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Speaker 1: our part. We came across an unbelievable piece of journalism recently,

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Speaker 1: and it is in a student newspaper, the California Aggie,

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Speaker 1: a young man named Nick Irvin, about a professor who's

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Speaker 1: Nick Irvin is a senior at the University of California, Davis,

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Speaker 1: UM and the associate opinion editor at California Aggie. Uh. Nick, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy you guys invited me. Oh yeah, well it's

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Speaker 1: But I just actually believe that stuff. Well, and in

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can be either. You can't have

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Speaker 1: Adam or they have a Twitter account, whatever, go get them.

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Speaker 1: We want to link all that respectful and reasonable. Do

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Speaker 1: not do not lower yourselves. We've made it simple for you.

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Speaker 1: Hanson's gonna work on that. I'm strong and getty dot

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Speaker 1: don't care where you're listening and where you live. You

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. And if it's not at a campus

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