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Speaker 2: This is the best of Stu gottson Company Live on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Israel. Goodyerez.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to you today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what a ground to cover, my friend. We have Christopher

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Speaker 1: mad Dog Russo. Sound do you have Christopher Russo?

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Speaker 3: We have Mick cronin sound, he ejected his own player.

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Speaker 1: We have the Bleacher Reports Top ninety nine quarterbacks of

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Speaker 1: all time. We left off at number ninety. Mikey A

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Speaker 1: will take us through the eighties today.

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Speaker 4: At some point, should have stopped at ninety one.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And we have Doug mo.

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Speaker 5: Wait, actually, we don't have Doug Moo anymore.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I bring up Doug mow And by

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Speaker 1: the way, Tod McShay is going to join us in

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. I told you the first show

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Speaker 1: we did, we don't know what we're talking about, but

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Speaker 1: I have plenty of friends who do know exactly what

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Speaker 1: they're talking about. And I will give you access to

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Speaker 1: those friends when I can, And so Todd McShay is

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Speaker 1: going to join us, and he will take your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

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Speaker 5: Fox.

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Speaker 3: That is eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You are squeamish taking phone calls for my friend Tod McShay.

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Speaker 3: I can tell I didn't know he was going to

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Speaker 3: take phone calls. This makes me nervous. I'm not a

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Speaker 3: responsibility on these callers.

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain he knows he's taking phone calls, but

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Speaker 1: he's taking phone calls. Ad Nan Vurk going to join

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Speaker 1: us at four o'clock and Mike Golicks Senior going to

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Speaker 1: join us at four point thirty. We also have a

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Speaker 1: hockey game on the rare time we're doing this show

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Speaker 1: where we have a sporting event that means something to everyone.

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Speaker 1: The United States in a quarter final match in hockey.

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Speaker 1: Taken on swedeen. Mikey A's on the Zoom Tailor is

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Speaker 1: up in Port Saint Lucy. He's on assignment. He is

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Speaker 1: covering the met spring training try to figure out who

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Speaker 1: the fifth starter is going to be for the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets. Taylor, I am hesitant to go to you

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Speaker 1: now up at Port Saint Lucy. Are we any closer

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Speaker 1: to finding out who the Mets fifth starter is going

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Speaker 1: to be?

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Speaker 6: It doesn't look like it, but I'm moving towards Singer

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Speaker 4: I like that he's on assignments, so if there's any

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Speaker 4: audio problem, it's.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's in the field.

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Speaker 3: It's just no, it's no big deal. Listen.

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Speaker 1: The reason I brought up Doug Mo that news came

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Speaker 1: across our desks yesterday during the show.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a disk, and I don't know why

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Speaker 3: I said that. And we did not.

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Speaker 1: Pay proper tribute to Doug Mo. We did not send

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Speaker 1: them off with flowers. We did not eulogize him correctly.

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Speaker 1: And that's because I was stunned.

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Speaker 5: Is he right?

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Speaker 3: I thought Doug Mo had died a decade ago.

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Speaker 4: You are not alone, and I have his phone number

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Speaker 4: that you are alone. I one thousand percent either saw

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Speaker 4: the headline or heard a wonderful birthday person speak that

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Speaker 7: Because this?

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Speaker 4: And then when he said how old he was, I

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, but yes, so we have a ton of

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Speaker 1: Mickshay at nan verk. There's a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: And again, let me repeat this. Mick Cronin, who is

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Speaker 3: Then somebody trifled with him a little bit. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: You might beat Mick Cronin in the NCAA tournament, but

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. He will just keep swinging

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Speaker 7: We properly eulogize Doug mo or did we.

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Speaker 3: Just mention that we thought he was good.

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Speaker 1: I didn't do it because I thought I did it

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Speaker 3: It's not a good time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, it was more shocking than the news we

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Speaker 3: Just for me, I have Tony Clark's number as well.

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Speaker 4: Can we just do that one day? Is just have

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Speaker 4: random phone calls, make random phone calls from your phone

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because Scott Shapiro, who runs this place, runs iHeart

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Speaker 1: runs Fox Sports Radio. Is he's a good friend. He

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Speaker 1: is the reason that I have landed here, that we

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Speaker 1: have landed here. I have asked him to come on,

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Speaker 1: I think Friday, because I maintained that no one has

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Speaker 3: Then Scott Shapiro.

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Speaker 1: So I have asked him to come on, and I

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Speaker 1: want to see if we can negotiate tailor just going

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Speaker 1: through his pots attact list and grabbing whatever contacts he wants.

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Speaker 5: And this has to happen on the air.

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Speaker 4: We can't just do this on the side.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to do it on the air, Okay, I

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Speaker 7: Right, that's good radio. That's good radio.

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Speaker 3: Is he thank you? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Ask the program director, even though he's the vice president, Mikey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It'd be nice if I could see mikey A but

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Speaker 1: I can't. I could I can't see anyone right the topic.

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Speaker 7: Shay, you're sure that's your computer?

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Speaker 3: Totally how is it my computer?

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Speaker 6: What do you mean your WiFi is also terrible on

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Speaker 6: this computer?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 6: He looks perfectly fine. Yeah, they're sitting five feet apart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're broadcasting from Port Saint Lucy. I mean I

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Speaker 1: where's Todd McShay. He's coming into me. Listen your chance.

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Speaker 1: I know you're excited you get to ask about Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited because the US hockey is on. And you

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Speaker 1: know when you when you're wrap, when you wrap hockey

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Speaker 1: in the American flag, it's something that you it is.

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Speaker 7: It is right, you know it is.

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Speaker 5: It definitely is.

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Speaker 4: And Matthew could Chuck as a leader on this USA

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Speaker 4: team also gets a lot of attention because he's very good.

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Speaker 3: But he also likes to talk, and.

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Speaker 4: He recently was miked and wasn't miked up, but a

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Speaker 4: mike caught him saying trash talking as I like to

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Speaker 4: call it, because man, I am not going to call

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Speaker 4: it chirping.

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Speaker 7: I hate that so much.

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Speaker 4: We can get that to do that in a second,

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Speaker 4: he said to Leon Dreisidel. Always a bridesmaid, huh, And

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of myself first, of all.

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Speaker 3: That is terrible trash talk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, if I can think of the greatest trash

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Speaker 4: talker of all time in any sport, the first name

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Speaker 4: the best trash talker of all time. If I see

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Speaker 4: Reggie Miller or who does Clyde Drexler and saying always

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Speaker 4: or national news type of trash talk.

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Speaker 8: Welcome in, Todd mcshack.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mikey. I was hoping someone would communicate to

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Speaker 1: me because no one was. You're always there for me

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Speaker 1: the McShay show. He is with the Ringer, he's a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine and he'll take your phone calls whether

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Speaker 1: he likes it or not. Seven ninety nine on Fox.

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Speaker 1: That is eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Is

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Speaker 1: He will get to his Mendoza questions in just a second.

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Speaker 1: But let's start the most obvious place with our friend

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Speaker 1: Todd mcshae. Here McShay in a weird world, in a

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Speaker 1: strange world where you're doing a mock draft about the

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Speaker 1: worst things that you could do to your family cheating

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Speaker 1: on your wife with her her sister, or cheating on

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Speaker 1: your wife with your brother's wife. Which one would be

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Speaker 1: the number one pick in a strange draft.

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Speaker 7: You're an idiot, man. I love you too, we really are.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You get answer though, I mean that was the answer.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that is the answer to I'll go with this. Okay,

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Speaker 7: there's a couple of disclaimers.

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Speaker 9: I'm engaged. I'm getting married this summer. Wow, and congratulations Marissa.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, Marissa my fiance. She doesn't have a sister,

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Speaker 9: so but she has cousins who are very close.

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Speaker 7: They're like sisters. No, I would I'll always answer your

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Speaker 7: stupid question.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to I.

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Speaker 9: Would say, I would say cheating with a cousin rather

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Really, I mean there's a whole other layer that's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but a brother's wife. I mean that ends families, man,

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Speaker 1: It does you know? It separates families?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they all do. All those scenarios do Malissa every day?

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Speaker 7: And if I wind up her cousin.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: Todd not only did he start here, but then he

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Speaker 4: just left that there hanging for you to to somehow answer.

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Speaker 4: We need to get to some draft talk, can't we

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Speaker 4: is he did you have to answer this or no?

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Speaker 4: Fortunately I'm gay, so it's all great. But I'm sure

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he could tailor.

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Speaker 7: It for you.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm sure he can't.

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Speaker 1: If you have questions about the giraft top McShay is

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Speaker 1: with us eight seven Fox.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: It was a great start. It's it's the way the

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Speaker 1: show should start. And I love that you entertained. You

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Speaker 1: entertained me by answering the question and then really breaking

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Speaker 1: it down with cousins.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean the whole nother section. Fernando Mendoza,

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Speaker 4: who I treat as my own cousin around here here

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Speaker 4: because he's a Miami guy. I love the guy ever

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Speaker 4: since the middle of this season. Fell in love with

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Speaker 4: him as a number one pick. The Raiders aren't going

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Speaker 4: to overthink this, right because I saw something that said, hey,

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Speaker 4: maybe they might not go that way.

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Speaker 3: But it feels like.

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Speaker 5: He is in the realm of can't miss?

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Speaker 10: Is he not?

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Speaker 7: I mean, who's a can't miss?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 9: I'll say this, I think the question becomes all right,

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Speaker 9: recent drafts, where would you have him ranked? And I

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Speaker 4: It's interesting that you say that too, because if Mendoza

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Speaker 9: Uh, Fernando is more is a better runner, but win

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Speaker 9: while while this offense it wasn't it's not that he can't.

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Speaker 9: It's and it's not even like the process, I don't

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Speaker 9: I mean, look at what happened with Caleb in year

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Speaker 9: career no matter what. I'm talking more honestly, organizationally for

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Speaker 9: just want to keep perspective on how great Mendoza is,

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Speaker 3: Uh Todd, who is the best player in this draft?

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Speaker 7: It's interesting Stu Gotts, like this is a weird draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of talent in this draft.

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Speaker 9: Second round, third round, Like there's really good depth, Like

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Speaker 7: Are Jeremiah Love, the running back from Notre Dame.

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Speaker 9: Rvel Reese, who everyone's going to talk about, is an

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Speaker 9: And we saw him do a lot of it, but

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Speaker 7: So that part's interesting.

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Speaker 12: Go ahead, Hey, longtime listener, Cardinals fan. And I'm just

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, some franchises. Franchises can't ever just get it right.

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Speaker 9: The Kyler stuff is fascinating, and obviously that's the big

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Speaker 7: If it's not Maui.

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Speaker 10: NOA.

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Speaker 9: Then you go with Spencer Fano, the offensive tackle from Utah.

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Speaker 9: But I think it's going to be in the trenches

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Speaker 9: If you've heard last segment, that quarterback class next year

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Speaker 9: that's kind of the route that Arizona should take at least,

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Speaker 3: Are you expecting Kyler Murray to be a New York Jet?

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Speaker 7: I could see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay, I unfortunately right.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's I mean if they won't, if they won't

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Speaker 9: So I don't know, we'll see how it plays out,

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Speaker 9: but a lot more to fix and for the Jets,

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Speaker 9: that won't I'll be shocked if they even make an

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian who was in Rochester today, Rochester, Illinois. Brian,

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Speaker 10: And my question for Todd. Good, good afternoon.

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Speaker 11: Todd.

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Speaker 10: You've talked about.

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Speaker 5: Hank Bady on your podcast, The Pride of.

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Speaker 4: Rochester, Illinois The Rockets.

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Speaker 6: Su.

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Speaker 12: You know what he is.

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Speaker 5: He's the Swiss Army Knights.

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Speaker 7: I love as arm knife.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but Todd, does he does anybody take a take

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Speaker 5: a flyer.

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Speaker 7: On Hank Baby Listen? I I liked him. I liked

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Speaker 9: I can see in the late rounds there's a there's

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Speaker 9: a strong possibility. Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting to see,

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Speaker 9: like the Pro day, how he works out and all

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Speaker 9: those sorts of things. But he's a guy that just

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Speaker 9: for multiple and versatility, I think he's got a shot.

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Speaker 2: Todd.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking at this draft class of wide receivers because

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Speaker 8: i know my New York Jets need to take one,

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Speaker 8: and I'm looking at Tate.

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Speaker 7: I'm looking at Lemon.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking at Tyson, but you know what, Denzel Boston

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Speaker 8: really has me intrigued. Do you think he's the kind

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Speaker 8: of guy that could possibly be the best.

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Speaker 7: Of this class.

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Speaker 9: I like Tenzel Boston a lot, man, I really do.

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Speaker 9: If you're looking for the negative in his game, he

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Speaker 9: kind of like he has to gear down before he

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Speaker 9: gets in and out of his breaks, and I wonder

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Speaker 9: the NFL is that gonna cause a little problem. Now

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Speaker 9: at almost six foot five and with his frame and

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Speaker 9: his ability with contested catches and red zone effectiveness, I

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Speaker 9: think he's still gonna be a highly effective player and

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Speaker 9: a huge impact player.

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Speaker 7: This wide receiver class is loaded.

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Speaker 9: I've got ten guys right now in my top fifty

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Speaker 9: really so yeah.

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Speaker 7: So if you don't.

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Speaker 9: Address it in round one with a Carnel Tate or

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Speaker 9: a Mackay Lemon or a Jordan Tyson, which is how

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Speaker 9: I have him ranked right now, and David and Denzel

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Speaker 9: Boston right after that at number four, then in the

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Speaker 9: second round you've got another six foot four wide receiver

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Speaker 9: two hundred pounds who can absolutely fly in Chris Brazil

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Speaker 9: the second from Tennessee, or you've got Zachariah.

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Speaker 7: Branch, who's a slot who's explosive.

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Speaker 9: You've got Jeremy Bernard who who just like does every

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Speaker 9: little thing right. And I think he fits really well

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Speaker 9: in like a Shanahan type of system coming out of Alabama.

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Speaker 9: Casey concept she owned with the returnability and the run

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Speaker 9: after catch. So there's this like in Malachai Fields, another

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Speaker 9: big receiver. So you've got guys like Boston and Fields

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Speaker 9: and brasl the second like the big receivers, and then

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Speaker 9: you got a bunch of guys who were really good

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Speaker 9: after the catchup guy mentioned concept she owned, Branch, Jeremy Bernard,

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Speaker 9: so you can kind of pick between the two.

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Speaker 3: Todd.

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Speaker 4: I was wondering, uh, Ty Simpson, did you think early

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Speaker 4: in the season he would be coming out in the draft?

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Speaker 4: And then give me, like your assessment of him. Where

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Speaker 4: do we see him in this you know, light quarterback draft?

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Speaker 7: Through nine games?

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Speaker 9: Is he he was the best quarterback in the country.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 9: No one who can tell me different. Yeah, there's nobody.

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Speaker 9: I was just watching more tape of him last night.

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Speaker 9: I was actually watching Jeremy Bernard and some of the throws.

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Speaker 9: The problem is he got injured and was battling injury.

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Speaker 9: He had an offensive line that they figured out how

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Speaker 9: to beat his protections Brent Venables did. In the first

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Speaker 9: meeting against Oklahoma, he had a run game that was

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Speaker 9: non existent. I think it was like one hundred and

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Speaker 9: twenty six in the FBS, which is like this mind

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Speaker 9: blowing for an Alabama program, right, And so you canbine

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Speaker 9: all the oh and by the way, his number one

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Speaker 9: wide receiver Ryan Williams, who everyone was saying it's one

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Speaker 9: A and one B with Jeremiah Smith Ohio State and

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Speaker 9: Ryan Williams coming out. And Williams had that monster game

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Speaker 9: against Georgia as a true freshman and a really good

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Speaker 9: freshman season, he disappeared kind of like got the yips

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Speaker 9: and like lost focus and just was not all an.

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Speaker 7: Impact player for the second half of the season.

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Speaker 9: Really, So you combine all those things and it's no

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Speaker 9: wonder why.

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Speaker 7: The play started to dip.

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Speaker 9: But I'm telling you, through nine games, like the processing,

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Speaker 9: the pre snap stuff, the decision making anticipation, he's a

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Speaker 9: little bit more mobile than people want to give him credit.

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Speaker 9: He's a little bit he's got a little more juice

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Speaker 9: in his arm than people want to give him credit,

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Speaker 9: but he's only played fifteen games, and it's that's frightening

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Speaker 9: to me because that will become an outlier, right because

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Speaker 9: you think about the Trubisky Anthony Richardson. The list goes

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Speaker 9: that there's everyone who's been a first round pick with

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Speaker 9: fewer than twenty pit you know, Mark.

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Speaker 7: Going back to Marc Sanita Chez, They've all wound up failing.

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 9: Because he's a coach's son and he was at Alabama

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Speaker 9: for four years, can he overcome all of that?

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Speaker 5: Truly?

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Speaker 9: Like the only two guys that with sub thirty starts

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Speaker 9: who are really really good starting quarterbacks in the league

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Speaker 9: are superhuman. It's it's Josh Allen and it's Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 9: Everyone else is like thirty three starts or more, and

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Speaker 9: a lot of guys now are in the forties.

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Speaker 7: Fifties and sixties. So it's it's a it's a big

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Speaker 7: risk to take. I would love to see him in

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Speaker 7: the Rams Rams situation.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Stafford behind Stafford for a year, learned the offense

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Speaker 9: smart enough to pick things up on like most rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: Because of his history and growing up, you know, his

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Speaker 9: dad's a head coach for eighteen straight years at Middle

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Speaker 9: Tennessee State. I think Sean McVay would be the perfect

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Speaker 9: match for him, and they've got two first round picks.

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Speaker 9: So if it's not at thirteen, could it be at

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Speaker 9: twenty nine. We'll see how that plays out. But I'm

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Speaker 9: a big fan of Ty Simpson, but I also recognize

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Speaker 9: what the concerns are.

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Speaker 6: God, you can kind of see the impact right away

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Speaker 6: that nick A man Wary had this season for Seattle

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Speaker 6: going pick thirty five last year in the draft. Going

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Speaker 6: into this year's draft, who do you think is the

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Speaker 6: most underrated player that is not getting the attention now

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Speaker 6: but could make a similar type of impact.

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Speaker 7: I'll stick in safety.

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Speaker 9: There are two guys that I don't think like you

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Speaker 9: haven't heard their names a lot in this process, and

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Speaker 9: it's early, and we'll go to the combine and they'll

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Speaker 9: both work out well. It's Emmanuel McNeil warren from Toledo

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Speaker 9: and Dylan Theeneman from Oregon, both safeties, both versatile guys.

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Speaker 9: McNeil Warren is a guy like just watching him recently,

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Speaker 9: his it's like watching the like Our Planet on Netflix,

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Speaker 9: right like when when the stocking their prey and.

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Speaker 7: Right before contact. You don't know if they're gonna.

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Speaker 9: Go high and like work the face off or they're

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Speaker 9: gonna cut their legs out.

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Speaker 7: And that's what he does.

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Speaker 9: And it's like force fumbles, interceptions, impact tackles.

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Speaker 7: He's all over the field.

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Speaker 9: And theeneman is a guy who, like you know, Toashla

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Speaker 9: POI said, the best slot cover corner I've ever had.

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Speaker 7: And he runs in the fourth three.

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Speaker 9: I think he's gonna run in the four threes at

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Speaker 9: like you know, six foot plus and two hundred plus.

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Speaker 9: So no one's gonna have an Emon warr type of workout.

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Speaker 7: That was like, that was outrageous, right.

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Speaker 9: And and no one in this class has that kind

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Speaker 9: of frame to begin with. But those are two guys

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Speaker 9: in the league where you're now looking at all these

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Speaker 9: top defenses, whether it's Emon Worri or a Jalen Petrie,

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Speaker 9: all these top defenses have that kind of guy, a

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Speaker 9: versatile chess piece safety who can allow you to stay

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Speaker 9: in base personnel but really act like you're in nickel.

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Speaker 9: I think teams are looking for that, and I think

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Speaker 9: we could have three safeties starting with Caleb Downs from

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Speaker 9: Ohio State come off the board.

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Speaker 7: In round one, which is not, which is not a normalcy.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's quickly here go to Brent, who's in Ohio today? Brent,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on with Tom big Shay.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Todd, Hi, I was just wondering. I'm a Hawaii

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Speaker 10: fan and sometimes we get some decent draft picks.

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Speaker 3: But I was wondering any draft picks from Hawaii or.

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Speaker 12: Anybody that's on the West coast that.

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Speaker 2: Stole Hawaii Hawaii college players from Hawaii like cal Or

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Speaker 2: E C.

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Speaker 10: L A or Oregon.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, we've gotten the c and this man loves

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Speaker 4: to call and ask about Hawaii.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it exists.

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Speaker 3: Best player in the NFL ever to graduate from Hawaii?

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Speaker 3: Demon Bess was it? Was it best?

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Speaker 7: Maybe?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 7: Then the answer is no, there's no one from Hawaii.

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Speaker 9: There's obviously a lot a lot of Hawaiian you know players, Yes,

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Speaker 9: thank you.

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Speaker 7: We need to tell you.

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Speaker 3: Now, we don't. We don't.

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Speaker 1: So you're getting married. I haven't received an invitation yet.

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Speaker 1: Should I be expecting one?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 9: It's family owned, family only and quite honestly, like I

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Speaker 9: heard how you you acted at Lebatard's wedding.

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Speaker 1: So I showed up late to Levatard's wedding and what

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Speaker 1: do you mean right, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just family only, small gathering, second time around

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Speaker 9: for both of us.

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Speaker 7: So uh so we're not making a big, big ordeal

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Speaker 7: out of it.

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Speaker 3: That's too bad. I had a best man speech for you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just.

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Speaker 7: I was just gonna say who wrote it?

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Speaker 5: Who's ransick?

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Speaker 3: Mishe? Are you going to the draft or no?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well no, not to the actual draft. Okay, maybe

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Speaker 7: we're gonna be the l A.

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Speaker 9: Studios with with the Ringer. So we did it last year.

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Speaker 9: It's awesome doing it there. It's just easier and less clutter.

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Speaker 9: But I think we might go to DC next year.

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Speaker 9: That's gonna be epic, you know, white House Lawn, that

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Speaker 9: quarterback class, that draft class.

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Speaker 7: But we'll be there.

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Speaker 9: But I'm heading out to the Combine on Sunday and

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Speaker 9: we'll be in Indianapolis for a week, you know, bouncing

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Speaker 9: around from steakhouses and sitting in the hotel room gathering data.

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Speaker 7: It's a weird week out there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but you get a lot of information, so yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's worth it.

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Speaker 3: We made a mistake. Chason Helaw went to Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: So oh right, start you're starting with your his fiance's cousins,

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Speaker 4: and now we're talking about Hawaii players.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to listen. I wanted to stay with Tony

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Speaker 1: Clark for thirty minutes. I did, really did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No more commercials for topic shit.

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Speaker 3: The McShay show wherever you get back.

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Speaker 9: Off an extra fifteen minutes, right, yes, come on, come on, buddy,

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Speaker 9: come on, budd.

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Speaker 3: Yes, when I tell you fifteen, it's really thirty.

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Speaker 7: You know me fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So that's why I'm the best man at

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Speaker 1: his wedding. Todd, big Jay, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: the time. The McShay show, wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's part of the Ringer Network with Bill Simmons and

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Speaker 1: those guys. We appreciate it as always, Buddy, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much.

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Speaker 7: All right, take care, my man. I'll talk to you

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Speaker 7: guys soon.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stuve Gotson Live

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Speaker 2: weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Todd mcshae for joining us in the

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Speaker 1: first hour. Mike Gola coming up in about a half hour.

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Speaker 1: Ad Nan Vert getting connected right now. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to this movies, Baseball and candidate. It's been a while

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Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Ad Nan, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us. Before we get started here, I want

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Speaker 1: to play some sound from Christopher mad Dog Russo.

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Speaker 3: You love them, I love them, Everyone loves them.

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Speaker 1: This is him being confused about the news that broke yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and we were all confused in defensive Christopher mad Dog Russo.

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Speaker 1: But this is about the news regarding Tony Clark playfellas.

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Speaker 14: Now, whether the MLB put out a statement, they got

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Speaker 14: the word of course to their guys today to get

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Speaker 14: this out that it was due to an inappropriate relationship

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Speaker 14: with a sister in law who you know is in

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Speaker 14: her fifties.

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Speaker 5: What's so inappropriate about that? I understand? I mean, you

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Speaker 5: know this happens.

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Speaker 14: All the time, this stuff. I mean, why would that

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Speaker 14: be considered inappropriate? It's his system in raw, all right,

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Speaker 14: So it's his brother's wife.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, I guess it's inappropriate.

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Speaker 14: But maybe the isn't that a family matter more so

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Speaker 14: than is a union matter?

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Speaker 12: Broach?

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Speaker 15: Incredible, STU would have thought that would give the take

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Speaker 15: that bad dog would land on.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was driving in and I was listening

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Speaker 5: to WIB Network radio. My buddy Ryan Spellber was just talking.

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Speaker 15: But this is before the inappropriate relationship part came out.

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Speaker 15: It's it's just initially, hey, the FEDS are investigating some behavior.

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Speaker 15: Tony clarkson as step aside of my already not good?

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Speaker 15: What's your Fed's involved? Alright, But Spilly goes ahead. But

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Speaker 15: Spilly goes in and.

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Speaker 5: Goes, hey, good guy. I've known Tony click a long time,

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Speaker 5: great family man.

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Speaker 15: So then I sell the straight inappropriate relationship, non bursting

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Speaker 15: out laughing, great family man. Okay, well, clearly definitely a

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Speaker 15: family man guy. But when the FEDS are involved, it's

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Speaker 15: already over.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that mad dog's here, what's the issue.

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Speaker 15: But even Noel Shuman we had on Emily Network and

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Speaker 15: he said, he goes listen the fact he had an affair,

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Speaker 15: and he was wait, let me, let me pause myself.

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Speaker 5: He had the fact in an inappropriate relationship.

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Speaker 15: So even people are very fixed on that terminology, like

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Speaker 15: he didn't say it inappropriation for a bad pict to go, well,

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Speaker 15: he didn't have an inproper relationship. It's okay, it's a

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Speaker 15: family really, that's the take. You're landing up Tony has

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Speaker 15: been running the union for thirteen years. Inappropriate relationship with

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Speaker 15: a sister in law, what's the big deal. Let's go

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Speaker 15: ahead and get a building with Rob Nanford for more

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Speaker 15: labor peace.

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Speaker 5: Incredible take by Doggie Bruce.

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Speaker 4: I understand in this climate, with all the news that

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Speaker 4: seems to be breaking out where the first thing he

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Speaker 4: would think of in terms of inappropriate relationship is age.

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Speaker 16: But it should jump off the page, G and G regardless. Right,

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Speaker 16: people were wondering they weren't like a sister line? Is

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Speaker 16: that wife's sister or brother's sister. I'm like, well, does

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Speaker 16: it matter? Like I'm curious too.

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Speaker 1: But either romantic brothers pretty brutal wife's sister also attrupts

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Speaker 1: us either way, this is a quadad.

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Speaker 3: Well An is so right. It's the best take I've

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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 1: It's it's nearly impossible when the FEDS are involved in

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Speaker 1: your day, and your day somehow gets worse after that.

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Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 15: Can you imagine I had the radio hit to do

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Speaker 15: these guys say, hey, guys, sorry, any I can't make

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Speaker 15: it while well, the FEDS are investigating some of his behavior,

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Speaker 15: Holy fu?

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Speaker 5: Could it possibly?

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Speaker 3: Jeez?

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Speaker 5: Bert clean it up.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 15: If it's a civil missie municipality issue, the federal government,

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Speaker 15: oh my god, can unbelievable?

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Speaker 1: Adnan, Are we headed towards a workstop at a Major

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Speaker 1: League baseball I.

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Speaker 5: Really hope that too. And of course that's the first

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Speaker 5: thing I really wants to say.

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Speaker 15: Right with respect to Tony Clark, you just go, okay,

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Speaker 15: So the guy who's been running the union for thirteen

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Speaker 15: years is no longer doing so what does this mean

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Speaker 15: for my baseball?

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Speaker 5: Right? That's all people want to know about the labor Right.

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Speaker 5: The concercts expired December.

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Speaker 15: First, I think most people within the game thick we're

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Speaker 15: headed towards a lockout, but I remain optimistic that we

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Speaker 15: won't miss games. I think we had a lock up

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Speaker 15: previously seas you know, March twenty twenty two we missed

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Speaker 15: ninety nine days, and then in March of twenty twenty

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Speaker 15: two they got a deal done. And of course we

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Speaker 15: had baseball because what does it mean the players? They

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Speaker 15: don't miss any checks until the season starts, right, the.

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Speaker 5: Owners don't miss any revenue until the games begin. So

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Speaker 5: it's easy to say, well, December, we're locking out. January

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Speaker 5: we're locking out Februe. No one's getting paid.

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Speaker 15: It doesn't matter anyways, right, And you can see the

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Speaker 15: way free agency has been anyways used to be winter meetings.

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Speaker 15: Everything happens now, guys are trickly in signing in January, Febrary,

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Speaker 15: et cetera. So I love the opinion that, yes, there'll

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Speaker 15: probably be a workstop. But you again, I don't have

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Speaker 15: any inside knowledge, just my own belief what happened five

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Speaker 15: years ago.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think we're gonna miss games.

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Speaker 15: I think that people realize there's too much money at

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Speaker 15: stake right now. Baseball has ad seventy million fans three

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Speaker 15: straight years. You can give me all the rhetoric the

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Speaker 15: Dodgers blah blah blah. Ultimately, when the players go, wait,

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Speaker 15: do you want to miss checks?

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Speaker 5: You want to miss games or not? And the owners go,

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Speaker 5: do you want to miss checks? You want to miss

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Speaker 5: games or not? I think ultimately both sides get a

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Speaker 5: deal done.

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Speaker 3: Are you in favor of a salary cap?

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Speaker 5: It really doesn't impact me.

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Speaker 15: I can see the people who are in favor of

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Speaker 15: it would argue this if you look at several teams

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Speaker 15: in other sports. The Kansas City Chiefs the Edmonton Oilers,

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Speaker 15: the Olklamy City Thunder.

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Speaker 5: These are not major market teams. It's similar.

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Speaker 15: They become champions and they've willed to be successful. So

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Speaker 15: that's the argument in favor of the cap. I know

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Speaker 15: the players have always said over our dead bodies will

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Speaker 15: never happen, Marvin Miller, et cetera. So I understand the

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Speaker 15: apprehension around it. But yeah, to me, I see it

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Speaker 15: working in other sports. So I don't necessarily understand the

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Speaker 15: aversion to it beyond the fact that players have been

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Speaker 15: told for years, no matter what, never accept a cap.

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Speaker 5: It's not good for the game. And I understand. I

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Speaker 5: guess on some.

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Speaker 15: Levels say well, why should there be a cap? Why

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Speaker 15: do the owners need to regulate themselves? If the Dodgers

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Speaker 15: want to spend four hund and thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 5: That's a issue.

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Speaker 15: We have a luxury tax that's supposed to be some

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Speaker 15: sort of determent, but it's not working right now. So

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Speaker 15: it really don't matter of me's too. As long as

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Speaker 15: there's baseball. The swar people than me will figure it out.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your calls here in a second eight

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Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Go ahead, Taylor. Taylor's

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Speaker 1: an assignment Port Saint Lucy covering the Mets spring training.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Taylor, Adam, what do you think about the

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Speaker 6: Yankees strategy to run it back with the same exact team,

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Speaker 6: but just slightly worse.

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Speaker 15: I was waiting for the rage of Taylor, who has

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Speaker 15: been texting me because someone please let Brian Cash.

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Speaker 5: But no, the prageency is.

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Speaker 15: Almost over reporting let's go, so I'll go in favor

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Speaker 15: of Cash and Boonie. They won ninety four games last year,

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Speaker 15: Like what do you want? Like, this was a really

812
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Speaker 15: good team and they're running it back. So Dn's to

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Speaker 15: be back late April, early May. Garrett Coles on My

814
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Speaker 15: favorite pitchers, He's gonna be back late May, early June.

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Speaker 15: I cautioned that when a little bit guys coming back

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Speaker 15: from Tommy John, He's not exactly gonna be sioned right away.

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Speaker 15: Takes about a month to build up, but second affic

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Speaker 15: could be great, Garrett Cole, I thought Belanger was the

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Speaker 15: most important guy for you, Taylor.

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Speaker 5: He's back thirty two and a half million dollars a year.

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Speaker 15: He can play every position gold Club style and lets

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Speaker 15: your thirty hoole months hunderd RBIs, So it's a good

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Speaker 15: team on paper.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm amused by the fact I look.

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Speaker 15: At these ben MGMs and stuff. They got the Yankees

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Speaker 15: as the favorites to win the East.

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Speaker 7: I got huh.

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Speaker 15: Last time I checked, the Blue Jays pushed him around,

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Speaker 15: beat him eighty five in the season series, and the

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Speaker 15: kick there, you know what, the playoffs. But sure, yeah,

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Speaker 15: I guess the Yankees are the favorite five. They lost

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Speaker 15: bobu Chets all of a sudden. The Yankees are bare

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Speaker 15: of the Blue Jays. I would caution against that. The

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Speaker 15: Jays are the team to beat. They're the team that

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Speaker 15: came within one game winning the World Series. But I

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Speaker 15: am not as anti Yankee as you are. What I'd

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Speaker 15: like to see more move sure, but let me ask

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Speaker 15: you this, who's the guy you wanted sun?

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Speaker 5: You see, you know what the Yankee He's got him.

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Speaker 5: It would have solved other issues.

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Speaker 15: Is there a name method that you were clamoring for

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Speaker 15: beyond resigning Bellancher.

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Speaker 6: Probably Bishitt, probably Freddy Peralta the moves that the Mets made,

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Speaker 6: Because I think part of the problem is it's a

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Speaker 6: good regular season team, but there seems to be this

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Speaker 6: hubris from the Yankees to be like, what the Blue

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Speaker 6: Jays did to us was fluky, But when you watch

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Speaker 6: those games, nothing about it really fell flukey.

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Speaker 15: No, the Jays push him around. You're right about that,

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Speaker 15: I mean, especially those games in Toronto. I mean it

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Speaker 15: was seven oh the Jays won in the regular season.

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Speaker 15: As far as at Rogers Center, it was a house

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Speaker 15: of horrors, and Flady in particular was an absolute Yankee killer.

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Speaker 5: So I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 15: I don't necessarily subscribe to the theory that, well, it happened,

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Speaker 15: but it won't happen.

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Speaker 5: Well, why would it happen again? Like I could clearly

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Speaker 5: see the Jays again beating the Yankees the way they did. Bubaschet,

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Speaker 5: You're right. As a hit machine, he'd be great for

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Speaker 5: the Yankees.

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Speaker 15: Paralta's an absolute stud for Stegatt's's Mets. It's a very

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Speaker 15: interesting offseason because it went from looking borderline catastrophic. Pete

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Speaker 15: A Lonzo's gone, Brandon Nemo's gone, Jeff McNeil's gone, and

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Speaker 15: also you go Edwin Diaz has gone.

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Speaker 5: Parlta's an absolute stud.

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Speaker 15: He was top five in the National League in terms

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Speaker 15: of starting interest last year. If Devin Wims gave his

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Speaker 15: mojo back. Boba Schett is gonna leave the lage in

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Speaker 15: the hitch. At the very least be top five in

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Speaker 15: batting average. So it's I don't know if the Mets

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Speaker 15: are better, but it's an interesting obseason. At the very least,

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Speaker 15: they got rid of the four guys they jettisoned.

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Speaker 5: The four guys were the longest serving Mets.

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Speaker 15: So whereas the Yankees kind of stay pat, the Mets

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Speaker 15: made wholesale changes.

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Speaker 1: It's why I sent Tailor to Port Saint Lucy to

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Speaker 1: cover the Mets and not the Yankees. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: that they're more interesting, better team. Go ahead, Mikey, you.

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Speaker 8: Said you weren't necessarily thinking that they're about the salary cap,

880
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Speaker 8: But what about a salary floor because some of these

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Speaker 8: teams that are just skating by.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's got to change, right.

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Speaker 5: It's a great point, Mikey.

884
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Speaker 15: Like when someone says me salary cap, I'm like, you know,

885
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 15: all of a sudden, if they put a cap, what

886
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 15: is the incentive for the pirates of the Royals to

887
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 15: start spending like the Dodgers, Like, what's gonna happen? But

888
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 15: to your point, if you put in a floor and

889
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 15: say hey, you have to spend one hundred and fifty

890
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 15: million dollars no matter what. Then all of a sudden, yes,

891
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 15: you would get those teams they would have to spend

892
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 15: because by virtue of the system. And I'll say this

893
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 15: for Pittsburgh, I know they get beat up a lot.

894
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 15: They did a little bit right. O Zuda signs one

895
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 15: year twelve million dollars. They traded for Ben and Llow,

896
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 15: who had thirty one home runs a season ago. They

897
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 15: did sign ron O Hurd who had nineteen home runs

898
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 15: a season ago. So they've got seventy home runs now

899
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 15: in three guys, and they actually spent a little bit

900
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 15: of money. I know it's not the level of other teams.

901
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 15: I get it, but I'd love to see Pittsburgh be

902
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 15: more competitive because they got Paul's games as the best

903
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 15: pitcher certainly in the Nation League baby, in all of baseball. Like,

904
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 15: I understand that, but I think there's something to your point,

905
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 15: which is that a floor would help the team that

906
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 15: spends the most doesn't always win.

907
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 5: You know, the Dodgers went back to back.

908
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 15: It's the first time we had a repeat World Series

909
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 15: champion in twenty five years.

910
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: So There's been lots of examples.

911
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 15: Ergo the Mets, who spent a ton of money, who

912
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 15: can't even make the playoffs their eighty three win team.

913
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 15: So spending the most is not indicator of success. I

914
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 15: get that, But are you vowed in saying I wish

915
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 15: other teams spent more?

916
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Let's go to Ben, who's in Wisconsin today?

917
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 7: Ben?

918
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you're on with ad Dan. Ben.

919
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 10: Hello, are you there?

920
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: Yep?

921
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: This is what I missed that Dan Live radio. This

922
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: is what I missed. This is what I wanted to

923
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: come back to. Go ahead, Ben, we are there, we're here,

924
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: we're doing a radio show.

925
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: Go ahead, okay, ad Man.

926
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 12: I wanted to see if you could have any budget

927
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 12: make any movie that you wanted to make. What type

928
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 12: of story would you tell? And then who would you

929
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 12: like to see cast?

930
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 10: And it's playing it?

931
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 7: Thank you man.

932
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say a great question, Ben.

933
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 15: Hopefully you've read my books in a file, because I

934
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 15: mentioned that in there. I said people often asked me,

935
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 15: if you had any budget, what would you want to make?

936
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Speaker 15: And I've always said, of course, and still love this

937
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 15: baseball movies A Roberto Clemente Biopick. I've always said, right,

938
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Speaker 15: if Clemente is the Jackie Robinson the Latin community, if

939
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 15: I could get budget for Clemente movie, and I would

940
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Speaker 15: have it in Spanish and English, and i'd have subtitles.

941
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Speaker 15: I get an actor who's actually Puerto Rican who could

942
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 15: play the role and basically play baseball.

943
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 5: I think a Clmente biopicks a home run.

944
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 15: Years ago, Carmelo Anthony I read a little blurb in

945
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 15: Sports Illustrated saying he was working on one. And I

946
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 15: used to cover basketball when I was in Canada, and

947
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 15: I saw Meloty All Star Game and I said, how's

948
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 15: the Clemente bio coming on?

949
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 5: He's like, pretty good work. This is like two thousand

950
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: and eight. He's it good, We're working on it. And

951
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: then nothing ever happened.

952
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 15: And David Mariners, who wrote the definitive biography of Clemente,

953
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 15: of whom I would option.

954
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 5: The right to buy the budget, well, David, give me

955
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: your book. I'm making it.

956
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 15: It's called The Passionate Grace of Baseball's Last Great Hero.

957
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 15: David told me, yep, Carmela had talked to him. There's

958
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 15: been conversations, but.

959
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 5: Hadn't gone anywhere. Now.

960
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 15: Last year, PBS released an outstanding documentary on Clement, and

961
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 15: there's lots of great documentaries, but an actual feature film.

962
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 15: You give me a twenty million dollar budget. I got

963
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 15: to a twenty four. I appealed to the Latin American audience.

964
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 15: I'm making Clement and it's going to be a home run.

965
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 7: The book I think.

966
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: Sorry the book, by the way, it's called Cinephile Interviews,

967
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: Essays and Tales from the Red Carpet by ad Man.

968
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Michael, sorry about that.

969
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 7: That's all right.

970
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 8: I was just gonna say, I think you and I

971
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 8: should get a budget and make a Roger Federer movie

972
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 8: to open the same weekend as this Clemente movie, and

973
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 8: see which one he goes down?

974
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: He go see Federer? He would he would go, he

975
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: would go see the other movie. Yes, that's not even

976
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: a question.

977
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 5: I would.

978
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 15: I would produce the Clemente film. I would dedicate years

979
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 15: of my life. I'd mortgage my future, and I go

980
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 15: watch team fed He and.

981
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: Handrew Forgit together.

982
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 3: Who would you cast as Federer? I know you thought

983
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: about this. Who would you?

984
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, Andrew Garfield. I think it'll be a great Federer.

985
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 15: I think Andrew Garfield. I don't know if I think

986
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 15: the idea if he can swing a racket. But I

987
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 15: think he looks a little like a young Federer. We

988
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 15: do a little bit of prosthetics. I think he could

989
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 15: be dashing a good tuxedo. Let's get Andrew Graffy.

990
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 5: He could play Spider Man, he can play fed You.

991
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: Know what, That's not terrible.

992
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: I had a different image of him in my head,

993
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 4: but when I googled him, that's not terrible.

994
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: That's pretty close.

995
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 5: Andrew Garfield is federal gonna make this happen?

996
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: Is so you and Andrew Brandt, who was also part

997
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: of hashtag Team Federer.

998
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: You guys discussed this right, Yeah, there's no doubt.

999
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 15: Well here's the here's the big things too. You gotta

1000
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 15: get we've got a grassroots movement going here for me

1001
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 15: and brand Federer isn't going the Hall of Fame this summer,

1002
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 15: so we've gotta do something about this. I'm gonna be

1003
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 15: in Rhode Island in Newport and this can't be an example.

1004
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 15: I'm among you know, a bunch of screaming throngs of people.

1005
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: Me and Brandt have got to get some sort of access.

1006
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 5: And I think we have an idea. Marty Fish, Bundy

1007
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 5: of yours mind.

1008
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 15: We've got a text Marty and go, Okay, how can

1009
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 15: we get Verk and Brandt to meet Federer?

1010
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: Now it can be ten seconds, it can be ten minutes.

1011
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 15: But some sort of access I think Marty Fish can

1012
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 15: make it happen. Yes, me Brant in Newport having muscles

1013
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 15: with fed I'm on it.

1014
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: You want me to ask Marty what do you think?

1015
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: Or you want to ask you?

1016
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 15: Listen, a man wants to go and meet Federer at

1017
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 15: the Hall of Fame, and then you can do Let

1018
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 15: us know, all right, h Taylor, We're going to the

1019
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 15: Tennis Hall of Fame, Newport, Rhode Island.

1020
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: Okay, sometime in the summer with that and Andrew Brant.

1021
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: I can't wait. Oh my god, I love you Dan.

1022
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 15: Let's show us Andrew Brance remember that there was a

1023
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 15: time he postp Andrew Brant and still makes such a

1024
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 15: cause Celebritakers.

1025
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 5: Look at Brandt.

1026
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 15: He looks he's the best looking six year old ever,

1027
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 15: and Brance gains he he's not mocking you, he's praising you.

1028
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: He sa this guy unless he looks fantastic. Y, it's

1029
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: a young sixty Let's go to Andrew in Alaska Andrew

1030
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on.

1031
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 10: With added Hellot and company? Are you there?

1032
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 17: Yes, Jesus sorry, cover all three subjects and take myself

1033
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 17: off the air for your rep.

1034
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 10: Why Canada roots apparel? Is that like cito in for Americans?

1035
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 10: It's it's it's too cool. That's why Americans don't like it.

1036
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 10: Why is it not more popular movies? My favorite two

1037
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 10: movies of the past two years are Trained Dreams and

1038
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 10: The Brutalist. The year before and last one Baseball twenty

1039
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 10: eight hundred hits eleven gold Gloves. Why is Omarvis Scale

1040
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 10: not in the Hall of Fame?

1041
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Than Wow?

1042
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 15: Right, okay, I love this a rare triple barrel questions.

1043
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 5: That's one question. Hey, I'm curious about this and what

1044
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: about this?

1045
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 15: Because you only remember the last part, so I've already

1046
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 15: forgotten the first two. I do remember the homer of

1047
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 15: a Scale part.

1048
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 5: I'll look it up.

1049
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 15: I'm just gonna I'll phrase it gently. Issues off the

1050
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 15: field involving women. You go ahead look up on ours well,

1051
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 15: issues off field involving women abuse.

1052
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 5: That's why he's out in the Hall of Fame.

1053
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 15: I'll leave it at that, because, as you know, as

1054
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 15: this was point tweene hundred hits eleven gold gloves. It's

1055
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 15: also a character clause when voting for the Hall of Fame.

1056
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 15: Omer Viascal not great off the field, certainly as graceful

1057
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 15: as he was on the field. Roots apparel, Yeah, it's

1058
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 15: very popular in Canada. I don't know what the American

1059
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 15: equivalent is because I'm not American, but in Canada, yes,

1060
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 15: it's very popular. You see roots being worn everywhere and

1061
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 15: it's great. I thought, he's gon asked me what the

1062
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 15: Canada game today. I'm like, trust me, but I'm still

1063
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 15: sweating four to three over check in overtime. God, I

1064
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 15: was gonna have to renounce my citizenship or just flee

1065
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 15: this country.

1066
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 5: And his second question, I have of movies? Yeah, Trained Dreams.

1067
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 5: I wasn't crazy, but it's on Netflix.

1068
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 15: My friend Ben lyons he enraptured body called the best

1069
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 15: film of the year, and I was like, wow, I

1070
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 15: took a.

1071
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 5: Nice nap during it. It's on Netflix. I thought it

1072
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 5: was beautifully shot.

1073
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 15: It's great cinematography, but it's Joel Edgerton plan a guy

1074
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 15: from the past who's you know, navigating his life. I

1075
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 15: thought it was rather wayward. Maybe it's a kind of

1076
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 15: film you see at theaters. It's different, big sundance film.

1077
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 15: I did like The Brutalist, although Adrian Brody we got

1078
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 15: to say this stup. He's good in The Brutalist, but

1079
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 15: it's very reminiscent of as the film that he wanted

1080
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 15: to Oscar for the Pianists, directed by Roman Pelanski, who

1081
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 15: has since.

1082
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 5: Been an outcast.

1083
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 15: The fact that Brody is a two time Academy Award

1084
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 15: winner is outrageous. I don't want to offend giants fans

1085
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 15: like Mikey, but it's like it's like Eli Manning, like

1086
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 15: I mean, I understand this guy is not a great

1087
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 15: actorate some of Adrian Brody has two Academy Awards. Did

1088
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 15: I like The Brutalist? Yes, mainly because I love Guy

1089
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 15: Pierce and had a great vision to it. It's about architecture,

1090
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 15: three hour film, immigration, etcetera.

1091
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 5: But the fact that Brody went an Oscar for it

1092
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 5: kind of about rageous and his speech was atrocious.

1093
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 15: If you haven't seen him, it's about a self indulgent

1094
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 15: as a cat.

1095
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: You would hate Adrian Brodie's speech at the Oscars.

1096
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen it, you don't know Mike at all. Yeah,

1097
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 3: Mikey wishes he was a Giants fan.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's fit.

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Speaker 3: Just because me bess completely, that's okay.