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Speaker 1: post game show after yet another restorating game. Although they

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, man, I'm feeling weirdly positive

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Speaker 1: after this one. I know that sounds insane to say, um,

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Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with the comeback, which

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Speaker 1: I think you and I will get into. But first

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Speaker 1: of all, I sincerely appreciate you on short notice coming

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Speaker 1: to hop On tonight while ROJ is partying listening to

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Speaker 1: E d M music doing god knows what else. I know.

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Speaker 1: I think where is it. He's in Vegas right now,

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Speaker 1: these dudes doing something some some some dim festival. I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that I could fill uh Phil Roger's seat,

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Speaker 1: and I'll i'll try to do my best to fill

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Speaker 1: his role for for this episode, this post game. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, um. So you know, obviously, as things

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Speaker 1: were progressing in the game, it was extremely frustrating, but

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Speaker 1: I kept trying to compartmentalize it by acknowledging you know

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Speaker 1: where things went off the rails, and you actually did

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Speaker 1: a good job of calling this out as well. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Lakers lost their focus in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter and when you do that against the team

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Speaker 1: as good as Phoenix, with the continuity that they have

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Speaker 1: and at the level that they're playing right now, things

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Speaker 1: can get out of control pretty quickly. And I that

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Speaker 1: my impression was that it kind of started with those

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Speaker 1: bad three point shot fouls, and I genuinely believe they

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Speaker 1: were bad calls that said, you can't let a bad

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Speaker 1: And then you you brought up the fact that Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul at that point kind of smell blood or you know,

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Speaker 1: picked up on what was happening and just went to

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Speaker 1: the kill. And during that stretch he was magnificent. So

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Speaker 1: do you want to talk about what you noticed in

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Speaker 1: that stretch? Yeah, So, I mean, I think the turning

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Speaker 1: point of this game is when Chris Paul got into

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Speaker 1: his generational troll bag and just started baiting the Lakers

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Speaker 1: into just you know, like stupid fouls. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: he started doing a lot of stuff that he kind

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Speaker 1: of does when and you know, it's it's one of

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Speaker 1: Like he he always had a pretty good uh finger

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Speaker 1: revs are calling the game and stuff I got, and

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Speaker 1: I thought he was working really hard to get calls. Um.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked at some of the calls that he

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Speaker 1: was getting UM, but he was getting him and I

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Speaker 1: think it completely took the Lakers out of it. And um,

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Speaker 1: it's I think what you just described, like Crowder getting

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Speaker 1: that flavrant foul onbron Um. I think Chris Paul drew

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Speaker 1: another three point file just a little bit later. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm mellow or something I got. Like it just

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Speaker 1: that completely put the Lakers in a funk. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Lakers ever kind of recovered from it

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Speaker 1: because they probably thought there was a lot of fifty

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you you played basketball. I haven't played

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Speaker 1: same little basketball you have. I played a high school.

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Speaker 1: But like that kind of stuff, when you're not getting

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Speaker 1: much completely lost focus at that point. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's waited out like after a halftime. I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, either the Lakers are gonna cut

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Speaker 1: And that's you know, it went in the opposite direction, um,

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Speaker 1: it go so bad so fast? Right because they were up.

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Speaker 1: You despite all of the things that I complained about

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Speaker 1: with the Laker offense, which we will get to and

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Speaker 1: they are still legitimate concerns having to do with spacing,

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Speaker 1: um and you. You and I were uh in a

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Speaker 1: And Michail Bridges had this stretch there in that quarter

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Speaker 1: by just giving Phoenix credit during that stretch they just

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Speaker 1: played magnificent basketball. And the Lakers right now are not

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Speaker 1: It never really turned into like blowout territory or big

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Speaker 1: what Vogel does with these lineups. But he made some

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Speaker 1: You know, So this is something you said to me

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Speaker 1: in the direct message, which I thought was super fascinating

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Speaker 1: because it's something that I've been harping on this entire

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Speaker 1: article I wrote was about just modern basketball, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the way that the smartest minds in the NBA right

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Speaker 1: because you can get convoluted into all sorts of stuff

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Speaker 1: the ball and blah blah blah blah blah. But the

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Speaker 1: gist of it is what Phoenix is doing. You've got

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Speaker 1: your primary creators. There's three of them on the team.

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Speaker 1: They run everything through campaign, Chris Paul and Devin Booker,

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Speaker 1: and every single one of their actions involves getting one

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see is, like what you saw there

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Speaker 1: Guys will be in a better rhythm. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a coincidence that Anthony Davis in two of his

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Speaker 1: I do think those things are related, and I think

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Speaker 1: Frank heavily favor size and heavily favors you know that

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Speaker 1: that defensive mentality at the expense of the of the

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Speaker 1: I'm on board with you. Um So, So there's actually

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Speaker 1: conversation that's been going on by by very very smart folks,

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Speaker 1: around basketball has been around that this idea that you

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Speaker 1: present that you're mentioning right now, right like spacing the

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Speaker 1: to play, is important. Um But but I think as

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Speaker 1: And the thing that I think folks are the only

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Speaker 1: about this team in the long run. I think that

432
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: basketball is a game of habits. I've always felt this way,

433
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: and they are impossible to reverse overnight. And I do

434
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's a coincidence that you

435
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: lose your preseason games, all six of them. Because what

436
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: that means is down the roster, including your G League guys,

437
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: there's a a level of accountability and a level of

438
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: effort that is lacking compared to the other team. Your point,

439
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: because you know, Austin Reeves is every bit as good

440
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: as the G League guy on the other team, and

441
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: so as Chaundy Brown and all these other guys. The

442
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: differences is that team culturally in their training camp was

443
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: more dialed in on that end, and it it became

444
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: abundantly clear that the Lakers in those games, and it

445
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: manifested into these two regular season games, just worn't as sharp.

446
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: And so fortunately they are going to run into a

447
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: stretch here where they're gonna get some winnable games. So

448
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna have it, They're gonna have the opportunity to

449
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: try to reverse some of these habits against competition that

450
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: they can still afford to make some mistakes, because again,

451
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: and it's not going to happen overnight, and God willing,

452
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,239
Speaker 1: they'll be somewhere in that seven to two, you know, uh,

453
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 1: six and three range when they head back into a

454
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: tougher part of their schedule, so that that this is

455
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: what I've been preaching about all preseason. They look terrible

456
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: and that's continued here to the start. But they have

457
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: time to figure this out. They're not going to get

458
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 1: into the tough part of their schedule until you know,

459
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: another couple of weeks from now. They just eventually their

460
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: competitive fire has to kick in a little bit, and

461
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: they did there in that fourth quarter, although Phoenix let

462
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas. But they need to ride

463
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: that competitive way into better basketball. Yeah, Oh, it's that

464
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: that competitive wave is coming sooner or later. Like I

465
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: think one of one of the things that I kind

466
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: of took I've been watching as opposing teams play against

467
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: play against Lakers is you know, like I've seen a

468
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: lot of basketball, Like in my lifetime, Lakers basketball, love

469
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: a lot of basketball in general. As guys get older,

470
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: like the superstar players and the star players get all there,

471
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: there's always a point, you know, uh, in their career

472
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: where younger players kind of come in and they and

473
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: they're very disconnected from the aura and and the the

474
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: like amazing nous of the player that they're playing against. Right, So,

475
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 1: Braun maybe five years ago, seven years ago. You anybody

476
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: who played against Braun always was like, wow, you know,

477
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: I've I've always had a young guy playing against would

478
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: be like, oh wow, you know, like I'm always wanted

479
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: to bron has been my idol. I've always wanted to

480
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: play against him. And there there are players that are

481
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: still like that right now. But you are also going

482
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: to get players like Jay Crowder. You are also going

483
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: to get players like, you know, like a Jordan Pool

484
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: who really don't care about who they're playing against, and

485
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: they're going to bring like you know, the the the

486
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: what what's this? What's the same? You know, like when

487
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: you play against like a Juggernaut team and you just

488
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: know you're probably not gonna win, or they've got a

489
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: guy on the other team that nobody can stop, and

490
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: so you're walking into that game thinking to yourself like,

491
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, maybe halfway like all right, you know what,

492
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna We're probably not gonna win this game. I'm

493
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna try my best. Like, I don't think teams look

494
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: at the Lakers like that this this season, Does that

495
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: make sense? Like I think this fear, Yeah, I think

496
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: people look at Anthony Davis say said, all right, you

497
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: know what if I if I try to bullieve this

498
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: guy a little bit, maybe maybe I can win this game,

499
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, where they look at Braun and they say, Okay,

500
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: maybe if I give him a hard file here or there,

501
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: if I or if I really kind of get into

502
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: space or something I got, I can make it difficult. Front.

503
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that that these guys, you know, the

504
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Lakers just gonna fold. But I genuinely think that there's

505
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: enough young players amongst all these contending teams across the

506
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: league that the Lakers are going to have to run

507
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: into where they're going to give the Lakers, you know,

508
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: and they're not going to be afraid. You know, even

509
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: if they go down ten, ten points, twelve points, it

510
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: means nothing in the modern NBA. So it's like the

511
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: reason I'm saying that is because we're playing who Lakers

512
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: are playing Memphis the next game, Like Memphis, I think

513
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: he's winning their game. Yeah, exactly. Like none of these

514
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: teams that the Lakers. I know that you mentioned that

515
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: there's a soft schedule, but none of these teams are

516
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: looking at the Lakers, outside of maybe like the bottom

517
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: five teams, Like they're not looking at the Lakers as like,

518
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: oh you know what, you know, we're just gonna lose,

519
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna try. Like every single one of

520
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: these teams probably believes that they can be the Lakers

521
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 1: um and they want to make a name for themselves

522
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: doing it. So I think it's good because I would

523
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: love to see more opposing players talk trash Lebron and

524
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: talk trash d D because if they think that they're

525
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: going to coast through the regular season, I don't think

526
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. And so that's that's that's what

527
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see how they respond. Yeah, that's a

528
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: really good point, and and that's kind of what I

529
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: like about it, is like these games are going to

530
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: be close, and that's good because if you look in

531
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: previous seasons, they run into these stretches of their schedule

532
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: and they developed bad habits, you know what I mean.

533
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: These would be the parts of the schedule where they

534
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: get worse, and then they'd run into a good team

535
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: and they'd be like running into a freight train. Um.

536
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because earlier tonight so many people

537
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: were talking about how bad Brooklyn looked, and I noticed

538
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: in that first game against Milwaukee that it seemed really

539
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: clear to me right up front that Milwaukee was attacking

540
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: that game with a playoff intensity. Meanwhile, if you watched

541
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: um Brooklyn, they looked like they were kind of easing

542
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: their way into it, you know, and then they got

543
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: the butts kicked and they fought back and tried to

544
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: get back into it, just wasn't one enough. And then

545
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: again tonight, same kind of deal on the road in Philly.

546
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: You know, Brooklyn, still kind of easing their way into things,

547
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: and then like they get that there, find themselves down,

548
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, ten fifteen points throughout the game. Finally they're

549
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: competitive nature kicked in, you know, right around that, I

550
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: think it was that first time out of the fourth quarter,

551
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: and they locked in and they were talented enough to

552
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: overcome it because they weren't in that big of a deficit.

553
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: That's kind of what happened for the Lakers tonight. They

554
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: were just down by thirty. You know, it was just

555
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: it was just too much for them to overcome. But

556
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: the point is is like there was a clear difference

557
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: in the overall intensity and focus and competitiveness and willingness

558
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: to do what it takes to win between what the

559
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Warriors were doing and what the Suns were doing and

560
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: what the Lakers were doing, and that gap needed to

561
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: be bridged. And and even though it didn't amount to

562
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: win tonight, like as we're always going to talk about

563
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: with these regular season games and you play eighty two,

564
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: of them were more concerned about process, were more concerned

565
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: about what translates to the playoffs. The Lakers if they're

566
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: if they're seven in two after this stretch and they

567
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: go into Milwaukee and they are going to Portland I

568
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: think is the one after that, and they go into

569
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Portland and they beat Portland's and they're eight and two,

570
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: they will completely erase what happened in this week. No

571
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: one will care. No one's going to care about them.

572
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Jay Crowder clowning them, No one's gonna care about you know,

573
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: CP three literally turning Anthony Davis into a barbecue chicken legs, Like,

574
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: no one's gonna care because they'll be eight and two

575
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: and they will have just won a big game on

576
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: the road. That's the way the NBA regular season works.

577
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: They just need to kick that like they're like a

578
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: rusty engine right now that's trying to get going to

579
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: get you know what I mean? Yeah, no, that that

580
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: makes sense. So I'm with you I think process. I

581
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: think the regular season, especially when you have this many people, uh,

582
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: new faces to the roster and stuff like that, that's

583
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: that it is a process to get them integrated, figure

584
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: things out and whatnot. And so obviously most of the

585
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: conversation and the thought process has been around how Russell

586
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Westbrook's going to integrate with the Lakers. Um. He wasn't

587
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: that great the first game. He was much better this game.

588
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: I thought he didn't try to force too much. But

589
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, he miss lamps and stuff like I that's

590
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: the typical brick vick threes um that sort of stuff.

591
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: But he looked he looked good overall, kind of doing

592
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: the Russ stuff that he does, setting up plays, putting

593
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: pressure on the rim. But what what is the incremental thing?

594
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: What is the thing that you need if you had

595
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: to make a list of small things, right and just

596
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: small things. Not not just change the lineup because that

597
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: everybody's screaming for that already. You know that did not

598
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: not play two bigs. But what is the small process

599
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: thing that you want to see this Lakers team start

600
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: doing that they have not done or or you know,

601
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: maybe they did a little bit of at this time,

602
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: but they need to carry it over into the next game.

603
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: It's a really good question. Um, I would say pick

604
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: and roll defense. So and in two on two fascetts, So,

605
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, you you kind of mentioned DeAndre Jordan earlier,

606
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: like being uh, it might have been you who mentioned

607
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: this on Twitter, but it might have been someone else.

608
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: I apologize if I'm crediting the wrong person here, but

609
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: there there's a difference between being in a drop coverage

610
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: and being active in a drop coverage. And DeAndre Jordan

611
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: has a tendency in those pick and roll coverages to

612
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: just stand there with his hands out by his side

613
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, if you drive right into him like

614
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: an idiot, that he's gonna he's gonna bother you. But

615
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: but if you but like if you as far as

616
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: where you're at there, in that little pocket of space

617
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: there between the guy who's still caught on the screen

618
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: and in the four or five ft between you and

619
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's you're extremely comfortable as the ball handler. And

620
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that I'd like to

621
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: see is just more activity from that drop that drop

622
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: coverage man to at least force him to uh force

623
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: the guard to to continue to penetrate and and and

624
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: possibly do something that he doesn't want to do instead

625
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: of something that he's comfortable doing, you know what I mean.

626
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Like Kawhi Leonard is one of the best in the

627
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: world at this, Like he will not let you dribble

628
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: comfortably outside of outside on the permiter. He's always going

629
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: to be up in you trying to make you make

630
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: a decision that you don't want to make, you know

631
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's what that's what all of

632
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: the pick and roll defenders on the Lakers need to

633
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: do at the at the at the big position, and

634
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: then the guards just need to do a better job

635
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: of chasing over the top. Right now, Russ I thought

636
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job in the first half of

637
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: this base has done a pretty good job all season

638
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: so far of this. But almost everyone else on the roster,

639
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: especially Rondo, especially in the league Monk, those guys are

640
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: getting caught too much on that kind of thing, and

641
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: that's something that they can get better at, even just

642
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: incrementally over the course of the season to make that

643
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: coverage work. If that makes sense. No, I think you're

644
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: absolutely right. You know, the leaguers probably last season, Yeah,

645
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: I would say last regular season with gasol Um and

646
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: then eight in spots and then obviously the first season

647
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: with Javail and Dwight in that in that position, Like

648
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: they had very very consistent coverage I would say against

649
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: the at least from the big from pick and roll,

650
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: like JaVale was one of those guys where he would

651
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: just straight up run up and and just basically hedge

652
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: whoever was coming off of the screen because he knew

653
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: he was so long. Even if you beat him off

654
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the hip, he would still try to get to your shot.

655
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes it would result in um I think he used

656
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: to get called for goaltends a lot because of it,

657
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: because he used to kind of miss time some of

658
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: those blocks, or he'd be a little bit too late

659
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: game into the blox. But he it was always consistent, right,

660
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: so you always knew what javal was going to do.

661
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: So the rest of his teammates knew that, all right,

662
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: either JaVale is gonna, you know, make sure this guy

663
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: doesn't turn in the corner, or if he does, he's

664
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna go for this block. So I I know where

665
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: I need to be, um do I former Defensive Player

666
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: of the Year. He know, like he's also much much better. Right,

667
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: he can stay, he can stand in an open space

668
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: against a lot of ball handlers and still you know,

669
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: kind of hold his own as they're coming off off

670
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: the pick and roll. I think you're absolutely right. I

671
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: think DeAndre when he's put in this position, when he's

672
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: put in that position, he does exactly what you're describing,

673
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: which is he just kind of stands in the middle

674
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: of no man's lines. So he's not in position to

675
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, reflecting out of you, and he's not in

676
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: position to block a shot or challenge a shot with

677
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: enough authority. So I agree with you. I think that

678
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: should be a small process thing that that that should

679
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: improve Um. One of the process things that I would

680
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: like to see, uh short of improved, is um better

681
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: better guard rebounding, like like Rust grabbed a couple of rebounds.

682
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: But one of the things that I think I was

683
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: a little happy about where I was happy to see

684
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: is Um. You know, when they played League Monk today,

685
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: like he was in jumping into traffic and grabbing some

686
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: rebounds and then he would push it out on the break.

687
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Um when they did when he had his first shift

688
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: after after at the very beginning of the game, and

689
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: some of some of them. You know, like the shot

690
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: quality was pretty good. Uh, you know, the guys that

691
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: he was setting up. He has a little bit of

692
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: an issue sometimes with like tunnel vision, like he kind

693
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: of misses guys that are already standing and waiting. Um,

694
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: but that's okay because he's kind of still learning, uh

695
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: as the process goes. But like, um, if the Lakers

696
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: are gonna play two big, so those two bigs aren't

697
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: going to come out to like the mid range area

698
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: to rebound the ball or the long too area to

699
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: rebound the ball, and there needs to be better rebounding

700
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: from that standpoint because you know, like if they're not.

701
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: If if you're gonna scare teams away from taking shots

702
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: at the rim, that's fine, but then you can't also

703
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: let them get the long rebounds if you're forcing them

704
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: into into you know, threes and jumpers. So that kind

705
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: of stuff has to be cleaned up or else, like

706
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: the second chance opportunities will eventually catch up to them. Um,

707
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: what do you what do you what do you think

708
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: about that? Do you think agree? You know who used

709
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: to be really good at that was caseyp If you

710
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: don't remember he used to do he always understood like

711
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: the value of the defensive rebound. Uh, and understanding that

712
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: the possession is worthless if you can't get insecure the

713
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: rebound after it's way more valuable than the transition attempt.

714
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Um, And I actually thought I'm

715
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: glad you pointed out Molie because I actually thought Molie

716
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: looked pretty good tonight. Um. He stopped a nub Or

717
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: transition play where Chris Paul kind of had a steam

718
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: had a scheme and he forced him into a fade away.

719
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: He's actually blown up I think four fast breaks already

720
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: this season, which is kind of wild for a thin,

721
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: wiry six ft three guard. Another guy who used to

722
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: do a really good job of what you're talking about

723
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: is Kyle Kuzma. Kyle Kuzma used to do really good

724
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: job of coming flying in from out of the play

725
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: to help secure the defensive rebound. I'm with you, that's

726
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: definitely something that can be incrementally approved improved. Um kind

727
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: of along the same vein in terms of like something

728
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: that is strategically kind of drives me insane. And I

729
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: want to see if you agree with this, So like again,

730
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: Chris Paul gets you on the screen, gets you on

731
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: a switch. And so let's say it's you know, uh,

732
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis for instance, because I think he made at

733
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: least what three or four pull up long twos over

734
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. So on those plays, Anthony Davis is kind

735
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: of like crawling him, you know what I mean, Like

736
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: like I kind of had him where I want him

737
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: on the or I'm taking away the rim he's not

738
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: getting by me, and so on the surface, it looks

739
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: like good defense, right and then and then Chris Paul

740
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: takes the fade away and you think, oh, like Anthony

741
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: Davis did his job. He made he made Chris Paul

742
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: take a tough fade away and his hand was right there,

743
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: just just went in like I gotta shake the guy's hand.

744
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: And my opinion on that is like Chris Paul wants that,

745
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: he wants that shot. All he's doing on those weird

746
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: corral dribbles is he's just getting his rhythm and getting

747
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: to the point where he feels comfortable. And my thing,

748
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to what I was talking

749
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: about with Kawhi Leonard. There was a there was a

750
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: famous game like years ago. I don't know if you

751
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: guys remember I think it was Katie's last game in

752
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: the last season in Golden State where he was in

753
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: Toronto on the road and Golden State was down three

754
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: coming out of the time out and Kevin Durant was

755
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: bringing the ball up the floor and and kau I

756
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: just jumped in and and made instead of letting him

757
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: get comfortable, because you know, you always think of Katie

758
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: taking that pull up three over Lebron, right, Like one

759
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: of the critical mistakes Lebron made there is, yeah, you

760
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 1: contested the shot, Yeah you made Katie take a pull

761
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: up three, but that's the shot Katie wanted and he

762
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: was comfortable, And so you have to at a certain

763
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: point strategically, you gotta jump in and yeah, he might

764
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: beat you off the dribble, but if he beats you

765
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: off the dribble, first of all, he didn't want to

766
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: do that on that play. He wanted his jump shots.

767
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: So now he's he's adapting on the fly. Secondly, you

768
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: put yourself in a position where your health defenders can

769
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: be there and maybe you can rotate your way out

770
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: of it. But just strategically, something I'd like to see teams,

771
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: all teams do a better job of it is like

772
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: when they get the switch and they're doing all those

773
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: rhythm dribbles. You you can't just let them do that

774
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: because they've won the possession at that point. At a

775
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: certain point, you've got to jump the person and make

776
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: them do something else, even if it's what seems like

777
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: a high percentage play, just because it's not what they

778
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: want to do and they're uncomfortable, it might give you

779
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: a better chance of success, especially when they already have

780
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: the rhythm. Like you said, Chris Paul got his rhythm

781
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: at the free throw line and built his confidence and

782
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: he rode that into making a bunch of contested jump shots.

783
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: On the surface, it looks like good defense, but in reality,

784
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: Chris Paul was comfortable and he was getting exactly what

785
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: he wanted. Yeah, Chris Paul's old ass, that's what he

786
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: wants to do, Like he wants to like he's old, Like, well,

787
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: why do you think Lebron when he was like for

788
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: the past couple of years, Like he keeps looking down

789
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: at his hand, like there's a rhythm, there's a motion

790
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: that these old guys get into because that's what they're

791
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: most comfortable with. And Chris Paul's old ass was trying

792
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: to do that all through the playoffs, and then once

793
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: he ran into the box, Drew Holiday said all right,

794
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: we're not doing this. We're not doing this anymore, and

795
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: he started pressing him from like three quarters of the quarter.

796
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: He had Chris Paul dribbling backwards for like six of

797
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: those games, Like he said, I'm not gonna let you

798
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: get into rhythm. So what it forced them to do

799
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: was and you know, obviously this is this is the

800
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: Buck series. This is different because you you game plan differently.

801
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: Lakers may not game plan the same way because it's

802
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: a regular season obviously, but it's when you when you

803
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: press the ball handler, uh and from half court and

804
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: you don't let him get comfortable and dictate which where

805
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: are the screens coming up? Us like the screen the

806
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: defense dictates where the screen comes from. So now deal

807
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: and has to set that screen way above the three

808
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: point line. So now, maybe DeAndre Jordan is not kind

809
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: of confused as to what, you know, what he's supposed

810
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: to do. He's not standing in no man's land or uh,

811
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, the a D or whoever whoever the guard is. Sorry,

812
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: he can recover or switch or whatever that has to happen.

813
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: But if you're just letting them dribble around and do

814
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do, like they're just gonna pick

815
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: their spots, you know, like Devin Booker is just gonna

816
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: dribble right to the free throw line like he likes to,

817
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: and he's gonna pull up right and he doesn't like

818
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: going left. Like Booker doesn't like going left, Chris Paul

819
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: doesn't like going left, like neither of them like to

820
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: go left. That's something that the Clippers scouted out in

821
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, Like if you force them to

822
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 1: go in a certain direction, you can dictate what they're

823
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, what decision that they're going to make. And again,

824
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: like I said, it's just regular season, but you're right,

825
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: like a d is the athlete, Like why are you

826
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: watching this old dude just kind of tell you, you you know,

827
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: dictate what kind of shot he's going to take, Like

828
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: he knows that he's not going to get by you. Uh,

829
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: and if he gets by you, he's probably just gonna

830
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: stop short and try and draw a foul with you

831
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: running into him from behind, because that's what Chris Paul does.

832
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: So it's I think these kind of small things they

833
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: probably get ironed out over the course of the season. Um,

834
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: but you know, you bring up an interesting thing, you know, like,

835
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Chris Paul is shooting that jumper over

836
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. The highlight is going to be shared like

837
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: on Twitter, right, and people are going all Adie that,

838
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: you guys, sure he's the defense player here, blah blah blah,

839
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, And so what what is

840
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: your thought on what a d has looked like? I

841
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: let me as a specifically on the offensive end, but

842
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: what do you think, what does Adie look like to

843
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: you on the offensive end so far through these two games?

844
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: So it's it's ironic, right, because he looked fantastic in

845
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: the opening night game, but the two games sandwiching that

846
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: were two of the worst games he's ever played. I

847
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: think he is four for nineteen against Sacramento and then

848
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't remember his finals stat line from tonight. He

849
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: was like, but it was bad. So the point so, uh,

850
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis tries to build his rhythm in the same

851
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: way that Kuzma tries to build his rhythm. And it's

852
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: something that has always driven me nuts. It's this idea

853
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: that like they go into the game, and they start

854
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: by taking tough shots, and when they start going in,

855
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: it's like it's like you're you're just your s O L.

856
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: You're done. Like even Kyle Kuzma, he makes a couple

857
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: of his tough ones to start the game, he might

858
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: get you know what I mean. But but like with

859
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, it's like a nuclear version of that, right,

860
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: Like he was just unstoppable against Golden State because he

861
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: was making all of those tough, fading, leaning shots in

862
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: the lane. But then when he misses him, when he

863
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: misses him to start the game, there's no easy to

864
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: bounce that balance that out, you know. And one of

865
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: the reasons why Lebron has been so efficient throughout his

866
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: entire rear, he always builds his rhythm with easy ones.

867
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: They're one of the reasons why he's made a bunch

868
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: of threes to start this season. Like you pointed out earlier,

869
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: the shot quality is fantastic. The threes he takes are

870
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: always in rhythm, in balance, uncontested, and then maybe the

871
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: third or fourth one makes might be contested, but at

872
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: that point he already has his rhythm. At that point.

873
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: It's like Chris Paul on those little step back jump shots.

874
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: He's exactly where he wants to be and he's comfortable

875
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: and if that makes sense. So one of the things

876
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: that I'd like to see Anthony Davis doo a better

877
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: job because physically he looks great. I think that's good.

878
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: Although tonight was weirdly reminiscent of game Game one where

879
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: he kind of got physically pushed around a lot by

880
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: eighton Um. There was that the famous one where they

881
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: both got the double technicals there I think it was

882
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: early fourth quarter, but even late third quarter where where

883
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: got the ball deep under the basket and Eton just

884
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: kind of shoved him around and didn't get the no

885
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: call obviously because the rest were letting a lot of

886
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff go. And next thing you know,

887
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: it's fallen out of bound and the balls off of

888
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: him and now he's screaming at eight and he's screaming

889
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: at the rest and it's like, no, man, Like the

890
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: rests are letting this be physical, and you just got

891
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: out physical by the third year center, you know, the

892
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: the you know, the same one that you were talking

893
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: trash to the other night in the preseason. So like

894
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: at a certain point, you know, and some of this

895
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: is on the spacing stuff. It's kind of all tied

896
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: together because I do think it'd be easier for Anthony

897
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: Davis to get easier shots to start the game if

898
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing alongside the under Jordan's But but I

899
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: do get frustrated watching his process of offense. And he's

900
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: so damn talented that it doesn't really affect him that much.

901
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: But I do think that the next level for him

902
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: is consistency, right, Like, the next level for him is

903
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: almost every night looks like that Golden State game, And

904
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: the best way for that to happen is to consistently

905
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: build his rhythm the right way by starting with easy

906
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: stuff and working his way backwards from there. Yeah, so

907
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Um, I was going to I

908
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: was going to riff on the you know, I don't

909
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: know if we're playing on bringing up guests, um, but

910
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: if we don't have time tonight, well guys, we're going

911
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: to do guests on Sunday night after that game. We

912
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: have our we're just doing hard five minute outs for

913
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: dash Radio. So obviously then a ven is a different

914
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: guest and Rog and I've had for a long time,

915
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: so we wanted to kind of give him an opportunity to, uh,

916
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, kind of talk about some stuff that we

917
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: haven't talked about before. But Rog and I will both

918
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: be back Sunday and we'll do guests then. So tonight

919
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna just doven A. But I do appreciate you

920
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: guys for for coming in, and I appreciate you understanding,

921
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: and I hope you'll come back on Sunday and request

922
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: to speak then anyway, go ahead. Yeah, so so you know,

923
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: I I agree with you. You know, I think, um,

924
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: he he's not doing himself any favors UM when it

925
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: comes to having having the second big on the floor.

926
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever going to get good touches

927
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: or he's ever going to get good looks um with

928
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: if IF as long as they continue to run UM

929
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: two bigs to start games, because it's just really really

930
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: hard between asking Russ to attack the rim to collapse

931
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: the paint. Bron You know, Brons look great because he's

932
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: making all these open threes, but it's just like where, now,

933
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: where where do a d S shots come from? Right?

934
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: He's not in the dunker spot. He's either standing in

935
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: the corner. He's not the one who's making the screens

936
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: for Russ, like he's not involved in the offense and

937
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: the way you want, like maybe you run a couple

938
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: of picking pop plays, because you can't run a pick

939
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: and role play with DeAndre, there's going to be a

940
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: second guy available. So it's just there's a lot of stuff.

941
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: I think his offense is suffering because of the two

942
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: bigs and uh, you know, I know there's a tug

943
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: of war on on Twitter about you know, is it Vogel,

944
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: is it a d um, you know, whatever it is.

945
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: I think his offense is suffering the most because of

946
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: it because and and you know, one of the things

947
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: I talked about in the off season, or I was

948
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: kind of trying to mention the offseason, is that if

949
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: the Lakers size down and he plays the five, there's

950
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: more opportunity for him to get more picking pops and

951
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: there's more opportunity for him to get like easy how

952
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: you attempts or you know, one of those rusts collapses

953
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: the paint and kind of drops it off to him

954
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: and he has to kind of finish through somebody like

955
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: something that to to help him get like sort of

956
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: a lather as it relates to what it is maybe

957
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: he gets a couple of quick early fouls so that

958
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: he can get to the free throw line and find

959
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: his jump shot a little bit earlier. Stuff I got.

960
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: It's it's I think, the two big thing. More than

961
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: it's hurting Russ, it's hurting a D because it's allowing

962
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: him to do exactly what you're describing, which is he

963
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: takes a bunch of jump shots which were probably low

964
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: quality jump shots because you know that everybody on defense

965
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: just standing around, everybody offense is just standing around, and

966
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: they're not good quality jump shots. And if he makes him,

967
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: that's great. You know, we get a start like the

968
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: Warriors game where we're like, Wow, Anthony James is back,

969
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: or we get games like or we get games like

970
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: this one where it just doesn't look good, you know.

971
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: And there was a point where I want to say,

972
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: at the beginning game, they ran a pick and roll

973
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: with a D and he did like a pick and

974
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: pop jumper at the free throw line, which he made

975
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: and it looked great. I was like, oh wow, it

976
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: looks like DeAndre Atan is not going to step out

977
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: on these. They should just keep running this over and

978
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: over again. And then they like never ran any and

979
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, like I don't understand, like

980
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: what's going you know, So that that's what I'm trying

981
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: to say, Like it doesn't there's no consistency when you

982
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: have two bigs on the floor, so it hurts your

983
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: offensive players the most. So you're taking away Russell's ability

984
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: to attack, uh you know, get the first step on

985
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: his guy and attack the paint. And now you're also

986
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: making it difficult for a D to do anything with

987
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: the ball. And when it's in his hand, Braun can

988
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: shoot the ship out of the ball. So it's not

989
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: gonna matter. He'll be fine, it won't. It won't be

990
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: a big deal at all. Um. So that I'm my

991
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: concern with a D on the defensive end is not

992
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: just that that big, because I think once his conditioning

993
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: gets there and stuff, I got some of the some

994
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: of the silly stuff that he's getting cooked for and

995
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: it'll go away eventually. My concern is genuinely on the

996
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: offensive end with him, like he has to be he

997
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: has to be good, like we can't. These last two games,

998
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: Lebron has been great, like great to his standard, and

999
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: he's doing in a way that I did not expect

1000
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: him to do, which is was just with the three ball.

1001
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: Like I did not expect Braun to be taking as

1002
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: many threes to start games as he has, but he has,

1003
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: and he's been doing really well. I need a D

1004
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: to build some consistency. And uh, you know, I'm not

1005
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I know the Laker fans probably don't want

1006
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: to see the Lakers start off, you know, like oh

1007
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: and three on four and five. But if that's the

1008
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: way that we get an a D at the five lineup,

1009
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: like I'd rather they lose, because I honestly think that's

1010
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: the only way the Lakers are going to win. Like

1011
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: a D has to be committed to playing that five

1012
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: position at least to start the games. Like flip the rotation,

1013
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: start a D at the five and then go into

1014
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: the two bigs or whatever it is you want to

1015
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: do against opposing benches and end the first quarter. Because

1016
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: a D and Dwight actually have a weird defensive like

1017
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: like craziness to them. That's hard for other teams score on. Right, Yeah,

1018
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: don't don't. Don't start with the two biggs. Jump start

1019
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: your offense by playing a space lineup and then grind

1020
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the game down to a halt against opposing benches, but

1021
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: don't don't do it the other way, because I think

1022
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: when they I think teams have already kind of scouted

1023
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: the Lakers out because Voco hasn't really changed very much

1024
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: of his philosophy, and they kind of know how they

1025
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: want to approach these games. So like, uh, who does

1026
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: Memphis having Memphis has Steven Adams right, like he's a trip. Now,

1027
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: this is three games now, folks, Like, for anybody's listening,

1028
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: we've had Kavan Looney, we have DeAndre, and we've had

1029
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: Steven Adams. If they go with two bigs again, you're

1030
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: going to see very very similar stuff. You're going to

1031
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: see the four guys space it out. So a D

1032
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: can't help help on defense for DeAndre. If DeAndre gets

1033
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: pulled away and you're going to see like the same

1034
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: sort of thing happened, Lebron will probably get really good shots.

1035
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: Russ may look good too as well, But we don't

1036
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: know a version of a D we're gonna get because

1037
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: we're running two bigs. That's that's uh, that's that's probably

1038
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: the one thing that's on my mind more than anything

1039
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: at all. I'm so glad you did such a good

1040
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: job of breaking that down, and I sincerely appreciate that.

1041
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: I first of all, thank you again for hopping on here.

1042
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: I really enjoy having you on when you do have

1043
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: the time for it. You it's such a good job

1044
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: of breaking it down, because it's so you know, my

1045
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: biggest beef with the analytics community has nothing to do

1046
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: with analytics. It has to do with the fact that

1047
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: they kind of disconnect. They try to take away the

1048
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: organic elements of basketball, because there are organic elements of basketball.

1049
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: They're they're they're meaning like, it's not no two shots

1050
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: are the same. It's the easiest way that I could

1051
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: break it down, okay, And it's really the simple. Okay.

1052
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: So I've been playing basketball the vast majority of my life,

1053
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: and and some days when I play, I shoot well,

1054
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: and some days when I play, I don't. Now, you

1055
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: can try to associate that with just luck, but I

1056
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: don't see it that way. It's usually a culmination of

1057
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of factors. Okay. Sometimes it's just somebody who

1058
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: does a really good job guarding me. Sometimes it's bad

1059
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: process on my part. Sometimes it's you know, some Jankee

1060
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: zone that just throws you out of your rhythm. Or

1061
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But the bottom line is, there's like

1062
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: a there's a like a natural organic flow to a

1063
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: basketball game. And the way you start is the is

1064
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: the is always going to be that first step in

1065
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: whatever direction you're going in. You know, like the russ

1066
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: had a horrible, horrible game on on Tuesday night, but

1067
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: it started with a jankee you know, ugly offense type

1068
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: of flow in in in that first stint, with those starters,

1069
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: and I genuinely believe, even if it hurts you with

1070
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: your defensive rating, even if it hurts you in terms

1071
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: of uh rebounding, even if it hurts you in in

1072
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: in a handful of these different even if other teams

1073
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: had more points in the paint, which, by the way,

1074
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: Phoenix absolutely destroyed us in the paint in the first half,

1075
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: despite us playing Deandretan and Dwight Howard and Anthony Davis

1076
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: for large portions of that. So you couldn't tell me

1077
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: that has anything to do with it. But at the

1078
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: end of the day, and you could sacrifice a bunch

1079
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: of those things, but you could tell me that Anthony

1080
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: Davis would be more confident after every one of his

1081
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: first stints. I would take it because At the end

1082
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: of the day, this team goes as far as Lebron

1083
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis take them, and the only way that

1084
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: they will consistently play well, Lebron is gonna be Lebron.

1085
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: Lebron is one of the most consistent players in NBA history.

1086
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: But for Anthony Davis to be consistent, I think it's

1087
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to be with him being at the five

1088
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: because it's the only way for him to inevitably get

1089
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: that organic basketball game flow headed off on the right

1090
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: foot every night because he has, like you said, like

1091
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: you cannot run a pick and roll with Anthony Davis

1092
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: because of the dunker DeAndre Jordan in the dunker spot,

1093
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: So you have to have him spot up and you

1094
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: have to DeAndre Jordan clump and set the screen. What

1095
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: if every action to start the game was Anthony Davis,

1096
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: it was either russan a D or Lebron and Nadi

1097
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: or Russ and a D or Lebron in a D.

1098
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: Chances are he's going to get off the better starts

1099
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: every night. It's and it will inherently lead to better

1100
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: free throw shooting because he feels more confident in himself.

1101
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: It will in early lead to better three point shooting.

1102
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: It will lead to better defense. His defense suffered tonight

1103
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: because he was struggling, and it manifested in other areas

1104
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: of his game. And and and you cannot tell me

1105
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: till that you could present the most amazing list metrics

1106
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: this world has ever seen that breaks down even the

1107
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: most intricate basketball possessions. And you will never be able

1108
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: to tell me that there isn't like a living organism

1109
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: to the way that a basketball game progresses. And that

1110
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: always gets lost in these kinds of things. No, I

1111
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right. I think all this stuff is

1112
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: like incremental stuff. Um, it's all. It all contributes in

1113
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: small ways, you know, more touches for Anthony Davis, more

1114
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: consistent touches in a role for Anthony Davis, like stuff

1115
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: like that, you know, allowing people to slot into the

1116
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: positions that they have. My thing is this, like, what

1117
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: do you have to lose in the regular season if

1118
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: if we're going to step back, if we're going to

1119
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: step back as Laker fans and say that, look, the

1120
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: regular season doesn't matter. It's a process. We have to

1121
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: learn to be the best team that we can and

1122
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: the good habits so that going into the playoffs, were

1123
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: locked in and we know what we are, just like

1124
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: we did two years ago, just like we did last year,

1125
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: which which is why we survived, you know, not having

1126
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: brought any of either. Then what is the harm in

1127
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: doing it now? There's no harm in trying it now.

1128
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: And if it if it fails, if it sucks, then okay,

1129
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: then you go back to the drawing board and you

1130
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: do it different. Yeah exactly, But now we also but

1131
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: now we have two years, two years and two games,

1132
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, or not two full years obviously, but we

1133
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of games of seeing this not work,

1134
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I don't know what

1135
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: more Vocal needs to see or Anthony Davis needs to see,

1136
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: or if it's a wear and tear thing, like look,

1137
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: if Anthony Davis says, look, it's too much wear and

1138
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: tear on my body to play the five, I'm gonna

1139
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: miss possessions, I won't get the defense rebounds, all right,

1140
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: cool man, Like, let's give up more offensive rebounds. We

1141
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: can look at it in film and we can tell

1142
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the guards, and we can tell Lebroun, like,

1143
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: hey help him out, help him rebound the ball and

1144
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that because he can't do it himself. But

1145
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: how do we come to that conclusion if we don't

1146
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: actually see it happened, right, It can't all just be

1147
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: hyd pothetical conversations. And so I'm just curious to see

1148
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: this this this game on Sunday. Um, it's gonna be

1149
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: another traditional five, and I won't be surprised of Vogel

1150
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: plays two bigs yet again. I just I don't know

1151
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, um, because I think it's a

1152
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: little bit of fool's gold some that those lineups kind

1153
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: of start off really well because we kind of see

1154
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: what happens after that. So you know, a lot of

1155
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: this you know conversation has been very critical, but they

1156
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: were definitely you know, small things that that were improving.

1157
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: I think the Monk plus Russ them being kind of

1158
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: active rebounderies in the guard position and pushing out in transition.

1159
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: I think that was really really good stuff and I

1160
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: think it's something that the leaders can build on. I

1161
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: hope that Austin Reeves kid gets more gets more burned,

1162
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: because I actually do like him and how he plays

1163
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. He kind of fits in naturally.

1164
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see Uh, well, we'll eventually get there.

1165
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: There's you and I are both you and are both

1166
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: Laker optimists, and over the course of the season, it's

1167
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: there's a difference between frustration and like actual pessimism. Those

1168
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: are two completely different things, you know, And I would

1169
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: describe what we're feeling as frustration, which is warranted in

1170
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: this case. Um. But anyway, the day, I sincerely appreciate

1171
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: you taking the time to join me tonight, UM means

1172
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot. I hope we will see you many times

1173
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: throughout this season when time permits. And for all of

1174
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: you guys who listen, thank you so much for hanging

1175
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: out over the course of the last hour. Roger will

1176
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: be back on Sunday, and hopefully we can do a

1177
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: show like this after a Lakers win and uh and

1178
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: get you guys up here to talk about something positive

1179
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: instead of something negative. All right, man, that I appreciate,

1180
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: appreciate Stubby and for ROJ hopefully he comes back sober

1181
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: and healthy. And you guys are good. You guys are

1182
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: good to go on Sunday, but you know, I appreciate it, uh,

1183
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: And you know, as as always, you guys continue to

1184
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: do great, great stuff. Where with these post games, so

1185
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: I always enjoy it. Thanks for n H right, everybody,

1186
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: have a good night.