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Speaker 2: I'm Joe Matthew alongside Kaylee Lines on a special edition

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Speaker 2: of Balance of Power.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Election Day, Kaylie, we made it.

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Speaker 2: After many twists and terms in this campaign, there's no

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Speaker 2: more campaigning, only time to vote.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, as we have just seen Donald Trump do. Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris of course is also and did her campaign. She

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Speaker 4: will be in DC while Donald Trump is in Florida

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Speaker 4: this evening as we all wait for the tally to

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Speaker 4: come in. At this point, it is no longer about

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Speaker 4: trying to convince American voters who to vote for. It's

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Speaker 4: just showing up to vote at all, if they decide

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Speaker 4: to do so today. Keeping in mind that to calculate

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Speaker 4: to tabulate all of these votes to get that final

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Speaker 4: tally could take some time. Knowing that more than eighty

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Speaker 4: million Americans voted early before this election.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely right, a staggering number here, coming off of

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Speaker 2: what we saw during the pandemic, these are numbers that

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Speaker 2: many people never saw coming. Polls could not be tighter.

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Speaker 2: This is an election that we have been set up

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Speaker 2: here with a true tie. It's essentially fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: at the top of the ticket, and that goes for

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Speaker 2: a lot of races down ballot as well. Even the

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Speaker 2: voters of Dixville Notch couldn't figure it out, Kayley, six

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Speaker 2: of them. They tied three to three after going on

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Speaker 2: in for Joe Biden in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and keeping in mind that at one point in

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Speaker 4: this race, it was Joe Biden that was going to

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Speaker 4: be the Democratic nominee for president. But clearly a lot

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Speaker 4: has changed. This twenty twenty four election cycle has been

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Speaker 4: unlike any other. And here's a reminder of what we've

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Speaker 4: all been through.

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Speaker 5: Well, the democracy is still America's sacred cause.

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Speaker 6: Is the most urgent question of our time, and it's

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Speaker 6: what the twenty four election is all about.

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Speaker 5: They call it for Tuesday for a reason.

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Speaker 6: This is a big one and we have no choice

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Speaker 6: because November fifth right around the corner.

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Speaker 7: If we finally beat medicare.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, President Biden, President Trump, who He's right.

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Speaker 5: He did beat medicaid, beat it to death.

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Speaker 6: If I had not moved my head at that very

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Speaker 6: last instant, the assassin's bullet would have perfectly hit its mark,

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Speaker 6: and I would not be here tonight.

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Speaker 7: You know, there is a time and a place for

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Speaker 7: long years of experience in public life.

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Speaker 6: There's also a time and a place for new voices.

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Speaker 8: You can always trust me to put country above party

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Speaker 8: and self.

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Speaker 6: We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before.

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.

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Speaker 6: America would be bigger, better, boulder, richer, safer, and stronger

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Speaker 6: than before.

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Speaker 8: We are optimistic and excited about what we can do together.

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Speaker 2: To think we've gone through all of this together, bringing

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Speaker 2: us now to this moment. On election Day, we start

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Speaker 2: our coverage on the ground with Bloomberg's David Gora, who

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Speaker 2: is in Philadelphia right now. Of course, the big prize

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Speaker 2: tonight Pennsylvania, and David, we may not know by tomorrow

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Speaker 2: who won it, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, Joe. And so you know, the weather here is beautiful.

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Speaker 10: I want to say that first of all, and I

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Speaker 10: think that's a positive sign for those who are going

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Speaker 3: Their ballots today.

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Speaker 10: This is a state that really put a lot of

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Speaker 10: emphasis on voting early, and the way that's done here

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Speaker 10: is through mail in ballots.

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Speaker 3: People requested them, they were sent them, they.

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Speaker 10: Could return them through the postal service or go to

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Speaker 10: to the polls today and the lines are long across

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Speaker 10: state from both parties, Democrats and Republicans, and they say

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Speaker 3: But everyone is acknowledging the fact that this is.

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Speaker 10: As you put it, a thin race at the top

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Speaker 3: Looking at the Senate race.

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Speaker 10: In this state, we've seen that narrowing as well over

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Speaker 10: the importance of Pennsylvania, those nineteen electoral College votes, and

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Speaker 10: looking at history acknowledging the fact that most routes.

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Speaker 3: To the presidency do come through this state.

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Speaker 10: And as I was in front of the Philadelphia Art

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Speaker 10: on behalf of Vice President Harris acknowledging the fact that

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Speaker 10: this state is important to that campaign. Of course, you'd

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Speaker 10: hear the same thing from the former president Donald Trump's

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Speaker 10: campaign as well.

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Speaker 3: They both know that this state is crucial.

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Speaker 4: Well, certainly with its nineteen electoral votes. But David, you

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Speaker 4: mentioned the down ballot race is there we are watching

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Speaker 4: as well, including the incumbent Senator Bob Casey facing a

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Speaker 4: sense that someone can win that Senate race if they're

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Speaker 10: Republicans certainly hope. So when I mentioned that recent polling,

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Speaker 10: for a while, Senator Casey, the incumbent Democrat, had a

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Speaker 10: nine percentage point lead in that race. It has narrowed

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Speaker 10: And we have seen the way that that race has

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Speaker 10: So there have been kind of small missteps made by

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Speaker 10: Dave McCormick. Him pronouncing jungling incorrectly was not a good

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Speaker 3: But he made some.

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Speaker 10: Remarks about the Affordable Care Act more recently in a

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Speaker 10: able to stay on their parents' healthcare plan. That is

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Speaker 10: something that we've heard Senator Casey bring up time and

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Speaker 10: time again. Most recently is last night in that rally

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Speaker 3: I was in Wisconsin last week. This is an issue

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Speaker 10: This notion among Republicans that they might re visit the

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Speaker 10: Affordable Care Act make changes to healthcare policy in this

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Speaker 10: I should say Bob Casey comes from Pennsylvania, political royalty.

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Speaker 10: His dad was the governor of the state two times.

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Speaker 10: He's a known quantity not from Philadelphia, but from Scranton,

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Speaker 4: All right, Bloomberg's David gera life in Pennsylvania on this

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Speaker 4: election day, Thank you so much. Now we want to

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Speaker 4: turn to another part of the Rustfeld, another battleground state

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Speaker 4: we are watching this evening, and that to Michigan, where

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Speaker 4: we find Bloomberg's remain bostic in Detroit. So remain. We

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Speaker 4: remember during the primary season one hundred thousand voters in

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Speaker 4: protest choosing not to vote for what was then candidate

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden in Michigan. It's a question of what those

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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand and of the rest of the voters

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and both candidates spent the last final days of

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Speaker 7: their campaign in the state of Michigan really trying to

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Speaker 7: make their case. Of course, Trump closing it out in

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Speaker 7: the early morning hours today in Grand Rapids, Michigan, not

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Speaker 7: even taking the stage until after midnight. While his speech

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Speaker 7: generally hit on some of the main themes that he's

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Speaker 7: been known for through this campaign, he made it clear

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Speaker 7: that voter turnout was going to be a big factor

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Speaker 7: here in the state of Michigan. And there's a big

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Speaker 7: reason why he joined here. While he did joke a

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Speaker 7: little bit here about superstition, he closed out his twenty

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Speaker 7: sixteen and twenty twenty campaigns in Grand Rapids as well.

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Speaker 7: But Kent County, which where Grand Rapids sit, is a

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Speaker 7: potentially big swing county. In fact, when you talk about

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Speaker 7: the swing state of Michigan, most people talk about two

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Speaker 7: swing counties.

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Speaker 3: Oakland, the more prosperous.

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Speaker 7: County that encompasses the Detroit suburbs right where I'm standing,

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Speaker 7: and Kent County, a more middle class area out far west,

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Speaker 7: closer to Lake Michigan. These have become big barometers here

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Speaker 7: for how the state of Michigan goes. Remember, Kent County

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Speaker 7: actually went for Trump back in twenty six team, though

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Speaker 7: it went for Biden in twenty twenty. It also went

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Speaker 7: for Obama back in eight before turning to Romney in

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Speaker 7: twenty twelve.

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Speaker 3: Make of that what you will here, but.

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Speaker 7: Both candidates both campaigns feel that they have to went

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Speaker 7: Kent County as well as Oakland County if they want

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Speaker 3: Great set up.

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Speaker 2: Romaine joining us from the Northwest Activities Center polling location.

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Speaker 2: Awfully busy in Detroit today, Romaine Bostik, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being in the field for us on this

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Speaker 2: election day. As we assemble our political panel. Can't have

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Speaker 2: an election day without Rick Davis, partner at Stone Court Capital,

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Speaker 2: Republican strategist, and Jeanie Schanzano, Democratic analyst, political science professor

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Speaker 2: at Iona University. Great to see you both here. We

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Speaker 2: finally made it. I just want to know what's going

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Speaker 2: through both of your minds here. We're walking into a

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Speaker 2: race that is absolutely deadlocked. Nobody knows what's about to happen,

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Speaker 2: So how do you watch it?

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Speaker 3: Rick?

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Speaker 11: I love election days As a former campaign manager. It

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Speaker 11: was the day that I had to myself you couldn't

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Speaker 11: buy any more TV, no more rallies, no more mail

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Speaker 11: programs to approve it's fantastic. You just got to make

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Speaker 11: sure that your ground games out there turn vote, and

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Speaker 11: I think that's critical. I think we're now in the

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Speaker 11: closest race in modern history. It's the fewest number of

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Speaker 11: So ground game matters.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you interview.

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Speaker 11: Polsters, what do you think, what do you think ground game?

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Speaker 5: That's when they like punt.

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Speaker 11: Forget all the data, it's ground game. And I think

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Speaker 11: that's correct. And so we know that Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 11: invested heavily. She's got thousands of employees all over the

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Speaker 11: country and these targeted states turning out vote. And Donald

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Speaker 11: Trump is relying on Elon Musk. So is must the

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Speaker 11: hero of the Republican Party coming in, swooping in with

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Speaker 11: And so I think that's what's got everybody on edge.

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Speaker 11: So we'll start seeing the results of that earlier tonight.

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Speaker 3: Well, so as we.

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Speaker 4: Consider the ground game genie, that can't really be captured

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Speaker 4: properly in polls necessarily, right, for all of the talk

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Speaker 4: about how tight the margin is, and pretty much every

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Speaker 4: or in the battleground states, they can't capture enthusiasm in

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Speaker 12: Really yeah, it's really difficult. And what we hear is

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Speaker 2: Remarkable, especially in the last drop we got Sienna and

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Speaker 4: This election well, and an important reminder that abortion is

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Speaker 9: Who when he was president hands selected three members of

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Speaker 6: Every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this

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Speaker 4: Joining us now for more Here in balance of power

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Speaker 4: Senate Judiciary Committee. Senator, Happy election day, Thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for joining us. I'm not sure your degree of

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Speaker 13: I think it's a major factor. I can just tell

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Speaker 2: Well, how are you feel about things going into this

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Speaker 3: So where are you looking?

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Speaker 13: It just isn't the same thing. These folks really care,

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Speaker 13: and if we do well in the blue range, the

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Speaker 13: blue wall that they talk about here, I think it'll

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Speaker 4: Well, as you raised the likes of incumbent Senators Tammy

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Speaker 4: Baldwin and others who are facing tough re election fights

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Speaker 4: today as well. Senator, it raises the question of even

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Speaker 4: if Kamala Harris is able to pull off this victory,

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Speaker 4: the prevailing wisdom is that you will become a member

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Speaker 4: of the minority, that the Republicans will be able to

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Speaker 4: flip the Senate, as they only need to pick up

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Speaker 4: net two seats. How would Washington work in that scenario.

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Speaker 4: Where are the areas for cooperation?

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Speaker 13: That's a very good question, but I'm not going to

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Speaker 13: concede your point that it's going to be a Republican Senate.

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Speaker 13: We need one or two break through and I can

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Speaker 13: point to the states you can too that are possibilities.

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Speaker 13: If God forbid, the Republicans take control of the Senate

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Speaker 13: and Kamala is our president, it's going to be a

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Speaker 13: matter of negotiating questions like filling vacancies and judgeships and

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Speaker 13: working together. I hope we can find that common ground.

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Speaker 2: Well, how much, Senator, then, will the top of the

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Speaker 2: ticket help to determine the balance of power in the

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Speaker 2: US Senate? When we look at some of the Senate

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Speaker 2: races in the Blue Wall states, for instance, how close

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Speaker 2: they are Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Will the presidency help to

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Speaker 2: decide the balance of power in your chamber?

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Speaker 13: Well, I think you addressed that earlier in the program.

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Speaker 13: In some years, it appears that it helps, In some

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Speaker 13: it hurts. I will just tell you that those three

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Speaker 13: senatorial candidates and many others we talked about, certainly have

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Speaker 13: a strong record and a strong message to bring to

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Speaker 13: the voters. Kamala is put together an amazing campaign in

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Speaker 13: a little over one hundred days that she's been the nominee,

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Speaker 13: and I think the fact that she's inspired so many

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Speaker 13: volunteers to go door to door in these states going

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Speaker 13: to make a definitive difference in these Senate races as

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Speaker 13: well well.

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Speaker 4: As we watch all of this and the issues voters

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Speaker 4: will be considering as they make their choices up and

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Speaker 4: down the ballot, Senator, do you feel that Harris campaign

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Speaker 4: has done an adequate job addressing all of them? We

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Speaker 4: obviously have heard a lot of her argument around reproductive freedom,

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Speaker 4: especially casting Trump as a threat to democracy talking about

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Speaker 4: the economy, Yes, but so too has Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 4: has cast a lot of blame for the last four

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Speaker 4: years and the inflation people have experienced on her in

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Speaker 4: this administration, seeing those for the border. Are those the

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Speaker 4: issues that she risks losing on if that's how it

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Speaker 4: turns out tonight.

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Speaker 13: I don't think so, and I'll tell you why. From

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Speaker 13: the beginning, Kamala has made the economy the issue. That's

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Speaker 13: what the voters are saying, and she's beckoning them up

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Speaker 13: by saying that'll be a high priority in her administration.

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Speaker 13: But I'll also tell you when she talks about the

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Speaker 13: management style of Donald Trump, the question about the future

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Speaker 13: of our democracy is at stake here. He's a candidate

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Speaker 13: who's running and basically says, if I lose, it means

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Speaker 13: that there is cheating and somebody stole it from me.

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Speaker 13: He's stuck with that story for four years, the big lie.

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Speaker 13: This is an even bigger lie if he does and

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Speaker 13: that similar circumstance. I think she's talking about our democracy,

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Speaker 13: which is a fundamental issue at stake in this election.

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Speaker 2: Well, with that said, Senator, and based on your perch

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Speaker 2: on the Judiciary Committee, donald Trump appointed over two hundred

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Speaker 2: federal judges in his term. What would a Trump two

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Speaker 2: point zero mean for the US judiciary.

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Speaker 13: Well, that's a good question. Under the rules of the Senate,

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Speaker 13: for example, we have something called a blue slip, which

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Speaker 13: means that both parties and their senators have quite a

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Speaker 13: bit of a say as to whether a nominee is

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Speaker 13: going to move forward. So there has to be compromise

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Speaker 13: in that regard. But I will tell you that Donald Trump,

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Speaker 13: with the help of Democrats, had two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 13: four nominations filled in his four years. We have filled

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Speaker 13: two hundred and thirteen under President Biden, and have another

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Speaker 13: twenty plus on the calendar for the remainder of the year.

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Speaker 13: So we can matching.

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Speaker 14: I hope we do well.

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Speaker 4: If we consider as well the highest court in the land,

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. Senator, there is a chance the next

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Speaker 4: president will have some vacancies to fill. Would a President

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Speaker 4: Harris have difficulty doing so depending on what the Senate

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Speaker 4: majority looks like.

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Speaker 13: Well, it is a simple majority in the Senate when

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Speaker 13: it comes to filling the Supreme Court vacancies. And that's

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Speaker 13: why Trump was able to put three anti choice justices

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Speaker 13: on the Court. If we're going to move forward and

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Speaker 13: the circumstances you're describing with President Harris and a Republican Senate,

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Speaker 13: there will have to be compromises made. It's the only

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Speaker 13: way we can pass something, even by majority in the Senate.

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Speaker 3: Senator.

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Speaker 2: Last time we sat down with you was in Chicago

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Speaker 2: for the Democratic National Convention, and one of the big

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Speaker 2: storylines going into the DNC it was the protest vote

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Speaker 2: that we saw materialize in the primaries, the uncommitted vote

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Speaker 2: that Joe Biden withstood and faced in many cases from

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Speaker 2: Arab American voters and others who were not happy with

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Speaker 2: many progressives not happy with the policy in Israel. Expectations

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Speaker 2: for widespread protests that the DNC never materialized, though, and

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Speaker 2: I wonder if you see that being a risk tonight

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Speaker 2: for Kamala Harris, or if this is a media narrative.

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Speaker 13: There are so many elements go into this decision making process,

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Speaker 13: but the fear at the outset was that there would

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Speaker 13: be a boycott support of Democratic candidates over Middle Eastern issues.

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Speaker 13: I think once Donald Trump was articulate in his own

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Speaker 13: way as to where he stood, people realize there's too

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Speaker 13: much at stake to lose this race over that issue.

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Speaker 13: It will affect some voters for sure, but I think

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Speaker 13: by and large we understand that Kamala Harris has a rational,

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Speaker 13: thoughtful approach to this which wants to end the conflict

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Speaker 13: soon and help on a humanitarian side as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 2: Any election day rituals, superstitions you want to share with us, Senator.

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Speaker 13: There's a great delicatessen in Chicago called Manny's and Amona

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Speaker 13: way there now every election day for the last twenty

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Speaker 13: plus years, I've gone there, and I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 13: Cornby Sandwiches.

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Speaker 1: That sounds good.

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Speaker 3: I hope you have a great lunch.

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Speaker 2: Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, We thank you, as always

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Speaker 2: for the time. We're also watching, of course, how markets

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Speaker 2: are moving on this election day. This is a big

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Speaker 2: part of the story for us here on Bloomberg, and

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Speaker 2: we turned to Bloomberg Markets correspondent Abigail do Little for

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Speaker 2: more on this. You wouldn't think it was a contested

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Speaker 2: election with the way the markets are moving today, Abigail,

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Speaker 2: what do you.

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Speaker 3: Think you went at all?

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Speaker 15: Given the fact that you have the S and P

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Speaker 15: five hundred and the NAZAC both up more than one percent.

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Speaker 15: For the S and P five hundred, this is the

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Speaker 15: best day in about six weeks. We have the index

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Speaker 15: at session highs. We've had more recently these small moves

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Speaker 15: up and down the churn on the uncertainty. So when

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Speaker 15: we connect today's move to the intersection between business and politics,

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Speaker 15: one observation could be a potential Donald Trump administration could

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Speaker 15: be harsh on big tech. Big tech is driving today's moves,

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Speaker 15: so that might be a little bit of a nod

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Speaker 15: against Donald Trump. On the other hand, when we take

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Speaker 15: a look at the Trump trade over the last three

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Speaker 15: months and basically the amount of time since VP Kamala

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Speaker 15: Harris has been in the race, well it's doing pretty well.

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Speaker 15: That tech index is higher, so again you could have

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Speaker 15: that interpretation around Donald Trump. You have the Solar ETF

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Speaker 15: in a nod toward Kamala Harris. But take a look

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Speaker 15: at bitcoin, take a look at DJT. Both of these

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Speaker 15: are higher. So market's a little bit mixed. But that

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Speaker 15: Trump trade that everybody has been talking about really pretty

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Speaker 15: strong into today.

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Speaker 4: Well, as we consider these trades, Abigail, I know you

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Speaker 4: always keep a close eye on volatility. That could go

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Speaker 4: for both the equity market and the bond market. With

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Speaker 4: the move index, what signals is it sending today?

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Speaker 15: It's interesting, So we do have heightened volatility. That vix

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Speaker 15: is above a twenty, and that does signal uncertainty on

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Speaker 15: the part of investors. Now relative to the VIX, it's

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Speaker 15: at some of the higher levels that it's been at

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Speaker 15: more recently. Some could say that this is investors taking

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Speaker 15: advantage of the uncertainty, candidate agnostic, that they're just trying

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Speaker 15: to make money off of this volatility. However, there are

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Speaker 15: some other folks on the street, including Steve Sasnika over

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Speaker 15: at Interactive Brow course you yesterday told me that he

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Speaker 15: sees a lot of big institutions hedging. That's why on Monday,

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Speaker 15: the put to call ratio those bearish options versus bullish

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Speaker 15: options at the highest level since twenty twenty. So this

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Speaker 15: is not unusual for an election cycle. But right now

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Speaker 15: that Vick's coming back in, so investors seem to be

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Speaker 15: a little bit calm surprisingly on this election day.

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Speaker 2: All right, Gil, what are we going to be in

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Speaker 2: for tonight in the overnight session if we have no

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Speaker 2: race call.

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Speaker 15: Well, if there's no race call and there's any sense

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Speaker 15: that there could be a contested election, you could see

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Speaker 15: the futures go very negative. Back in two thousand, between

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Speaker 15: I believe, let's call it twelve am of the day

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Speaker 15: after election through the bottom in December, stocks down sharply.

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Speaker 15: Investors don't like uncertainty. That is certainly uncertainty investors wuldn't like,

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Speaker 15: and at that point you'd probably see that VIX spike

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Speaker 4: All right, Bloomberg Markets correspondent Abigail Dolittle, thank you so much, Joe.

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Speaker 4: As Abigail talks about the kind of calm we might

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Speaker 4: be seeing, I guess that race is the question of

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Speaker 4: how everyone is feeling on this election day. Keeping in

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Speaker 4: mind there's not much more that can be done at

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Speaker 4: this point. The arguments have been made. The ground game

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Speaker 4: has been at work for months, and now it's just

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Speaker 4: a matter of how many people show up and cast.

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Speaker 3: Their Well, that's absolutely right. There's no more cramming for

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Speaker 3: the test.

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Speaker 2: Although it's interesting to consider the positioning for volatility in

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Speaker 2: either direction. We've seen market fits in both directions when

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Speaker 2: Trump was leading or Paris was perceived to be leading.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be money to be made either way.

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Speaker 2: We just have no idea which one that will be.

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Speaker 8: I think it's very important to not operate from the

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Speaker 8: assumption that black men are in anybody's pocket. Black men

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Speaker 8: are like any other voting group. You got to earn

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Speaker 8: their vote. So I'm working to earn the vote, not

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Speaker 8: assuming I'm going to have it because I am black.

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Speaker 4: Joining us now for more from Bloomberg's Washington DC Bureau

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Speaker 4: or two special guests. Martin Luther King, the third chairman

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Speaker 4: of the Drum Major Institute and son of the late

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Speaker 4: doctor Martin Luther King Junior and Andrea Waters King, president

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Speaker 4: of the Drum Major Institute. Welcome to you both. Thank

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Speaker 4: you for being here on Bloomberg on this election day. Martin,

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Speaker 4: if I could just begin with you, Kamala Harris has

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Speaker 4: not throughout her campaign leaned into the historic nature of

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Speaker 4: her candidacy, not only that she would be a woman

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Speaker 4: potentially elected president, but a black and South Asian woman

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Speaker 4: at that. What does it mean to you as you

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Speaker 4: spent so much of your life fighting for equality.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think it demonstrates that people are very concerned

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Speaker 16: about the issues, not necessarily the fnic and the fact

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Speaker 16: that we've had a black president and not a woman

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Speaker 16: that is extraordinarily important. However, I think stand on the

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Speaker 16: issues is what people How is my life going to

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Speaker 16: change under your leadership? And I think she's demonstrated what

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Speaker 16: she intends to do if she becomes president of the

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Speaker 16: United States.

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Speaker 2: Ardfred, do you agree, because the potential to make history

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Speaker 2: is very compelling to some voters here when you back

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Speaker 2: off this race, that's been a major backdrop since Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris reached the top of the ticket. Or is it

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Speaker 2: in fact, kitchen table issues that drive people today.

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Speaker 17: I think it's a combination of both. Obviously as a

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Speaker 17: black woman and as the mother of a black daughter,

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Speaker 17: it is something that we are extremely proud of to

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Speaker 17: have the vice president hopefully soon to be president heading

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Speaker 17: our country. Also, we're also at a time when women

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Speaker 17: have progressively lost rights, and so I think that you're

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Speaker 17: seeing women coming together and standing together and in fact,

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Speaker 17: we really might be the deciding vote in this election today.

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Speaker 4: Well, it certainly could be women that ultimately make or

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Speaker 4: break this thing for Kamala Harrison, although will depend on turnout,

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Speaker 4: and that is what both of these candidates Andrea have

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Speaker 4: been really fighting for in the final stretch here. Are

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Speaker 4: you confident that voters are going to be getting off

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Speaker 4: the couches and participating in this election.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely. We have spent so many weeks and months ourselves

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Speaker 17: out with the canvassers. We were just in North Fulton

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Speaker 17: on Friday, and I'll tell you, the excitement that we

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Speaker 17: are seeing is something that since the announcement of this

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Speaker 17: candidacy up until now, is something that's continuing to grow.

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Speaker 17: And we saw that in the numbers of early voting,

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Speaker 17: certainly in Georgia breaking records, and we also are seeing

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Speaker 17: that in early voting around the country. I do think

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Speaker 17: that we're going to continue that's going that will uphold today.

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Speaker 2: Mister King, I wonder your thoughts over the past couple

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Speaker 2: of months some of the rhetoric that we've heard on

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Speaker 2: the campaign trail. We just opened with comments that Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris made before the NABJ. Donald Trump had some comments

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Speaker 2: to the NABJ as well that questioned her racial identity,

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Speaker 2: and it's a narrative that he has pushed through the

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Speaker 2: course of this cycle. Some have called it corrosive, some

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Speaker 2: have called it dated, Some say it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 16: Well, I think that it should be irrelevant the ethnicity again.

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Speaker 5: Of a person.

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Speaker 16: It should be We maybe haven't gotten theiled with some people,

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Speaker 16: but as it relates to black men, specifically black men,

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Speaker 16: I believe are going to support overwhelmingly the candidacy of

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Speaker 16: the vice president to help her become the president, along

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Speaker 16: with a vast coalition of others.

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Speaker 4: But Donald Trump has spent a great deal of time

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Speaker 4: vying for the vote of black men and talking about

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Speaker 4: how he is doing better with them than Republicans have

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Speaker 4: in the past, and considering mister King that you said

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Speaker 4: issues are ultimately what matters here. What issue is it

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Speaker 4: that there is a disconnect with at least some black

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Speaker 4: men and Kamala Harrison the idea she has put forward.

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Speaker 16: So I think when you talk about the prospect of

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Speaker 16: supporting small and disadvantaged businesses, when you talk about getting

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Speaker 16: a loan that might be forgivable. I think when you

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Speaker 16: talk about the fact that reducing prices, I mean black men,

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Speaker 16: like every man wants to be able to take care

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Speaker 16: of their families. Every woman wants to be able to

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Speaker 16: take care of their families. And when you talk about

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Speaker 16: these bread and butter issues, I believe there is an

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Speaker 16: opening there, there's support. I just think that at the

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Speaker 16: end of the day, the vast majority of black people

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Speaker 16: are going to be supportive of the vice president.

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Speaker 17: May I also add, we also are talking about someone

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Speaker 17: who said that he won the last election, and we

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Speaker 17: also are talking about someone who said that he had

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Speaker 17: audiences the largest in inauguration history, or audiences that were

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Speaker 17: larger than the March on Washington, no matter what photo

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Speaker 17: evidence stated to the contrary. So let's talk about the

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Speaker 17: facts when they come out. Let's not necessarily take Donald

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Speaker 17: Trump at his word.

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Speaker 2: Well, Andrea Waters King, tell me how you would describe then,

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Speaker 2: some of the racial rhetoric that we've heard on the campaign,

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Speaker 2: culminating with that massive Trump rally at Madison Square Garden

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Speaker 2: that had jokes that we couldn't tell on the air.

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Speaker 17: Not only jokes that we wouldn't tell on the air,

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Speaker 17: those are things that we teach our children that are wrong.

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Speaker 17: You know, I worked for many years monitoring hate groups

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Speaker 17: and hate crimes such as the klu Klut's Plan, Neo Nazis,

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Speaker 17: and skinheads, and it is very alarming for me to

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Speaker 17: see the very rhetoric that we were researching at the

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Speaker 17: time actually now being said from the anals of some

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Speaker 17: of the highest levels of power in our land. And

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Speaker 17: also to not only see this type of these words

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Speaker 17: that are being saying, but also seeing those things being

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Speaker 17: passed into laws. So it is very troubling, which is

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Speaker 17: why I think that we're going to see, and we

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Speaker 17: have seen, such a strong standing for unity in this country,

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Speaker 17: for a path forward, for turning that page on the

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Speaker 17: hate and the visiveness of the past.

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Speaker 16: And let me add one thing, because the question is

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Speaker 16: what is sustainable most people understand when we're building a

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Speaker 16: world of peace and justice and righteousness, if you're advocating vitriol,

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Speaker 16: it is not sustainable. My dad would say, we must

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Speaker 16: learn non violence or we may face non existence. We

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Speaker 16: don't want to face that. We're going to face building.

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Speaker 16: What my father and mother would say is the beloved community.

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Speaker 4: Well and so much, sir. Of what they were fighting

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Speaker 4: for was the right to vote. And obviously many more people,

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Speaker 4: in part because of their work, do have the right

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Speaker 4: to vote today. But given in the lead up to

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Speaker 4: this election some of the legal action, we have seen

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Speaker 4: questions around who can and cannot be purged from voter

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Speaker 4: rules this close to an election, how ballots can be counted,

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Speaker 4: which ballots are valid if there are mistakes. Do you

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Speaker 4: have concerns about the right to vote being rolled back

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Speaker 4: for at least some segments of the population.

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Speaker 16: I certainly always have concerns. I've always wondered why we

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Speaker 16: purge people from voting. But yet we can drive as

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Speaker 16: drivers forever and you're never removed from the driving roles.

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Speaker 16: If you understand the analogy, The fact is you may

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Speaker 16: not vote one year or two years, but you shouldn't

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Speaker 16: be removed. You still have that right, but yet we

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Speaker 16: orchestrate the kind of results that we want to see.

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Speaker 16: And I think those who say, let's support the John

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Speaker 16: Lewis Voting Rights Bill, which all people need, not any

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Speaker 16: one ethnic group, that's the right course. And the hope

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Speaker 16: is that Kamala Harris wins and in fact the legislative

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Speaker 16: bodies will pass that legislation for once and for all.

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Speaker 2: Or if there's an expectation that Democrats will take control

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Speaker 2: of the House, do you see some hope for the

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Speaker 2: John Lewis Voting Rights Bill in Washington if that happens.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely. We have been working for that federal legislation for

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Speaker 17: years now, and we have confirmation from soon to be

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Speaker 17: President Kamala Harris that that is something that she will

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Speaker 17: push forward. I think, with the power of the House

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Speaker 17: behind her, that that will become an ultimate reality. And

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Speaker 17: you know that people have talked about the fact that, yes,

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Speaker 17: there's been record turnouts, that does not mean that we

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Speaker 17: do not need to secure federal voting rights once and

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Speaker 17: for all. Our daughter has progressively lost rights since the

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Speaker 17: day that she was born. The crowning achievement of voting

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Speaker 17: that was her grandparents' legacy has been eroded. Yes, we've

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Speaker 17: had great organizers, but we should not continue to fight

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Speaker 17: that battle. Voting rights are birthrights and should be in

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Speaker 17: this country.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank you both for an important conversation

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Speaker 2: with us in our Washington Bureau. Martin Luther King the

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Speaker 2: third ar Andrea Waters King, thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 18: Bleiden, where we had the highest inflation in forty years.

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Speaker 18: The bottom fifty percent of workers are getting crushed.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 18: I call it the three eyes inflation, interest rates, and immigration.

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Speaker 18: And if you want more of that, then you should

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Speaker 18: vote for it.

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Speaker 5: Biden wanted much higher taxes.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris came into twenty eight percent for tax rate

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Speaker 2: for cap gains and twenty eight percent for corporation and

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Speaker 2: did not say a word and will not say a

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Speaker 2: word about unrealized capital gains.

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Speaker 3: And so I think she's completely different.

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Speaker 2: Scott Bessen and Mark Cuban there with their views of

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Speaker 2: the economic proposals coming from both campaigns, and it's an

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Speaker 2: opportunity now to bring in Michael Wattley.

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Speaker 3: We've been looking.

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Speaker 2: Forward to talking with the Chairman of the Republican National Committee.

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Speaker 2: He's with us from the Washington, DC area at RNC headquarters.

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Speaker 2: Mister Chairman, welcome to Bloomberg TV and Radio bluftask and

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Speaker 2: we'll get to the situation in North Carolina and your

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Speaker 2: expectations for what happens tonight. But broadly speaking, this is

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Speaker 2: our opportunity to ask the Chairman what he's hearing. I

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Speaker 2: know you have people fanned out around the country looking

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Speaker 2: at poles, looking at returns.

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Speaker 3: Can you give us an update.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: What I would say is, coming into election day, Republicans

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Speaker 19: were really poised to have a fantastic day. When you

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Speaker 19: look at voter registration numbers, you look at the early vote,

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Speaker 19: the absentee ballot requests and returns, all of that put

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Speaker 19: the Republicans in a great position to win. We had

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Speaker 19: an outright lead in states like Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and

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Speaker 19: North Carolina, and we substantially narrowed the leads that Democrats

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Speaker 19: typically have going into election day in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 19: So you put all of that together with a robust

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Speaker 19: turnout on election day, that makes us feel fairly comfortable

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Speaker 19: that we're going to have a good night tonight. As

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Speaker 19: I told the President, if you know you're in a

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Speaker 19: good position to win on election day, we just have

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Speaker 19: to win on election day well.

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Speaker 4: And it becomes a question of how that win would happen.

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Speaker 4: Mister Chairman, what is the path your most confident in

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Speaker 4: at this hour. Does it run through the sun Belt

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Speaker 4: or the Rust Belt?

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Speaker 5: I think you need a combination of the two.

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Speaker 19: Right now, what we're seeing right is a good solid

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Speaker 19: lead for the Republicans in Arizona, Nevadage, Georgia, North Carolina.

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Speaker 19: We feel comfortable that we will be able to carry

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Speaker 19: the day with those states given our traditional you know,

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Speaker 19: election day patterns, and then we would need at that

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Speaker 19: point in time to just pick off one of Wisconsin, Michigan,

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Speaker 19: and Pennsylvania. We have small but durable leads in the

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Speaker 19: polls in all of those states, very solid performance during

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Speaker 19: the early vote period, so we're very anxious and ready

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Speaker 19: to go for those three states.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from the aforementioned Mick mulvaney, mister

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Speaker 2: Wattley talking about North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: He just got back.

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Speaker 2: From the state and described his trip across North Carolina

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Speaker 2: what he was seeing on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen.

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Speaker 14: I drove from Raleigh, North Carolina to Charlotte this weekend

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Speaker 14: through the back roads, and I got to tell you,

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Speaker 14: I think you're going to see North Carolina go for

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Speaker 14: Kamala Harris. I think Donald Trump is going to walk

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Speaker 14: to Georgia a win in Georgia, but may well lose

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Speaker 14: North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: As the former chair of the state's Republican Party, Michael Watley.

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Speaker 3: What do you say to that.

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Speaker 5: I feel very good about North Carolina.

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Speaker 19: The first time in the history of the state, Republicans

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Speaker 19: actually have a lead coming out of the early vote

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Speaker 19: absenteev of vote here, the pulling looks very, very solid.

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Speaker 19: North Carolina has always been a purple state. It's always

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Speaker 19: been a battleground state. It's a very tight It was

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Speaker 19: our most narrow wind in twenty twenty for President Trump.

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Speaker 19: But we do like the numbers and we have a

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Speaker 19: great team on the ground there.

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Speaker 4: We heard from former President Trump earlier today after he

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Speaker 4: voted in Florida, suggesting that so far he thinks this

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Speaker 4: election has been fair. He said that as of roughly

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Speaker 4: noon today, mister chairman, and the question is going to

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Speaker 4: be what we hear from Donald Trump later on this evening.

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Speaker 4: Do you expect, regardless of whether the final tally is

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Speaker 4: in or not, that Donald Trump will be declaring victory

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Speaker 4: by the end of tonight.

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Speaker 5: We'll just have to wait and see what those results

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Speaker 5: look like.

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Speaker 4: But you're not you're confident that he won't prematurely declare victory.

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Speaker 19: I would just have to say, we will wait and

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Speaker 19: see what those results look like. If we have fair, accurate,

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Speaker 19: secure and transparent elections, then we would be glad to

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Speaker 19: acknowledge those and move forward.

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Speaker 2: Understood, Let's get into that for a moment, because we

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Speaker 2: had a bomb threat turned out to be, according to

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State Raffensberger in Georgia, a Russian hoax. What

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Speaker 2: are you hearing around the cun free mister chairman. Is

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Speaker 2: there funny business we should know about? Or has this

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Speaker 2: been a fair and safe election?

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Speaker 5: So far, so far, so good.

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Speaker 19: We obviously are very concerned about what we saw down

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Speaker 19: in Atlanta and think that the authorities took all the

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Speaker 19: proper precautions to clear that voting location, conduct a sweep,

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Speaker 19: realize that it was okay, and then allow voters to

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Speaker 19: go back in. We also have seen usual types of

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Speaker 19: issues where a polling location didn't open exactly on time,

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Speaker 19: or a machine didn't work, or ran out of the

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Speaker 19: ink at toner cartridge or something along those lines, which

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Speaker 19: are going to be resolved very quickly and we'll be

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Speaker 19: able to move on with the process well.

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Speaker 4: And of course, as we watch the voting process play out,

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Speaker 4: voters are not just selecting who they'd like to be

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Speaker 4: President of the United States, but other candidates as well,

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Speaker 4: including those that will represent them in the House of

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Speaker 4: Representatives and the Senate. Mister Chairman, there is only so

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Speaker 4: much a President Trump could do without the cooperation of Congress.

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Speaker 4: So as you look from your purchase, the chair of

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Speaker 4: the Republican National Can, how are you feeling about the

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Speaker 4: odds of flipping the Senate and retaining the House.

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Speaker 19: We feel very good about the Senate at this point

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Speaker 19: in time. We're gonna win Montana, We're gonna win West Virginia.

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Speaker 19: That will give the Republicans fifty one seats. We also

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Speaker 19: feel very very good about Ohio. And then you look

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Speaker 19: at a combination of states in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 19: as well as Arizona and Nevada. Depending on what those

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Speaker 19: overall numbers look like, we could have a very very

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Speaker 19: good night for the Republicans when it comes to the House. Similarly,

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Speaker 19: we are in a position to be able to expand

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Speaker 19: our majority there. Right now, it's a two seat majority,

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Speaker 19: and if this election night goes as we currently are tracking,

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Speaker 19: then hopefully we'll be able to pick up four or

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Speaker 19: five six seats there.

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Speaker 2: Well, mister chairman, Donald Trump's been talking about you. He

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Speaker 2: brought you up at a rally in North Carolina, considering

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Speaker 2: the stakes in this election. He said, you better win.

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Speaker 2: I want to get this right. You better win or

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Speaker 2: you won't be able to come back here. He doesn't win,

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Speaker 2: he says he won't be we at Urn City, will

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Speaker 2: no longer be in North Carolina, will be looking for

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Speaker 2: a job. I know that there's probably some joking going

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Speaker 2: on there, mister chairman, But what kind of pressure are

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Speaker 2: you feeling today?

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Speaker 19: What I feel right now is cautious optimism. We are

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Speaker 19: very upbeat about where we are. The infrastructure that we have.

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Speaker 19: The campaign staff, the RNC staff have worked seamlessly together.

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Speaker 19: President Trump has been out there in every single battleground

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Speaker 19: state multiple times over the course of the last several weeks.

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Speaker 19: We had three events on Friday, three events on Saturday,

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Speaker 19: three events on Sunday, and four events yesterday, and so

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Speaker 19: nobody is out working the president. We feel very good

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Speaker 19: about where we are coming into election day and right

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Speaker 19: now we're very happy with what we're seeing on the ground.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: Our NC Chairman, Michael Wattley, thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: joining us on this election day. We appreciate your time.

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