1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,635 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio, looks 2 00:00:21,675 --> 00:00:24,315 Speaker 1: like you can build a couple of new towers and 3 00:00:24,355 --> 00:00:29,635 Speaker 1: an extra mote. At Camelot Morning Consult poll, which Trump 4 00:00:29,675 --> 00:00:32,275 Speaker 1: still led a week ago today forty seven to forty five, 5 00:00:32,835 --> 00:00:37,635 Speaker 1: now shows Vice President Harris ahead forty seven to forty six. 6 00:00:38,315 --> 00:00:40,795 Speaker 1: And yes, it is all within the margin of error. 7 00:00:40,835 --> 00:00:45,875 Speaker 1: And nevertheless, it is a three point swing in one week. 8 00:00:46,555 --> 00:00:51,195 Speaker 1: And just as importantly over the weekend, her net favorability 9 00:00:51,235 --> 00:00:55,395 Speaker 1: score jumped into positive territory in the IPSOS poll, a 10 00:00:55,435 --> 00:00:59,955 Speaker 1: plus one. In the new Morning Consult poll today, fifty 11 00:00:59,995 --> 00:01:03,795 Speaker 1: percent of voters view her favorably, forty six percent unfavorably. 12 00:01:04,075 --> 00:01:07,995 Speaker 1: That is a of plus four. And in our fractured 13 00:01:08,075 --> 00:01:12,875 Speaker 1: time and landscape, that is landslide territory and nothing that 14 00:01:12,955 --> 00:01:16,675 Speaker 1: Biden or Trump ever came close to. And as Morning 15 00:01:16,715 --> 00:01:20,755 Speaker 1: Consult notes, her popularity score swung by twelve points since 16 00:01:20,835 --> 00:01:25,875 Speaker 1: last week, driven mostly by Independence. A week ago, thirty 17 00:01:25,915 --> 00:01:30,275 Speaker 1: one percent of Independence viewed Kamala Harris favorably. It is 18 00:01:30,395 --> 00:01:36,995 Speaker 1: now forty eight percent. Again, Harris is viewed positively by 19 00:01:37,115 --> 00:01:41,195 Speaker 1: half of all voters, and her net score is four 20 00:01:41,835 --> 00:01:45,395 Speaker 1: from the IPSOS poll, Trump is viewed favorably by just 21 00:01:45,515 --> 00:01:50,315 Speaker 1: thirty six percent, and his netscore is minus sixteen. Vance 22 00:01:50,395 --> 00:01:55,195 Speaker 1: is at twenty four percent approval. He's underwater by fifteen. Gurgle, gurgle, 23 00:01:55,355 --> 00:02:00,195 Speaker 1: fascists back to that horse race number forty seven forty 24 00:02:00,195 --> 00:02:03,755 Speaker 1: six Harris. The forty seven percent for Kamala Harris is 25 00:02:03,915 --> 00:02:09,075 Speaker 1: also two points higher than Joe Biden's high water mark 26 00:02:10,115 --> 00:02:14,315 Speaker 1: in the Morning Consult tracking poll dating back to twenty 27 00:02:14,355 --> 00:02:19,675 Speaker 1: twenty two, and the third parties are vanishing only four 28 00:02:19,755 --> 00:02:24,355 Speaker 1: percent total. Looking at Kennedy west Stein or any of 29 00:02:24,355 --> 00:02:28,995 Speaker 1: the other Trump stalking horses, Kamala Harris is also killing 30 00:02:29,035 --> 00:02:33,515 Speaker 1: it in the stodgier polls. Fox surveyed four swing states. 31 00:02:33,555 --> 00:02:36,595 Speaker 1: Harris is up by six in Minnesota. They are tied 32 00:02:36,675 --> 00:02:40,675 Speaker 1: in Michigan and Pennsylvania. She trails by one point in Wisconsin. 33 00:02:40,955 --> 00:02:44,035 Speaker 1: They also got favorability numbers in those states, and Harris's 34 00:02:44,075 --> 00:02:49,435 Speaker 1: averaging forty nine percent favorable there. On July third, the 35 00:02:49,475 --> 00:02:52,395 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal poll right after the debate had it 36 00:02:52,515 --> 00:02:56,195 Speaker 1: Trump forty eight, Biden forty two. The New Wall Street 37 00:02:56,275 --> 00:03:01,355 Speaker 1: Journal poll Trump forty nine, Harris forty seven. Trump marches 38 00:03:01,595 --> 00:03:06,475 Speaker 1: in Atlas Intel, in Harris X in Monkey, those margins 39 00:03:06,515 --> 00:03:08,795 Speaker 1: now down to one or two points. This is during 40 00:03:09,155 --> 00:03:13,675 Speaker 1: Trump's double honeymoon, after the assassination attempt and his convention. 41 00:03:14,595 --> 00:03:20,755 Speaker 1: The Angus Read Poll that is a nonprofit polling outfit 42 00:03:20,835 --> 00:03:25,595 Speaker 1: from Canada hilariously mislabeled in one accounting as the Angus 43 00:03:25,795 --> 00:03:30,075 Speaker 1: Raid Poll. Angus Reid has it Harris forty four to 44 00:03:30,075 --> 00:03:33,755 Speaker 1: forty two. The Race to the White House polling average 45 00:03:33,795 --> 00:03:37,475 Speaker 1: Trump ahead by one and two tenths of a point, 46 00:03:37,995 --> 00:03:43,635 Speaker 1: averaging all poles and just one more number before your 47 00:03:43,715 --> 00:03:51,715 Speaker 1: ears start to bleed. In February. February, IPSOS managed to 48 00:03:51,835 --> 00:03:57,555 Speaker 1: measure party enthusiasm for voting. The Republicans were eighteen points 49 00:03:57,595 --> 00:04:01,995 Speaker 1: ahead of the Democrats in enthusiasm. The Democrats are now 50 00:04:02,115 --> 00:04:08,155 Speaker 1: six points ahead of the Republicans in enthusiasm. Lorrain may 51 00:04:08,235 --> 00:04:11,875 Speaker 1: never fall till after sundown. By eighth, the morning fog 52 00:04:11,995 --> 00:04:16,555 Speaker 1: must disappear. In short, they're simply not a more congenial 53 00:04:16,635 --> 00:04:22,555 Speaker 1: spot for happily. Ever aftering on, here in come a 54 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:30,755 Speaker 1: lot Ulmer Chronkite CBS News. Of course, Trump meant if 55 00:04:30,875 --> 00:04:34,115 Speaker 1: Christians voted for him now, they would not have to 56 00:04:34,235 --> 00:04:37,515 Speaker 1: vote again in twenty twenty eight because he meant there 57 00:04:37,555 --> 00:04:41,795 Speaker 1: wouldn't be elections, or maybe even more likely, because he 58 00:04:41,835 --> 00:04:44,115 Speaker 1: meant there wouldn't be elections in twenty twenty eight that 59 00:04:44,155 --> 00:04:48,435 Speaker 1: he could lose because one he has said this before, 60 00:04:49,475 --> 00:04:53,155 Speaker 1: and two his minions have been actively at work for 61 00:04:53,275 --> 00:04:57,355 Speaker 1: a year now to make him eligible for a third term. 62 00:04:58,155 --> 00:05:01,395 Speaker 1: And three they are anti democracy, and one of the 63 00:05:01,435 --> 00:05:04,115 Speaker 1: principles of being anti democracy is to make sure you 64 00:05:04,155 --> 00:05:09,955 Speaker 1: can't lose whose elections. And most importantly, four, we all 65 00:05:10,075 --> 00:05:14,195 Speaker 1: understand that Trump is running because if he does not 66 00:05:14,355 --> 00:05:17,035 Speaker 1: win the twenty twenty four election and go to the 67 00:05:17,155 --> 00:05:21,155 Speaker 1: White House, he will instead go to prison and he 68 00:05:21,195 --> 00:05:24,595 Speaker 1: will die there. And if that is true in twenty 69 00:05:24,635 --> 00:05:28,395 Speaker 1: twenty four, guess what it would also be true in 70 00:05:28,475 --> 00:05:32,955 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. It would be slightly more difficult to 71 00:05:32,995 --> 00:05:36,395 Speaker 1: prosecute Trump in twenty twenty nine because of statutes of 72 00:05:36,475 --> 00:05:39,875 Speaker 1: limitations and Supreme Court corruption. On the other hand, think 73 00:05:39,875 --> 00:05:42,995 Speaker 1: of all the new crimes Trump has vowed to commit 74 00:05:43,035 --> 00:05:47,755 Speaker 1: between now and then. One of the few realities that 75 00:05:47,835 --> 00:05:52,315 Speaker 1: dementia J Trump still understands is it's the White House 76 00:05:53,195 --> 00:05:58,075 Speaker 1: or the Big House next year or four and a 77 00:05:58,115 --> 00:06:04,835 Speaker 1: half years from now. It is why he's running. The 78 00:06:04,875 --> 00:06:07,755 Speaker 1: translation of what he told the Bible thumpers over the 79 00:06:07,795 --> 00:06:11,955 Speaker 1: weekend is not as complicated as all the fascists and 80 00:06:12,075 --> 00:06:17,395 Speaker 1: sadly as many of us are saying. It is this, Christians, 81 00:06:17,595 --> 00:06:20,115 Speaker 1: vote for me now. I will spend the next four 82 00:06:20,195 --> 00:06:24,355 Speaker 1: years turning the United States into a Christian theocracy, you 83 00:06:24,395 --> 00:06:27,675 Speaker 1: know the way Hitler promised to turn Germany into a 84 00:06:27,755 --> 00:06:31,795 Speaker 1: Christian theocracy. And I will make sure you and I 85 00:06:31,995 --> 00:06:35,315 Speaker 1: can't lose the next election. Either we will fix it 86 00:06:35,355 --> 00:06:38,795 Speaker 1: so that only Christians will be allowed to vote, or 87 00:06:39,795 --> 00:06:43,115 Speaker 1: we just won't bother voting. We just won't bother having 88 00:06:43,155 --> 00:06:46,795 Speaker 1: an election. I'll just stay in power. And to point 89 00:06:46,835 --> 00:06:51,955 Speaker 1: my own successor, JD. Vance, a good Christian who fears God. 90 00:06:53,075 --> 00:06:57,155 Speaker 1: Now he may fear upholstery charges for damaged couches a 91 00:06:57,195 --> 00:07:02,235 Speaker 1: little more, but he also fears God. So listen to 92 00:07:02,315 --> 00:07:07,675 Speaker 1: what Trump said to the Bible thumpers in the context 93 00:07:07,715 --> 00:07:11,555 Speaker 1: of all that if he's not president, he's liable to 94 00:07:11,595 --> 00:07:16,435 Speaker 1: die in prison. Think about that. Think about that in 95 00:07:16,475 --> 00:07:21,115 Speaker 1: the context of the Christian theocratic religious states of America, 96 00:07:21,835 --> 00:07:25,835 Speaker 1: and you'll get it. Clearly. Christians get out and vote. 97 00:07:26,435 --> 00:07:32,555 Speaker 1: Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. 98 00:07:32,715 --> 00:07:35,835 Speaker 1: Four more years. You know what, It'll be fixed. It'll 99 00:07:35,875 --> 00:07:39,555 Speaker 1: be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, My beautiful Christians. 100 00:07:39,595 --> 00:07:42,675 Speaker 1: I love you Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you. 101 00:07:42,715 --> 00:07:45,995 Speaker 1: Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, 102 00:07:46,035 --> 00:07:47,875 Speaker 1: you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed 103 00:07:47,915 --> 00:07:50,595 Speaker 1: so good, you're not gonna have to. Also, he did 104 00:07:50,635 --> 00:07:54,915 Speaker 1: not say he wasn't a Christian. He said, I'm a Christian. 105 00:07:55,675 --> 00:07:58,875 Speaker 1: But his neurological problems are beginning to migrate more deeply 106 00:07:58,875 --> 00:08:04,115 Speaker 1: into his speech center, and that's the result what he's 107 00:08:04,195 --> 00:08:06,875 Speaker 1: going to tell bunch of Christians he's not a Christian. 108 00:08:07,555 --> 00:08:10,275 Speaker 1: I mean, even if that's true, why wouldn't he lie 109 00:08:10,355 --> 00:08:12,795 Speaker 1: to them? Of course, he told them he was a Christian. 110 00:08:13,235 --> 00:08:17,355 Speaker 1: He also told them this whole scenario before. He said 111 00:08:17,355 --> 00:08:20,555 Speaker 1: this exact same thing on the twenty second of June. 112 00:08:20,875 --> 00:08:23,235 Speaker 1: Do you know the power you have? If you would vote, 113 00:08:23,795 --> 00:08:25,435 Speaker 1: it wouldn't even be See, you got to get out 114 00:08:25,475 --> 00:08:28,515 Speaker 1: of vote just this time. I don't care. In four years, 115 00:08:28,515 --> 00:08:32,995 Speaker 1: you don't have to vote, Okay, in four years, don't vote. 116 00:08:33,075 --> 00:08:35,715 Speaker 1: I don't care. By that time, but we'll have it 117 00:08:35,755 --> 00:08:39,155 Speaker 1: all straightened out, so it'll be much different. What's changed 118 00:08:39,275 --> 00:08:43,155 Speaker 1: since that recording on the twenty second of June. Why 119 00:08:43,195 --> 00:08:46,195 Speaker 1: did the newer version of I'll have it all fixed, 120 00:08:46,235 --> 00:08:47,875 Speaker 1: you won't have to vote in twenty twenty eight? Why 121 00:08:47,955 --> 00:08:52,195 Speaker 1: did that hit when the earlier one didn't. Because the 122 00:08:52,275 --> 00:08:55,075 Speaker 1: thing that some of us never saw and others of 123 00:08:55,155 --> 00:09:00,115 Speaker 1: us only saw vaguely, was that modern American political journalism 124 00:09:00,395 --> 00:09:06,035 Speaker 1: really is one hundred percent gotcha Moments used to be 125 00:09:06,755 --> 00:09:10,035 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. When I started, it was still twenty 126 00:09:10,035 --> 00:09:14,315 Speaker 1: five seventy five non gotcha. But the machine now has 127 00:09:14,395 --> 00:09:17,835 Speaker 1: only the one setting. And with President Biden out of 128 00:09:17,835 --> 00:09:20,035 Speaker 1: the race and Vice President Harris not only in a 129 00:09:20,075 --> 00:09:23,195 Speaker 1: honeymoon but cleverly being just one of a chorus of 130 00:09:23,275 --> 00:09:27,395 Speaker 1: Democrats all sticking to one message and one vibe and 131 00:09:27,435 --> 00:09:31,755 Speaker 1: sticking to about three or four catch phrases, the entirety 132 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:36,275 Speaker 1: of the media gotcha machine is now pointed at Trump. 133 00:09:37,675 --> 00:09:40,755 Speaker 1: They all covered that speech about not having to vote. 134 00:09:40,875 --> 00:09:44,235 Speaker 1: They all covered him claiming Harris doesn't like Jewish people 135 00:09:44,275 --> 00:09:46,955 Speaker 1: when her husband and her kids are Jewish. They all 136 00:09:46,995 --> 00:09:49,915 Speaker 1: covered the weirdness of JD Vance. They all covered the 137 00:09:49,995 --> 00:09:54,235 Speaker 1: ubiquity of the word weird. They all covered the uncertainty 138 00:09:54,235 --> 00:09:57,435 Speaker 1: about what hit Trump's ear. They are all covering the 139 00:09:57,475 --> 00:10:01,835 Speaker 1: appointment of Congressman Clay ghost Bus Higgins to the House 140 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:06,475 Speaker 1: Committee to investigate Trump's ear. To some degree, we got 141 00:10:06,515 --> 00:10:12,635 Speaker 1: them to cover the bullet no bullet story belatedly, but successfully. 142 00:10:13,195 --> 00:10:18,595 Speaker 1: Several generations of American reporters and editors no no forms 143 00:10:18,635 --> 00:10:26,075 Speaker 1: of political journalism besides horse races and gotcha moments. Kanala 144 00:10:26,115 --> 00:10:30,075 Speaker 1: Harris has excited the horse race journalists the way a 145 00:10:30,315 --> 00:10:35,075 Speaker 1: divan excites JD. Vance. Oh, we have a new leader, yay. 146 00:10:35,755 --> 00:10:38,955 Speaker 1: And in the absence of Joe Biden doddering, Jay Trump 147 00:10:39,035 --> 00:10:43,875 Speaker 1: is the exclusive national distributor of gotcha moments, like when 148 00:10:43,915 --> 00:10:48,755 Speaker 1: he just proposed having football coaches and stock car race 149 00:10:48,835 --> 00:10:52,835 Speaker 1: team leaders tell the military who to bomb, or he 150 00:10:52,955 --> 00:10:57,075 Speaker 1: otherwise screwed up at his most recent speeches. Roger Pensky 151 00:10:57,235 --> 00:11:01,315 Speaker 1: like a great guy too. Guy won. He won twenty Indianapolis, 152 00:11:01,355 --> 00:11:03,755 Speaker 1: five hundreds. This guy wins all the time. I mean, 153 00:11:03,795 --> 00:11:07,715 Speaker 1: we appreciate. I said, let me use these guys to 154 00:11:07,835 --> 00:11:10,315 Speaker 1: guide our military a little bit. When you can win 155 00:11:10,435 --> 00:11:14,795 Speaker 1: so many races. That's okay. You know you guide same 156 00:11:14,835 --> 00:11:17,475 Speaker 1: thing with coaches. You take some of the greatest football coaches, 157 00:11:17,475 --> 00:11:19,315 Speaker 1: you put them at a table. What do you like, coach? 158 00:11:20,155 --> 00:11:23,395 Speaker 1: Because in its own way, it's not so much really different, 159 00:11:23,875 --> 00:11:29,315 Speaker 1: which is incapable of solving even the solest, smallest problem, 160 00:11:29,675 --> 00:11:32,995 Speaker 1: the simplest of problems, we can no longer solve. We 161 00:11:33,035 --> 00:11:37,155 Speaker 1: can't do anything. We are an institute and a powerful 162 00:11:37,195 --> 00:11:39,995 Speaker 1: death penalty. We will put this on. That means to 163 00:11:40,075 --> 00:11:45,955 Speaker 1: feeding Kamala Harris in a Landslade. Do you remember land Slade? 164 00:11:46,035 --> 00:11:48,795 Speaker 1: Mister Slade, he was one of the characters on the Flintstones. 165 00:11:50,075 --> 00:11:54,435 Speaker 1: He's nuts. So the media robbed of an easy and 166 00:11:54,635 --> 00:11:56,715 Speaker 1: there is no other way to say. This slow moving 167 00:11:56,755 --> 00:12:01,995 Speaker 1: target in Joe Biden, not only has repositioned itself against Trump, 168 00:12:02,515 --> 00:12:06,435 Speaker 1: but it has found Biden's replacement. That's not Vice President Harris. 169 00:12:06,915 --> 00:12:14,195 Speaker 1: Biden's replacement is this psycho jd Vance. My god, this 170 00:12:14,235 --> 00:12:18,315 Speaker 1: guy is like six Sarah Palins standing on each other's shoulders, 171 00:12:18,555 --> 00:12:23,875 Speaker 1: wearing a dan Quail disguise. He wants to control which 172 00:12:23,915 --> 00:12:27,235 Speaker 1: citizens of which states are allowed to travel to other states. 173 00:12:28,235 --> 00:12:32,955 Speaker 1: He has single handedly established cat ladies and cat gentleman. 174 00:12:33,315 --> 00:12:37,475 Speaker 1: As an activated Democratic voting block, he allows people to 175 00:12:37,515 --> 00:12:41,595 Speaker 1: think right, this guy would be one fat burger heartbeat 176 00:12:41,595 --> 00:12:45,595 Speaker 1: away from the presidency. He used to be named James 177 00:12:45,675 --> 00:12:48,595 Speaker 1: Donald Bowman. Then he changed his name to Jimmy Hammill. 178 00:12:48,835 --> 00:12:51,075 Speaker 1: Then he changed his name to J. D. Vance. He 179 00:12:51,195 --> 00:12:53,675 Speaker 1: used to think he was gay, and there's no evidence 180 00:12:53,715 --> 00:12:56,715 Speaker 1: he ever had sectional with a couch But more importantly, 181 00:12:56,755 --> 00:12:58,755 Speaker 1: there's also no evidence that, in two weeks since he 182 00:12:58,795 --> 00:13:01,075 Speaker 1: became the nominee that he's done a damn thing to 183 00:13:01,155 --> 00:13:05,835 Speaker 1: dispel that image. I want to see. I want to 184 00:13:05,875 --> 00:13:09,555 Speaker 1: see what percentage of this country thanks. Jd Vance is 185 00:13:10,715 --> 00:13:13,795 Speaker 1: a couch potato if you get my drift, And I 186 00:13:13,835 --> 00:13:17,835 Speaker 1: want to send everybody who says yes a thank you gift. 187 00:13:18,875 --> 00:13:26,475 Speaker 1: So far, so good. And more seriously, this strange, deeply 188 00:13:26,755 --> 00:13:31,915 Speaker 1: uncomfortable in his own skin weirdo attacked from the far 189 00:13:32,075 --> 00:13:37,595 Speaker 1: right before his selection because he had a Hindu wife 190 00:13:37,875 --> 00:13:42,915 Speaker 1: from San Diego, a Hindu wife from San Diego who 191 00:13:42,955 --> 00:13:47,835 Speaker 1: reportedly hated Trump. He has done nothing to defend her. 192 00:13:49,315 --> 00:13:51,915 Speaker 1: In fact, jd Vance, if that is your real name, 193 00:13:52,475 --> 00:13:55,675 Speaker 1: threw her under the bus, through her under the bus 194 00:13:56,155 --> 00:14:00,475 Speaker 1: on the Megan, how many camera filters are you using today, 195 00:14:00,755 --> 00:14:05,075 Speaker 1: Kelly podcast bus. Look, I love my wife so much. 196 00:14:05,395 --> 00:14:08,155 Speaker 1: I love her because she's who she is. Obviously she's 197 00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:10,355 Speaker 1: not a white person, and we've been acute attacked by 198 00:14:10,355 --> 00:14:14,115 Speaker 1: some white supremacists over that. Obviously she's not a white person. 199 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:19,875 Speaker 1: If you say that without a trace of emotion or 200 00:14:19,955 --> 00:14:25,435 Speaker 1: anger or support or defense, guess what, You're a racist. 201 00:14:27,555 --> 00:14:29,315 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, as David Corn of Mother 202 00:14:29,435 --> 00:14:33,955 Speaker 1: Jones found out, right after Trump's inauguration in twenty seventeen, JD. 203 00:14:34,195 --> 00:14:36,755 Speaker 1: Vance that is your real name, went to the University 204 00:14:36,795 --> 00:14:42,755 Speaker 1: of Chicago and said, some of Trump's voters are racists. Definitely, 205 00:14:42,835 --> 00:14:45,555 Speaker 1: some people who voted for Trump for racists, and they 206 00:14:45,635 --> 00:14:48,435 Speaker 1: voted for him for racist reasons. I don't know how 207 00:14:48,475 --> 00:14:50,955 Speaker 1: many Trump voters are going to hear that and be 208 00:14:51,035 --> 00:14:55,475 Speaker 1: offended by it, and how many are going to say cool. Cool. 209 00:14:55,635 --> 00:14:59,995 Speaker 1: But Vance's problem with racism is based on his remarks 210 00:14:59,995 --> 00:15:04,275 Speaker 1: about his wife. He is a racist who draws some 211 00:15:04,315 --> 00:15:09,235 Speaker 1: sort of excitement from someone who isn't a member of 212 00:15:09,315 --> 00:15:16,115 Speaker 1: his group. In JD's case, his group would be sofas 213 00:15:16,195 --> 00:15:20,595 Speaker 1: couches sets eas Chesterfield's Ottoman's day Beds, Shay's Lounges, and 214 00:15:20,635 --> 00:15:51,835 Speaker 1: of course love Seeds JD. Van's Love seats. Hey remember 215 00:15:51,875 --> 00:15:55,395 Speaker 1: the Tucker Carlson Kevin McCarthy insistences that there were hidden 216 00:15:55,435 --> 00:16:00,355 Speaker 1: truths in the unreleased video from January sixth. First, remember 217 00:16:00,435 --> 00:16:05,595 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson and Kevin McCarthy, Well, they were right. The 218 00:16:05,715 --> 00:16:10,995 Speaker 1: three decade congressional reporter Jamie Dupree with a startling discovery 219 00:16:11,555 --> 00:16:16,315 Speaker 1: no less than Trump's lawyer Kenny the Cheese Ken Chesbrow 220 00:16:16,875 --> 00:16:21,275 Speaker 1: literally caught on tape trying to be the courier for 221 00:16:21,395 --> 00:16:26,635 Speaker 1: the fake elector's documents January fifth, twenty twenty one. I'm 222 00:16:26,635 --> 00:16:29,795 Speaker 1: going to quote liberally from mister Dupree's reporting on his 223 00:16:29,915 --> 00:16:34,715 Speaker 1: latest substack quote. Buried in the thousands of hours of 224 00:16:34,835 --> 00:16:38,315 Speaker 1: US Capital Security tapes being released by House Republicans is 225 00:16:38,475 --> 00:16:43,195 Speaker 1: video evidence of Donald Trump's campaign trying to get slates 226 00:16:43,275 --> 00:16:46,995 Speaker 1: of fake GOP electors to Vice President Mike Pence on 227 00:16:47,075 --> 00:16:51,155 Speaker 1: January fifth, twenty twenty one. The last ditch attempt involved 228 00:16:51,155 --> 00:16:54,955 Speaker 1: Attorney chessbro one of the architects of the fake elector's scheme, 229 00:16:55,355 --> 00:16:59,115 Speaker 1: and G. Michael Brown, the deputy director of election day 230 00:16:59,115 --> 00:17:04,395 Speaker 1: operations for Trump's twenty twenty campaign. Mister dupree continues, with 231 00:17:04,475 --> 00:17:09,275 Speaker 1: fake GOP documents from Michigan and Wisconsin missing in the mail. 232 00:17:10,395 --> 00:17:13,995 Speaker 1: Brown flew to Washington, DC on January fifth with a 233 00:17:14,035 --> 00:17:19,435 Speaker 1: backup copy of fake elector cigtificates for Michigan. The same day, 234 00:17:19,835 --> 00:17:23,075 Speaker 1: bogus elector documents from Wisconsin were carried on a plane 235 00:17:23,195 --> 00:17:26,715 Speaker 1: by a part time gopaid, who gave them to Chesbrow 236 00:17:26,795 --> 00:17:30,395 Speaker 1: outside the Trump Hotel. Chesbrow and Brown then walked to 237 00:17:30,555 --> 00:17:36,195 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill to deliver the envelopes. The US Capitol Police 238 00:17:36,235 --> 00:17:40,915 Speaker 1: security camera system, which stretches far and wide across Capitol Hill, 239 00:17:41,235 --> 00:17:44,715 Speaker 1: first picked up Chesbrow and Brown walking towards the Capitol 240 00:17:44,755 --> 00:17:48,395 Speaker 1: at three forty pm on January fifth. The cameras would 241 00:17:48,475 --> 00:17:51,715 Speaker 1: track the duo for the next twenty five minutes. Chesbrow 242 00:17:51,875 --> 00:17:55,315 Speaker 1: was carrying one set of fake GOP elector documents in 243 00:17:55,355 --> 00:17:59,395 Speaker 1: a familiar Manila oversized business envelope. The other set was 244 00:17:59,435 --> 00:18:03,275 Speaker 1: in a white FedEx envelope. By three point fifty a 245 00:18:03,275 --> 00:18:05,515 Speaker 1: pair of staffers came out side from the office of 246 00:18:05,595 --> 00:18:10,395 Speaker 1: Representative Mike Kelly, Republican of Pennsylvania. That's when the bogus 247 00:18:10,435 --> 00:18:14,155 Speaker 1: GOP elector documents from Michigan and Wisconsin were handed over 248 00:18:14,875 --> 00:18:19,315 Speaker 1: After a short chat. The two aids from Rep. Kelly's office, 249 00:18:19,475 --> 00:18:22,595 Speaker 1: now carrying the envelopes with the fake GOP electric documents, 250 00:18:22,715 --> 00:18:26,075 Speaker 1: headed back through security at the Longworth Building. It was 251 00:18:26,115 --> 00:18:29,475 Speaker 1: their job to deliver the envelopes to Senate officials for 252 00:18:29,675 --> 00:18:33,315 Speaker 1: use at the Joint Session of Congress on January sixth, 253 00:18:33,555 --> 00:18:36,795 Speaker 1: all part of Trump's plan to have Vice President Pence 254 00:18:36,915 --> 00:18:41,195 Speaker 1: overturn the twenty twenty election results to keep Trump in office. 255 00:18:41,275 --> 00:18:45,555 Speaker 1: Outside Brown took a selfie with the US Capital in 256 00:18:45,635 --> 00:18:50,475 Speaker 1: the background to mark the moment Mission accomplished. He wrote 257 00:18:50,555 --> 00:18:56,275 Speaker 1: in a text as an aside, whatever you do, particularly 258 00:18:56,355 --> 00:19:01,595 Speaker 1: if it relates to politics, never ever say mission accomplished. 259 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:07,275 Speaker 1: To resume mister Dupree's account. Back inside, the two staffers 260 00:19:07,275 --> 00:19:11,515 Speaker 1: from the office of Rep. Mike Kelly R. Pennsylvania, carrying 261 00:19:11,595 --> 00:19:15,515 Speaker 1: the two envelopes handed over by Chasbrow and Brown, took 262 00:19:15,555 --> 00:19:19,995 Speaker 1: the underground tunnels over to the US Capitol. Their destination 263 00:19:20,155 --> 00:19:24,275 Speaker 1: was the Office of the Senate Parliamentarian, which was ransacked 264 00:19:24,315 --> 00:19:27,515 Speaker 1: a day later on January sixth by supporters of Donald Trump. 265 00:19:27,995 --> 00:19:31,315 Speaker 1: Security video shows the Aids dropping off the fake elector 266 00:19:31,515 --> 00:19:34,435 Speaker 1: envelopes at four o four pm, but before they could 267 00:19:34,435 --> 00:19:40,155 Speaker 1: get far, Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth McDonough ran around the corner 268 00:19:40,195 --> 00:19:43,395 Speaker 1: to catch the two men. After a short discussion in 269 00:19:43,435 --> 00:19:46,875 Speaker 1: the hallway, the Kelly Aids returned to her office and 270 00:19:46,955 --> 00:19:53,995 Speaker 1: took back the fake elector documents end quote. Those men 271 00:19:54,115 --> 00:19:57,115 Speaker 1: then tried and failed to deliver the fake documents to 272 00:19:57,115 --> 00:19:59,915 Speaker 1: Mike Pence's office. The next day, they would try to 273 00:19:59,955 --> 00:20:03,915 Speaker 1: get them to Pence via Senator Ron Johnson without success. 274 00:20:04,675 --> 00:20:07,915 Speaker 1: Another side here is if you need success, do not 275 00:20:08,115 --> 00:20:15,275 Speaker 1: involve Ron Johnson. I have liberally borrowed, okay stolen mister 276 00:20:15,395 --> 00:20:18,115 Speaker 1: Dupree's work, so I encourage you to go to his 277 00:20:18,235 --> 00:20:22,675 Speaker 1: substack Jamie Duprie dot substack j A m I E 278 00:20:22,875 --> 00:20:28,555 Speaker 1: d U p r ee one word. He has illustrated 279 00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:33,195 Speaker 1: all this with no less than twenty six freeze frames 280 00:20:34,155 --> 00:20:38,435 Speaker 1: from the previously unreleased January sixth video that the Republicans 281 00:20:38,435 --> 00:20:47,555 Speaker 1: were good enough to release. It's marvelous, shure. There's one 282 00:20:47,635 --> 00:20:51,515 Speaker 1: other Trump legal note to leave them laughing with. Trump 283 00:20:51,595 --> 00:20:56,115 Speaker 1: has agreed to do what the FBI calls a victim 284 00:20:56,235 --> 00:21:02,315 Speaker 1: interview about the assassination attempt. This extends Trump's world record. 285 00:21:02,715 --> 00:21:05,795 Speaker 1: He is now agreed to do a victim interview with 286 00:21:05,835 --> 00:21:11,275 Speaker 1: somebody every day since April twenty seventh, nineteen fifty five, 287 00:21:17,195 --> 00:21:20,675 Speaker 1: possibly earlier. Also of interest here, did you know there 288 00:21:20,755 --> 00:21:24,875 Speaker 1: are two Joe Biden's that's right that shortly before the debate, 289 00:21:24,915 --> 00:21:27,835 Speaker 1: the new one who they just built somewhere, but they 290 00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:30,595 Speaker 1: got the blueprints wrong, and he's six foot four instead 291 00:21:30,595 --> 00:21:36,155 Speaker 1: of six feet even deliberately tanked the debate. Deliberately tanked 292 00:21:36,155 --> 00:21:41,115 Speaker 1: the debate so that the Democrats could fulfill their evil 293 00:21:41,235 --> 00:21:46,915 Speaker 1: plan to swap in the obviously more popular Kamala Harris. 294 00:21:47,475 --> 00:21:55,315 Speaker 1: Because this was all a democratic plot involving thousands of US. 295 00:21:55,595 --> 00:22:02,155 Speaker 1: I wish this is actually posited by one of the 296 00:22:02,355 --> 00:22:07,555 Speaker 1: deep thinkers on the loop to tick right. That's next. 297 00:22:08,155 --> 00:22:35,715 Speaker 1: This is Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith Alberman stell 298 00:22:35,755 --> 00:22:37,875 Speaker 1: ahead of us on this edition of Countdown. I was 299 00:22:37,915 --> 00:22:41,195 Speaker 1: waiting to do my annual retweet on this one subject, 300 00:22:41,195 --> 00:22:47,515 Speaker 1: where I take somebody else's celebration and add modestly you're welcome, 301 00:22:48,995 --> 00:22:52,555 Speaker 1: and it suddenly dawned on me they didn't send out 302 00:22:52,595 --> 00:22:57,715 Speaker 1: the tweet this year, celebrating their day the day that 303 00:22:57,955 --> 00:23:03,395 Speaker 1: MSNBC launched July fifteenth, nineteen ninety six. They just missed 304 00:23:03,435 --> 00:23:07,515 Speaker 1: the what twenty eighth anniversary, So I'll have to address 305 00:23:07,595 --> 00:23:11,915 Speaker 1: inexactly the anniversary of the launch of a if I 306 00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:15,395 Speaker 1: may say so, myself rather troubled place that somehow never 307 00:23:15,515 --> 00:23:18,675 Speaker 1: quite lived up to its promise, except perhaps in the 308 00:23:18,755 --> 00:23:23,915 Speaker 1: years two thousand and six through twenty eleven. Along with 309 00:23:24,115 --> 00:23:29,035 Speaker 1: another upcoming anniversary over the weekend. One you may not 310 00:23:29,195 --> 00:23:34,395 Speaker 1: know about the day MSNBC fired Rachel Maddow. That's coming 311 00:23:34,475 --> 00:23:37,355 Speaker 1: up in things I promised not to tell first, there 312 00:23:37,395 --> 00:23:39,835 Speaker 1: are still more idiots to talk about. The daily roundup 313 00:23:39,875 --> 00:23:42,595 Speaker 1: of the mis grants, morons and dunning Kruger effects specimens 314 00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:49,715 Speaker 1: who constitute two days worse persons in the world. Runs 315 00:23:50,435 --> 00:23:57,275 Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Remember Robert F. Kennedy Junior, the 316 00:23:57,395 --> 00:24:01,355 Speaker 1: other crazy old guy in the presidential race who has 317 00:24:01,555 --> 00:24:07,355 Speaker 1: sunk without trace. Where's he been? He's down to six 318 00:24:07,395 --> 00:24:10,155 Speaker 1: percent in the polls. He's now taking nearly all of 319 00:24:10,195 --> 00:24:15,315 Speaker 1: his support away from Trump. My friend Major Garrett just 320 00:24:15,355 --> 00:24:17,875 Speaker 1: interviewed him for CBS, and first of all, I have 321 00:24:17,955 --> 00:24:21,515 Speaker 1: to congratulate Major for finding him, for getting the proof 322 00:24:21,595 --> 00:24:25,355 Speaker 1: of life video done with RFK Jr. And I also 323 00:24:25,435 --> 00:24:28,755 Speaker 1: have to congratulate Major on keeping a straight face throughout 324 00:24:28,755 --> 00:24:33,915 Speaker 1: this interview. As they put it. RFK Junior recently apologized 325 00:24:33,915 --> 00:24:36,115 Speaker 1: to a woman who accused him of sexual assault. When 326 00:24:36,115 --> 00:24:38,835 Speaker 1: asked if he would have to apologize to other women 327 00:24:38,875 --> 00:24:43,075 Speaker 1: from his past, the presidential candidate told Major Garrett, quote, 328 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:47,675 Speaker 1: it's quite passible. I'm seventy years old. I had a 329 00:24:47,795 --> 00:24:53,835 Speaker 1: very rambunctious life. No, no, no, no, that's not rambunctious. 330 00:24:56,675 --> 00:24:59,555 Speaker 1: That's not rambunctious. Legally, that's not rambunctious. If you have 331 00:24:59,635 --> 00:25:06,355 Speaker 1: to apologize to multiple women for sexual assault, that's no 332 00:25:06,435 --> 00:25:16,155 Speaker 1: longer rambunctious. That's Harvey Weinstein or Epstein. That's it. God. 333 00:25:19,355 --> 00:25:21,875 Speaker 1: First of all, something's going on in the Kennedy campaign. 334 00:25:22,155 --> 00:25:27,755 Speaker 1: Instead of campaigning, he has canceled a series of campaign events. 335 00:25:27,475 --> 00:25:30,235 Speaker 1: He met with Trump to discuss dropping out and what 336 00:25:30,315 --> 00:25:35,115 Speaker 1: the price would be for endorsing Trump. He's not seeking donations, 337 00:25:35,555 --> 00:25:38,635 Speaker 1: he's not having fundraising. He's just taking more money from 338 00:25:38,675 --> 00:25:41,515 Speaker 1: that idiot woman he named as his vice president, Nicole 339 00:25:41,755 --> 00:25:47,275 Speaker 1: Ditzehan and he's a joint fundraising committee with the Libertarian Party. 340 00:25:47,635 --> 00:25:51,075 Speaker 1: I mean there has to be a point at which 341 00:25:51,155 --> 00:25:55,395 Speaker 1: Trump bribes Kennedy for his endorsement and his voters. I mean, 342 00:25:55,395 --> 00:25:59,275 Speaker 1: it just has to happen. It's Trump's last play at 343 00:25:59,275 --> 00:26:05,995 Speaker 1: this point. Anyway. Runner up worser Amy vander Steele stupid 344 00:26:06,115 --> 00:26:10,915 Speaker 1: person Trump supporter. I know that's redundant. You may remember 345 00:26:10,955 --> 00:26:14,755 Speaker 1: her vaguely as a Pizzagate believer and disseminator who thus 346 00:26:14,875 --> 00:26:18,595 Speaker 1: decided that because she could see a conspiracy in a 347 00:26:18,675 --> 00:26:22,275 Speaker 1: basement where there was no basement, let alone a conspiracy, 348 00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:26,915 Speaker 1: she was an investigative reporter, because those people think that 349 00:26:27,115 --> 00:26:31,275 Speaker 1: being able to see hallucinations means you're an investigative reporter. 350 00:26:32,915 --> 00:26:34,595 Speaker 1: She also said she was a member of the Trump 351 00:26:34,595 --> 00:26:37,715 Speaker 1: twenty twenty re election campaign board, and Trump milked that 352 00:26:38,075 --> 00:26:42,315 Speaker 1: for about forty days and then finally disavowed her after 353 00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:45,635 Speaker 1: she insisted that there were replicants and body doubles and 354 00:26:45,715 --> 00:26:49,795 Speaker 1: twenty five million undocumented immigrants and they said, this dame 355 00:26:49,995 --> 00:26:54,555 Speaker 1: is two nuts even for us. Well, she now needs 356 00:26:54,635 --> 00:26:58,435 Speaker 1: to use some of her own investigative skills on math. 357 00:26:59,235 --> 00:27:05,355 Speaker 1: Amy vander Steele Kamala tanks Netflix. Netflix may a donation 358 00:27:05,475 --> 00:27:09,235 Speaker 1: to her campaign and the stock tumbles two billion dollars 359 00:27:09,275 --> 00:27:12,435 Speaker 1: in two hours, a forty percent drop in stock price. 360 00:27:12,995 --> 00:27:15,555 Speaker 1: Perhaps this would be a good time for a billionaire 361 00:27:15,595 --> 00:27:19,315 Speaker 1: conservative to come in and buy that liberal loving platform. 362 00:27:19,675 --> 00:27:23,115 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Yeah, it was not. It wasn't. 363 00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:26,755 Speaker 1: It wasn't forty percent. It was zero point four to 364 00:27:26,835 --> 00:27:33,115 Speaker 1: three percent. Netflix, which is worth two hundred and seventy 365 00:27:33,235 --> 00:27:36,835 Speaker 1: billion dollars, dropped two dollars and seventy two cents a share. 366 00:27:38,235 --> 00:27:41,995 Speaker 1: Math is tough when you hallucinate about what the answers 367 00:27:42,075 --> 00:27:49,235 Speaker 1: might be. Three minus two equals Jesus, Yeah, Jesus, you're right, 368 00:27:49,355 --> 00:27:53,075 Speaker 1: but our winner. And speaking of that Bill Mitchell, you 369 00:27:53,155 --> 00:27:57,395 Speaker 1: may remember such films as Bill Mitchell stars on social 370 00:27:57,435 --> 00:28:00,635 Speaker 1: media as the pro Trump guy who suddenly went anti 371 00:28:00,715 --> 00:28:05,555 Speaker 1: Trump and then went pro Trump, and then then pro 372 00:28:06,315 --> 00:28:09,515 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis and then anti Trump and then anti DeSantis 373 00:28:09,515 --> 00:28:11,435 Speaker 1: and then anti Trump and then he left Twitter, and 374 00:28:11,435 --> 00:28:13,995 Speaker 1: then he quit Twitter, and then he deleted his account 375 00:28:13,995 --> 00:28:15,915 Speaker 1: that he put in a new account and he rejoined Twitter. 376 00:28:15,915 --> 00:28:19,955 Speaker 1: Well he's now pro Trump again, but with a twist, 377 00:28:20,115 --> 00:28:26,275 Speaker 1: he's pro Trump because there's been a Biden body double. 378 00:28:26,755 --> 00:28:30,715 Speaker 1: See he thinks Bill, that is, he thinks people don't 379 00:28:30,755 --> 00:28:34,435 Speaker 1: know about photoshop. Bill hasn't even gotten to AI yet. 380 00:28:34,595 --> 00:28:39,875 Speaker 1: Bill's still working with photoshop. He has posted a picture 381 00:28:39,915 --> 00:28:43,035 Speaker 1: that he has captioned twenty twenty four Biden goes for 382 00:28:43,075 --> 00:28:46,115 Speaker 1: a walk with twenty twenty two Biden. There are two 383 00:28:46,155 --> 00:28:48,835 Speaker 1: pictures of Joe Biden. One he's wearing a tan suit. 384 00:28:49,075 --> 00:28:52,995 Speaker 1: This was shot from the middle distance. Superimposed next to 385 00:28:53,075 --> 00:28:56,675 Speaker 1: him is another shot of Joe Biden in a blue 386 00:28:56,755 --> 00:28:59,835 Speaker 1: suit that was shot from closer, so the one in 387 00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:02,795 Speaker 1: the blue suit looks taller than the one in the 388 00:29:02,835 --> 00:29:07,835 Speaker 1: brown suit. Everybody laughed at this. Bill reposted it with 389 00:29:07,875 --> 00:29:11,075 Speaker 1: additional information. The new version of Biden, who is six 390 00:29:11,115 --> 00:29:14,795 Speaker 1: foot four, is lankier and has bigger hands. Clearly a 391 00:29:14,835 --> 00:29:19,755 Speaker 1: fake who took a dive during the debate. All right, 392 00:29:19,795 --> 00:29:25,035 Speaker 1: we've now moved from you think that something done with photoshop? 393 00:29:25,875 --> 00:29:28,115 Speaker 1: That I could do and make a version in which 394 00:29:28,315 --> 00:29:32,115 Speaker 1: there's one Joe Biden who's seventy feet tall, and another 395 00:29:32,195 --> 00:29:35,435 Speaker 1: Joe Biden who's seven feet tall, and another Joe Biden 396 00:29:35,435 --> 00:29:39,075 Speaker 1: who's seven inches tall. I can do that on my 397 00:29:39,275 --> 00:29:43,395 Speaker 1: iPad let alone, on my laptop. We've moved from that 398 00:29:43,675 --> 00:29:48,075 Speaker 1: to you want people to believe that the Joe Biden 399 00:29:48,235 --> 00:29:53,155 Speaker 1: at the debate was clever enough to be a body double, 400 00:29:53,875 --> 00:29:57,715 Speaker 1: to go out there and convince everybody, including Trump, that 401 00:29:57,795 --> 00:30:02,035 Speaker 1: he was deliberately well, convincing that he was not deliberately struggling, 402 00:30:02,235 --> 00:30:05,595 Speaker 1: convincing he was struggling for ninety minutes. It's on the 403 00:30:05,635 --> 00:30:10,755 Speaker 1: biggest stage in the world. And then after everything that followed, 404 00:30:11,075 --> 00:30:14,475 Speaker 1: wait three weeks before you dropped out of the presidential 405 00:30:14,595 --> 00:30:18,515 Speaker 1: race and do this deliberately for some unknown reason that's 406 00:30:18,555 --> 00:30:21,115 Speaker 1: clear only to Bill Mitchell, you're able to do that. 407 00:30:21,635 --> 00:30:24,635 Speaker 1: And instead of getting up in front of a national 408 00:30:24,675 --> 00:30:28,075 Speaker 1: audience on TV and saying I am Joe Biden and 409 00:30:28,115 --> 00:30:30,955 Speaker 1: I am capable of being my own body double, and 410 00:30:31,075 --> 00:30:33,235 Speaker 1: to deliberately make it look like I don't know what 411 00:30:33,275 --> 00:30:36,035 Speaker 1: I'm talking about for ninety minutes so that I can 412 00:30:36,115 --> 00:30:42,075 Speaker 1: drop out three weeks later to bring in Kamala Harris, 413 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:48,715 Speaker 1: I am super Joe Biden, instead of doing that and 414 00:30:48,795 --> 00:30:54,555 Speaker 1: being something approaching I don't know, ten Einstein's in one head, 415 00:30:55,115 --> 00:30:59,075 Speaker 1: I don't know, and earning election unanimously because people would 416 00:30:59,115 --> 00:31:00,835 Speaker 1: then say I'm better vote for this guy. I don't 417 00:31:00,835 --> 00:31:02,835 Speaker 1: know what he's capable of. He's capable of being his 418 00:31:02,835 --> 00:31:06,475 Speaker 1: own body double. Instead of doing that, he dropped out 419 00:31:07,515 --> 00:31:13,995 Speaker 1: three weeks later, Bill, Bill, you realize that if there 420 00:31:13,995 --> 00:31:16,635 Speaker 1: were body doubles, they'd have swapped in a new Trump 421 00:31:16,755 --> 00:31:22,755 Speaker 1: already who was not fat, insane and self destructing, right, Mitchell? 422 00:31:23,035 --> 00:31:29,235 Speaker 1: Two days? Worst person? Or is he in the world 423 00:31:30,235 --> 00:31:49,595 Speaker 1: a body double? Finally, our number one story on the 424 00:31:49,635 --> 00:31:52,355 Speaker 1: Countdown things I promised not to tell and back to 425 00:31:52,435 --> 00:31:57,755 Speaker 1: my favorite topic me well, actually not just me this time. 426 00:31:57,915 --> 00:32:01,275 Speaker 1: This is an important anniversary for an important TV news show, 427 00:32:01,475 --> 00:32:05,315 Speaker 1: and I don't mean one of mine. August third, two 428 00:32:05,395 --> 00:32:08,035 Speaker 1: thousand and seven was near as I can calculate. The 429 00:32:08,115 --> 00:32:12,475 Speaker 1: day I first met Rachel matdow So. August fourth, two 430 00:32:12,475 --> 00:32:15,475 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, fifteen years ago, was when I started 431 00:32:15,475 --> 00:32:19,275 Speaker 1: to push MSNBC to make her a host, specifically the 432 00:32:19,395 --> 00:32:22,235 Speaker 1: guest host for my show, with an eye towards eventually 433 00:32:22,715 --> 00:32:25,555 Speaker 1: getting her to host her own show which would follow mine, 434 00:32:25,875 --> 00:32:31,235 Speaker 1: which happened almost immediately just thirteen months later. On the 435 00:32:31,275 --> 00:32:34,675 Speaker 1: other hand, two years earlier than that first meeting, August eight, 436 00:32:34,835 --> 00:32:38,235 Speaker 1: two thousand and five, was the day MSNBC had cleverly 437 00:32:38,835 --> 00:32:43,195 Speaker 1: fired Rachel Matdow early in two thousand and seven, before 438 00:32:43,275 --> 00:32:46,435 Speaker 1: MSNBC moved to thirty Rockefeller Center in New York from 439 00:32:46,475 --> 00:32:50,315 Speaker 1: the charms of the row of factory outlet discount stores 440 00:32:50,555 --> 00:32:53,075 Speaker 1: in which it had been nestled in in Secaucus, New 441 00:32:53,155 --> 00:32:57,195 Speaker 1: Jersey since its inception. My executive producer Izy Povich had 442 00:32:57,195 --> 00:32:59,595 Speaker 1: walked into my office and asked me if I remembered 443 00:32:59,715 --> 00:33:04,515 Speaker 1: Rachel Mattow. Of course, isn't she on Carlson's I stopped myself. 444 00:33:05,075 --> 00:33:08,715 Speaker 1: She had been a regular panelist on Tucker Carlson's last 445 00:33:08,835 --> 00:33:13,635 Speaker 1: non Nazi TV program, which incongruously aired right after mine 446 00:33:13,675 --> 00:33:18,315 Speaker 1: at nine o'clock on MSNBC. Rick Caplan, then the ex 447 00:33:18,395 --> 00:33:22,155 Speaker 1: president of CNN and shortly to be ex president of MSNBC, 448 00:33:22,555 --> 00:33:26,075 Speaker 1: had first foisted this repulsive scumbag on us and then 449 00:33:26,755 --> 00:33:30,035 Speaker 1: asked me to play his liberal foil in all the 450 00:33:30,155 --> 00:33:34,795 Speaker 1: Carlson pilot shows, which Kaplan then demanded. One night, it 451 00:33:34,915 --> 00:33:38,035 Speaker 1: dawned on Kaplan that if he made me Carlson's co host, 452 00:33:38,515 --> 00:33:43,035 Speaker 1: he could use our initials and title the show TKO. 453 00:33:43,795 --> 00:33:47,915 Speaker 1: And as he pitched me the idea, he could not 454 00:33:48,035 --> 00:33:51,195 Speaker 1: have been happier nor more surprised if he had invented 455 00:33:51,235 --> 00:33:55,995 Speaker 1: the alphabet himself. When I pointed out to Rick Caplan 456 00:33:56,355 --> 00:33:58,355 Speaker 1: that I already had a show, and it already took 457 00:33:58,395 --> 00:34:00,595 Speaker 1: me all goddamn day to do it, and I had 458 00:34:00,635 --> 00:34:03,115 Speaker 1: no desire to add three hours to my schedule, nor 459 00:34:03,195 --> 00:34:05,995 Speaker 1: to ever work with Tucker Carl, he had the new 460 00:34:06,035 --> 00:34:10,035 Speaker 1: show's producer Bill Wolfe search around for other potential liberal foils. 461 00:34:10,355 --> 00:34:14,915 Speaker 1: Wolf found two, our old sports colleague Max Kellerman and 462 00:34:15,035 --> 00:34:20,155 Speaker 1: this Air America radio host Rachel Matdow only as is. 463 00:34:20,235 --> 00:34:22,555 Speaker 1: He asked me that day if I remembered her. Did 464 00:34:22,595 --> 00:34:24,755 Speaker 1: I realize that I had not seen Rachel Mattow in 465 00:34:24,795 --> 00:34:28,075 Speaker 1: our studios recently in New Jersey. Oh, it's well over 466 00:34:28,115 --> 00:34:31,315 Speaker 1: a year, she explained. When Tucker's show started to die 467 00:34:31,395 --> 00:34:33,475 Speaker 1: and they trimmed salary, they had to cut back to 468 00:34:33,675 --> 00:34:38,795 Speaker 1: just one liberal. They kept Max Kellerman. I found that astonishing, 469 00:34:38,835 --> 00:34:41,955 Speaker 1: even though I had only met Rachel maybe three times 470 00:34:41,955 --> 00:34:45,875 Speaker 1: in passing, once at Air America's launch party, and we'd 471 00:34:45,955 --> 00:34:49,955 Speaker 1: interacted superficially for maybe I don't know a minute in total. 472 00:34:51,035 --> 00:34:55,755 Speaker 1: They kept Kellerman over her. Who kept Kellerman I like Max, 473 00:34:55,835 --> 00:35:00,275 Speaker 1: but who would keep Kellerman I Isipovich was not sure. 474 00:35:00,355 --> 00:35:02,355 Speaker 1: We both guessed it was Phil Griffin, who was basically 475 00:35:02,435 --> 00:35:05,715 Speaker 1: running the place anyway. Some but he suggested she would 476 00:35:05,715 --> 00:35:09,635 Speaker 1: make a good guest in almost anything political, and I interrupted, 477 00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:13,675 Speaker 1: Izzie God, yes tonight. Izzy laughed and said I'll go 478 00:35:13,715 --> 00:35:16,075 Speaker 1: book her any segment in particular, and I said we 479 00:35:16,075 --> 00:35:19,595 Speaker 1: should adhere to our usual high and discerning standards. One 480 00:35:19,635 --> 00:35:22,195 Speaker 1: of the segments we haven't booked a guest for yet 481 00:35:22,235 --> 00:35:27,395 Speaker 1: will do. Rachel, of course, was Aeradite's succinct, knowledgeable, compelling, 482 00:35:27,475 --> 00:35:31,515 Speaker 1: self deprecating, and she wasn't another guy. We began to 483 00:35:31,555 --> 00:35:35,195 Speaker 1: book her to talk about pretty much almost anything every week. 484 00:35:35,755 --> 00:35:38,675 Speaker 1: Soon it became twice a week. She also had fun 485 00:35:38,795 --> 00:35:42,995 Speaker 1: on TV without overdoing it. The in house phrase was 486 00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:46,675 Speaker 1: she plays and she played. Despite the fact that we 487 00:35:46,675 --> 00:35:49,355 Speaker 1: were always in different studios, we would either throw her 488 00:35:49,395 --> 00:35:53,075 Speaker 1: into a one camera room called the Nook, literally converted 489 00:35:53,075 --> 00:35:56,715 Speaker 1: from a third floor broom closet at thirty Rock, or 490 00:35:56,715 --> 00:35:59,315 Speaker 1: we would rent some time at an All Networks live 491 00:35:59,395 --> 00:36:02,995 Speaker 1: shot assembly line studio called Media three, which was a 492 00:36:03,035 --> 00:36:06,635 Speaker 1: few blocks further downtown. I would remain on the ever 493 00:36:06,755 --> 00:36:12,835 Speaker 1: increasingly antiquated Lazy Susan set at MSNBC in Jersey, and 494 00:36:12,915 --> 00:36:16,155 Speaker 1: as these appearances started, this was when the love letters 495 00:36:16,195 --> 00:36:18,995 Speaker 1: to her and to us began to show up on 496 00:36:19,035 --> 00:36:22,955 Speaker 1: the website The Daily Coasts. As the ratings rose that 497 00:36:22,995 --> 00:36:26,915 Speaker 1: spring and MSNBC's moved to New York in October, loomed. 498 00:36:26,915 --> 00:36:29,875 Speaker 1: Phil Griffin had offered me a perk as long as 499 00:36:29,875 --> 00:36:33,035 Speaker 1: the viewership totals held. He said, I could skip the 500 00:36:33,075 --> 00:36:36,755 Speaker 1: weary commute to Secaucus on Fridays. I could write the 501 00:36:36,795 --> 00:36:39,915 Speaker 1: show in my apartment on Central Park South. I could 502 00:36:39,915 --> 00:36:43,515 Speaker 1: have an early dinner with my cohabitant, Katie Turr, actually 503 00:36:43,555 --> 00:36:46,355 Speaker 1: in our home. I could walk over to thirty Rock 504 00:36:46,395 --> 00:36:50,555 Speaker 1: at seven pm and do countdown from that aforementioned nook. 505 00:36:51,235 --> 00:36:55,355 Speaker 1: This was balm for my soul until a word came 506 00:36:55,435 --> 00:36:57,715 Speaker 1: down from the office of the Director of News for 507 00:36:57,835 --> 00:37:00,475 Speaker 1: NBC that for some arcane reason, the nook had to 508 00:37:00,515 --> 00:37:03,115 Speaker 1: be rebuilt and it would be out of commission for 509 00:37:03,195 --> 00:37:06,595 Speaker 1: like two months. It was credit Phil Griffin now ponied 510 00:37:06,675 --> 00:37:10,835 Speaker 1: up his offer of Jersey Free Friday continued, and he 511 00:37:10,955 --> 00:37:13,635 Speaker 1: was willing to rent me one of those studios at 512 00:37:13,635 --> 00:37:15,955 Speaker 1: Media three and I could anchor the show from there. 513 00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:19,395 Speaker 1: Thus did it happen that as I breezed in for 514 00:37:19,435 --> 00:37:22,355 Speaker 1: the second week in a row to Media three at 515 00:37:22,395 --> 00:37:25,275 Speaker 1: seven point thirty on Friday, August third, two thousand and seven, 516 00:37:25,315 --> 00:37:28,075 Speaker 1: and made my way to the makeup room, our now 517 00:37:28,275 --> 00:37:32,715 Speaker 1: go to countdown guest Rachel Meadow was already sitting in 518 00:37:32,715 --> 00:37:36,915 Speaker 1: the chair. As mentioned previously, we had met before in passing. 519 00:37:37,235 --> 00:37:39,515 Speaker 1: We had not met since she had become a regular. 520 00:37:39,995 --> 00:37:43,435 Speaker 1: She rose instantly and unnecessarily. And as she did and 521 00:37:43,475 --> 00:37:47,275 Speaker 1: we exchanged pleasantries, I noticed she had one sheet of 522 00:37:47,355 --> 00:37:51,115 Speaker 1: paper in her hand. It had clearly been computer printed. 523 00:37:51,395 --> 00:37:53,395 Speaker 1: There was a line or two of texts at the 524 00:37:53,395 --> 00:37:57,155 Speaker 1: top of the page, then about half a sheet's worth 525 00:37:57,155 --> 00:37:59,835 Speaker 1: of words written by hand, and then there was a 526 00:37:59,875 --> 00:38:03,595 Speaker 1: second line of computer printed text and another half sheet 527 00:38:03,635 --> 00:38:06,035 Speaker 1: of longhand, and the back of the paper had the 528 00:38:06,035 --> 00:38:11,115 Speaker 1: same format. I can read upside down. I mean I 529 00:38:11,115 --> 00:38:13,875 Speaker 1: can read a paper or a book when the paper 530 00:38:13,995 --> 00:38:16,595 Speaker 1: or book is upside down. It's one of my few 531 00:38:16,635 --> 00:38:19,635 Speaker 1: parlor tricks. It took only a few seconds for me 532 00:38:19,715 --> 00:38:23,075 Speaker 1: to realize that the computer printed lines of text were 533 00:38:23,595 --> 00:38:28,115 Speaker 1: the questions I had composed for Rachel's segment that night. Then, 534 00:38:28,235 --> 00:38:31,955 Speaker 1: in her excellent penmanship, what are the answers to those questions? 535 00:38:32,355 --> 00:38:34,995 Speaker 1: It looked for all the world like a high school 536 00:38:35,115 --> 00:38:39,835 Speaker 1: or college short essay exam page four short questions and 537 00:38:39,915 --> 00:38:46,595 Speaker 1: four half page answers. My astonishment was completely organic. What's that? 538 00:38:48,355 --> 00:38:52,475 Speaker 1: Rachel was embarrassed? I just sorry, I just she hid 539 00:38:52,475 --> 00:38:58,275 Speaker 1: the sheet behind her back. I just do some prep 540 00:38:58,315 --> 00:39:00,635 Speaker 1: for the show. It's my prep sheet. I don't read 541 00:39:00,675 --> 00:39:02,355 Speaker 1: from it on the air or anything, but I like 542 00:39:02,435 --> 00:39:04,595 Speaker 1: to write everything down, Longhand, because it helps me organ 543 00:39:04,995 --> 00:39:06,875 Speaker 1: my thoughts, and I like to have it in front 544 00:39:06,875 --> 00:39:09,555 Speaker 1: of me in the studio in case I interrupted her. 545 00:39:09,595 --> 00:39:11,795 Speaker 1: Now and said, in case you freeze or you get 546 00:39:11,835 --> 00:39:15,635 Speaker 1: interrupted or distracted by the idiot host, I pulled from 547 00:39:15,715 --> 00:39:19,395 Speaker 1: my pocket four folded up pages of my own on 548 00:39:19,435 --> 00:39:21,835 Speaker 1: which I had printed handwritten notes for each of the 549 00:39:21,835 --> 00:39:25,115 Speaker 1: scheduled interviews. I said, I find it's writing it by 550 00:39:25,155 --> 00:39:26,875 Speaker 1: hand that really helps here. It's I think it's some 551 00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:30,555 Speaker 1: sort of memory trick. Her gasp of astonishment turned into 552 00:39:30,595 --> 00:39:34,195 Speaker 1: a warm laugh. She and I use the same TV 553 00:39:34,355 --> 00:39:38,795 Speaker 1: shortcut without knowing it. Now, something else popped into my head. 554 00:39:39,355 --> 00:39:42,235 Speaker 1: I said, you do realize you are more prepared for 555 00:39:42,395 --> 00:39:45,715 Speaker 1: your four minute segment than I am for the entire 556 00:39:45,835 --> 00:39:49,475 Speaker 1: damn show. Right? She laughed again, and I waved my 557 00:39:49,555 --> 00:39:52,635 Speaker 1: folded crib notes. You do realize that nobody does this 558 00:39:52,715 --> 00:39:57,195 Speaker 1: except you and me. It's lack of confidence meets paranoia 559 00:39:57,555 --> 00:40:01,675 Speaker 1: meets fear that you'll forget your good lines. I squinted 560 00:40:01,675 --> 00:40:05,115 Speaker 1: at her as the thought came to me, you ever 561 00:40:05,235 --> 00:40:11,075 Speaker 1: thought of hosting one of these shows? Rachel suddenly drew 562 00:40:11,115 --> 00:40:14,635 Speaker 1: her head back, as if evading a right cross. What No, 563 00:40:14,875 --> 00:40:18,115 Speaker 1: I couldn't, I said, we haven't had a good guest 564 00:40:18,155 --> 00:40:21,395 Speaker 1: host in a long time. The makeup artist moved to 565 00:40:21,435 --> 00:40:24,075 Speaker 1: attempt to straighten up my hair. You want to give 566 00:40:24,075 --> 00:40:27,635 Speaker 1: it a try, she seemed to go a little pale. No, 567 00:40:27,915 --> 00:40:32,555 Speaker 1: I don't think so, really, but I don't. How difficult 568 00:40:32,595 --> 00:40:34,275 Speaker 1: could it be if I stepped in here with no 569 00:40:34,395 --> 00:40:37,835 Speaker 1: experience and suddenly I had the most popular liberal news 570 00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:45,035 Speaker 1: show pick Up two? How good you know? I'm tom 571 00:40:45,035 --> 00:40:49,675 Speaker 1: three two to one? How difficult could it be if 572 00:40:49,755 --> 00:40:52,275 Speaker 1: I stepped in here with no experience and suddenly I 573 00:40:52,395 --> 00:40:56,915 Speaker 1: had the most popular liberal news show, And then I 574 00:40:56,955 --> 00:41:00,875 Speaker 1: did it again eight years later? She looked unconvinced. I mean, 575 00:41:00,915 --> 00:41:05,395 Speaker 1: you already do the prep. What worries you? She looked 576 00:41:05,395 --> 00:41:10,475 Speaker 1: away from me and mumbled prompter. I laughed, did you 577 00:41:10,515 --> 00:41:14,955 Speaker 1: say prompter? The prompter? The teleprompter? She looked away again. 578 00:41:16,275 --> 00:41:20,435 Speaker 1: I don't think I could use it. I'm sorry, I said, 579 00:41:20,435 --> 00:41:23,635 Speaker 1: with mock anger. Have you padded your resume? Didn't you 580 00:41:23,635 --> 00:41:26,515 Speaker 1: get one of them Rhodes scholarshipy things? And you go 581 00:41:26,555 --> 00:41:28,875 Speaker 1: over to England to study stuff and you think you 582 00:41:28,875 --> 00:41:32,115 Speaker 1: can't learn how to use a teleprompter. For God's sake, 583 00:41:32,155 --> 00:41:34,275 Speaker 1: I learned to use a teleprompter in ten minutes from 584 00:41:34,315 --> 00:41:37,835 Speaker 1: Stuart fing Varney at CNN. There's nothing to it but practice. 585 00:41:39,115 --> 00:41:42,275 Speaker 1: Rachel was not convinced. I said, get made up, Come 586 00:41:42,315 --> 00:41:45,075 Speaker 1: into the studio, sit with me off camera. I'm just 587 00:41:45,075 --> 00:41:47,595 Speaker 1: sitting in there reading the show off the teleprompter. Watch 588 00:41:47,595 --> 00:41:49,995 Speaker 1: you'll see. Let me ask you this, if you knew 589 00:41:50,035 --> 00:41:53,275 Speaker 1: how to use the teleprompter, if you already knew, would 590 00:41:53,315 --> 00:41:57,155 Speaker 1: you want to try hosting? Her eyes got a little smaller, 591 00:41:57,195 --> 00:42:01,875 Speaker 1: and she seemed nervous, and very quietly, Rachel Maddow said, yes, 592 00:42:03,275 --> 00:42:07,635 Speaker 1: we would travel a million in bureaucratic miles and a 593 00:42:07,795 --> 00:42:11,435 Speaker 1: year together before we actually sat down for prompter school. 594 00:42:12,075 --> 00:42:14,755 Speaker 1: After one of her guest hits on a Monday edition 595 00:42:14,795 --> 00:42:18,675 Speaker 1: of Countdown, she and I and tow their credit countdowns. 596 00:42:18,795 --> 00:42:22,475 Speaker 1: Technical director Brian Nailsnik and much of the crew stayed 597 00:42:22,835 --> 00:42:25,915 Speaker 1: for an extra half an hour. We put two cameras 598 00:42:25,955 --> 00:42:28,515 Speaker 1: and two monitors almost next to each other so she 599 00:42:28,595 --> 00:42:31,715 Speaker 1: could read the prompter along with me, or watch the 600 00:42:31,795 --> 00:42:34,475 Speaker 1: other monitor to see where my eyes were as I 601 00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:37,755 Speaker 1: read from the prompter. And then after a while we 602 00:42:37,835 --> 00:42:40,315 Speaker 1: fixed it so I could read along with her, or 603 00:42:40,355 --> 00:42:42,955 Speaker 1: watch the other monitor to see where her eyes were 604 00:42:43,035 --> 00:42:46,435 Speaker 1: as she read. We read my scripts, we read scripts 605 00:42:46,435 --> 00:42:49,555 Speaker 1: that she had written. I gave her the Tom Snyder 606 00:42:49,635 --> 00:42:54,555 Speaker 1: prompter trick. Okay, here's the Tom Snyder prompter trick. Try 607 00:42:54,595 --> 00:43:01,275 Speaker 1: to see and read entire sentences, not individual words. Focus 608 00:43:01,315 --> 00:43:03,515 Speaker 1: your eyes not on the pain of plastic where the 609 00:43:03,595 --> 00:43:07,355 Speaker 1: words are projected, but focus several inches beyond it, where 610 00:43:07,355 --> 00:43:11,595 Speaker 1: the lens actually is in the camera. I told her tonight, 611 00:43:11,635 --> 00:43:14,275 Speaker 1: this is your freshman year. Tomorrow will be sophomore Wednesday's, 612 00:43:14,315 --> 00:43:18,075 Speaker 1: Junior Thursday, Senior Friday's graduation, and also the homecoming football 613 00:43:18,075 --> 00:43:20,595 Speaker 1: game in grad school and the Alumni Association will be 614 00:43:20,675 --> 00:43:24,355 Speaker 1: hitting you up for your money. On Saturday, Rachel Matdow 615 00:43:24,395 --> 00:43:28,075 Speaker 1: came in every night that week to practice overcoming her 616 00:43:28,075 --> 00:43:33,715 Speaker 1: biggest fear, the teleprompter. I stayed late again on Friday. 617 00:43:34,955 --> 00:43:38,555 Speaker 1: What do you think, Rachel asked me, who cares? I answered, 618 00:43:38,595 --> 00:43:42,155 Speaker 1: what do you think? She straightened her practice script by 619 00:43:42,195 --> 00:43:45,715 Speaker 1: tapping it against the anchored desk like an anchor does, 620 00:43:46,235 --> 00:43:51,075 Speaker 1: and said, I think this is the greatest invention in 621 00:43:51,115 --> 00:44:07,915 Speaker 1: the history of mankind. I've done all the damage I 622 00:44:07,915 --> 00:44:10,675 Speaker 1: can do here. Thank you for listening. Countown musical directors 623 00:44:10,675 --> 00:44:14,475 Speaker 1: Brian Ray and John Phillips Chanel arranged, produced, and performed 624 00:44:15,035 --> 00:44:18,475 Speaker 1: nearly all of our music. Mister Ray on guitars, bass 625 00:44:18,475 --> 00:44:20,795 Speaker 1: and drums, and mister Chanelle on the orchestration and the 626 00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:24,755 Speaker 1: keyboards produced by Tko Brothers. Other music, including some of 627 00:44:24,755 --> 00:44:28,075 Speaker 1: the Beethoven compositions, arranged and performed by the group No 628 00:44:28,155 --> 00:44:32,235 Speaker 1: Horns Allowed. Sports music is the Olderman theme from ESPN two, 629 00:44:32,595 --> 00:44:36,155 Speaker 1: written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN Inc. Our 630 00:44:36,235 --> 00:44:39,515 Speaker 1: satirical and pithy musical comments are by Nancy Faust, the 631 00:44:39,515 --> 00:44:43,475 Speaker 1: best baseball stadium organist ever. My announcer today was also 632 00:44:43,635 --> 00:44:47,675 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. Everything else was pretty much my fault. So 633 00:44:47,715 --> 00:44:49,995 Speaker 1: that's countdown for this the ninety ninth day until the 634 00:44:49,995 --> 00:44:55,315 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four presidential election, the one thousand, three hundredth 635 00:44:55,395 --> 00:45:00,115 Speaker 1: day since convicted felon Donald J. Trump's first attempted coup 636 00:45:00,475 --> 00:45:04,115 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. Use 637 00:45:04,235 --> 00:45:07,755 Speaker 1: the Tember eighteenth sentencing hearing. Use the mental health system. 638 00:45:08,035 --> 00:45:11,875 Speaker 1: You've got it. President Biden used presidential immunity to stop 639 00:45:11,995 --> 00:45:20,995 Speaker 1: him from doing it again, while waste till can also Republicans, 640 00:45:22,075 --> 00:45:26,315 Speaker 1: please stop shooting at Trump. The next schedule countdown is tomorrow. 641 00:45:26,355 --> 00:45:29,115 Speaker 1: Bulletins is the news requires till the next one. I'm 642 00:45:29,155 --> 00:45:33,315 Speaker 1: Keith Olderman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck? 643 00:45:34,355 --> 00:45:43,075 Speaker 1: Or am I a Keith Olderman replicant. Countdown with Keith 644 00:45:43,075 --> 00:45:48,155 Speaker 1: Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 645 00:45:48,315 --> 00:45:52,355 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 646 00:45:52,355 --> 00:45:53,275 Speaker 1: your podcasts.