WEBVTT - Gone Baby Gone - The Deleted Story

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<v Speaker 1>Get in text with technology with tech Stuff from works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tex Stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm also an executive producer at

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<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works, and I love all things tech and

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<v Speaker 1>recently I had a request from a listener. The listener

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<v Speaker 1>asked me about doing an episode about data retrieval. Now, specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>this listener was curious about how you go about retrieving

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<v Speaker 1>data that was marked for deletion, and this curiosity was

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<v Speaker 1>sparked by news stories of various agencies following investigations and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to look for evidence of deleted materials. So the

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<v Speaker 1>listener asked if I might be able to go into

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<v Speaker 1>that without it becoming a political discussion. Right, Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>I completely respect that. I definitely have a very particular

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<v Speaker 1>political philosophy, but I also acknowledge that these sort of

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<v Speaker 1>investigations can happen to any political side of the spectrum. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a specific problem that involves one side or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. Everyone, at some point or another has been

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this kind of stuff. Everyone by that, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean all the major political parties, and that there's always

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of question about an investigation. And then well,

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<v Speaker 1>did they have possession of information and then they willingly

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<v Speaker 1>got rid of that information or they worked to delete it,

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<v Speaker 1>and if so, how do you go about retrieving that?

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<v Speaker 1>So this goes well beyond politics. By the way, politics

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<v Speaker 1>is an obvious example of how this happens. But you

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<v Speaker 1>also hear about these investigations into big corporations that involve

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<v Speaker 1>trying to retrieve data from the void. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>goes back ancient times, really, but if in modern era

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<v Speaker 1>it goes back to before you're talking about hard drives

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<v Speaker 1>and things like shredded documents and stuff. I remember in

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineties early two thousand's when there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stories about this, like if you really want

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<v Speaker 1>a good one, you can read up on en Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>But in that era, when you have an investigation and

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for evidence, what steps do you have to take?

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you're looking at the other way, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a device that's got data on it and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of that device for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>how can you be sure, absolutely certain that your information

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer on that device. That's what we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about today. So what happens when you mark a

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<v Speaker 1>file for deletion? How does that file actually go through

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<v Speaker 1>the deletion process, and to what extent can that file

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<v Speaker 1>then be recovered. Long time listeners of tech stuff may

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<v Speaker 1>remember that I've done an episode similar to this particular

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<v Speaker 1>one in the past, But things have changed a bit

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<v Speaker 1>since that last episode. In fact, the big one would

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<v Speaker 1>be that cloud computing and cloud storage has become a

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<v Speaker 1>major industry and it's really changed the conversation as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because now we have other stuff to worry about, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the the devices that are in your possession, but

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<v Speaker 1>the places where data could exist outside of your control.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does that change things? The answer to that

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot. Well, first, let's talk about what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when you actually delete a file on a device you own.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've decided to free up some space on a

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<v Speaker 1>hard drive on a computer, and I'm talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>physical hard drive here. You're going to delete a folder

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<v Speaker 1>that contains old term papers because you're never going to

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<v Speaker 1>need those again, let's be honest, there's no reason to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them. And what is happening behind the scenes when

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<v Speaker 1>you mark those documents for deletion, Well, the particulars depend

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<v Speaker 1>upon the device you're using. So, for example, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>on a Windows PC, you're following the rules dictated by

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<v Speaker 1>the nt f S file system. Now in t f

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<v Speaker 1>S stands for New Technology File System, I guess that

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<v Speaker 1>means I just said new Technology file system files is

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<v Speaker 1>them kind of like pen number or a t M machine.

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<v Speaker 1>So whoop see daisy on that one, guys. Anyway, when

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<v Speaker 1>you delete a file, the file pops on over to

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<v Speaker 1>the recycle bin or the trash bin, depending upon what

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<v Speaker 1>operating system you're using. But the principle remains the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say pops on over, the file doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually change locations on the hard drive. It's designation changes.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of the file being listed as being inside

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<v Speaker 1>the docks folder, it's being listed in the recycle bin.

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<v Speaker 1>So the physical location of data on your computer is

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<v Speaker 1>not tied directly to its file location. Within a file directory,

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<v Speaker 1>those two things are separate. The file directory gives us

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<v Speaker 1>a very convenient way for human beings to look at

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<v Speaker 1>all the information that's stored on a device, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least all the information that is viewable. Sometimes you have

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<v Speaker 1>hidden files that won't show up in a file directory.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's just for argument's sake, say all the files.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an easy way to organize that so that we

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<v Speaker 1>as human beings can find what we're looking for. If

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<v Speaker 1>it were just a giant storage bend that had data

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<v Speaker 1>kind of haphazardly connected inside of it, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to find anything specific you wanted. So the

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<v Speaker 1>file system is mainly meant as something to let us

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<v Speaker 1>humans access our information more easily. It's not so much

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<v Speaker 1>for the computer. It's for us on the physical side.

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<v Speaker 1>That data could be located next to data that's in

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different file folder, in a totally different section,

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<v Speaker 1>even in a different drive on your computer. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>something to keep in mind. The physical location of your

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<v Speaker 1>data and the files location are not necessarily connected. That's

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<v Speaker 1>important to remember. But the file designation has changed, so

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<v Speaker 1>the associated programs with that file will no longer connect

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<v Speaker 1>to it. By that, I mean, let's say it's a

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<v Speaker 1>word document. I had mentioned term papers earlier, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a term paper. It's a word document. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you used a Microsoft word and you save the document there,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you delete it, it means that the file

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<v Speaker 1>designation changes so that that file is now appearing in

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<v Speaker 1>the recycled bin as opposed to the documents folder and

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<v Speaker 1>you pull up Word and you want to pull up

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<v Speaker 1>that particular document, you can't because it's trying to connect

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<v Speaker 1>to a file that was last in the documents folder.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not where it is anymore. So Word is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to find that anymore. It's it's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>first step to saying this file is gone, but the

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<v Speaker 1>file is not really gone. It's over in that recycle bin.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you could actually open up the recycle bin and

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<v Speaker 1>see the files that are inside of it, assuming you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have your recycle bin set to auto delete as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as something goes into it. Uh. It means that

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<v Speaker 1>you actually have a bit of a safety net, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing, right, because sometimes you might select

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<v Speaker 1>a file to delete and it turns out, whoop, see Daisy,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not mean to actually delete that. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a pick you're of my niece, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it forever and ever. So you could go into

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<v Speaker 1>a recycle bin or a trash bin and restore a file.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of a nice little way to rescue

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<v Speaker 1>something when you you make just a human mistake. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And thankfully it does exist, because I have certainly use

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<v Speaker 1>that more than once where I've realized that I accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>sent the wrong file to delete, and so I go

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<v Speaker 1>into the recycled bin and restore it. But what happens

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<v Speaker 1>if you choose to empty your recycle bin, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>typically something that you are allowed to do. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have it set to automatically empty every certain incremental amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time, or it may just be totally manual, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And which case, it's whenever you go in there, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you hit a certain threshold of data, like if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a certain amount of data in the recycle bin,

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<v Speaker 1>it may auto empty once it hits that threshold. But

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<v Speaker 1>however you choose to do it, what happens when that

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<v Speaker 1>recycle bin is emptied. Is the file totally gone? Then no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not at that point. What happens behind the scenes again,

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<v Speaker 1>is the operating system removes the file name entry from

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<v Speaker 1>the file system. So now you can't even find it

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<v Speaker 1>within the recycle ben. There's no account of it in

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<v Speaker 1>the file system itself. But the physical space on your

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<v Speaker 1>hard drive, because remember we're talking about a physical hard

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<v Speaker 1>drive example here, the physical space that that file occupies

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<v Speaker 1>still has the file in it. It's just that that

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<v Speaker 1>space is marked as being free or freely available, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually still the file, the information, the zeros and ones,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all still right there. They haven't disappeared. So this

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<v Speaker 1>means that the computer is free to write over that

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<v Speaker 1>section of the hard drive space. It doesn't mean it

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<v Speaker 1>will right away, but it could. It might happen immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>or it might happen months later, or it might not

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<v Speaker 1>happen at all. So if you lead a file and

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<v Speaker 1>a few months later you decide to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>your computer, the traces of that file may still be

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<v Speaker 1>on that hard drive. All the deletion means is saying, hey, computer,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need this space to store something, it's totally available,

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<v Speaker 1>so just go ahead and move on in. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime, I'm just gonna hold this old information that's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here because it's not really relevant to anything anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, that free designation only means that the file

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<v Speaker 1>space is available, not that it is actually empty. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you delete a file from your computer and you

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<v Speaker 1>empty the recycled bin, the information will still be on

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<v Speaker 1>the storage device, and as you save more information to

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<v Speaker 1>the computer, the operating system has the option of storing

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<v Speaker 1>that new information by writing over the old info represented

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<v Speaker 1>by the deleted file. At that point, when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a new file in place, you've effectively erased at least

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<v Speaker 1>part of the old information. So let's say we're using

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<v Speaker 1>that term paper example again, and you end up getting

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<v Speaker 1>a game because of course you wanted to free up

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<v Speaker 1>computer space on your computer to install a new game

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<v Speaker 1>on it, right, And when you install it, it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to write the data to the hard drive, and part

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<v Speaker 1>of the the section of the hard drive it writes

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<v Speaker 1>over happens to be part that held that term paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your term paper is a race because the hard

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<v Speaker 1>drive has been altered so that new data is on

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<v Speaker 1>top of what used to be old data, not really

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<v Speaker 1>on top replaces. It replaces the old data, which means

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<v Speaker 1>the old data is gone, or at least part of

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone. You know. It all depends on where in

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<v Speaker 1>the physical space that reallocation happens. So you could have

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit of the term paper left. It would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be meaningless bits at that point because you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have any of the information related to what type

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<v Speaker 1>of file it used to be, but there might still

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<v Speaker 1>be some zeros and ones that used to belong to

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<v Speaker 1>that term paper on that hard drive, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part it would be erased gone because you have

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<v Speaker 1>new information takeing up that same physical space. Now, once

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<v Speaker 1>you've done all this, you won't be able to retrieve

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<v Speaker 1>a deleted file easily. Right once you set that recycle

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<v Speaker 1>bin too empty, the operating system will no longer be

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<v Speaker 1>able to identify that marked file in your system. So

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<v Speaker 1>even though it may physically still exist on the hard drive,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no record of its existence in the software side,

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<v Speaker 1>right like there's no there's no map to that destination anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So the destination may still exist, but you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to get there. This is when you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to bring a device to perhaps a service or use

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<v Speaker 1>special software to search for that information and potentially retrieve it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no guarantee that you're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>retrieve a deleted file, particularly if you've continued to use

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<v Speaker 1>that same device for a good amount of time afterward,

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<v Speaker 1>because that increases the chances that you've overwritten that old information.

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<v Speaker 1>But assuming that you haven't, you could potentially retrieve all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of old data. And uh, again, it all really

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<v Speaker 1>depends on how much use you've got to that machine

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<v Speaker 1>and how frequently you're writing data to it. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not frequent, then there's a better chance that you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to retrieve at least some of that information. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways that's great news, but say you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a computer that had files marked for deletion and later

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<v Speaker 1>on you find out that you actually need those files. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are quick enough, and if you're lucky enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you may be able to retrieve some or potentially even

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<v Speaker 1>all of that data using data retrieval tools. And it

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<v Speaker 1>could also mean that if your computer had suffered some damage.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say that you weren't trying to delete files at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but your computer has suffered damage that has made it

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to access the hard drive. This also means that

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<v Speaker 1>you could potentially take a hard drive to one of

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<v Speaker 1>these data retrieval services and get information that otherwise would

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<v Speaker 1>be inaccessible to you. I'll talk more about that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later in the podcast, because there are some

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<v Speaker 1>really phenomenal stories about data retrieval in extreme circumstances that

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<v Speaker 1>blew my mind when I heard about them. But in

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<v Speaker 1>other ways, this is not such a good thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a bad thing, because if you've brought let's say

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's say you go out and you get a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new computer. You've got an old one that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been using for a while and it's time to upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go out and you buy a new computer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you think, well, what do I do with

0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.600
<v Speaker 1>this old computer? I don't need it, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to use it, so maybe I want to sell it,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe I want to donate it. Well, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that, you're really gonna want to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of any personal information, any data that's sensitive on

0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that machine. You want to get rid of that as

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<v Speaker 1>best you can before you hand it over to someone

0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:49.160
<v Speaker 1>else who could potentially exploit that information. So you may

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<v Speaker 1>want to figure out a way of wiping it off

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<v Speaker 1>for good. And one thing you could do is run

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<v Speaker 1>a third party program or application that will guarantee that

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<v Speaker 1>it will delete all of the info on your machine.

0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.680
<v Speaker 1>It does this, by the way, by not just marking

0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it for deletion, but then writing random data to the drive,

0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:17.679
<v Speaker 1>so just meaningless gibberish. In other words, over all that

0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.240
<v Speaker 1>space that was marked for deletion, typically it maybe the

0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.800
<v Speaker 1>entire drive. Like there are a lot of of options

0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 1>where you know, there's no subtlety here. It's wipe everything others.

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.840
<v Speaker 1>It may be designated parts of a drive, like specific folders.

0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it may be partitions. If you create different partitions

0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of your hard drive, you might be able to target

0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:44.720
<v Speaker 1>a specific partition over others. But my advice is if

0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you're using one of these, just use it with the

0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:51.280
<v Speaker 1>assumption that it's going to hit everything, which means, before

0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you do this, if you have anything on that machine

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to keep, back up your hard drive.

0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I know that seems weird if you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of everything anyway but back it up. You should

0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.120
<v Speaker 1>be backing up your hard drives anyway because stuff goes

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and occasionally you just need to get access to

0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.480
<v Speaker 1>old stuff, and if you don't back it up, it

0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:17.040
<v Speaker 1>can make that much more difficult and expensive. These services

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<v Speaker 1>that do data retrieval can sometimes be pretty costly, depending

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<v Speaker 1>upon how extensive the problem is. So if you do

0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.880
<v Speaker 1>use one of these services to rewrite data over a

0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.520
<v Speaker 1>physical hard drive, it takes time. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a hard drive that uses platters, and that means also

0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.760
<v Speaker 1>that this particular approach creates wear and tear on your device.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me elaborate on that, like how how can

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<v Speaker 1>this actually create wear and tear on a hard drive? Well,

0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the hard drive is the data storage space on a computer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This is your data repository. This is the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>can hold information indefinitely, even after power is cut off

0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to the computer, that it remains there. It is stable

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<v Speaker 1>from between power cycles. So it's not like RAM random

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<v Speaker 1>axis memory, which only exists for as long as the

0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:14.600
<v Speaker 1>computer receives power. This is semi permanent right until you

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<v Speaker 1>markt for deletion. The old physical addresses are stored information

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<v Speaker 1>using magnetism. In other words, you're using magnets to create

0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the zeros and ones on these platters. It can hold

0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.880
<v Speaker 1>this information indefinitely. These hard drives have a circular plate

0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in them. That's what is the platter. So the platter

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.240
<v Speaker 1>is a circular plate. They're shiny, and they're at least

0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:45.400
<v Speaker 1>coded in magnetic material. Most hard drive platters tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be made out of either glass or aluminum, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're coated with a layer of metal that can be

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<v Speaker 1>magnetized and demagnetized. The platter surface contains billions of tiny

0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.520
<v Speaker 1>little areas individually distinct from another, and every single one

0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of those billions of areas can be magnetized, which would

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<v Speaker 1>represent the number one in binary, or demagnetized, which would

0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.240
<v Speaker 1>represent the number zero. Now, using ones and zeros, you

0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.399
<v Speaker 1>can represent all sorts of data, but it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of zeros and ones to represent a relatively small

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<v Speaker 1>amount of information. So, for example, if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>create the binary for an upper case A, you would

0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:31.359
<v Speaker 1>use the eight digits of zero one zero, zero, zero

0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.479
<v Speaker 1>zero zero one. But if you want to do a

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<v Speaker 1>lower case A, that would be a zero one one

0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.920
<v Speaker 1>zero zero zero zero one. Minor distinction, but it makes

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference in binary. And when you figure this

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<v Speaker 1>out that every single one of those areas can be

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<v Speaker 1>either a zero or a one, and it takes eight

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<v Speaker 1>of them just to make one character, you realize, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need a whole lot of those areas to store

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<v Speaker 1>any meaningful amount of information. So it really is billions

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and uh, that's why you gotta that's why

0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you gotta pack all that into the hard drive, otherwise

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.199
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be able to save any meaningful amount of

0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 1>information to it. Now, the way a computer writes data

0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to a hard drive involves using a very tiny magnet

0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.359
<v Speaker 1>on the end of a mechanical arm, and it looks

0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a record player, which I know you

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.359
<v Speaker 1>guys know about now. Like for the longest time, I

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.360
<v Speaker 1>always had to say, hey, ask your parents, But hey,

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.439
<v Speaker 1>vinyls coming back. People own record players again. There are

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.080
<v Speaker 1>bands putting out Vinyl albums. I'm so excited about this,

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<v Speaker 1>largely because I no longer have to explain what it

0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is anymore, because you guys already know. So it looks

0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a record player. You've got a mechanical

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 1>arm on the end of it. Instead of a needle,

0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you have a magnet, and the mechanical arm can swing

0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.680
<v Speaker 1>back and forth over a spinning platter. It can also

0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.800
<v Speaker 1>hit all different spots of that. So you've got this

0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>basic mechanism here. It's pretty simple at least in theory,

0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and that magnet can be used to magnetize demagnetize each

0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.679
<v Speaker 1>of the areas on the hard disk. So with this

0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 1>type of hard drive, the computer tends to store data

0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 1>for files and physically adjacent or nearby areas. So in

0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.800
<v Speaker 1>other words, the data that makes up the files on

0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.679
<v Speaker 1>your physical hard drive tends to be located within the

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 1>same general area of a platter, kind of like a

0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>track on a vinyl record album. So each song obviously

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.520
<v Speaker 1>is one section of a track that's in a concentric

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.760
<v Speaker 1>circle around this vinyl disc, right, Because if you just

0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 1>randomly assigned bits and pieces of songs throughout an album,

0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.720
<v Speaker 1>it would be a mess. You wouldn't have anything really

0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that you could easily listen to and make it meaningful.

0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with hard drive platters. They tend to collect

0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 1>all the data for a file within adjacent spots on

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the platter, if possible. It also makes it easier and

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<v Speaker 1>faster when a hard drive is reading data back that

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<v Speaker 1>it can just focus on a specific section of the

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<v Speaker 1>our drive platter and pull that information out. If it

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<v Speaker 1>had to skip all over the platter, that would take

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>up more time and create more wear and tear on

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the system. Those areas of data are called tracks, by

0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, and they, like I said, are concentric circles

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 1>their pathways that are on the platters themselves. Each track

0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.879
<v Speaker 1>inside of it has smaller areas called sectors, and the

0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.239
<v Speaker 1>computer keeps a record of all the sectors, and it

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<v Speaker 1>knows which ones have files stored on them and which

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.200
<v Speaker 1>ones are free to write over. Now, the free ones

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>may also have data on them, but it just means

0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 1>this is data that's not important, so you can write

0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 1>over it whenever you want. In a Windows machine, we

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 1>call this record the file Allocation table or f a

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:45.320
<v Speaker 1>T or FAT. Now, notice all of that is for

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.640
<v Speaker 1>physical hard drives. If you have a machine that uses

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.359
<v Speaker 1>a solid state drive, it works a lot differently. Solid

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>state drives will store data on lots of different available

0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.919
<v Speaker 1>areas within the drive, so you don't necessarily end up

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>with a sector or track of related data. The data

0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.160
<v Speaker 1>is all on the drive, but it could be broken

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.159
<v Speaker 1>up into smaller pieces, kind of like Mike TV and

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory, you know, when he's

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.160
<v Speaker 1>being broadcast over the year. But they still store data

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:14.959
<v Speaker 1>in the forms of zeros and ones. All of that

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>is still the same. It's still based on this binary code.

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'll get into how so these solid state drives

0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>organized data in just a minute, because it's important and

0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.679
<v Speaker 1>it's a little weird. So if you wanted to wipe

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 1>out a file on a physical hard drive, you'd want

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to use a program that would identify all the free

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.320
<v Speaker 1>areas on a hard disk platter. And then override that

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.520
<v Speaker 1>gibberish on top of those areas. And some of the programs,

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.920
<v Speaker 1>such as the ones used by military and intelligence agencies,

0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 1>will do this more than once to ensure that all

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>records have been completely eradicated, So they'll override a hard

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>drive two or three times, which is frankly overkill if

0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it correctly, but it really does make sure

0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:00.919
<v Speaker 1>that that data is irretrievable at least uh there's no

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing meaningful on there because it's been just completely

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>replaced by gibberish multiple times. This process does take time,

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and since you are just writing meaningless information onto a

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.160
<v Speaker 1>physical hard drive, you know, think about saving a really

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.399
<v Speaker 1>big file to your hard drive and how long that

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>can take. Well, if you're formatting an entired hard drive,

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna take as long as you know that

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.439
<v Speaker 1>hard drive can you know whatever that capacity is and

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever it's spinning rate is as well, so that ReadWrite

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.679
<v Speaker 1>rate is gonna matter a lot, and also just the

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 1>capacity of the hard drive if it's really big, it's

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna take a really long time to write meaningless data

0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to every single free sector on there. And like I

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.920
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, it can contribute to wear and tear on

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the hard drive, because you gotta remember, these are mechanical

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>elements in that system, right, There's that mechanical arm, there's

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the the plate that spins along the for the for

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the platter to rotate properly. Those pieces all wear out

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>over time, and by overriding a hard drive, you're really

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>putting them to work more than they normally would be.

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Now that's not to say that by running a program

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 1>like this you would completely wear out your machine, but

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it will hasten the eventual need to replace the hard drive,

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 1>because eventually all physical hard drives will fail. That's just

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a truth. Um, if you use it long enough, it

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>will fail. Now, if you get rid of the computer

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>before you get to that point, sure, technically you got

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>around it. But if you're just constantly using a hard drive,

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>sooner or later it's gonna it's gonna fail because those

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>mechanical parts are just gonna wear out. Also, most of

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 1>these programs that I know of do this indiscriminately as

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>to which parts of the hard drive get over written.

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's a nice way of saying they'll nuke it

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>from orbit just to be sure, which includes the deleted

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 1>data you definitely didn't want anyone to have any access to,

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>plus everything else as well. So if you plan on

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 1>using this method to clean a hard disk that's still

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>has stuff on it that you want to keep, like

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, pump those breaks just a little bit. Make

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>sure you have a backup copy of your hard drive

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to keep, that you know in case

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>there's any relevant data on there that you need to

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>have access to later on, and then do it. Because

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>if it's doing its job correctly and it allows you

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to designate specific specific parts of your hard drive for

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>this process, you might be fine and everything you wanted

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.679
<v Speaker 1>to keep might still be there. But if things go

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>wrong or you don't use the software properly, or it's

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>software that's meant to tackle an entire hard drive and

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>not just the bits that you want to get rid of,

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you'll be thankful to have that backup copy. Solid state

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>drives don't have any moving parts, so the element of

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>wear and tear that I was just talking about isn't

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>as big an issue. There is wear and tear on

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 1>solid state drive, but not through mechanical stress. I did

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>mention that things get a little weird with them. So

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>here's my attempt to explain how a computer stores data

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.959
<v Speaker 1>in a solid state drive. Now, imagine that the solid

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>state drive has a collection of datas storage units called blocks.

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>All right, so you've got blocks. Within those blocks, you

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>have multiple pages. So you can kind of think of

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a block like a book. Right, So solid state drive

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>has a whole library shelf filled with blank books inside

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>of it. Each book has an equal number of blank pages.

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna use examples, like saying sixteen, So each

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>book has sixteen pages in it blank pages. You can

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>write data to any blank page, or really, the computer

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>can write data to any blank page. A single file

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>might require more than one page within a block or

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a book. So let's say a file takes up three pages.

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 1>That's fine. You still have thirteen more pages left in

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that book where you can write data to it. So

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>let's say that we've got a block that can hold

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>sixteen pages. You write data to that, or you send

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>a command to the computer that writes data to the

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>first five of those. You still have eleven page is left. Now,

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>let's say you eventually fill up those other eleven pages

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>saving other stuff to your computer's hard drive. And now

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the block is full. All sixteen pages have stuff on it.

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>It cannot fit more pages. You have other blocks in

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the drive. It's not a drive that only has one block,

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>but that specific block completely full. You can't add anything

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to it. Then, let's say you realize that one file,

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>let's say that's stored on page number two. One file

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>is superfluous. It offends your sensibilities, and you wish to

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>delete it post haste. But hang on their sport. Because

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>ssd s don't behave the way hard disk drives do.

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>You can't just delete a single page within a block.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>You actually have to delete an entire block with all

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of its pages. In other words, you can't just rip

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>out one page of a book. You have to erase

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the entire book to get rid of that one page.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>So how do you do that? How do you delete

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 1>one page out of a block while keeping everything else?

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>If you have to delete an entire block at a time, Well,

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this turns into a super simple version of the old

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>puzzle that states you got a rowboat, a wolf, a goat,

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and a cabbage. Now the boat is big enough to

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>hold you plus one of the other three companions at

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a time, And yes, I'm promoting cabbage to companion status

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>because I've seen Doctor Who, and some of those companions

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>were thick. Anyway, you need to transport all three across

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>a river. But if you leave the goat with the cabbage,

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>the goat's gonna eat the cabbage. If you leave the

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>wolf with the goat, the wolf will eat the goat.

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>The cabbage doesn't eat anybody. It's a vegetarian. So how

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>do you get all three across the river? Except, of course,

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>with the SSD puzzle it is way easier. And I

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>bet you've already figured out how it works. But if

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you haven't and you want to hear the answer, you're

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to wait just a second while we take

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a quick break to thank our sponsor. Her. Okay, I

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>promised you an answer, and I guess I'm gonna answer

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>both riddles. So the first riddle, you know, the one

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>about the goat and the cabbage and the wolf, Well,

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you would take the goat across the river first, because

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the wolf is not gonna eat the cabbage, and the

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 1>cabbage will not eat the wolf. So you leave the

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>goat on the other side of the river. Then you

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>row back across. You pick up the cabbage, and you

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>roll back to the other side of the river. Then

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you leave the cabbage on that side, but you take

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the goat, because if you leave the goat and the

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>cabbage together, the goats gonna eat the cabbage. So you

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>bring the goat back across to the side where you started.

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Then you take the wolf, but of course you have

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to leave the goat. You can't take both the wolf

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and the goat. Boat boats not big enough, so you

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>put the goat back on the shore, You put the

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>wolf in the rowboat, you row back across. You put

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the wolf on the side with the cabbage, go back

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>across one more time to grab the goat, and final

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>time you row back across, and then you the goat,

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the wolf, and the cabbage can carry on your merry way,

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>happy knowing that you solved a basic riddle and that

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you totally blasted your packs. Bra that's a lot of rowing.

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You really got some cardio done. Well done. But for

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.959
<v Speaker 1>the solid state drives, the answer is actually much more simple.

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>So if you need to delete a file, what actually

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>happens is you have to copy all the pages inside

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>a block containing the files you want to keep, and

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>only those and you have to put them over into

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a new block. So you've got block number one and

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it's got, you know, all sixteen pages filled out, and

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you want to get rid of page number two. What

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you would do is you would copy pages one and

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>then three through sixteen and poured them over to block

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>number two, which has empty pages in it. Then you

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>come back to block number one, which still has all

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>sixteen pages. Right, we haven't done anything yet to those,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>so you actually have copies of information in two different

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>blocks at this point. Then you delete all the pages

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.239
<v Speaker 1>inside block number one, including page number two. This is

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>just to get rid of page number two. Right, You

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>have to go through and copy fifteen pages, paste them

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>into another block, and then delete sixteen pages just to

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>get rid of one page. That seems kind of ridiculous, right,

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>seems like a lot of work. Well, it also creates

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>wear and tear on the flash drive. Now there's no

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>or solid state drive, I should say, there's no moving

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>parts here, right, you don't have any mechanical things to

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>worry about. But there is a limited number of times

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that you can write to a block, and eventually you're

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>going to run out of that many times, and that's

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>when the capacity for your drive starts to diminish, so

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see It's kind of like seeing how

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>rechargeable batteries get less effective over multiple recharges, same kind

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of thing, and that you'll see the storage capacity of

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a solid state I decrease over a long amount of time. Uh,

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the amount of time is largely dependent upon how big

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the solid state drive is because it can sometimes distribute

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>this across a lot of different blocks. And how frequently

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you do this process. By the way, this process is

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 1>called garbage collection, and I am not making that up.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>That is what is referred to when you're trying to

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>do this deletion process through solid state drives. So you

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>wanna be careful with how often you do this, how

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>frequently this happens. A lot of sites suggest that this

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>is done regularly but not frequently, so maybe check into that,

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>because you want to make sure that you're not decreasing

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the useful lifespan of your storage media, otherwise you're gonna

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>have to replace it. And while story storage has gotten

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>cheaper over time, it's still you know, you don't want

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to have to replace it unless you absolutely need to. Now,

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to get a little bit further into the weeds on this.

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>The storage media itself does not know about files marked

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>for deletion, and the operating system doesn't know which blocks

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>have data in them. The operating system is essentially saying,

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>right files to this, or delete files to this. The

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>solid state drive is just thinking, all right, well, I

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>need this is where something is, this is where something

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>can go. So let's use another example to explain sort

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of how this works, because it's a little tricky to

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>think about. So you've got a block with sixteen free pages.

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.959
<v Speaker 1>Then you write stuff to twelve of those pages. So

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the last two of those pages, pages eleven and twelve,

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>represent a file that you decide you want to delete.

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>So pages one through ten you don't want to touch.

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Pages eleven and twelve you no longer need them. You

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>want to delete them. In your operating system, you select

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that file, you delete it. Everything from your side looks

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's gone. There's no way for you to access

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that file anymore. You can't even see that it exists. Uh.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>The operating system essentially says, no problem, that file is

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>totes history, but the solid state drive doesn't do anything yet.

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You then decide later on to save a new file

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to the solid state drive, and it would go into

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the first two empty pages, and that would be eleven

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and twelve because you had set those to delete. But

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the solid state drive didn't understand that until it gets

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the command to write two pages eleven and twelve. It

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>goes to right to eleven and twelve, sees that eleven

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and twelve have data in them, the data from the

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>deleted file, and then adds it to thirteen and fourteen

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>pages thirteen and fourteen, But it designates at that point

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>pages eleven and twelve for a garbage collection. Essentially says,

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the next time you do garbage collection, these two pages

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>are not needed anymore and can be wiped. So we

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>when we do that process I talked about earlier about

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>copying all the pages to another block, don't copy pages

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>eleven and twelve. We don't need them. But this is

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>not terribly efficient because it could mean that you've got

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>an entire block copied over before any of this gets

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>marked for deletion. It could mean that you're essentially increasing

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>wear and tear. It's called right amplification because you're amplifying

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the number of files that need to be written to

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>a new block. Because it hasn't picked up the fact

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that those files are actually supposed to be gone. There

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>is an exception to this, obviously. There there's a application

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>called trim t r I M. This is a command

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>that helps reduce the number of times data gets copied

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>during that garbage collection process. Trim tells the solid state

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>drive which files and therefore which pages you have marked

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>for deletion. So the logical layer on the solid state

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 1>drive knows that pages eleven and twelve can be ignored

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 1>during garbage collection, so they won't be copied to a

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>new block. It takes one step out of the process

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I just described a minute ago. Now, one thing you

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>can and should do with solid state drives is encrypt

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the draw. If you can encrypt the data that's stored there,

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>which means you create a strong password that you use

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to access that information. And if you don't have the

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>strong password, then everything appears to be meaningless data. It's

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>all encrypted and you can't read it easily without decrypting

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>it first. Even if someone gets access to your drive

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>at that point, the information will be difficult, if not impossible,

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to access. Assuming that you don't have a ridiculous farm

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of GPUs working to decrypt through brute force it it

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>would be pretty hard to get access to that information.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>As for a racing solid state drives permanently, there are

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of utility programs you can use that are

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>meant to do that reliably. They say that they are

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>able to delete data off of s s d s

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>with a certain degree of of guarantee. The complexity of

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>solid state drives, however, can lead to mistakes, either in

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>deleting something you didn't want to get rid of or

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>overlooking data that you meant to hasted into the ABYSS.

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And according to one study by a group of engineers

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>at the University of California, it's not exactly a guarantee.

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>They use different methods of trying to delete data from

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 1>an SSD, and they found that the process could leave

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>behind anything from four percent to seventy of the original data, which,

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>depending on what that data is, could be really damaging

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to you. So that's kind of scary to think about,

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>where the process of deleting is not necessarily a guarantee

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that the information is actually gone if you're really really

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>determined to try and retrieve the data. Alright, but let's

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>say you've deleted the information, and you absolutely want to

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>make sure that no one ever gets access to that data,

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>just in case, even if it's just a smidgen of

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>that data, how do you guarantee this well, Once you're

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.479
<v Speaker 1>finished using software to wipe the disk, you can move

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>on to more physical solutions. So with hard disk drives,

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>one thing you could do is pull the drive out

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>of the computer case and use a good old hammer

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and nail so that you can drive a nail through

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the case of the hard drive to puncture the disk,

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>potentially doing this in multiple places on the disk to

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.439
<v Speaker 1>make sure it's impossible to read later on. Now, if

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to do this, you have to promise me

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to do the following things. First, wear eye protection because

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.919
<v Speaker 1>you never know when something's gonna fly off there. Wear

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>some heavy gloves because thumbs and hammers love to get together,

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 1>so it's good for you to protect yourself because you're

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be holding a nail on a metal case and

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>then striking it with a heavy hammer, and put the

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>hard drive on top of a block of wood like

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>a two by four or something, because there's a good

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>chance you're gonna drive that nail straight through the case.

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>And if you do You don't want to damage whatever

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>is on the underside of that hard drive, So follow

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>those rules if you're gonna do this, and be very careful. Now,

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>depending upon what the platter is made out of, you

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>might even shatter it. Right. It may not just have

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a nail driven through it. It might shatter the drive,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>which is good news for you, since it would be

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>exceedingly difficult to put together a shattered drive in any

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>meaningful way. Chances are that data is just irretrievable. You've

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>gone beyond the capabilities of the data retrieval industry. But

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>with solid state drives, you really need to smash the

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>chips that hold the data. So that typically means you

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>have to pull apart the drive, find the relevant chips

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>inside of it, then swing a hammer and start smashing

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like crazy. Now, sometimes it could be a little tricky

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.879
<v Speaker 1>figuring out which chips are the ones that actually hold

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the data, So in those cases, just go nuts and

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>smash all of them. You know, why leave anything out

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>be safe. Alternatively, you could make use of a service

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that will physically destroy your hardware for you, and typically

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>they use a shredder, which is kind of like an

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>industrial version of a wood chipper, something that uses very

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>high power, very uh strong hydraulics typically that will grind

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the stuff into tiny pieces. These shredding services will reduce

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>your media to unusable pieces of junk. I even found

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a few that claimed they follow environmental best practices so

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>that they reduced the impact those materials might have on

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the surrounding environment. Because a lot of computer equipment contains

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff in it that we would rather not release out

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>into the wild, like lead or mercury or other potentially

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>harmful materials. So it is something that you want to

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>be careful about and responsible with because it's one of

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the big problems with e waste. You may have heard

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>previous episodes where I talked about e waste and how

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that can contribute to environmental problems. You want to find

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a company that has a good reputation for dealing with

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>this in a responsible way. For hard disk drives, the

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>physical types, some services might first make use of a

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 1>really powerful magnet before going on to physically destroy the media.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>That's because the magnet can change the sectors of a

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>hard drive so that they all align with the magnetic

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>field of the magnet itself. At least for older hard drives,

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that's a possibility. It certainly works for older forms of

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>magnetic storage in general, like VHS tapes or a credit

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>card stripes. If you've ever had a credit card and

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you've stored it next to like, back to back with

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>another credit card, you may find that suddenly it's not

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>working anymore unless people physically put the number into a machine,

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the stripe no longer seems to work. Well, that's a

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>magnetic stripe, and if it's exposed to a strong enough magnet,

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>it can demagnetize that magnetic stripe, and then you have

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>meaningless data on there. It's no longer associated with your account.

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>This is why you shouldn't have a credit card stored

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>in a clutch or a wallet that has a magnetic clasp,

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>because it can in fact affect that stripe. Now, hard

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:02.439
<v Speaker 1>drives are a little more dy with that they may

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>not even be affected by neodymium magnet At least the

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>data might not be. It may not even affect a

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.919
<v Speaker 1>single bit stored on that hard drive, depending upon when

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the hard drive was manufactured. So what is actually happening here? While,

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, materials have what is called coercivity,

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that's coercivity Like coercion, in a way, coercivity refers to

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.240
<v Speaker 1>materials resistance to being demagnetized. So if you magnetize something

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and it has high coercivity, it means that it is

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>resistant to having that magnetization altered in any way. Um

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's if that coercivity is lower than it means

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>the magnetization can easily or more easily be altered. The

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>unit we associate with this trait is called the Ersted

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>O E R S T E d uh. And like

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, the higher the coercivity, the less likely the

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field will dem agnetize a material. Now, VHS tapes

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and credit card stripes typically falls somewhere in the five

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred to one thousand Ersted range. Hard Drives have higher coercivity,

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>especially more recent physical hard drives, and some of them

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>are enough to protect it from any sort of accidental demagnetization,

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>which is a good thing. I mean. You may have

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>heard about ancient computers, and by that I mean the

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>ones that we had in the eighties and nineties where

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to have a magnet anywhere close to

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a floppy disk because you could demagnetize the floppy disk

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and destroy all the data on it. Well, there was

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fear that the same thing could happen

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to hard drives, But as it turns out, you need

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a really, really powerful magnet to do that, which is

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>why these data destruction services use extremely powerful electro magnets

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to do this. But more and more of them have

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>been leaning heavily on physically destroying the media itself because

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.720
<v Speaker 1>it's less expensive and it's more efficient when it turns

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>when all of a sudden and done. So you don't

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>see it as frequently now as you used to, but

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it used to be a kind of standard part of

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the procedure. And I need to stress this. Do not

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>bring a magnet near a hard drive in order to

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>demonstrate how robust that hard drive is, how it can

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>keep data intact even in the presence of a strong

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>manetic field. Now why do I say that, I mean

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I just finished saying that. Chances are you're not going

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>to alter one bit of information stored on a hard

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>drive using a magnet. Why keep it away? Well, because

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>there are things inside these physical hard drives that are

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 1>reactive to magnets, like they will be attracted to a

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:40.760
<v Speaker 1>magnet parts of the mechanical systems, like the electric motors

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and the mechanical arm and various elements that make everything work.

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>You could do physical damage to the hard drive itself.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>So while the bits would all be still perfectly intact

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>on the platter, you know, you hadn't change the magnetization

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of the platter. You could wreck the workings of the

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>hard of itself. You could tear it apart from the inside,

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>which sounds cool, but then you're not going to be

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>able to get to your data without taking your hard

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.720
<v Speaker 1>drive to some sort of repair shop or data retrieval system,

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and then you've really made it expensive. So keep those

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 1>magnets away from the hard drives, all right. Now, let's

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about trying to get data back. What if our

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>computers have been through some sort of trauma and we

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.359
<v Speaker 1>need to retrieve data on it. So we haven't tried

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to delete the information In this case, it's not like

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 1>we've deleted something and then oh no, I need to

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>get that file back. This is whoops, I accidentally drove

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>over my laptop or a computer was caught in some

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>other terrible accident. How do we get something back when

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>we can no longer actually run the computer, or it

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.879
<v Speaker 1>can no longer access information off the hard drive. Well,

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>there are businesses that are dedicated to doing this, and

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>some of them have had remarkable success, even in extreme cases.

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>So remember how I said. Physical drives can experience wear

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and tear to a point where they're not really operable anymore.

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>A few things can make the mechanical operation of a

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>hard drive impossible. You could have a broken motor. You

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>can have a platter that gets warped and so it

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 1>can no longer spend freely inside the hard drive, which

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>makes it and it makes the data inaccessible. In those cases,

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>bringing the hard drive to a data retrieval services a

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>company that could be your best bet. Now, those services

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>typically operate a space that's similar to a clean room

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>in a microprocessor manufacturing facility. These are rooms where you

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>have really powerful machines that are circulating all the air,

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>which filters the air to remove any dust particles that

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 1>could potentially get in the way. Because remember, the elements

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>on a hard disk drive platter are microscopic in nature

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>beyond microscopic, and a single dust moat is enormous in comparison.

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>So in these environments, engineers wearing clean suits or bunny

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>suits sometimes they're called. These are the white suits that

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>zip up over a person's normal clothing and keep things

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>like like human dust, essentially skin flakes, that kind of

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 1>stuff from polluting the environment. They will take apart these

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>old disk drives and attempt to put them together with

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>other working elements. So you might remove a platter from

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>an old disk drive and put it into a new

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>system to try and retrieve data off of it. And

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like I said, there are a lot of remarkable success

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>stories out there, so I'm gonna share just one because

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty cool and it's it's indicative of

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the more extreme cases of data retrieval. There

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>was a uh AN incident at Southampton University a few

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:42.839
<v Speaker 1>years ago. There was a severe fire that damaged computers

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in a research and development wing. So you had these

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 1>doctoral students PhD students who had been using these computers

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to store their data and to crunch numbers and you know,

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>just to work on these projects. So the information on

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>those computers represented years of work and potentially millions of

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>dollars worth of R and D information. The university had

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 1>this terrible fire and the fire damaged seventy computers in

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this R and D wing, so they contracted a company

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>called Kroll on Track to try and get as much

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of the data back as possible from these machines. These

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.439
<v Speaker 1>are computers that some of them had been melted from

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the fire and had suffered fire damage heat damage. Uh

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the ones that didn't suffer direct fire heat damage had

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:36.439
<v Speaker 1>suffered smoke damage and water damage, So they're talking about

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>an extensive amount of trauma that these computers experienced. A

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.359
<v Speaker 1>an engineer named Robert Winter with carl on Track, led

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this effort to salvage as much data as he could

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>off of the seventy hard drives that the university had

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>given over to him. So the engineers made copies of

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 1>every single hard drive that they were able to, although

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>some of them were so damaged by heat it was

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>just irrecoverable. These computers ended up giving up about of

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the data they had stored on them, so, in other words,

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 1>they were able to get back the vast majority of

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 1>information stored on these computers even after they had been

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>through fire and water and smoke damage. They were subjected

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to some of the worst conditions that a computer can

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 1>endure and still hold information and yet a firm was

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 1>able to get that data off of those computers, which

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is both inspiring and if you're concerned with data security,

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a little scary, because if if data retrieval specialists can

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>get information off a computer that's been in a fire

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and subjected to water damage, you got to go to

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 1>some pretty big extremes in order to take care of

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the information and make sure no one gets access to it.

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And what happens if the computer isn't yours, then what

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>you do? Well, I'm going to cover that in a

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but first let's take another quick break to

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>thank our sponsor. All Right, let's say that you have

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 1>practiced really good data security. You've also practiced backing up

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>your computer. You want to make sure that you have

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>access to information if something should go wrong, so you've

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 1>got to back up for your computer. Uh. If you're

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like most people, I'd say that, at least until fairly recently,

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd say that you'd likely use some sort of external

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>hard drive, and you're backing up regularly to that, maybe

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>once a week or once a month, something like that. Uh,

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe you have it set up where it does that

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 1>automatically every given amount of time and so you're external

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>hard drive represents a continuing timeline of what used to

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>be on your computer or still is on your computer

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and some cases, and that means that if you do

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>delete something off of your hard drive, you could go

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to your backup and retrieve it in case you realize

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>later that that was a bone headed mistake. Let's say

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you're doing that. Now, Let's say that you're going even further.

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's say that you're practicing the next step making sure

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 1>you have your data backed up securely, and you're using

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.760
<v Speaker 1>offsite data backups. Now that means that you are saving

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 1>to a machine that's in a different location than your

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>primary machine. And the added benefit here is that if

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>anything should happen to your physical device, perhaps the building

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that your physical device is in, you still have access

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to the information. I've worked at companies that did this,

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:46.399
<v Speaker 1>where we paid a data company to run servers that

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>we would end up saving our information to. So it

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't so much I mean a get technically it's cloud computing,

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>but really it was just a data farm that had

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>certain computer says aside just for us, and we would

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 1>save backups every day at the end of the day

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to that particular service, and they were dated, and so

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you would keep a certain number of days on file,

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you would replace them with a rolling replacement,

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>which meant that if you deleted something or over wrote something,

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and then two weeks later you need the original, you

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>could actually still get it. This is good if you

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that you know you have access

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to that data even if something happens to that physical location.

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:30.399
<v Speaker 1>So in the case of that Southampton University fire, if

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>they had been using offsite backups, yeah, it would have

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>been awful already because you're gonna lose equipment. No one

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 1>wants to do that. That's expensive. But you would still

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 1>have that data in the off site storage. You wouldn't

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about going through these data retrieval processes

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>because you would already have the information there. However, it

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 1>does raise the other question of if you want to

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>delete something, how can you be sure that it's really gone?

0:51:56.800 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>How do you delete data everywhere? This is particularly complicated.

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Now we're in a world where we have more and

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>more connected devices that are having shared resources. So let

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 1>me give you an example. I am very firmly in

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the Google uh sphere, right, I mean that ecosystem. This

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>is not for me to advocate for Google. Other ecosystems

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>are just as good, if not better. My wife uses

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the Apple ecosystem, for example. So you're you're firmly embedded

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>in one of these ecosystems, and one of the benefits

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 1>is that you have access to a lot of information

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>across a multitude of devices. So you might be using

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a cellular device, you might use a WiFi connected device,

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you might be using multiple devices. You might be using tablets,

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>hand set cell phone essentially our smartphone, laptops, set top boxes,

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:56.399
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of things to access different data, which means

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that data has to be freely available across these different

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:04.280
<v Speaker 1>device is. Sometimes you have instances of that data saved

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 1>on a device for a convenience sake, because if it's

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 1>saved to the local device, you're going to pull it

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 1>up much more quickly than if you have to pull

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that data down from a cloud server every single time. Right, So,

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 1>if you want fast access to your information, then having

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a a temporary version of it saved to the device

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:29.320
<v Speaker 1>for at least some given amount of time is handy.

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:31.799
<v Speaker 1>But it also means if you want to delete that information,

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you might have instances of it existing on multiple devices

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>until the general command is given to wipe it off

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of all of them. Moreover, there's some server somewhere that

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 1>contained that data, and how can you be sure that

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that data is actually gone. Let's make it even more complicated.

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>If you are talking about using a cloud storage service

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>so that you can save your information off site, which

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>again keeps the information relatively safe at least from physical damage.

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Assuming that the cloud service is also practicing very good security,

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it may be giving it superior data security protection from

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>potential hackers or snoopers. Let's say all those things are true,

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>how can you be sure when you delete something that

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 1>actually goes off of those servers. And not only that,

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:28.960
<v Speaker 1>but if you're running a really good cloud service, you're

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>using multiple computers to store the same information for redundancy sake. Now,

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.399
<v Speaker 1>this is for the same purpose that you would save

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.919
<v Speaker 1>something off site as a backup, right, except you're talking

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 1>about a cloud service. If I have a document in

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Google Docs and it's saved through my account somewhere at Google,

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.240
<v Speaker 1>in one of their data centers, or maybe in multiple

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 1>data centers, there are computers that have that document saved

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to them, and it's saved on multiple computers. That way,

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 1>if one computer should break down, because they do break down,

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it just happens. I can still get access to my

0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 1>document because it exists on backup computers. This is redundancy.

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It is a very important feature in cloud storage. If

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't have redundant systems in cloud storage, then should

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 1>something go wrong with one machine at your service, there's

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a client out there who can't get access

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to their information, and since that's what they're paying you for,

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not good business. However, on the flip side of that,

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 1>when you want to delete something now you not not

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You're not only deleting it from your local devices, you

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted deleted from every single instance at the cloud storage service.

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 1>How can you guarantee that happens. And here's the answer

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to that question. You can't. I mean, unless you're able

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to actually physically visit the all the data centers for

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.920
<v Speaker 1>whichever service you're using, and if you're using one of

0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the big ones like Amazon or Google, that's a lot

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.720
<v Speaker 1>of data centers across a lot of different locations around

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the world. Unless you can do that yourself, you cannot

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 1>be absolutely certain that the files you've asked to be deleted,

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>are really really gone? Now, these companies are going to

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you if you send us a request to delete,

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 1>we delete, and you will not have access to that

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 1>file anymore. Don't even bother play in coming to us saying, oh,

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I did not mean to delete that because it is gone. Well,

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of course the companies are going to have to say that,

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise it would be to suggest that when I

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 1>delete something from their servers, they don't actually delete it,

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and that would be bad business. But we can't be

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:43.320
<v Speaker 1>sure that when they say they've deleted something that's actually gone.

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:47.760
<v Speaker 1>What does happen is they essentially sever the connection between

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the customer and that particular information. So if I delete

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a document out of my Google Docs, let's say, then

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:58.880
<v Speaker 1>what Google is going to do is essentially cut off

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the method that of getting to that document from my account.

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 1>That means that I no longer have a pathway to

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that document, but I can't be certain that it means

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the document itself is gone. It may still exist on

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 1>multiple computers under Google's domain. I just can't get to it,

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean it's actually deleted. Now a lot

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of these cloud services will also offer encryption services or

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>even include that as part of the storage system, meaning

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that your data is encrypted and the only way to

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>get to it is to have the decryption key so

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that you can actually read that that information. That's a

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>little more useful because if I delete a file and

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.920
<v Speaker 1>they cut off the pathway between me and that file,

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>even if it still exists on their computers, it's encrypted,

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like anyone's reading it or getting access

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to it because they don't have the decryption key. I

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 1>have it, So that's a little bit better. And in fact,

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it's the solution that the I E E E, the

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I triple E, or as Chris Palette and I always

0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 1>used to say back in the old days of tech stuff,

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I e. They recommend using encryption for all cloud services.

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they're specific recommendation is using what they called

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 1>recursively encrypted red black key tree or RURK r E

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 1>E R E r K, which is a complicated method

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>of making sure that off site data is meaningless to

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:33.919
<v Speaker 1>anyone but the person who actually owns data or has

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the legitimate access to that data. Now, the reason why

0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>this is a relevant question is because it became clear

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that there are some companies that had purported to have

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>only temporary ownership of data or temporary stewardship if you prefer,

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 1>of data, and it turned out that it was less

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>temporary than had previously been suspected. So back in for example,

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 1>there was a story of about Snapchat and about how

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the service was keeping photos rather than deleting them after

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a said amount of time. So the general thought was

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>that if you took a photo with Snapchat and then

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you shared it with people, it would only exist for

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty four hours and then it was gone permanently.

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 1>But then it turned out that the story wasn't entirely true. Now,

0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the two thousand thirteen story didn't suggest that Snapchat was

0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 1>actually keeping these copies on their servers. Rather, what it

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was saying was that the device you were using to

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 1>access Snapchat and to take photos of yourself would hold

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 1>onto those pictures for a while at least, that they

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>were doing it in a way where they were using

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a file extension that made it difficult to see that

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>those files still existed on the device. But if you

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:51.919
<v Speaker 1>knew what you were looking for, and if you used

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of tech forensics work, you could actually

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 1>find the folder and the photos that you had been

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 1>taking all that time on Snapchat, even though it sounded

1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>like the app was going to delete the photo from

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 1>your device after a given amount of time, So it

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>turned out that it wasn't as gone as you thought

1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it was. Now, granted, that's on a local device, right,

1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:16.000
<v Speaker 1>so it only really matters if someone else gets hold

1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of your phone, let's say, and has access to it

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and is able to find that folder and find those

1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>image files which have been renamed, thus making them more

1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:28.680
<v Speaker 1>difficult to find. But if they knew how to do that,

1:00:28.720 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>they could totally see all those images that you were

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.800
<v Speaker 1>being taking on Snapchat and sitting off. So all those

1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:37.320
<v Speaker 1>post workout selfies that I do, but I mean, come on,

1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 1>they're working hard. So those still existed on the phones.

1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 1>That was the story that broke in two thousand thirteen.

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>As for the servers, they do not hold onto user

1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:51.120
<v Speaker 1>data forever, so they don't hold onto those photos and

1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:56.640
<v Speaker 1>other snaps indefinitely, but they might hold on to it

1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>longer than you expected them to, up to thirty days

1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>after when you shared the snap. So technically what they'll

1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 1>do is they'll delete files once the system detects that

1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:14.080
<v Speaker 1>all the recipients of a snap have viewed it. So

1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.400
<v Speaker 1>let's say that you've you're sharing something just to your

1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Snapchat followers. That's it. It's not available to anyone else.

1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:25.720
<v Speaker 1>You send this out and the system detects that every

1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 1>single one of your Snapchat followers has had a chance

1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to look at that snap has opened it at some point.

1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:34.600
<v Speaker 1>It will then mark that snap for deletion, but if

1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.960
<v Speaker 1>not everyone has done it, it will keep that snap

1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 1>active for up to thirty days after it was taken

1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:43.880
<v Speaker 1>in order to give people who follow you the chance

1:01:43.920 --> 1:01:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to see it, which I don't think is a bad

1:01:46.840 --> 1:01:50.360
<v Speaker 1>thing necessarily. It's just something that might not easily be

1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:54.160
<v Speaker 1>understood by a lot of people who use Snapchat, who

1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:58.080
<v Speaker 1>think this is a very momentary type of media and

1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 1>moments after I share it it's gone. That's not the case.

1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 1>It can stick around on those servers for up to

1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a month later. I don't know that that's necessarily a

1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:10.440
<v Speaker 1>deal breaker, but it is something to keep in mind.

1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:12.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's those kind of stories that got people to

1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:16.120
<v Speaker 1>asking questions about cloud storage. If I decided to delete

1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:20.080
<v Speaker 1>something off of my cloud storage account, how can I

1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:23.000
<v Speaker 1>be sure it's really gone? And again, the answer is

1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:27.320
<v Speaker 1>he can't be certain, so that's kind of buyer beware.

1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I suppose that if you're going to use cloud storage,

1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:34.040
<v Speaker 1>which I think is a valuable service, don't get me wrong,

1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you do so knowing that there is the potential that

1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that information is going to be out there forever, h

1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:44.560
<v Speaker 1>on those servers, or at least on a machine somewhere.

1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:47.640
<v Speaker 1>You have to accept that that is a possibility. It's

1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:51.320
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily something that is definitely gonna happen, but it's

1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely possible. Let's say that you have saved something

1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to your account and then they decided to take a

1:02:57.720 --> 1:03:02.120
<v Speaker 1>server offline because they need to replace it in their

1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:06.720
<v Speaker 1>array of servers, and it happens to have a copy

1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of that information you saved. Then you choose to delete

1:03:10.040 --> 1:03:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it from your account, but that particular machine has been

1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:16.960
<v Speaker 1>disconnected from the overall service, an instance of your information

1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.439
<v Speaker 1>may still be on that machine. Now, granted, if it's

1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate business, what they they should do is wipe

1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:28.400
<v Speaker 1>that machine completely and and overwrite all the information on

1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it so that no files on it could possibly ever

1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:35.439
<v Speaker 1>be accessed. But it's still want something to worry about,

1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:38.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's outside of your control. If you're using cloud

1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:43.200
<v Speaker 1>storage responsibly and you are practicing good data security in general,

1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't see any reason why you should stop relying

1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:50.400
<v Speaker 1>on it, especially if you're using encryption. I think it's

1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:52.720
<v Speaker 1>a valuable thing to use, but it's also good to

1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:56.400
<v Speaker 1>know it's limitations and the potential problems you could encounter

1:03:57.080 --> 1:04:00.240
<v Speaker 1>uh in in a worse case scenario situation. And if

1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that worst case scenario isn't that bad for you, there's

1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:07.360
<v Speaker 1>no problem. If you want to save something that is

1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:12.040
<v Speaker 1>more sensitive information, maybe they are trade secrets, something that

1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you do not want to get out to the general public.

1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe don't save it on cloud storage. Maybe save it

1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:23.160
<v Speaker 1>on local storage. Have an off site but secured data

1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:26.040
<v Speaker 1>server that's just yours. No one else is sharing it.

1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Save it to there too for a backup. It's a

1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:32.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of extra work, but it's more of a guarantee

1:04:32.640 --> 1:04:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that your sensitive information will not leave your control, and

1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:41.280
<v Speaker 1>ultimately that's the most important thing in this particular discussion.

1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:45.960
<v Speaker 1>If you've shared it online, if you've posted some information

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet, it's out there forever. Just accept that

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<v Speaker 1>because there's not any easy way to remove something that's

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<v Speaker 1>been posted to the Internet. People on Twitter know this.

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<v Speaker 1>People who have tweeted things that they wish they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>and had gone back to delete those tweets, they already know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no such thing as deleting it off the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>It exists somewhere else already, someone has already saved a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of it, and it is perpetuating out there for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of all of the Internet's existence. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's sensitive information, don't post it on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like it's incredibly basic information, and yet people

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<v Speaker 1>still do it. So I'm gonna say it here just

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<v Speaker 1>in case any of you were thinking, Hey, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I should post my social Security number on Facebook. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Don't do it. All Right, that wraps up

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<v Speaker 1>this discussion about data deletion data retrieval. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more of the details I could go into, but it

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