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Speaker 2: We've got Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, We've got Jasmin

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, So we're still waiting to hear an update on

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Speaker 6: the situation with Jordan Lewis with his elbow. Like I said,

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Speaker 6: he told me that he has full mobility. He was

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Speaker 6: just waiting to get some MRI results done. And that's

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Speaker 6: you know, we're still waiting to see what that is.

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Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence the Cowboys, it doesn't sound like they're going

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Speaker 6: to activate his twenty one day window for practice this

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Speaker 6: week either. And as we go into this game, which

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Speaker 6: being the third to final game, is looking more and

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Speaker 6: more like DeMarcus Lawrence may not retake the field in

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Speaker 7: That has him on IR.

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Speaker 6: We'll see effective next, you know, tomorrow, as a matter

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Speaker 7: What the status is going to be.

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Speaker 6: For a guy like Cooper Bebe who was in the

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Speaker 6: against the Panthers.

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Speaker 7: Let's see if he can make it back this week.

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Speaker 7: And then you have TJ. Bass.

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Speaker 6: We're still waiting for some MRI results on him as well,

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Speaker 7: So, Jose are just injury report situations.

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Speaker 6: We'll get a lot more answers effective tomorrow Wednesday, like

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Speaker 6: I said, when the Cowboys get back on the practice field.

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Speaker 6: And then Jerry Jones spoke today to one O five

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Speaker 6: three the Fan. There are several takeaways from that. One

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Speaker 6: of the more interesting ones. First of all, headline statement

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Speaker 6: that we all knew, Jerry Jones Stephen Jones, the Dallas

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Speaker 7: I know there's some speculation and.

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Speaker 6: again said that Michael Parsons has been baked in to

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Speaker 6: so Stephen Jones reiterated it. This week. Jerry Jones just

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Speaker 6: I believe it was yesterday, might have been late last week.

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Speaker 6: He was asked Jerry Jones was if he views the mikes,

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy, Mike Zimmer as being tied together, and he said,

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Speaker 6: know you posed a question, Kyle. If McCarthy's back in

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Speaker 6: regardless of all this mountain of adversity, it might be

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Speaker 7: I'm curious to see what the fans think about that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you finished the season with a winning record,

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Speaker 8: I don't know how you You don't look at the

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Speaker 9: They're all uninjured reserve exactly.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know, man, because I think everyone's a

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Speaker 8: lot vocal majority of the Cowboys fans are begging for

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Speaker 8: a change, right Yes, they're begging for something new. We

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Speaker 8: this doesn't feel like the Jason Garrett era, where it

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Speaker 8: was a lot of the same things, the same bugs.

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Speaker 5: Media would buy you exactly.

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Speaker 9: I didn't want to say that necessarily.

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Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy said earlier this week was the fact that

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Speaker 8: he wanted to build a winning culture. And I think

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Speaker 8: you've done that. I really think you have over the

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Speaker 8: one could pull twelve wins out of this team.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm with you. I am.

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Speaker 9: There's a growing to see a change.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a growing contingency of Cowboys fans that are

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Speaker 2: out there that are saying, why not run it back?

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Speaker 5: Because of that very much that very same reason.

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Speaker 2: Let's get Mike McCarthy, Let's get Mike Zimmer back into

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Speaker 2: the fold, and then maybe we can take this thing

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Speaker 5: Maybe you sign a free agent or two.

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Speaker 2: Even though I know the groundwork is already being laid

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Speaker 2: for another disappointing off season of spending. However, I don't like. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm far off from active disappointment from.

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Speaker 2: That mindset, I'm not far off from that because at

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Speaker 2: And the cards that were dealt and the team that

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Speaker 5: Before a lot of these injuries hit.

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Speaker 2: But I still find it hard to believe that you're

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Speaker 9: I think the one guy that it was it's tough

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Speaker 5: There might be a name out there. There might be.

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Speaker 8: I think the one guy that was, the one guy

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Speaker 5: And see now in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

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Speaker 9: Quite possible. Okay, I think that's the one guy with that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm final too. I didn't want that either.

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Speaker 7: That was that was not on my list.

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Speaker 9: No, No, I was not yours.

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Speaker 7: But I'm vocal about that.

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Speaker 6: I'd like, there are there are other options, and I'm

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Speaker 6: of McCarthy. Sure Carthy was to be moved on from,

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Speaker 7: He was not it for me.

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Speaker 9: Keep saying here, no, and granted I think that's our opinion.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that was the opinion of their opinion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they.

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Speaker 2: Start naming names, right you start, You start throwing out

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Speaker 2: And it's one of those grass ain't greener on the

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Speaker 5: Remember, they lost.

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Speaker 2: Two defensive starters this past week and had one of

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Speaker 9: Now it changes a bit.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I'm there anymore.

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Speaker 8: It changes quite a bit when you're able to galvanize

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Speaker 5: That's been the most impressive part of this whole season.

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Speaker 6: You're three to one in your last four despite continued

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Speaker 6: Right, So when you when you look at the back

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Speaker 9: Probably Okay, there's a good chance.

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Speaker 5: You lose two of your last three or all of

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Speaker 6: What if you take two of the last three and

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Speaker 6: three playoff team Huge? Then it circles back to what

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Speaker 6: we talked about a couple of weeks ago. Would we

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Speaker 6: be comfortable bringing back McCarthy. I said, you'd split the

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Speaker 6: difference on that, and my answer would then be yes,

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Speaker 6: not necessarily a five year, but you give me a

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Speaker 6: I would be fine with that if you finish out strong,

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Speaker 6: I think that you really have to justifiably entertain keeping

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Speaker 5: A lot of hypothetical still to be had.

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Speaker 2: If they lose the last three games, it's not going

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to NEBBI and Silver Stream, Silver Spring, Maryland. NEBBI,

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Speaker 5: What's going on? My friend?

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Speaker 10: Hi, guys, thank you so much for taking my call. Listen,

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Speaker 10: I just want to say, first of all, what is

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Speaker 10: I I I in time for him to play against

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Speaker 10: And just so you know, I am only bringing this

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Speaker 10: I'm hoping that we win out so that if nothing else,

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Speaker 10: we will have a winning season. Take care, Thank you

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Speaker 10: so much for being patient with me, and have a

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Speaker 10: great week. Bye.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Thanks Navy, Love you man. Uh, Nabby noseball always

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Speaker 2: I think we all kind of shared that same sentiment,

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Speaker 7: Scrap scraped that speculation.

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Speaker 2: The only people talking about it are the people in

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Speaker 8: Know, and honestly with it the same here before the

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Speaker 5: It's intriguing because there's there's gonna be a whole.

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Speaker 9: Because you work how much you can you get such

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Speaker 7: It was neverharsal Walk.

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Speaker 8: It was never his talent that was in doubt for me.

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Speaker 8: It was it was the leadership for me. But man

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Speaker 6: Now you hear Micah in the season like this, and

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Speaker 7: So that's my on that.

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Speaker 6: As far as Cooper bebe, I will not, cannot, shall

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Speaker 6: not speculate on concussion protocol. We just know that he's

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Speaker 6: are better odds that he'll take the field Sunday Night

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Speaker 7: Cowboys that make that determination, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and I completely agree. I think there's there's

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Speaker 2: was some I'm gonna I'm gonna hold this one close

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Speaker 5: But I think you can anticipate him being back this week.

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Speaker 2: I really there's a time shot to be back, and

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Speaker 2: it's a Sunday night game.

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Speaker 5: They don't have to make. It's all.

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Speaker 2: It's not a decision, right, it's not before a travel

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Speaker 9: Don't take brock Offman off the field.

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Speaker 7: Well you can't because you don't even you don't have Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Final final thing on on Ben Johnson and what he brings.

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Speaker 2: Since Neddie brought him up, he would be a name

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Speaker 2: high on the.

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Speaker 7: List of that's favable you would.

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Speaker 9: Hope sign for me.

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Speaker 7: Where I was saying, Belichick was not on my list.

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson there is up there, but again this is

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Speaker 2: all just speculation, and Neddy brought.

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Speaker 7: Him up first, and we were find a fan.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Brian in Kansas City. Brian, you're on

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Speaker 2: Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning Brian. How are you hey?

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Speaker 10: Doing excellence? A little cold up here, but you know, hey,

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Speaker 10: this is not the Mickey Spagnola weather Report.

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Speaker 7: We'll move on.

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Speaker 5: That's a favorite, no kidding. Hey, So I got two

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Speaker 10: This is kind of going forward. You know. Now I'm trying.

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Speaker 6: I'm watching the Cowboys for you know, what can I

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Speaker 10: So I have a question, if it was you, not.

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Speaker 11: Not, what do you think the Cowboys are going to

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Speaker 7: Three guys?

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Speaker 12: If it was you, would you keep brock k Hoffman at center.

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Speaker 11: And put bb guard is natural position?

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Speaker 5: Gods, talk to your evil question.

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Speaker 7: I know I have an evil cackle.

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Speaker 11: After I was waiting, I was waiting on Jazz to

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Speaker 11: give me a drop for it.

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Speaker 10: I didn't have I didn't have it ready.

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Speaker 7: Some people just like to see the world burn.

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Speaker 10: Anyway, that's my question. You all all hang up and listen,

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Speaker 10: have a great one.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate Brian.

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Speaker 7: It is interesting.

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Speaker 5: I mean brock who.

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Speaker 2: The question then comes down in that scenario is who

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Speaker 9: I like brock Hoffman on the field, and that's that's fine,

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Speaker 9: that's here.

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Speaker 7: I am with it.

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Speaker 6: As long as he's on the field. Then I like

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Speaker 2: And you're seeing the versatility right now because of it,

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting question.

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Speaker 2: It is because you can go into the off season

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Speaker 9: I don't think you do it. I don't think you

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Speaker 5: I don't think so either, but it would be interesting.

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Speaker 9: But I don't hate either option. No, I really don't.

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Speaker 8: I think there are both solid options, But to me,

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Speaker 9: Way to keep brock Hoffman on the face.

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Speaker 2: And remember, genuinely, BB did beat brock Hoffman quickly because

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Speaker 5: Brock Coffin's gonna win this job.

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Speaker 2: Brock's gonna win this Cooper b B struggling, he can't

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Speaker 8: You want him next to BB, you want you want

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Speaker 6: Think we're all in agreement, including Brian. We want in

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Speaker 6: keep BB at center, brockaff Min at guard and Prosper.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed. I like it though. I like provoking conversations

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Speaker 2: like that too. You mean evil questions, baby, We're gonna

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Speaker 5: More talking Tuesday. We're only two callers in.

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Speaker 5: go to Josh in Chicago. Josh, you're on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how you doing today?

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Speaker 5: Great?

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Speaker 9: How are you Someboddy?

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Speaker 11: Not bad? Not bad at all. So just real quick

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Speaker 11: on the coaches. I just want to say I kind

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Speaker 11: of agree with Patrick. If Mike comes back, and I'm

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Speaker 11: talking about Mike McCarthy, I'm giving him like a two

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Speaker 11: year window, nothing longer. And I honestly I don't mind

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Speaker 11: that I thought it should have been done before the

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Speaker 11: season started. I think, you know, three twelve and five.

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Speaker 11: I get it, he didn't make it to the NFC

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Speaker 11: Championship playoffs struggles, but you know, the thirty year drought

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Speaker 11: isn't his fault alone. The other thing I have to

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Speaker 11: say is if we do move on there, I think,

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Speaker 11: you know, Zim kind of had some struggles with the

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Speaker 11: defense early, and I wonder how much they believe in him.

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Speaker 11: But you know, say his name and he appears. I

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Speaker 11: believe in Al Harris.

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Speaker 7: He just give us the Joe Hendry I love.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I know you guys would like that.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, we love ourselves some Mal Harris on

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Speaker 5: this show.

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Speaker 7: No, he hit us with the with the the Joe.

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Speaker 2: I like Al Harris as a defensive coordinator, That's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I know that, Joe.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I would love to see Al Harris as a

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Speaker 11: defensive coordinator. But honestly, I think he's a culture guy

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Speaker 11: and I think the team believes in him. I wouldn't

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Speaker 11: mind seeing him in the head coach role either.

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Speaker 10: That's just me. I'll hang up on to yell too.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Josh, appreciate that chaos, My man, Josh, that's two

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Speaker 2: chaos grenades in a row.

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Speaker 5: This is good. This is good.

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Speaker 2: Start Cooper, do it it out these guys crazy.

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Speaker 7: But no, we did. We did talk. We talked about

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Speaker 7: the DC conversation.

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Speaker 6: As far as I do believe Al Harris qualifies for

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Speaker 6: defensive coordinator, and I believe that going into this season

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Speaker 6: before they brought Mike Zimmer in, Al Harris was my

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Speaker 6: my front runner, my lead horse to get that role.

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Speaker 6: And you know, obviously they went with reunion with Mike Zimmer,

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Speaker 6: but that doesn't change even with Mike Zimmer, you know,

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Speaker 6: turning the corner on the back end of the season

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Speaker 6: with the defensive pieces that he has, and they are

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Speaker 6: in pieces right now, shambles if you will, I'm still

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Speaker 6: you know, if they're having the DC conversation, for me,

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Speaker 6: it's still Al Harris, okay, versus Mike Zimmer. But you

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Speaker 6: do not take Al Harris out of that DC conversation

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Speaker 6: for Dallas, especially if you want to keep him in

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Speaker 6: the building, because I think I feel like, given his talent,

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Speaker 6: giving how other teams are going to view him and

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Speaker 6: his ability to develop, if you don't give him a

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Speaker 6: bigger role that he got the assistant head coach. But

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Speaker 6: if you maybe don't give him his own defense, you

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Speaker 6: got to ask yourself, will someone else do it?

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Speaker 7: Like what Seattle did with eight and dirty.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing when you look at this team

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Speaker 2: and you look at them from the outside end, by

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Speaker 2: the way, give us a call eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: five two two ninety seven. If you look at this

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Speaker 2: team from the outside looking in, with all of the injuries,

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Speaker 2: all of the adversity that you've seen from a roster standpoint,

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Speaker 2: who are the guys next man up? Mentality that we've

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Speaker 2: talked about the most. Josh Butler Amonio will warr you.

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Speaker 6: I'm continuing on with Day Carson before he got hurt.

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Speaker 5: I know he kind of had some rough patches. Gosh,

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Speaker 5: I forgot about Kayln Carson. That's another name.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was a yeah, yeah, just thinking about it,

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Speaker 2: you got a lot of him again on the radar

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Speaker 2: early people.

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Speaker 5: Let's say one Day.

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Speaker 2: Thomas, all these guys, I mean, these guys that have

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Speaker 2: stepped up, Mark Spell before he got hurt, all these

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Speaker 2: guys that have stepped up in a big way, who

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Speaker 2: are they under the umbrella.

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Speaker 9: Of one Al Harris.

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Speaker 2: So if there's one piece of coaching and one element

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Speaker 2: of coaching that you're confident in on that defensive side. Sure,

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Speaker 2: you've had a lot of rotating in that front sevens

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Speaker 2: playing better, and there's a lot of credit that deserves

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Speaker 2: to go upfront to at least over the last three

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Speaker 2: games consistently throughout the season, when when, when, for lack

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Speaker 2: of a better term, when the crap has hit the fan,

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Speaker 2: you've had Al Harris step up and these guys have

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Speaker 2: responded in a big way despite a revolving door at

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Speaker 2: corner and revolving door at safety at different times this year.

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Speaker 9: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: And of course it wasn't until the defensive line sort

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Speaker 8: of became intact, when you actually had depth there, that

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Speaker 8: it actually all started to click. And you all a

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Speaker 8: lot of that to Michael Parsons, but again a lot

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Speaker 8: to Al Harris as well.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's really night and day.

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Speaker 8: And I'm my fear is that if it's the same

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Speaker 8: crew next year, if it's Mike McCarthy, if it's Mike Zimmerg,

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Speaker 8: you don't get Al Harris because he is going to

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Speaker 8: take that next step.

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Speaker 2: In order for somebody to pluck him, he would have

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Speaker 2: to be a defensive coordinator, right, yeah, because that's the only.

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Speaker 9: Other promotion he can get along the way. Okay, good enough?

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Speaker 2: Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven.

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Speaker 2: We had a couple of lines open. I think they

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Speaker 2: both dropped.

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Speaker 6: So what do you there? Prepared to throw those chaos grenades?

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Speaker 9: I stole somebody's call, That's what it was.

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Speaker 5: Was that what it.

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Speaker 2: Eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. The

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Speaker 2: phone lines are open? Uh, going into this matchup, of

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Speaker 2: course tomorrow we're going to preview Cowboys defense going up

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Speaker 2: against the Tampa Bay offense.

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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay's looking pretty good.

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Speaker 6: They are looking protect offenses with the return of Mike

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Speaker 6: Evans from injury.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they are doing some things.

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Speaker 9: Mike conversation, Yes, I think you should.

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Speaker 7: How could he not be?

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Speaker 9: I don't know how he couldn't be.

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Speaker 6: Mike Evans, he's about to have He's had a thousand

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Speaker 6: yards years every year since Moses parted the Rids seat. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Mike Evans is one hundred.

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Speaker 2: He would have eleven and this would this would be

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Speaker 2: if he ends up even with the injury in the

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Speaker 2: ir stint, he only needs like one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and thirty yards.

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Speaker 8: It's a no brainer to be But what what is

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Speaker 8: the devil's advocate here? Why wouldn't he make the hall?

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Speaker 6: There's only one devil's advocate. Oh he doesn't have a ring,

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Speaker 6: that's always he does have a ring. Oh yeah, he does,

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Speaker 6: right with that's pretty so then there is no.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he hasn't won.

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Speaker 2: Actually forgot, he hasn't been But yeah, he's won a

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Speaker 2: ring and he's done it. He's done everything that you're

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Speaker 2: we're talking about here over those ten seasons, just made

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Speaker 2: a number of quarterbacks. He's done it with Jameis Winston. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's done it with god knows who was in between

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Speaker 2: Jameis Winston and Tom Brady. He's done it with Baker Mayfield. Now,

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Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter who's throwing on the football, he's

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Speaker 2: still doing it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He may not be like a first ballot guy. It

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Speaker 2: may not be like immediate, like lock first ball.

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Speaker 6: He should be though, because think about this, that's tough.

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Speaker 6: He is in the same breath. Although I would argue

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Speaker 6: statistically a little bit greater than a couple of the

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Speaker 6: names I'm about to say, Andre Johnson, right, not first ballot,

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Speaker 6: But no, my point is Hall of Famer. So in

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Speaker 6: the conversation of Hall of Famer, Mike Evis is a

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Speaker 6: Hall of Famer. Now, if you want to push Mike

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Speaker 6: Evans over to the first ballot over Andre Johnson, you say, well,

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Speaker 6: he has a ring Mike Evans does.

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Speaker 7: And look at the consistency.

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Speaker 6: Year in year out, year in year out, no matter

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Speaker 6: who the quarterback has been, right, and then the other name.

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Speaker 7: It just escaped me.

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Speaker 6: There was another one, Oh Megatron, Right, So Megatron is there.

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Speaker 6: You go, he's going to be in and he doesn't

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Speaker 6: have the jewelry that that Mike Evans has.

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Speaker 5: So but he had more status.

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Speaker 6: Not get what you're saying, but that's the air. So

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Speaker 6: Andre Johnson, Megatron, and Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans is a top eight wide receiver all time,

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Speaker 2: all time, all time. I couldn't say that there have

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Speaker 2: only been seven first ballot wide receivers that's all time, Yeah, cause.

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Speaker 9: I only the last two are Randy Mass and Calvin Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Paul Warfield, that's Raymond Berry.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's a good point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the only thing I have.

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Speaker 7: That's a good point.

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Speaker 5: And he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 15: This is.

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Speaker 7: This day evening.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's go I love this. How about this.

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Speaker 5: Let's go all the way out to the great state

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Speaker 5: of Alaska.

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Speaker 2: Hey, John's warm.

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Speaker 7: Let's go Codd Country.

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Speaker 5: What's the tip out there?

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Speaker 12: Temperature right now is nineteen degrees.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's not too bad. Yeah, that's a warm summer

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Speaker 5: day up there.

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Speaker 8: You were just saw cold cases in your free time

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Speaker 8: like that just seems like a thing to do.

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Speaker 9: You're just in true detective always.

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Speaker 6: Is it true that vampires come out during the months the.

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Speaker 7: Sun doesn't run. We've been watching too many movies.

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Speaker 5: Three sunlight, three hours of sunlight. That's all you've got

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Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 12: Oh I'm exaggerating a little bit.

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Speaker 5: What's going on? You're on talking cowboys.

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Speaker 12: Good to have you, John, Thanks first time. Color.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate he absolutely, what's on your mind?

670
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Speaker 12: So just so you know, I get up at six

671
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Speaker 12: am every morning to listen to you guys talk.

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Speaker 9: Love you, appreciate, appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 12: So uh, I'm still in the realm of blowing this,

675
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 12: blowing this up. And the reason for that is number one,

676
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 12: this team is supposed to be reaching for championships, and

677
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 12: even though We've had twelve wins every year, which is

678
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 12: fantastic in and of itself. We haven't gotten any depth

679
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 12: into the playoffs and that's concerned for me. Also, the

680
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 12: other part is I still see concerns in the offense,

681
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 12: UH that are kind of traits that aren't don't seem

682
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 12: to be disappearing, such as not committing to the run

683
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 12: when the game is close or we're slightly behind. So

684
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Speaker 12: I I would love to see somebody else then Johnson

685
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Speaker 12: on my list, but I think we've missed out on

686
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Speaker 12: a lot of other of the up and comer offensive

687
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 12: gurus that might be out there, like the Shan mcvay's

688
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 12: or the Kyle Shanahan. As far as the Parsons trade,

689
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Speaker 12: I think we need to be honest a little bit.

690
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Speaker 12: Parsons is not big enough to hold up throughout the

691
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Speaker 12: entire season, and that's a concern. We need to figure

692
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Speaker 12: out how to preserve him for later in the season,

693
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Speaker 12: but I don't think it's worth trading him. If we did,

694
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Speaker 12: then it would have to be for our players such

695
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Speaker 12: as Miles Garrett type. In my opinion, you got to

696
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Speaker 12: get somebody bigger and stronger and can hold up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, or just a huge haul of draft picks. John.

698
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Speaker 5: We appreciate your call. What part of Alaska are you in.

699
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Speaker 12: I'm about an hour north of Anchorage in a town

700
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Speaker 12: called Palmer.

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Speaker 2: Oh, very cool. Well, we appreciate you listening. We appreciate

702
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: your support as always. Thanks for giving us a call.

703
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Speaker 2: Make sure and call next time, too, great call.

704
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Speaker 7: We love Alaska.

705
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Speaker 6: I've been up there, Yeah, I remember you went. We

706
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Speaker 6: were talking about the one of the things on my

707
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Speaker 6: boocke lists I want to do with you want her

708
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Speaker 6: to hold to Alaska. It's just it's just the scenery

709
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Speaker 6: and I've not been able to experience it, but just

710
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Speaker 6: seeing it in video in images, the scenery is just.

711
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Speaker 7: Again Alaska.

712
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Speaker 2: What did you think about Mica there at the end,

713
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Speaker 2: I get what he's trying to say, and I think

714
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Speaker 2: he's meaning straight injury concerns in terms of not big enough.

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Speaker 9: Well, if you look at his resume the past few

716
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 9: numbers die.

717
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Speaker 5: The numbers die December January.

718
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Speaker 9: They dive exactly exactly when you need him.

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Speaker 5: So I get the concern.

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Speaker 8: But you see him working on his conditioning in the

721
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Speaker 8: off season. I don't think necessarily that's a big part

722
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Speaker 8: of it. I mean it's it's in the evidence, right,

723
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 8: You've seen it. At least this season. I'm seeing different

724
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons, and I alluded to that earlier in this episode.

725
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Speaker 8: I really think you want to see this on this

726
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 8: team for the foreseeable future. If he decides to improve

727
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 8: his physique or endurance or whatever it is, I'm all

728
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Speaker 8: for whatever he wants to do, because I think he's

729
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Speaker 8: making the right decisions.

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Speaker 5: Now.

731
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Speaker 8: Got to be to his point about Mike McCarthy wanted

732
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Speaker 8: to blow it up. I completely understand where's coming from,

733
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Speaker 8: because you know, those five lossuits in a row.

734
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 9: That was not fun. That was not fun.

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Speaker 2: That was the lowest I remember covering the Cowboys. That's

736
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: the lowest I've been here since twenty nineteen. So, dude,

737
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Speaker 2: I'm one hundredercent and.

738
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Speaker 5: A Cowboys fan all my life and same.

739
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Speaker 9: Year since I started watching.

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Speaker 8: I don't think I've ever felt as poorly as I

741
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 8: have about the team. Correct, however, he brought up, you know,

742
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 8: missing out on coaches like Sean mcgay was so young.

743
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Speaker 6: But for those of us that have experienced nineteen eighty nine,

744
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 6: you know, but that's.

745
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Speaker 2: Part of the intrigue that I have now is the

746
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: fact that they were able to dig out of that

747
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 2: even with what they.

748
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Speaker 8: Had exactly, and he's talking about missing out like coaches

749
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Speaker 8: like Sean McVay, the coaching San Francisco.

750
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Speaker 9: What's his name, Kyle Shannon, Kyle Shannan, Shannan.

751
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 7: Tree, right, the guy who lost his lucking room.

752
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Speaker 8: He hasn't won a Super Bowl for one And if

753
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 8: you look at the last you know five ten coaches

754
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 8: that won Super Bowl. I mean only Sean McVay is

755
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 8: in that conversation. As far as terms of young head

756
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 8: young head coaches, you saw the Andy Reids, you saw

757
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 8: have the Bruce Arians.

758
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Speaker 9: Who were winning and dang it, Bill, I know right.

759
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Speaker 8: So to me, man, it's they're hot names, right, They're

760
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 8: hot young names. That's that's basically it. That's what you're

761
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Speaker 8: looking at right now.

762
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Speaker 2: Ask the girl at the ball, Ask New Orleans how

763
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: that's working out. Ask Miami how it's working out. It's

764
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: always fun for a little bit, but until you have

765
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: the ups and the downs and you can work your

766
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Speaker 2: way out of it. That's why like Sean McVay, like

767
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Speaker 2: you said, he's on that list as a Super Bowl

768
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Speaker 2: winning head coach. Absolutely, he's done it before, but they

769
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: sold out for that and now he's having to go

770
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: through the back half of that and he's coaching his

771
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Speaker 2: way out.

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Speaker 5: That's what's impressive to me for Sean mack hey.

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Speaker 9: He's a great coach. Yeah, no doubt about it.

774
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Speaker 7: Careful falling for the hot girl at the bar exactly. That.

775
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 8: That's where I'm at, man, because it is one thing

776
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 8: to win a lot during the season, which we have

777
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 8: been doing as of late. Not this season, but we

778
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 8: have done as of late, and it's about getting over

779
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 8: that hump, which we have not been able to do

780
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Speaker 8: in thirty years.

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Speaker 9: And what another caller alluded to before is that.

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Speaker 5: It's not his fault.

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Speaker 8: How's that on Mike? How can you blame thirty five

784
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Speaker 8: plus years on Mike?

785
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Speaker 2: That's the unfortunate side of it, though. That's the unfortunate

786
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: side of it. It's not their fault. It's not Mike's fault,

787
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: it's not the player's fault, it's not all of these guys' fault.

788
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Speaker 5: But it's still going to fall on their shoulders, correct,

789
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: I get it.

790
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: The thirty years of disappointment on this franchise is still

791
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: going to fall on their shoulders. And every year that

792
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: they don't get it done and they don't go to

793
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Speaker 2: an NFC Championship game, and they don't go to a

794
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, that weight gets heavier and heavier on their

795
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: shoulders until somebody is strong enough to carry it across

796
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Speaker 2: the finish line.

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Speaker 6: And I want to say this part I definitely agree with.

798
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 6: There are some tendencies that I see with in the

799
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 6: McCarthy regime that I still would like to see changed,

800
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 6: and they've not changed quickly for me, so I'm starting

801
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 6: to see them turn the corner. Example being now Cavante

802
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 6: Turpin is getting more involved in the offensive play card. Right,

803
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 6: but year five, what took this so long?

804
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Speaker 7: Right?

805
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 6: So you have those types of questions, and then, like

806
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 6: he said, sometimes they get away from the run. That's

807
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 6: the same thing that Mike McCarthy used to be infuriated

808
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 6: by Kellen Moore about getting away from the running situations

809
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 6: where you have the lead, you can use the clock,

810
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 6: you're running the ball effectively, and then you pass past

811
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 6: past That's the most Kellen.

812
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 7: Morrish thing to do.

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00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 6: But then you see McCarthy do it sometimes over the

814
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Speaker 6: past couple of seasons. So in that capacity, I understand

815
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 6: and I agree I would like to see those things change.

816
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 6: But again, we're not sitting here saying that if McCarthy

817
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 6: is retained, to give him a ten year deal or

818
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 6: even a five year deal. My stance is that if

819
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 6: you retain him two years right with an out after

820
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 6: the first year, let them get his guys back. If

821
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Speaker 6: the Cowboys continue to finish this season strong, because given

822
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Speaker 6: the level of adversity that they've had, how on earth

823
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Speaker 6: could we be sitting here even talking about what we're

824
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Speaker 6: talking about.

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Speaker 7: That's what's mind blowing to me in a positive way.

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Speaker 9: And if you lose all the next three I think

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Speaker 9: the conversation.

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Speaker 7: In the conversation, it becomes a little bit more organic.

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Speaker 5: I think it changes slightly. I don't think it changes

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Speaker 5: the way that it did.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't. It doesn't it off the table. Yeah, I

832
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Speaker 6: think it does turn the knob a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It does it turn It turns it back because losing,

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Speaker 2: you know, is the problem. I mean, that's part of it,

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Speaker 2: all right. We got to take another break. When we

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Speaker 2: got Josh Rodriguez, We've got Patrick Noci Walker and Kyle

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Speaker 2: Yeoman's time now to go to Jesse in Iowa. Talking

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Speaker 2: Tuesday continues. Jesse, what's going on?

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Speaker 11: You?

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Speaker 10: Wah?

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Speaker 12: I'm morning from Iowa.

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Speaker 10: Y'all.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Jesse. How are you?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic.

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Speaker 11: It's nisan frosty up here in Iowa.

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Speaker 5: What's the temperature there?

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Speaker 11: It's a twenty two degrees you're almost Alaska.

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Speaker 9: Terrorist emmants you might as well.

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Speaker 7: Get might as well be in Alaska.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, seems pretty good difference. What's going on, Jesse? What's

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Speaker 5: on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey? First time caller?

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Speaker 7: Man, Thank y'all fort on.

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Speaker 10: Such a good show.

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 7: I think I'm the only Dallas Cowboys saying in Iowa.

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Speaker 6: So when you hold down the ford up there, guarantee

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Speaker 6: you're not actually.

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Speaker 5: So that's You've got some people around you, which is good.

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Speaker 6: Plant your flag and codd.

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Speaker 18: Hey, do you all think Osa is playing himself out

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Speaker 18: of Dallas?

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Speaker 7: A good question? Talkout?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for the call, Jesse, good call, good question.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that it's it's a possibility. Let's let's

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Speaker 6: speak objectively, it's a possibility. It is difficult to find

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Speaker 6: an impact DT in this league, but when you're talking

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Speaker 6: about one who can also impact the game, both as

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Speaker 6: a run defender and most certainly as a disruptor in

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Speaker 6: the backfield against quarterbacks, sex pressures and things like that

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Speaker 6: quarterback hits.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Osa is indeed increasing.

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Speaker 6: The odds by his play that he will He may

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Speaker 6: not be in Dallas, but I would I would counter

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Speaker 6: with this, and this is not just me speaking objectively,

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Speaker 6: but this is also me having had conversation with Osa.

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Speaker 7: He wants hope.

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Speaker 6: In his mind, he's playing himself into a new deal

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Speaker 6: in Dallas. So that that's the way that you should

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Speaker 6: kind of look at it, if you want to look

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Speaker 6: at it through Osa's standpoint. And again this is with

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Speaker 6: me having had several conversations with him. He wants to

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Speaker 6: remain in Dallas and he's hopefully playing himself into that contract.

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Speaker 6: And also keep in mind, this isn't new for Osa.

942
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Speaker 6: I know we're talking about him a lot lately, but

943
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Speaker 6: go look at his last couple of seasons. He's just

944
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Speaker 6: been getting better every single week, every single game. Had

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Speaker 6: a slow start this to this season, as you know,

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Speaker 6: the unit trying to figure out the Mike zimmersis.

947
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Speaker 9: And for lack of health and for lack of.

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Speaker 6: Help, but now it's coming together. So yeah, odds are

949
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Speaker 6: there's a chance Osa gets a much heftier offer somewhere else,

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Speaker 6: but there are equal odds that he wants to remain

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Speaker 6: in Dallas and he will give the Cowboys every opportunity

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Speaker 6: to retain him.

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Speaker 8: My thing about Osa, and we talked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 8: I brought up an evil question, I said, which is

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Speaker 8: if you could bring back Osa, Jordan Lewis, it's it's

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Speaker 8: for me, it's probably one or the other. But if

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Speaker 8: you do sign OSA, you're going to lose somebody very

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Speaker 8: crucial to this team.

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Speaker 5: Probably, uh and just because a piece of.

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Speaker 8: Just exactly look down the list. You have de Mark

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Speaker 8: Lawrence coming up, you have Jordan Lewis coming up. You

962
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Speaker 8: have a lot of integral players to this defense of team.

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Speaker 5: You're eating a lot of it.

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Speaker 7: I don't hear about this impacted there They're gonna be started.

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Speaker 9: Sorry, did I interrupt you?

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Speaker 7: Guys?

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Speaker 5: Sorry?

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Speaker 6: Sorry, the cool world they heard you.

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Speaker 7: We were background talking.

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Speaker 5: They heard the pie. The pie is there, and the

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Speaker 5: pie has been kicked.

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Speaker 2: That ten has been kicked down the road, and it's

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Speaker 2: a bigger and bigger piece of pie that you continued

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Speaker 2: to take away.

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Speaker 5: And that would just be another one.

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Speaker 6: Mostly I agree with I'm not getting much salary cap

977
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Speaker 6: soap bucks another day.

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Speaker 9: It's still there.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the evil questions NFL leaders in quarterback hits

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Speaker 2: over the last seven weeks. And this is Kurt of

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Speaker 2: A Bobby Belt Friend of the Show tied for third,

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons, Dalvin Tomlinson, t J. Watt, I'll have thirteen.

983
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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is in second with fifteen. This is over

984
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Speaker 2: the last seven weeks of the year. Quarterback hits.

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Speaker 5: Osa Odiggezuoa leads the.

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Speaker 2: NFL with sixteen quarterback hits over those four names t J. Watt,

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Speaker 2: Dalvin Tomlinson, Michael Parsons and Miles Garrett. If he were

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Speaker 2: to play like this all year long, he would be

989
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Speaker 2: in an all pro level. He would be on his

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Speaker 2: way to a mega, mega deal, and there would be

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Speaker 2: no way that he is in Dallas. So maybe there's

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Speaker 2: a shot that it's only the last seven weeks of

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 6: Lets just hope he really likes he will know properly

995
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Speaker 6: he will be a Tier B free agent coming this offseason.

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Speaker 7: Which is still going right now.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean, as it stands, if he continues this,

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Speaker 6: then he'll bump Yeah, he'll bump up in a.

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Speaker 8: Tier Start's Armstrong got paid in the off season, you

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Speaker 8: know what I'm saying like that, and he was not

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Speaker 8: the contributor to the overpay. Yeah, of course, so this

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Speaker 8: man will get a bag regardless, and I hope it's here.

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Speaker 6: I do too, gosh, I, like I said, also will

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Speaker 6: give the Cowboys every opportunity and then some to keep

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Speaker 6: him in Dallas also wants to stay in Dallas.

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Speaker 7: Agreed.

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Speaker 2: All right, last caller of the day. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Jordan in Dallas. Jordan, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Lewis?

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Speaker 10: Hello?

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Speaker 7: Okay, this is this isn't Jordan?

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Speaker 5: Lewis right? Wis as part of it? Jordan, we got you.

1013
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 18: He actually kind of fits into my question. But first

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Speaker 18: I wanted to say, I've been listening to you guys

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Speaker 18: since twenty twenty one. Yes, and famous favorite show by

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Speaker 18: far and what's weird? I was just thinking about it.

1018
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Speaker 18: I kind of don't have the same story as most

1019
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Speaker 18: football people. I didn't listen to I didn't play football,

1020
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Speaker 18: I didn't like football. And then I was dancing around

1021
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Speaker 18: with my baby trying to put her asleep in twenty

1022
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Speaker 18: twenty one, and the Cowboys came on with Dak playing

1023
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 18: against the Tampa Buccaneers the opener, and it was such

1024
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 18: a good game. I became a fan. Uh And I

1025
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Speaker 18: started looking for, you know, shows to figure out how

1026
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 18: to how to understand the game, and I found you guys,

1027
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Speaker 18: And now I'm going to my first game next week.

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Speaker 5: That's awesome, good stuff.

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Speaker 7: That's full circle because it's Tampa.

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Speaker 18: Bay it is and my brother in law of a

1031
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 18: huge vicer Mayfield fan. So we're gonna go together.

1032
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 7: And it's gonna be.

1033
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 18: Probably pretty rough.

1034
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 7: You're hoping to ruin his Christmas with you.

1035
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Speaker 2: Jordan's right, So the barring weather, it's gonna be a

1036
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: little chilli out there, but we're gonna be out on

1037
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: the plaza, uh for Cowboys pregame live. It'll be me, Isaiah, Barry, Nate.

1038
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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll try and get Josh and Patrick out of

1039
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: the press box to come say hi, Say hi. We're

1040
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Speaker 2: eight t East Plaza. It's back where the big mirror is.

1041
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: You will be out there on the stage where like

1042
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: the cheerleaders and the Rhythm and Blue dancers are.

1043
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 5: Come say hi. Because that's awesome. Man. I love to

1044
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 5: like that.

1045
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, come come stop me and and if if

1046
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Speaker 2: you get my attention, say like, hey, it's Jordan I

1047
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: called on Tuesday, like that kind of thing, and we'll

1048
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Speaker 2: make it happen. That's awesome, man. I appreciate you hearing that.

1049
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Speaker 2: Did you did you have a question before.

1050
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 5: We let you go?

1051
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I've had a question about the DVS. What

1052
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 18: do you guys think personally. We were just talking about

1053
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 18: about Al Harris and how amazing he's been with all

1054
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 18: the dvs, and something I've been super impressed with all

1055
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 18: season is watching all these no name guys come off

1056
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 18: the bench and kind of blow my mind. And they

1057
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 18: come out and I'm expecting this to be a terrible,

1058
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 18: terrible game like it was last year, and each time,

1059
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Speaker 18: most of the time, other than a couple, they've they've

1060
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Speaker 18: stepped up. And my question is between mccuamu over Wier

1061
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Speaker 18: Butler Carson, who would your pick be for the first

1062
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 18: guy off the bench if any of our starters are

1063
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Speaker 18: not available next year, because some of them have been

1064
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 18: really impressed. So I want to hear what you guys.

1065
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Speaker 2: No, that's a great question, Jordan, thanks for the call

1066
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Speaker 2: as always and the support.

1067
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Speaker 5: You want to start it and so forth.

1068
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Speaker 6: Would have loved to see him be able to finish

1069
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Speaker 6: out the season see if he can build.

1070
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Speaker 7: On what he showed us. But it's Josh Butler, the Butler.

1071
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Speaker 7: Josh Butler did it was that the boat tie?

1072
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Butler did with the candlestick in the in the library.

1073
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Speaker 7: Yes, okay, I'm going Josh Butler possibly.

1074
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Speaker 2: That's my answer to that would be what was the

1075
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Speaker 2: shortlist again? It was Amani Mccuamouk, Kayln Carson. It'll probably

1076
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Speaker 2: be Kayl and Carson. Just another year of seasoning. But

1077
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Speaker 2: in terms of film, out of the guys that played

1078
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Speaker 2: best on film this year, it was Josh Butler.

1079
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Speaker 9: That's fair.

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Speaker 5: Josh Butler played better than Carson.

1081
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Speaker 8: But I think the ceiling is higher obviously for a

1082
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Speaker 8: Kayln Carson. I think one more year in this defense

1083
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Speaker 8: now that everyone's starting to buy in, I think that's your.

1084
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Speaker 6: Guy also, and shouts out to Izzy Israel mccuambo, because

1085
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Speaker 6: every time he's been asked to come into the game

1086
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Speaker 6: because of an injury or whatever the case may be,

1087
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Speaker 6: he has played at minimum solid football. His floor has

1088
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Speaker 6: been solid, and then he just builds on that in

1089
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Speaker 6: certain situations like the game ceiling interceptions.

1090
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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's reliable and.

1091
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Speaker 6: He keep in mind, this is the flash who has

1092
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Speaker 6: been relegated to safety for the majority of his career.

1093
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Speaker 7: But then he gets thrown in.

1094
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Speaker 6: He gets thrown into the wildcard matchup against Tom Brady

1095
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Speaker 6: and what turned out to be tom Brady's last game

1096
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Speaker 6: and helps shut down Tom Brady as a big Nickel.

1097
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Speaker 6: It's huge after being safety the entire time. So shouts

1098
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Speaker 6: out to Izzy Mucuombo his versatility. And you talk about

1099
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Speaker 6: somebody who plays with a fire in his belly. That's

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Speaker 6: that's a guy. That's a guy.

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Speaker 5: No doubt. We'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: When only got the six callers today, but let me

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Speaker 2: tell you it was a good talk. You guys were

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Speaker 2: awesome today. These calls were fantastic.

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Speaker 7: So much chaos.

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Speaker 2: Love the chaos, love the chaos grenades. We're making it

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Speaker 2: happen here talking gobboys.

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Speaker 7: Now she finds the drop. Now she finds the drop.

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Speaker 7: Jazz is too late.

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Speaker 6: You're banned from Alaska because you didn't have the drop.

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Speaker 7: I can't go.

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Speaker 5: It's only not teen degrees. There's Sonny and.

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Speaker 7: Warm, just like you can.

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Speaker 5: For Jasmine Marshall, for Josh Rodriguez Patrick. No see Walker,

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Speaker 5: I'm KYLEI Yemans.

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Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow previewing the Dallas defense against this red

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Speaker 2: hot Tampa Bay offense. We'll be back tomorrow, See you

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Speaker 2: later on More Hockey Cowboys.

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