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Speaker 2: Car all right, I wanted to avoid tutsies or whatever

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Speaker 2: we're talking about here, but at some point we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to get to the drama that is the NFL

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Speaker 2: Players Association former executive director now former executive director.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, You've got that to look forward to, plus

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Speaker 3: so much more.

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Speaker 2: As we are in for Doug Gottliet today, Carrie hanging out.

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Speaker 2: Isaac lohan Kron, who has the news, is at the

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Speaker 2: news desk. Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer, and Iowa

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Speaker 2: Sam is here as our technical producer. As we wrap

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Speaker 2: up the week, we'll get to all that drama golf

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Speaker 2: wrapping up in Scottie Shuffler doing Scottie Scheffler things. In

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Speaker 2: baseball second half, while it's not split evenly in halves,

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Speaker 2: the second half is underway. The Red Sox and Cubs

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Speaker 2: playing day baseball but everybody back in action tonight in

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. After the All Star break, we start

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. Yes, yes, your would you say? And

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Speaker 2: I I just am doing this because I know that

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Speaker 2: there's new listeners. Maybe they don't hear you and I

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Speaker 2: on Sundays during football season or you and Monty and

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoons here on Fox Sports Radio, so they may

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Speaker 2: not may not hear hear you. But is is your

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Speaker 2: passion NBA even though you were a former NFL player?

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Speaker 4: Is that is that fair to say? Very accurate, Dan,

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Speaker 4: very accurate. I Yes, My real attention, my real love

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Speaker 4: adoration goals to the NBA, which is I know a

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Speaker 5: Did you wish you were an NBA player? Are you

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Speaker 5: glad that I still wish?

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Speaker 3: Now? You still? After oh p accolades? An eight year

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Speaker 3: career in the NFL. Do you know the story? I

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Speaker 3: think I told you the story.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but after my third year with the Jets,

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Speaker 4: I was seriously considering switching to basketball.

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Speaker 3: I did not you did not know that, So yes

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Speaker 4: I was secretly working on some some some workouts and

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Speaker 4: doing that stuff. And my agent was like, Harry what

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Speaker 4: are you doing? Uh, that's trying to pay you. Are

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Speaker 4: you gonna are you gonna be that guy?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, you're right, You're right, You're right Todd.

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Speaker 4: So yes, I think I chose correctly. Always trust Todd.

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Speaker 4: That is that is the moral of the story. But

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Speaker 4: you stop playing football and basketball is is your love.

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Speaker 4: And we start in the NBA because Damian Lillard loves Portland.

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Speaker 4: Damian Lillard is back in Portland as a Trailblazer, shigning

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Speaker 4: the three year deal. Even though he's gonna miss all

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Speaker 4: safe to say, the final stretch. He goes back home

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Speaker 4: and can be with his kids. And that's a big,

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Speaker 4: like a hot take. We always talk about a hot take.

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Speaker 2: My initial reaction was good for Dane, don't go and

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Speaker 2: which is why I think that the split ended up happening.

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Speaker 2: But it just to me it was a feel good

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen this so many times where guys

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Speaker 4: that ring and it just looks funky, right. We saw

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Speaker 4: Karl Malone play with the Lakers like that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Phoenix was legit, but Houston on the tail Land, you know,

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Speaker 4: like it just doesn't look right. We never really associate

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful. There's a different place that I want to

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Speaker 2: the thing with Dame as well. You went back to

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Speaker 2: and you said to him, and you said to any player, Carrie,

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Speaker 2: there's different levels. New York City is obviously different than Portland,

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Speaker 2: But if you were to tell a player that you

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Speaker 2: And it's not to disrespect any of the former Trailblazers

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Speaker 2: because they're still a part of that. Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 2: portion of it. I think it's easy to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to be an NBA champion when you look

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Speaker 2: back at Dame's legacy of him being the star in Portland,

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Speaker 2: it's probably going to carry more weight and be way

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Speaker 2: more important than it would to ever win an NBA championship.

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Speaker 2: Say elsewhere, gotcha?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I was about to say that that part they elsewhere? Right?

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Speaker 4: If he wins it there, it doesn't stop. It's really

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Speaker 4: it's really his town, right, It's endless. But I agree

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Speaker 4: So the fact that he's at the career that a

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Speaker 4: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be different if you went to you know,

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Speaker 2: Now Golden said a little different because it was you

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Speaker 2: know where he's from. But if you just went to

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Speaker 2: like that and you win, it's yeah, it's neat, but

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Speaker 2: it's not like what it was. Obviously, if you would

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Speaker 2: have won a championship, Portland would have also owned the

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Speaker 2: This all leads to Lebron James. It does no carry.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious and I know. Please don't turn off the radio,

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Speaker 2: Please don't turn off the radio because I brought Lebron's

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Speaker 2: name up. I am telling you this, don't get out

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Speaker 2: of the app. Don't search all the other iHeart stations.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason I bring this up is because, as

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Speaker 2: I said, my initial reaction was good for Damon. I

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Speaker 2: haven't moved off at any of that in the last

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours. I feel that Lebron's only play now

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Speaker 2: only certain teams that he could go to. Mavericks. Your

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Speaker 2: Mavericks were one of those teams that were talked about.

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Speaker 2: The contacting, Yeah, the contacting of Rich Paul, which again

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Speaker 2: I said, is clear tampering in the NBA. You got

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Speaker 2: to talk to the teams. You don't talk to the

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Speaker 2: But the Mavericks were one of those teams. Doesn't doesn't

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Speaker 2: Crosstown Clippers, does nothing. To go back to Cleveland was

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Speaker 2: the story book story. But now Damian Lillard has beat

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Speaker 2: it adds more to the greed aspect of how Lebron

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Speaker 2: How does Lebron do it in Dallas?

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Speaker 3: How is this?

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Speaker 2: How's this gonna work out? Even if you would go

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Speaker 2: I think Dame going back to Portland his force. Lebron,

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Speaker 2: if you want to have this storybook ending, if you

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Speaker 4: I agree. I mean that's my sentiment as well. I

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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought Cleveland would be the storybook one

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Speaker 4: want to see what that looks like. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 4: if that was his last season as well, just the drama,

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Speaker 4: the storybook type of ending. It could be because Cleveland's

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Speaker 4: a good team, they could have made it out of

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Speaker 4: Lebron for me, just needs to stay in La play

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Speaker 4: it out. If that's not the option in Cleveland, stay

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Speaker 4: you can will your team to a win, which I

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Speaker 4: don't know if that's really happened in his career.

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Speaker 2: Yet.

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Speaker 5: You don't think going back to Cleveland was fighting through No,

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Speaker 5: you don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: The first one.

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Speaker 4: I think that was something that he wanted to do

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Speaker 4: legacy wise, it's this legacy thing. I don't think it

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Speaker 4: mean when he first got there, with Kyrie and all

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Speaker 2: got Isaac. Is it Tutsi's cabaret that has now entered

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Speaker 3: Is it Tutsi's cabaret? Is that what we're talking about?

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Speaker 6: I mean apparently, like the steaks are incredible, But all

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Speaker 3: This is it. This is very magic city.

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Speaker 2: So? I I guess it could be good. I just

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Mark, Welcome in Happy Friday. As you heard

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Speaker 7: maybe not as a regular season quarterback. Certainly, it's easy

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Speaker 7: to put Joe Burrow right there, Lamar Jackson's right there,

436
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Speaker 7: Josh Allen. Those are the easy ones, I think when

437
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Speaker 7: you start to think about it, and I think the

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Speaker 7: one that I would say that it's very risky for

439
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Speaker 7: me to put it in there. That's the top ten

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Speaker 7: quarterback right now. Not risky, but just you know, speaks

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Speaker 7: volumes of what a rookie can do. Jayden Daniels look

442
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Speaker 7: like one and played like one, and he is one.

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Speaker 7: And that's an amazing, amazing accomplishment for a young man

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Speaker 7: in his one year in the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: Mark, I'm so glad you brought up Jayden Daniels. That's

446
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Speaker 4: my one as well. I mean, I know we're quick

447
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Speaker 4: now in this era to promote people as the best

448
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Speaker 4: at something or one of the best at something after

449
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Speaker 4: one year, because of the society we live in now,

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Speaker 4: But I think that five is a little premature. I

451
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Speaker 4: would have thought that c J. Stroule would still be

452
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Speaker 4: in that top ten somewhere, and he wasn't. I think

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Speaker 4: even before Jaydon Daniels right now, what do you think

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Speaker 4: about that?

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Speaker 3: Love?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I've met him both. I love CJS Drave

457
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Speaker 7: the kid and what he stands for and where he

458
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Speaker 7: comes from, Jade, and I don't know quite as good

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Speaker 7: as I certainly know him. I would sit there and

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Speaker 7: say that, having had an opportunity to speak to people

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Speaker 7: within the Redskins, Redskins commander's organization.

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Speaker 3: That happens.

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Speaker 7: You know what he did from the minute he got

464
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Speaker 7: drafted all the way through the season, five o'clock, five

465
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Speaker 7: point thirty, show up, stays late. He just has grind.

466
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Speaker 7: And Jaden has done everything you're so you would ask

467
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Speaker 7: your quarterback to do and more and and and so

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Speaker 7: I just I've fallen in love with that mindset that

469
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Speaker 7: he has, that he just wants to be great. It's

470
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Speaker 7: the Kobe Bryant mentality, or it's the Michael Jordan tal

471
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Speaker 7: like I'm just gonna outwork you and no matter what,

472
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be on the court and I'm just gonna work.

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Speaker 7: And that's what Jayden does. And so I put him

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Speaker 7: in front of CJ just because I actually think from

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Speaker 7: the athletic standpoint, he's even more talented.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 7: It goes back to Nick Saban, right, Yeah, when you

478
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Speaker 7: talk about him his last year at Alabama and he

479
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Speaker 7: talked about two guys, Brock Bauers and Jayde Daniels, He's

480
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Speaker 7: that I had no answer for either one of those players.

481
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Speaker 7: That is a crazy statement if you're Nick Stave and

482
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Speaker 7: thinking about all the players he's coached against where he

483
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Speaker 7: had no way to control those two guys and obviously

484
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Speaker 7: come in the league and dominate.

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Speaker 2: Mark Dominic joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Speaker 2: Carrie Roads, the Allpro. I'm Dan Byer sitting in for Doug.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: One of the stories that we've got over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of days moving away from established players are rookies

490
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Speaker 2: and now guaranteed money going to fully guaranteed contracts going

491
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Speaker 2: to second round picks. Putting your old GM hat on again,

492
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Speaker 2: it was this just now, It's finally here. Was Are

493
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Speaker 2: you surprised that it has arrived? How do you look

494
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Speaker 2: at this and how does this make the job of

495
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Speaker 2: a GM easier or difficult now that we're guaranteeing, fully

496
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Speaker 2: guaranteeing these second round deals.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you notice, as it's going right, we're starting

498
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Speaker 7: to see more and more guys obviously get their deals in.

499
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Speaker 7: You know, we're right at the verge of everybody showing up.

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Speaker 7: So the agents are like, I've tried to hold out

501
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Speaker 7: as long as I can, and you know, we're seeing

502
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Speaker 7: just a few of the first guys in the second

503
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Speaker 7: round are getting fully guaranteed. As you're getting deeper in

504
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Speaker 7: the second round. You're seeing, you know, somewhere between ninety

505
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Speaker 7: five ninety one eighty five percent fully guaranteed. That's great,

506
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Speaker 7: And you know, part of me is like second rounders,

507
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Speaker 7: for the most part, usually get four years to take

508
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Speaker 7: a shot, like if they're not good enough, but they're

509
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Speaker 7: going to get that four years. It's those fourth rounders

510
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Speaker 7: carry roads that never get guaranteed, you know. But you know,

511
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Speaker 7: it's something that you've seen, and I think it's something

512
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Speaker 7: you're going to continue to see as we move forward.

513
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Speaker 7: Maybe in the new CBA will try to set some

514
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Speaker 7: type of boundary with it. I don't think it'll work.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's only a matter of you know, five

516
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Speaker 7: or ten years from now, all second rounders be fully guaranteed,

517
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Speaker 7: and they'll be working on trying to get some too,

518
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Speaker 7: the third rounders to get more guaranteed money. It's what

519
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Speaker 7: agents need to do or try to do, because that's

520
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Speaker 7: really the only thing you can really fight for in

521
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Speaker 7: negotiations is how much money can you get guaranteed? So

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Speaker 7: not a big deal. I wouldn't lose a lot of

523
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Speaker 7: sleepover it. It's just, you know, you don't want to

524
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Speaker 7: be the team that sets the president of the Cleveland Browns did,

525
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Speaker 7: but they probably won't with their next second round pick.

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Speaker 7: Who's you know, obviously deal with a lot of other stuff,

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Speaker 7: you know, So.

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Speaker 2: It was was it the Texans with the Higgins signing?

529
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Speaker 2: Was he the first to give you?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: So like, is there because now we're talking about collusion,

532
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Speaker 2: We're talking about all this other stuff with Deshaun Watson.

533
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Speaker 2: But I would think everybody was mad. Everybody was mad

534
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Speaker 2: at Jimmy Haslum for giving Deshaun Watson that fully guaranteed

535
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Speaker 2: deal so much so that this collusion thing apparently did happen.

536
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Speaker 3: Is is something like this.

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Speaker 2: Just minor mark that like you wouldn't like owners wouldn't

538
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Speaker 2: get together, but be like we're no longer giving second

539
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Speaker 2: round picks or is it you know, horses out of

540
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Speaker 2: the bar and you can't do anything about it? Like

541
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Speaker 2: is there any comparison to what the Browns did with

542
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson to maybe what the Texans did the Higgins

543
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Speaker 2: to set this precedent?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Dan, I think at the horse out

545
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Speaker 7: of the barn, and I think that all you can

546
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Speaker 7: do is the club is try to read the horse

547
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Speaker 7: back in a little bit, and that's what every club's

548
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Speaker 7: tried to do, and everybody's tried to toe the line.

549
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Speaker 7: But you know, now is the time where the rubber

550
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Speaker 7: meets the road, and these second rounders want to go

551
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Speaker 7: play and they got to start the clock and so

552
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Speaker 7: the their leverage runs out and clubs know that they

553
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Speaker 7: know that in the end the player is going to

554
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Speaker 7: come in. You're not trying to create animosity, You're trying

555
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Speaker 7: to be right by the player. Uh you know. I

556
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Speaker 7: think in the end, that's why you're seeing all these

557
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Speaker 7: second rounders come together and sign and they're not getting

558
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Speaker 7: the fully guaranteed money, but they have started to dig

559
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Speaker 7: in there. And again it's it's not to be unexpected.

560
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Speaker 7: These are good numbers, these are good contracts, but uh,

561
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Speaker 7: it's just you don't want to be the team that

562
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Speaker 7: sets the precedent. But you're not if you have to

563
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Speaker 7: start the follow foot as we see a couple others do. Uh,

564
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Speaker 7: you survive and just keep moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Mark, I got one more for you. I know that

566
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Speaker 4: you you know, you have your your foot in most

567
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Speaker 4: doors and most rooms, and you have their little inside

568
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Speaker 4: infle I want to know if you have anything on

569
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Speaker 4: so ToJ Watt just got paid. Parsons just got paid. Garrett,

570
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Speaker 4: he hasn't he's about so Yeah, Trey Hendrickson, what's going

571
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Speaker 4: on with that deal in Cincinnati? I mean they cannot

572
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Speaker 4: afford to let him.

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Speaker 7: Go, right, I mean the problem to your point, I mean,

574
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Speaker 7: it's it's a shame. You know, the Bengals have certainly,

575
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Speaker 7: you know, dropped half a billion dollars on Burrow and

576
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 7: the receivers, which is great, but they left you know,

577
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Speaker 7: the man that's really kind of run that whole defense behind.

578
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Speaker 7: And and the number for the problem for the Bengals,

579
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Speaker 7: this all went back all the way prior to the combine,

580
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Speaker 7: is that the Bengals are throwing around bad numbers in

581
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Speaker 7: terms of where the offer should be versus what the

582
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Speaker 7: market was, and what is the market done. It's only

583
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Speaker 7: gone up, so it's made it even harder. So every

584
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Speaker 7: time it's kind of reminds me of the Kirk Cousins,

585
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Speaker 7: Like every time the teams kind of comes around and goes, okay,

586
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Speaker 7: we'll give it to you, he's like, well, the market

587
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Speaker 7: just went up two more million dollars a year, so

588
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Speaker 7: that's not the market anymore. Like that's your fault for

589
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 7: waiting and so that's what keeps happening here. I think

590
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 7: for Trey Henderson and his agent, they're like, look what

591
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Speaker 7: WA just got? Like, you guys are sitting around in

592
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Speaker 7: the twenties or whatever it's going to be, you know,

593
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Speaker 7: and it's nowhere near what the numbers should be. So

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Speaker 7: I think it gets done. I think it's it's too

595
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Speaker 7: important for the Bengals. I think they have too much

596
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Speaker 7: right in on the season. They realize that they have

597
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Speaker 7: a clock that is ticking. They have a team that's

598
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Speaker 7: good enough to I think, compete for the AFC and

599
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Speaker 7: to compete for Super Bowl. I can't imagine letting not

600
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Speaker 7: only Trey Hendrickson not get in there, but letting their

601
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Speaker 7: first round pick also not be on the board. So

602
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Speaker 7: I think the Bengals have a lot to do, but

603
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Speaker 7: you've got to get it done with Trey Hendrickson. And

604
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Speaker 7: I think the TJ. Watt If I'm the agent for Trey,

605
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 7: I'm pointed to that all day. Look, look, they can

606
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 7: get it worked out. Why can't we get it worked out.

607
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 7: Let's go, let's get this done. And I think the

608
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 7: Bengals will do that. But the Bengals are notorious. Is

609
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Speaker 7: one of the hardest clubs to negotiate with the National

610
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Speaker 7: Football League.

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Speaker 3: Well, Stewart's the only first round pick still on the side.

612
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: How does that settle out?

613
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Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I mean again, the Bengals can play

614
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 7: hardball here and you sit there and say, hey, look,

615
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 7: if you do something really bad, we have a right

616
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Speaker 7: to you know, you know, you know, remove your future

617
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Speaker 7: guaranteed money. So even though it's a four year, fully

618
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Speaker 7: guarded contract with a fifth year option, if something happened

619
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Speaker 7: and they're like, look, you know you've gotten an accident,

620
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 7: whatever happened off the field, and they're like, we're going

621
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Speaker 7: to take away you're guarante were going to cut you.

622
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Speaker 7: That's what they're trying to do at Bengal Land. If

623
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Speaker 7: you're going to do that for the first time ever,

624
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 7: you should have told the player on the clock or

625
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 7: when the agent was calling and saying, hey, look, we're

626
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 7: going to be willing to draft you here, but we're

627
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Speaker 7: going to ask for this kind of language. If you

628
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 7: don't want that kind of language, tell us not to

629
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Speaker 7: draft you. That's the only way you can really do that.

630
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Speaker 7: Because I think the Bengals are really coming in a

631
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 7: bad faith actors here. So I think the Bengals will cave,

632
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 7: but you're going to try to set their press in

633
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Speaker 7: for next year.

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00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna let you go out. But I

635
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: have one last question. When does a GM take vacation?

636
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: Like it's got to be like somewhere on the calendar,

637
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: Like you got to be like, all right, I'm out

638
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: of the office for a week.

639
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: When does that happen?

640
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 7: In the NFL, it's usually right right before July fourth

641
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 7: or the week after July fourth. It's like a one

642
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 7: to two week windows that that's what you got, and

643
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 7: and and sadly it's a tough time. But yeah, it's hard.

644
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 7: It's hard. You know, there is no vacation because there's

645
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 7: you guys have seen there's so much stuff going on

646
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 7: before we can get the camps, so many moving parts

647
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 7: and things you're worried about off the field that we've

648
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 7: had to see what the Cleveland Browns are dealing with.

649
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Speaker 7: So you're even on vacation of that phone never's office.

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Speaker 2: I understand that, Mark, We appreciate it. Tomorrow all seasons here.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. Thanks again.

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Speaker 7: Sounds great, guys.

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Speaker 2: Mark Dominic, former NFL GM joining us every week here

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Speaker 2: on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's

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Speaker 2: go over to Isaac Low and Cron at the news desk.

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Speaker 2: He's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three

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Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gotleep Show at

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Speaker 1: Foxsports Treaty dot com, or stream us live every day

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

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Speaker 2: He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer and for Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks to Mark Dominic for

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Speaker 2: joining us giving us the ins and outs of what's

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Speaker 2: happening in the NFL from a front office perspective.

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Speaker 3: The Cats, as.

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Speaker 2: Kramer would say, is out of the bag when it

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Speaker 2: comes to second round picks and they're guaranteed money. Thought

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Speaker 2: it was interesting that he says now it's just a

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Speaker 2: matter of time until third round picks get fully guaranteed contract.

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Speaker 3: I'm oh man, get to the fourth, get to the fourth.

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Speaker 3: He'p going and going and going.

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Speaker 2: I'll also add this in the point that I brought

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Speaker 2: up about the Jimmy Haslm in the Browns giving Deshaun

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Speaker 2: Watson the fully guaranteed contract and the collusion report. I

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Speaker 2: think the timing of that is very interesting that now

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Speaker 2: is the time and like the same week or two

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Speaker 2: that this is kind of all revealed. Now second round

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Speaker 2: picks are starting to get fully guaranteed contracts, because if

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Speaker 2: there was any pushback from it, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: story does any favors for NFL owners right now. It's

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Speaker 2: not every second round pick at this point is some

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Speaker 2: are getting about ninety percent, but as next year, there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a few more that get it and

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Speaker 2: a few more after that. But I don't think that

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Speaker 2: NFL owners have any leg to stand on considering the

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Speaker 2: reports that we now heard were public.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they never.

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Speaker 4: Really do, but the fact that they're able to work

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Speaker 4: in unison, we won't say collusion work in unison. On

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Speaker 4: most of these things. They do talk, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the clubs exist for a reason and they talk about things.

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Speaker 2: But talking about the strip clubs, are you talking about

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Speaker 2: the ownership club?

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Speaker 4: Talking about the ownership not at the the ownership club.

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Speaker 4: So they do talk, and you know, these things are

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Speaker 4: have been going on forever. But now, like you said,

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Speaker 4: the cats out the bag and player empowerment is a

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Speaker 4: real thing. So it's it's here. I think I know

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Speaker 4: the answer to this. But who's had a worst week?

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Speaker 4: Lloyd Howell or cheating guy at Coldplay concert? Like like

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Speaker 4: this is like this has been like because cheating guy

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Speaker 4: it like boom, there it is, but Lloyd holl it

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Speaker 4: just keeps on getting worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's cheating guy would win by

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Speaker 3: a lance. Oh of course, it's more. It's more mainstream.

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Speaker 4: It's mainstream, and it and the memes don't stop like

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Speaker 4: it's been continuous.

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Speaker 5: Yes, on and on and on. Let's play a game

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Speaker 5: with Isaac long Cron.

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Speaker 6: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: Hello Isaac, Hello.

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Speaker 6: My favorite meme was Eric Methene's post Coldplay hasn't made

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Speaker 6: a sin in years? Last night they made two. Eric

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Speaker 6: clever With that in mind, onto the business that today's

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Speaker 6: game is, I got DIBs. All right, We'll start with

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Speaker 6: this top NFL Players Association hangouts. Now I'm just kidding

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Speaker 6: about that one. All right, Let's move on to more

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Speaker 6: PG rated material Best Pro Sports All Star Games? What

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Speaker 6: do you guys got DIBs on best Pro Sports All

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Speaker 6: Star Games?

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Speaker 3: Who's first? I go for that?

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Speaker 6: You just jump in?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, jump in? Yes, definitely, Definitely. The MLB All Star

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Speaker 4: Game is I think my favorite. I'll go Gosh, I can't.

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Speaker 6: Even shocked that he didn't say the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 5: I'll just take the NBA. I'll go hockey. I'm taking hockey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm surprised that hockey wasn't higher on the list.

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Speaker 6: With the four nations.

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Speaker 5: Faces, I'm gonna abstain from this. Actually I have no selection.

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Speaker 3: No votes, no votes. Well, then you can't complain, all right.

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Speaker 6: That's true, and complaining. Complaining is what we all do.

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Speaker 5: Have I've been complaining about All Star Games.

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Speaker 3: No, that's the thing, like if you if you don't vote.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yes, that's right, all right, next topic.

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Speaker 3: That's the only reason I vote. No, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 6: World Series contenders. Who you guys got DIBs on?

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Speaker 2: Listen, I've left the door open for Burst twice because

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Speaker 2: of Baseball. Like I thought, Baseball maybe doesn't believe in

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers at this point.

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Speaker 3: I got the Brewers. How about that? The trade deadline. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 3: I will take.

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Speaker 6: The Dodger, alright, twist your arm on that one.

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Speaker 5: I got DIBs on the Phillies, Sam.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's no surprise here. I got dipped on the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: They're hot right now, They're there.

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Speaker 5: All right, Isaac, you can also take DIBs on stuff too.

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Speaker 6: I was actually, believe it or not, since the Dodger

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Speaker 6: for a second, I'm gonna go with the Toronto Blue

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Speaker 6: Jays riding under the raid art despite being in first place.

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Speaker 6: All right, So we'll turn a topical news as maybe

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Speaker 6: a high brow as we can in light of this

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Speaker 6: Lloyd hol Junior story allegedly.

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Speaker 3: What is Lloyd thing?

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Speaker 6: I was just thinking about that. You know, he might

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Speaker 6: want to just just just call him Lloyd hal for

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Speaker 6: today anyway. Uh. Top things to spend excessive amounts of

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Speaker 6: money on? What do you got DIBs on? Feel free

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Speaker 6: to take this in addy direction you all want.

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Speaker 5: I got DIBs on pre made sandwiches. Go to Ralphs

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Speaker 5: Pavilions and it's always my go to my cook I'm

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Speaker 5: a pre made sandwich and I'll pay nine to ninety nine.

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Speaker 6: That's fair enough. So it's not like you mean pre

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Speaker 6: made sandwiches from the airport, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, like the ones that are in the little cooler.

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Speaker 6: Difference in the supermarket and the air.

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Speaker 5: Those are like eighteen dollars. Now, I gotta go to

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Speaker 5: Rob Parker and just.

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Speaker 2: Make my I am like this close to buying a

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Speaker 2: new set of golf clubs, and and there is there's

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Speaker 2: something new about like getting a new set. Being excited.

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Speaker 2: You basically play the same as you did previously. Usually

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter, but I'm just going to go on this

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Speaker 2: level golf clubs.

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Speaker 4: Well for me, My my guilty my third home in Italy. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: My guilty obsession with an excessive amount of spending is Legos.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Lego guy.

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Speaker 6: Wow, I wouldn't have guessed.

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Speaker 1: Way.

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Speaker 6: So I take you've been to Lego Land and cals Back.

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Speaker 3: I have Wow.

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Speaker 6: Fair play to you.

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Speaker 5: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: You learned something new every day.

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Speaker 2: Something I told my Carmen the other day that I

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Speaker 2: was blown away. I thought it was a really cool idea,

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Speaker 2: the Lego flowers. But they're pretty more common than I

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Speaker 2: than I thought. Like it was really new to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, that's unique. I may want to

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Speaker 2: try to get it to some one and they didn't

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Speaker 2: like it though, so I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I wouldn't suggest it to you. But I

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: kept it in my face, So it's good. Was it

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Speaker 4: used as a peace offering?

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Speaker 3: Get it? Sorry?

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Speaker 6: My reaction was on a seven second delay?

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Speaker 7: There?

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Speaker 6: Very good?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 6: Final item on this very uh entertaining and eclectic edition

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Speaker 6: of I got DIBs with Lee Corso's retirement this year

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Speaker 6: all time college football broadcasters. Who you got DIBs on?

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Speaker 3: Oh? All time college broadcaster? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I was gonna say I thought I'd teached Saban

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Speaker 2: of but I told Isaac, I want the Saban question. Yes,

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Speaker 2: can we get the same question?

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Speaker 3: We have time to.

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Speaker 5: Do over Okay.

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Speaker 6: Places we would want to see Nick Saban coach.

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Speaker 5: I got DIBs on USC bring that discipline to the

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00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 5: West Coast, make us see great again. Sorry, Lincoln Riley,

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00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: it's not happening.

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Speaker 2: I got DIBs on the Dolphins because I don't think

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00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: you did the Dolphins wrong. I think everybody who was

816
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: mad at him for lying saying that he's not going

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00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: to Alabama just doesn't understand how the game is played.

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00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been unfairly treated because of that.

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Speaker 3: I played against the old Dolphins. They were bad.

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Speaker 4: I would say, I would say, Nebraska go to the

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Speaker 4: the Cornhuskers a cool team.

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Speaker 5: You're already out on that rule hunh yeah, oh jeez,

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Speaker 5: Cowboys give us a circus wow, and I would.

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Speaker 6: Say you're all wrong. Pop Warner Football to see how

825
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: we would coach a bunch of seven and eight year

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Speaker 6: olds and also deal with their parents. And that can

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Speaker 6: close this edition of I Got DIBs Game.

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Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy as hell.

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Speaker 2: He's Isaac Lower and Crowd, Ryan Berschinger and Iowa Sam

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Speaker 2: hanging out with Carrie Rhodes and myself here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio in for Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, Bad Times in Philly