Speaker 1: I have some scalding hot tea. Come on, HPJ Hot
Speaker 1: Producer Joe just revealed to us that what he does
Speaker 1: when he goes into the Apple Store is he goes
Speaker 1: around to all the phones and iPads and he likes
Speaker 1: and subscribes on those iPads to Last Coats podcast. That's
Speaker 1: incredible and I love it. And this is what will
Speaker 1: make project chart Operation is success. Yes, because if you
Speaker 1: don't know, now you know Product Touch Operation is really
Speaker 1: in full of fact. It's actually been a huge success
Speaker 1: to you guys. We even got up to I think
Speaker 1: number sixty one. We got up to number fifty nine.
Speaker 1: We crossed us top sixty, the top sixty girls, Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness. Well, I mean we have HPJ to thing
Speaker 1: for that. And everyone at home who has been rating reviewing.
Speaker 1: I was just telling these guys we are here with
Speaker 1: Pat Regan, Say hi Pat Hi, guys hi um. I
Speaker 1: was just sharing with them that I humiliatingly will grab
Speaker 1: people's phones and you know, I'll do this five star
Speaker 1: review thing. Have you done this? I've done the same
Speaker 1: with my father's and have you have you been doing this?
Speaker 1: I took my straight wife's phone and gave a five
Speaker 1: star review and it saved our marriage. And that's just
Speaker 1: what works for our family. That's amazing. Whatever works for
Speaker 1: your family, and you know you can dictate whatever it's
Speaker 1: gonna work for your family when you do this. I
Speaker 1: mean it works for Joe's family to uh just go
Speaker 1: into iPhone stores and um, you know the iPhone stores.
Speaker 1: So please help us keep making Project chart operation a
Speaker 1: resounding success and we'll see you on the reviews. Look man, oh,
Speaker 1: I see you. Wow, and look over there, how is
Speaker 1: that larger? Yes? Goodness, Dan dong Loss Culture Rista's calling,
Speaker 1: and I would say that we are bravely starting two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. Bravely we are recording this on January one. Wow.
Speaker 1: Rabbit rabbit, rabbit, rabbit, rabbit, rabbit rabbit. Yeah. I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: what what do you mean by rabbit? Well, people say
Speaker 1: rabbit rabbit at the first day of every month too.
Speaker 1: I never could love anyone ever said that. It's a
Speaker 1: very sort of like folk see thing that people do.
Speaker 1: Apparently I just learned about this this year because someone
Speaker 1: would just out of nowhere text me rabbit rabbit every
Speaker 1: month every now, like what what? And then I would
Speaker 1: realize slowly with down on me, it was the first
Speaker 1: of the month. That's insane when you when you discover
Speaker 1: a phrase that's popular and well known and you literally
Speaker 1: have never heard of it in your right I can't
Speaker 1: think of one from me right now? What was your
Speaker 1: response just now? When I just said rabbit rabbits? I
Speaker 1: was like, literally, I've never heard that in my life.
Speaker 1: And you know what else, there's a person that I
Speaker 1: heard about who everyone else knows about and I had
Speaker 1: never heard of in my life until this year, Connor
Speaker 1: o Burst. I didn't know who the funk that was
Speaker 1: out doesn't know who? Then that is open for Casey
Speaker 1: Thats Graves one time when I saw her in concerts. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if he had come out there and I had been
Speaker 1: at that concert, you know what I would have said,
Speaker 1: who is that? Do you want to know something? A
Speaker 1: lot of people were there for Connor. That's insane. And
Speaker 1: then they left when Casey went on, and I was
Speaker 1: like that disrespect is so disrespectful. Number nine, when people people,
Speaker 1: when people leave, they are not having respect. In terms
Speaker 1: of concerts, that's a that rule is a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's a journey to get there. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: think we just have to say it again. Okay, when
Speaker 1: people leave before the headliner, I have some respect in
Speaker 1: terms of concerts. There we go. That's all. It takes
Speaker 1: every now and then to really cement the permanence of
Speaker 1: a rule of culture. Can I say something, I've been
Speaker 1: really excited about this guest because there's there's guests, and
Speaker 1: then there's this guess. There's there are guests, and then
Speaker 1: there's a guest that really has worked his or her
Speaker 1: or their way into the mythology of what we do
Speaker 1: here and become really this true star. In fact, famously
Speaker 1: you suggested perhaps they should become permanent, and I and
Speaker 1: I really truly in passing, I thought, wow, what are
Speaker 1: some interesting things to do with the show. And I
Speaker 1: don't really want to get into this right now because
Speaker 1: you know, no no, no no no no. I just
Speaker 1: I want that I want us to focus on the
Speaker 1: guest and not about what I said about the guest.
Speaker 1: Unit does that make sense? I do? I do? I
Speaker 1: get that. Famously, our guest the three time and only
Speaker 1: winner of the Lost Cultural restis Icon Award. It's fascinating.
Speaker 1: That's the way it chuck out like we did Coach War.
Speaker 1: And I said, probably like I mean it will be
Speaker 1: crazy if Pat one. We all knew pat would win,
Speaker 1: but then Pat one, and then we had to honor
Speaker 1: that second win at I don't think so, honey, right?
Speaker 1: And who could forget when it came out in the
Speaker 1: mist in the mist and there's a beautiful Mindy Tucker
Speaker 1: photo of him in the mist that he might be
Speaker 1: using for promotional purposes for a credit. Yeah, and of
Speaker 1: course we say shout out to Mindy um. But yes,
Speaker 1: and this is actually really fascinating and upsetting that he
Speaker 1: has a credit because it breaks the whole sort of
Speaker 1: his own mythos, right, I mean he he is, of
Speaker 1: course New York City's most beloved comedian with zero credits
Speaker 1: or projects. Um. Of course, famously um the credits prior
Speaker 1: to this act true credit was they included, Um, one
Speaker 1: time his mom's friend met Colin Quinn on the beach
Speaker 1: and told him that he had comedy, and one time
Speaker 1: a Swedish woman approached him and told him that he
Speaker 1: would do well in Europe sexually. And who could forget
Speaker 1: the fact that his cousin who's a teen, owns a
Speaker 1: vest that was featured in an episode of Ryan Murphy's
Speaker 1: screen queens or who could forget the fact that he
Speaker 1: was blacklisted from the third installment of My show Live
Speaker 1: on broad Day. And we have breaking news. Um, after
Speaker 1: a short hiatus from Lloyd Knight, he has left Lloyd
Speaker 1: Knight for good. We can now report that our guests
Speaker 1: has finally left Lloyd Knight for good. He is on
Speaker 1: to other opportunities, perhaps even paid, perhaps maybe even getting
Speaker 1: twenty bucks from doing a set somewhere. That's huge. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that is that that people need to understand that in
Speaker 1: New York City, that is rare. When you find your
Speaker 1: venmoll and there's twenty bucks in there after doing a set,
Speaker 1: It's like a Christmas morning. Absolutely. Now can we talk
Speaker 1: about the actual credit? The actual credit? I can don't
Speaker 1: wait to be to see this. Maybe hooton and holleran, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be hooting and hollerand Matt what's the credit? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you on Friday, January five at seven pm.
Speaker 1: But the doors open. It's thirty pm at the Duplex
Speaker 1: NYC in the West Village right on Seventh Avenue and
Speaker 1: I think West fourth. Okay, there will be Pat Reagan
Speaker 1: unwrapped and loving it with amazing uh featured guests as well,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jackson, Josh Sharp, Knew let me a pair again.
Speaker 1: The list goes on Derek de Kats. Okay, all right, sorry, Well,
Speaker 1: now that he's spoken out of turn, we must introduce
Speaker 1: Pat Regan. I would never speak of turn on my
Speaker 1: own behalf, but when it comes to my openers, I'm
Speaker 1: a mama bear and I will always, always, always fight
Speaker 1: for them. Yes, you would identify as a Mama bear.
Speaker 1: I would identify as a Mama bear for my openers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't come from me, don't come from my family, don't
Speaker 1: come from my openers. So you identify as white gay,
Speaker 1: identify as a white guy, and that is my minority. Um,
Speaker 1: my gay is a minority, you, My gay is a minority.
Speaker 1: And then do you identify as Mama bears? Is that
Speaker 1: a minority? Um, it's not a minority that as a
Speaker 1: marginalized people and in some spaces and in some spaces
Speaker 1: for sure, it's a minority. Absolutely. Okay, So, Pat, I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to get ahead of what you were
Speaker 1: trying to address just now after you're um really shocking cough.
Speaker 1: Now do you want to tell everybody what's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So a couple of different things have going on with
Speaker 1: me right now. I want to hear it as per usual,
Speaker 1: you know, um, we're all multi faceted here. And I
Speaker 1: want to also say, like I already said, it's off there,
Speaker 1: I want to reiterate on the air that my brain
Speaker 1: felt tired right now, so like I might start slow,
Speaker 1: but whatever, this is famously exactly and it's not by design,
Speaker 1: that's not contract. It's really my emotional truth right now
Speaker 1: is that you feel tired. I feel my brain feels tired. Well,
Speaker 1: what kind of events did you get up to last
Speaker 1: night on New Year's Eve that would leave you in
Speaker 1: a tired state? I went to one party that was
Speaker 1: like very ALTI gun comedy scene, absolutely it was. What
Speaker 1: was stressful about the party was I got their thirty
Speaker 1: five minutes after start time, which is safe, I think,
Speaker 1: and of course as the first person there, it was
Speaker 1: a really good party by everyone was like I knew
Speaker 1: people too, about to introduce myself, but not well enough
Speaker 1: to like just start chatting that horrible middle liminal space.
Speaker 1: And it's I, by necessity need to be like central
Speaker 1: to any group of people that I'm involved in. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like the star of the party. That's my
Speaker 1: anxiety got the best of me and I couldn't stop coughing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so the host actually gave me cold medicine, which
Speaker 1: is which is nice, that is um. So then I laughed.
Speaker 1: You didn't refuse the cold medicine out right, though, because
Speaker 1: that's what I would have done. I didn't refuse the
Speaker 1: cold medicine out right because I felt I might need it.
Speaker 1: And that's why they have it. That's why they have it.
Speaker 1: That's why they make it for people to take I
Speaker 1: might have. It would be such a bad week for
Speaker 1: me to get a cold, because I'm interving for a
Speaker 1: job tomorrow or Wednesday, thank you. And I also have
Speaker 1: my on Friday, so it wouldn't be a big week.
Speaker 1: It's a big week. Um. Well, you could get up
Speaker 1: there and you could do the show a little sick.
Speaker 1: I could get up there a little sick, But my
Speaker 1: mom has been very sick in a way. I don't
Speaker 1: think my mom could do a show right now, how
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think she could if I get
Speaker 1: the sickness that my mom has. Um aggressive cold. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an aggressive code. It's like a voice affecting colde.
Speaker 1: So it seems like the cough is lingering because it's
Speaker 1: still sort of so. Also, another thing going on with
Speaker 1: me right now is that you just talked about this offer,
Speaker 1: but I want to again bring it in. It's it's,
Speaker 1: it's it would be important to share it on I
Speaker 1: have no problem saying something. Aways Um, I've been chewting
Speaker 1: the correct gum. I've never smoked in my entire life
Speaker 1: a cigarette, and for reasons unbanous to me, I started
Speaker 1: chewing the correct gum and it makes me I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 1: But could this be because you are becoming addicted to
Speaker 1: the nicotine in the gun, Yes, I think so, Yeah, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: but but that's like that also makes me cough. But
Speaker 1: I the nicotine some I think so like when I
Speaker 1: when I chew, it might be a placebo. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know, but like maybe I shouldn't have brought that end.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, I'm glad you did, because no
Speaker 1: one happy you did that. That's quite a quirk totally,
Speaker 1: so that that I think is also a contributed I
Speaker 1: was never quite a quirk. I was about the cough.
Speaker 1: But if we're going to talk about the cough, like
Speaker 1: I want to really make sure I represent all factors,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I do want to apologize to
Speaker 1: you because I was the one who took the cough
Speaker 1: and brought it into this conversation. Absolutely, and I'm right
Speaker 1: now you're drinking tea. We all are, we all are.
Speaker 1: This is this is a nice change of Can I
Speaker 1: tell you something, I actually can't stand when people are coughing.
Speaker 1: I can't stay when people are coughing. And literally I
Speaker 1: just told Bowen I famously can't watch The Crown because
Speaker 1: the first two episodes of The Crown are Lane Pierce Price,
Speaker 1: Land Price from mad Ment just coughing too much. And
Speaker 1: I said, I am not sitting here for that's this
Speaker 1: is just not what works for me and my family
Speaker 1: to sit there and watch the ground when I don't
Speaker 1: want to watch people cough. It doesn't work for me
Speaker 1: and my family. Remember on my Green, I mean I
Speaker 1: r L It's like, okay, maybe that was like not scripted,
Speaker 1: but when it's when it's in the Netflix or Redge,
Speaker 1: I don't need to see it. But I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: into the crying up, but I wanted to because I'm
Speaker 1: very I'm famously very into the succession to the British
Speaker 1: are you. I'm very into it. It is anything where
Speaker 1: like humans are like quantified by like something silly. I like,
Speaker 1: I really like, it's really excellent. I wrote it off
Speaker 1: pretty early on last last year when it came out
Speaker 1: and I was I watched the first two episodes there
Speaker 1: were such a snooze fast. I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is not for me, like this sort of crusty, stupid,
Speaker 1: coughing sort of British sensibility. No, no, thank you. But
Speaker 1: then it really picks up as soon as I mean
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, King George the seventh passed away and so
Speaker 1: immediately Elizabeth must succeeded. It takes succession um and and
Speaker 1: then the show just really picks up after that. But
Speaker 1: why not started there because you need the emotional The
Speaker 1: emotional context of Elizabeth and her relationship with her father
Speaker 1: is very important. So anyway, I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've never watched the show. I don't know, but you
Speaker 1: want to get into it, well, I love like, I'm
Speaker 1: very attractive to like I always know, like the top
Speaker 1: ten to the Throne rattled them off right now. I
Speaker 1: might not know name is, but on no Charles so Charles, Well, yeah, um, George, Charlotte, Harry, Um,
Speaker 1: and then Charles, and then Edward I believe Charles's younger brother,
Speaker 1: and then Edwards two daughters Beatrice in Eugenie. Then the
Speaker 1: next Um Edwards. The next boy is Andrew, because George,
Speaker 1: because Charles is one of four, So then it's Andrew.
Speaker 1: Then and I think Andrew has a son and a daughter.
Speaker 1: And then it's the sister of Charles. I thought sister
Speaker 1: was the oldest. I thought Anne was the oldest of
Speaker 1: those siblings. But because she's not a girl. If you
Speaker 1: were born like before something, then if you're a girl.
Speaker 1: So it goes to like Charles and his kids, and
Speaker 1: then next after Charles and his kids and a script
Speaker 1: supervisor who's like job is to figure this out there
Speaker 1: in the cast Like okay, guys, wait, actually seventh is Eugenie.
Speaker 1: So I mean in life, I would love that job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone comes in and it's just like, hey, actually this
Speaker 1: is nothing. What are your thoughts on Megan? I love her.
Speaker 1: I love her on suits? Yeah, okay, wait, so she
Speaker 1: is like a legit actress. Do you watch suits? No?
Speaker 1: I know you famously watched watch very attractive men in suits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wait that one. No, two guys, Oh, never mind, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of I'm thinking of the guy from the Doctor Show.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the guy. His name is Mark Firstein.
Speaker 1: I think he's so hot Mark Firstein. If you're listening,
Speaker 1: Matt thinks he's so hot, famously not Megan Marko. No,
Speaker 1: but I've watched suits with straight boys, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what they go gaga Overgan. Really, I thought you're
Speaker 1: gonna stay over the men. No, there's I mean the
Speaker 1: gates for Megan, of course, totally. But I mean, but
Speaker 1: I mean, you know when there's one of those girls
Speaker 1: that are like, oh yeah, she's like pretty, she's gorgeous,
Speaker 1: and but then there were like lots of other girls
Speaker 1: and then there's like certain ones that straight boys just love.
Speaker 1: That Royal Pains. That's the shot I was thinking about
Speaker 1: Royal Pains. I just said Royal Pains and the headphones
Speaker 1: knocked off pats. He totally, though I don't have any
Speaker 1: experience of the Royal Pains except that, like, I don't
Speaker 1: respect that all right, So what's good about suits? Just
Speaker 1: the guys are hot or the storylines? So this is
Speaker 1: suits and I never ever wanted to be like on
Speaker 1: college talking about suits, But that's where you are. When
Speaker 1: you come into these doors, you have no idea what's
Speaker 1: going to happen next. Yeah, so suits is like there's
Speaker 1: one hot lawyer, one hot like funk up. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: the hot funk up is really smart like he but
Speaker 1: he's like from the streets and so he I think
Speaker 1: used to make money like taking s a t s
Speaker 1: for people because he's so smart but such a funk
Speaker 1: up and so hot. So then he likes running away
Speaker 1: from the cops or something, and he accidentally runs into
Speaker 1: hot lawyers like law firm who's interviewing new lawyers, and
Speaker 1: he sits down and he's just like so smart and
Speaker 1: hot that the older hot guys like weight, but he's
Speaker 1: such a bas such a funk up, and the older
Speaker 1: lawyers like, I could make something of you. So they
Speaker 1: like that makes a lot of sense narratively that he
Speaker 1: would take a chance on this like hot guy who's
Speaker 1: been the start of two hot white men taking a
Speaker 1: cheer on another. Why is this stay special? Why is
Speaker 1: this stay special over the other days. So so then
Speaker 1: he ends up getting the job this law firm. They
Speaker 1: create this law that he went to Harvard Law and
Speaker 1: then it's kind of the politics of the firm, like
Speaker 1: who will find out that he's like not he's actually
Speaker 1: a funk up um and that young the young hot
Speaker 1: guy and Mega Markel who's apparentlelygal but like she's actually
Speaker 1: really smart too and capable of so much more. They
Speaker 1: kind of have like a romance. So she's not only
Speaker 1: on the show, she's a big part of the show.
Speaker 1: She's a huge part of the show. That's insane. There's
Speaker 1: also this red haired woman on that show and I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it in years, and even when I saw it,
Speaker 1: it was just whenever we don't know their name. Jessica
Speaker 1: turns in a really fun for Mormons and suits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's she's it's almost like Joanie from mad Men, but
Speaker 1: like but like a little that feeling when you call
Speaker 1: her Joan. Who then are you her best fucking friends?
Speaker 1: I haven't watched Diapers. Only one person calls her Joanie,
Speaker 1: and that is fucking Roger Sterling and he was sleeping
Speaker 1: with her totally famously, wasn't um, you weren't. But this
Speaker 1: redhead is like bucks some also not as Bucksum, but
Speaker 1: that's a high standard. Joanie is the most bucks them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she just like she's fun. But like so maybe
Speaker 1: she doesn't have red hair, maybe like maybe I'm conflating
Speaker 1: the two, but but she's a fun. Part of she
Speaker 1: was fun and everyone is like really up early, like
Speaker 1: doing good work, like at their office, and there's something
Speaker 1: aspirational about watching it because you can tell they got
Speaker 1: their ship together. I thought this exact same thing about
Speaker 1: I was watching Aaron Brockovich two nights ago Humble Brag,
Speaker 1: Thank You, Hombo Brag. There's so many scenes of just
Speaker 1: a character working, staying late at night at the office,
Speaker 1: and there's something aspirational about that too, and similar way
Speaker 1: of watching people getting to the office early and doing Wait,
Speaker 1: so I'm actually glad you actually just said okay, because
Speaker 1: I talked to I think to you about this a
Speaker 1: little bit. Lately. I've been thinking a lot about Julia. Okay,
Speaker 1: is it because of wonder that I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is? You know what? I know what it is.
Speaker 1: I recently watched a Netflix Mona Lisa's smile for the
Speaker 1: first time. Thank you for that. Yes, thank you. Women
Speaker 1: can do anything, be a mom. If you're a white
Speaker 1: I have to tell you Jennifer Goodwins one of Jennifer
Speaker 1: Goodwin's first roles, one of Jennifer Goodwin's first roles, one
Speaker 1: of Maggie Jillenhall's first big part. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I never liked Maggie Jonehall. I never trusted her. I
Speaker 1: don't trust her still, Okay, because this is me. Katie
Speaker 1: Holmes is fucking family, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I think that when they replaced her, that was callous.
Speaker 1: In Batman and Maggie, it's a girl to me, like
Speaker 1: Maggie broke girl code and that was my That was
Speaker 1: my entrance into Maggie. Who who could have done that?
Speaker 1: Who could have filled in for Katie? It wasn't Katie's choice.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it wasn't. I am making this up, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it was. I remember feeling like it was.
Speaker 1: Katie Holmes was going through that home moment Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: her stock and was like, we hate Katie, hate Katy.
Speaker 1: And I'm not here to defend Katie um, but what
Speaker 1: I will say is like she was that character and
Speaker 1: she's family, and I will we can't put her out
Speaker 1: to pasture. And so Maggie John I just always had
Speaker 1: a bad taste in my mouth. But I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you can't blame Maggie for that. For the Katie stuff. No,
Speaker 1: but I think she could have refused the part. She
Speaker 1: could have said the Dark Night because Katie, I would
Speaker 1: I like to her family. I like to think that
Speaker 1: I would have. I like to think if I was
Speaker 1: Maggie Donald and they came to me and they said, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna sunk over Katie Holmes, this young
Speaker 1: girl in the industry, you would have said, Katie, it's
Speaker 1: the top female role in this film. What do you think?
Speaker 1: So anyways, I just always was like, and then I
Speaker 1: thought Maggie jo like fine. I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm like getting something from Maggiejohnho that I
Speaker 1: couldn't have from Honestly, I think here's what I'll say.
Speaker 1: She was giving you a lot in spoiler aller for
Speaker 1: the Dark Knight, the scene where she gets, for lack
Speaker 1: of a better word, incinerated by the joker. Um, she
Speaker 1: was giving you some really good acting when she realized
Speaker 1: that she was not going to live right. Um. And
Speaker 1: I don't And I think that Katie Holmes is about
Speaker 1: as talented as like, I don't know, like like one
Speaker 1: of the more talented birds in the world. She could
Speaker 1: probably do as much as like a penguin could on screen,
Speaker 1: Like she absolutely can come out there and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's cute, like and then what it's over? What do
Speaker 1: you think? I want to be really clear about my
Speaker 1: argument is not that Katie Holmes is talented, right, that
Speaker 1: would never be my argument. That has a lot of
Speaker 1: cards to clarify that. My argument is that Katie Holmes
Speaker 1: is family. She had teaching, so she's her family because
Speaker 1: you you feel close because anyone like I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like Maggie donas family yet and he was a new
Speaker 1: person dount too well with you people like but so
Speaker 1: then I smell make her family. So last forward to
Speaker 1: end of the husand seventeen and like there's something I'm
Speaker 1: not just days ago and just isn't going when I
Speaker 1: watched and I'm like, oh, wow, I love Maggie job. Honestly,
Speaker 1: can I tell you the scene that's the real gag
Speaker 1: because I didn't even get to say with the real
Speaker 1: gag of Mona Lisa smile is and this is actually
Speaker 1: indicative of a much larger problem, which is that no
Speaker 1: one ever gives Kirsten Dunts the credit, never gives she
Speaker 1: never gets the credit. And I was recently talking to
Speaker 1: someone about um Slene and how they thought that Shelene
Speaker 1: gave gave nothing in in big little lies, and I said, actually,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I just think she Lene
Speaker 1: makes it look easy. And I think Kirsten Dunns doesn't
Speaker 1: get the credit ever because she makes things look so easy,
Speaker 1: like you never think like, oh, that person is turning
Speaker 1: in an amazing performance, because you don't. It doesn't smell
Speaker 1: like acting. It's just good and the part like so.
Speaker 1: And she's also so malleable. She can do so many
Speaker 1: different things. You can associate her with so many different
Speaker 1: kinds of performances and kinds of movies. So Mona Lisa
Speaker 1: Smile just floats on by and like the story of
Speaker 1: it is like Julia Roberts or whatever. But low Ki,
Speaker 1: Kirsten Dunst is killing it, especially the scene at the
Speaker 1: like towards the end of the movie there's two and
Speaker 1: and give me a hoot and a holler if you agree. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Having freshly seen the scene where she's like you and
Speaker 1: she's really talking about herself, and and it's someone that
Speaker 1: was like beating against the chest, like, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: It's a great moment. And then that's funny. I was
Speaker 1: gonna come. I was gonna come for kirst anybody. You
Speaker 1: were done talking. But now that you've worked that scene
Speaker 1: and I'm remembering that, and now I'm going to twist
Speaker 1: the knife. The scene where she's on the bike following
Speaker 1: the car at the end, like looking into the car, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a right for me. She she's she There
Speaker 1: was the most lived in performance from her there for sure.
Speaker 1: Julius the full site going that movie and I will
Speaker 1: go forgot she was in a bott and I forgot.
Speaker 1: She was like I think she has I think Julia
Speaker 1: Styles is like very like I think those who like
Speaker 1: love and those who don't love don't I love I
Speaker 1: love ten Things, one of my favorites. I love ten Things,
Speaker 1: Love Larissa Oli. Yeah, Larissa and ten Things really new
Speaker 1: the assignment. But Julia, So I watched Mono Lisa and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just like having this moment with with
Speaker 1: Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts not it's never never Jolie Styles.
Speaker 1: I'm having a moment with Julia Robert. I've never had it.
Speaker 1: I've never had a moment. Was doing. No, we just
Speaker 1: said ten things. But she didn't give you the moment.
Speaker 1: Yes she did. When she reads the poem, she is
Speaker 1: giving you the moment. Come on, Yes, that's actually real
Speaker 1: love culture number twenty two. When she reads the poem,
Speaker 1: Julia Styles is giving you a moment. Yes, that's true.
Speaker 1: She gives and she goes, you didn't Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: hate you. I don't hate you. Run out of English
Speaker 1: class and speaking, and then we're gonna I'm gonna. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. And when she was mortified when he was
Speaker 1: singing that song on the bleachers, she was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. She was truly a white Tominas militant plays
Speaker 1: played field hockey, didn't care about the core. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, before we move on. She was
Speaker 1: not a painter. That was not not another team movie.
Speaker 1: And also she and that was of course um parodying
Speaker 1: character and she saw that. But they did play with
Speaker 1: paint in that Yes, their meat cute like montage that
Speaker 1: it was paintball, but it was they throw border blooms
Speaker 1: filled with paint Can we be clear? So unclear what
Speaker 1: that fucking diversion was? Like, what the hell was that like?
Speaker 1: If they were trying to And I will say this,
Speaker 1: shame on that movie because they had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: bring a lot of tourists to whatever that was and
Speaker 1: it was not clear what it was. I know they
Speaker 1: paddle boat there. They had to have a montage of them,
Speaker 1: a montage of them having fun. And they had to
Speaker 1: make a contemporary because it was a contemporary telling obtaining
Speaker 1: of the true and they had to make it modern,
Speaker 1: which at the time was paintballing throwing paintball right. Well,
Speaker 1: then Julia's styles will always take the shakespeareence um reimagining. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'll always take that, even now that she's like I
Speaker 1: feel done acting, Um, she like, oh right, oh? And
Speaker 1: also taming and then also she did Hamlet, a modern Hamlet.
Speaker 1: She played Ophelia on stage film on a film. I
Speaker 1: think I remember that. Never forgot who. Also, there's big
Speaker 1: names I haven't said. Okay, talking about your moment that
Speaker 1: she gave you? Why are you? Why are you? Why
Speaker 1: do you think? I don't want to say one lasting
Speaker 1: about ten things I hear about you? They may never
Speaker 1: get to say again. Alison, Johnny turn and if I
Speaker 1: performance that was that was one of Alison Jenny's first
Speaker 1: like breakout movie role. It was the first time she
Speaker 1: took a small, nothing part and made it into a thing,
Speaker 1: which well, yeah, I know it was was quarters before that, yes,
Speaker 1: around the same time maybe, but it was like it
Speaker 1: was timed out in the right. It was building on
Speaker 1: all of that. So that's why I don't say about
Speaker 1: Johnny and then um and then um. Okay, So Roberts,
Speaker 1: I've never a moment with her, and not only smell,
Speaker 1: but I thought, like the whole time, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: like I'm enjoying Roberts right now. And then it also
Speaker 1: got me things like I don't even know Julia Roberts,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't know you know what I mean, Like you know
Speaker 1: the stars of today. I don't know Julie Roberts at all.
Speaker 1: And I've never seen Aaron Brock. But my end I
Speaker 1: would love, you have to you would love. It's never
Speaker 1: not great to watch and it's very relevant now, shall
Speaker 1: I say these political times, because it's all about the
Speaker 1: difference that one person can make and so is Monoise.
Speaker 1: But I um, but my entrance to Julia and my
Speaker 1: favorite joy a moment, of course, has to be my
Speaker 1: best friend's wedding dance at the end of my favorite
Speaker 1: and most of I got moves you've never seen. No
Speaker 1: she's great in it, but she does. And here's the
Speaker 1: thing about my best friend's wedding too. On paper and
Speaker 1: this is the mark of someone that's really great on paper.
Speaker 1: That character is so awful, like you can't like that person,
Speaker 1: like imagine Also it's kind of like this with l Woods.
Speaker 1: Imagine getting that script and being like, oh, and also
Speaker 1: we have to like her by it's like no way,
Speaker 1: so hard but like, but like there's something because just
Speaker 1: because so annoying, you know what I mean, so annoying,
Speaker 1: The motivations are so bizarre, right, yeah, and then to
Speaker 1: turn it around and make it a thing. I think
Speaker 1: my best in Dudding is the best ever I do.
Speaker 1: Cat Me diaz Is and I famously said that the
Speaker 1: Camin diaz Is karaoke scene in that movie was an
Speaker 1: emotional tear jerker. I don't get that, but I still
Speaker 1: don't get I don't know. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into it. My roommates. My roommate caught me watching her
Speaker 1: in Brockovich this weekend. There's shame around it. Well because
Speaker 1: he was he was like, I tweeted about it. I
Speaker 1: was like last year and Brockovich viewing and then like
Speaker 1: later on the day, I was still watching it at
Speaker 1: home and he goes, didn't you already see this this today?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't finish it. But he
Speaker 1: said that Julia Robert did not deserve the Oscar that
Speaker 1: year over Ellen Burston in rec Room for a Dream.
Speaker 1: Wait was but who was she in? Because that didn't
Speaker 1: legendary actress who plays the mother? Okay that I watched
Speaker 1: that movie in college, and I'll say that woman really
Speaker 1: did a good job. But then she apparently she won
Speaker 1: the Oscar the next year. Ellen versus never want an
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that. I actually I have
Speaker 1: to bravely step out and say sorry. If you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: who is an oscar A? I actually consider myself among you.
Speaker 1: But I do not know if Ellen Burston as one
Speaker 1: aner and we have to look and I didn't even
Speaker 1: know who Ellen Burston was. No, no, no no, she did
Speaker 1: win Best Yes in the eighties no, she won, Um
Speaker 1: she wanted in the seventies for what for Scor says
Speaker 1: the film Alice doesn't live here anymore, best doctress the Actually,
Speaker 1: we're going to be crucified for not knowing that. I
Speaker 1: think that we can get a pass on that from
Speaker 1: a seventies movie. I would forgive that. I would forgive
Speaker 1: that someone recently the first person someone said to me that, Um.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, like, loved your episode of cultural
Speaker 1: as Dust shout to the pachast wrong And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you get so hard like listening to something because
Speaker 1: you want to get you want to be in the conversation.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I know, like I identify with
Speaker 1: that emotionally absolutely. And they were like, especially when the
Speaker 1: person keeps getting like facts wrong. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: that was definitely a reader on our podcast, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not saying everything, but I'm not specifically because I listened
Speaker 1: to when I was here before. I listened to that
Speaker 1: back and I said, like, lots and lots of wrong things.
Speaker 1: I said that, um, who's who's whose red hair? Despertus.
Speaker 1: Then Marcia crosses character and Rose places an alien, which
Speaker 1: is like that was truly a crazy thing she had.
Speaker 1: She had an alien like scar. Someone someone did come
Speaker 1: for me. First miss misstating that Anne Hathaway's love interest
Speaker 1: in Devilwa's product was the guy from Rooney and that
Speaker 1: was actually yeah, that was the yes. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, just to all the touristes
Speaker 1: out there who are listening, I hope thank you for
Speaker 1: saying this. We are not We are not the paragons
Speaker 1: of truth. We don't have fact checkers here. Okay, we
Speaker 1: do not have that luxury. We are just simply operating
Speaker 1: from a place of common and oftentimes incorrect cultural knowledge.
Speaker 1: And that is the beauty of this podcast that everyone
Speaker 1: can access this. There's no you know, there's no barrier
Speaker 1: of entry here. So when you when you d m
Speaker 1: us on Instagram, be kind also a pat hold my
Speaker 1: hand across the table, because I have to tell you something,
Speaker 1: because I feel like that you identify with me in
Speaker 1: a certain way. This actually is kind of like a
Speaker 1: quote I lived by life by, which is I don't
Speaker 1: know my words, but I do know my heart, and
Speaker 1: I feel that you don't know your words. I have
Speaker 1: no idea my words, but I know my heart like
Speaker 1: the back of my hand. Yeah, exactly. So if I'm
Speaker 1: ever getting something wrong, it's just that I don't know
Speaker 1: my words, but but I do know my heart. Like
Speaker 1: the words I'm saying are wrong, but I am truly
Speaker 1: Now that we had that moment, I feel like Bow
Speaker 1: and Yang he does know his words very well. You
Speaker 1: are a word queen. I don't know my heart. I
Speaker 1: know that's so. That's what's so. Yeah, it takes so
Speaker 1: much longer to know your heart. That's actually really true.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you something? Okay, So, being a white
Speaker 1: gay that was growing up on Long Island, did you
Speaker 1: have a type which I feel like was forced upon
Speaker 1: us and forced fed to us gaze living on the island,
Speaker 1: which was the Tan Guido type man? And I still
Speaker 1: like subscribe to that. Not that I would like date
Speaker 1: that man or not. Maybe I would not clothes minded
Speaker 1: if if you're out there listening, um, but yes, that well,
Speaker 1: I think that will always be like my first alright,
Speaker 1: My first like sexual awakening attraction was cartoon cyclops from
Speaker 1: X Men, and that kind of like stand offish like
Speaker 1: comb over like no attent man that that and then
Speaker 1: also those like very like popped collar like Puka shall necklace,
Speaker 1: and I still will. I'll never pass over a porn
Speaker 1: of that. I'm sorry, But how does how does Scott
Speaker 1: and x men um that? I guess those are two overlapped.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Okay, that's fine that I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like interrogating, you know, and I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like you are. But well, I think that the thread
Speaker 1: here is that you're not like your sexual impulses are
Speaker 1: like crazy. I remember when Jersey Shore came out. My
Speaker 1: first thought was, Oh, it was not that all those
Speaker 1: people are ridiculous. It's like, oh, I desperately want to
Speaker 1: fuck Polly Day. It was like, is very hot? And
Speaker 1: so it was Ronnie and very hot. No, Ronnie, I
Speaker 1: don't get because I think Ronnie has an anger problem.
Speaker 1: I get Ronnie. Yeah, I mean yeah, like if you're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about but then you're getting into their personality
Speaker 1: about Vinnie and Vinnie such as sweet boy. I must
Speaker 1: actually attracted to Vinny, though I am embarrassingly infamously especially
Speaker 1: attracted to the situation for me, situations like a butterface.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a classic butterface, classic butterface. Was there
Speaker 1: like a type growing up in Denver that was like
Speaker 1: forced on everyone that was like yes, yes, it was like, um,
Speaker 1: the skier swimmer hybrid totally, it was this. It was
Speaker 1: the ski bombs, which are just the geographical um equivalent
Speaker 1: to like a surf a surf bum. Yeah yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I think pervasive, like oh that guy surfs and therefore
Speaker 1: is hot. Yeah. But for me, like my high school
Speaker 1: is very much like the hot guys of my high
Speaker 1: school were tape up like pretty tan tape up like that.
Speaker 1: So remember tape ups. Blowouts? They were big when I'm
Speaker 1: even two years Like everyone's two years younger than me,
Speaker 1: and you guys are included. But when I think three years,
Speaker 1: are you serious? I'm twenty nine? Yeah, but he only
Speaker 1: just turned seven but I only I only just turned
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Well somehow I'm our our birthdays or week apart.
Speaker 1: Scorp Um. I'm very much scorp but I um I
Speaker 1: but no, like blowouts big that like that like Poli
Speaker 1: D haircut yea yeah yeah um and you prescribe to that.
Speaker 1: I subscribed to it, and I like, I still did
Speaker 1: you just correct me? A bitch? Did let me tell
Speaker 1: you something? I just suck you because it prescribed. It
Speaker 1: is prescribed, it could be subscribed to, but it is
Speaker 1: also pressers. And I look to you because I don't
Speaker 1: know my words, but I do know my heart trade
Speaker 1: and I look to you, who knows one of my
Speaker 1: words that I don't know my heart, but I will
Speaker 1: say that prescribe implies a pre like just like a
Speaker 1: pre sort of like prescribe. It's like a doctor like
Speaker 1: writing something down for you or I guess you could say,
Speaker 1: culture prescribe that to me, and I subscribe to it
Speaker 1: in turn, or you ascribe to something. So I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what, no one's wrong, but yeah, all of
Speaker 1: my high school crushes did kind of like fall into that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you liked a lot of guys that were named
Speaker 1: like Justin m you know. And so now when you're
Speaker 1: out there on the hunt, are you looking for a Justin?
Speaker 1: Not really, but if like that would be like a
Speaker 1: fantasy situation because all those guys are inherently straight, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And like like you'll never meet
Speaker 1: like unless they're like um new league, if like you
Speaker 1: won't often meet. I don't like I don't need that,
Speaker 1: but I yeah, I'm like I would also, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need that. I have
Speaker 1: a question I like to pose to the to the group,
Speaker 1: which is, would you, at this juncture in your in
Speaker 1: your lives, have the patients have the time even if
Speaker 1: the chemistry wasn't like fully, you know, let's just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, do we have the time and the
Speaker 1: patients to like backer vance in a newly gay person
Speaker 1: into like as as we're in a relationship with them.
Speaker 1: I don't think what do you mean? He means like
Speaker 1: you know, like like like are you going to be
Speaker 1: like their? Sure? Oh no? Like yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the person. I do understand though,
Speaker 1: wanting to be someone's like sure, but into the gay world,
Speaker 1: like I understand, especially if the connection is mostly sexual. Right.
Speaker 1: That's why I think a lot of us have stories
Speaker 1: about like a call Me by your Name type situation
Speaker 1: where you hook up with an older guy. When I
Speaker 1: saw that movie, which I would give a solid eight
Speaker 1: point five out of ten, I don't just like it
Speaker 1: as much as Bowen, but I see some issues with it.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't I mean, I'm not going to sit
Speaker 1: here and say it swept me away. But I did
Speaker 1: UM connect very much with that, and I think there
Speaker 1: is something in like, uh a younger or newer gay
Speaker 1: that you're like, I want to be the one that
Speaker 1: saves them, right. I don't necessarily feel that, but I
Speaker 1: I famously from the other side of it. Came out
Speaker 1: when I was like twenty five, so I felt like
Speaker 1: lots of people were like not sure, but it was
Speaker 1: like sexually like but I always felt like gay friends
Speaker 1: like teaching me how to be gay. I feel this
Speaker 1: might be irresponsible for me to say I feel like
Speaker 1: coming out now. There are tons of materials out there, honey,
Speaker 1: for you to read up. It's a whole different story. Honey.
Speaker 1: I've been too during a little bit at my old
Speaker 1: high school, Thank you Algebra. Yeah, it's so funny being
Speaker 1: back there because it's like a Catholic school and there's
Speaker 1: so many like just gay kids. Now at UM, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have said I was I can communicate it. That's
Speaker 1: what some portant. It's not about being good. It's a
Speaker 1: communicating and also I'm kind of good at it. And
Speaker 1: so you know what, the fact that you just claimed that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm in a really good space right now
Speaker 1: about kind of accepting credit when I deserve credit. That's amazing,
Speaker 1: But I do I don't remember any aligebras. Every time
Speaker 1: I'm going to go meet him, I don't know what
Speaker 1: he's doing. I just in the hour before try to
Speaker 1: learn as much Aligebra as I can and then hope
Speaker 1: it like it covers what he's doing. But there's so
Speaker 1: many gay kids out my high school. I always want
Speaker 1: to go up to them be like, you know, you
Speaker 1: would not WoT to do this when us here. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't be appropriate. No, I don't think it would. I
Speaker 1: think also it would jepardize your position. There is absolutely
Speaker 1: jeopardize that. But in some ways I feel like there
Speaker 1: is some thin obligation to let these children know, these
Speaker 1: young girls, know what the struggle was and how we
Speaker 1: paved the way. Truly, well, we're taking credit when when
Speaker 1: credit is due on the other side of the corner
Speaker 1: of this gay uncle, and it's like the exact opposite
Speaker 1: where it's where he makes you feel guilty. Not guilty,
Speaker 1: but like I feel that generational difference were like, which
Speaker 1: I appreciate. Yeah, yeah, totally. I saw a torch song
Speaker 1: with him recently. The third guest we've had, so I
Speaker 1: don't need to need to talk about it, but I will.
Speaker 1: What I will say is that Tabitha from do you
Speaker 1: guys watched Tabitha Tabitha Salon Takeover? Oh yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: familiar to this Australian lawsbian goes into goes into small
Speaker 1: businesses and is a bit to everyone and to fix
Speaker 1: their business. And she was in the audience fives ahead
Speaker 1: with her girlfriend looking Gardez. Famously, one of Kate McKinnon's
Speaker 1: first um the first sketch Kate McKinnon when was in
Speaker 1: on SNL was an impression of Tabitha. I had no
Speaker 1: idea that was the first I remember. I guess I
Speaker 1: remember her from doing Penelope Cruise, which I guess it
Speaker 1: was bizarre for her to do. When she did Penelope,
Speaker 1: she did an impression of Penelope Cruise that was literally
Speaker 1: like just like less Bliss Bliss with Bliss, like literally
Speaker 1: The joke was this woman says words weird because she
Speaker 1: is she'ssl It's but hey, I mean, I guess you
Speaker 1: can do that. Got right in there. There's definitely a
Speaker 1: way to do that. There's a way to do that.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is check your privilege. Kate McKinnon, that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing about I guess having more gay visibilities,
Speaker 1: we can criticize these these gay successes openly. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: like when you come for Sam Smith, like when I
Speaker 1: come for Sam Smith, but I also come from from
Speaker 1: for him, from a place of supporting him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel that that's a crucial part. People always think that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: gays are talking about each other, gay's gays, gays. I
Speaker 1: would say, everyone's always says gay, um, but that's not necessarily.
Speaker 1: It's just that we want the things that represent us
Speaker 1: to be as good as they expects. And also we
Speaker 1: are allowed I mean I don't think so, honey, critics
Speaker 1: for the most part. But that's why art exist is
Speaker 1: is to have a discussion about call me by your name.
Speaker 1: And when you come out and you give your tweets
Speaker 1: and you make your Facebook post that literally make it
Speaker 1: seem like you're stupid. If you don't like call me
Speaker 1: by your name, then you're contributing to a toxic culture. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I almost always when I connect with the culture, it's
Speaker 1: about like observing people like that's why, like, that's why
Speaker 1: I respond positively to reality TV. Yes, that's why that's
Speaker 1: the big drop for you? For Like, I watched a
Speaker 1: lot of Beverly Hills Housewives yesterday. What do you thought
Speaker 1: of you? Which season? Erica Jayne is a superstar? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this won't win me any fans. I don't like
Speaker 1: Erica Jayne. That's insane. Yeah, it's not like I feel it.
Speaker 1: She it's not what I'm there for, Like like I
Speaker 1: feel like, what are you there for? I'm there for
Speaker 1: like a Lean Davison. I'm there for like I'm there
Speaker 1: for like an owner woman who's like just trying to
Speaker 1: make friends and might navigate her social and I don't
Speaker 1: feel like that's what Erka Jane is using it for
Speaker 1: something else but just fine, but like annoy it's like keeps.
Speaker 1: It's like like I feel like she's like doing drag
Speaker 1: in a way that like I'm not trying to watch,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to watch when I watch housewives,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I want to see
Speaker 1: like women try to connect over like um, their lives
Speaker 1: and Ricka Jane, I don't think it's willing to I
Speaker 1: think that Erica Jane is different than all the other
Speaker 1: houses because she's not necessarily directly contri ebbitting to the
Speaker 1: drama as much as she is commenting on how ridiculous
Speaker 1: everything is and being too good for it and literally
Speaker 1: being too good for it, which I don't want to watch.
Speaker 1: I do you want someone who? I want someone who's
Speaker 1: they're doing it, and then I care the viewer have
Speaker 1: my own commentary. Erica Jayson is that she doesn't want
Speaker 1: to play ball. Yes, well it's not what she signed
Speaker 1: up for. Tell me if you, but what use bone
Speaker 1: as a brometer for this because he doesn't watch it?
Speaker 1: But tell me if you this wouldn't tickle you. Lisa
Speaker 1: vander Pump, who's like the house familiar she is starting yes, yes,
Speaker 1: like and Lisa Rena also who starts a lot of
Speaker 1: I can't It's like, yeah, after RockA Mars, I will
Speaker 1: follow her to the end of the year, right, but
Speaker 1: she knows she's on Housewives, and it's like really, yeah,
Speaker 1: she needs to like take She's gotten even better since
Speaker 1: like two seasons ago, where she was like literally I
Speaker 1: think her brain was actually literally fried. If I'm like
Speaker 1: trying to contrive like arguments with people literally two different
Speaker 1: things to two people and then be buildered that it's
Speaker 1: like a problem. But okay, So Lisa vander Pump like
Speaker 1: says to someone, you matter not where pink, pink is
Speaker 1: my color? And Erica Jane. They cut to Erica Jane.
Speaker 1: Erica Jane like rolls her eyes direct cut to an
Speaker 1: Erica Jane talking head, and she goes, I'll wear a
Speaker 1: pink wherever the funk I want. You can't own a color.
Speaker 1: Beat it's not possible, and then another beat she goes, also,
Speaker 1: why would you want to own pink? It's not that
Speaker 1: great of her color. And I'm like, you're gotta be
Speaker 1: kidding me. I say that. I like that. I like
Speaker 1: that's like her, like actually giving her opinion on an
Speaker 1: interaction in the way that I feel like, Um, I
Speaker 1: just it feels like she has writers in a way
Speaker 1: that I don't like, Like, well, I don't think that
Speaker 1: we're seeing like an actual person. I feel like we're
Speaker 1: seeing like a performance piece. And that's fine, but it's
Speaker 1: not what I want when I watch Housewives. You want
Speaker 1: I want? I want Sonya Morgan all day God, because
Speaker 1: that's a woman who's trying to engage with her life
Speaker 1: on screen and failing. But like, um, but at least
Speaker 1: what we're seeing is like a real human being. Sonya's
Speaker 1: on real Houses of Eric and she's truly just she's
Speaker 1: just a real like But it's just really interesting to
Speaker 1: hear um and this is just true of anyone who
Speaker 1: talks about reality shows. But like of what we demand
Speaker 1: of reality show you know people, it's just that like
Speaker 1: like you're like, I'm listening to you say I was
Speaker 1: she engaged with her life more? And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: that's so interesting, that's so interesting that we are. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you're making demands of anybody, but thank you
Speaker 1: for her acknowledging that you're not saying but to hear,
Speaker 1: but to hear just the the overall conversation around around
Speaker 1: reality show stars being like she should change her life
Speaker 1: in this way that is fully on display. Well, well,
Speaker 1: no one has made this demand. They have signed up
Speaker 1: for who I forgot who said maybe it was you,
Speaker 1: maybe it was July, and it's just right now. But
Speaker 1: someone said you have to know the assignment. You said
Speaker 1: that you have to understand that and understands the assigned
Speaker 1: absolutely whenever she's face still face still in the universe
Speaker 1: or no, she's still in the universe, but she hasn't
Speaker 1: made an appearance, and she's never been a regular. She's
Speaker 1: always been like somethingho pops in. Who is the housewife
Speaker 1: who understands the assignment the most? Um, Lisa Wrenna thinks
Speaker 1: that she does, but that doesn't count. It doesn't count.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe like Durnda Medley, I fucking love Dorenda, you
Speaker 1: would be obsessed with because Dorinda will literally be screaming
Speaker 1: and then but then also on the flip side, DURINGDA
Speaker 1: is like the coolest one. She gets very incoherent. It's
Speaker 1: like when she's when she's sober and present, you're with
Speaker 1: her the most because you're like, yeah, Dorenda gets it,
Speaker 1: like she's like someone that you know, Like you love Dorenda.
Speaker 1: And then when she has a moment where she's being
Speaker 1: like either like to slabby or incoherent, it is so
Speaker 1: crazy because you're like, where is the person who exists
Speaker 1: inside you? That's rational? These are my favorite house wives?
Speaker 1: That is you, Yeah, you're kind of DA favorite housewives.
Speaker 1: My favorite housewife is Carol as well, who's kind of
Speaker 1: boring but like but yeah, she's never like it never
Speaker 1: feels like she's making demands of me to like, um,
Speaker 1: be entertained by her, like she's truly just living like
Speaker 1: she really it's truly voyeuristic to watch her because she's
Speaker 1: not trying to like she doesn't like she's a Kennedy.
Speaker 1: She doesn't care if she gets off the show tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that your favorite is Carol, But you also
Speaker 1: prefer a housewife that nixes it up. Um, I don't always.
Speaker 1: I prefer a housewife who's who I'm what I'm looking
Speaker 1: for here, what I'm my criteria here is authenticity, like
Speaker 1: if like do scripted er like I think eric should
Speaker 1: do scripted or do concerts of what she does, but like, um,
Speaker 1: and then and then if that's what you're looking really
Speaker 1: good and pay for that concert. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that she I don't think that there's something about Erica
Speaker 1: that offends me. And also there's something about her that
Speaker 1: feels a very very like pandery to me, like specifically
Speaker 1: the gay man that it's like, um that is also
Speaker 1: like I feel paid gianizing like um, I like she
Speaker 1: like her. She has this creative director Mikey, who's like
Speaker 1: she brings on all the trips and like and like
Speaker 1: it just feels like I don't. I mean, he's living
Speaker 1: his dream life. But also like she like he'll get
Speaker 1: her already, and then she locks him up like in
Speaker 1: his freezer while she like goes to like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I don't. I just feel like she
Speaker 1: really like um game and feel like toys to her
Speaker 1: in a way that I don't like. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Isn't the housewives? No, not in this way, not in
Speaker 1: this way? You know what, Beverly Hills really goes out
Speaker 1: of its way to do And I noticed they really
Speaker 1: go out of their way to do this. And they
Speaker 1: want you to know that the housewives and their housekeepers
Speaker 1: are family. They like, but that that's a that's a
Speaker 1: that's this tradition like New York did that a lot,
Speaker 1: like Loui Anne's house housekeeper was her family Rosie. Um.
Speaker 1: They love that. Oh my god, what do I know?
Speaker 1: I think even I'm following this because it's so it's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like truly, what we've seen in the last ten years
Speaker 1: is like the complete raveling of a person. And it
Speaker 1: is crazy. But she's in treatment now. Maybe it's the
Speaker 1: best thing that could have happened because now she's in treatment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta get to the bottom. Lunn's narrative is this,
Speaker 1: like she she grew up in Connecticut, was like in
Speaker 1: nursing school, moved to New York on like a modeling contest,
Speaker 1: like one of modeling contest was a strug beautiful girl,
Speaker 1: beautiful young girl. Yes, it was a woman who saw
Speaker 1: what the world had to offer and wanted it. And
Speaker 1: who can fond her for that? Especially not you? And
Speaker 1: not you? And and so she wasn't booking in New York.
Speaker 1: Who can't relate to that? I forget why books? And
Speaker 1: you book too? I never booked. And then my in
Speaker 1: l a last week didn't book. Okay, well guess what
Speaker 1: didn't book? I'm sorry, that's okay. So Luanne goes to Europe,
Speaker 1: I d k y. I forget, and she marries the count.
Speaker 1: Not yet she is like comes this kind of like
Speaker 1: personality in Europe, Like she's like a game show host
Speaker 1: in Europe, and she becomes this like after I forget what,
Speaker 1: but I remember thinking, like, wow, she was like a
Speaker 1: deal or no deal host of Europe. She actually like
Speaker 1: sports commentary. It was insane. She was the Megan Markle
Speaker 1: of the time, a little bet and so she then wait, no,
Speaker 1: actually not at all like the Aaron Andrews of the time.
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know you're a deal deal, You're actually
Speaker 1: actually weirdly right. It's actually weirdly right about a deal
Speaker 1: or no deal. Girl is going to be real family.
Speaker 1: And honestly, when you look back at dealer no deal,
Speaker 1: it was truly offensive insane when you look back. But
Speaker 1: but so so she's like is making her money, like
Speaker 1: as a TV personality in Europe, the time of her
Speaker 1: life meets the count her and I kind of a
Speaker 1: world when they go they subway, come back to New
Speaker 1: York on vocations, subway to court after two weeks, take
Speaker 1: a subway to town Hall, get their marriage, and they
Speaker 1: go to the Swiss Alps where they're raising their kids.
Speaker 1: Thereised no kids there for years. Luanna is driving her
Speaker 1: kids along the Swiss Alps mountainside. Car tumbles off cliff. Okay, destroyed.
Speaker 1: They climb out of the car. She's looking for her kids.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, this woman like this is the
Speaker 1: story of keep going her two kids and she she
Speaker 1: brings them barefoot walking along the Swiss road. Maybefot, I
Speaker 1: forgot what is it? Why isn't this a TV movie.
Speaker 1: It should be You're just So they get to neighbors
Speaker 1: house and knocked. You're like, She's like, our car found
Speaker 1: the cliff. So they get back to her husband account
Speaker 1: he can't believe what's happened. It's the Swiss are never
Speaker 1: the same for lou She after that experience, she felt
Speaker 1: she hated the Alps. Yeah, I mean I would understand, okay.
Speaker 1: So so she moves to the Hampton's, where she becomes
Speaker 1: a New York social and becomes friends with who but
Speaker 1: Jill's Arran, who was in talks with Bravo about her
Speaker 1: show called Manhattan Mom. Jill says, I know this woman, Luman,
Speaker 1: she'd be great. Luma was doing these like insane stupid
Speaker 1: self produced like web videos with her and her daughter,
Speaker 1: like shopping at TJ Max for dealspons look for badgets
Speaker 1: and so yeah, crazy, I've seen them. And is that
Speaker 1: what kind of crossed caused the dissolution of her marriage
Speaker 1: to the Count? The long distance by the time she
Speaker 1: got to the Hemp, the Count came to the Hampton's.
Speaker 1: But by the time they got there, I think, I
Speaker 1: honestly think like the car tumble like played a part,
Speaker 1: Like they just were disconnected. She gets on this reality
Speaker 1: is an origin story. She becomes like desperate to protect
Speaker 1: her family because now her marriage is crumbling. But she
Speaker 1: just shigned up for this um. So for the first
Speaker 1: three seasons, she's very closed off, very like pretentious and
Speaker 1: very um like holier than now because she doesn't want
Speaker 1: anyone to see like the cracks in her life. Count
Speaker 1: leaves her for a younger woman. She's single, and that's
Speaker 1: when she got really real, and that's when audiences really
Speaker 1: came round on her. Also, Jill left to like have
Speaker 1: become like a real villain of the show, and so
Speaker 1: Lou and was like then branched out more by herself.
Speaker 1: And so Lou for a couple of seasons was great.
Speaker 1: Like she famously like was always bringing guys back to
Speaker 1: hotels and like banging them, like but they would go
Speaker 1: on trips, brought guys back, and like an episode where
Speaker 1: she banged the guy and they all got really jealous.
Speaker 1: They all they all got really mad that like she
Speaker 1: like banged him and then like they like left this
Speaker 1: guy like upstairs, y, yeah he was, he was in
Speaker 1: the room and what's her face was so annoying? Was
Speaker 1: like I can't believe there was a man, and so
Speaker 1: how would you feel? And it was really aline lasted
Speaker 1: all because they were really mad about it. That wasn't fake,
Speaker 1: they were And lu Ane's thing was, what if I
Speaker 1: had a man in here and you brought the cameras
Speaker 1: in because they have like there's unbroken code. Don't bring
Speaker 1: the cameras in my room and the doors closed because
Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm doing in there, so whatever,
Speaker 1: and they were streaming and she famously, now this woman
Speaker 1: who used to be this like European like Ingenue was
Speaker 1: slash like Countess is now like in it's morning, she's
Speaker 1: in huge shades, a big black bikini and just the
Speaker 1: bathroom and she says like, don't be all on cool,
Speaker 1: be cool, don't be all on cool, and we've all
Speaker 1: seen the game. And so then she meets this guy Tom,
Speaker 1: who has slept with two housewives, Ramona and Sonia previously,
Speaker 1: and then all they're all they're dying to break this apart,
Speaker 1: like they just hate that Luian's like winning and um
Speaker 1: like he's cheating on you, like he's doing all this
Speaker 1: stuff and take no. Me and Tom love each other
Speaker 1: like we're both players and we found each other like,
Speaker 1: I'm the I love when girls like I'm the female
Speaker 1: version of him, you know what I mean? She was
Speaker 1: BRILLIANTO that and so then so then on a Miami trip,
Speaker 1: Bethany gets a photo texted to her from New York
Speaker 1: City at the regious Regency Hotel, Tom making out with
Speaker 1: a woman and Bethany her lips at. Bethany Luna long
Speaker 1: term rivals, filips that doesn't know what to do, sobbing
Speaker 1: in her badroom. I don't know what to do. I
Speaker 1: wish I didn't get this. Yeah, it's really hard on.
Speaker 1: She conflicted about whether or not to tell, and she
Speaker 1: goes as her enemy famously, she goes Luanna, so she
Speaker 1: already tells other women and they're talking about it behind
Speaker 1: LUN's back, but all under the guys, like being a
Speaker 1: good girl for d and so Bethany says, Lou, I
Speaker 1: have to tell you something really bad, and lu goes,
Speaker 1: I hope it's not about Tom, and Bethany goes, it's
Speaker 1: about Tom. They tell her. She like the flips out,
Speaker 1: but it becomes this thing where now it's clear Tom
Speaker 1: cam on cam. Now it becomes clear Toms she on her.
Speaker 1: But it's also because of the narrative that's built up,
Speaker 1: like it becomes this thing where if Luan does not
Speaker 1: marry this man, and the other women win because they've
Speaker 1: been trying to break them up from the beginning. So
Speaker 1: she got married, divorced four months later, and then famously
Speaker 1: what happened. She um in a drunken rage, like would
Speaker 1: locked herself in someone else's hotel room, like slam doors
Speaker 1: and cops faces, like telling people that she would kill them,
Speaker 1: telling coms she would kill them. But what was this
Speaker 1: Christmas incident about? This year? This is when she got
Speaker 1: this was that mat is drunken, disorderly and screaming, and
Speaker 1: she tried to I read a report that she tried
Speaker 1: to escape from the handcuffs and the cops screaming I'll
Speaker 1: kill you all. Yeah, it's no, it's and yeah. And
Speaker 1: there's something you know, like Shakespearean Lee tragic about But
Speaker 1: I will say I will say this, that is the
Speaker 1: story of Lou but the story of you out there
Speaker 1: listening last races listeners. I just want to point to someone,
Speaker 1: Mariah Carrie Maria. Last night on the New Year's Rock
Speaker 1: and Eve, she planted her to goddamn wealthy feed and
Speaker 1: the age and it feels like eight degrees fahrenheit. She
Speaker 1: was looking freezing as and screaming for her tea, but
Speaker 1: she never got to get the tea. But she did
Speaker 1: sing well two of her big songs, her first single ever,
Speaker 1: Vision of Love and hero and and she sang them.
Speaker 1: And that is a triumphant story. And I'm happy that
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen and this is actually also very indicative
Speaker 1: of seventeen for me, starts with a tragic display of
Speaker 1: failure from Mariah, and it comes back and she was triumphant.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's a narrative. We can ride into your
Speaker 1: lowest lows, can launch you into your ist ties. Exactly
Speaker 1: what was your highest high? Running the act kind of
Speaker 1: word three times in one year? Absolutely, and and it
Speaker 1: was our honor to bestow that. I would hope that's
Speaker 1: also both of you are high. What was your highest high?
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily a bit question, Okay, not necessarily a
Speaker 1: big question. Highest hiv Um. The live shows were so fun, truly,
Speaker 1: I mean that, um, And it was really cool to
Speaker 1: see the response. And that sounds you know, really no,
Speaker 1: I think that's whatever, but um And going to Australia
Speaker 1: was really emotional because it was it was just me,
Speaker 1: Like it was just me, like going back to the
Speaker 1: place where it was like, oh, like I'm sort of
Speaker 1: in right here. No, well, it was like my dad
Speaker 1: kept saying like you're made of these things. You're like
Speaker 1: you're made of these of the of these minerals, and
Speaker 1: we have this water and all this stuff like this
Speaker 1: is this is what made you. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's cool. Um, so that what about you, Matt um? Well,
Speaker 1: I first want to say, that's like me and Ma
Speaker 1: and Pat we have that, but with like Long Island,
Speaker 1: New York, that's beautif all that's beautiful and we're made
Speaker 1: of bagels and like cancer cells in the wall. I
Speaker 1: love that. Um probably for me probably going to just
Speaker 1: for laughs, Yes, beautiful. Probably that was the highlight. That's great.
Speaker 1: But then like also, I think when you have a
Speaker 1: year with a lot of hi highs, you have you're
Speaker 1: inherently with a lot of lolos. I had a lot
Speaker 1: of lolos, big, really big, big time lolos. I had
Speaker 1: not that high of highs and not that low blow.
Speaker 1: That's good, that's good. I'm really excited for you about that.
Speaker 1: Are you banking for higher highsoul sarily lower lows. I
Speaker 1: would say that that's a fair thing to say that
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for. Yeah, I had a good year. I
Speaker 1: had a good year, but a boring year, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like nothing like things were good this year.
Speaker 1: Like last time I was here, famously in tw thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen, I was like in a bad place. Now
Speaker 1: I'm in a good place. I think that you starting
Speaker 1: the year with the show that you're doing is going
Speaker 1: to be very good thing. Tell us about the show.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be doing my shape called Pat Regan
Speaker 1: unwrapped in moving at the backs, and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: doing thirty minutes. It's gonna be a little storytelling. I
Speaker 1: love it. Um And it's just like this, like where
Speaker 1: I'm at right now, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: just like and there'll be lots of my jokes but
Speaker 1: lots of stories. There's okay, so a little different, a
Speaker 1: little different. It's somewhere I've done. I've done this similar
Speaker 1: sets twice before. You've seen it'll be very similar to that,
Speaker 1: but with new stuff, like a half hour you're doing
Speaker 1: a half hour. Yeah, and yeah, I'm excited. Aaron and
Speaker 1: Josh and Knew, Me and Darren are all opening up.
Speaker 1: That's amazing now. So like also we have to say
Speaker 1: you shout out to the Duplex, which is becoming a
Speaker 1: very pre eminent place for people to go do their
Speaker 1: work and they treat us good. Makes you shout out
Speaker 1: to the Duke Blex, shout out to the Blackmine place.
Speaker 1: Now are you going to be doing UM? Will you
Speaker 1: ask them to remove the piano? I will not, but
Speaker 1: I won't be addressing UM because there will be a
Speaker 1: piano on stage and famously, like I don't know if
Speaker 1: you identify as a singer, I'm not a singer. I
Speaker 1: don't sing. I'm a triple threaten other way is how
Speaker 1: I don't need to list them. Be get podcasting, very
Speaker 1: good at famously keeping check check and field statist things.
Speaker 1: U these are threats. Now. I don't want you to
Speaker 1: start a podcast because I think that people might choose
Speaker 1: to listen to that one over this one, and that
Speaker 1: will would be really terrible because I first and foremost
Speaker 1: care about me and B It would be a huge betrayal.
Speaker 1: But but it would be a huge betrayal. But do
Speaker 1: you ever think about starting your own like I don't
Speaker 1: know platform for your voice on a mass level. Um wow,
Speaker 1: what a I feel like I'm on the couch of
Speaker 1: and I hate till they use this kind of inflammatory word.
Speaker 1: But Ellen, I feel like I'm on a talk show.
Speaker 1: It's more like I'm not calling you out. I'm saying
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on talk show. It's like Stern.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on Stern. But um, maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I haven't given it. I think
Speaker 1: the world is your oyster. I want. I would listen
Speaker 1: to Pat, and I'm saying again it would be a
Speaker 1: huge betrayal if he did start his own podcast, but
Speaker 1: I would listen with enthusiasm. Wow, podcast of Pat really
Speaker 1: just digging into, Um, the the researched minute of some
Speaker 1: topic could be running. It could be the Housewives, could
Speaker 1: be could be anything that he is passionate about. I
Speaker 1: my deal with like all things, is like I feel
Speaker 1: like I I have such low awareness of some things
Speaker 1: that are maybe important, and then like the things that
Speaker 1: I ran like arbitrary like that I'm drawn to. I
Speaker 1: become obsessive and like every single thing true. That's culture,
Speaker 1: that's culture, that is cultural, that's why you can. It's
Speaker 1: always like easy to say what it is like for me,
Speaker 1: it's like Orlando Kelly clarkson reality television that was competitive
Speaker 1: For me, it's running track and field distance running at
Speaker 1: the NZ double A level, at the professional level, and
Speaker 1: it's housewives and housewives adjacent reality. I don't, um, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess it's video games. Um, you know, uh, day planners,
Speaker 1: Like what's the trendiest day planner? Yeah, And I got
Speaker 1: a new one for the new year, and it's really
Speaker 1: it's it's great. I'm worried that I'm gonna fall off
Speaker 1: of it though. Um. And oh god, did I see
Speaker 1: you writing your day planner today? When I met you?
Speaker 1: A graphic it's called guys. You know what do you write?
Speaker 1: You just like this is what I'm doing today? Um? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's just like you know, fun little layouts for
Speaker 1: like the month, and you write your you know, you know,
Speaker 1: your goals, or you can just scribble like like today
Speaker 1: I was, I was drawing. I was trying to like,
Speaker 1: you know, costume design, like what my uniform for the
Speaker 1: year would be, like what like the like the template firm,
Speaker 1: And I think it's just gonna be like you know,
Speaker 1: ribbed black sweater, gray running shorts, great joggers pants. You
Speaker 1: will draw out your like outfit, no poorly. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh like what like? Because I was nice to dreams.
Speaker 1: I tell you one of my goals for when I'm rich.
Speaker 1: When I'm rich and stylist kind of, I want to
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get really into fashion and I'm gonna i
Speaker 1: want to beat fashion police. Do you watch Project Runway?
Speaker 1: I have old seasons, but I always like it and
Speaker 1: I trust my esthetic, but I just don't try, and
Speaker 1: that's why I often end up in like hoodies and
Speaker 1: running pants. Matt is a new confert and I feel
Speaker 1: like Matt has really gotten an education. I love Project Runway,
Speaker 1: and now I will be more interested in the things
Speaker 1: I put on my body because of it, like right
Speaker 1: now for two and I believe I'm gonna be trying
Speaker 1: like because I love to be four years later. On trends,
Speaker 1: I love. I love like a button up to the
Speaker 1: top flannel and in a nicely foot fitting pant. I
Speaker 1: am on a lifelong quest to find a pant that
Speaker 1: fits me well yeah, um, and it's hard. It's really
Speaker 1: hard because a lot of times, like what's good for
Speaker 1: your waist is not good for the sea. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just they yeah, and I don't know where to put
Speaker 1: them on my HAPs But you know, it's so it's
Speaker 1: such a struggle. But I think that that's what your
Speaker 1: thirties are for, is like finding those answers. Um, that's comforting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I want to get willing into fashion,
Speaker 1: like I just talk out of the money, like like
Speaker 1: go into a storm, be like these are the things
Speaker 1: I like. So I end up just like wearing whatever.
Speaker 1: I do. Want to ask you, just because it's been
Speaker 1: referenced multiple times in this conversation. Ages such a such
Speaker 1: a big sort of touchdown for you. Famously, you're the
Speaker 1: first twenty three year old you you will be the
Speaker 1: last twenty three year old back. But as as you
Speaker 1: keep referencing you going into your thirty I want to
Speaker 1: know a Pat And I'm sorry if it feels like
Speaker 1: you're on the couch of Ellen, but what are your hopes?
Speaker 1: He has two love seats, by the way, it's just
Speaker 1: like to likes. I'm just quoting Pat and I doesn't
Speaker 1: have a couch. Okay, well guess what. I don't know
Speaker 1: my couches, but I know my heart I don't know
Speaker 1: my set. I don't know my set lightouts, but I
Speaker 1: know my heart. What what is your overall feeling as
Speaker 1: you as you enter You're not You're not thirty yet,
Speaker 1: but I'm twenty nine. I'm only twenty nine. You have
Speaker 1: like a you have, you have another ten months of
Speaker 1: being exactly, So what what is your overall feeling of
Speaker 1: Because I'm getting to this point now where I'm just
Speaker 1: like really thinking about age. But as you enter your series,
Speaker 1: as you keep referencing it, and I'm just pointing, is
Speaker 1: that this is just an observation, what is your overall
Speaker 1: feel totally? So I'm gonna try not to like push
Speaker 1: to think of answers, but I'm just gonna say things
Speaker 1: that I feel like I think about as I'm getting
Speaker 1: over I want um to have a nice apartment, Like
Speaker 1: I want to have a nice apartment somewhere that's like
Speaker 1: my space, And they want um to feel like I've crazed,
Speaker 1: like I think I want to write like essays, like
Speaker 1: pros essays, and I don't do that quite. I'm doing
Speaker 1: artists way right now, and I shout out its praises
Speaker 1: though I have produced nothing since doing it. It's only
Speaker 1: the only thing is morning pages right exactly. And I
Speaker 1: also want to run a fast marathon and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure like what that number is, but like I wanted
Speaker 1: to be, like I want to feel like I've putten
Speaker 1: in like five years of like a certain level of
Speaker 1: training that I know what it looks like. Right now,
Speaker 1: my life is to transient like always like this week
Speaker 1: is going to be really bad training and like last
Speaker 1: week wasn't great at some weeks in the falls, but
Speaker 1: I want to if this is boring, but I want
Speaker 1: to like do that by the time I'm thirty five,
Speaker 1: because after the five you kind of start declining, where
Speaker 1: even if I could, you could have run really well
Speaker 1: after that. But if I run my best marathon after that, always,
Speaker 1: like I wonder if I started, Like I wonder if
Speaker 1: I because I famously used to run quite a bit
Speaker 1: and now I'm trying to reclaim that. So that's like
Speaker 1: on the list, and um, I think I want to
Speaker 1: be I want to be like I want to write television.
Speaker 1: I guess also at some point, but I'm not like Marry.
Speaker 1: I don't need to write. I don't I don't need
Speaker 1: to I would if I had to choose be like
Speaker 1: writing television and writing like more like um prozy stuff.
Speaker 1: I would choose prosy stuff. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: much of that is. I just like don't like Celtics
Speaker 1: or like how much of it is, Like that's what
Speaker 1: I want, But I also have like the least the
Speaker 1: dream of like not even the dream, but like the
Speaker 1: part of pond dream of like being on Like I
Speaker 1: don't need to be on television. I don't need to
Speaker 1: act anymore, Like I never wanted to act. And just
Speaker 1: because I like doing comedy like I was, I guess
Speaker 1: I have to act, but I don't feel good at acting,
Speaker 1: and I also don't like it. So you were just
Speaker 1: talking at coffee about the difference between performance and acting,
Speaker 1: like it's it's this kind of weird thing where it's
Speaker 1: like you could be very good at like sketch comedy
Speaker 1: or like improv or something, or being on stage and
Speaker 1: like doing these things, but then when it comes to
Speaker 1: like the cameras in your face or like you have
Speaker 1: to actually engage with something in a real way on
Speaker 1: stage and like getting to the truth of the situation,
Speaker 1: like that is so hard. And just because you are
Speaker 1: good at comedy does not mean you are an actor,
Speaker 1: and it is so hard. It's so much harder than
Speaker 1: it looks like. Erica Jane was just doing an audition
Speaker 1: on Real Housewife and I literally I was like, she
Speaker 1: turned it out. She was great in that audition, And
Speaker 1: I'm and I think that she's probably a very talented
Speaker 1: woman that I would probably get along with, but I
Speaker 1: don't think that she's a good Real housewife. Right. I
Speaker 1: was just saying, you know, she accomplished acting on that
Speaker 1: show in a way that I didn't expect, in a
Speaker 1: way that like, even though she was doing nothing too great.
Speaker 1: I turned to Sudy and I was like, wow, she
Speaker 1: slaid that. You know what, she did really well on
Speaker 1: that audition. This was an audition from last season, I
Speaker 1: think season seven. Yeah, um, she she like took notes,
Speaker 1: like she did a read it with alien and then
Speaker 1: like she got notes and she slayed the notes, likely
Speaker 1: took direction. Yeah. Yeah, I think she's a talent, I
Speaker 1: really do, but I just like, but not a housewife. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like that performance forst acting, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that Sonia Morgan would be a very
Speaker 1: good yes, exactly anything else, Yes, but she is a
Speaker 1: good housewife. It's rare to intersect being a good housewife
Speaker 1: and being a good actors, but Aileen Davison does it.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, it's like crazy, imagine imagine, imagine,
Speaker 1: imagine if you realize that your true talent was being
Speaker 1: a housewife on television. That's huge. I would right now
Speaker 1: being a reality star, Like when of the best gigs
Speaker 1: you can get with spawn con being what it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Maybe we should just do that.
Speaker 1: I would do I would do a reality show in
Speaker 1: one second, because I love reality. People always ask me
Speaker 1: if I would do reality and I would do any
Speaker 1: reality show. I have to reveal something. I would do
Speaker 1: a cool version of Gay Batch. Yeah, totally. Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Actually that's the one. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would. I don't know if I want to find
Speaker 1: love on reality TV. It's so humiliating, But what if
Speaker 1: you were like a breakout start see. Yeah, but there
Speaker 1: are other there's so many easier avenues. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: being physician. If I was on Gay Batge, I would
Speaker 1: be there for the wrong reasons and because I have
Speaker 1: so much respect for the authenticity of reality television, I
Speaker 1: would have trouble like being okay with that. I have
Speaker 1: a question about reasons. Is is it a wrong reason
Speaker 1: to be there? If your goal is to become the
Speaker 1: next batch, that's the reason, but okas are bad. But
Speaker 1: here's the other thing too. In a way, I don't
Speaker 1: mind wrong reasons if like I'm not a big wrong
Speaker 1: reasons like Queen, because I think because I think at all,
Speaker 1: as long as we're opening to the open to the
Speaker 1: possibility that it could have, even if you're there for
Speaker 1: the reason you're like, oh if I like this guy
Speaker 1: and like we explore love to then as long as
Speaker 1: you're open to that, and I think you just need
Speaker 1: to be there and be open to it. But some
Speaker 1: people are there and you can tell like they're they're
Speaker 1: not ready to emotionally open themselves up and look for love.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a big gass. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to do that. But I also would never sign
Speaker 1: up for that reason. So I think Wells as an
Speaker 1: example of that, like someone who like big Time, who
Speaker 1: is there not for the right reasons, but not even
Speaker 1: like yeah, like I think well As there for his ego.
Speaker 1: That's my ballas is there. My sister was like Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Wells and his girlfriend who's her name from
Speaker 1: Modern Family? I don't know her name. What's Sarah Hyland? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like my sister likes a bachelor and bachelor and
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, Wells Adams and um, Sarah Hyland
Speaker 1: are so cute. They're so cute, and I kind of
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but you know, they're only dating each
Speaker 1: other because they're famous and wouldn't be dating if they
Speaker 1: weren't famous. And literally what they have in common is
Speaker 1: the fact that sometimes people take pictures of them, right,
Speaker 1: we'll see I could like knowing well As the way
Speaker 1: that I do, and feeling like I kind of know
Speaker 1: Sarah just from like watching her. I could see them
Speaker 1: like being really in love. But I think that Wells
Speaker 1: would never like go on like I think Wells and
Speaker 1: he is someone who requires that certain level of privacy
Speaker 1: that he couldn't do it there and I think he,
Speaker 1: like if you watch, if you watch JoJo's season, like,
Speaker 1: Wells is completely unable to like try to open himself
Speaker 1: up to a relationship. And then why is he repeatedly
Speaker 1: on these shows because he's popular. He especially was popular
Speaker 1: in Joe Joe's season because he's like they they they
Speaker 1: would have you believe he's like witty and funny. He
Speaker 1: certainly would. It becomes increasingly clear that he's not, but
Speaker 1: they let him go on extended bits on Bachelor in
Speaker 1: Paradise as like this girl went into the ocean and
Speaker 1: he like narrated it as like this like Australian sea
Speaker 1: captain or something, and I was like, what the fun
Speaker 1: it's contextually he was funny in joy because he was
Speaker 1: like at least like the voice of reason, but then
Speaker 1: he became like during his first season at bachel in
Speaker 1: Paradise he famously like when on a date with Ashley,
Speaker 1: I who's of course the biggest I will watch. Actually
Speaker 1: I's full spawn con stories like I don't care, like
Speaker 1: I actually have a storm. Actually I had the storm.
Speaker 1: Actually I had the storm and her she's only guilty
Speaker 1: of feeling. That was when it became he that like voice.
Speaker 1: That that's when that's the well's first season where he
Speaker 1: had already been on his season, and then that's always
Speaker 1: a change, like every season two of every housewife second
Speaker 1: season is their real first season, but that's when we're
Speaker 1: seeing them after they've already been on not even relaxed
Speaker 1: but aware, so like they then they've seen them right,
Speaker 1: they know how they look and so well as that
Speaker 1: you could tell Um his first batch of in Paradise season,
Speaker 1: I knew he was funny, like Elissa Edwards, and and
Speaker 1: then and then it only got worse in his second
Speaker 1: Batchel in Paradise season, which he though. I have more
Speaker 1: respect for that because he didn't come in as a
Speaker 1: as a contestant. He was there just as like a
Speaker 1: bartender who wasn't looking for love. You lean into it
Speaker 1: and you either succeeded leaning into it, I think, like
Speaker 1: Elissa Edwards does. Like e Lissa Edwards, this probably the
Speaker 1: most famous Rupol's drags. It really is, you know what,
Speaker 1: you should maybe even start with All Stars three, which
Speaker 1: is about an all Star season. That's fine, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I think you can start because you get a lot
Speaker 1: of you catch up really quickly with an altar because
Speaker 1: they have to give you background on on queens that
Speaker 1: have been there. So I also think with Rupole's drags,
Speaker 1: you can start with literally any season because that one season,
Speaker 1: no matter what the quality of that is, Like some
Speaker 1: people might even say season seven is quote unquote bad,
Speaker 1: Like you can start with and All Stars one I
Speaker 1: think is not as being bad, but you could start
Speaker 1: with any and get obsessed regardless of quality, because of
Speaker 1: what the show is, and then just start from wherever
Speaker 1: you want. In the beginning, you can pick the season
Speaker 1: that your favorite queen was in, but I think you
Speaker 1: would love why. I feel like your reality show media
Speaker 1: diet has to include, well, it's becoming I am have
Speaker 1: an increased sense of guilt, like over not wi I mean,
Speaker 1: don't feel guilt about I get that too, have Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones. Just just just you know, make that actionable
Speaker 1: and just do totally. It'll be on action items than
Speaker 1: you because actually, I'm sorry to everyone listening if you
Speaker 1: don't watch Rupole's drag race, But actually it's going to
Speaker 1: be a part of twenty eighteen Lost Culture Racists. We
Speaker 1: are going to be talking a lot about Rupol's drags
Speaker 1: like it's going to be something that we talk about.
Speaker 1: So you don't bravely that is brave in this climate.
Speaker 1: I think that I, um, lately, I think that I
Speaker 1: lately I've been watching a lot of Survivor, even like
Speaker 1: old seasons of Survivor. But is that true or is
Speaker 1: that just I think that because it's true. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: thinks that, but based on research that he's done on
Speaker 1: his own life. I reflected and I and I came
Speaker 1: to the conclusion that I've been watching quite a bit
Speaker 1: of Surviving. Watched the pilot episode of the first season.
Speaker 1: I've recently watched it, and I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 1: was finding its sea legs. If you will, do you
Speaker 1: want to hear something hysterically funny. I have never seen
Speaker 1: the first season of Survivor. I've seen almost every other season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I watched the season finale of the first season.
Speaker 1: I was literally same, literally saying, that's how I got
Speaker 1: into Survivor was the final four of the first season,
Speaker 1: which was famously Rudy, Susan Kelly, and Richard and Susan
Speaker 1: Hawk's famous speech but I and then I came into
Speaker 1: with a heavy Minnesota accent, um, but I am that
Speaker 1: was a star in the making moment because she didn't
Speaker 1: understand what reality is telling that reality reality now is
Speaker 1: a whole different game. And then it went through like
Speaker 1: an adolescence where it was like, um, now these people
Speaker 1: are coming on having seniority shows, and now we're in
Speaker 1: a new place where like these people have grown up
Speaker 1: watching it and it's it's like just a part of
Speaker 1: their world. Like even I'm a big I watch Big
Speaker 1: Brother on CBS and that is my sister's obsessed. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of fans because it's on three times a week.
Speaker 1: It demands that you not have a relationship like it
Speaker 1: demands like it demands you for the summer. And there's
Speaker 1: also live feeds we can watch and even Julie Chen
Speaker 1: is like posted up yeah, true, Jolie Chen should get
Speaker 1: em an Oscar Award for a Big Brother an Oscar
Speaker 1: Award and Oscar Award. The title of the episode, sorry, No,
Speaker 1: it's the story of Lou misleading. It makes you think
Speaker 1: the wholepisode is going to be about Lou and it's not.
Speaker 1: This episode has been so much more than about It's
Speaker 1: not about the big chunk. Remember Julia TB Julia Style's conversation,
Speaker 1: but most of the Big Brother conversations with them like
Speaker 1: laying around on like you know, their couches, but they're
Speaker 1: big like comforts on them and they're like I think
Speaker 1: I'm like do you think I'm an Amanda? And they
Speaker 1: they're they're only points. They're like trying to figure out
Speaker 1: who they are to the outside world who's watching, which
Speaker 1: is like that's something we didn't see on reality like
Speaker 1: five years ago. Who do you think Bowen would be
Speaker 1: Pat's favorite queen? Because I think I know, Oh this
Speaker 1: is so hard. I think I know who would be
Speaker 1: his favorite queen. I think he would appreciate Tricksy because
Speaker 1: of her. It has it has to be someone who's
Speaker 1: not that self aware. So really someone who I guess
Speaker 1: knows the assigned. I don't know someone who knows the assignment,
Speaker 1: but it's also like not fully tapped into what makes
Speaker 1: them watchable. I think that's maybe I'm like misreading what
Speaker 1: Pat response to it. So it's like it's it's knowing,
Speaker 1: but like Lisa Wrenna knows the ASA, but she's still
Speaker 1: not authentic because she's trying to The assignment is to
Speaker 1: just be authentic, and so if you're trying to do that,
Speaker 1: then you're not you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: like I don't know what that means in the Rue
Speaker 1: Paul verse, but for House, I think it's like I
Speaker 1: truly think it's like maybe a cheat. I think actually,
Speaker 1: like when I'm something for everybody, um, when I've seen
Speaker 1: drug shows like around town. I think when I'm the
Speaker 1: ones that I when I'm impressed or like when I'm
Speaker 1: the ones that I get in, the moments that I
Speaker 1: get into are like the fun, like impressive, almost like athletic,
Speaker 1: like um dance stuff. I will say that watching a
Speaker 1: live drag performance is so far away from what the
Speaker 1: entertainment value of drag race. So but having you having
Speaker 1: said that, I do think you'd like as you like
Speaker 1: a Lissa, you like cheat G. You might even like
Speaker 1: Kennedy because Kennedy is authentic, and I think that when
Speaker 1: I wanted, even though she's not the most interesting engaging queen,
Speaker 1: I love Kennedy. Love Kennedy, I think, and I think
Speaker 1: that I agree that I think what I would respond
Speaker 1: too is not necessarily like. I think that the one
Speaker 1: who I who's drag I like the best wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 1: be the one who I like the best, but I
Speaker 1: would on a personal level. Yeah, I think you would
Speaker 1: hate the like look queens. You would not like. You
Speaker 1: would not be a Violet trash key fan, you would
Speaker 1: not be a Pearl fan. I might like that though
Speaker 1: I like the like the realism of like I like
Speaker 1: when I feel like, they're really recognizable characters from my
Speaker 1: life that I've seen, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: when it's Ago, I know that woman, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That's fun to me. But then I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait then do isn't it just like characters the Drag
Speaker 1: Race too. That it's that's very interesting is that it's
Speaker 1: a show about professional attaining some sort of professional success
Speaker 1: or actualization, where it's you know, might be true in
Speaker 1: the Housewives the World, but it's like you're watching these
Speaker 1: people grow as artists, and so you might respond to
Speaker 1: certain narratives about people like learning and learn, like figuring
Speaker 1: out in the moment what makes them great. I feel
Speaker 1: like maybe like a Kimchi Pat would like or someone
Speaker 1: you know, someone who has like this great arc of
Speaker 1: like I don't know what I'm like, I don't I'm
Speaker 1: out of my league here, and then who like totally
Speaker 1: I always respond to that. My favorite genre of movie
Speaker 1: is like Girl in Big City, like trying to make it,
Speaker 1: and I think you would like I recently just mist
Speaker 1: Frances Hat and I really liked that. Lady Bird is
Speaker 1: the only great growing movie I've seen. I've never seen
Speaker 1: Lady Burt. You would love like that. I want to
Speaker 1: say one thing about All Stars coming up. Somebody told
Speaker 1: me a hint about some tea, and I will say,
Speaker 1: if this tea is true, it is going to be
Speaker 1: a unpredictable and very fun season. You can you say
Speaker 1: what that t is. If I said the tea, it
Speaker 1: would actually be sort of revealing the success of one
Speaker 1: or two contestants. And therefore I will tell you after
Speaker 1: if you want to know, I will not get mad
Speaker 1: at you because I have been really through it on
Speaker 1: this podcast and in my private life about potentially ruining
Speaker 1: quote unquote things. But I don't think that. I think
Speaker 1: that people are out again me is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Are always okay? So but I'm being brave into yes famously.
Speaker 1: And something that the listeners can look forward to in is,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe some specific content relating to drag race
Speaker 1: on culture. There definitely will be and and yeah, we're
Speaker 1: we're taking a stand, you know, you know, we're taking
Speaker 1: a stand outside of the regular episode release, Cadence. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you've listened to our episodes in the past with
Speaker 1: Josh Sharpen and Jackson and also Nicole Silverberg where we
Speaker 1: talked entirely about RuPaul jack Race of the entire time.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll be that will be, it
Speaker 1: might not be that in depth, but we're going to
Speaker 1: be discussing it absolutely. Okay, let's move on it. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Yeah, I get so nervous for
Speaker 1: that's insane because you're the icon and that's fine. And
Speaker 1: that's why because you think that Heavy is the crown,
Speaker 1: Heavy is the ground and that is at least of
Speaker 1: inner pump quote is it really? What's the best real house?
Speaker 1: Heavy had the words? So what I'm thinking about now
Speaker 1: is like what Luian's headline won't be, And this is
Speaker 1: what I've settled on. This is what this is what
Speaker 1: I would pitch M. I have the right to remain silent,
Speaker 1: but I'll always speak my truth. Can I send it
Speaker 1: to I would love to be that guy that writes
Speaker 1: that I wanted. I want to know. This is how
Speaker 1: you know when you like see like I remember seeing
Speaker 1: like um like behind the scenes verge of like Ashley
Speaker 1: Simpson like writing her songs and it's like some guy
Speaker 1: like old guy with her in a studio and they're
Speaker 1: like collaborating together for like hours. Like That's how I picture,
Speaker 1: like those taglines getting rid, Like each housewife goes in
Speaker 1: and they like they have like a twelve hour Like
Speaker 1: who are you sing about the housewives that are like
Speaker 1: pathetic and nothing? Their taglines are always like I'm always
Speaker 1: extre mad about them. Was like like when Kristen was like,
Speaker 1: pretty is not as nice as it looks. I was
Speaker 1: like the previous season, her first season, she got shipped
Speaker 1: because her tagline was I may not be smart, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty, and then she got shipped, so they said
Speaker 1: pretty is not as dumb as pretty as not as
Speaker 1: dumb as or something like that. It was just so,
Speaker 1: But I actually like, I like Kristen Takeman like I
Speaker 1: don't need you to strong like I need to feel like,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I know christ and Tykeman if
Speaker 1: I if I saw her, I connect with her emotional controversial.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, I am not here for housewives
Speaker 1: that are young. They're not always they're hit or mess.
Speaker 1: I don't want young housewives. I want housewives in their
Speaker 1: forties who feel like there's something on the line totally
Speaker 1: even if there's not, because they're rich and taken care
Speaker 1: of her life. They you can see the panic like
Speaker 1: in their eyes. Because what I love is when there's
Speaker 1: a nice balance, when there's a cask with like a
Speaker 1: thirty year old like and then there's but also like
Speaker 1: a five year old. Yeah, yeah, well anyway, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do it. I don't think so, honey, because there's obviously
Speaker 1: I mean, this episode is looking back onto seventeen and
Speaker 1: looking forward to as in eighteen, and there's so much
Speaker 1: to discuss, but we do have to eventually end it.
Speaker 1: So now we have to do I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: despite your fears, so okay, but to a sewage those fears,
Speaker 1: you know, Matt and I will go first, as we'll
Speaker 1: always go first. Thank you always set you up for
Speaker 1: success things. Don't you ever forget that? Thank you? Okay, man,
Speaker 1: do you want to go first? Or shall I? I'll
Speaker 1: go first? Okay, alright, this is Matt Rodgers is I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. People with regrets, okay, because guess what,
Speaker 1: they're in the past. And unless you have a little
Speaker 1: um time machine. Doc Brown asked, bitch, you can't go back,
Speaker 1: and so why would you even waste time saying that
Speaker 1: you have regrets. Guess what that then that happened two
Speaker 1: thousand four. You will never go back there, so look forward, honey.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, regrets. Why would you even
Speaker 1: waste someone's time saying that you have regrets unless you
Speaker 1: don't want them to to make that mistake in the
Speaker 1: future and in that way, and if that's true, don't
Speaker 1: frame it like one of my biggest regrets is you
Speaker 1: have to frame it like, honey, for the future, dot
Speaker 1: dot dot and never mentioned regrets because regrets are you know,
Speaker 1: regrets are not this season's highest fashion accessory. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what is confidence? And button five seconds? What's wrong
Speaker 1: with being confident? Let me tell you something. What do
Speaker 1: I regret? Nothing? And I'm so sorry I impose on
Speaker 1: the sanctity of your I don't think I thought your
Speaker 1: time was up. I thought we were going to suck
Speaker 1: on it. That's why I spoke up the bed. Can
Speaker 1: I tell you something I wanted to? I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: People who don't courtesy flush because earlier today I had
Speaker 1: to piss someone's ship off the side of the bowl
Speaker 1: and that was my chet, so converse, I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to give you up, but he took a big explosive
Speaker 1: ship and clung to the walls of the toilet, and
Speaker 1: I had to when I went in after him, I
Speaker 1: had to piss the ship off the sides of the bowl,
Speaker 1: and that his friendship. I actually actually wrote a song
Speaker 1: about this. Cool. Really, you want to perform it now? Sure? Okay,
Speaker 1: um let save it from the end of the podcast.
Speaker 1: We can do it at the end because we traditionally
Speaker 1: ended with a song about this, Okay, so we'll And
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, firstly, I hate when you're at like
Speaker 1: like I was just out of brunch and I and like,
Speaker 1: I hate when you're at like a close space and
Speaker 1: this is I don't think this is my I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. But like when you when the flush
Speaker 1: is not strong and it's like you can't the onus
Speaker 1: is on you to press down or or when you
Speaker 1: flush it and it's just like it doesn't really do
Speaker 1: anything and you have to like, wait, I have to
Speaker 1: step in because it doesn't matter. That's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: If you are leaving the bathroom and it looks like
Speaker 1: you've used it, I agree, but I'm saying it, and
Speaker 1: I don't care if you leave your piss in the
Speaker 1: toilet because to save water. That's disgusting, especially if you're
Speaker 1: a p is highlight er yellow. You're sick, You're sick mentally,
Speaker 1: physical and treatment and see that, because you know what, honey,
Speaker 1: you're really sick actually, And you know what's funny about
Speaker 1: this whole thing. This is what I'm saying is a
Speaker 1: lot more engaging than my actual I don't think so,
Speaker 1: but all but I don't think, honey, is going to
Speaker 1: be real boring, but everything else is going to be
Speaker 1: so so, so so so good. Um, I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: my phone for this because so can you get your
Speaker 1: phone out of time? My phone keeps falling on the ground.
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, you have to actually, I guess no,
Speaker 1: I just I just need to reference. Um, it's such
Speaker 1: a scene right now, be looking from my phone. Okay,
Speaker 1: just use my just use just alright, this is I
Speaker 1: don't think I have my phone. I was like, I
Speaker 1: have to pee and I'm like thinking about that. Well,
Speaker 1: stop thinking about that, because you're somewhere really where you
Speaker 1: have to focus, all right. I don't know, honey, bone
Speaker 1: and your time starts now, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: The general manager of the Colorado Ski and Golf on
Speaker 1: Havana Street in Denver, Colorado. Bitch, I had to get
Speaker 1: my ski boots re sized because one of your salesman
Speaker 1: sold me a shitty Solomon boot, and Honey, I had to.
Speaker 1: I was in horrible pain last year when I was skiing,
Speaker 1: and my dad was f livid. Was like, we have
Speaker 1: to do we have to correct this, to do something.
Speaker 1: So next year, which you know is this year. I e.
Speaker 1: We go to the Ski and Golf off we say
Speaker 1: someone sold us a terrible product that gave me horrible
Speaker 1: last year. Can you please help us? George at Colorado
Speaker 1: Ski and Golf, the general manager roundly ignored us for
Speaker 1: the better part of forty five fucking minutes until a
Speaker 1: nice young man, Zach, came and said, we will heap
Speaker 1: these up seconds, span the width and expand where where
Speaker 1: is the pressure. I will help you, Zach. I love
Speaker 1: you so much, but I I will. I will. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something. I'm responsible. Call three or three
Speaker 1: three seven four to complain about the general manager. George.
Speaker 1: I've never done this before, but I will use my
Speaker 1: platform too. Sick my supporters, I don't see you getting
Speaker 1: your fucking notebook out and right in that because it's
Speaker 1: not because I don't. And George of your list question,
Speaker 1: and George, if you're listening, Treatment, I have a few
Speaker 1: things to say about that one. George Treatment to come
Speaker 1: into the stage. Solomon boot free. Zach will always be
Speaker 1: the savior. Zach was the and was he hot? He
Speaker 1: was hot. You can't be named Zach, can not be
Speaker 1: hot to work at a ski shop and rule culture
Speaker 1: number fifty one, you can't be named Zach. You can
Speaker 1: and working a ski shop and Zach Zach, I will say,
Speaker 1: is the platonic ideal of a salesperson who explain he's
Speaker 1: just so helpful, he was so understanding, he listened, and
Speaker 1: here's the thing he might work for. He might work
Speaker 1: on commission the service that he provided for me free
Speaker 1: of charge. He said, this is totally free. You bought
Speaker 1: the boot from us, We get to we get to
Speaker 1: recustomize this for you, totally free. And you know what,
Speaker 1: but that being but that being said, called their place
Speaker 1: his points of employment and complain, no, no, no, don't
Speaker 1: don't even do this. No no, no, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: released the phone number, not not not to do the
Speaker 1: number not to attack the establishment, but to one complain
Speaker 1: about George, but to please, please please get zachar promotion
Speaker 1: or a pay raise. Zach deserves that. I love Zach
Speaker 1: very much z because what could he be making? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but he deserves to be making so much more.
Speaker 1: He was so well spoken, so nice, so genteel. I
Speaker 1: loved him. I love za. Yah. It sounds like a
Speaker 1: really good guy. Okay, so you know, um time has come. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. This is gonna be pat Regans.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, and his time starts now. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Bread because my days eighteen
Speaker 1: thing is less bread, just less. But I don't like
Speaker 1: the way it's insidious, invites me every day for lunch.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going to have any bread, butch
Speaker 1: and all. I started considering options, all road leaved the bread,
Speaker 1: and guess what puts me? I need a twelve hours
Speaker 1: sleep after I've had even one slice of bread. And
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like the way it
Speaker 1: makes me feel. I don't like the way it tempts me.
Speaker 1: I don't like the way it makes my body look.
Speaker 1: I don't like makes me feel bloated, like I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey bread like it's involved in every single dish.
Speaker 1: It's all over and it ruins lives, it ruins family, damaging,
Speaker 1: It affects my entire day. I can't escape from it.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere like it. I think, it acts like gets
Speaker 1: my friend and I want it, and then when I
Speaker 1: eat it, I feel so so tired. My brain gets
Speaker 1: tired as it is right now because guess what, I
Speaker 1: ate bread. Even though I said I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: me in the beginning of a teen I'm gonna eat
Speaker 1: less bread. Also in the beginning of a team eating bread.
Speaker 1: And that's what I hate about bread. You can't trust
Speaker 1: that as far as you can throw it on things. Honey,
Speaker 1: bread makes me so fucking tired. It's like an ambient
Speaker 1: pill shaped like by that. If you sell bread to
Speaker 1: be able see treat man, honey, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Come on? Deliver God? Thank God. It's like when Meryl.
Speaker 1: It's like when Meryl is in the post and she
Speaker 1: gives another amazing performance. It's like she did it again,
Speaker 1: but bat has done it again. All right, now, listen,
Speaker 1: how does mouthing over the mic that he has to
Speaker 1: pee so bad. I guess that we have to in
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Speaker 1: as Pat is getting ready to go pee, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sing a song about courtesy flush. This is Yang last Coltress,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers, last Culturas. We've just Pat Regan.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Now, you gotta courtesy flush. If you
Speaker 1: wanna be my husband, cournecy flush with you, leave the toilet,
Speaker 1: because if you want to leave your pie and up,
Speaker 1: you gotta curne flash. If you wanna be my husband,
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, be fine, leave the toilet, because
Speaker 1: if you want to be with me baby and someday
Speaker 1: adopt a kid, you gotta courtesy flash. Ah your pianship.
Speaker 1: You need a flush two times. You need a flush
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