Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer did I'mheart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's almost this school year. Yet again, I
Speaker 2: feel like summer has flown by. This is a big
Speaker 2: mile year. It is. You. I thought, for some reason,
Speaker 2: since our boys were the same age, they would be
Speaker 2: going to kindergarten. I started him early. You did, which
Speaker 2: is interesting because don't they usually hold boys back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we did a junior so we do a homeschool co
Speaker 2: op though, two days a week, so I am his teacher.
Speaker 2: For the most part. He was really not challenged in
Speaker 2: his junior kindergarten program. But also I think because he
Speaker 2: has an older sister, you know, those older kids just
Speaker 2: kind of push you along. So I did put him
Speaker 2: in kinder thought we might have to repeat kinder but
Speaker 2: he's going to go to first.
Speaker 1: He's going to do first. Yeah, I was wondering of.
Speaker 1: And you're still going to do the co op right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We did. Last year they offered a first second
Speaker 2: split though grade, so I'm kind of hoping that they
Speaker 2: would do that again. You may kind of do like
Speaker 2: a first and then a first again because there's you guys,
Speaker 2: it's not the same curriculum when we were little like
Speaker 2: they're having to do everything so much earlier now that
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: Is yours the same curriculum is ours? In probably not.
Speaker 2: No, but a little different just everything. I think in general,
Speaker 2: society has got them like boosted up a bit. Like
Speaker 2: I wasn't reading in kindergarten and now a lot of
Speaker 2: them are reading coming out of kindergarten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that that's different for all
Speaker 1: kids for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and then Love will be third grade. She'll still
Speaker 1: be third I know. Sometimes in the co ops they
Speaker 1: get a little like ahead or not ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we stay, we stay, like we just keep we
Speaker 2: keep on rocking. So she'll go to third grade. And again,
Speaker 2: like it's up to my preference, you know, like I
Speaker 2: can tailor it, which is great, but it's also tricky
Speaker 2: because Legend is not a reader. He's a strong math guy.
Speaker 2: And I feel like kids tend to be one or
Speaker 2: the other.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: How long do you think you'll homeschool it for? I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think for a while. I see it
Speaker 2: in our little world, to our little section of the world,
Speaker 2: with homeschooling, I see a lot of parents move to
Speaker 2: like right around eighth or ninth they start to move
Speaker 2: into public just because I think, like sports and things,
Speaker 2: they just seem to want more.
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine throwing them into public school in high school.
Speaker 2: I can't either, Honestly. That's why I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: because that feels.
Speaker 1: I'm not judging it. I'm just saying I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: Just like, but actually we had a friend that did that.
Speaker 1: I take that back, but it's just seems like that's
Speaker 1: a lot like whoa all at once?
Speaker 2: Yet also we would take out for middle and then
Speaker 2: put in you know what I mean, Like we've kind
Speaker 2: of talked about that one fist. Yeah, I so it's
Speaker 2: almost like I would homeschool middle school for sure. Then
Speaker 2: it's going right back into the gauntlet in there.
Speaker 1: I do think though, and I'm sure this is obviously
Speaker 1: not true for a lot a lot of kids, but
Speaker 1: I do think middle school seems to be a little
Speaker 1: bit harder, oh than high school. But is that going
Speaker 1: to be make high school kind of that new transition,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, cause it's me, I
Speaker 1: don't know, because transition.
Speaker 2: My educational capability keeping them home and I don't even yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I mean, I don't have the
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know where you find the time,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, obviously you find the time,
Speaker 2: because that's like I find the time to work out
Speaker 2: every morning, like you know, so we find times. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I have the patience, so maybe it's
Speaker 2: not the time. I don't think I have the patience
Speaker 2: to homeschool, yes, which is why I've been like, all right,
Speaker 2: you know, Alan, you know, Mike, can you guys teach
Speaker 2: Julie how to tire shoes or bite? Because I just
Speaker 2: I'm I'm fast to not being patient. Yeah, And also
Speaker 2: like the kids are different, like Love loves to learn
Speaker 2: from me, loves it. Yeah, Legend likes to learn math
Speaker 2: from me, but he doesn't want to talk about reading. Well,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even know how to teach any of that,
Speaker 2: to be honest. Like sometimes I read some of Joey's
Speaker 2: homework and I'm like, wait, okay, wait, what I'm re
Speaker 2: educating my second grade? Like it's weird how much we
Speaker 2: forget or how much you start to second guess yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, and they learn differently everybody. Well, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying now they learn like math, they don't learn the
Speaker 1: way we learn how math.
Speaker 2: It's new math.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, And so I'm like, well, I know
Speaker 1: the answer, but if you have to actually like put
Speaker 1: out how you got it, I can't help you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. And also like there's times where I've
Speaker 2: wondered if Legend is actually more of a public school fit,
Speaker 2: because he five years a week feels like it could
Speaker 2: be more comfortable to him. Oh for sure. But I
Speaker 2: also with our lifestyle, love that I can take them
Speaker 2: out and we can go here. I founded a loophole
Speaker 2: you can in public school. So here's the loophole because
Speaker 2: I found this out when Jolie was doing the movie,
Speaker 2: because I was always like, well, I don't want to
Speaker 2: pay for private school because it's expensive, even though you
Speaker 2: can take out you know, whenever you want. But with
Speaker 2: public you can disnroll and re enroll, and it's not
Speaker 2: that complicated at all. It's like a one cheeter. I
Speaker 2: have as many times as you want. Wait, so like
Speaker 2: for a month, yeah, as many times as you want.
Speaker 2: So like, for example, Jolie missed fourteen days of school,
Speaker 2: obviously you're not so simis anymore. I think I was
Speaker 2: like eight or whatever. And then you get in trouble.
Speaker 2: But most people it's like between that, like twelve and fifteen.
Speaker 2: Then that's when they're like, all right, they you have
Speaker 2: a call with the people, the principle or whatever. And
Speaker 2: when I had called just kind of explaining what she
Speaker 2: was doing, she's like, well, if it was any more,
Speaker 2: She's like, we'd probably just have you distan' roll and
Speaker 2: then Rene roll. And I was like, oh, wait, tell
Speaker 2: me more. So then I was like, how many times
Speaker 2: can I do that? She's like, as many times as
Speaker 2: you want. She's like people, She's like, we have a
Speaker 2: lot of athlete kids that are in our school district
Speaker 2: that do it a couple times a year. So like
Speaker 2: the state doesn't get involved. Then I mean, if the
Speaker 2: state only gets involved and the kids are not in
Speaker 2: a school system, no, in a safe home, like you
Speaker 2: can just distan' roll and ren roll. I legally have
Speaker 2: to be registered somewhere for school, Like I have an
Speaker 2: umbrella school, I have to read it all. So what you
Speaker 2: would do is you would just they would have to
Speaker 2: be a homeschooling So like she just had her like
Speaker 2: paperwork from like school. This is to say that she's
Speaker 2: still on this grade and doing the homeschooling, so like
Speaker 2: she just gave the teacher like a packet of stuff.
Speaker 2: They didn't really even check it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so that's showing that she's doing school. So
Speaker 1: you would have to prove something that's that's like.
Speaker 2: My umbrella, yes, because you can't just like one off
Speaker 2: feeling no, I can't anything. Yeah, but like you would
Speaker 2: never not teach your kids, right, so right, but you
Speaker 2: could still so that you could still do public and
Speaker 2: then just in our district at least, that's what she
Speaker 2: taught me. I was like, because it's one of the
Speaker 2: things that I've always kind of gone okay, but we
Speaker 2: you know, like last year, Preston had a ton of stuff,
Speaker 2: like based in Florida for like January, so we just
Speaker 2: like had a house in the neighborhood at the other
Speaker 2: half of the duo and we just hunkered for like
Speaker 2: a few weeks because it just kept us all a
Speaker 2: family together. Well, I know plenty of well I know
Speaker 2: specifically a mom whose daughter has missed like more than
Speaker 2: twenty and like she just has a good relationship with
Speaker 2: the principal and the I've heard that too, So it's
Speaker 2: you know, as long as you're communicating with them. It's
Speaker 2: not like you're taking them out for or they're not
Speaker 2: safe in the home. This is and I also just
Speaker 2: understand like the testing and all those things, like they
Speaker 2: really do need the kids in there for attendances blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. But also, yeah, no, they're young. It's the time, right,
Speaker 2: It's okay too. Yeah. Well, also I think at least
Speaker 2: it seems resonating, Like with our school districts around us,
Speaker 2: everyone's more focused on like just family. We have a
Speaker 2: really we live in a really great area for that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: where it's like we want families to be together and
Speaker 2: experience and right, that's incredible. So that's interesting, good to know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you can keep that little tidbit in your pocket. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or when you are ready for love or legend as
Speaker 2: there's been days where I'm like public school five days
Speaker 2: a week, I could own the.
Speaker 1: World, Like you don't feel like it's just a.
Speaker 2: Weird, Like I think, like what would it be like
Speaker 2: if they left in the morning.
Speaker 1: Well, think about summer, like when you're pulled like you're
Speaker 1: like that all the time though.
Speaker 2: Like summer is the same as like for summer, So
Speaker 2: everything traumatizing for me, My girlfriend and I just had
Speaker 2: this conversation. She was like, oh, the parents go in
Speaker 2: haywire right now, and you guys are like please yeah,
Speaker 2: well every day I will say this though, even in
Speaker 2: our world, like there's more structure on school in school
Speaker 2: months and so like even lately, I've been like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we need to bring some sort of like rhythm to
Speaker 2: the house because Leggie does really well with structure. Even
Speaker 2: though he didn't, I think everybody does. Yeah. Well, maybe
Speaker 2: that's just a types unite hands in on three. I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: so then our girl, I know the ages of our kids.
Speaker 2: We all rolled together. But then you go, does anybody
Speaker 2: transition to big school like.
Speaker 1: We did all that last year? Okay, that's right, we tried.
Speaker 1: We started middle school and in high school last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you'll bake it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're making it. Yeah, I know you'll make it.
Speaker 2: Don't scare us.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Puberty is happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a lot. It's just yesterday.
Speaker 2: What's puberty? I know, I said, it's a really precious
Speaker 2: and confusing stage between childhood and adulthood. I didn't know
Speaker 2: how to.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's honestly I haven't, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: puberty hasn't been that bad. Really, it's just your kids
Speaker 1: are so sweet. Yeah, I mean they're great. They're just
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the people are around them that
Speaker 1: stressed me out.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm nervous about period. It is so great.
Speaker 1: Learned so much the other day I took I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say this on air, but I took I took Kit
Speaker 1: into camp the other day and uh, we were waiting
Speaker 1: in line for like an hour to check out coed.
Speaker 1: Well it's a church camp that is co ed, but
Speaker 1: there's literally church camp stand same same human young yes,
Speaker 1: all same. This one though, is like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, Like people get kicked out left and right
Speaker 1: for stepping over the line. I'm like, okay, guys, it's
Speaker 1: sneaking kisses at church anyway. So I so I know
Speaker 1: he's like anyway. So we start. We just start talking
Speaker 1: and I just start asking very I'm very good with
Speaker 1: Emmy and asking very specific questions, and like with him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, we're in high school, Like I
Speaker 1: haven't asked that. And I just started asking very specific
Speaker 1: questions and he started answering all my questions what like
Speaker 1: about his friends and who's doing what and who. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could have guessed, but I didn't know for sure,
Speaker 1: and he just like started talking and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't react, Like I cannot.
Speaker 2: React your intuition. Absolutely, I'm not ready out sweating absolutely,
Speaker 2: like about sex.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I mean leading up to it, and then
Speaker 1: what they're getting into, like drug wise and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: What are the drugs of choice now at that age?
Speaker 1: Weed? Right now, weed and vaping is starting.
Speaker 2: Doctor Aman would say, and that's the worst drug you
Speaker 2: can take, yeah, because it's a slow brain killer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're doing like those cartridges again. You know.
Speaker 1: He is so so straight laced in the sense that
Speaker 1: like he even he's like the one friend that I
Speaker 1: know for sure. When I found out, he was like,
Speaker 1: just don't get it in front of me, and he's
Speaker 1: like I never would, And I was like, well anyone
Speaker 1: else and he was like probably, but they keep it
Speaker 1: from me, Like he's that passionate about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like still the cool kid and he's.
Speaker 1: Still friends with so many kids. So but anyway, I
Speaker 1: was just like, don't react, don't react, they'll never tell.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's hard. I didn't ask that specifically.
Speaker 2: I would like you to report back.
Speaker 1: I wanted to about a certain person, but I did not.
Speaker 1: But he told me a story about him that was
Speaker 1: leading up to it, and like he's a bad situation.
Speaker 1: Caden's fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my high school sweetheart was fifteen. A lot
Speaker 2: of people were you guys. I had to wait, I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm going to embarrass myself. Cancer. I was sixteen. Cancel
Speaker 2: what I was gonna say? Canceling? I just got my
Speaker 2: period so late? Well same, I was sixteen. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: really I was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was sick when you were so surprised with
Speaker 1: our kids. Oh okay.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's normal.
Speaker 2: And that's why I asked when did she because I
Speaker 2: was so I was such a late bloomer.
Speaker 1: I was late.
Speaker 2: I had been eating like problems and was really thin.
Speaker 2: But I mean said, yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's she has been very thin, like
Speaker 1: as a small person, but like not now. I mean
Speaker 1: she's really like kind of filled out.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was normal to be that back
Speaker 2: in our age. As later, I thought it was like
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: I was the second to last person in all the
Speaker 1: people I knew, and I was middle school, seventh grade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixth I'm waiting. It's I always wondered if the
Speaker 2: surgery I had in my back had anything to do
Speaker 2: with the delay of the thirteen when they put the
Speaker 2: rods in No, when you had your sixteen Oh yeah, okay, same,
Speaker 2: I was for you.
Speaker 1: Twelve did you get? But I was like the second
Speaker 1: to last one too, I think it.
Speaker 2: I was like nineteen.
Speaker 1: The problem is is that I've never really had.
Speaker 2: Never got Boos's why I got. I never got boobs.
Speaker 1: I bought boobs. Yeah, but you can tell kind of
Speaker 1: when an idea of when it's going to happen, you know,
Speaker 1: based on Joel.
Speaker 2: That's a funny boob conversation. Because we were in Target
Speaker 2: getting some things and she was like, Mommy, can I
Speaker 2: get this? And they were little sports bras with they
Speaker 2: were with the padded ones, and I was like, no, honey,
Speaker 2: you can't get those, but we can get these the
Speaker 2: other ones that were just like the regular training bras.
Speaker 2: But I was like eight, I know, And I also
Speaker 2: do love them wearing something because we cartwheel and and
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, our sports something. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm always like Amy, don't you want to get a pad?
Speaker 1: She say no, people will know. I'm like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: nothing like me.
Speaker 2: I remember what I did, to be honest with you all.
Speaker 2: I never stuffed.
Speaker 1: I know that I didn't like in front of people.
Speaker 2: Get home to There was a girl sort of a
Speaker 2: visualation visualization, but I won't say which friend. I know, well, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: because they're so sweet. One of my Michigan girlfriends, we
Speaker 2: were to sleepover and we found tissues in one of
Speaker 2: our friends pros bless, I know. But then her brothers
Speaker 2: put them in the freezer.
Speaker 1: So we did that? Did we do that?
Speaker 2: I wish I could say his full name, but I won't,
Speaker 2: just in case he turned out to be a really
Speaker 2: good human in Jesus name. But Dan used to say,
Speaker 2: to his last name, that's true, there's only one trillion Dan's.
Speaker 2: Dan used to say, I was a carpenter's dream. Flat
Speaker 2: as a board, Oh yeah, that was Bobby was the
Speaker 2: he took. He took the binder and he goes flat
Speaker 2: as a board. Yeah, and you're now baby, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: I remember reunion and one of the guys had grown
Speaker 2: like a like literally a foot since high school and
Speaker 2: he was always a tall guy. And he goes, he's like,
Speaker 2: my last name was white, you know, and so he's like, whitey,
Speaker 2: did you see that? Like he's like, look at and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I can see, and I go
Speaker 2: and you can probably see from up there that I
Speaker 2: also bloomed late. And I was like, I was so
Speaker 2: proud because I just always wanted can we talk about
Speaker 2: high school re unions really fast? Because well, we have
Speaker 2: our guest is here, so let's I want to pinant
Speaker 2: and talk about it after Tracy. We've got Tracy to
Speaker 2: coming on. She is in Million Dollar Listening in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Season fifteen is premiering already on on Bravo. New episodes
Speaker 2: are on Wednesday. Let's get her on to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, Hi, Hey, So.
Speaker 2: I love Million Dollar Listening because I feel like it's
Speaker 2: so I do watch would you call it the competitor
Speaker 2: show or would you call it just a brothers.
Speaker 3: On which show you're talking about?
Speaker 2: The other selling of shows?
Speaker 3: Selling Sunset?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I didn't want a straight upset, but yeah, Sellie, yeah,
Speaker 2: Tracy well Trace, Tracy, well no, because I like I
Speaker 2: watched Selling Sunset too, But I feel like I watched
Speaker 2: the two shows for different reasons, Like I feel like
Speaker 2: there's more drama on Selling Sunset. I feel like there's
Speaker 2: more how and you know listings on your show. Did
Speaker 2: you get asked to go on the other one or
Speaker 2: is a million dollar Like yeah, kind of like what's
Speaker 2: your thoughts on both?
Speaker 3: Our show has been on obviously a lot longer than
Speaker 3: Selling Sunset, so I was already attached to million dollar
Speaker 3: listing when Selling Sunset started airing. It's a different show.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't necessarily say it's a competitive show with us. Again,
Speaker 3: for the same reasons you said. I think that show
Speaker 3: is more Our show is more living in reality, and
Speaker 3: I think that show is more soapy with a real
Speaker 3: estate backdrop. Totally entertaining, but just different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your show motivates me in a different way, Like
Speaker 2: it's very boss style, Like I'm like, oh okay, Like
Speaker 2: I'm digging in and I know I'm learning and I
Speaker 2: really enjoy that. And I also love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Selling Senset motivates me to make sure stay on
Speaker 3: the treadmill.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I watch.
Speaker 2: It on mute, going to lie you look great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to learn about houses when I'm watching
Speaker 1: though you know. I mean, I want to actually learn
Speaker 1: about real estate when I'm watching it, and that's what
Speaker 1: I love about.
Speaker 2: Well, her husband's a realtor here in Nashville. He's helped
Speaker 2: me buy sell all of.
Speaker 1: My Yeah, but then I watched these shows and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a completely different level.
Speaker 3: But I love it though, So yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2: Was this something you always dreamed you would do or
Speaker 2: kind of always knew you would know?
Speaker 3: I was an actor, Like I went to theater school
Speaker 3: at USC I wanted to do Broadway and you know,
Speaker 3: a post college, I was auditioning a lot and kind
Speaker 3: of woke up one day and said, oh my god,
Speaker 3: am I going to just wake up an audition every
Speaker 3: single day for the rest of my life and maybe
Speaker 3: be that one percent that hits. I wanted financial independence,
Speaker 3: and so why the heck I picked real estate. But
Speaker 3: it's worked out. It's worked out for me. And really, truly,
Speaker 3: I think the education that I got from studying theater
Speaker 3: for so long and figuring out how to present myself
Speaker 3: and walk into a room and really audition is not
Speaker 3: very different from what I have to do when I
Speaker 3: walk into a listing appointment and have to connect with
Speaker 3: a seller or take a buyer through a house. So
Speaker 3: I never connected the two early on, but realized obviously
Speaker 3: later that it was probably one of the best educations
Speaker 3: I could have had walking into, you know, selling real
Speaker 3: estate for a living.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like being a woman in real estate
Speaker 2: is still different than being a man in real estate?
Speaker 2: Like do you feel like you have the same power
Speaker 2: when you walk into a room with a man?
Speaker 3: That's there depends on the man walking in the room,
Speaker 3: I guess, but you know, obviously, and I think any
Speaker 3: woman can speak to this in business, particularly a mother.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a mother of two teenage girls, and
Speaker 3: I think there still is that stigma that, you know, oh,
Speaker 3: she has to get home to the kids, or she
Speaker 3: can't work as late as he can or as hard
Speaker 3: as my male counterpart, because she has all these other responsibilities.
Speaker 3: And of course that is entirely untrue, but I think
Speaker 3: that stigma still exists. I think, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: as women in business, as we become more and more successful,
Speaker 3: we're working harder to break away from that that how
Speaker 3: people feel about women in business, particularly successful women in business.
Speaker 3: But it's still there, you know, I still walk into
Speaker 3: a room and I have to fight harder than my
Speaker 3: male counterpart for the listing. No matter if I've done
Speaker 3: more business than them and had more you know, sales
Speaker 3: than them and have a better track record, I still
Speaker 3: have to be more present than the man I might
Speaker 3: be competing against.
Speaker 2: See that, I'm just like still like why, Like I
Speaker 2: just don't understand, like if you're better for the job, Like,
Speaker 2: why does it matter if you're male or female.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, and I could be wrong side of
Speaker 1: other stats, but I feel like here when I see
Speaker 1: like our local real estate, that's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a lot of females, and my
Speaker 1: husband gets beat out by females all the time. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong, and maybe that's just maybe we just
Speaker 1: happen to have more females in the industry. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I've paid attention to that a lot because it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting and you are are you still the only
Speaker 1: female on the show?
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: Heather Alwin is the CEO of Josh Altman's team Right Life,
Speaker 3: so she's on the show with us. But as you know,
Speaker 3: as a cast member, obviously I was the first female
Speaker 3: on the show, right And so that's challenging. But to
Speaker 3: speak to what you were talking about in Nashville, that's nationwide,
Speaker 3: there are more female real estate agents than there are
Speaker 3: male agents. I think in the corporate world there are
Speaker 3: more men runningsurance and obviously some of the most successful
Speaker 3: men and women in this country. You know, there's certainly
Speaker 3: women in the top ten, they're just for more men.
Speaker 3: And I think what it boils down to is, you know,
Speaker 3: in the fifties, sixties, seventies, like early on homemakers and
Speaker 3: women who were staying at home with their kids, it
Speaker 3: sort of became like a jobby, like a woman knows
Speaker 3: how to make a house a home, so it was
Speaker 3: like this natural affinity to of course a woman should
Speaker 3: sell the home because a woman understands how to make
Speaker 3: a house feel homey and personal. And then, of course,
Speaker 3: you know, as with any industry, you know, it's obviously
Speaker 3: a very popular industry to be in. And then of
Speaker 3: course add all of these fabulous TV shows that glamorize
Speaker 3: what we do for a living. Everybody wants to do
Speaker 3: it because you know, the beauty of our business is
Speaker 3: the money can be infinite. There is no cap as
Speaker 3: to what you can make. It is only dependent on
Speaker 3: how good you are at sell it.
Speaker 2: See, if it wasn't for your husband, I would have
Speaker 2: a female, yeah, a real estate agent. And because I
Speaker 2: mean my team is ninety nine percent women, like I
Speaker 2: love like, I'm just like especially moms. I'm like, we
Speaker 2: work really hard. We have to work really hard. We
Speaker 2: have to provide for our kids. And I also like
Speaker 2: kind of your points, like the woman knows a house
Speaker 2: and how I'm like, if I can't see the vision,
Speaker 2: a woman's going to help me see the vision, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It where it was like,
Speaker 2: But I mean, obviously I'm loyal to next I'll always
Speaker 2: right keep it right, yeah, because I think that would
Speaker 2: kill our friendship.
Speaker 3: But we got I mean there's a certain level of
Speaker 3: we walk in. A woman walks into a house, and
Speaker 3: she knows where the heart of the home is. She
Speaker 3: knows some of the tweaks that we you know, that
Speaker 3: might need to be made to make it feel a
Speaker 3: little bit more special or right for the buyer. And
Speaker 3: that's just something I think that comes innately more to
Speaker 3: women than perhaps to men. But you know, it's a
Speaker 3: competitive field that we're in, and so you know, we
Speaker 3: have a lot of very successful men in the industry,
Speaker 3: and I'm lucky enough to be in that top percentage
Speaker 3: of women in our industry as well.
Speaker 2: What do you think your best selling point is as
Speaker 2: a as an agent?
Speaker 3: Confidence? I mean, I think you know, when you walk
Speaker 3: into a room and you know you're competing against maybe
Speaker 3: five or six different agents that have come in before you,
Speaker 3: you have those jitters. By the way, it's like walking
Speaker 3: into an audition. You know you're competing against whoever went
Speaker 3: in before you, or who they made an offer to,
Speaker 3: and they're looking at you as potentially a backup. All
Speaker 3: that anxiety. You have to know how to transition that
Speaker 3: anxiety into something super positive and that takes confidence. And
Speaker 3: I figured that out at a very early age. So
Speaker 3: I can walk into a room and primarily because I
Speaker 3: think my dad was so damn intimidating. I grew up
Speaker 3: around men that were like that, and I can be
Speaker 3: you know that woman that would walk in and be like,
Speaker 3: don't talk to her that way, dad, And so I
Speaker 3: have the ability to walk into a room with a
Speaker 3: very powerful man and not feel intimidated by him.
Speaker 2: I love that, and that's really special. Do your kids,
Speaker 2: how did the kids do with you? Being on TV.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we're going into cause season fifteen now,
Speaker 3: and I've been on the show since season ten, and
Speaker 3: you know, my kids were a little bit younger obviously
Speaker 3: when I first started the show, and now Juliet's eighteen
Speaker 3: and Scarlet sixteen, so in the last few years they've
Speaker 3: participated in the show a little bit. I think they're proud.
Speaker 3: I think they you know, as a single mom, they
Speaker 3: know how hard I work to you know, make sure
Speaker 3: that they can have all of the things that they
Speaker 3: have the luxury of, you know, having and money doesn't
Speaker 3: fall off trees. So when they see me wake up
Speaker 3: earlier than everybody else and you know, take calls later
Speaker 3: than you know most people would take calls, it's because
Speaker 3: I want to be I want to teach them how
Speaker 3: to be financially independent. So whenever I have that mom
Speaker 3: guilt and it creeps in all the time, you know,
Speaker 3: my daughters will remind me, listen, I know you can't
Speaker 3: be like at Magic Mountain doing you know, being supervising
Speaker 3: us when you know some of the other moms can
Speaker 3: do it. And I'm like, I wish I could be,
Speaker 3: but like I have to. This is a part of
Speaker 3: you know my job and this is what the trajectory
Speaker 3: looks like. And I have a plan, and they always
Speaker 3: tell me like, we're so proud of you, like we
Speaker 3: have so much respect for you. And it does give me,
Speaker 3: you know, it puts me at ease, I think. And
Speaker 3: I'm also I believe teaching them how to be financially
Speaker 3: independent as well at a very early age.
Speaker 2: I think it's a real gift, honestly, to have to
Speaker 2: be front row to watch someone like you be able
Speaker 2: to handle life like that. I think it's incredible. Do
Speaker 2: either of them seem to have interest in the industry
Speaker 2: at all? Or are they kind of they? Are you
Speaker 2: going to have your own little empire over there?
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows. But my eighteen year old Juliet
Speaker 3: is interned for US last summer or two summers ago,
Speaker 3: and then last summer she interned for an interior designer.
Speaker 3: And this summer I put her to work, like in
Speaker 3: a real job, and so she is working as a
Speaker 3: hostess at a restaurant in Beverly Hills. Because I feel
Speaker 3: like that is such a great way to learn how
Speaker 3: to deal with different personalities.
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 3: I feel like every teenager slash eighteen and above should
Speaker 3: have to wait tables at some point in their life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: And what it means to walk up to someone and
Speaker 3: have them treat you like and have to figure out
Speaker 3: how to respond to it professionally. It's an education that
Speaker 3: I don't think you can get, you know, at school.
Speaker 3: So she's doing that this summer, and believe it or not,
Speaker 3: she's having a good time, but she's coming home from work,
Speaker 3: Like she came home after like her first week and
Speaker 3: she was like, is this what it's like out there?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, it's hard in the street.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 2: How are you doing with all the headlines around you
Speaker 2: and Eric and just talking about you know, obviously a
Speaker 2: tough situation like heartbreak and going through breakup is not
Speaker 2: a lovely topic. But also, like you said, you're a
Speaker 2: strong woman. It's you know, you're obviously going through at
Speaker 2: the moment, and so how are you kind of dealing
Speaker 2: with all those pieces, you know while the show's airing.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because my first season on the show, I
Speaker 3: was married, and when I was brand new to the show,
Speaker 3: obviously the first female on the show, and really nervous
Speaker 3: about how I presented, you know, knowing how that could
Speaker 3: appear on television. I sort of went through that very privately,
Speaker 3: and it was really really difficult to navigate that. And
Speaker 3: you know, then, of course, when at the end of
Speaker 3: that season, when you know, the big black screen comes
Speaker 3: up and it says James and David are doing wonderful
Speaker 3: and they're having their first baby, and Josh and Heather
Speaker 3: like off to Aspen for the summer, and then it's
Speaker 3: like Tracy and Jason have filed for divorce, and it
Speaker 3: was it was really really difficult, and I felt obviously
Speaker 3: I wasn't as vulnerable in the first season out of
Speaker 3: you know, being nervous for my family, nervous for my children.
Speaker 3: And this time around, I made a choice that I
Speaker 3: was like, I am going to speak my truth. I
Speaker 3: am going to allow myself to be vulnerable in front
Speaker 3: of millions of people about you know, what I'm going
Speaker 3: through and what I'm living with an already you know,
Speaker 3: very very republic relationship because of our age difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was twenty one years nineteen nineteen, Okay, nineteen,
Speaker 2: let's not get worse. I know there, but there's a
Speaker 2: lot of women that have that are dating younger men now. Too,
Speaker 2: you know, so I feel like.
Speaker 3: It's definitely become more popular in recent years, and I
Speaker 3: decided to live it, and I you know, I told
Speaker 3: my showrunner, who I trusted implicitly, who was a woman,
Speaker 3: and I said, this is what I'm going through, and
Speaker 3: you know, I need you guys to just take the
Speaker 3: ride with me and be as sensitive as you possibly
Speaker 3: can to how I'm going to live through this on TV.
Speaker 3: And they were, and I was grateful to Bravo and
Speaker 3: grateful to my production company for how they handled it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't make the breakup any easier, but you know, it's
Speaker 3: now been some time and Eric and I have remained friends.
Speaker 3: He still trains me because I don't know what do
Speaker 3: I do without him, and you know, we've been able
Speaker 3: to kind of work through it and maintain a friendship,
Speaker 3: which has been really great because he's he's a great guy,
Speaker 3: and he came into my life for a reason, and
Speaker 3: for three and a half years, I think, you know,
Speaker 3: brought a lot to my life in terms of keeping
Speaker 3: me focused. He's not your typical like late twenties party boy.
Speaker 3: He was like, had me up at five point thirty
Speaker 3: in the morning to work out and make sure I
Speaker 3: was eating healthy and getting to bed early so that
Speaker 3: I could be ready for work. And I've never had
Speaker 3: anybody in my life like that before. So we've worked
Speaker 3: through it and we're maintaining a friendship. And you know,
Speaker 3: who knows what happens when either one of us gets
Speaker 3: into maybe a more serious relationship with.
Speaker 2: Some He's probably not going to train the new guy now,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure.
Speaker 3: She's not going to be you know, a new girlfriend
Speaker 3: of his might not be thrilled that he still trains
Speaker 3: in my guest house.
Speaker 2: Oh that's yeah, yeah, day by day? Will you the
Speaker 2: next season? Will you like, will you show dating and that? Like,
Speaker 2: will you be open on that side too?
Speaker 3: I mean tune in to see.
Speaker 2: We can see. We love a little cliffhanger.
Speaker 3: Tell you what it's. It's a ride dating in La,
Speaker 3: you know, like I let John, I let my friends know. Like, look,
Speaker 3: you guys know me better than anyone. If you think
Speaker 3: there might be someone that I might hit it off
Speaker 3: with or there could be good for me, I'm open
Speaker 3: to going out with them. So that happened.
Speaker 1: That happens, Stay tuned.
Speaker 2: Biggest red flags that you see from other realtors.
Speaker 3: Bravado that isn't aligned with any kind of background or
Speaker 3: understanding of what it takes to be successful in this business.
Speaker 2: I love Tracy get to Nashville. Let's sing out. Do
Speaker 2: you ever follow any other realtors and kind of see
Speaker 2: what they're doing, because I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: influence on social media can be beneficial to also selling
Speaker 2: or do you see the other way?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think a lot of a lot of agents
Speaker 3: have done really well on social media, and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like providing like education because there's so
Speaker 3: much media out there about what's happening in the market
Speaker 3: and what's positive and what's negative, and really like we
Speaker 3: are in our markets, like I know what is happening
Speaker 3: in Beverly Hills, bel Air, Malibu, the Palisades, the Valley
Speaker 3: because I'm living it every day. You know, the national
Speaker 3: news is going to tell a story that speaks to
Speaker 3: what's happening nashally, not specifically in Nashville, in your community
Speaker 3: and what those sales might be. So I think it's
Speaker 3: really important as an agent in your community that you're
Speaker 3: speaking to your clients and your followers about what really
Speaker 3: is going on. And there's also some you know, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day. Social media is supposed to
Speaker 3: be fun as well, and I there's some really hysterical
Speaker 3: agents that I follow that you know, have a lot
Speaker 3: of fun with it, you know, but also are great agents.
Speaker 3: But you know, we can't take these markets too seriously
Speaker 3: because the nature of the beast is it's a rollercoaster
Speaker 3: and you know, only the strong will survive.
Speaker 2: Sure do you think it's is it a buyer's or
Speaker 2: a seller's market? Right now?
Speaker 3: It's a flat market?
Speaker 1: Say either?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Is there and I joke?
Speaker 3: But the truth is, you know, we have a little
Speaker 3: bit of a lack of inventory because you know, people
Speaker 3: who bought and were lucky enough to buy in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty or twenty twenty one when interest rates were between
Speaker 3: two and two and a half percent can't afford to
Speaker 3: sell right now because why would you go buy the
Speaker 3: same price house at seven and a half percent when
Speaker 3: you've got an interest rate at two The cost you
Speaker 3: way too much money. So those sellers don't want to
Speaker 3: put their houses on the market, and then those buyers,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you guys remember if
Speaker 3: any of you guys were in the market when interest
Speaker 3: rates were at two and a half, and I was saying,
Speaker 3: buy now and lock in a long term interest rate
Speaker 3: that's going to serve you down the road. And they
Speaker 3: were like, the prices are just crazy and the prices
Speaker 3: are too high. Well, here we are two years later.
Speaker 3: Prices are still high because there is still a lack
Speaker 3: of inventory, except now the interest rate has tripled.
Speaker 2: Correct. I'm one of the ones that settled in at
Speaker 2: like a two point one, I think, and like, we
Speaker 2: will just never leave.
Speaker 3: Girl, We're just so cozy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're good, yeah, but I do know. Hey,
Speaker 2: any have they ever talked about rebranding the show, because
Speaker 2: Miller not a million dollar listing doesn't quite apply to
Speaker 2: our twenty twenty four prices anymore, especially where you are.
Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering, are we going to multimillion? We're
Speaker 2: just going to keep the branding.
Speaker 1: Be married to the brain.
Speaker 3: How many words does it take? Well, yeah, several million dollars.
Speaker 2: Listen, money, you tell us, Tracy, you're the one who's
Speaker 2: a million dollars. Now, it doesn't really come.
Speaker 3: And by the way, like you know, and now I've
Speaker 3: said this to my team, and you'll you'll see a
Speaker 3: little bit of this on the show. You know, gone
Speaker 3: is the day when selling a ten million dollar house
Speaker 3: in six in you know two days is over. So
Speaker 3: instead of instead of like begging and searching and trying
Speaker 3: to find that big big listing and like transition guys
Speaker 3: sell five two and a half million dollar listings because
Speaker 3: those are still turning and make Yes, you're going to
Speaker 3: have to work ten times harder to make the same
Speaker 3: money or you can just sit and do nothing. And
Speaker 3: you know, my position, as obviously a team leader of
Speaker 3: you know we now have a team of close to twenty,
Speaker 3: is to make sure that they understand how to pivot
Speaker 3: in a market like this. I've lived through some downturns.
Speaker 3: I was in the two thousand and eight crisis, so
Speaker 3: I know that if they're not if you're not pivoting
Speaker 3: as an agent right now, at the end of this year,
Speaker 3: you're going to be like waiting tables or figuring out
Speaker 3: how to make ends meet.
Speaker 2: But like you said, we should all wait tables. And
Speaker 2: I served my time at the had all of them
Speaker 2: at Greek Island, and uh, all of like literally every
Speaker 2: single one, I think to learn to dances at Joe's Crabshack.
Speaker 2: You would, I would, I would never apply because they
Speaker 2: would take coordination.
Speaker 3: I worked at j Lo's Salsa Bar, and yes you did.
Speaker 3: I had the salsa outfit and I had to carry
Speaker 3: Martini's and I was like on the dance floor. So
Speaker 3: they were like, we're going to put you at the
Speaker 3: postest stands.
Speaker 2: Somewhere a little more stable. My girl, my girl. Oh
Speaker 2: that's it. Well, Tracy, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 2: on the show. Everyone watching a million Dollar listening Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Heason fifteen, airing now on Bravo. We love you.
Speaker 2: You are so sweet. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks so much.
Speaker 2: All right, bye bye. Oh she's precious. I love women
Speaker 2: like Tracy because it just makes me really motivated. That's
Speaker 2: why I enjoy that part of the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that show.
Speaker 2: Not that this matters, it's just she looks I know.
Speaker 2: I want to know too. I want to know how
Speaker 2: old she was. I don't know why, but I just
Speaker 2: want to know she's forty eight. She looks amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she looks amazing.
Speaker 2: Something in the water out there. They doesn't never it's
Speaker 2: all too good. The pin. Do you guys go to
Speaker 2: your high school graduations? I mean, shoot, reunions. I have
Speaker 2: not I've gone to one, You've gone to one? Which one?
Speaker 2: Like the ten? Gosh, fifteen, twenty? Are we in twenty?
Speaker 2: What are we? Yeah? At twenty? Yeah, I guess it
Speaker 2: would have been.
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of them. I'm twenty nicks. But
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: So, like, you know, like when you're in high school.
Speaker 2: I used to get really excited thought of having, yeah,
Speaker 2: a reunion. I thought it'd be like so fun, you know,
Speaker 2: and so we have this reunion page on Facebook or
Speaker 2: like the our high school year. There was like ten
Speaker 2: people that went to the last one, and like that
Speaker 2: broke my heart because I'm like, I just imagine, like
Speaker 2: you want to. No, I didn't go. I don't care
Speaker 2: if I okays a point, all right, well I don't go.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, I think I think it
Speaker 2: would actually be fun to go and see people that
Speaker 2: I haven't seen in years.
Speaker 1: I'm I do too.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel that. I feel fine,
Speaker 2: I'm good. Not just catching up on Facebook feels good.
Speaker 2: Say yeah. What I had learned is that the girl
Speaker 2: with two first names was equally as shady ten years
Speaker 2: later as she was in high school. And I had
Speaker 2: hoped for better. So I just feel like I'm find her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I actually really enjoyed high school. I was
Speaker 2: this will be shocking, the one that cried all the
Speaker 2: way down the aisle because I didn't want it to
Speaker 2: be over. It was like my career. I just loved
Speaker 2: it there. It was special and I may Evil and
Speaker 2: my coaches and I just loved it.
Speaker 1: Oh that was definitely not me.
Speaker 2: Definitely not made. I barely made my graduation.
Speaker 3: I hated graduations tracked.
Speaker 2: Well, my mom, this is this will very track. But
Speaker 2: I didn't I tell you guys the story of my graduation.
Speaker 2: I was like the ceremony and everything. I was used
Speaker 2: to be the figure skater for the Red Wings games,
Speaker 2: and it was when they were going to go for
Speaker 2: the I think it was the two peet in two
Speaker 2: thousand and two, and I was the skater before the rounds,
Speaker 2: so like I'd come out like the round girl, and
Speaker 2: I got to like they didn't give me a ticket,
Speaker 2: but I got to stand right by the zamboni every show,
Speaker 2: and it was amazing. The zamboni needs its own moment,
Speaker 2: it does, and so I stood there watched all the games,
Speaker 2: and then I found out graduation was going to be
Speaker 2: the same night as the like Round two or something,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Mom, I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I can't miss it. She's like, I know, you can't
Speaker 2: miss the game. So I was like, what do we do?
Speaker 2: So she had her like cop friend, get me to
Speaker 2: go talk to go skate the the round, go to graduation,
Speaker 2: walk the stage, peace out, go back to the game.
Speaker 2: It's just a still on brand for who you are today.
Speaker 2: It's just literally, yeah, it's just a little flashback.
Speaker 1: Call her name. She walked right out on the police escort.
Speaker 2: I mean there's some really, there's a lot, but you
Speaker 2: are there's a lot. There's You're the person that will
Speaker 2: always make a way. I had to. It was the
Speaker 2: freaking finals. Meanwhile, and everyone the round girl giving them
Speaker 2: a disc a CD of I hope you dan't tearful
Speaker 2: tucking in my high school career. High school career, what
Speaker 2: a time wait to leave. But there are people, but
Speaker 2: there are people that I would love to see again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and just I talked to some of them on Facebook.
Speaker 2: I don't go on Facebook a lot, but there are
Speaker 2: some like like Aaron Wadell. She was always like the
Speaker 2: sweetest human and like you know, I'd like to be like,
Speaker 2: how are you, how's your family? Like, you know, actually
Speaker 2: in person, have like good conversations. Yeah, I would do
Speaker 2: an in person I do. I actually really super loved
Speaker 2: our people. We just had really great people. I think
Speaker 2: we did too, But I kind of keep up with
Speaker 2: them now, which is fun. That's the fun part about
Speaker 2: like Facebook and Instagram just special s. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's been so much too much time past for
Speaker 2: me to like slide into some people's you know, and
Speaker 2: then I don't know. I was always just crying anyways
Speaker 2: over my high school boyfriend, which also started back backlash forward. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was talking everyone. You were crying O ride school boyfriend,
Speaker 2: just all the same. I know. Kat was like, and
Speaker 2: this business plan is done and we're moving forward to
Speaker 2: the Manchester.
Speaker 1: That really talked to many people.
Speaker 2: And that's a close on this calendar year. That was
Speaker 2: that's fantastic. Kat's like, this is the natural next step
Speaker 2: in college. Yeah, that's what I was doing. That's Hilaire's
Speaker 2: throwing out her planner, maybe keeping it just in case,
Speaker 2: just in just in case. All right, ladies, that was fun,
Speaker 2: See you next week.
Speaker 1: Bye bye,