WEBVTT - Prime Time [7] 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.400 The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.440 those of the podcast author or individuals participating in the podcast, 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.520 and do not necessarily represent those of iHeartMedia, How Stuff Works, 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:12.560 or its employees. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:21.920 Zodiac a symbol that now stands for terror in San Francisco. Today, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.320 there was a possibly significant development in the terrifying case 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.639 of the man who calls himself Zodiac and has boasted 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.120 that he is responsible for five murders in the last 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.159 nine months. In Zodiac's latest letter last week, he threatened 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.520 to make a busload of school children his next victims. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.160 Since then, school buses have been discreetly guarded and parents' 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.960 fears have openly risen. This morning, the people of San Francisco, 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.480 during a television conversation program with attorney Melvin bell I, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.880 heard a man who claimed to be Zodiac talking on 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:54.320 the air. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.120 A man asked, robbed, tied, and stabbed them, leaving them 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.160 for dad. Subjects stated, I want to report a murder, 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.360 no a double murder. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.039 I did it a man who. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.600 Wore a medieval style executioner's hood, carried a knife and 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.240 gun and intended to use them. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.040 They haven't arrested me because they can't prove a thing. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.200 I'm not the damn Zodiac. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.840 Who is the Zodiac and where is he from? 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:33.560 iHeartRadio, Houstuff Works and Tenderfoot TV. This is monster the 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:40.160 Zodiac Killer. Fear spread across northern California as the Zodiac's 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.280 pace accelerated. He continued to send letters to newspapers and 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.960 to prove authenticity, he included squares of bloody clothing from 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:53.760 the cab driver's shirt. But apparently letters weren't enough. The 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:58.760 killer craved more attention. In October nineteen sixty nine, Californians 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.080 gathered around their television in anticipation of the Zodiac's on 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.360 air debut. They were desperate to finally hear the voice 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:13.919 of unspeakable evil. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.320 That was the voice of a man who called himself 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.760 the Zodiac Killer. He's talking to attorney Melvin Belli by 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:26.920 phone on a television conversation show. This bizarre situation began 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.440 at two o'clock this morning when the so called Zodiac 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.960 telephone police headquarters. He said he was sick, he needed help, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.240 and he wanted to talk to Attorney Melvin bell I 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:36.359 on television. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.519 The Oakland Police Department contacted Belli that night. Bell I 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.600 was a well known celebrity lawyer whose clients included the 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:48.040 Rolling Stones in Muhammad Ali. With only hours notice, bell 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.440 I came on the Jim Dunbar Show to speak with 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.520 the Zodiac live on TV. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.800 All the scheduled guests were canceled. Bell I waited for 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.520 Zodiac to call on the private line. The phone was 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.720 not tapped. The telephone twelve times. He spoke very little 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.560 with Attorney Belly trying to draw him out that maybe 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.760 he's afraid of being beaten up or something like that. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.080 Now, why don't we just ask Sam to tell us 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.880 a little bit more about what he's feeling right now? 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.079 Tell us about your feeling, Sam, you know, just tell 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.120 us anything you want to. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.919 And then we'll come back and I'll give you a specific. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.040 Answer to this question. And are going to the gas chamber. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:22.160 Talk to us. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.680 Just tell us what's going on inside of you right now? 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:25.200 Sam? 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.520 Please, I have a headache. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.400 How long do you had those headaches? 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.360 Sam? 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:33.560 In a long time? 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.080 I killed a kid. If it all balls down to 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.640 the question that you're giving yourself up, if you could 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.279 be assured that you wouldn't. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:46.000 Get count for the punishment for myself, I want to 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:59.080 kill a kid. Bell I finally arranged to meet Zodiac 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.880 in Daily City, a suburb south of San Francisco, to 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.920 talk in person. So inside the thrift shop Saint Vincent 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.840 de Paul Tourney, Melvin Belli and the San Francisco police 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.200 waited for the Zodiac killer. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.840 We were told to he would lead us at the 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.960 Saint Vincent de Paul Society locks in on Mission Street 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.920 in Daily City. We waited about, I guess over an 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.440 hour and no evidence that he was there. So, yeah, 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.120 is there anything more to this afternoon that leads you 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.360 to believe that the man who called indeed might have 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.680 been the legitimate Zodiac killer? Well again, you know my 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:43.880 opinion on a dime will buy you have a couple 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.320 of coffee. I don't really know. The only thing I 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.680 can conclude, as I'm sure anyone listening might have concluded, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.640 is it's sounded like a fellow who does have a 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.039 pretty serious problem and is pretty seriously disturbed. Whether it's Zodiac, 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:56.440 I don't know. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.320 The man did not show, So now all we can 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.039 do is wait, perhaps for that next phone call from 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.000 the man who calls himself Zodiac, who has killed five 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.159 says he's going to kill again, Dickchmaker, ABC News, San Francisco. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.000 We'll be back with more news. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:27.600 In a moment, police brought in the witnesses who had 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.000 heard the Zodiac speak, Brian Hartnell, the survivor from the 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.160 Lake Barriesa stabbing, and two phone operators who had heard 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.359 the Zodiacs calls. No one knew whether it was the 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:41.919 real Zodiac. The Zodiac had now killed five people, and 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.120 his attacks seemed to be accelerating. Half a year separated 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.880 the first two shootings. Then only three months later was 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:54.000 the Lake Barriessa attack, and then just two weeks after that, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.840 the Zodiac shot cab driver Paul Stein in San Francisco. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.599 The La Times reported that the threat of his next 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.120 crime galvanized one of the most massive manhunts and one 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.920 of the greatest waves of public alarm in San Francisco history. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:14.000 The manhunt extended as far as Atascadero, four hours south 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.839 of San Francisco. There, police checked up on three hundred 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.120 ex inmates of a hospital for the criminally insane, But 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:27.080 despite this intensive search, the case went cold until two 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.919 months later when Melvin Belli, the famous attorney you heard earlier, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.719 received a strange letter The Zodiac had sent a letter 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.760 directly to Belli's home with a piece of the cab 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.520 driver's bloody shirt to prove its authenticity. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.720 Dear Melboyn, this is the Zodiac speaking. I wish you 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.440 a happy Christmas. The one thing I ask of you 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.600 is this, Please help me. I cannot reach out for 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.640 help because of this thing in need. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:54.400 Won't let me. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.159 I am finding it extremely difficult to hold it in check. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.200 I'm afraid I will lose control again and take my 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.680 ninth and possibly tenth victim. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:08.320 Please help me. I am drowning at the moment. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.680 The children are safe from the bomb because it is 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.720 so massive to dig in and the trigger mech requires 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.720 much work to get it adjusted just right. But if 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.320 I hold back too long from number nine, I will 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.240 lose complete all control of myself and set the bomb up. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:24.320 Please help me. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:29.840 I cannot remain in control for much longer, Signed Zodiac. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.560 It seemed like maybe the Zodiac really was reaching out 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.119 to the lawyer to get help, but the letter also 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.360 had his usual threats. He mentioned the bus bombs and 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:47.000 was now claiming eight victims. The Zodiac had included specific 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.640 details about his first five murders in his letters, but 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.400 then he said he would start to disguise his killings, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.600 making them look like routine robberies, killings of anger, or accidents. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.000 Because of this, police were unsure which recent. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.400 Murders might be the Zodiacs. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.720 After attorney Melvin bell I received the Zodiac's letter, he 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.160 published a response in the San Francisco Chronicle. He said 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.080 he was willing to meet the killer any time, any place. 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.000 Bell I said, if you want to meet with me alone, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.400 I will come alone. He continued, I believe he wants 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.880 to stop killing. He knows eventually he will get apprehended, 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.440 and that unless he gets proper legal representation, he will 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.880 most probably be sentenced to die in the gas chamber. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:37.719 Bell I was next contacted by telephone. While bell I 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.600 was out, a man claiming to be the Zodiac called 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.400 and asked to speak with him. Bell I alerted the 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.160 FBI and the San Francisco Police Department. They tapped his 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:51.439 phone so they could trace future calls, and again they waited, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:56.560 hoping the Zodiac would call back. Eventually, another call came. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.800 Police managed to trace the call and detect stives. Tosky 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:05.320 and Armstrong drove out to arrest the Zodiac. They arrived 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:09.800 at a mental hospital. The caller had been a patient, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:16.800 a man named Eric wil He was a hippie and 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.080 an amateur photographer. The detectives determined that while was the 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:25.679 caller to the Jim Dunbar show, but ultimately they also 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.960 ruled him out as a suspect. The voice on the 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:34.960 television call in show was not the Zodiac. Reporters accounts 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.960 about Eric Wylde differ. Some say he was at a 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.280 mental hospital in Oakland, others say it was in Napa, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:45.760 north of Valeo, and it's unclear exactly how the detectives 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:50.560 ruled out Eric Wyle as a suspect. But serial killer 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.280 expert Eric Hakey told us that while there's obviously something 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.160 wrong with them, it's rare for serial killers to be mentally. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:02.800 Ill killers definitely, but they don't have mental illness. When 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.000 you talk about mental illness, we're talking about people who 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:11.400 they hear voices, they hallucinate, their schizophrenic, they're psychotic. That's 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.600 mental illness. We treat people for that, we get them 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.280 medications for it. But then there's another group of people 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.720 who have mental disorder, like serial killers. Now some percent 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:26.160 of them are Claire thinking, but they're they're narcissistic, they're 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.160 they're antisocial, and they have those kinds of issues going 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.760 on with them, but they know right from wrong. In 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.400 a court of law, they would not be found to 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.560 be insane. People get confused. I think, well, look at 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.640 Jeffrey Dahmer. If you killed seventeen people and eighthan for dinner, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.160 you must be insane. Well, the behavior is insane. A 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.720 Dahmer was never mentally ill. He knew right from wrong. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.880 He even admitted he always knew it was wrong to 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.160 do what he was doing. Now, yet there are other 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.679 people who are truly mentally ill when they do these 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.839 types of things. So that always has to be figured out. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.600 And you're looking at a crime scene, is this someone 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.920 who's mentally ill or is this someone who's psychopathic. In 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:09.360 my field, we examine psychopathology. What level of psychopathology would 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.400 the Zodiact be? At one scale that's used or studies 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:16.040 psychopathology goes from zero to forty points. Most people are 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.880 going to be between a four and eight on the scale, 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.640 and then the occasional criminal that does things once in 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.400 a while they're going to rate in the low teens. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.839 But then you get people who are kind of antisocial. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.080 Most people in prisons today are what we call sociopaths. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.600 You know, they probably rate eighteen to twenty nine on 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.840 that scale. They're impulsive, they don't learn from their mistakes, 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.480 they have high recidivism rates and so on. They are 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.400 anti social, but they still love their moms, they still 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:49.760 have emotional attachments to people, whereas a true psychopath, they're 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.319 thirty and above. And these people do not have emotional 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.280 attachments to people. They don't have empathy, they don't have 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.960 a conscience. There aren't that many of them out there, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.840 and a lot of psychopaths. True psychopaths never get caught 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.520 because what differentiates them from sociopaths is that they have 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:10.200 a skill set that's incredible. They can manipulate and lie 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.880 and charm people, and they're so good at their social 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.840 skills that people just don't believe that they could be 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.760 doing anything wrong. And that's a smaller group called those psychopaths. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.880 One of the mist about serial murder is that you 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.480 know they're all psychopaths. Well, this is not true. Only 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.880 twenty five thirty percent were found to be true psychopaths. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.000 Doctor Hickey says the Zodiac is likely a true psychopath. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.880 You're the top of that forty point scale because of 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.400 his self obsession and craving for fame. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.640 Narcissism is one of the traits we see in true psychopaths. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.600 They are quite narcissistic and thus they want to be 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.079 recognized for what they've done. So it is not surprising 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.000 that the Zodiac killer that it's all about him because 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.320 he's smarter than the police, he's smarter than his victims. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.880 He'll never get caught. That's kind of thinking that he's 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.640 better than everybody else, And the fact that he did 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:04.480 get him with it for this long shows that he 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:04.960 was right. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.720 The whole TV call in saga and then subsequent contact 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:28.600 with Melvin Belly was puzzling. Investigators determined the caller to 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.200 both the TV show and to Belly's house was mental 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.359 patient Eric Wyle, and that Wyle couldn't be the Zodiac, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.079 but the actual Zodiac had written to Belly and he 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.960 included a piece of Paulstein's shirt as proof. What was 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.880 going on was the Zodiac's letter a real cry for help. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.040 Had the Zodiac set up the TV call in but 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.480 then Eric Wyle interrupted it, or had Wyle set up 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.120 the call in, and then the Zodiac wrote to Belly 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.160 to try and stir up more media attention. The timing 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.080 of this letter to Belli was interesting. It was mailed 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.440 the day after another California killer's face was plastered on 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:11.760 the cover of Life. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:17.480 Magazine, December nineteenth, nineteen sixty nine. Life Magazine the strange 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.800 story of Charlie Manson and his brood of New Bile 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.400 flower children charged with murder life in a sex and 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.600 drug devoted communal family that lived on the far edge 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:31.280 of society under the absolute, almost mystical domination of Charles Manson. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.520 Manson gave the orders and the family carried them out. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.280 Charlie Manson so disturbed the American millions last week when 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.480 he was charged with sending four dociled girls and a 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.560 hairy male acolyte off to slaughter strangers in two Los 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:52.120 Angeles houses last August. What failure of the human condition 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:56.240 could produce a Charles Manson? What possible aspects of such 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.840 a creature's example could induce sweet faced young women to 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.840 acts of such numbing cruelty. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.120 The Manson story was a media sensation the next day 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.360 when the Zodiac sent his letter to Melvin BELLI was 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.360 he trying to regain the attention he seemed to so 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:19.280 desperately crave. The Manson trial and its press coverage stretched 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.960 on for months, and America was repeatedly shocked by new 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:27.240 revelations about the Manson family, but the Zodiac wasn't willing 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.920 to give up his place on the front page. If 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.680 you pay attention to when the Zodiac sent his letters, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.520 it seems as if for every article published about Manson, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:41.080 the Zodiac responded within days with a new letter, taunting 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.440 police with an ever increasing kill count and demanding the 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.320 press give him the coverage he felt he deserved. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:54.440 April nineteenth, nineteen seventy. San Francisco Examiner cult chief's pal 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:55.080 guilty and. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:16:00.280 Killing April twentieth, nineteen seventy. This is the Zodiac speaking. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.960 Busile A twenty two testify it was Manson who killed Hinman. 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.480 The baby face defendant said, Manson, leader of a nomadic 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.720 hippie style clan, sought twenty thousand dollars from Hinman. Charles 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.040 pulled a sword from behind his leg and stabbed busil At, said, I. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.440 Hope you do not think that I was the one 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.360 who wiped out that blue Mini with a bomb of 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.840 the cop station. Even though I talked about killing school 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.400 children with one, it just wouldn't do to move in 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.600 on someone else's territory. I've killed ten people to date. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.880 April twenty first, nineteen seventy. Gas chamber for a musician. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.680 Slayer April twenty eighth, nineteen seventy. I hope you enjoy 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.200 yourselves when I have my blast. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.640 Boussolet maintained it was Manson who killed Hinman. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.920 If you don't want me to have this blast, you 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.640 must do two things. One tell everyone about the bus 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.760 bomb with all the details. Two, I would like to 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.920 see some nice Zodiac buttons wandering around town. Everyone else 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.280 has these buttons like peace, black power, Melvin EAT's blubber 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.880 cheer me up considerably. If I saw a lot of 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.480 people wearing my button, please know nasty ones like Melvin's. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.520 June twelfth, nineteen seventy. Manson battles with bailiffs. Charles Manson 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.520 fought with three bailiffs trying to force him into his seat, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.479 then was led shouting out of court along with three others, 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.679 charged with murdered conspiracy and the slayings of actress Sharon 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.159 Tate and six others. The women sat down, then jumped 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.760 up again. Miss Krinwinkle raised her arms and addressed newsmen 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.600 seated in the jury section. We gave our lives once before. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.560 Don't you know who we are? You put us on 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.720 the cross once before. Why don't you do it again? 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:43.080 June twenty sixth, nineteen seventy. This is the Zodiac speaking. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.800 I have become very upset with the people of San 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:49.480 fran Bay area. They have not complied with my wishes 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.639 for them to wear some nice Zodiac buttons. I promised 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.399 to punish them if they did not comply by annihilating 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.200 a full school bus, but now school is out for 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.280 the summer, so I punished them in an I shot 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.320 a man sitting in a parked car with a thirty 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.000 eight Zodiac twelve. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.720 San Francisco Police Department zero. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.960 July twenty fourth, nineteen seven. State tells bizarre Tate killing's motive. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.080 Charles Manson hoped to touch off a Negro white blood 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.359 bath in the United States by making it appear that 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.680 blacks had committed the Tate LaBianca murders. Manson, thirty five, 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.640 appeared in court with a red cross slashed on his forehead, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.920 framed by his dangling hair. Manson did it with two 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.119 slashes of a razor blade. Manson has in the past 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.440 called himself Christ and Jesus. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:41.480 July twenty fourth, nineteen seventy. I am rather unhappy because 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.239 you people will not wear some nice Zodiac buttons. So 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.680 I now have a little list, starting with a woman 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.480 and her baby that I gave a rather interesting ride 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.040 for a couple hours one evening a few months back. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:57.119 July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy, Manson wanted race war with 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.080 a Beatles song spinning in his mind, Charles Manson and 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.280 ordered the murders of actress Sharon Tate and six others 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:07.440 in hopes of igniting a black white war. To Manson, 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.760 Helter Skelter, one of the Beatles' songs, meant the black 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.199 man rising up against the white establishment and murdering the 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.359 entire white race. Manson believed the race war would wipe 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.440 out all whites except Manson and his clan, who intended 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:25.440 to escape by going to the desert. Helter Skelter was 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.600 scrawled in blood on a wall at the home of 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.719 two of the victims. The scrawlings and other evidence were 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.320 aimed at making it look like black people had murdered 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:35.639 the five tape victims. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.920 July twenty sixth, nineteen seventy. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.520 Being that you will not wear some nice Zodiac buttons, 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.800 how about wearing some nasty Zodiac buttons. If you do 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.320 not wear any buttons, I shall, on top of everything else, 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.359 torture all thirteen of my slaves that I have waiting 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.159 for me in paradise. Some I shall tie over an 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.120 hills and watch them scream and twitch and squirm. Others 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.760 shall be placed in cages and feds salt beef until 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.880 they are gorged. And then I shall listen to their 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.960 pleas for water, and I shall laugh at them. Others 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.399 will hang by their thumbs and burn in the sun. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.600 Then I will rub them down with deep heat to 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.159 warm them up. And all billiard players, I shall have 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.240 them play in a dark and dungeon cell with crooked 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:21.880 cues and twisted shoes. Yes, I shall have great fun 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.280 inflicting the most delicious of pain to my slaves. San 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.840 Francisco Police Department, zero Zodiac. 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:34.919 Thirteen October twenty seventh, nineteen seven. Witness describes Manson's visions 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:38.600 of racial warfare. Manson had compounded a theory of eminent 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.640 racial strife from the Bible and the Beatles. After the killings, 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.879 whites were to go into the black ghetto and kill 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.199 then the blacks would wipe out the white survivors. But 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.840 after the blacks had won, they would not like the 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:54.560 responsibility of governing and would call Manson and his followers 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.160 from the desert. Houston said he was under the influence 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.840 of LSD in June sixty nine when he met Manson 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.240 in the Sunset Boulevard home of a member of the 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.400 Beach Boys rock group. He asked me if I could 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.080 make love in front of twenty five people, said Postin 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.159 He said he thought Manson was Jesus Christ. 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:20.840 October twenty seventh, nineteen seventy Paradise Slaves by fire, by gun, 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.880 by knife, by rope peek a boo, you are doomed 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:31.720 fourteen boo signed Z. 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.960 Melvin Bellie wasn't the only one to receive a personal 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.719 message from the Zodiac. That last correspondence you heard from 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:44.439 the Zodiac was actually a Halloween card, a black card 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.040 with a dancing skeleton. The writer had used white out 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:52.440 to draw cryptic symbols and thirteen peering eyes. He sent 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.440 it to Paul Avery, a reporter at the San Francisco 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:59.920 Chronicle who'd been covering the Zodiac. Duffy Jennings remembers when 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:01.240 Avery received the card. 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.520 During the course of my a couple of years as 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.600 a copy boy, I got to know all the reporters 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.880 pretty well, and that included Paul Avery. He'd been a 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:13.200 war correspondent in Vietnam and he loved to do crime stuff. 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.520 He kind of took a shine to me and we 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.760 became sort of friends. He was a few years older 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.679 around nineteen seventy. As I started to work as a 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.640 reporter and we became closer friends. I'd go with him 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.920 out following the leads about certain suspects or types of 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:36.840 evidence that would come in. Only one Zodiac letter was 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.359 actually personal to Paul Avery. It was a Halloween card 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:45.200 he sent and had kind of a creepy message to it, peekaboo, 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:46.560 You're doomed, I think it said. 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.400 The two homicide inspectors who were working with the Zodiac 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.520 case came in and tapped me on the shoulder and 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:58.080 pulled me outside and said we received another letter from 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.800 the Zodiac, and it was a to you. It was 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.600 a Halloween card interpreted as being a threat to me. 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.439 At that point, he had been claiming thirteen victims. This 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:13.840 one mentioned fourteen, and the presumption was that either he 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.639 had killed fourteen people at that point and maybe I 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:18.760 was number fifteen, or maybe I was supposed to be 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:19.720 number fourteen. 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:24.520 At that time in the seventies, reporters didn't get killed 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:26.840 in the line of duty. I think maybe in that 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:28.760 whole decade there might have been, up to that point, 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.800 one reporter, a guy named Don Bowles at the Phoenix, 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.720 who had his car blown up by some organized crime 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:39.160 figures he'd been writing about. But otherwise, reporters it wasn't 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.600 an unsafe job. As we talked, there's an assault on 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.760 the media going on, and there's a lot of fear 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.359 of what people might do. But at that time in 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.560