 8: the devil's advocate here? Why wouldn't he make the hall?
Speaker 6: There's only one devil's advocate. Oh he doesn't have a ring,
Speaker 6: that's always he does have a ring. Oh yeah, he does,
Speaker 6: right with that's pretty so then there is no.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hasn't won.
Speaker 2: Actually forgot, he hasn't been But yeah, he's won a
Speaker 2: ring and he's done it. He's done everything that you're
Speaker 2: we're talking about here over those ten seasons, just made
Speaker 2: a number of quarterbacks. He's done it with Jameis Winston. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's done it with god knows who was in between
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston and Tom Brady. He's done it with Baker Mayfield. Now,
Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter who's throwing on the football, he's
Speaker 2: still doing it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He may not be like a first ballot guy. It
Speaker 2: may not be like immediate, like lock first ball.
Speaker 6: He should be though, because think about this, that's tough.
Speaker 6: He is in the same breath. Although I would argue
Speaker 6: statistically a little bit greater than a couple of the
Speaker 6: names I'm about to say, Andre Johnson, right, not first ballot,
Speaker 6: But no, my point is Hall of Famer. So in
Speaker 6: the conversation of Hall of Famer, Mike Evis is a
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer. Now, if you want to push Mike
Speaker 6: Evans over to the first ballot over Andre Johnson, you say, well,
Speaker 6: he has a ring Mike Evans does.
Speaker 7: And look at the consistency.
Speaker 6: Year in year out, year in year out, no matter
Speaker 6: who the quarterback has been, right, and then the other name.
Speaker 7: It just escaped me.
Speaker 6: There was another one, Oh Megatron, Right, So Megatron is there.
Speaker 6: You go, he's going to be in and he doesn't
Speaker 6: have the jewelry that that Mike Evans has.
Speaker 5: So but he had more status.
Speaker 6: Not get what you're saying, but that's the air. So
Speaker 6: Andre Johnson, Megatron, and Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike Evans is a top eight wide receiver all time,
Speaker 2: all time, all time. I couldn't say that there have
Speaker 2: only been seven first ballot wide receivers that's all time, Yeah, cause.
Speaker 9: I only the last two are Randy Mass and Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Paul Warfield, that's Raymond Berry.
Speaker 7: I mean that's a good point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the only thing I have.
Speaker 7: That's a good point.
Speaker 5: And he's phenomenal.
Speaker 15: This is.
Speaker 7: This day evening.
Speaker 5: All right, let's go I love this. How about this.
Speaker 5: Let's go all the way out to the great state
Speaker 5: of Alaska.
Speaker 2: Hey, John's warm.
Speaker 7: Let's go Codd Country.
Speaker 5: What's the tip out there?
Speaker 12: Temperature right now is nineteen degrees.
Speaker 5: Oh that's not too bad. Yeah, that's a warm summer
Speaker 5: day up there.
Speaker 8: You were just saw cold cases in your free time
Speaker 8: like that just seems like a thing to do.
Speaker 9: You're just in true detective always.
Speaker 6: Is it true that vampires come out during the months the.
Speaker 7: Sun doesn't run. We've been watching too many movies.
Speaker 5: Three sunlight, three hours of sunlight. That's all you've got
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 12: Oh I'm exaggerating a little bit.
Speaker 5: What's going on? You're on talking cowboys.
Speaker 12: Good to have you, John, Thanks first time. Color.
Speaker 5: I appreciate he absolutely, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12: So just so you know, I get up at six
Speaker 12: am every morning to listen to you guys talk.
Speaker 9: Love you, appreciate, appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 12: So uh, I'm still in the realm of blowing this,
Speaker 12: blowing this up. And the reason for that is number one,
Speaker 12: this team is supposed to be reaching for championships, and
Speaker 12: even though We've had twelve wins every year, which is
Speaker 12: fantastic in and of itself. We haven't gotten any depth
Speaker 12: into the playoffs and that's concerned for me. Also, the
Speaker 12: other part is I still see concerns in the offense,
Speaker 12: UH that are kind of traits that aren't don't seem
Speaker 12: to be disappearing, such as not committing to the run
Speaker 12: when the game is close or we're slightly behind. So
Speaker 12: I I would love to see somebody else then Johnson
Speaker 12: on my list, but I think we've missed out on
Speaker 12: a lot of other of the up and comer offensive
Speaker 12: gurus that might be out there, like the Shan mcvay's
Speaker 12: or the Kyle Shanahan. As far as the Parsons trade,
Speaker 12: I think we need to be honest a little bit.
Speaker 12: Parsons is not big enough to hold up throughout the
Speaker 12: entire season, and that's a concern. We need to figure
Speaker 12: out how to preserve him for later in the season,
Speaker 12: but I don't think it's worth trading him. If we did,
Speaker 12: then it would have to be for our players such
Speaker 12: as Miles Garrett type. In my opinion, you got to
Speaker 12: get somebody bigger and stronger and can hold up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, or just a huge haul of draft picks. John.
Speaker 5: We appreciate your call. What part of Alaska are you in.
Speaker 12: I'm about an hour north of Anchorage in a town
Speaker 12: called Palmer.
Speaker 2: Oh, very cool. Well, we appreciate you listening. We appreciate
Speaker 2: your support as always. Thanks for giving us a call.
Speaker 2: Make sure and call next time, too, great call.
Speaker 7: We love Alaska.
Speaker 6: I've been up there, Yeah, I remember you went. We
Speaker 6: were talking about the one of the things on my
Speaker 6: boocke lists I want to do with you want her
Speaker 6: to hold to Alaska. It's just it's just the scenery
Speaker 6: and I've not been able to experience it, but just
Speaker 6: seeing it in video in images, the scenery is just.
Speaker 7: Again Alaska.
Speaker 2: What did you think about Mica there at the end,
Speaker 2: I get what he's trying to say, and I think
Speaker 2: he's meaning straight injury concerns in terms of not big enough.
Speaker 9: Well, if you look at his resume the past few
Speaker 9: numbers die.
Speaker 5: The numbers die December January.
Speaker 9: They dive exactly exactly when you need him.
Speaker 5: So I get the concern.
Speaker 8: But you see him working on his conditioning in the
Speaker 8: off season. I don't think necessarily that's a big part
Speaker 8: of it. I mean it's it's in the evidence, right,
Speaker 8: You've seen it. At least this season. I'm seeing different
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons, and I alluded to that earlier in this episode.
Speaker 8: I really think you want to see this on this
Speaker 8: team for the foreseeable future. If he decides to improve
Speaker 8: his physique or endurance or whatever it is, I'm all
Speaker 8: for whatever he wants to do, because I think he's
Speaker 8: making the right decisions.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 8: Got to be to his point about Mike McCarthy wanted
Speaker 8: to blow it up. I completely understand where's coming from,
Speaker 8: because you know, those five lossuits in a row.
Speaker 9: That was not fun. That was not fun.
Speaker 2: That was the lowest I remember covering the Cowboys. That's
Speaker 2: the lowest I've been here since twenty nineteen. So, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm one hundredercent and.
Speaker 5: A Cowboys fan all my life and same.
Speaker 9: Year since I started watching.
Speaker 8: I don't think I've ever felt as poorly as I
Speaker 8: have about the team. Correct, however, he brought up, you know,
Speaker 8: missing out on coaches like Sean mcgay was so young.
Speaker 6: But for those of us that have experienced nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 6: you know, but that's.
Speaker 2: Part of the intrigue that I have now is the
Speaker 2: fact that they were able to dig out of that
Speaker 2: even with what they.
Speaker 8: Had exactly, and he's talking about missing out like coaches
Speaker 8: like Sean McVay, the coaching San Francisco.
Speaker 9: What's his name, Kyle Shannon, Kyle Shannan, Shannan.
Speaker 7: Tree, right, the guy who lost his lucking room.
Speaker 8: He hasn't won a Super Bowl for one And if
Speaker 8: you look at the last you know five ten coaches
Speaker 8: that won Super Bowl. I mean only Sean McVay is
Speaker 8: in that conversation. As far as terms of young head
Speaker 8: young head coaches, you saw the Andy Reids, you saw
Speaker 8: have the Bruce Arians.
Speaker 9: Who were winning and dang it, Bill, I know right.
Speaker 8: So to me, man, it's they're hot names, right, They're
Speaker 8: hot young names. That's that's basically it. That's what you're
Speaker 8: looking at right now.
Speaker 2: Ask the girl at the ball, Ask New Orleans how
Speaker 2: that's working out. Ask Miami how it's working out. It's
Speaker 2: always fun for a little bit, but until you have
Speaker 2: the ups and the downs and you can work your
Speaker 2: way out of it. That's why like Sean McVay, like
Speaker 2: you said, he's on that list as a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: winning head coach. Absolutely, he's done it before, but they
Speaker 2: sold out for that and now he's having to go
Speaker 2: through the back half of that and he's coaching his
Speaker 2: way out.
Speaker 5: That's what's impressive to me for Sean mack hey.
Speaker 9: He's a great coach. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7: Careful falling for the hot girl at the bar exactly. That.
Speaker 8: That's where I'm at, man, because it is one thing
Speaker 8: to win a lot during the season, which we have
Speaker 8: been doing as of late. Not this season, but we
Speaker 8: have done as of late, and it's about getting over
Speaker 8: that hump, which we have not been able to do
Speaker 8: in thirty years.
Speaker 9: And what another caller alluded to before is that.
Speaker 5: It's not his fault.
Speaker 8: How's that on Mike? How can you blame thirty five
Speaker 8: plus years on Mike?
Speaker 2: That's the unfortunate side of it, though. That's the unfortunate
Speaker 2: side of it. It's not their fault. It's not Mike's fault,
Speaker 2: it's not the player's fault, it's not all of these guys' fault.
Speaker 5: But it's still going to fall on their shoulders, correct,
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 2: The thirty years of disappointment on this franchise is still
Speaker 2: going to fall on their shoulders. And every year that
Speaker 2: they don't get it done and they don't go to
Speaker 2: an NFC Championship game, and they don't go to a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, that weight gets heavier and heavier on their
Speaker 2: shoulders until somebody is strong enough to carry it across
Speaker 2: the finish line.
Speaker 6: And I want to say this part I definitely agree with.
Speaker 6: There are some tendencies that I see with in the
Speaker 6: McCarthy regime that I still would like to see changed,
Speaker 6: and they've not changed quickly for me, so I'm starting
Speaker 6: to see them turn the corner. Example being now Cavante
Speaker 6: Turpin is getting more involved in the offensive play card. Right,
Speaker 6: but year five, what took this so long?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 6: So you have those types of questions, and then, like
Speaker 6: he said, sometimes they get away from the run. That's
Speaker 6: the same thing that Mike McCarthy used to be infuriated
Speaker 6: by Kellen Moore about getting away from the running situations
Speaker 6: where you have the lead, you can use the clock,
Speaker 6: you're running the ball effectively, and then you pass past
Speaker 6: past That's the most Kellen.
Speaker 7: Morrish thing to do.
Speaker 6: But then you see McCarthy do it sometimes over the
Speaker 6: past couple of seasons. So in that capacity, I understand
Speaker 6: and I agree I would like to see those things change.
Speaker 6: But again, we're not sitting here saying that if McCarthy
Speaker 6: is retained, to give him a ten year deal or
Speaker 6: even a five year deal. My stance is that if
Speaker 6: you retain him two years right with an out after
Speaker 6: the first year, let them get his guys back. If
Speaker 6: the Cowboys continue to finish this season strong, because given
Speaker 6: the level of adversity that they've had, how on earth
Speaker 6: could we be sitting here even talking about what we're
Speaker 6: talking about.
Speaker 7: That's what's mind blowing to me in a positive way.
Speaker 9: And if you lose all the next three I think
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Speaker 7: In the conversation, it becomes a little bit more organic.
Speaker 5: I think it changes slightly. I don't think it changes
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Speaker 6: It doesn't. It doesn't it off the table. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: think it does turn the knob a little bit.
Speaker 2: It does it turn It turns it back because losing,
Speaker 2: you know, is the problem. I mean, that's part of it,
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Speaker 5: Good morning, Jesse. How are you?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 11: It's nisan frosty up here in Iowa.
Speaker 5: What's the temperature there?
Speaker 11: It's a twenty two degrees you're almost Alaska.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, seems pretty good difference. What's going on, Jesse? What's
Speaker 5: on your mind?
Speaker 10: Hey? First time caller?
Speaker 7: Man, Thank y'all fort on.
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Speaker 5: Thanks so much.
Speaker 7: I think I'm the only Dallas Cowboys saying in Iowa.
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Speaker 18: Hey, do you all think Osa is playing himself out
Speaker 18: of Dallas?
Speaker 7: A good question? Talkout?
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for the call, Jesse, good call, good question.
Speaker 6: Do you think that it's it's a possibility. Let's let's
Speaker 6: speak objectively, it's a possibility. It is difficult to find
Speaker 6: an impact DT in this league, but when you're talking
Speaker 6: about one who can also impact the game, both as
Speaker 6: a run defender and most certainly as a disruptor in
Speaker 6: the backfield against quarterbacks, sex pressures and things like that
Speaker 6: quarterback hits.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Osa is indeed increasing.
Speaker 6: The odds by his play that he will He may
Speaker 6: not be in Dallas, but I would I would counter
Speaker 6: with this, and this is not just me speaking objectively,
Speaker 6: but this is also me having had conversation with Osa.
Speaker 7: He wants hope.
Speaker 6: In his mind, he's playing himself into a new deal
Speaker 6: in Dallas. So that that's the way that you should
Speaker 6: kind of look at it, if you want to look
Speaker 6: at it through Osa's standpoint. And again this is with
Speaker 6: me having had several conversations with him. He wants to
Speaker 6: remain in Dallas and he's hopefully playing himself into that contract.
Speaker 6: And also keep in mind, this isn't new for Osa.
Speaker 6: I know we're talking about him a lot lately, but
Speaker 6: go look at his last couple of seasons. He's just
Speaker 6: been getting better every single week, every single game. Had
Speaker 6: a slow start this to this season, as you know,
Speaker 6: the unit trying to figure out the Mike zimmersis.
Speaker 9: And for lack of health and for lack of.
Speaker 6: Help, but now it's coming together. So yeah, odds are
Speaker 6: there's a chance Osa gets a much heftier offer somewhere else,
Speaker 6: but there are equal odds that he wants to remain
Speaker 6: in Dallas and he will give the Cowboys every opportunity
Speaker 6: to retain him.
Speaker 8: My thing about Osa, and we talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 8: I brought up an evil question, I said, which is
Speaker 8: if you could bring back Osa, Jordan Lewis, it's it's
Speaker 8: for me, it's probably one or the other. But if
Speaker 8: you do sign OSA, you're going to lose somebody very
Speaker 8: crucial to this team.
Speaker 5: Probably, uh and just because a piece of.
Speaker 8: Just exactly look down the list. You have de Mark
Speaker 8: Lawrence coming up, you have Jordan Lewis coming up. You
Speaker 8: have a lot of integral players to this defense of team.
Speaker 5: You're eating a lot of it.
Speaker 7: I don't hear about this impacted there They're gonna be started.
Speaker 9: Sorry, did I interrupt you?
Speaker 7: Guys?
Speaker 5: Sorry?
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Speaker 5: They heard the pie. The pie is there, and the
Speaker 5: pie has been kicked.
Speaker 2: That ten has been kicked down the road, and it's
Speaker 2: a bigger and bigger piece of pie that you continued
Speaker 2: to take away.
Speaker 5: And that would just be another one.
Speaker 6: Mostly I agree with I'm not getting much salary cap
Speaker 6: soap bucks another day.
Speaker 9: It's still there.
Speaker 2: We appreciate the evil questions NFL leaders in quarterback hits
Speaker 2: over the last seven weeks. And this is Kurt of
Speaker 2: A Bobby Belt Friend of the Show tied for third,
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons, Dalvin Tomlinson, t J. Watt, I'll have thirteen.
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is in second with fifteen. This is over
Speaker 2: the last seven weeks of the year. Quarterback hits.
Speaker 5: Osa Odiggezuoa leads the.
Speaker 2: NFL with sixteen quarterback hits over those four names t J. Watt,
Speaker 2: Dalvin Tomlinson, Michael Parsons and Miles Garrett. If he were
Speaker 2: to play like this all year long, he would be
Speaker 2: in an all pro level. He would be on his
Speaker 2: way to a mega, mega deal, and there would be
Speaker 2: no way that he is in Dallas. So maybe there's
Speaker 2: a shot that it's only the last seven weeks of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 6: Lets just hope he really likes he will know properly
Speaker 6: he will be a Tier B free agent coming this offseason.
Speaker 7: Which is still going right now.
Speaker 6: No, I mean, as it stands, if he continues this,
Speaker 6: then he'll bump Yeah, he'll bump up in a.
Speaker 8: Tier Start's Armstrong got paid in the off season, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying like that, and he was not
Speaker 8: the contributor to the overpay. Yeah, of course, so this
Speaker 8: man will get a bag regardless, and I hope it's here.
Speaker 6: I do too, gosh, I, like I said, also will
Speaker 6: give the Cowboys every opportunity and then some to keep
Speaker 6: him in Dallas also wants to stay in Dallas.
Speaker 7: Agreed.
Speaker 2: All right, last caller of the day. Let's go to
Speaker 2: Jordan in Dallas. Jordan, what's going on?
Speaker 7: Lewis?
Speaker 10: Hello?
Speaker 7: Okay, this is this isn't Jordan?
Speaker 5: Lewis right? Wis as part of it? Jordan, we got you.
Speaker 5: What's going on?
Speaker 18: He actually kind of fits into my question. But first
Speaker 18: I wanted to say, I've been listening to you guys
Speaker 18: since twenty twenty one. Yes, and famous favorite show by
Speaker 18: far and what's weird? I was just thinking about it.
Speaker 18: I kind of don't have the same story as most
Speaker 18: football people. I didn't listen to I didn't play football,
Speaker 18: I didn't like football. And then I was dancing around
Speaker 18: with my baby trying to put her asleep in twenty
Speaker 18: twenty one, and the Cowboys came on with Dak playing
Speaker 18: against the Tampa Buccaneers the opener, and it was such
Speaker 18: a good game. I became a fan. Uh And I
Speaker 18: started looking for, you know, shows to figure out how
Speaker 18: to how to understand the game, and I found you guys,
Speaker 18: And now I'm going to my first game next week.
Speaker 5: That's awesome, good stuff.
Speaker 7: That's full circle because it's Tampa.
Speaker 18: Bay it is and my brother in law of a
Speaker 18: huge vicer Mayfield fan. So we're gonna go together.
Speaker 7: And it's gonna be.
Speaker 18: Probably pretty rough.
Speaker 7: You're hoping to ruin his Christmas with you.
Speaker 2: Jordan's right, So the barring weather, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: little chilli out there, but we're gonna be out on
Speaker 2: the plaza, uh for Cowboys pregame live. It'll be me, Isaiah, Barry, Nate.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll try and get Josh and Patrick out of
Speaker 2: the press box to come say hi, Say hi. We're
Speaker 2: eight t East Plaza. It's back where the big mirror is.
Speaker 2: You will be out there on the stage where like
Speaker 2: the cheerleaders and the Rhythm and Blue dancers are.
Speaker 5: Come say hi. Because that's awesome. Man. I love to
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, come come stop me and and if if
Speaker 2: you get my attention, say like, hey, it's Jordan I
Speaker 2: called on Tuesday, like that kind of thing, and we'll
Speaker 2: make it happen. That's awesome, man. I appreciate you hearing that.
Speaker 2: Did you did you have a question before.
Speaker 5: We let you go?
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I've had a question about the DVS. What
Speaker 18: do you guys think personally. We were just talking about
Speaker 18: about Al Harris and how amazing he's been with all
Speaker 18: the dvs, and something I've been super impressed with all
Speaker 18: season is watching all these no name guys come off
Speaker 18: the bench and kind of blow my mind. And they
Speaker 18: come out and I'm expecting this to be a terrible,
Speaker 18: terrible game like it was last year, and each time,
Speaker 18: most of the time, other than a couple, they've they've
Speaker 18: stepped up. And my question is between mccuamu over Wier
Speaker 18: Butler Carson, who would your pick be for the first
Speaker 18: guy off the bench if any of our starters are
Speaker 18: not available next year, because some of them have been
Speaker 18: really impressed. So I want to hear what you guys.
Speaker 2: No, that's a great question, Jordan, thanks for the call
Speaker 2: as always and the support.
Speaker 5: You want to start it and so forth.
Speaker 6: Would have loved to see him be able to finish
Speaker 6: out the season see if he can build.
Speaker 7: On what he showed us. But it's Josh Butler, the Butler.
Speaker 7: Josh Butler did it was that the boat tie?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Butler did with the candlestick in the in the library.
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, I'm going Josh Butler possibly.
Speaker 2: That's my answer to that would be what was the
Speaker 2: shortlist again? It was Amani Mccuamouk, Kayln Carson. It'll probably
Speaker 2: be Kayl and Carson. Just another year of seasoning. But
Speaker 2: in terms of film, out of the guys that played
Speaker 2: best on film this year, it was Josh Butler.
Speaker 9: That's fair.
Speaker 5: Josh Butler played better than Carson.
Speaker 8: But I think the ceiling is higher obviously for a
Speaker 8: Kayln Carson. I think one more year in this defense
Speaker 8: now that everyone's starting to buy in, I think that's your.
Speaker 6: Guy also, and shouts out to Izzy Israel mccuambo, because
Speaker 6: every time he's been asked to come into the game
Speaker 6: because of an injury or whatever the case may be,
Speaker 6: he has played at minimum solid football. His floor has
Speaker 6: been solid, and then he just builds on that in
Speaker 6: certain situations like the game ceiling interceptions.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's reliable and.
Speaker 6: He keep in mind, this is the flash who has
Speaker 6: been relegated to safety for the majority of his career.
Speaker 7: But then he gets thrown in.
Speaker 6: He gets thrown into the wildcard matchup against Tom Brady
Speaker 6: and what turned out to be tom Brady's last game
Speaker 6: and helps shut down Tom Brady as a big Nickel.
Speaker 6: It's huge after being safety the entire time. So shouts
Speaker 6: out to Izzy Mucuombo his versatility. And you talk about
Speaker 6: somebody who plays with a fire in his belly. That's
Speaker 6: that's a guy. That's a guy.
Speaker 5: No doubt. We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: When only got the six callers today, but let me
Speaker 2: tell you it was a good talk. You guys were
Speaker 2: awesome today. These calls were fantastic.
Speaker 7: So much chaos.
Speaker 2: Love the chaos, love the chaos grenades. We're making it
Speaker 2: happen here talking gobboys.
Speaker 7: Now she finds the drop. Now she finds the drop.
Speaker 7: Jazz is too late.
Speaker 6: You're banned from Alaska because you didn't have the drop.
Speaker 7: I can't go.
Speaker 5: It's only not teen degrees. There's Sonny and.
Speaker 7: Warm, just like you can.
Speaker 5: For Jasmine Marshall, for Josh Rodriguez Patrick. No see Walker,
Speaker 5: I'm KYLEI Yemans.
Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow previewing the Dallas defense against this red
Speaker 2: hot Tampa Bay offense. We'll be back tomorrow, See you
Speaker 2: later on More Hockey Cowboys.
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