WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 16 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:05.240 Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. You're running the 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:10.920 gun broke, He's got Jimmy udown twenty five checkdown when 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:22.599 it is victory. Monday, December sixteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.960 Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:34.800 guy who's constantly being reminded that he's number one. J P. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.879 Che not as not as much as Tony was on Sunday. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.840 You're they're friendly fans in Oakland. They thought very highly 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.599 of me. They kept on telling me you're number one, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.519 You're number one, and I appreciate it. Thank you, that 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.800 kind of them, very kind. Welcome Jaguars Happy Hour presented 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.800 by Jet Home Loans. My name's j P. Shadrick. His 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.760 name is Tony Baselly. Pete Priscoe is with us down 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.400 in South Florida as well. We've got some things to 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.400 discuss this afternoon, gentlemen. We'll start off, of course, with 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.639 the Jags over the Raiders, twenty six team Minshew magic 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.720 in that game to get him back in it, the 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.640 second half shut out by the defense, social media questions, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.120 and we'll go around the a f C South and 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.800 the NFL that's all coming up on the show. But 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.160 within the last half hour or so, the nfl p 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.319 A has put out a statement involving the Jacksonville Jaguars 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.880 saying that the association has won a grievance against the 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:41.840 Jags involving a former Jaguars player in and offseason rehab 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.960 assignments and the fines that came with those. Well, the 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.880 p A said they had won the grievance today seven 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.120 thousand dollars rescinded, and then had a few statements in 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.200 this thing as well, including you. In the last two years, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.080 more than of the grievances filed in the league have 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.280 been filed against the Jaguars. You, as players, may want 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.640 to consider this when you have a chance to select 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.720 your next club. That was the final line of the 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.799 statement today by the nfl p A. UM pete, what 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.959 do you make of all this? UM? I would expect 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.080 it would be Tom Coffin making the statement only because 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.000 that would be outside of just the play on the field. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.960 It's the whole organization and the deal of the players. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.360 We'll see if there's a statement from him. UM, But overall, 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.560 just not good. I mean, you know, if it's a 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.800 grievance here or there. That's not a big deal, what happens. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.560 But so like the fact that they lost the grievance 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.560 to the named player, Okay, big deal. The line that 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.359 just shook me, like made you step back and think 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.720 it was of all grievance go against this club. That 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.520 was the number. Um that you're kind of like, wow, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.959 that's ah, that's not good because there's always the you know, 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.400 we talked about free agents and players, you know, making 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.600 that part of the decision making process. If all things 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.800 were equal, and that comes into it. There's a competitive 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.280 disadvantage there, but it also affects your locker room. Your 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.560 current locker room is affected by that because if guys 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.560 are ticked off at the organization, that makes it a 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.000 harder job for the head coach to keep everyone together 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.519 and on the same page. And so that's another competitive disadvantage. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:30.000 Um not good. I mean, none of it's good. To Tony, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.280 I gotta ask you this, when when you played, who 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.480 do you think was a team that led the league 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.680 in grievances? Pete, I have no idea, but based on 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.560 how you asked the questions, I mean, my gosh, every 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.200 week there was something else going on with Tom and 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:50.120 stretching the rules and not reporting injuries and that everything else. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:56.240 And so this is not a surprise. He's a very rigid, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.360 very demanding man, and when it comes to things like this, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.320 he's gonna hold a hard line stance on it. And 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:08.120 and this does not surprise me one bit. Seven thousand 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:13.000 dollars in fines for being missing training sessions and and 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.600 they're exorbitant to me during a voluntary time. That's the 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.640 big thing, at least from the view of the p A. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.080 And that's exorbitant to me even if it wasn't. I mean, 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.280 it's just look, there are certain times you go after 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.520 players for your grievance money, and in the grievance there 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.320 are certain times that you just have to let it go. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.840 And sometimes in the past, and you know this, Tom 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.560 has pushed and pushed and pushed. How many times did 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.679 log him and go to the p A and complain 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.799 about Tom's practices and the way he was doing things 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:51.160 a ton, So it's not a surprise to me. The 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.799 number that's a surprise at all grievances, that's a big number. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.880 And I mean, you know, players talking, especially when you're 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.160 not winning it affects the locker room even greater, makes 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:06.360 it harder to do everything. And I guess what, and 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.120 I each of these are individual cases, so it's hard 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.040 to like make these blankets statements. But the CBA is 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.720 pretty clear, Pete. And like, I'm not like I was 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.800 never the big union guy, was a part of the union. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.200 You know, I just gotta go about your business, do 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.240 your job. But the c BA is very clear on 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.960 like what you can ask players to do and what 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.640 they don't have to do at certain times of the 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.720 year and just live by that. It is what it is. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.119 That's what's been negotiating between the owners and the union, 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.160 and we I don't like listen, I don't even like 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:44.400 all the rules that, oh, I'm gonna file a grievance, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.359 file a grievance against Joe. Another surgery on that broken 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.920 down body that hurts. That's the first. It's like the 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.600 first time in the studio anyway. Um, it's not like 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.920 I love all the rules, like the union negotiated to 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.960 protect players like this limited to you know, how many 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.360 times you can have contact during the season, And I 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.760 think it's too short of a period in the offseason 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.159 that you can have guys to work with, especially young players, 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:08.920 so I don't love them. So I'm not like here 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.520 defending the union. But guess what those are the rules? 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:18.280 And and here's the thing that you know drives me 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.640 a little bit crazy because as coaches in front office people, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.320 we want players to follow the rules that we set 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:29.040 forth for them, and they should. But guess what the 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.640 shoe has to put the shoe on the other foot. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.520 What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.440 If that's the case, the front offices and the coaches 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.560 have to respect the rules and follow the rules of 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.760 the c b A. And if you're not, that's a problem. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.680 It should not be that hard. It should not be 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.880 that hard. Well, think about this for a second. Jalen 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.480 Ramsey was traded in large part because there was a 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.160 rift between him and Tom. And when you go back 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.719 to the origin of that rift, what is it. Well, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.360 it started that this offseason when he called out him 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.640 and Talvin about not being their though season program, which 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.520 is voluntary, which he you're not supposed to do. Very 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.040 clear in the c b A. You're not supposed to 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.080 make you know, how Tom is when he has a 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.200 voluntary program for a team. He wants everybody there. It 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.880 doesn't matter if he doesn't matter what. It's a rule, 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.000 because guess what, here's the thing. And I would tell 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.080 Tom this, Like Tom had a rule when I played here, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.880 you had to win. You couldn't wear white sox in 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.200 the road. I thought it was a dumb rule. I 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:33.800 thought it was ridiculous. I told him, I thought was 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.360 a dumb rule. Has nothing to do with me blocking anybody. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.240 Why don't I can't I wear white sox. I like 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.000 white socks. I want to wear white socks. What does 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.360 it matter? Guess what? I didn't wear white sox because 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.960 he was the boss. It's his the team rule. And 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.160 he made a rule, and so I had to follow it, 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.200 whether I liked it or not. I'm sorry if he 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.400 doesn't like the rule. That things aren't my mandatory. He 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.280 still has to fall. We have to follow them as 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.120 an organization and what and don't know the specific but 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.360 I mean, we know that happened because it was said 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.000 in the press conference, But I don't know what the 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.760 nature of these grievances are. So I don't want to 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.960 step too far. But it's just the principle, no different 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.160 than what was expected as me as a player from 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.120 this organization, that the rules set by Tom Coughlin was 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.920 my boss, my head coach, and under the if I 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.800 wanted to be a Jackson Jaguar, I had to follow 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:26.040 his rules. There was a grievance filed on on the 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.360 behalf of Leonard four Nette. That much. We know when 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.920 when they find him for for that situation on the 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.079 sideline when he was sitting on the bench. And I 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.800 think from what I've heard just rumblings, I don't. I 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.440 don't think they won that grievance. I think he did. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.360 He got his money. The B line was rescinded. So 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.680 look the worst line in the entire thing, Tony. Before 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.079 we go to the worst line, I just want to like, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:59.880 unless you know every single um grievance and really understand 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.800 every rule the C B A, I don't know either. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.319 I know the basics, but it's a simple thing, no 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.640 different to me, like if I was talking to players, 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:12.200 this is easy. Like there's rules like if your rules 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.679 of your team is to be on time and do X, 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.920 Y and Z, just be on time, do X, Y 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.200 and Z as long as it doesn't as long as 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.959 it does not violate the c b A. Just do 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.760 it like you don't have to like it. A lot 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.040 of us don't like some of the rules, but just 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.319 do it because that's the way the organization works, and 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.360 that's the way it's gonna make it better for everyone, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.720 including yourself. The same message should be to the front 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.640 office and the coaches, like, this is the rules, here's 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.520 the c b A. This is what your boss, the 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.320 owners negotiating with the PA. So these are the rules. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.120 Guess what, it's not that hard. Just follow them. It's 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:54.319 voluntary until this date. And if they don't hold that 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.560 against them, you can't hold against them. Don't say anything. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.520 You don't have to like it. That's the world. They're 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.240 not violating any rule, they're not doing anything wrong. It's 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.600 not immoral, there's nothing at all. So just like it's 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.480 just part of the deal. Let me ask this, Let 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.200 me ask this. Why why was this done in such 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.920 a public way today of all days by the p 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:18.319 a UM. What my guest today was because it just 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:24.280 came down. It's a huge fine, a huge, huge win 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.000 for the union, huge win for the union, and I 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.720 mean that's it probably just got decided. It's a big win. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.320 It's a big dog ar amount, and they're probably wanting 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.160 to make a statement saying like enough enough, like all 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.360 these grievances are from one team or the like a 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.439 big number, a big percentage, and so we're gonna we're 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.640 gonna take a shot across the bow and say this 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.360 is what we think. It's my guest, it's no different 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.920 than you know what was like two years ago Seattle 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.920 had an extra practice or had contact they weren't supposed to. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.360 PA came out. PA came out, made a big statement. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.719 See me doing this, and we're taking away practice. We've 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.360 agreed with the NFL takeaway it happened to the race. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.120 It's not like abnormal for the PA to come out 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.560 and make a statement. Now this was a strong statement, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.800 and now we also ab normal to mention the amount 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.760 of the fines, that the amount of the fines was interesting, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:29.280 and the last sentence was a was a shot an house. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.600 I want to consider this when you have your chance 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:37.240 to select your next club, basically telling free agents on 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.280 the market, beware if you sign with Jacksonville, Oh, it 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.920 was a shot right at this organization and right at 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.040 the front office. What does it mean for Tom at Tom? 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:52.600 What what does it mean for him. It doesn't mean anything. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.839 I mean, what was the report on I I didn't 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.679 hear the report on ESPN yesterday, Um, but there was 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.160 a report from Morton's and guys on ESPN talking about 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:03.800 the Jaguars. I was on the air at the time, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.920 but somebody sent me, uh something on Twitter saying that 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.319 they thought Tom would go spend more time with his 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.320 family and Maron would be fired, which I told you guys, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.120 I thought that might happen in the first place. But 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:23.080 what's that mean for Dame if that happens. Listen, one 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.040 thing I'm not gonna do. I'm not gonna speculate basic 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.160 because the rumors are gonna start swirling the next two 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.439 weeks and a lot of it is gonna be This 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.160 is because this is what our business does. Our business, 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.520 the media, and especially this time of year. You start 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.040 here and there's zero accountability to the media in this case, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.240 they can say we can say whatever we want on Twitter. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.160 We just make these blanket statements. We take shots in 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.760 the dark. In my opinion, we hear from one source 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:51.160 that's not uh collaboration. There's nothing, no collaboration, there's no confirmation, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.840 there's no anything, and we just put stuff out there 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.280 and most of the time, guess what, guys, it comes 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.880 back is not being true. Well, well not not not necessarily, 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.320 that's not true. Some people are wrong, some people right. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.360 But I'm not reporting they're getting fired. I've never said that. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.079 But two and two weequals four. If you add it 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.920 all up, it looks like it's going to be a 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.599 house clean listen. I mean, based on the performance this 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.520 year and how those things are going, it wouldn't surprise me. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.959 But I don't know that I do. Right, So, but 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.080 when you start, when we start reporting things, it's very easy. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.439 We should start reporting things that this compersion has been gone, 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.240 this person's leaving, and I didn't report that. I'm not 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:37.120 saying you. Pete Espn said that Tom It's rumors are 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.760 Tom's gonna retire, spent time his family, and moro own's gone, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.719 and nothing said about Dave. And your question was what 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.120 does that mean for Dave? I don't know what it 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.600 means for any of them, because I don't know if 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.080 any of that's true. And there's my whole My whole 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.079 problem with this is and nothing against Chris Mortons, and 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.240 I like Chris Mortinson. They all have a job to do. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.600 Let's not forget half of the media business nowadays his entertainment. 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.240 And so we're throwing a bunch of stuff out there 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.760 to keep people informed, to keep people clicking on websites. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.880 But there's no accountability. There's no accountability. If they don't 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.440 get fired, then you can come back and say more 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.120 it was wrong. No, but no one, but no one 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.080 does bete It just we move on to the next thing. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.800 Things happened so much, and we say so many different things, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:23.240 and listen more and more somebody knows people in that organization, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.600 well more, it's time and MORET is close to Tom, right. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.720 So if if he's saying that Tom is going to 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.440 retire and spend more time with his family, which we 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.120 mentioned many a time on this show many a time, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.280 I'm not saying it's not a possibility, and I'm not 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.120 taking any I love Chris Mortons and I think he 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.640 does a great job. I'm just saying I'm not and 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.840 I'm okay with you doing it Pete on the show. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.280 I'm not saying it's bad. I just don't like speculating 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.440 and start making these comments because I don't know, now 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.040 do I would I be sure, I'll say this. Would 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.760 I be shocked if there's not changes based on what 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.080 has happened this year, Yes, I'd be surprised, but I 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.280 don't know what they are. Would it be? Let me 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.040 ask you this, Tony. It's better for Tom in his 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.960 persona in Jacksonville to retire and walk away than it 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.680 is for him to get fired long term? Yes, I 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.680 think right now, I think it would be viewed the same. Yeah. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.400 Probably so, right now it would be viewed the same 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.960 as people Basically saying he was asked to retire is 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.160 what people would assume. Just basically it's been it's not 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:29.920 good right now. A lot of reports coming out the 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.800 stuff happened this weekend, the p A, you know, the 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.080 jail and stuff. I mean, there's been stuff for the 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.840 last six weeks swirling around of negativity and a lot 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.160 of speculation. And so I think, regardless of what happens, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.720 and I don't know what it is, whether he resigns 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.040 or is asked to leave or anything in between, it's 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.960 going to be viewed as it was time to make 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.160 a change. Let's be honest. Though a lot of it 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:58.080 is self inflicted wounds here, a lot of it is yes, yes, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.640 it's always time in this league. 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Yeah, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.000 I believe it or not. And I like to make 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:45.119 an announcement really yeah, I mean I want to be 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.960 humble about this. Everybody listened close. I would like to 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.879 be humble, but really a big part of this victory 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:56.240 was I kind of changed the the flow and kind 0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:00.359 of the momentum because of I started reading cards on 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:05.159 the broadcast, and that energy on the broadcast translated to 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.120 energy on the field, and we got a football game. 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.200 Is that how it worked? We won a football game? Yeah? 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:12.879 I mean I got people all over the country saying 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:18.400 that was amazing. Maybe it was really amazing everywhere. It's 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.359 funny how that works. I mean players they heard about it, Like, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.800 what happened is I started in the first half. Did 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.560 you do it in Denver too? I don't remember. No, 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.240 Well I needed to. I need to break the strength detail. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.440 And so what happened was I did in the first 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:37.960 half and word started swirling around, got to the sidelines, 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:42.280 rolling around like the smoke in the very very similar 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:48.000 to yes, wait a second, he read cards. I mean, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:52.280 you read like the commercial commis. And if that got 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.639 back to the team, they would have started fumbling, just 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.720 like I got back to it got back to the team, 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.800 And that's why thee can have run. Happened because they said, 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:05.399 if he is going to go to bat for us 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.920 like that and bring that kind of passion to the broadcast. 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.439 We're gonna bring it to the field. That was the difference. 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:11.960 I mean, I don't want. I mean, that's what people 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:19.480 are telling me at least insurance Office of Pete. The 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:24.760 weed was out of control, like to the point where 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.320 you know Oakly, you've been Oakland, you've been the press box, 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.840 and so we're up, you know, fift from the stands 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.840 below us, and the windows are open and you'd be 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:40.399 sitting there and this just waff of smoke in uh 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:47.199 stinky weed odor would come into the booth and by 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.200 the end, I mean, it's like, I hope I don't 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.760 get drug tested this week, because it's we're all we're 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:56.040 all failing and you look over and you look over 0:22:56.160 --> 0:23:01.359 and they're just passing joints like it's like at the beach. 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.800 I guess the best question, though, is how did you 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:14.240 know that's what the smell was? Yeah, Joe told me, Yeah, 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.879 in a Santoni over here. It could have been barbecue 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:24.080 or something. I don't know, they were barbecuing something, but 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:30.840 it was not. It wasn't holy it was it was 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.200 I think it was. Chris Conley said you could smell 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.320 it on on the field right, And I remember that 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.760 even back in like it was worst sideline. I'm sure 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:43.760 it was a special I've been what happened after the game. 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:45.880 There was like a little mini riot after the game. 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:48.560 It wasn't I mean, there's a handful of guys that 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.520 jumped on the field. They all got hand just just 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.520 just completely demolished by the police. Um. There were some 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.879 fights in the stands, and then there was debris coming 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:06.119 in from there everywhere, hit some people. Then they were 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.359 on the dugout ripping the Oakland Raider banners. I mean, 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:12.280 it was just gass. And then then I might have 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.320 I might have started yelling at some of the fans 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.560 below us, and then they had and then then I 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:20.479 walked out in the Joe handled them. And apparently they 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.159 closed the field after that and didn't let any of 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.080 the media people back out to do their on field 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:26.800 hits or anything. It was none of that. It was 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.920 stuck flying water balls flying from the top deck. The 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:32.960 best was so I leaned over and these people are 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.040 yelling at us, you know, cut and I sat there 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.520 for a moment. I'm like, I can just sit here 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.240 and just walk away, or I can engage. I decided 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.600 to engage. How did that? Don't do that? It was great, 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.560 it was perfect. That is a dump by the way 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:57.560 up dump dump. Because I well, I didn't run away. 0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:59.440 I just I got tired of dealing with them and 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:01.040 then I had to hang out the window and get 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.040 the antennas were they were they waiting to get hit 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.400 with the bottom Say that you scared him? I scared. 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.600 I told him, I said, you want some, come get some? 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.080 You know, did you did you guys stay in Oakland? No, 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:15.160 we stayed. We stayed at a beautiful hotel four seasons. 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:20.600 I believe it was great out in paulo Ato. Okay, right, Joe, 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.960 is that where we were correct? That's correct. I wasn't there. 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.440 It was nice, too, wasn't it nice? You weren't even there. 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:31.240 I wasn't there. But back in the day, Tony, back 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.240 in the day, you guys stayed in downtown Oakland because 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:37.280 we stayed at that hotel. I remember that. Yeah, I don't. 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.359 I'm not gonna I'll say this. The ride was a 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.320 little bit long, and we hit traffic because they were 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:46.440 tailgating early. I mean we left the hotel at eight thirty. It's, 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.160 you know, forty five minute ride. And we were hitting. 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.920 We's got stuck in traffic. It was in the place 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.440 was packed. Cops had to stop cars let us in 0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.040 as bad as free. The best. You'll love this spied 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.320 So for Angie, who's still out on vacation. I'm not 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.560 sure he actually does a radio show anymore and doesn't 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.880 work very much. Right, Yeah, he's on vacations. His wife's 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:12.400 fiftieth birthday or whatever it is. She looks like she's thirty. Um. 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.159 And so he went out early to San Francisco and 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.159 was gonna stay late. So he didn't fly with us. 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.920 He didn't stay at the team He stayed in San Francisco, 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.159 and he was gonna meet us at the stadium the 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.119 day of the game, which was a mistake. He should 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.320 have ubered to our hotel, came to the team bus. 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.240 He didn't stay in the Cocoon is as long as 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.440 he stay in Coco. So he's got he's got a 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.639 parking pass wherever he has. He's gonna drive his rental 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.960 car to the stadium and then meet us in the 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.440 booth well two and a half miles out from the stadium. 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:47.119 He blows a tire on his rental car. So he 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.080 has to pull on this gas station called the rental car, says, 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.440 lest you gotta come pick this up. He has no 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.560 way to get this dame now. So he walks two 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:58.040 and a half miles through the Sea of Humanity with 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:05.200 his Jaguar logold through scenic Oakland and he's like he said, 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.960 he says, I might die. He was afraid for his life. 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.080 But he said credit to that. And this was they 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.920 were obviously still sober. Uh, they were all in the 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:15.719 right mind still. And he said the Oakland fans were 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.680 great going in and uh, he should have covered his 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.720 logo up. I mean, that's a smart thing to do. 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.359 I would have I would have bought a Raider's t shirt. Yeah, 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:31.200 you're smarter than that, Maybe not all of you, Pete J. P. Tony. 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.640 With two and a half hours to game time, wouldn't 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:40.000 you just change the tire? Well, yes we would. Frank's 0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:45.720 not get his hands his hands dirty. Come on, kind Yeah, 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.040 it would take you twenty minutes. It would take you 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.040 less time to change the time. 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We'll go to 0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.920 dot conference, grow down the field. Breath. I see the 0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.600 same thing of practice, all right, that's the same thing. 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.680 We gotta tweeting like practice birth. What happens just like 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.880 that every time? Every time. I'm telling you, boy, hey, 0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.720 with the dudes in this locker room, ain't no game over, 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:14.680 ain't no season over. So what he says, lets nobody 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:20.880 want to do it with a total team, total team. Ember, 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.640 that's off to you all. Hey, Jacks on three, Jacks 0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:28.840 on me? What three? Oh yeah, that's aw. The celebration 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.600 after the Jacks win in Oakland yesterday looking back Jaguars 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.760 happy Hour persented by Jeth Homelos like you want to 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:39.040 run through brick law. Good for them, that's great. Happy listen. 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.400 They work hard. I mean it has been pretty this year, 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.280 especially the last five weeks, but it came out. Don't 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.440 give him a chance to win out in Oakland? Um, 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.600 I think we had you know, Johnny Oda is the 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.720 nine experts that pick on Twitter. I think only one 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.600 of us picked, uh, the Jags to win. I'm gonna 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:02.800 say who it was me, Um, you did not, Yes, 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.280 I did go back and look at it. Well, that's 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.880 get your Pollyannis you're talking about. I thought I felt 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.080 the energy. I knew I was reading cards. I felt 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.959 the energy from this team and the Raiders stick. By 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.160 the way, you know, the only team was lost by 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.880 more points per game in the last three games in 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:26.120 the Jags Raiders Raiders. Well the Jaguars thing too, when 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.560 they were playing on the West Coast. I dont think 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.040 they'd win. Give him credit. That was that was I 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.240 didn't see that one coming. They played hard the first 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.680 half of this game at halftime. The statistics at half 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.240 are just just ugly. Seventeen to two was the first 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.120 down total in favor of Oakland in the first half. 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.560 UM and then, of course the time of possession twenty 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.920 one minutes. The Raiders held the ball in the first half. 0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.120 The Jacks had nothing going on offense, they didn't have 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.800 a lot going on defense. Earlier. They switched it around 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.880 at halftime. Well no, actually they switched around after the 0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:02.040 first drive. In this sense on defense, they were still 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.400 giving up three yards between the twenties. But they played 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.160 it was like the old ben but don't break defense, 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.400 and they got stingy in the red zone as they 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.240 got down. They got some negative plays even after drives 0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.440 that had you know, five, six, seven plays. Then you 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.680 get a sack, force a penalty, and next thing you know, 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.040 it's third and twenty. And so they did some They 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.680 did some things on defense after that first drive. When 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.040 they came, they hustled, they made plays and kept on 0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.600 fighting and they made the Oakland Raiders earn everything. They 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.480 didn't give him anything easy. And because of that, the 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.200 Oakland Raiders aren't very good football team and they couldn't 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:39.000 do it. And I thought so defensively after that first drive, 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.600 I thought, you know, it wasn't great. Second half was 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.319 very good. The rest of the first half. The numbers 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.640 weren't great, but they did want to take to keep 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.799 their team in the ball game by forcing field goals 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.759 after the opening touchdown, and that's all you can do. 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.600 And they get and they get. Take Derek Carr for 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.239 stupidity at the end of the game, which which one 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.799 when he left time on the clock clock. Well it's 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.880 not it's not his fault that the officials blew the 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.239 call when he slid and he's in bounds. Pete, we 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.919 had to play a game after that throwing the ball, Okay, 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:14.040 with the time out, let's go through the end of 0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:15.880 the game. And so I actually don't put this on 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:17.799 Derek car I put it on John Gruden, number one, 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.759 he's the coach. They start the four minute drive with 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.600 about five minutes left. They were snapping the ball with 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.440 ten thirteen seconds left in the play clock. A lot 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.120 of times, Yeah, I didn't understand that at all, which 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.160 is so like, if you just to give everyone to 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.040 go to context, if you have six plays in that drive, 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:36.440 which I think they had more than that, let's just 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.880 say it's six. That's a oh, that's over a minute 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.239 of time that you kept on the clock that should 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:46.040 have been gone, but they did not. That adds up. 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:51.279 So then they get down and they were second to 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.880 nine to twenty left in the in the game, in 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.080 the in the game, at twenty two something like that, 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.759 they were in a zone read We're works perfectly. I 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.520 think I think they got away with a little bit 0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:07.120 hold on Cleitro, but forget that. Derrick Carter is what 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.800 you're supposed to do. He initiates the slide inbounds, his 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.839 knee is down a yard before the out of bounds marker. 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:21.360 For whatever reason, the officials blew it, and they stopped 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.960 the clock with two oh five instead of letting it 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.200 run down to the two minute warning. So now it's 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.800 first and ten with two oh five. That's a forty 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:39.040 second mistake, right because of the and the fact that 0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.680 that's not a reviewable play is a mistake. The officials 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.760 blew it, and the fact that no one like Gruden 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.080 said something but I'm like that should be that costs 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.080 him the game. The game is probably over if the 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:54.560 official just plays by the rules, because guess what, if 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.600 he was going for a first down, he initiated the 0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.839 slide before the first down sticks wherever his knee hit, 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:04.000 he'd be down, not where he starts to slide, or 0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.080 if you give yourself up in any way, shape or form, 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.920 anywhere you're down. Yeah, he's down, And who cares if 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.680 he split out of bounds, that doesn't matter. You begin 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.160 the slide. So they blew it, so then it's for now. 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.759 This is where Gruden, in my opinion, it started not 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.759 telling their car to snap the ball with like two 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.320 seconds in the play cock. Now this is where it 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.800 gets off the off the rails. They're so mad that 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.640 the official blew this. They're not paying attention to the 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:33.560 play cock. They're not organized. Somebody on the sidelines in 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.279 the booth has to be saying, coach, call time out. 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.680 We can't take appealvely here because first and fifteen and 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.239 a four minute offense is very different than first and ten, 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.360 So they should have called the time out. They did not. 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.520 Then he throws a challenge flag. Here comes another mistake 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.600 by the officials. He throws a challenge flag on a 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.000 play that is not challengeable and by rule Pete correct 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.759 me if I'm wrong, you're supposed to lose a time 0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.439 out at that point. Correct the officials and take away 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.400 the time out from him. Blew that part. Now it's 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.360 first and fifteen two oh five. What do you do 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:08.920 on first and fifteen and two or five when the 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:10.920 clock is in the stop of the two more two 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.399 minute warning. No matter what you throw, you throw the ball. 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.600 I said it on the broadcast. Throw the ball here. 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.560 You need to get back ahead of the change where 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.680 you should be on still a two minute warning anywhere, 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.719 two minute warning anyways, it's not it's doesn't matter. They 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.759 should have run a naked bootleg. So the run get 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.600 the Jags going easy completion, maybe pick up five, six, 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.080 seven yards or whatever. They don't. They hand it off. 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.200 Game two, now we get to the two minute warning, 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:42.120 handed off again, they get three two or three Jags 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.680 used the last time out. Now Here it comes the 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.040 next mistake, in my opinion, you're in field goal range, 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.680 it's third and eleven. What do you do? You run 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.319 the ball, because right now, your percentage of picking up 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.600 third and eleven in any situation, any part of the 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.880 game is not high. Well, even if you complete that 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:05.399 past he's not yet okay exactly, but you don't even 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:08.279 take a chance of anything bad happening by throwing the ball. 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.160 Because a drop stops the clock. You run it, You 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:15.799 run another forty seconds off the clock. Then you call 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.920 time out, you kick a field goal, even if you 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:24.040 miss it. The Jaguars get back with fifty five two 0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:28.080 minute oh five right in those right right. If they 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.000 would have done that, the game would have gone to 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:34.320 overtime because the Jags would have the ball. If you 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.600 if you back, if you go what happened where they 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.879 were with five seconds left or forty five seconds left 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.240 in the game, because that's what they cost them forty 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.239 seconds by not running the ball instead of throwing it 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.359 that forty seconds they were about the thirty it would 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.080 have been a forty eight yard field gore so right, 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:51.960 which would have been a long field goal to tie 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:58.040 the game. And that's all coaching. Now go back to 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.560 the first half with John Gruden. This I know and 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.200 I like John. He makes ten million dollars years, so 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.520 I have no problem criticizing when you're the highest spade 0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.960 coach and you're supposed to be, like, be really good. 0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.759 At this end of the first half, they have two 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.680 time outs. They get the ball on the r twenty 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:18.439 a minute eleven left, seven they run a draw, get nine. 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:20.920 Don't call time out. I'm okay with that because you're 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.080 backed up. Let's see if we can get a call 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:27.920 a screen get thirty. What do you do after a 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.320 thirty yard play with under a minute left when you 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.520 have two time outs? You call time out? Are you're 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:38.400 talking about it? Have the screen passed the rich down 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.200 seven seconds to one seconds? They wasted twenty five seconds 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.280 five seconds? Call time out. Now it's fifty five seconds. 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.520 You're on their side of the fields. You have one 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:57.480 time out, perfect perfect. Instead, you know what they did 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.320 there through an incomplete passed. Now they have two amount 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.200 to seconds left, seconds and they never used one of them. 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.400 He went to the locker room with the pocket in 0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.520 his with the time out of his pocket. Terrible, terrible 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.719 clock manage. They were on. They had first and go 0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.360 on the eight. They should have three shots at the 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:18.320 end zone. They only had one. Right. Situational coaching in 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.520 the NFL is awful, tony, and you're right. The announcers 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.680 half the time don't even mention it. Half that stuff 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.520 like how do you I'll give you one, I'll give 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.279 you one at the end that you guys were at, 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.279 your game was going on. At the end of the 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:35.240 forty Niners game against Atlanta, the Falcons actually scored touchdown. 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.960 They review it, they overturn it, which probably should have 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.120 been overturned. They had one that had three I think 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:44.160 it was two seconds left. They score, Julio Jones goes 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.480 across the line, They review it, call it a touchdown. 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:51.560 The Falcons send out there two point team, take a 0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:55.960 snap and take a knee. The announcers didn't say one 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:57.960 where one of them said, well, they must want to 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.880 try and use the time, then they want the ball 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:06.680 block for a two point conversion. Yes, one word about it. 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:08.839 They just sat there. They couldn't figure out what they 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.200 were doing. Well, listen, if you want to hear these 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:15.600 things you're a Jaguar fan, turn your TV off and 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.960 turn on our radio. Because we talked about every one 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:23.279 of these things during the entire game. So if you 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.759 want to know this stuff, listen to us, because that's 0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.400 what we talked about. And one thing about Minshew and 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:33.000 that video you guys just showed that looks like it's 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:37.839 his team. No, I think that's pretty clear by now. Yeah, 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.080 you saw a passing shot of Nick Foles like kind 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.760 of in the background. But the guy they were raillying 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.160 around with Minshew, Well, people you also know this. I mean, 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.400 come on, I agree with you, by the way, but 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.640 when you win, players are out of their minds. I mean, 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.880 everything's right in the world. Everyone's good, and everyone's your 0:42:54.920 --> 0:43:00.200 favor they're all better, they're all best friends. And then 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.399 when you're losing, everyone hates each other. Just the way 0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.120 the world works. But he looked like he took control 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.680 that for a young kid. He looked like that was 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.000 his huddle. So when we come back, because I know 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.200 we gotta go to break here. When we come back, 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.640 I want to go through minshew, the good, the bad, 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.000 the ugly, because now everyone's back on the train and saying, oh, 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.440 can he be the guy? Let's go through some numbers. 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:24.080 Let's do you like me producing that? Do you like that? 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.800 Just sit here? Job? You want me to lead the 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:30.839 show too? I do not? Okay? You want me start 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:35.640 reading because reading one? No no, no, no no, just 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.719 give it to me to try. Which one put here? 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.040 You want me to read? There's not one? Never mind? 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.719 I won't read then. 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Um. 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.200 You know these guys, there's nobody I'd rather do it with. 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:39.800 Non Gardner meant show Jaguars quarterback so win in Oakland 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.600 yesterday in the final Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.680 by Jet Home Loans, j P Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:54.359 Prisco and per Tony's request, I guess order my producing proclamation. Yes, 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.200 we're gonna get the good, bad, and the ugly from 0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:03.520 Gardnerment shows performance. Great movie, by the way, let's just 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:08.239 let this breathe a little bit here. Good movie, all right, 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.200 that's the best part right there, made the whole thing. 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.399 So we're gonna say, you know, it's the good, the bad, 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:17.160 the ugly. It's a famous Clinton Eastwood spaghetti Western Spain. 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.680 But they called him spaghetti Western. I have no idea why, 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:26.359 but it's yeah, but they weren't. That one wasn't Joe, 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.400 it was in Spain. Go ahead, can you just what 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.719 was the good? Okay? No, we're going good last, because 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.319 I like to say the best. It's not the order, 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.239 but it's your production. I don't care, but the good, bad, whatever, 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:38.680 Just just do something. Well. The big question is you 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.799 know what everyone wants to talk about, and what you're 0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:44.160 trying to figure out for next year is like what 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:47.520 do you do at the quarterback position? Like Nick Foles 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.400 is gonna be here unless the crazy happens because you 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:51.920 own them all this money. You're gonna pay for him 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.720 one way or another, and you have this young quarterback 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.320 and Gardner minsh. You that if you looked at it 0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:58.399 and I told you at the beginning of the year 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.640 your six round quarterbacks gonna be five and five in 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:04.120 the ten starts that he has, you'd be like, huh, 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:11.000 not bad so, But where do you go from here? 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:12.640 I mean, because you're gonna have high draft picks and 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.880 everything else, and really it's gonna be the next number. 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.440 It's you look at this week. In the last two 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:23.200 weeks after the performance, everyone has gone crazy, said mitche Mane. 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.360 He is back the magic back because he brought this 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:27.920 team to a win. But I think you have to 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.160 look at the entire picture when you're making a decision, 0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:37.000 you're really evaluating Gardner minshew. It was ugly to start 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:41.640 the game. I mean they had no rhythm. He was 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:49.439 inaccurate throwing the ball. He was, would you say, Pete jumpy, moving, 0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.400 moving in the pocket more than he needed to. He 0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:55.200 did have a drop, but they had nothing going at all. 0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:59.000 I think there's you know, and there's questions. You know, 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:01.160 part of the question. Some of the questions I think 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:04.799 people have is his I don't think it's a big 0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:06.960 deal right now because he's young. Is his ability to 0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:08.880 see things and everything else. He'll get that. He's a 0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:13.600 smart guy. Arm strength is a question. Candy. Drive the 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:15.279 ball down the field. That's something they have not done 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:16.880 very well. He did have the deep paths the on 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:19.439 the out and up to call the corner fell down. 0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.279 But his arm did not look great early. He did 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.640 not look accurate. It didn't look like a lot of 0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:27.560 zip in the ball. The ball was sailing on him. 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.800 It was ugly. The bad was he was leading an offense. 0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:32.239 It still could not get the end zone. He has 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.600 not gotten the end zone very much in the last 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:39.320 three games. He started Houston in London last week against 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:43.560 whoever we play I can't remember now, Chargers, the Chargers, 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:47.320 and this week to start the first half, two first downs, 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.480 barely seventy yards of offense under ten minutes of the 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:55.480 time of possession, and you honestly wondered, as we're saying, 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:57.520 we looked at each other in the boot like will 0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.399 we ever see the end zone again? I mean, that's 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:05.200 how bad it felt. But this is the good. This 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:07.320 is what I love about this kid, and this is 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:11.439 why there's a chance that he could be the guy. 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:13.759 He's got to clean up stuff. I think he needs 0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:15.719 to work on, you know, keep on getting his arm 0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:20.120 stronger and stronger. He'll improve on seeing things. But the 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:24.200 stuff he has that you can't teach. He has a 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:27.680 presence about him. He's a natural leader. He has moxie, 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:32.759 he has grit, and the kid never flinches. I mean, 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.319 everything was going against him, nothing was going their way, 0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:38.640 and he kept on fire. He started the game three. 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:47.200 That's not good, that awful, fortunate the ball didn't get 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:52.520 bad and picked high throws on slants, poor throws. The 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.560 next eight team passes JP after the first ten. You 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:59.920 know what, he was fourteen for eight team two touched 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.520 sounds and lead this team and made some big time 0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.680 throws at the end of the game. Now they weren't 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:08.800 still he drove one down the field on a comeback 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:14.560 the uh. The two touchdowns were not deep throws. They 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:19.680 were beautiful, on time, precision slant patterns. But the most 0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:23.240 impressive thing to me about this kid is his toughness, 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.040 both physically and mentally to hang in there and to 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:28.840 keep on playing until the game's over. A lot of 0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:32.840 guys don't have that. But you cannot look at this 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:38.000 performance and say Mania is back and he's definitely the guy. 0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.560 That's the way, Pete. That's why I said, the good, 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:44.439 the bad, the ugly. I agree with you. There's there's 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.560 there's good. Stuff got to be better than that. It 0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:49.759 was great for Spurts, it was very good. It was 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:53.040 great when it had to be Um and he's decisive 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:54.800 and he makes good decisions when it has to be. 0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.520 But at other times it was awful. And that's why 0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.120 I can't have that. That's why, Pete, that's why I said, 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:02.839 when I thought about it was a good, the bad, ugly, 0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:04.640 there was good, there was bad, and there was some 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.600 flat ugly stuff. And you're right, you need more you got. 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.680 These last two games are very important for them. I 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:14.239 think the off season is important. I think unless one 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.680 of these quarterbacks falls to you wherever you pick, you're 0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:19.160 probably going into training camp with Minshew and folds your 0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:22.080 guys to compete for the starting job. And it's too 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:25.160 early to make any proclamation that he's the guy. And 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:27.600 for everyone who's so excited what happened at the end, 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:31.280 yes I'm excited too, but you can't let that cloud 0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:34.560 the entire picture. And that's what Pete saying. It's it's 0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.800 a big picture. Thing. And let's not forget that's a 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.600 bad Oakland team and a bad Oakland defense alright, and 0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.080 Atlanta is a bad defense for most of this year too, 0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:48.840 So we'll see. I just think there's gotta be the 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:52.399 next two games to me, are important for him. He's 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:56.359 got to show better early in games and and get 0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.799 going and then then you know what I mean, it's 0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.120 not just about the end of the game. That magic 0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:02.719 is great and all, but it's got to be more. 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.160 We gotta get to the point where you're not happy 0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.720 being forced to need the magic at the end of games. 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:11.080 You hear that music, Pete, that means shut up you. 0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:14.520 You just babbled for twenty minutes straight through that segment. 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.279 This segment is only six minutes, but good try. Whatever 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:23.000 it was, you babbled the whole damn time. 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You know he's 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.600 never lost the Raiders. He is undefeated seven and oh now, yes, 0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:23.720 welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour the second hour underweight j 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:26.640 P shattered Tony was Sully Pete Presco glad you're along 0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.640 with us. Plenty to get to today. We've touched on 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:31.960 the Jaguars win. Of course, they snapped a five game 0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:35.560 losing skid with the sixteen win over the Oakland Raiders 0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:37.800 meansh you magic at the end to get it done. 0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:41.800 The Jags defense played well. Can they pull a couple 0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:43.840 more rabbits out of their hat the rest of the way. 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:48.040 We'll find out today though. This afternoon, the NFL Players 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:51.880 Association throwing an announcement out there that they had one 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:55.560 a grievance over the Jaguars finding players for missing offseason 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:59.360 rehab and the players thought they It was announced later 0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:03.920 correct for seven dred thousand dollars in fines have been rescinded. 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:07.080 It now for Dante Fowler and a couple of key 0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:11.680 quotes in there, I'm discussing that of the grievances filed 0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:13.960 in the league in the last two years have been 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:18.560 against the Jaguars and basically warning membership of the Players 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:22.640 Association UM to consider this when you have a chance 0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:24.560 to select your next club. Do we want to dive 0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:26.880 into this again? Are we just touch on it briefly? 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.720 When you get when you get fined, it comes out 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:34.120 of your paycheck right away and then you have to 0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:37.960 file the grievance to get it back. Yes, so basically 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:41.240 that's a hell of a Christmas present. Dante Faller just 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.200 got a lot of money. Man. So I was only 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:52.400 fined twice and uh so, yeah, but before so I 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:54.600 got fined, I probably shouldn't could have filed a greevance 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:56.479 against Tom for this one I got fined. It wasn't 0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.840 even a rule and he made it up after because 0:59:59.880 --> 1:00:04.000 he didn't like something I got fine for. Uh three times. 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:08.240 I got fined for leaving the pregame meal early, not 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:12.440 spending enough time with my teammates. Remember the story which 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:16.400 it wasn't even really that's really stupid. What was the fine? 1:00:16.440 --> 1:00:17.960 How much was it? I think it was like back 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:21.280 then I was a rookie. It was like toft was 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:27.360 a small fine. Um. I remember it was me Novak 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:31.000 and Chung and we went down to his office to 1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:34.520 like complain about it, and he just said he was 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.880 unwavering that we were getting fine. I was late for 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:41.160 one team meeting. I was actually here sitting in the 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:43.240 locker room. And it was before the digital clocks, so 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:47.320 everything was, you know, five minutes early digital clock. Back 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:49.680 then we had the just like the manual clock, so 1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:54.160 every clock was different in the building. And so I 1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:57.280 showed up it was I was like four minutes early, 1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:00.240 me and Clyde Simmons, and the door was locked and 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:03.640 the team media started, so, um, all right, so you 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:06.360 deserve that one. Yeah, you were like, how do you 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:08.680 figure I was still early? It was it was eight 1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:14.720 o'clock meeting. I was there at eight at seven fifty six. Anyways, fine. Uh. 1:01:14.840 --> 1:01:17.240 And then um, I got fined by the NFL for 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:22.400 a fight against the Ravens, and I actually appealed that one. 1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:27.000 I peeled the fine I got from the league and 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:30.240 I lost. So they never find you for punching me 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:32.880 in the locker room, then you gotta pay me? No, 1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:37.240 they actually I got a bonus for punching you. Tom said, 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:40.280 great job, or maybe a hundred thousand dollar bonus for 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:47.320 punching Pete. So Pete, when I mean I kind of 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:50.680 ranted it at the beginning of the show about my thoughts, uh, 1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:52.040 and I think you were here for part of it 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:53.720 when we lost you for a little bit. What's your 1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:55.880 thoughts on this whole? This is not a good look. 1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:57.840 This is not a good look for the team. And 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:00.080 again I told you what I said. I think just 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:03.240 go straight to the top, not not shod Khan or 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:07.680 Tony Khan. Tom Coughlin, this is all about him, is 1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:09.600 it just? Is it just Tom? Is it Tom and 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:13.560 Dave or just Tom? It's Tom? It's Tom. Tom has 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:20.560 hated anything that goes against conventional coach type of mentality 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:24.760 since I've known him. Any little thing that strays away 1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:28.480 from what he thinks should be the right way, We'll 1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:31.920 drive him nuts. Jalen Ramsey not showing up for voluntary 1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:34.840 workouts drove him crazy. I know it did. It used 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.120 to drive him crazy. Do you remember when Logoman was 1:02:37.200 --> 1:02:39.040 part of the problem when he didn't show up for 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:44.120 voluntary mini voluntary training camp. In Steven's point, so let 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:46.320 me tell that story, because could you imagine if that 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:49.880 happened to day? What the what the union do. So 1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:54.200 the Panthers and the Jaguars were allowed to come to 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:56.280 camp like ten days early because we played in the 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:58.560 Hall of Fame Hall of Fame game. Yes, it was. 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:00.400 It was the only six I think. No, no, no, 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:03.920 it was supposed to be like July t that was 1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:07.560 the that was like the official reporting date. So Tom, Yeah, 1:03:08.120 --> 1:03:11.400 at the end of O t A s said, we 1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:15.200 are starting camp July. So the July eleventh was supposed 1:03:15.200 --> 1:03:20.080 to be the day We're starting camp July six eight. 1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:23.200 It was four it was it was four days early 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:29.120 whatever it was. And and it's like Logs, like, you 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:32.000 can't do that, like the like, this is the date 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:34.040 we have to be there. He says, no, we are 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:38.600 starting camp four days earlier. And so I was rookie. 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:40.800 I didn't know any better. I'm like, okay. So, like 1:03:41.080 --> 1:03:45.880 everyone showed up except for three guys Logan Shmangi and 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:52.200 Calvin Pritchard didn't show better. Maybe I said, no, we're 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:55.000 not showing up when we don't have to be there volunteering. 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:57.640 It was already a six week camp as it was. 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:01.000 And uh, and that was the end of it. Though 1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:04.160 I tried to find him. If I'm not mistaken. He 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:06.480 tried to find him. Yeah, but he didn't. But that 1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:09.200 was the end of it. If you if if a 1:04:09.280 --> 1:04:12.280 team tried to do that right now, the Morris Smith 1:04:12.360 --> 1:04:16.880 would be like like in the city saying no, do 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:21.400 not show up. But nothing like we all showed up. 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:25.280 We practiced the extra four days two days, and if 1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:30.560 I remember correctly, Berline actually played in that Tahoe golf 1:04:30.680 --> 1:04:34.600 tournament and had to race to get there for the 1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:40.040 first day of the voluntary slash mandatory trading came that 1:04:40.280 --> 1:04:42.200 it was crazy. I didn't know any better. I was 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:45.160 a rookie. I'm like, okay, I guess that's what you do. 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:48.720 And then like about three weeks later, you thought everybody 1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:50.800 got to fly on Wayne Weaver's private jet when they 1:04:50.840 --> 1:05:00.760 got hurt. No, I knew that was just me. So Pete, 1:05:00.760 --> 1:05:01.960 I said this, and you were off the air. And 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:05.120 I'll just say it again briefly, this is like, it's 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:09.120 ridiculous to me. It's not that hard like and this 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:12.400 is like coaches in the front office, and coaches always 1:05:12.400 --> 1:05:14.720 want the players to follow all the rules, which they 1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:18.400 should be on time, show up the treatment, do the 1:05:18.480 --> 1:05:20.680 things you're supposed to do in my message to a player, 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:23.040 it's like, just follow the rules. It makes life easier 1:05:23.080 --> 1:05:26.000 for everybody. They're the boss, they're the organization. These are 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:28.200 the rules. As long as they don't violate the cb A, 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:34.280 you should do them right. But guess what, it's same 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:38.040 thing for the coaches in the front office. This is 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:41.760 the cb A that was negotiated by your owner. This 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:46.320 is the rule. Well reference I can reference back when 1:05:46.440 --> 1:05:49.160 Tom was the coach and he didn't follow the rules 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:53.040 on injuries, like and this is what drives me crazy. 1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:56.640 And I gave the example Pete. Tom had a rule 1:05:57.080 --> 1:05:59.880 that you weren't allowed to wear white socks on the road. 1:06:01.120 --> 1:06:03.880 I hated the rule. It drove me crazy. I thought 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:05.560 it was the dumbest rule ever. I told him. I 1:06:05.600 --> 1:06:08.720 thought it was dumb as not. This is ridiculous. I 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:10.360 like white sox. I want to wear white socks. What 1:06:10.400 --> 1:06:13.440 does it matter. No, it's a rule. So guess what. 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:16.360 I followed the rule because it was the rule. I 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:19.360 hated it, So why shouldn't Why should a rule that 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:25.040 he doesn't like not be followed? And that's by the way, 1:06:25.240 --> 1:06:27.440 rules are still one of his best stories ever has 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:30.439 been Loggaman told his story about the Bolow tide. Yeah, 1:06:31.320 --> 1:06:34.360 we had it in the studio last year. Actually, it's great, 1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:36.560 and I'm not and I'm not trying to pile on 1:06:37.200 --> 1:06:39.960 coach Conflin. Oh no, Look, I love Tom, but he 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:42.280 had too many nippicky things and he didn't follow the 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:45.040 rules he was supposed to follow. And that's my problem. 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:49.280 And in this case, like the rules are there for 1:06:49.360 --> 1:06:51.800 a reason, they're negotiated by both sides. Just follow them. 1:06:51.800 --> 1:06:54.800 If it's not that hard, it's really not. The injury 1:06:54.840 --> 1:06:58.120 report every week, and this was before the injury report changed. 1:06:58.240 --> 1:07:00.360 It was you had to have guys on the injury 1:07:00.400 --> 1:07:03.080 report and send it in the right way. Well, Tom 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:06.560 always fudged the injury report and I kept telling him, 1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:09.439 by the way, by the way, he wasn't the only 1:07:10.080 --> 1:07:12.760 only team, but I told him, I said, Tom, you 1:07:12.920 --> 1:07:15.680 can't do that. Put the injuries on the injury port 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:19.520 the way they are so one. I kept telling him, I, Oh, 1:07:19.600 --> 1:07:21.320 you do it again. I'm telling I'm calling the lead. 1:07:21.960 --> 1:07:24.560 So he didn't have Jimmy on the injury report. And 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:26.520 when he didn't practice that day and I waited out 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:28.600 in the parking lot and a couple of guys told 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:30.400 me Jimmy wasn't a thing, so I called the league 1:07:31.200 --> 1:07:34.400 and he went crazy. But he didn't follow rules. He 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:37.800 wanted his own rules, but didn't follow the rules. And 1:07:37.920 --> 1:07:40.320 that's where this is a problem. It's the same type 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:45.760 of situation. So there you go. So it's a bad look. 1:07:45.960 --> 1:07:48.720 But more than anything, though disturbing about this is not 1:07:48.960 --> 1:07:51.440 the money, not how he did it. It's the last 1:07:51.600 --> 1:07:54.680 line of that statement from the NFL p A. They're 1:07:54.720 --> 1:08:00.400 basically warning free agents be careful about signing with Jacksonville. 1:08:00.720 --> 1:08:04.000 That is an awful look. And I don't believe that 1:08:04.080 --> 1:08:06.720 somebody's gonna get a contract, is gonna not sign there 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:09.520 for that reason. But it's still not a good guy. 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:12.280 But be Here's this is where it becomes a competitive disadvantage. 1:08:13.280 --> 1:08:18.120 Is if you're the Jaguars and you're offering player A, 1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:25.320 you know, a million dollars a year, and the the 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:28.360 Titans are offering the same player a million dollars a year. 1:08:29.120 --> 1:08:31.320 And they look at both situations the page the saying 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:35.320 everything is the same. They might reference this and saying, well, 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:37.800 I don't want to go to Jacksonville. The PAS telling 1:08:37.880 --> 1:08:40.080 me that they don't follow the rules, and I have 1:08:40.160 --> 1:08:42.400 to do things I'm I supposed to according to the 1:08:42.439 --> 1:08:45.200 c B A I'm gonna go to Tennessee. Yeah, but 1:08:45.320 --> 1:08:50.960 you know what supersedes that most they income tax. Okay, okay, 1:08:51.040 --> 1:08:54.559 say the Miami Dolphins. In the Dolphins, now you're right 1:08:54.800 --> 1:08:57.200 to go to Miami. It's a it's a competitive disadvantage. 1:08:57.200 --> 1:08:59.080 The other thing is and and you know this, You've 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:02.400 been around teams like players know in that locker room, 1:09:03.680 --> 1:09:07.040 and especially when you're losing, like players are mad, they're angry. 1:09:07.120 --> 1:09:10.280 It makes it harder for the head coach because you're 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:12.960 managing like a bunch of stuff that shouldn't have to 1:09:13.040 --> 1:09:16.760 be managed. And it might it might make you pay 1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:21.280 more to get a guy what you had a disadvantage 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:23.439 in your cap. It's just not a good look. It's not. 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:28.280 And you know every team and it's just like in recruiting, Oh, 1:09:28.400 --> 1:09:30.600 they're gonna gonna use it because in recruiting, like they 1:09:30.640 --> 1:09:33.200 don't open up the practices to the NFL scouts, use 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:35.040 that against them. You know, it's that kind of thing. 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:40.200 M The Jaguars on the field had to rally back. 1:09:40.560 --> 1:09:43.400 They got it done. Gardnerment you with the two touchdown 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:47.080 passes in the fourth quarter to Chris Conley and the 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:49.640 defense tightened up. How about the day for Unique and 1:09:49.640 --> 1:09:52.920 Guay yesterday, by the way, five tackles, two sacks, four 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:56.439 tackles for loss, and a pass defense, and that's pretty 1:09:56.439 --> 1:09:58.559 good day at the office. Well, and he was dominant 1:09:58.600 --> 1:10:03.680 in the past rush, just dominic um all day long. 1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:06.599 Even when he didn't get sacks, he was pressuring force 1:10:06.680 --> 1:10:09.760 and early throws. He was harassing the quarterback. Very good 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:14.120 pass rush. And he did what I I've been hoping 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.759 he would do for a while. He used his speed 1:10:16.840 --> 1:10:19.840 and athletic ability in the run game where he didn't 1:10:19.880 --> 1:10:22.200 just try to to gap him and go toe to 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:25.360 toe with these bigger men. He used his athletic ability 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:28.280 get on their edge, get around them, and recover in 1:10:28.360 --> 1:10:31.280 the backfield and make plays. And that's how he has 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:33.240 to play. He is not big enough just to go 1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:36.840 toe to toe every play with big offensive tackles when 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:39.000 they're running the ball right at him. He has to 1:10:39.080 --> 1:10:41.559 use his athletic abilities. One of the most athletic defensive 1:10:41.680 --> 1:10:46.559 ends in the entire NFL use that, and he did yesterday. 1:10:48.600 --> 1:10:51.360 He was phenomenal yesterday. I mean that was like he 1:10:51.400 --> 1:10:53.280 should have looked up to the press box that said 1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:55.320 now you gotta pay me guys, because that was that 1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:59.040 type of performance as a pass rusher, he was phenomenal. 1:10:59.479 --> 1:11:02.680 Now the fact he's working against isn't very good. No, 1:11:02.840 --> 1:11:05.080 but my whole point was the passwords was there. But 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:07.439 he used his athletic abilion in the run game as well, 1:11:08.040 --> 1:11:11.080 and I don't think he's done that enough. Something about 1:11:11.120 --> 1:11:14.000 that yesterday bothers me. Why is Josh Allen only playing 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:17.280 twenty nine snaps? Well, you got beat up early. I 1:11:17.360 --> 1:11:20.400 saw that, but he came back. I would play more too. 1:11:20.479 --> 1:11:22.760 I don't know. I don't get that. That's one of 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.000 the mysteries to me, is why he doesn't play more. 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:30.760 I don't have an answer for you. We're gonna get 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:33.920 some answers from you though, in the next segment. Social 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:38.200 media questions. All right, let's do it. It's right around 1:11:38.200 --> 1:11:41.160 the corner. Let's do it. Pete's favorite. Well, I got 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:43.800 some PF grade for to throw out there too. It 1:11:43.880 --> 1:11:45.800 so nice we can get to those a little bit. 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:48.639 All right, good, All that's coming up. 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Is you know that we pried ourselves to 1:15:30.960 --> 1:15:32.840 the line to win the game. Man. I feel like 1:15:32.880 --> 1:15:35.559 we made a big impact this game. Man, We're gonna 1:15:35.600 --> 1:15:40.200 to start to be great. Josh Allen first round picked 1:15:40.280 --> 1:15:43.000 this year. He's up to ten sacks for the season 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:46.320 and Jaguars Happy hour continues. J Pete, Shadrick, Tony Boselli, 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:49.760 Pete Priscoe after a Jaguars win in Oakland twenty to 1:15:49.840 --> 1:15:52.880 sixteen the final. I guess it gonna be good. He 1:15:52.920 --> 1:15:55.559 already is good. He's gonna be really good. I think, yeah, 1:15:55.600 --> 1:15:57.360 he's a good player, and he goes to peace question. 1:15:57.400 --> 1:15:59.559 I agree with Pete. I think he's played more more 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:02.400 snaps now yesterday because the injury. I think that had 1:16:02.439 --> 1:16:04.439 something to do with it. It's a stinger, Yeah, but 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:06.519 I still think he needs more stamps. Yeah, but he 1:16:06.560 --> 1:16:08.960 only played seven. I mean a stinger would take you 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:10.599 out for ten of them. He's got to play more 1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:13.720 with that, Peter. I just said that, okay, But you 1:16:13.760 --> 1:16:16.280 said because of the stinger yesterday. I said, okay, take 1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:18.639 him up for ten and he still should be way 1:16:18.720 --> 1:16:27.560 above seven. We agree. Let's go on social. Do you 1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:29.840 think we lost again or something? Oh? No, I say 1:16:29.920 --> 1:16:31.720 we I want to get to social. I'm excited. Are 1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:35.320 you sure that'll be positive because we won social media? 1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:39.920 Question number one? Then at Jags five every game Mint 1:16:40.000 --> 1:16:42.880 she plays, which way do you lean he's a franchise 1:16:43.000 --> 1:16:48.480 quarterback or a high end backup? TBD? To be determined? 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:52.599 Is that what that stands for? Thank you? That's where 1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:55.959 I sit with it. At least yes, to be determined. 1:16:56.000 --> 1:16:59.679 But I'd lean more towards the backup than a franchise quarterback. Why. 1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:04.599 I just don't think he does the things that you does. 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:06.920 You mentioned a bunch of him, Tony. He's jumping in 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:12.200 the pocket too much, his arm isn't great, his anticipation 1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:19.760 isn't great. Is improvisational skills are fantastic? So again I 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:21.720 would disagree with that, I think his I think he 1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:27.200 anticipates at times pretty well. Um, I Pete, your favorite 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:29.559 quarterback in the draft two years ago was Josh Allen. 1:17:30.880 --> 1:17:34.240 All the things you just said, I would say Gardner 1:17:34.360 --> 1:17:36.400 mits you is better as a rookie than Josh Allen 1:17:36.479 --> 1:17:42.639 was his rookie. Probably he was an arm isn't nearly. 1:17:43.400 --> 1:17:45.639 I didn't say that. I said he is performing better 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:51.519 in the pocket, making better reads, more decisive, um better 1:17:51.560 --> 1:17:53.960 in the pocket. A lot of things that a lot 1:17:53.960 --> 1:17:57.000 of people were worried about Josh Allen, and you loved him, 1:17:57.479 --> 1:18:00.400 and he's having a very good second half of this year. 1:18:00.920 --> 1:18:02.680 We need that Buffalo team to the playoffs with a 1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:04.640 very good defense, very well coached. But he is a 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:07.760 huge part of it. My point is this is why 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:12.000 to me, it's to be determined. He is better than 1:18:12.200 --> 1:18:15.880 Josh Allen as a rookie. He is better than Sam 1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:18.240 Donald if you look at the numbers and the production 1:18:18.280 --> 1:18:21.479 and everything else. As a rookie, well, he's better than 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:25.240 Lovemar Jackson as a rookie. Lamar Jackson's uh as a 1:18:25.320 --> 1:18:27.880 rookie took a team to the playoffs that was out 1:18:27.920 --> 1:18:30.240 of the playoffs. I would disagree with you there. It 1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:33.120 wasn't good. Lamar Jackson's numbers were terrible last year. Not 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:34.760 running the ball, I mean the way he played. He 1:18:34.880 --> 1:18:37.080 led them to the playoffs. It was, but he was 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:42.880 an under under. I would take Lamar Jackson's in his 1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:46.280 own category as my point. I'm not That's all I'm saying. 1:18:47.880 --> 1:18:50.720 Let's move on next question at Terence L. Hayes has 1:18:50.760 --> 1:18:52.479 a couple in a row here. This is the first one. 1:18:52.560 --> 1:18:54.439 How can we get Josh Allen and unique and got 1:18:54.560 --> 1:18:56.800 Quay in the lineup more often? Just put him out 1:18:56.800 --> 1:18:59.240 in the field. Why not have Josh play strong side 1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:01.640 linebacker in base and then moves the defensive end on 1:19:01.720 --> 1:19:05.680 pass rushdowns players over scheme right, I would Actually, I 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:08.280 think Yan could play the big end sometimes. I think 1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:11.280 he could spell class as well. I've been impressed of 1:19:11.320 --> 1:19:16.040 how he plays the run really so. So basically that 1:19:16.160 --> 1:19:18.720 was the knock on him. I know this. That was 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:21.360 a knock they used against him when they negotiated against him. 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:24.080 So you think he's improved as a run player to 1:19:24.160 --> 1:19:26.720 the point where he's actually pretty good at are you talking? 1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:32.479 I'm talking about Alan not a Gockway. Oh and Gonway 1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:37.160 were they asked about putting on Gonckway uh strong. Yeah, No, 1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:39.360 that's why I put That's why I said, no, put 1:19:39.479 --> 1:19:42.160 Josh as a backup. I think he's vagually. I think 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:44.720 I don't want him there getting pounded all day. But 1:19:44.760 --> 1:19:46.160 I think I mean, he's a big he's twitter and 1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:49.800 seventy five pounds, dudes, big and strong. You watch him 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.240 work against tight ends. You know, he made a play 1:19:52.320 --> 1:19:55.000 yesterday on the inside zone far off the tight end, 1:19:55.160 --> 1:19:57.519 work into the C gap, down the line of scrimmage 1:19:57.520 --> 1:19:59.320 and made a tackle for a yard game. I mean 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:02.160 he is a physical guy, so I would get him 1:20:02.160 --> 1:20:03.400 on the field to a lot more. I just put 1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:05.479 him an end. I wouldn't put him a strong sideline backer. 1:20:06.840 --> 1:20:08.200 I think you can put you on a strong side 1:20:08.240 --> 1:20:10.960 linebacker before Alan. He's so much, he's so athletic and 1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:14.679 can move in space. Why can maybe the two ends, 1:20:15.920 --> 1:20:19.120 I just said, Pete, but okay, or why can't you 1:20:19.160 --> 1:20:20.920 go to a different defense where they both stand up? 1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:23.640 Go to a three four. You're not gonna You're not 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:24.880 gonna go to a three four in the middle of 1:20:24.920 --> 1:20:27.240 the season. No, not this year. I'm talking about like 1:20:27.280 --> 1:20:29.680 moving forward. Well, I mean and that all depends where 1:20:29.680 --> 1:20:32.360 the you know, who the coaches are, and who the 1:20:32.400 --> 1:20:34.960 front office is and kind of what they do personnel wise, 1:20:35.040 --> 1:20:37.320 and the big people inside. You have to change your 1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:40.920 big people inside. So I mean, I don't know, that's 1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:44.160 a that's a much longer term question that you're not 1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:47.680 gonna answer four three three four anymore anyways, because your 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:50.519 nickel sev at a time. So but somehow, some way, 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:53.120 you gotta figure out a way to get Josh Allen 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:58.040 on the field. Fifty five of the seventies something snaps. 1:20:58.080 --> 1:20:59.760 He has to be on the field, and he hasn't been. 1:21:01.560 --> 1:21:04.160 What happened in the days when defense events will play 1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:06.200 every snap? I remember, I remember I played Bruce Smith 1:21:07.200 --> 1:21:08.760 the first couple of years I played him. He played 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:12.920 every snap. Michael McCrary every snap, Derrick Thomas every snap. 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:17.400 And and you know, now these coaches are so enamored 1:21:17.439 --> 1:21:19.559 with having guys fresh at the end of the game 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:23.240 that they take their their guys out in key situations 1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:25.479 because it's rotation time. And then you have a team 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:27.360 drive it down the field and go up by four 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:30.080 team which I never quite got or you got a chance, 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:32.559 you just scored, you got a chance to get him 1:21:32.600 --> 1:21:34.120 three and out, get the ball back and go up 1:21:34.160 --> 1:21:35.880 four team, and then all of a sudden, you got 1:21:35.920 --> 1:21:37.920 your backups in there. They drive to mid you know, 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:40.840 the thirty five or four yard line, and then he go, okay, 1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:43.040 get them back in there. Now they're rested, and by 1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:45.080 that time they go in and scored points a field 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:46.880 goal or touchdown. I never get it. I don't get 1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:50.240 like Alfred Williams when he was three years a row 1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:53.320 ten sack plus guy every down, simmon, right, So I 1:21:53.360 --> 1:21:57.400 played him every down. I mean it was just it 1:21:57.720 --> 1:21:59.760 was different. I mean, you got the top, you got 1:21:59.880 --> 1:22:04.479 the basketball every down. Like baseball now with the pitchers 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:08.120 who starting pitchers don't pitch complete games anymore. They get out, 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:11.960 they get yanked because analytics say they need to. Yeah, 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:14.720 I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just interesting. No, I'm 1:22:14.760 --> 1:22:17.519 with you, Tony. I think sometimes they get too caught 1:22:17.640 --> 1:22:20.480 up in you've played this many snaps. No, Clay's Campbell's 1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:22.800 played too many snaps this year. Well, he's an older player. 1:22:22.840 --> 1:22:26.080 I'm talking about young guys. It goes both ways. Yes, 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:29.200 you can. Let's get to another one from Terence L. 1:22:29.240 --> 1:22:30.960 Hayes he had a couple of good ones in a 1:22:31.040 --> 1:22:33.080 row here this one. Should we get a look at 1:22:33.120 --> 1:22:36.400 Will Richardson at left tackle in the final two games. 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:39.360 We know what Cam Robinson is and what his ceiling is. 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:42.920 We must figure out that premium position A s A 1:22:43.080 --> 1:22:48.760 p Uh. What do you think of Cam's game yesterday? 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:52.599 Poor in the first poor in the first half, better 1:22:52.680 --> 1:22:57.760 in the second half. Half. Um, he's not good, right. 1:22:57.800 --> 1:23:00.160 I don't think Will Richardson should be playing guard A J. 1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:02.120 Cannes playing better than him a guard. I'm not sure 1:23:02.120 --> 1:23:05.040 why they're still doing the rotation. He struggles. He only 1:23:05.080 --> 1:23:08.400 played seven STAPs and he struggled those seven stamps. Um 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:13.400 a couple of pass rushes, one in particular. Uh. I 1:23:13.479 --> 1:23:15.360 thought Will did pretty good the first two weeks at 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:18.599 left tackle. And you know he gave up this sact 1:23:18.600 --> 1:23:21.479 to Whitney Merciless not the first person to do that 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:25.160 on the road. That's a tough matchup. Uh. I'm not 1:23:25.240 --> 1:23:28.080 sure I'd do it the last two games though. But 1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:31.360 if I'd go into camp and it's an open competition 1:23:31.400 --> 1:23:35.080 for left tackle, and I would even I would even 1:23:35.120 --> 1:23:37.000 be open to drafting a left tackle because it's a 1:23:37.080 --> 1:23:40.120 deep it's a deep draft, they will take a left tack. 1:23:40.160 --> 1:23:42.519 I think they'll take a left tackle. It all depends 1:23:42.560 --> 1:23:47.000 who was picking. They should be Robinson the Guard, I 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:52.960 would agree. Next question from at carpet if future, Um, 1:23:53.200 --> 1:23:55.959 if you buy into the idea of an offseason quarterback 1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:59.479 competition between Foals and Minshew, what else can you learn 1:23:59.479 --> 1:24:03.280 about so that hasn't already been demonstrated this season? Well, 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:07.280 you know, players do improve year over year. Some improved, 1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:09.479 some don't, some get worse. So that's why you have 1:24:09.520 --> 1:24:12.720 a competition going into the season. That's pretty bit much 1:24:12.960 --> 1:24:16.639 answers the question. Well, again, you don't know what system 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:18.479 they're going to be playing in next You don't know 1:24:18.520 --> 1:24:20.599 a lot of things. But guys get better, I mean, 1:24:20.720 --> 1:24:22.880 especially rookies. The biggest jump is from year one to 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:26.040 year two when we're talking about Lamar Jackson. Before he 1:24:26.040 --> 1:24:27.960 couldn't operate out of the pocket at all. Last year 1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:30.920 he's an effective out of the pocket. Now I'm saying 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:33.160 he's the best, but he's effectively. Does the next two 1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:36.800 games not impact You're just you're thinking on Minshew in 1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:40.760 any way, shape or form. Then I think everything has 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:43.000 an impact. Pet I think everything you see everything he 1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:45.720 does impacts you know how you view going in I 1:24:45.760 --> 1:24:48.080 mean human nature. You see things you like, this, like 1:24:48.200 --> 1:24:51.200 and everything else are gonna impact where they start in 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:55.080 your mind going into training camp. I wonder how what 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:59.920 Mike McCarthy thinks about Minshew and Falls. I don't know. 1:25:00.160 --> 1:25:02.559 Mike McCarthy's a very good coach, very good coach. He's 1:25:02.560 --> 1:25:04.559 gonna be a head coach somewhere next year. And uh, 1:25:04.600 --> 1:25:06.200 I think I thought he did a great job in 1:25:06.479 --> 1:25:09.599 Green Bay. Got a little bit sideways at the end. 1:25:10.080 --> 1:25:12.720 There's a lot more to that story. Um. I'm sure 1:25:12.720 --> 1:25:14.880 they talked about in Green Bay and Pete knows it. 1:25:15.600 --> 1:25:17.639 But I think Mike McCarthy's the heck of a coach. 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:20.080 I think he'd be a good choice in Jackson if 1:25:20.120 --> 1:25:24.559 they do make a change, which they well. Next question 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:27.599 at Joe Underscore Morgan. I don't think this is Joe 1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:30.680 Morgan from the Cincinnati Reds, but Tony it might be. 1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:34.240 As we talked about earlier, what's your take on the 1:25:34.360 --> 1:25:36.680 n f l p A findings against the Jaguars and 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:39.320 what does this mean for coughlin status with the team? 1:25:39.400 --> 1:25:42.360 I already answered the first, Um, how about the second 1:25:42.400 --> 1:25:44.880 part a thousand times in the show already feels like, 1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:48.679 what does it what does it mean for Coughlin's status. 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:53.200 I don't know. It's a it's a really good question, 1:25:53.320 --> 1:25:58.200 it's a fair question, and I'm not sure. UM. I 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:00.760 think this whole thing is in the air right now. 1:26:01.400 --> 1:26:03.559 And we talked about at the top where there's reports 1:26:03.600 --> 1:26:07.120 out there from Chris Mortenson. They named Tom and Doug 1:26:07.240 --> 1:26:09.920 is possibly not being here, Tom walking away, Doug being fired, 1:26:10.280 --> 1:26:14.720 nothing said about Dave. I think my guess is that 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:19.400 it will start with kind of Tom that shot evaluates, 1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:23.720 that's the individual reports directly to the owner. UM will 1:26:23.760 --> 1:26:26.960 evaluate what, you know, where he sits and what he's 1:26:27.000 --> 1:26:29.080 done and how this thing's operated under him. I think 1:26:29.120 --> 1:26:31.280 Tom's also I think Chris Morton is probably right in 1:26:31.360 --> 1:26:34.679 the sense that he's gonna evaluate seventy three years old, 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:37.720 you know, how much longer does he want to do this? 1:26:37.800 --> 1:26:39.680 So I think there's gonna be some personal reflection by 1:26:39.720 --> 1:26:42.200 Tom as well, and how that goes is going to 1:26:42.280 --> 1:26:44.559 determine a lot of the rest, because I don't think 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:49.559 anything happens with Dave or Doug until it is sorted 1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:53.080 out what happens with Tom, and I don't know what 1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:57.479 will happen um, but I think that's just the way 1:26:57.560 --> 1:27:00.479 the organization is set up right now, how Shot has 1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:04.679 set it up. We're all of football reports to Tom 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:08.320 and he's the final say and everything with football, and 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:10.800 so I think that will be sorted out before anything else. 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:14.639 I agree. I think, like I said, I've been saying 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:17.040 it all along. I think Tom walks away. I think 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:20.639 there's other changes that coach Doug Marone's gone. I don't 1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:23.479 know what's gonna happen to Dave, but he could be 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:25.800 gone to I think he could have a clean sweep there. 1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:30.479 Now I mentioned Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy comes in. He's 1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:33.120 not gonna want to have football say, but he's gonna 1:27:33.240 --> 1:27:35.559 have impact on that football say. So in that scenario, 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:38.720 he might recommend a guy he's worked with over the 1:27:38.800 --> 1:27:41.519 years to be that football guy, so they could work 1:27:41.640 --> 1:27:44.439 hand in hand. So I think it's gonna be interesting 1:27:44.520 --> 1:27:47.160 to see how that plays out, because I think Mike 1:27:47.240 --> 1:27:51.759 McCarthy would be a heck of a hire for Jacksonville. Alright, 1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:54.880 questions are done. Thanks for all the submissions. Today, we're 1:27:54.920 --> 1:27:58.519 back in a moment. We'll have some PFF grades your favorite. Yeah, 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.080 we the AMC South stuff. We don't putting too much 1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:05.000 time on it. Yeah, it's gonna be a short, short, quick, quick, 1:28:05.040 --> 1:28:07.320 and then we're gonna move forward. 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There's Josh Allen Jaguars Defensive 1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:52.280 End in the locker room after the Jags defeat the 1:31:52.360 --> 1:31:55.479 Oakland Raiders and Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, 1:31:55.640 --> 1:32:00.439 Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli is perusing social media as 1:32:00.520 --> 1:32:05.800 we speak something real quick. You've been You've been in 1:32:05.880 --> 1:32:08.840 that scenario before where you're not winning, it's come to 1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:11.680 the end of the season. Are you looking forward to 1:32:11.800 --> 1:32:14.080 the end of the season. Are you regretting that you 1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:18.519 only have a couple more games to play? I was 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:21.280 looking forward to the end of the season. Um, it 1:32:21.479 --> 1:32:26.840 was such a long year and uh nine, and then 1:32:26.920 --> 1:32:32.120 in two thousand it's probably, I mean there's regret because 1:32:32.160 --> 1:32:33.559 you know, you let it slip away and you should 1:32:33.600 --> 1:32:36.760 be in the playoffs. We're a better team than being 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:38.920 seven and nine, and we lost probably three or four 1:32:39.000 --> 1:32:43.400 that we had no business losing that year. Um, so 1:32:43.520 --> 1:32:48.040 that was probably regret there. And then two thousand one, 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:49.120 I was hurt at the end of the year, so 1:32:49.160 --> 1:32:53.120 I wasn't thinking about it, and and then the other 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:56.240 the other years we were in the playoffs. Yeah, sometimes 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:59.200 I look at these teams and I'm thinking, Okay, do 1:32:59.320 --> 1:33:02.320 they want to play on? Where are they glad it's over? 1:33:03.000 --> 1:33:05.040 I think I think every situation, Yeah, I think every 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:07.360 situation is different. I think it's the culture, what's going on, 1:33:07.600 --> 1:33:09.439 how you know how you got to this point. Like 1:33:09.680 --> 1:33:12.400 my guess is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are like we 1:33:12.520 --> 1:33:15.280 wish we were playing, still playing because they're playing good football. 1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:17.800 You know. You look at the Atlanta Falcons with the 1:33:17.880 --> 1:33:21.280 talent that they have in understanding, salary cap and everything else, 1:33:21.360 --> 1:33:23.040 and you know how long you know they're gonna be 1:33:23.040 --> 1:33:24.720 a different team next year. And my guess is Matt 1:33:24.840 --> 1:33:26.680 Ryan and guys like that are saying, boy, we blew 1:33:26.760 --> 1:33:30.360 it were more talented than being five and nine. My 1:33:30.439 --> 1:33:32.719 guess is the Miami Dolphins are ready for the off season. 1:33:34.760 --> 1:33:37.800 I mean every team is different, different. I thought this 1:33:37.880 --> 1:33:40.000 team was ready for the off season, but going out 1:33:40.040 --> 1:33:43.680 there and winning tells me that it's not necessarily the case. No, 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:45.400 but you can be ready for the off season still 1:33:45.400 --> 1:33:50.400 play your tail off. I mean, yeahs for the for 1:33:50.880 --> 1:33:54.040 the Bahamas and Aruba and Puerto Rico and everything. You 1:33:54.120 --> 1:33:56.880 still play your tail off. Well, I'll do. This was 1:33:56.920 --> 1:33:58.600 a long year, you remember that. I mean it was 1:33:58.680 --> 1:34:02.760 a long year, long year, and I was exhausted and 1:34:02.840 --> 1:34:06.040 I was ready for football to be done. We have 1:34:06.160 --> 1:34:08.240 lost seven straight going to last game. I mean it 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:10.400 was just we got blown out in Detroit. I mean 1:34:10.479 --> 1:34:13.479 it was like, my goodness. With that said, I played 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:16.800 my tail off at every one of those games, and 1:34:16.880 --> 1:34:20.519 so I think both can be true at the same time. Yeah, 1:34:21.280 --> 1:34:22.960 and that was a year. You guys, what You beat 1:34:23.000 --> 1:34:27.760 Cleveland the last and then it carried over to the 1:34:27.840 --> 1:34:32.479 next year. Not. I love Pete. He does not believe 1:34:32.479 --> 1:34:37.120 in the carryover effect neither. I'm a big carry over guy. No, 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:42.280 you're not big carry over A lot of carry over. Um, 1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:45.080 how about a few of the highlights from Pro Pro 1:34:45.240 --> 1:34:48.040 Football Focus the grating in this all right, we gotta 1:34:48.040 --> 1:34:50.800 get in the offensive line because uh, Tony is usually 1:34:50.800 --> 1:34:52.600 accurate spot on with that. I'm sure we had a 1:34:52.640 --> 1:34:54.519 lot of time on the plane home to watch the 1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:57.200 Taps when he wasn't sleeping. I watched. I watched like 1:34:57.280 --> 1:34:59.280 a quarter on the way home, and then I watched 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:00.960 the movie. Then I left, and then I watched the 1:35:01.000 --> 1:35:05.639 rest of today. Okay, lowest rated offensive lineman, Sam Robinson 1:35:06.439 --> 1:35:15.280 easily highest rated offensive line. I would say Norwell or yeah, no, 1:35:15.400 --> 1:35:18.839 weell be my guy. Okay, he gave Linda got bad grades. 1:35:19.040 --> 1:35:22.200 Juwan Taylor got it so so great. Uh, and Can 1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:25.840 got an average grade. Yeah. I didn't think Linda was great. 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:29.400 I thought Jowan was fine. I thought he played solid. Uh, 1:35:29.680 --> 1:35:32.160 can tame. He had one or two plays that I'm 1:35:32.200 --> 1:35:34.000 sure he look back, but I thought he saw it too. 1:35:34.000 --> 1:35:37.000 I thought Norwell was the best. Cam was the works. Yeah, okay, 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:40.439 let's go to the defense. I rated defensive player is 1:35:40.479 --> 1:35:42.400 pretty easy. Well, it's gonna be in Gockway because of 1:35:42.400 --> 1:35:45.200 the sacks and two tackles for a loss, four tackles 1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:51.799 tax loss, they gave a negative grade. And run defense, 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:53.880 he had a couple. He had like some really good ones. 1:35:53.920 --> 1:35:55.840 I was talking about where he got tackles for a loss, 1:35:55.880 --> 1:35:57.519 beat the tackle one on one. Then he had some 1:35:57.680 --> 1:35:59.519 on the back side. I don't know what he was doing. 1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:01.920 I was and maybe that's this what he was being 1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:03.800 asked to do. I can't imagine, but he was running 1:36:03.840 --> 1:36:07.080 way underneath the blocks. I didn't understand it. So and 1:36:07.160 --> 1:36:09.120 if so, if I don't understand it and they're looking 1:36:09.120 --> 1:36:11.080 at the same thing, I can see why they would say, like, 1:36:11.280 --> 1:36:14.519 what the heck is he doing there? Lowest rated defensive 1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:18.519 player Tavin Bryant, No, he had low grade, but he's 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:22.479 not the lowest. Yeah, he had a tough day. Donald 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:27.040 Payne had thirteen tackles down the field. Yeah. I mean, 1:36:28.479 --> 1:36:30.360 how about the here's a great stat for you, Pete. 1:36:30.840 --> 1:36:34.040 In eleven games, Miles Jack had sixty six tackles. I 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:38.439 think it is over three games, Donald Payne has forty 1:36:38.479 --> 1:36:42.439 three tackles. Yeah, but he's not playing well. But just 1:36:43.000 --> 1:36:45.920 think that through for a second. I know, you know 1:36:45.960 --> 1:36:47.360 who else had a bad game and he got a 1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:48.880 pin done here too, And I could see it on 1:36:48.920 --> 1:36:50.840 the TV. I didn't see the tape yet, but Ronnie 1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:53.479 Harrison was bad. Ronnie Harrison did not have a good game. 1:36:53.479 --> 1:36:56.240 I don't think he wasn't flying around either. The tight 1:36:56.320 --> 1:36:58.080 end was running past him a lot. But he wasn't 1:36:58.080 --> 1:37:00.320 flying around, getting up there and making tackles. I Jared 1:37:00.360 --> 1:37:02.840 Wilson had a good game. I thought Jarald Wilson played well, 1:37:03.439 --> 1:37:06.200 good great, missed one tackle on what tyrone was Yeah, 1:37:06.240 --> 1:37:07.760 that was a like at the beginning, I was like, 1:37:07.800 --> 1:37:09.479 oh my gosh, come on, Jared, you can't do that. 1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:11.560 It was awful. But the rest of the game, I 1:37:11.600 --> 1:37:13.639 thought he played well. I thought he played once again, 1:37:13.840 --> 1:37:17.920 Hayden played well. Haydon played well. A J was just okay. 1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:22.080 Um they gave him, they gave a j a good grade. Yeah, 1:37:22.080 --> 1:37:24.240 I thought he was just okay. What do you think 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:28.120 of Colletro? You know, he's in the right spot. I 1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:30.600 mean he has some limitation athletically, but he is in 1:37:30.640 --> 1:37:32.920 the right spot at the right I mean he is 1:37:33.000 --> 1:37:35.800 a smart football player. I'll give him that. You know 1:37:35.840 --> 1:37:39.960 who they said had a good game, Leon Jacobs. I 1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:41.439 didn't get a lot of snaps, but yeah, you had 1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:43.760 some plays, made some real sure tackles, And I agree 1:37:43.800 --> 1:37:47.519 with that. Playing the strong Jacobs played ted more snaps 1:37:47.560 --> 1:37:53.080 than Josh Allen did. Yeah, let's touch on the a 1:37:53.240 --> 1:37:56.320 f C South. What about the where they I want 1:37:56.360 --> 1:37:58.120 to just we did the offensive line. What about the 1:37:58.120 --> 1:38:06.280 skill guys for the offense. The highest rated was Healing 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:13.120 Cole okay uh. Leonard Fournett was the next highest rated. 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:16.760 They gave Minshew a negative grade, They gave Conley a 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:19.960 negative grade, and they gave Westbrook a pretty big negative grade. 1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:23.200 Calmly in a negative grade with two touchdowns? Huh? Yes, 1:38:23.600 --> 1:38:26.040 well he got run blocking. They gave him a negative 1:38:26.040 --> 1:38:29.800 that's the only reason. Does he not block outside, Tony? No, 1:38:29.920 --> 1:38:31.400 he was blocking. He had called for a block in 1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:33.800 the back. That was well, you hit him in the 1:38:33.840 --> 1:38:39.320 Back's probably he was aggressive for you, Tony. This will 1:38:39.320 --> 1:38:42.120 be interesting. They gave ben Koyak a positive grade and 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:48.280 he got it because of his run blocking. Um, I 1:38:48.360 --> 1:38:51.120 didn't focus on it like so he didn't stand at 1:38:51.160 --> 1:38:54.920 as bad. So okay, let's let's look at the a 1:38:55.040 --> 1:38:58.519 FC South. Are you okay? Are you gonna survive? He's 1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:00.799 getting all choked up talking about his off as alignment 1:39:00.840 --> 1:39:03.560 on here. Sorry, the scores got got him the p 1:39:03.720 --> 1:39:12.720 f F grade. Yesterday the Texans over the Titans. One 1:39:12.800 --> 1:39:15.280 carlos Hi had another hundred yard day and a touchdown. 1:39:15.439 --> 1:39:18.240 Still has had a couple of touchdowns that would I 1:39:18.280 --> 1:39:24.679 thought the Titans win that game. Of course, the Jacks 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:27.280 were the Raiders tonight Colts on the Monday Night Football preview. 1:39:27.320 --> 1:39:29.120 That one coming up. But yeah, the the Texans are 1:39:29.160 --> 1:39:31.280 in command now in the a f C South. Well, 1:39:31.280 --> 1:39:36.360 they play again against each other. If if the Titans 1:39:36.400 --> 1:39:43.960 went out in Houston one, No, if Houston loses, um 1:39:45.640 --> 1:39:49.800 so pete. This is the question. So if Houston loses two, uh, 1:39:50.520 --> 1:39:52.320 let's say they win tamp beat Tampa, but then they 1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:54.439 lose to the Titans. They have the same conference record, 1:39:54.520 --> 1:39:57.960 the same division record, and so does it it must 1:39:57.960 --> 1:40:01.599 go to common opponents or something. No, the division record 1:40:01.760 --> 1:40:05.320 is used to us. That's right there. Two and three. 1:40:05.360 --> 1:40:07.920 I'm sorry, I was thinking they need Tennessee needs Houston 1:40:07.960 --> 1:40:10.719 to lose both games. The bottom line those if Tennessee 1:40:10.760 --> 1:40:12.680 wins the next two, they're in the wild They're the 1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:16.560 wild card team over Pittsburgh. I'm pretty sure that's the 1:40:16.640 --> 1:40:24.200 case based on tie breakers. I think no, Pitts. All 1:40:24.240 --> 1:40:25.920 Pittfer guts to do is win two in the last three, 1:40:25.920 --> 1:40:27.599 and they were a wild card team, so they lost 1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:29.840 last night. So if they win the next two, there 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:32.439 the wild card teams, so they get in over Tennessee. 1:40:32.439 --> 1:40:37.160 I'm tiebreakers and tiebreakers and all that. Yeah, Bill's clinch. 1:40:37.320 --> 1:40:39.680 They're already in a playoff berth at least at ten 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:43.640 and four. By the way, one quick thing, JP, if 1:40:43.640 --> 1:40:46.559 you're the Raymonds in Week seventeen and you've clinched everything, 1:40:46.760 --> 1:40:48.720 do you rest guys and if the Steelers beaches they're 1:40:48.800 --> 1:40:53.519 in and then you want your division rifle in? I mean, 1:40:53.600 --> 1:40:56.360 what's the best for your team moving into the playoffs? 1:40:57.040 --> 1:40:59.880 What would you do, Tony? I wasn't paying attention to 1:41:00.360 --> 1:41:06.160 the Ravens if they clinch. If they clinch and they 1:41:06.200 --> 1:41:08.240 can rest guys in Week seven, team when they play 1:41:08.280 --> 1:41:11.680 the Steelers, do you rest your guys and allow the 1:41:11.840 --> 1:41:17.479 your division rival to get into the playoffs? Uh? I 1:41:17.520 --> 1:41:20.519 think they'd rather play the Steelers in the playoffs in 1:41:20.560 --> 1:41:27.080 the Tennessee Titans, so you let them in. Well, who 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:29.720 would you rather? I'd rather play the Titans than I'd 1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:32.080 rather play this. I mean, rather play the Steelers in 1:41:32.080 --> 1:41:34.479 the Titans. Just from the quarterback, Ryan Tannial is better 1:41:34.520 --> 1:41:38.000 than Dug Down? Do you have an AFC South? The 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:40.840 Jags are done, They're not going to the postseason. We're 1:41:40.880 --> 1:41:43.479 back in a moment. Are you sure that that graphics right? 1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:46.560 I thought the Raiders were eliminated yesterday. No they're not. 1:41:46.800 --> 1:41:51.439 They're not officially we are. You're questioning the accuracy of 1:41:51.560 --> 1:41:55.599 the graphics. I was, okay, I did. Sorry, Well, you're wrong. 1:41:55.720 --> 1:41:57.720 I was, and I can admit when we're wrong. It's 1:41:57.760 --> 1:41:59.400 not very often, so it's easy for me to admit 1:41:59.439 --> 1:42:02.120 when I'm wrong because us I'm right. Let's come back 1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:03.920 in a moment, we'll recap the rest of the games 1:42:03.960 --> 1:42:07.120 in the National Football Let's do that. Let's in just 1:42:07.240 --> 1:42:09.759 a moment. It's the Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 1:42:09.840 --> 1:42:21.240 Digital Network. 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I'm trying to fit strong. 1:46:01.720 --> 1:46:04.040 What was wrong with the first hour and minutes? I 1:46:04.120 --> 1:46:05.680 thought I had to carry peat, so it was tough 1:46:05.720 --> 1:46:09.200 and tired. Oh my god, Tony was it? Is it 1:46:09.320 --> 1:46:12.560 worse than it was when you were there? What the 1:46:12.680 --> 1:46:16.519 Colosseum when you play there, there's there's more weed now, 1:46:16.680 --> 1:46:21.360 but no worse. It might be nicer because I think 1:46:21.400 --> 1:46:23.519 people are probably nicer when they spoke weed than get 1:46:23.560 --> 1:46:27.840 really drunk. And they used to be really drunk. I mean, 1:46:27.880 --> 1:46:31.960 it's a non scientific opinion. So well, isn't weed legal 1:46:32.000 --> 1:46:34.559 in California? It is now, but it wasn't back when 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:36.840 I was playing. No, I know what I'm saying. That's 1:46:36.840 --> 1:46:39.320 why I said I think they're nicer now because back 1:46:39.360 --> 1:46:41.479 then there's all really drunk. Now, like half of them 1:46:41.520 --> 1:46:46.920 are really intoxicated from the weed. I don't know. Judgment 1:46:46.960 --> 1:46:49.000 by the middle fingers. You guys all say they've been choosing, 1:46:49.000 --> 1:46:50.840 and I don't think they were much nicer. Well, we 1:46:50.920 --> 1:46:53.040 got the middle fingers back then too. I was number 1:46:53.080 --> 1:46:57.640 one back then. That was popular. Let's go around the 1:46:58.080 --> 1:47:00.800 other games of the National Football League. Get this week. 1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:04.679 Let's start back on Thursday. The Ravens do it. Yeah, 1:47:04.720 --> 1:47:08.360 I was there. Lamar Jackson is fabulous. Jets aren't very good, 1:47:08.960 --> 1:47:11.559 but This is when you know a players really special, 1:47:11.960 --> 1:47:14.080 like the Jets would have the perfect defense called being 1:47:14.120 --> 1:47:16.679 the perfect position defensive and sitting on the zone read 1:47:16.840 --> 1:47:19.280 there one on one to make a tackle, add no chance, 1:47:19.720 --> 1:47:21.920 no chance to tackle him. He's just gonna go right 1:47:21.960 --> 1:47:24.160 around and he's make a little move. You're gonna be 1:47:24.200 --> 1:47:26.080 sitting there holding your jock and he's gonna be running 1:47:26.080 --> 1:47:30.840 down the sideline. He is a special player. Does it 1:47:31.000 --> 1:47:34.080 change when he can't run the way he runs? I'll 1:47:34.120 --> 1:47:35.800 let you know when that happens. But right now he 1:47:35.920 --> 1:47:39.400 can No I know, but you know I saw a 1:47:39.439 --> 1:47:42.800 stat where his receivers are like open more than any 1:47:42.880 --> 1:47:45.479 receivers in the league. And it's not because they're great receivers. 1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:48.800 It is because of his ability to run the football well. 1:47:48.840 --> 1:47:51.320 He's operating better and better from the pocket. So if 1:47:51.320 --> 1:47:54.240 he keeps upproven, obviously his athletic ability will slow down 1:47:54.280 --> 1:47:57.000 as he gets older. But if his pocket presence and 1:47:57.080 --> 1:47:59.720 his pocket effectiveness increases at the rate it did from 1:47:59.760 --> 1:48:01.960 your one two year two, which probably won't go up 1:48:02.000 --> 1:48:03.560 that much, but if he keeps them going down the 1:48:03.640 --> 1:48:06.160 right direction, the kid loves football. The kid works very hard. 1:48:06.880 --> 1:48:08.560 Um I think he's gonna be I think he's a 1:48:08.600 --> 1:48:10.360 good He's a very good player. He's m v P. 1:48:13.760 --> 1:48:16.640 If you had to pick one Mahomes or Jackson for 1:48:16.720 --> 1:48:18.240 the long haul, which one you take it? I would 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:21.559 still take Mahomes. It's just I like, you know, more 1:48:21.600 --> 1:48:24.640 traditional way of playing quarterback. But I couldn't argue with 1:48:24.680 --> 1:48:27.280 anyone if they took Lamaren Jackson. He's the better player. 1:48:27.320 --> 1:48:31.559 He's the He's the better player this year. Yeah. Russell 1:48:31.640 --> 1:48:36.320 Wilson two touchdown passes twenty six passing in that game. 1:48:36.400 --> 1:48:38.160 Carson had a couple of touchdowns on the ground. The 1:48:38.200 --> 1:48:42.040 Seahawks beat the Panthers four. You know, the Panthers made 1:48:42.080 --> 1:48:45.920 a late run, but Seattle control that game most of 1:48:45.920 --> 1:48:47.400 the time. Pete, from what I saw, we saw the 1:48:47.439 --> 1:48:52.639 first time the number one. They are the number one seed. 1:48:52.720 --> 1:48:55.120 But it's gonna come down they play each other here. 1:48:55.320 --> 1:48:56.880 Is it this week or is it the last week 1:48:56.920 --> 1:48:58.840 of this week? Next week they play each other. It's 1:48:58.880 --> 1:49:00.760 gonna come down to that game. Whoever wins that games win. 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:03.439 In the West, the forty Niners play the Rams this week. 1:49:04.439 --> 1:49:06.720 The Cardinals play the Seahawks in the next week. The 1:49:06.760 --> 1:49:09.000 two teams played. Yeah, so it's gonna come down to 1:49:09.040 --> 1:49:13.880 that game. Patriots defense had a big day over the Bengals. 1:49:13.920 --> 1:49:17.759 What do you make of all this video controversy? Peak again, 1:49:17.800 --> 1:49:19.240 I go back to I mean, it's it looks like 1:49:19.360 --> 1:49:21.320 they did it, But why would you do it? If 1:49:21.320 --> 1:49:22.960 you could just send somebody in the front row with 1:49:23.040 --> 1:49:25.479 a camera on the phone and video tape signals if 1:49:25.479 --> 1:49:28.080 you wanted to, I don't know. Just look, I think 1:49:28.120 --> 1:49:30.000 they've done stuff in the past, Don't get me wrong. 1:49:30.160 --> 1:49:32.479 I just think this one the common sense would tell 1:49:32.479 --> 1:49:34.120 you that why would you do it? I don't think 1:49:34.400 --> 1:49:37.599 that stupid. I don't think Bill Belichick, with the football 1:49:37.600 --> 1:49:39.920 side of this, of the New England Patriots, had anything 1:49:40.000 --> 1:49:42.439 to do with this production team any benefit from it. 1:49:42.880 --> 1:49:44.640 I didn't even know about it. I think it was 1:49:44.720 --> 1:49:46.960 a project they were trying to do, you know, for 1:49:47.160 --> 1:49:51.360 other purposes, uh uh, throughout the organization, and I think 1:49:51.439 --> 1:49:53.639 it's nonsense and it's nothing to do with what's happening 1:49:53.640 --> 1:49:58.760 on the field. Buccaneers seven and seven. Now the win 1:49:58.840 --> 1:50:02.320 over the Lions thirty eight seventeen. They have a big choice. 1:50:02.640 --> 1:50:04.720 Jamis Winston has thirty touchdowns this year, but he has 1:50:04.760 --> 1:50:08.360 twenty three interceptions through four touchdowns, one pick, four hundred 1:50:08.400 --> 1:50:10.760 fifty yards like the first player in a long time 1:50:10.840 --> 1:50:13.479 to have back to back games with four hundred fifty 1:50:13.520 --> 1:50:16.920 plus uh in passing. When it's good, it's really good. 1:50:17.000 --> 1:50:21.120 But Boye picks beats way too many plus eleven fumbles 1:50:21.479 --> 1:50:26.160 in the pocket. But Tony, if they're offensive line is 1:50:26.200 --> 1:50:28.000 better and they're better on defense, then he doesn't have 1:50:28.080 --> 1:50:29.760 to throw as much and pressed as much. I mean, 1:50:29.800 --> 1:50:31.840 you know how that is. That defense for much of 1:50:31.960 --> 1:50:33.920 the last couple of years has been awful. So you're 1:50:33.960 --> 1:50:36.680 pressing and playing from behind, you're gonna turn the ball over. 1:50:36.800 --> 1:50:38.920 So are you gonna pay him a hundred and fifty 1:50:38.920 --> 1:50:41.320 million dollars over five years? No, I'm gonna tag him. 1:50:43.200 --> 1:50:48.240 I agree. Packers over the Bears, Green Bay now eleven 1:50:48.320 --> 1:50:51.360 and three. I mean, the Bears struggle on offense, they're 1:50:51.360 --> 1:50:53.799 a good defense, they're a good football team. The quarterbacks 1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:56.160 not consistent. If I didn't see any any of the game, 1:50:56.280 --> 1:50:59.600 just saw the statistics and kind of final score. But 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:03.920 my takeaway from not watching it it wasn't pretty. That's 1:51:03.960 --> 1:51:06.720 another game where the Packers had it in hand for 1:51:06.880 --> 1:51:08.840 much of the game and and let the Bears get 1:51:08.840 --> 1:51:11.400 back into it late. Big game this week though, Packers 1:51:11.479 --> 1:51:18.439 and Vikings Kings that Monday night. Yes speaking of the Vikings, 1:51:18.520 --> 1:51:22.360 they beat the Chargers thirty nine to ten yesterday. I 1:51:22.360 --> 1:51:25.200 ain't the Chargers have a very interesting offseason coming up 1:51:25.240 --> 1:51:27.600 what they do with Philip Rivers because he is not 1:51:27.680 --> 1:51:31.639 playing good football this year. Peat, I think he's gonna retire. 1:51:31.920 --> 1:51:34.479 That's just my gun. I haven't heard that from anybody. 1:51:34.520 --> 1:51:36.519 I just get it. It just has that look about 1:51:36.760 --> 1:51:39.000 I don't think he's gonna play next year. In the 1:51:39.120 --> 1:51:42.880 snow and Kansas City, the Chiefs over the Broncos three. 1:51:44.080 --> 1:51:46.400 You know, Drew, It was Drew Luck's homecoming and he 1:51:46.479 --> 1:51:49.360 didn't play very well from the brief parts of the 1:51:49.400 --> 1:51:52.240 game I saw on the overall, you know, kind of outcome. 1:51:52.720 --> 1:51:54.360 But I think Drew Luck has a chance to be 1:51:54.400 --> 1:51:59.400 a pretty good player. And what I say Drew Luck, 1:51:59.520 --> 1:52:04.160 Drew Luck, that meant Lock sorry lost cousin of yeah 1:52:04.720 --> 1:52:09.720 and uh yeah. Anyways, I think you know Pete, I 1:52:09.800 --> 1:52:14.559 think he has a chance too. He was terrible yesterday, terrible, 1:52:14.960 --> 1:52:21.200 but bad weather. You know one thing seven you know 1:52:21.320 --> 1:52:23.800 this Spagnola they say it would take some time with 1:52:23.840 --> 1:52:26.640 Spagnola's defense, and it's they're getting better playing in that 1:52:26.760 --> 1:52:29.640 defense again. They got Drurell Suggs. I mean, is that 1:52:29.720 --> 1:52:33.519 gonna help him, Pete, he's kind of old, Yeah, but 1:52:33.720 --> 1:52:36.080 he can still rush when you know, a situational rusher, 1:52:36.200 --> 1:52:41.800 you know, help We'll see. I'm not great player. I'm 1:52:41.840 --> 1:52:44.879 not sure it's gonna help him. Giants over the Dolphins 1:52:44.960 --> 1:52:49.200 thirty six to twenty. Eli Manning probably his last home 1:52:49.280 --> 1:52:53.040 game in New York. Yeah, it was nice to see 1:52:53.120 --> 1:52:55.160 him go out that way too. I like he did 1:52:55.200 --> 1:52:58.360 some really good things. They gave him standing ovation. He's 1:52:58.360 --> 1:53:00.400 probably gonna go into the Hall of Fame. But that 1:53:00.600 --> 1:53:03.240 he knows it's over. It's done. The other guys their 1:53:03.320 --> 1:53:06.400 quarterback and he on another team next year. Pete, I 1:53:06.439 --> 1:53:11.519 don't see. I think he's another retiree, don't you. Eagles 1:53:11.560 --> 1:53:15.800 over the Redskins thirty seven in Washington, setting up a 1:53:15.800 --> 1:53:19.120 big game. The NFC East will be decided this weekend 1:53:19.880 --> 1:53:23.320 between the Cowboys and the Eagles. It's incredible. It is 1:53:23.360 --> 1:53:27.599 absolutely incredible that those teams who have played so poorly 1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:30.200 at times during the season will be the two teams 1:53:30.280 --> 1:53:31.919 that one of those two teams are going to the playoffs. 1:53:32.560 --> 1:53:38.400 Cowboys beat the ram Rams are done. They got major issues, 1:53:38.439 --> 1:53:42.519 they have cap issues. They you know, they've struggled all year. 1:53:44.160 --> 1:53:47.120 Offensive line started playing better. They put the young guys 1:53:47.160 --> 1:53:50.080 in there. They're not one week on defense are great, 1:53:50.160 --> 1:53:52.360 but I've been sold on the defense all year. What 1:53:52.680 --> 1:53:55.080 does McVeigh do with Wade Phillips? Does he bring him back? 1:53:56.040 --> 1:53:57.959 I mean they go, They're gonna have a tough offseason 1:53:58.000 --> 1:54:01.680 because the cap issues and uh so deciding who the 1:54:01.800 --> 1:54:06.720 hen They don't have any draft picks either. Jaxonville has 1:54:06.720 --> 1:54:09.080 their draft pick. That's a good that's a good loss 1:54:09.120 --> 1:54:14.000 for me right now. Um, there's what twelve teams go 1:54:14.080 --> 1:54:17.479 to the playoffs. That's twenty teams. The best case, they're 1:54:17.479 --> 1:54:19.679 gonna have the twentieth pick. We need them to lose 1:54:19.720 --> 1:54:25.719 out and get to like fifteen. H Cardinal Jexual didn't 1:54:25.720 --> 1:54:29.680 do itself any favors by winning yesterday either Cardinals over 1:54:29.720 --> 1:54:33.560 the Browns. That was a surprising one. I think that 1:54:33.640 --> 1:54:36.760 sealed the fate for Freddy Kitchens. I would agree with you. 1:54:36.800 --> 1:54:40.040 I think he's done. And it wasn't even that closed 1:54:40.080 --> 1:54:45.640 by the way, Dodel Backham back in Cleveland. Pete, he's hurt. 1:54:45.720 --> 1:54:48.600 He can't run. Tony, he's hurt. He's gotta have I 1:54:48.680 --> 1:54:52.560 think he's gotta have um groin surgery. He can't run. 1:54:52.880 --> 1:54:55.560 I don't know who who trade for him? Would you 1:54:55.640 --> 1:55:01.760 want to? I'm not sure. Falcons over the Niners on 1:55:01.840 --> 1:55:05.280 the last play of the game. That was shocking. I 1:55:05.400 --> 1:55:08.680 did not see Atlanta going to San Francisco beating that team. No, 1:55:09.000 --> 1:55:11.400 And then I'll tell you what. They played good defensively 1:55:11.440 --> 1:55:13.160 in that game, which you know, would be interesting to 1:55:13.160 --> 1:55:15.520 see if that carries over. They've played much better on 1:55:15.680 --> 1:55:19.200 defense the last couple, you know, four or five weeks 1:55:19.480 --> 1:55:22.040 after they got Dan Quinn away from the defense and 1:55:22.160 --> 1:55:25.440 let Raheem Morris and those guys called the defense. How 1:55:25.480 --> 1:55:27.680 they played this week? And you look at San Francisco 1:55:28.000 --> 1:55:30.960 back to back really tough games. They went to Baltimore, left, 1:55:31.200 --> 1:55:33.840 lost a really close game at the end, physical game, 1:55:34.160 --> 1:55:37.240 beat New Orleans, tough game on the road, back to 1:55:37.280 --> 1:55:39.840 back tough road games. Come home, but they lost. They 1:55:39.880 --> 1:55:44.000 lost their center, starting center, Rich Richburg. I mean, they 1:55:44.080 --> 1:55:47.000 lost some guys and Sherman. I mean, so this is 1:55:47.040 --> 1:55:49.800 a team that is not healthy or even close to 1:55:49.880 --> 1:55:51.840 it going into the playoff. The Bills. It's amazing though 1:55:51.880 --> 1:55:54.800 you fall from one to five. You go from having 1:55:54.800 --> 1:55:57.160 the home field advantage all the way through this week 1:55:57.240 --> 1:55:58.960 and then you lose, and now you're a five seat 1:55:59.000 --> 1:56:01.720 going on the road and switch again next week. It 1:56:01.800 --> 1:56:04.480 could Bills beat the Steelers, Bills secure the playoff spot. 1:56:04.560 --> 1:56:07.920 Seventeen ten the final on Sunday Night Football. It's Monday 1:56:08.040 --> 1:56:11.240 Night Football tonight. The six and seven Indianapolis Colts are 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:14.480 on live support, trying to keep any hope alive for 1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:16.880 the a f C wild Card race. Jacobe Proscett leads 1:56:16.920 --> 1:56:20.280 them into the super Dome the face Drew Brees and 1:56:20.360 --> 1:56:23.320 the weapons of the NFC South champion New Orleans Saints. 1:56:23.680 --> 1:56:25.800 It's allowed one in the Dome. Who you got tonight? 1:56:27.480 --> 1:56:30.200 I got New Orleans. I mean, I think, I think 1:56:30.240 --> 1:56:34.120 a better team and I think, you know, the Colts. 1:56:34.560 --> 1:56:37.840 I can't figure out they're up and down. They've got 1:56:37.880 --> 1:56:39.800 a pretty good roster. I like the roster a lot 1:56:40.680 --> 1:56:42.480 present has to be a little bit better. But they 1:56:42.640 --> 1:56:46.000 just uh, I think they lost this on the Thursday 1:56:46.080 --> 1:56:49.160 night game in Houston when they were controlling that game 1:56:49.280 --> 1:56:52.960 going into the fourth quarter, stopped running it and UH 1:56:53.120 --> 1:56:55.760 ended up losing a game they should have won. And 1:56:55.800 --> 1:56:58.160 the quarterback hasn't played as well. You know that he 1:56:58.240 --> 1:57:00.960 got hurt. That's right, beat with you. I like the Saints, 1:57:01.400 --> 1:57:04.040 great show. I have a great week. We'll talk all right, guys, 1:57:04.200 --> 1:57:06.400 take care of talk to you next week. Pete Prisco, 1:57:06.560 --> 1:57:10.040 CBS Sports Senior writer, Tony Vaselli prior to the Jaguars 1:57:10.120 --> 1:57:12.280 left tackle, Yes, that's what I've heard. I'm j P 1:57:12.400 --> 1:57:15.080 shatter you are, and I don't think that's gonna change. 1:57:16.000 --> 1:57:19.720 I hope not. 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