1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Looking for the perfect blueprint on how to draft, looking 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: at your what would Debro do bracelet, maybe staying up 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: late at night and thinking what does Jake Seey really 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: want a draft in the ninth round. If the answer 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: is yes to any of these things, we have you 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: covered for this episode. I'm Chris Welsh right here in 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros. I've got Derek Brown and Jake Seely, so 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: we will actually be answering those questions where we're putting 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: together what could be seen as the perfect draft, the 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: blueprint to tackle each round where we are going to 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: look at Deepro and Jake's favorite players in each round, 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: and not just a couple of rounds, We're doing the 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: entire draft. After it's all done, we'll even take a 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: little look at what those teams might look like. So 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: that's what we've got in store here. Mister Derek Brown, 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: it's great to see you this exercise. Did you find 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: yourself making any big concerted changes? Obviously we're going to 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: move through here, but did you learn anything about yourself 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: as you unveiled the blueprint on how to draft? Like 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: debro Uh? 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Well one, uh, I'm gonna go double check the merch 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: store and see if that bracelet is in there. 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: W w d D is what we were. 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: That's a lot easier for me as everybody can just 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: use their Jesus bracelets. Although that that feels weird to 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: say that. 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: But what would Jake do? 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Actually I would make it all 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: in due because then there'd be odd then you can 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: sit there, you go, what would all. 31 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what's your wad look like? 32 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: But back to that was weird phrasing. 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: Uh, But anyway back to the originally car Yeah, I 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: I kind of welsh when I got through, uh one 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: of the picking players, I was like, dude, the third 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 4: and fourth round was incredibly hard. 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: I was like, do I have to just pick one? 39 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: I like so many players in this range? 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Man and Jake. Uh, not to put people behind the curtain. 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten to it yet, but like we 42 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: were kind of experimenting in the background. You would actually 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: ended up doing something through the first three not necessarily 44 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: at that time. You weren't even looking at it like 45 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: a team build. And this isn't necessarily meant to be 46 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: like a full team build. This is your best values 47 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: per round as well, but you had done something that 48 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: you changed a little bit before we started the show. 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: So let me ask you the question, the thing that 50 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: you learned about yourself? Did you learn that you really 51 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: like running backs this year in early rounds. 52 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: I really like some of the values of certain running backs. Yes, 53 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: And really what it came down to, you know, the 54 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: peak behind the curtain was it started three running backs 55 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: because I read this as the best my favorite value 56 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: in each round, and it's like, wow, favorite value first round, 57 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: favorite value second round. Like, actually, deebro and I when 58 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: we get to my second round er, I can consider 59 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: him as the end of the first round. But then 60 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: the point being is like, well, then we're talking roster construction, 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: and I looked at the end of the roster. It's like, well, 62 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: that's not something I would do. But I think what 63 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: we can learn from that is that when you find 64 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: your wide receiver in the first two I would say 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: first two rounds, that you do really like wherever you're drafting, 66 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: because it's not my pick because I love this running 67 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: back so much. But Aj Brown in the second round 68 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: I thought was a terrific value. Where he is right 69 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: now now to be able to get a wide receiver 70 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 3: in the first two rounds knowing that there's still a 71 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: lot of running back values I love, like the one 72 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: I have is one of other favorites still in the 73 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: third round, So I think you can still get two 74 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 3: running backs in the first three rounds. But make sure 75 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: you know because there's so many values that you do 76 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: have to get a wide receiver in there. 77 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: If you want to go to that build and that's 78 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: set in the stage, that's set in. The stage for 79 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: you guys, is we're going to be going through. I 80 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: think we have fourteen picks that each one is. It's 81 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: like twenty eight plus players with a few little extras 82 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: in and at the very end, I will recap to 83 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: see again what this team kind of looks like and 84 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: what it says about the entirety of it. If you 85 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: guys want to follow along in some of the conversation 86 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: that we're doing and we bring up ECR, you can 87 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: go to fantasypros dot com slash NFL slash Rankings and 88 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: you can check out the ECR that we're going to 89 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: be referencing in here, also the player values. You can 90 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: click on the ADP tab if you want to see 91 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: ECR versus ADP. Lots of helpful stuff you can go 92 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: and do that on Fantasy Pros on the website or 93 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: even check it out on the app. Gentlemen, let's just 94 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: jump into this bad boy. Let's go to round one 95 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: where each of you get to make your big pick, 96 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: and Deebro, we're going to start with you. Originally, that's 97 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: why I was like laughing about this. It was, you know, 98 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Jake had all these running backs and then you, Deebro, 99 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: are actually kicking off. So it's like, I'm kind of 100 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: a running back guy here and I get to have 101 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: all these running back conversations, and Deebro, you are going 102 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: to jump in with your first round pick of a 103 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: running back that you've got a big case for, but 104 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: maybe not quite the player that people might be thinking. 105 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: When you think of first round running backs, you're thinking 106 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: of bije On, you're thinking of Gibbs, you are thinking 107 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: of someone else. 108 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think James Cook is the best value on 109 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: the board. Looking at eleventh overall, he's being valued basically 110 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: based off of what he did last year. He was 111 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: the RB six and Fantasy points per game, he's at 112 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: the RB five station. I think James Cook can take 113 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: a step into rarefied air and I'm not saying RB 114 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: one overall, but I think he could be top three 115 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: this year, guys, And I think what we've seen all 116 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: the confluence of events that you need for a player 117 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: to get into that top three conversation. At running back, 118 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: you need a good offense, okay, Buffalo check over the 119 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: last years have been top six and points per game 120 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: in red zone, scoring attempts per game. You need volume, okay, 121 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 2: James Cook last year led the entire NFL and rushing 122 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: yards third and rushing attempts. Okay. You need touchdowns, Well, 123 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: he's got two years. He scored fourteen and eighteen touchdowns. 124 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Is it insane if we get a twenty year, twenty 125 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: touchdown season out of James Cook. It really shouldn't be 126 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: because it could definitely happen. And then you go to 127 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: the last part or piece of a running back stepping 128 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: into the top three. He has to have passing game involvement. 129 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: That's the final part of this picture that I think 130 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: we get from James Cook in twenty twenty six. With 131 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: Pete Carmichael being added to this team as the offensive coordinator. 132 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: And I know that like people could frame this as like, Okay, 133 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: this is a Sean Payton stat. This isn't a Pete 134 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 2: Carmichael stat. During Pete Carmichael's entire tenure with the Saints 135 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: as OC, they were never lower than tenth in running 136 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: back targets here, and that's a big outlier compared to 137 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: you look at James Cook, who coming out of college 138 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: was supposed to be receiving back. He was supposed to 139 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: be this do it all in the passing game, and 140 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: we really haven't seen that over the last few years. 141 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: Like Buffalo, in the last three seasons, running back target 142 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: chare twelfth, sixteen, twenty third. 143 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: Not great. 144 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: You look at Carmichael's tenure, even with out Sean Payton, 145 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: his offense is in those two seasons with the Saints, 146 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: we're still ninth and tenth at the running back target 147 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: share frame with twenty one point seven to thirty three 148 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: point eight percent of the targets. And then you look 149 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: at the Buffalo passing attack. It's like, who is the 150 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: high end, elite target earner in that offense? Khalia Shakir No, 151 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: DJ Moore maybe, but we got a lot of questions. 152 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: Donky Kid sure when he's on the field, but he's 153 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: a part time player. So like Cook could be the 154 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: number three in the passing game on some weeks the 155 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: number two in the passing game. And if all this 156 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: comes together, guys, he's the top three back. He should 157 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: be in the same kind of conversation on legal the 158 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: outskirts of a bijeon a Gibbs why not. 159 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too, just because like when you're you're 160 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: talking about the values, the value is the thing that 161 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: really jumps out like it is on the back half 162 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: of the first round, like you can there's a lot 163 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: of what you can do in the second round and 164 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: team building stuff. When you get James Cook. It's a 165 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: little bit different on the take where you were going 166 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: with it, Jake. Again, you'd originally had a running back 167 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: in there. You picked a nice, higher volume wide receiver, 168 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: and you know, I think there's probably I mean upwards 169 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: of three or four guys probably remember of like the 170 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: three that people lock into that could be the true 171 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: number one. You're going with a wide receiver for your 172 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: best in the first round, So hit us with who 173 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: that is. 174 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I wanted to echo a lot of what 175 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: Debro said though real quick, because a lot of people 176 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: are in James Cook and they're like, oh, you can't 177 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: have the touchdown success again. So he had four fewer 178 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns and had more fancy points per game because 179 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: of those extra hundred carries, he actually had more efficiency, 180 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: which is something we don't really think of a lot, 181 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: Like he was actually better in yours per carry and 182 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: yours per reception. So I'm with him. I loved getting 183 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: James Cook at the end of the first round. I 184 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: initially you talked about like I had Christian McCaffery, because 185 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: at seven, I feel like we're doing the same thing 186 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: we are last year. It's that if he stays healthy, 187 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: he was just the number one. He was the number 188 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: one by a gap over everybody else, Bijon and Gibbs 189 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: and all the rest. The risk is coming off a 190 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: lot of touches from somebody who's been injured multiple times. 191 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: We were scared last year. We're probably honestly a little 192 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: bit more scared this year because now he's got that 193 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: four hundred mark on him. So I think that if 194 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: you're looking at Christian McCaffrey getting him though at seven 195 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: slash eight, depending on like the draft, ye're looking at 196 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: us right around where he's going. 197 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: I'm okay with it. 198 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: Like I'll take him in that risk because if he 199 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: plays sixteen, there's a case he's the number one player 200 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: Fantasy game. But because of what happened in arounds two 201 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: or three, I pivoted away from that knowing that Okay, 202 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: well now, and again some of it's hindsight, but you 203 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: brought it up early on. This is again to give 204 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: people that look at their drafts and when they're. 205 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 5: Going into it. 206 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: I would take Nikoua at four if I have the 207 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: fourth pick, because Niku is my number one wide receiver, 208 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: Like that's really what it comes down to. I have 209 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: him over Chase coming off last year. You know who 210 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: scored more than him Fantasy points per game? Two running backs? 211 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: That's it, Christian McCaffrey, and not even the guys that 212 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: are going number one and two in bjon and Gibbs. 213 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: Not that they can't do it, not that he can't 214 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: reach twenty points per game, but it was Jonathan Taylor. 215 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: So it wasn't even the two that we're taking with 216 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: the number one and two pick, which I have as 217 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: the number one and two pick. But that being said, 218 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: the only concern I think people have for Nikoua is 219 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: not even Nakua Well let's be honest, it kind of 220 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: probably is this probably Nikoua and Stafford is health. Similar 221 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: to Christian McCaffrey, Nikoua seems to be falling into this 222 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: Julio Jones world of like, oh my god, he's playing 223 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: eighty percent of snaps because he came off for two 224 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: drives in the third quarter. Alwa, he's nicked up again. 225 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: Oh he just went down hard. 226 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 5: What does this mean? 227 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: Is Nikua going to be out? And it is terrifying 228 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: to watch him. I have him on a lot of 229 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: rosters because I draft him a lot of Dynasty teams. 230 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: So like, every time I'm watching these games, I'm like, 231 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: oh my god, Nicole's getting hurt again. But as seventeen 232 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: games with Matthew Stafford, he's probably gonna be the number 233 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: one wide receiver. 234 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: Again. I've mentioned this a lot of times. 235 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, everybody always wants to say, if he's healthy 236 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow's healthy, Yeah, he has that twenty point 237 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: season on him, but he also has seasons where he 238 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: was healthy and Joe Burrow were healthy, and he has 239 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen fancy points per game. Not that that's terrible, 240 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: but Nicoua and Chase actually have similar ceilings. Nicolea is 241 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: coming off one where we can see it replicate. If 242 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: Chase even gets back to g Be and Chase, which 243 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: he should, it still only might be sixteen. 244 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 5: Can it be twenty? Absolutely? But I would go in 245 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 5: to Koula. 246 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: All right, so we go James Cook, Puka Nakua. If 247 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm scoring this, which is kind of being asked to me, 248 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: I gotta score each round, I am. 249 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: How are you scoring it? Are you scoring it with 250 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: the player you like more or the value you like more, 251 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: because that that could be two different things. 252 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: I am, I'm, I'm. It's gonna be a fifty to 253 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: fifty people are gonna get all pissy. I am going 254 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: to give round one to Jake Seely. Jake Seely is 255 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: gonna get round one. My main reasoning behind it, I 256 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: like the James Cook stuff. But I would also point out, 257 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: like you are in a big tier break So it's 258 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: like Bijeon, Jamiir Gibbs, they're their own tier, you know. 259 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: And then you've got McCaffrey who maybe owns his own tier. 260 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: So that's not a negative against James Cook. It's just 261 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: like him versus a tiered above positional where Pooka and 262 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: Akoua is a part of the top tier. I like 263 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: the James Cook thing because, like I said, if these 264 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: players actually really can't be drafted next to each other. 265 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of a default point to 266 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Jake because these are more positionally first round. As we 267 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: move through this, it becomes a lot more open where 268 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: it's like you really would have the option to do 269 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: whatever you want, and you're gonna kind of see that 270 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: play out as we go. So first point goes to Jake. 271 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: I'll need to make a little marker to see how 272 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: the past. 273 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: I want to give another pro Pooka comment too before 274 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: we move on to round two. He has never had 275 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: an outlier season with touchdowns. If the red zone usage 276 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: flips any from Adams to the point like we're talking 277 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: about ten three six receiving touchdowns. But if we get it, 278 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: if he is a season where he does what he 279 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: did last year, but he scores fourteen touchdowns, he's breaking fantasy. 280 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that simple, all right. Second round, let's get 281 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: to it in the second round. De bro, you get 282 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: to kick us off. You started us with a running back. 283 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Are you going to dev eight? What are you gonna 284 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: do in the second round, your best perfect pick in 285 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: the second round. 286 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: AJ Brown, He's my guy. I could have gone with 287 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: some running backs here. I'm all in on AJ Brown 288 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: this year. I think we get a career season from 289 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 2: AJ Brown in a limited volume passing offense. Over the 290 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: last few years, AJ Brown wide receiver ten twelve, eight 291 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: and eight and fantasy points per game. And this year 292 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: he gets to go from an Eagles passing attack that 293 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: was fifteenth in neutral passing rate to the Patriots that 294 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: were ninth last year and the exact same metric. AJ 295 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: Brown is going to see a career high in targets 296 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: if he stays healthy. And for everybody like he's not washed, 297 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: there's no metric you can point to on a per 298 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: route basis that says that he was ninth in target 299 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: share seventeenth and yards per route run eighth and first 300 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: reach here, top twenty in first downs per route run 301 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: and route win rate. And if you look at also 302 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: the touchdown ceiling with AJ Brown again in another player 303 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: that could score a career high in touchdowns this year 304 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: because Philly inside the ten last year year, This won't 305 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: shock anybody. They were thirty second in tens on passing 306 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: rate the Patriots fifteenth and aj Brown is going to 307 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: be their go to guy in the red zone. So 308 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: everybody that talks about Drake May spreads the ball round 309 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: target chair, blah blah. That's what you do when you 310 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: don't have an alpha wide receiver. We could point back 311 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: to years and years and years of Josh McDaniel's offenses 312 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: when they've had a true alpha level wide receiver, they 313 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: get fed. So it's just wheels up for AJ Brown, 314 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: like he has top three upside. He could be in 315 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: the same conversation with Chase and Puka this year. 316 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: And also they did like weird rotational stuff with whiteouts 317 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: last year too, you know where it would be like, hey, 318 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: here's you know, I want to say, I'm trying to 319 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: remember what it was like, here's a pop, Here's I 320 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: was like digs and pop and then oh, here's Booty 321 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: and here's. 322 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: The end of Colin the season stretching the double digit weeks, 323 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: Diggs was essentially on the field sixty percent of the time. 324 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. 325 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 5: Yes, to echo Debro's point real quick. 326 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: When the trade happened, I did a breakdown article on 327 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: the Athletic talking about Drake May and how this is 328 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: like a perfect marriage of talents here since May's first 329 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: game starting in the NFL, EPA per drop back twenty 330 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: plus air yards, second, touchdown per attempt, second completion percentage, 331 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: fourth touchdown per interception second for twenty twenty five only 332 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: second four to third second AJ Brown since he was 333 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: with the Eagles, let alone just the past two years. 334 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: EPA per target tenth, reception percentage, ninth, touchdown per target tenth. 335 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: You're talking about two top five, top ten players in 336 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: downfield passing the twenty plus yards. 337 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 5: I'm with Debro like I. 338 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: If I would flip these picks, I'd be on the 339 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: same page too, because if it went running back first, 340 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: AJ Brown would probably. 341 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: Be my target in the second round most times. 342 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: Where do you have him ranked, Jake? Because I've got 343 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: AJ Brown at wide receiver five. 344 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: Like I just did Pat Mayo's show going through the 345 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: ranks with Ian Hardest, I am at six and I 346 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: got so much pushback from both of them. 347 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: You're not getting any push back here. 348 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I yeah, for sa AJ Brown at six, who'd you 349 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: push to seven? Drake Drake? 350 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's ahead of Drake London Ceede Lamb for me. 351 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: I go to Drake London, the Cowboys both and the 352 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: Nico Collins. They both pushed for Nico Collins and Ceede 353 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: Lamb above them, and I'm like, I'm not, I'm not 354 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: doing that. 355 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lamb is the one that I was more getting at, 356 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: Like was it who was the guy that was pushed out? 357 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: And it was Lamb for him? So that's interesting. All right. Uh, 358 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: there's definitely a lettuce joke in here for your pick 359 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: because we're going to continue some browns. I'm not going 360 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: to make that joke because I'm a professional, but we 361 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: are going to continue on the brown run here, Jake, 362 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: and you were going to go with a different you. 363 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Just do like a TV sitcom thing where it's like, 364 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: you know, if we point out we're making a racist joke, 365 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: it's okay because we pointed out that we're making the joke, 366 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: so we know that. 367 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: It's like yeah, you but no, no, no, I know 368 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: what you're saying. I know what saying. 369 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: It's like, it's okay I made the joke because I'm 370 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: pointing out how bad the joke is that I made it. 371 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: The joke, like and they get. 372 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Away your analogy your analogy. No, but the idea absolutely, yes, 373 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: there was definitely. I'm a better pop joke. I'm a 374 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: better person than making the poop joke. I just want 375 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: to point out it's there and I want to acknowledge it, 376 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: and then we can move on because clearly we have 377 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: another Brown. It is Chase Brown. This is the continuation 378 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: of the running back she did not move off of. 379 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: So that is your second round pick. 380 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: And I do love this one mostly because I have 381 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: Chase Brown as a first round pick. Like I initially 382 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: was going to put him in the first round because 383 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: I have him at eleven overall and I was like, well, wait, 384 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: the ECR so far down like that, that's a hell 385 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: of a jump to pull him up six to seven 386 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: spots into the first round. But Chase Brown is the easiest, 387 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: Like we could go into depth about what he's done 388 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: on a per touch basis and how this offense and 389 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: if everybody's. 390 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 5: Healthy, blah blah blah. 391 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: The easiest comparison I'll make is I see James Cook 392 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: better passer, which all it takes is the offense clicking 393 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: and staying healthy. And to get what we get from 394 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: James Cocoa, which you saw with the Bills just two 395 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: years ago and last year, because that's who it takes 396 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: is this is somebody that's been hovering around low two 397 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: hundred carries and low touchdown efficiency, which might be his thing. 398 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: He might never get to twelve touchdowns rushing, and that's fine. 399 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: Maybe he falls into the Matt fourte world. Oh god, 400 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: by the way, Matt fourt top five for multiple years 401 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: because Chase Brown sixty receptions potentially seventy receptions. So all 402 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: I'm looking for from Chase Brown is to hit like 403 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: a three hundred touch mark, which the Bengals continue to 404 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: tell us they're gonna use Chase Brown because they basically 405 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: did nothing to this backfield this year. I don't think 406 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: anybody is super afraid of SMARJP run at this point 407 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: in their career TOAJ Brooks, depth player who actually replicates 408 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: a lot of what Chase Brown does. I just I 409 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: look at somebody who could potentially do what James Cook 410 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: did two years ago, where it's like, oh my god, 411 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: he got all the touches and he actually got some 412 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: touchdown variance luck in his favor, and all of a sudden, 413 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: we're talking about Chase Brown is a top six running back. 414 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Razor thin here when we come to the judge and 415 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: I have to make the decision on the scorecard here 416 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: because I love both of these picks. You know, just 417 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: as a side note to throw in two. A lot 418 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: of people talking about McDaniels and slot wider receivers, like 419 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: we also are going to see probably a j Brown 420 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: in that spot. 421 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: I like number two or number two. 422 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a joke there. Yeah, but Deepro, my point was, 423 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: is you gave me a little face there. It's like, 424 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: regardless of the point people making the cases for you know, 425 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of a Romeo Dobbs thing that's put out there, 426 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: but it's like, Brown's a guy that's never gonna get 427 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: off the field. I also love Chase Brown and everything 428 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: you talk about and when Joe Burrow is out there 429 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: and how that I mean, we also know how he 430 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: disappears when there is no Burrow. But for this one, 431 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: I will stick with two for the second round, and 432 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: I am going to go with Jake Seely another point. 433 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: Chase Brown very razor thinge very tough on this one 434 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: running back Stan I get it. And Jake Seely's the 435 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: two now because he's got two points all right, let's 436 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: go to the third round here. Moving to the third round, 437 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: things are going to be opening up here and deepro 438 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: you get to kick it back off, talk to us 439 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: about what you're doing phrasing there, dude. 440 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: I think that Colston Loveland, and I want to be 441 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: very clear, Coleston Loveland, I'm bringing him up in the 442 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: third round, and he's in a lot of places you're 443 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: gonna see he's kind of like a fourth round pick. 444 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: I think when it's all said and done in the summer, 445 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: when we are in the heat of draft season, he's 446 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: going to be a third round pick, a firm third 447 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: round pick, because you're already seeing he's in the third 448 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: round in Best Ball Draft. So like it kind of 449 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: like I'm skating to where the puck is going to be. 450 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: And with Colston Lovelin, I bring it up here because 451 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: I think, like much like I said all of last 452 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: year with Trey McBride, I think that Colston Loveland is 453 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: going to be a league defining player, a guy that 454 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 2: is going to flip the script and be from one 455 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: of those onesie positions, somebody that is a massive difference maker. 456 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: And I think you can produce at a similar clip 457 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: to somebody like a brock Bowers this year. And I 458 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: know people say that's crazy, and that's fine, but if 459 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: he does, you're getting a discount on a player that 460 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: could produce at a similar clip. And we've already seen 461 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: this happen guys like week sixteen through twenty last year, 462 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: twenty five point six percent target chair. He was averaging 463 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: almost eighty two receiving yards two point four to nine 464 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: yards per route run, a thirty four percent first reach 465 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 2: here point one one six first downs per route run. 466 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: The re not bring up all of these metrics is 467 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: because if you looked at that type of usage over 468 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: the whole entire season amongst all tight ends with at 469 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: least twenty targets that would have been first, first, fourth, first, fourth, 470 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: and second. You compare those and juxtaposed against the full 471 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: seasons of Trey McBride last year and brock Bowers in 472 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, those metrics on a per route basis, 473 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 2: Colston Lovelin shoves both of those guys into a locker. 474 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: He was better than McBride in that stretch. McBride was 475 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: last year, and he was better than brock Powers was 476 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. If he does that this year, 477 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: he can be in that rarefied error in the conversation, 478 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: if not the tight end one in fantasy points per 479 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 2: game this season. 480 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: For some reason, Colson Loveland dominates when me and Jake 481 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: do a show together because this is like, it's funny 482 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: having someone else talk Jake. Yeah, well, because Jake, you've 483 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: talked about how your projection spit out. Loveland is the 484 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: top guy number one, was number one. 485 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: Number one, and may make me do a double take. 486 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know Jake is going to co sign 487 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: on this one. So but you're not going to be 488 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: taking Loveland, Jake. So you're up here, so you're round three, 489 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: you're perfect. Pick who you got. 490 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: It's the value here running back, and it's Kyraen Williams 491 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: if I can get him in the third round because 492 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: I don't have to take him in the second round anymore, 493 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: which last year we were saying we don't have to 494 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: take him in the first round anymore. 495 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: We're going to. 496 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: Continue to kick him back and I will continue to 497 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 3: draft Kiraen Williams because everybody's afraid of Blake Korum and 498 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: I get it. But if you take the point of 499 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 3: the season, it was about the middle point of the 500 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: season where it really did split. Everybody's afraid of a 501 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: sixty to forty split fifty nine percent of the touches 502 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: from Week seven on for Kirale Williams. Here's the interesting 503 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: part of it. Kyrale Williams actually got better in the 504 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: passing game in the second half of the season when 505 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: Korm was starting to get all this workload. He had 506 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: twenty two targets to six for Korm. He was putting 507 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 3: up marks that we have seen at his peak of 508 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: his career in the receiving game. And I'm not saying 509 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: that all of a sudden Kiraen Williams is going to 510 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: have sixty receptions. I'm just making that clear. Is the 511 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: fact that when that split came, the passing game work 512 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: was his. It was better than it had been before, 513 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: and he was still getting the goal line five yard 514 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: inside the ten work, which is what we all want. 515 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: Shortcorm could steal a little bit at that this year, 516 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: but again we are paying third round cost for somebody 517 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: who was top ten in Fantasy points per game even 518 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: coming off this sixty forty split that everybody's afraid of. 519 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: It was sixty five or thirty five for the entire season. 520 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 3: But again in that second half of the year where 521 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: I'm talking about where it was actually more like the 522 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: sixty forty split people are afraid of, he was still 523 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: top seven running back. So to get him as a 524 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: fringe RB two, like I said, Chase Brown, I have 525 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 3: in front of him at this point, But to get 526 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: him as a fringe RB two or fringe RB one 527 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: slash two at this point, it's clearly top fifteen in 528 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: my opinion in the third round. That's really why I 529 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: like this pick, and that's why I came off with 530 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey in the first round because basically, as long 531 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: as Kien Williams stays in the third round, I'm taking 532 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: him every single time. And that's gonna let me take 533 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: a wide receiver in one of the first two rounds. 534 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: By the way, the ECR I hadn't mentioned. Loveland is 535 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: an ECR on Fantasy Pros half PPR forty one. Kien 536 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: Williams at thirty three, So you can see a little 537 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: bit of the connect there, all right, So points awarded two. 538 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: Drum roll Brown. We're gonna go Drek Brown on this one. 539 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Loveland on the board. I like 540 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: the Loveland pick. I think Loveland has a extreme chance 541 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: to lead this team in receptions. I know everybody's very 542 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: very high tight end. It's very big here. I like 543 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren as well, but like I liked Loveland and 544 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Warren both in these spots where I can get them, so, 545 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, third round. To Deebro's point, like I just 546 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: did a mock where I got I've gotten Loveland in 547 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: the fourth. It's decently falling into that spot, but it 548 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: was early fourth. He'll probably be in the third. I 549 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: don't mind Kyron too, you know, to your point, people 550 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: do make a big ado about the workloads, but it's 551 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: like he also just gets drives. He's gonna get an 552 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: entire drive. So if that's a you know, a successful 553 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: drive through which that team was one of the best 554 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: offenses out there, you know they're gonna continue rolling. He's 555 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of opportunities. I just don't buy too 556 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: much into like the whole split thing making him not worthwhile. 557 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: So he is worth it. But Deebro is on the 558 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: board with the first points that takes us to the 559 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: fourth round. We're gonna get wide receiver heavy as we 560 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: should Debro. Kick us off here. We got a couple 561 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: of wider s in the mid forties of ECR. Debro, 562 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: you're up for your fourth round. 563 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: I'm just not going to shut up talking about Jayleen Wattle. 564 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: I mean, i'd look at this is we're making the 565 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: exact same case. I feel like from that I made 566 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: previously about aj Brown, He's going from a run heavy 567 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: offense to a pass heavy offense, and that they're Denver 568 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: is going to continue chucking the ball, and now, oh 569 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 2: look at that. With their new OC they're actually talking 570 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: about they might be a really fast and up tempo 571 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: offense this year. So if that all happens, we could 572 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: get even more volume for Jayleen Wattle, going from the 573 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: twenty ninth ranked offense neutral passing rate to one that 574 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: was fourth in that metric last year, Denver was fourth 575 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: and passing attempts behind only the Cardinals, Cincy and Dallas 576 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: and Jillen. Wattle was elite last year and he stayed healthy. 577 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: He had a rib injury where he missed the final 578 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: game of the season, and outside of that, people can 579 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: miss me with the Wattle talk about, oh, he's never 580 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: healthy and stuff. Wattle was top twelve in every single 581 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: per route metric that I care about. Last year, he 582 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: was also better in all of those categories except for 583 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 2: route win rate, which Sutton beat him by point two percent. 584 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: So I'm not worried about Jalen Wattle this year in 585 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: the Denver passing attack and us getting jokerfied of like 586 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: the rug poll of like, oh well, we believe in 587 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: this guy, but then he's gonna be a part time 588 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: player and stuff. Sean Payton did all of that behind 589 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Sutton has been a clear focal point and a full 590 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: time player in that offense and the only one over 591 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: the last few seasons. That's going to change this year. 592 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: That passing attack is going to condense around Jalen Wattle 593 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: and Courtland Sutton. Wattle is going to be the clear 594 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 2: number one, and I think Waddle is going to put 595 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: up a wide receiver one season. 596 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: We're going to move from Jalen Waddle to Jake Your guy. 597 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: Your guy is very similar to the Travolta meme where 598 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: he's standing in the room and he's just like because 599 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: there's no one else really around. So I think that's 600 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: a really fantastic call. By the way, Yeah, our fresh prince, 601 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: that's a good one too. Yeah, look, yeah that's a 602 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: really good one. Uncle Ayuk is not coming around. But 603 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: what would you say here? Jake Terry McLaurin obviously is 604 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: who we're going to be talking about here. That is 605 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: yours at ECR forty seven, Wattle was forty four, so 606 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: both very close to each other. 607 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: Barely checks into the fourth round, and I'm willing to 608 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: take McLaurin all the time here. I like Wattle too, 609 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: but I think there's a little bit higher ceiling. I 610 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: talked about this on the show that I referenced earlier 611 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: to these guys when I did Pat Mayo's show, and 612 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: my hesitation with with Wattle versus McLaurin and others in 613 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: this tiers not what Wattle can do, and not that 614 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: he should be the one. I do think he'll be 615 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: the one. I think there's clearly more competition for targets 616 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: for Wattle, Whereas worst case scenario he's nineteen percent of 617 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: the target share, and I say that's worse. That's still 618 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: the hell of the target share. The best case. I 619 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 3: don't know if he gets to the upper twenties, but 620 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: that's where I'm going with this is mclaurin's getting the 621 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 3: upper twenties because you just you joked about it. Who 622 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: else are they throwing to if they bring in steph 623 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 3: On Diggs. I actually think you know we're gonna talk 624 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: about him later. I'm leaving that one for Debro because 625 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: I've talked about him a lot at this point too. 626 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 3: But I think that would be a perfect marriage of 627 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: need and somebody looking for a team. Still, but even so, 628 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: I still like McLaurin. And it's funny, like we watched 629 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: the McLaurin over the past two three seasons and it's 630 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: like they need to get somebody next to him to 631 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: free him up. Well, then that we need We don't 632 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: really need that because we just want to get all 633 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: the targets. 634 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: And it's back and forth. 635 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: How about just McLaurin is just McLaurin, Like, whether he 636 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: has somebody alongside of him or not, he's going to produce. 637 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: And actually, I think you could argue it both ways. 638 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: I think you could say somebody next to him frees 639 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: him up more so the targets come down, but it's 640 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: offset by the production on a per target basis. 641 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: If he has nobody alongside of him. 642 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the coverage will be tougher, but we've seen seasons 643 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: of him getting one hundred and twenty one hundred and 644 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: thirty targets and averaging eleven plus fantasy points per game, 645 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: which that's what he just needs to bounce back to 646 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 3: and he'll be a top twenty wide. 647 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 5: Receiver like he always was. 648 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: He in his worst season with the worst situation going on, 649 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 3: in a terrible quarterback situation, when Jaden Daniel is getting hurt, 650 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: he still had over nine fantacy points per game, which 651 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: is just kind of crazy to think about that somebody 652 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: could do that with how messy that team was last year. 653 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: So he's one of my favorite bounce backs this year, 654 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: and he's one of my favorite targets in this round. 655 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: That's a very very close one. It is a very 656 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: close one between these two wide receivers. The point Debro, 657 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with Deebro. Jalen Waddle is going to 658 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: be the pick. You guys have tied it up. I mean, 659 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: just trying to be nice. 660 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 2: I love just just all Jake, and it'll just be 661 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: like fourteen he picked me, Jake. 662 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: It's fine. Number two is coming back out again there, Jake. 663 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: I like mclorin and not having a lot of the 664 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, not having like target shared that he's gonna 665 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: be dealing with the ups and downs of like the 666 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: big weeks to the kind of small weeks that always 667 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: kind of stands out a little bit. They obviously brought 668 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: in I know, we're gona make a shot white this 669 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: big thing, but there's like safety net targets and if 670 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: they bring someone else in. But Coorn's great, But Jalen 671 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Waddle is finally going to play like. 672 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: With all the because I know this off the top 673 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: of my head to push back real quick. Twenty twenty four, 674 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: two years ago and Jayden and Daniel's rookie season, the 675 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: first two weeks were single digit performances. Do you know 676 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: how many had for the rest of the year too, 677 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: And that was what the quarterback Yeah yeah, single yeah yeah, sorry, yeah, 678 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: well those downs were really there two years ago. 679 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, all right. 680 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: So four picks in, we'll start picking up the pace 681 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: a little bit as we get through these rounds. These 682 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: guys are tied and we'll be going to the fifth round, 683 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: but we are giving you guys all of our top 684 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: targets or these guys are giving it lea their top 685 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: targets in each round. 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I think 704 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: this is the only instance, maybe there's one other and 705 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I am whoever would have said this. I would have 706 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: raised my hand for the point here, So this will 707 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: just be nullified. So Debra, why don't you kick it off? 708 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: You guys both are locking in in the fifth round, 709 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: becoming very popular. David Montgomery, Yeah, I just feel. 710 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: Like I'm drafting what is it, twenty twenty four Joe 711 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: Mixon with this pick. Dave Montgomery's a top twenty back 712 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: and he's got RB one upside. Man, he's gonna be 713 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: the engine of that offense. He was better than Woody 714 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: Marks on every single metric that you could pull up. 715 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: He's not washed. People look categorized Dave Montgomery as a 716 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: classic dead zone back. Okay, but classic dead zone backs 717 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: don't rank twelfth in yards of to contact per attempt 718 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: last year and twelfth and first downs per route run 719 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: and top twenty four yards per route run. So while 720 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: I agree you could frame we are drafting him because 721 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: he's gonna get a crap ton of volume and he 722 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: is the guy dead zone back. Nah, you're wrong if 723 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: you're saying that. 724 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: So, Jake, you guys locked into. You guys had the 725 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: option too to kind of move away and You guys 726 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: have even talked about that a little bit, but this 727 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: is one where you did not want to come off 728 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: of it. I love it. So fifth round, David Montgomery, 729 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: you're a total co sign here on one of the 730 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: best values in this round. 731 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, because let's even just say all those metrics don't 732 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: translate because he's now playing for the Texans. The offensive 733 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: line isn't as good, the offense isn't good, like whatever. 734 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: And what do you want to say is that I'm 735 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: going to come with the worst case scenario. 736 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 5: Okay, worst case scenario. 737 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: He's more efficient wood he marks because he is, He's 738 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: better than what he marks, and he gets the Woody 739 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: marks workload, which if you take that from the second 740 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: half of the season, essentially a week nine or ten 741 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: on whenever that shift happened, you're talking about somebody walking 742 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: into three hundred touches. Like I don't care who you are, 743 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: you could be Woody Marx and for three hundred touches, 744 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: you're going to be in the back end of the 745 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: RB two conversation, even if you only have five rushing 746 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: touchdowns in the year, because the volume is there. Do 747 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: we like love the fact that people are volume reliant. No, 748 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: but you know, Deebro kind of said it at the 749 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: top that kind of got Overlook, let's not pretend that 750 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Joe Mixon was lighting the like every single play on 751 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: two years ago when he was like getting all that workload. 752 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: He was kind of at the end of being Joe 753 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: Mixon at that point. So three hundred touches is three 754 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: hundred touches. I don't care what offense you're in, I'm 755 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: going to take you in that range of having the 756 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: top twenty four upside. 757 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: It's also kind of crazy think about like last year 758 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: as the secondary back in Detroit, it was the same 759 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: Adp roughly, you know what I mean, Like he's always 760 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: sitting in the twenties and it's just like, now he's 761 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: the guy. I guess you can make some cases, like 762 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: you said, like with what he marks or whatnot, but 763 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: he's like it's a worse offense, clearly, but it's like 764 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: he's the guy and he's same Adp. Everybody is worried. 765 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: That he's going to be bad bears Montgomery because they 766 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: remember the final two years that he was there. The 767 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: final two years was eleven point I forget seven or 768 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: something like that and ten I remember the last teams 769 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: was ten fancy points per game. Ten Fantasy points per 770 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: games put you in about RB twenty eight most years. 771 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: That's your worst case scenario here. 772 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for everybody at home, do you know why 773 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: Woody Marks wasn't good for fantasy? Has nothing to do 774 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: with the volume and everything like that. From week ten 775 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: to eighteen he scored two touchdowns. That's why Woody Marks 776 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: was not good for fantasy. 777 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 5: I heard that Dave Montgomery guy is good at that. 778 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hear the same thing, Jake. 779 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so easy stuff. You guys. Are we all completely 780 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: co signed here? So that's where like two and a 781 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: half now each Yeah, there's just no points. It's just nullified. 782 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: So you guys are gonna be We're not gonna get 783 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: into fractional stuff here. 784 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: Then well, he's winning the next round. I already know 785 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: where you're going. I've known you for too long, Welshay. 786 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: I know like I'm gonna be down three to two 787 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: after this round. 788 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. You got a really 789 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: good point to sell me here, because I'm not necessarily 790 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: sold by debro. Jake is making the case that you 791 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: are getting to run away with this because you are 792 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: going to be taking one of the most talked about players. 793 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: I think there's an element of polarizing as well. On 794 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: you're either all in or you're all out. I don't 795 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: see a lot of middle people on this one. So 796 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: in the sixth round ECR sixty four, your perfect pick. 797 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: Is who Facial Twoton my RB twenty two in my rankings, 798 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna have a fantastic season. Last 799 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: year he was stellar on a per touch basis. And 800 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: I care about this, and everybody at home should care 801 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: about this too, because James Gladstone and Liam Cohen care 802 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: about this. They've come out and said that they care 803 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: about the nerdy analytics about everything. Amongst fifty five qualifying 804 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: running backs, he was fifth in rushing success rate, eleventh 805 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 2: and miss tackles forced you look even with Chris Rodriguez. 806 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 2: Last year, Baseiel Tuton was a more efficient player near 807 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: the goal line and success rate, stuff rate anything you 808 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: basically want to pull up. So I'm not really worried 809 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: about the touchdown equity of Baseil Tuton versus Chris Rodriguez. 810 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: Is Rodriguez going to play a role in the scene, Sure, 811 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 2: but Baseiel Tuton. The other thing, like we've talked about 812 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: this on previous shows, Jake Chris Rodriguez, even if he 813 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: plays a role on early downs, he's not sniffing anything 814 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: in the passing game. And Basil Tutant, people can miss 815 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: me with the Quinn Allen. I can go through his 816 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: entire prospect profile and poke holes in it for days 817 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 2: about how people glombed onto counting stats and didn't look 818 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: at the raw efficiency that really wasn't there, never was there. 819 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: So I'm not worried about the Quinn Allen. BA Suton 820 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: is gonna explode in his second second season, and if 821 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have gotten hurt also towards the back end 822 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: of his rookie year, people would probably be talking about 823 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: Basil Tuton in a very different light because he was 824 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: starting to eat into more of Travis Atn's volume down 825 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: the stretch. Then he got hurt and we didn't see 826 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: what could have happened. 827 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna go from Bachelle Tuton very 828 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: very talked about to a player that you know, is 829 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: there a post hypenist that's going to go and it's 830 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: been kind of two years of blow is this going 831 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: to be get you've got a wide receiver at what 832 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: is it? ECR seventy one, So really getting down there, Jake, 833 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: so six round wide receiver ECR seventy one, give us 834 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: the name. 835 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 5: It's Marvin Harrison. 836 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: And because part of it is he's seventy one, he's 837 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: barely in the sixth round at this point because of 838 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: the disappointment. Let's be honest about it. Is everything we 839 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: thought about the limited what we thought limited deficiencies of 840 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 3: his game coming out of college have manifested themselves in 841 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: the NFL, like not the most precise routes, struggles to 842 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: get bumped off coverage, sometimes struggled for Kyler Murray to 843 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 3: find him. And let's be clear but that Kyla MraY 844 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: is not with the team anymore. And the height does 845 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: matter to a degree, like for like, nobody if the 846 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 3: entire offensive line is standing up, no quarterback in the 847 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: NFL can see over to the offensive line because nobody 848 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 3: is six or eight playing quarterback. However, it does matter 849 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 3: when you're under six feet because now you have to 850 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: kind of find lanes a little bit more because they 851 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 3: are bent over a little bit. But you get my 852 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 3: point is that Kyler Murray Drew Brees before him. All 853 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks they are under six ft. You have to 854 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: find more lanes. Well, that does take an effect, it does, 855 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: and part of it comes down to the fact of 856 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: what whether Murray and Hart Harrison were on the same page, 857 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 3: which I don't ever think that happened, because you go 858 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: back to Russell Wilson for the longest time with Tyer 859 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 3: Lockett with the Seahawks, they just knew what the other 860 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: person was thinking and where to go. And we've seen 861 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: that from quarterbacks before. 862 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: We all saw Kyler Murray. 863 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: Never look back to Marvin Harrison in a Week one 864 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 3: and Marvin Harrison essentially doing jumping Jackson the end zone. 865 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 5: But what Jacoby Brissett. 866 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 3: Came in and did, and everybody's telling them aut Oh, 867 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett playing from behind, all these losses, all these 868 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: throws and stuff like that. 869 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 5: Do we really think that's going to change this year? 870 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: No. I think the one question I will throw out 871 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 3: is play seventeen games, is he's the quarterback, whether healthy 872 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: or not. Do they make a change to say we're 873 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: not going to have percent after this year. All that 874 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 3: being said, there's about a four game sample size where 875 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: Brissett was starting, Michael Wilson and Marvin Harrison were healthy 876 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: for the entire game because they got banged up, more 877 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: so Marvin Harrison. But of that four game sample size, 878 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: you know who got treated as the number one, not 879 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson. It was Marvin Harrison with a twenty three 880 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: percent target share, Michael Wilson at thirteen percent. Trey McBride 881 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 3: still led at twenty six and change percent. Treated him 882 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: like what we wanted him to be like. Marvin Harrison 883 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: was the one. He had pull up the numbers right 884 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: now because I had him up earlier today and then 885 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: I forgot to memorize them. But eighteen for two fifty 886 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: six and two touchdowns, Michael Wilson in that same stretch 887 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: thirteen for one to seventy one in a big fat zero. 888 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 3: He also looked at Marvin Harrison in the red zone 889 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 3: in the end zone, which is something that Kyler Murray 890 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: was never doing. So I'm not saying Michael Wilson's a 891 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: bad pick at all, let me make that clear, But 892 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: I think we're now at the point that the value 893 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: is so low on Marvin Harrison and then we can 894 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 3: move faster for the later picks, But I think the 895 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: here is so low that Marvin Harrison is now worth 896 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: taking that gamble on us a sixth rounder as your 897 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 3: wire receiver two or three, because the talent is still there, 898 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: whether it finally capitalizes. 899 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, what is this third year? 900 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 4: Uh? 901 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 3: Maybe finally we get that top twenty twenty five performance. 902 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: You made me think when you talk about the height 903 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. By the way, I was like, who's the 904 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: tallest quarterback? And the one that came out in rock 905 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: Oswiler That's what came my mind from ASU, but he's not. 906 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: You want to take a guess the tallest quarterback in 907 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: NFL history was not brock Ossweiler. Yeah, it was in 908 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: the nineties. Uh, throwing out out there. 909 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 3: Spacing you know what, I'll be interested there, like why 910 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: seven footer has never tried to play quarterback? 911 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: Hollis was you want to take a guess at the 912 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the name and say, you want to 913 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: take a guess at the height? 914 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 5: Six or nine? 915 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Pretty close? Nine eight? It's six eight. It was six 916 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: eight Dan McGuire six. Yeah, are you going to say that? 917 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to say it. At nineteen ninety one, 918 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. That was, but I'm Fire's brother. I 919 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: don't think so. It could have been. So Dan Maguire, 920 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: the tallest quarterback when you're out there, uh, point is 921 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: going to d bro. Of course you did call it. 922 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: You didn't call it stealing. 923 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: My problem you gave me I would have gone that 924 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: long you gave. You made it sound like there was 925 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 3: a window to convince you into that one. 926 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go along with this. 927 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I can tell you died you made a great case, 928 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: and I will not deny that. Harrison, I actually think 929 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: is like a cool value this year. 930 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 3: Now everybody can skip my article at the Athletic next 931 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 3: week that's breakout wide Receivers and just jump right past 932 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison because I basically gave the entire breakdown. 933 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: So you did it great, But I don't like the 934 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: sixth round necessarily. And it's also a team that like 935 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: they clearly drafted running back so they can get away 936 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: from being the biggest pass heavy team. And Marvin Harrison's 937 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: not the number one on that team. I think Tuden's 938 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: got some issues too. I want to throw out I'm 939 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: not sure I'm like as much of a Chris Rodriguez 940 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: truth or anything like that. But I'm just not sure 941 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: that he's gonna just be handed the reins here. But 942 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: the difference is like Tudent can be drafted as a 943 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: lower end RB tw two or maybe even an RB three, 944 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's a lot more palatable. Though I 945 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: would say I think Marvin Harrison's upside might be the 946 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: biggest case here. It's just they're gonna pass less. And 947 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Wilson was a one and Trey McBride's 948 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: the real number one, and it's just messy there. 949 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: So and you're gonna sign step all the poop toot 950 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: and jokes that we've been making so far. 951 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: As Oh man, we've already we got to flush those 952 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: we're waiting. I'm sorry. Look God, okay, round seven, let's 953 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: go to round seven. Here, we're gonna get a new 954 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: position that's gonna check in. But deebro, you're gonna kick 955 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: us off here. ECR seventy seven is where you're gonna 956 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: be going with your seventh round pick. 957 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 2: You just talked about drafting a guy and has an 958 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: RB three that can produce, and I think he will 959 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: produce because I have him as an RB two of 960 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: my rankings as Tony Pollard, I just it's just free 961 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: money for me. Like we're talking about an improved offense. 962 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 2: Last year, he didn't score any touchdowns. He was forty 963 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: ninth in red zone touches last year because the team sucked. 964 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: And now with Brian Daveall Robert Sala there, they added 965 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: Wando Robinson draft to carneal Taate. I think they're going 966 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 2: to move the ball and be improved from an offense 967 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: that ranked thirtieth in points per game, thirty second in 968 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: redsone scoring attempts per game. Pollard's not dust. He was 969 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 2: twenty second in yards of the contact per attempt. And 970 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: this offensive line gets talked about in a very pecurious light, 971 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: like where they're like, oh, well they're not any good. Okay, fine, 972 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 2: Like you want to talk about pass protection, Sure we 973 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 2: can have more of a conversation there. Quietly, The Tennessee 974 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: Titans offensive line last year was thirteenth best in yards 975 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 2: before contact per attempt with an actual passing attack to 976 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: free up some running lanes. I think we could see 977 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: that metric improve even more this year. And Brian Daball 978 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: historically has leaned on one running back. You can look 979 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: back to the Giants tenure Non Saquon like it was 980 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: Devin Singletary until it was not, and then it was 981 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy and then last year was Cam's kataboo until 982 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't. And you go back even further in his tenure, 983 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, they drafted Zach Moss. He true, he 984 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 2: proved he couldn't be the guy. So Devin Singletary was 985 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: the clear workhorse running back prior to that, we go 986 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: all the way back to the Peyton Hill is here. Yeah, 987 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: Brian Daball was the OC for that, so he has 988 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 2: leaned on it. He wants one clear running back. It's 989 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: not Tajay Spears. So Tony Poward is going to get 990 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: the bulk of the work. He's going to produce as 991 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: an RB two this year. I just think he's a 992 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: screaming value in drafts. 993 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: All right, deebro went tight end in the third round. Jake, 994 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: you've not tackled that, and you know everybody's very high 995 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: in tight end. This is where you're going to check 996 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: in ECR eighty four. We got a tight end, but 997 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: who is it? 998 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 3: It's one that I think it might be frustration. Time 999 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: to take the value on and it's Sam Laporta. If 1000 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 3: you look at weeks five through ten, because Sam Laporta 1001 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 3: was struggling to be one hundred percent at the beginning 1002 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: of last year, and weeks five five is like four 1003 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 3: five six where people are speculating where he really got 1004 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 3: back to being Sam Laporta. It also came with I'm 1005 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 3: sure a lot of people remember the frustration where it 1006 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 3: started to mount of Jamison Williams, where we're hearing like, oh, 1007 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 3: maybe they need to change up and put the offensive 1008 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 3: cordera air calls back onto Campbell, which did happen. But 1009 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 3: Laporta also got hurt after week ten. But I'm bringing 1010 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 3: that sample off to say this, and it's always dangerous 1011 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 3: to project out a full season over a limited sample. 1012 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 3: Let me make that clear. I just want to pull 1013 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 3: it up for one reason, and one reason only, is 1014 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 3: that he was the second leading target getter and target 1015 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: sharing that team behind him around Saint Brown. It was 1016 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 3: twenty percent. You know who was third, Brock right, you 1017 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 3: know it was fourth Jamison Williams. And I'm not saying 1018 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 3: Jamison Williams is dead to us, but I have major 1019 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 3: concerns about Jamison Williams being what we wanted him to be. 1020 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 3: Cause I even made this joke on Twitter. I think 1021 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 3: it was a year and a half ago. It's like 1022 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 3: we finally got the Jameson Williams breakout. What did it 1023 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: cost you? It was the meme from Avengers and all 1024 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 3: that type of stuff. Is it cost you Sam Laporta? 1025 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 3: But a healthy Sam Laporta and what they were doing 1026 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 3: last year and you now have this pet seeing situation 1027 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 3: which is clearing things up for Laporta to be the 1028 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 3: number two? Is that that kind of volume that he 1029 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 3: was seeing. It wasn't immense, but it was enough that 1030 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 3: you projected out to eighty oney ten over a full season. 1031 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 5: Again, I'm not saying Sam laport is gonna get eighty. 1032 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 3: Catches, one thousand yards and ten touchdowns, but even if 1033 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: he was to be the number two and get in 1034 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: a realm of ninety percent of that production, we're talking 1035 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 3: about the reporter that we used to love, and we're 1036 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 3: drafting super high a few years ago, top three tight 1037 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 3: end potential, but guess where he's going round seven. So 1038 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 3: that's really where I'm going to the Porter, because I 1039 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: really do believe, as of today, I might be wrong 1040 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 3: on this one. But I will say this. I won't 1041 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: even say like I might be wrong if you told 1042 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: me he's playing seventeen games, because that's the risk I 1043 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 3: would bet money today. Laporte is the number two target 1044 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 3: earner on this team. 1045 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I fully agree with that, because. 1046 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 5: He outside of jam Or Gibbs. To make that clear, 1047 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 5: ECR eighty. 1048 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 1: Four, Jake was down one point going into round seven. 1049 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: He is now down two point two pointcause I'm gonna 1050 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: go with Tony. 1051 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 3: Pollard as soon as you set that up that way, I. 1052 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: Set it up. I'm a professional here, Jake. 1053 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 3: I know I've been around, Like I've hung out with 1054 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 3: this guy in life in person in Arizona, so I 1055 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 3: knew where he's going, Like we share gelato. 1056 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, but Tony Pollard, I think is I could 1057 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: not agree more. It's one of my favorite picks. No no, no, no, no, 1058 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: little germ guy over there, so that's not gonna happen. 1059 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: But I have like minimal interests in like the middle 1060 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: line tight ends. We need to move on. 1061 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 3: Do you remember the very first thing you saw me 1062 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 3: do when we met in person? 1063 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: We sat down at the restaurants or something. 1064 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, we no, we said hi and everything. 1065 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 3: We sat down at the table and ordered the food 1066 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 3: in bro pulled out the hand he pulled out the 1067 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 3: hand sanitizer before Oh, and. 1068 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: I think I hugged I think I hugged Jake because 1069 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: that's not like Jake's biggest thing, because the hand sanitizer 1070 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I knew it would make him feel uncomfortable. 1071 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: So I just like got in and did a big hug. 1072 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: So you hugged him? 1073 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: Did he take his shirt off after that? 1074 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 4: Like? 1075 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Okay. Now we're but point Tony 1076 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: Pollard here. That's where we're gonna go. So Jake is down, 1077 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to make a little bit of a comeback. 1078 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: It is four to two, d bro as we are 1079 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: going to move into now the quicker rounds is we're 1080 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: going to get eight, nine to ten and then finishing 1081 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: off and looking at the teams. 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Eighth round. 1097 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: We got three again quicker hitters that we're gonna get 1098 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: here because we're getting to the back end of what 1099 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: this team is going to look like. Debro kick us 1100 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: off here in the eighth round. We're in the eighties 1101 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: mid eighties for both on the ECR. Who do you 1102 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: got upside for days? 1103 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 2: Baby? It's Parker Washington. If he could replicate what he 1104 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 2: did on the back half of last year, he could 1105 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 2: be one of those league winning type of players. I 1106 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 2: mean Week sixteen through nineteen twenty two point three PPR 1107 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: points per game. I'm not saying that he replicates all that, 1108 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: but like a four games, the dude just soaking up 1109 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: high cholesterol usage, six reds on targets, thirteen deep targets. 1110 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 2: He had a twenty eight point nine percent target share. 1111 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 2: He had three point seven eight yards per route run. 1112 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 2: Like all these are elite numbers, guys, this is aman 1113 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown type of stuff. But you're paying for 1114 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 2: it in the eighth round and where it's like all 1115 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: the risk is baked in for Parker Washington, but all 1116 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 2: of this upside it's not so enjoy. 1117 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: All right, Parker Washington at eighty nine, Thank you. It's 1118 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: so nice to say. Enjoy. Jake, who are you gonna 1119 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: go with in the eighth round? 1120 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, similar to you're getting all the upside here is 1121 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 3: that Jackson Darkins danged for the first two games for 1122 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 3: whatever reason, first because he stepped on the field. Those 1123 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 3: weren't the two games that really go to anything that 1124 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 3: he was playing. Because if you take it, starts twenty 1125 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 3: fantasy points per game for Jackson Dart and that's twenty 1126 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 3: fantasy points per game with what everybody wants to complain 1127 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 3: about for this year, what about his receiving court, Well, 1128 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: he didn't have Milik Neighbors but for one game last 1129 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 3: year that they've played together. So if you look at 1130 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 3: the entire situation, I don't need Jackson Dart to be 1131 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 3: the most amazing passer. I just need Jackson Dart. 1132 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 1: To be healthy. 1133 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 3: I will admit that he needs to be healthy. But 1134 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,760 Speaker 3: similar to I don't know if everybody's heard from Harbaugh recently, 1135 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 3: but he said that he kind of did an eye 1136 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 3: roll and scoffed about the same thing people said about 1137 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson for the longest time. It's like they're gonna run, 1138 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 3: but they're also smart. They're not the most dangerous. They're 1139 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 3: not Robert Griffin like going out there. He's not Cam Scataboo. 1140 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 3: So you give me Jackson Dart at quarterback in this offense, 1141 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 3: with or without Malak Neighbors, twenty fantasy points per game, 1142 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: with the potential for more because he's gonna be running 1143 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 3: for six, seven, eight hundred yards. Jackson Dart in this 1144 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 3: range is like I'll wait on quarterback for. 1145 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: This razor razor thin here and the point it's gonna 1146 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 1: go to debro again. This is super coost. Is Debro 1147 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: gonna run away with this? I don't hate this, Jackson Dart, 1148 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 1: but similar well hold on almost on. 1149 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: This sheet, just for full transparency. It's a good call too. 1150 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 3: And my only this could be the end, like the 1151 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 3: full team rosters counts for five points, so I can 1152 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 3: make the comeback. 1153 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh that would actually we well we can let the 1154 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: audience score. 1155 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well number one f is. 1156 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 1: The thing is is kind of similar to the tight ends, 1157 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: where it's like, if I'm living in the high end, 1158 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: I can stomach that, but when you get into those 1159 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: middle rounds, I'm not sure. I feel super compelled to 1160 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: make a higher investment on those middle guys, knowing that 1161 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, behind us, after Jackson's art, you still got 1162 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: the rock parties of the world. If you want to 1163 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: even go later, I mean, gloss over Kyler Murray. But 1164 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray, we know what that upside can be. 1165 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,760 Speaker 1: I just feel that there's. 1166 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 3: Only one and Debro has it later that I think 1167 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 3: has twenty points per game at this point left it's 1168 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart and one other quarterback that has twenty points 1169 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 3: per game upside. 1170 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't hate it. I'm just saying 1171 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily where I'm at. Parker Washington definitely has 1172 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: a chance to be the near at the top guy there. 1173 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Parker Washington. Debro is now 1174 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: up three points, gonna have to make a comeback. Will 1175 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: it happen in round nine? You guys are both gonna 1176 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: go with some wide receivers. We have an ECR of 1177 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 1: ninety eight and we have an e SCRAF one oh six, 1178 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 1: so we're really gonna be opening it up here, Deebro, 1179 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: why don't you kick us off with the ninth round? 1180 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: Perfect pick. 1181 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 2: I have not talked about him, I think, on any 1182 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 2: shows previously, so I wanted to really bring him up here. 1183 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 2: I'm all in on Quentin Johnston this year. I'm not 1184 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: paying the price tag for Lad McConkey because I don't 1185 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 2: think you're getting the real wide receiver one for the 1186 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 2: Chargers if you're paying up for Lad McConkey. You look 1187 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: at QJ season last year. Weeks one through four he 1188 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: was healthy, Week five he had a hamstring issue, he 1189 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: missed week six. Weeks seven and eight, his snap rates 1190 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 2: were down, and if you look at his target shares, 1191 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 2: his first read share like basically throw out weeks five 1192 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 2: through eight because the usage clearly says he was not 1193 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: healthy because it was a massive outlier. So if you 1194 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 2: just look at the parts of last season, we can 1195 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 2: project that QJ was actually healthy or close to that. 1196 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 2: So weeks one through four and nine through eighteen, Quentin 1197 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 2: Johnson earned a twenty point three percent target share. He 1198 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: had one point eight three yards per route run, twelve 1199 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 2: reds on targets, seventeen deep targets, he forced a mistackle 1200 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: on twenty seven percent of his opportunities, and he had 1201 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 2: a twenty four point eight percent first read Chare I 1202 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 2: bring all of those numbers up because he led the 1203 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 2: whole freaking team in every single one of those categories. 1204 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 2: He was their clear wide receiver one oh while also 1205 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 2: averaging thirteen point nine PPR points per game in those games, 1206 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 2: which last year, if you put it up against everybody else, 1207 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 2: would have made in the wide receiver sixteen in fantasy 1208 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: points per game. So, if you want Lad McConkie production, 1209 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 2: but you don't want to pay the Ladd mconkee price tag, 1210 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 2: this year, draft Quentin Johnston Jake. 1211 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: You're up. You have the first player with the outside 1212 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: the top one hundred ECR. Here in the ninth round, 1213 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver has mentioned who do we have so I win, Yay. 1214 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 3: It really comes down to us the forgotten Jordan Edison 1215 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 3: at this point, who had over ten and eleven Fantasy 1216 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 3: points game to start his career. And I know a 1217 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 3: lot of people are gonna be like, well, you know 1218 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins in this offense and back at the time 1219 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 3: and the touchdowns were reallying. Yeah, he was touchdowning line. 1220 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,439 Speaker 3: But I mean Kyler Murray for everything that people wanted 1221 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 3: to say about JJ McCarthy is like middle of the 1222 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 3: pack quarterback play. Jordan Aison's gonna be relevant. Does he 1223 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 3: get ten eleven touchdowns? 1224 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: Probably not. 1225 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 3: But if you look at Kyler Murray back when he 1226 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 3: was playing well, which is a big question mark, you 1227 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 3: go back even just heck, Marvin Harrison's rookie season, which 1228 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 3: we just talked about earlier in the show, how bad 1229 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 3: it was, and the connection was he was the number 1230 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 3: two behind Trey McBride had eight touchdowns and his rookie 1231 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 3: year not even on one hundred targets. Because that's kind 1232 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 3: of that mold of that second option, which I think 1233 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 3: that's one of the similarities I like here is that 1234 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson's gonna be fine, but Jordan Addison and Marvin 1235 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 3: Harrison kind of replicate what Harrison did in his rookie season, 1236 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 3: what Kyler Murray did with Harrison, to what Harrison or 1237 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 3: Addison can do with Kyler Murray now with the Vikings. 1238 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,240 Speaker 3: So the way this goes wrong is that Hockinson bounces 1239 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 3: back and ends up being the number two where they 1240 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 3: siphon off each other because there's not really going to 1241 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 3: be a reliable third option with Colin Murray. 1242 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: I'll admit that. 1243 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 3: I think we would be shocked if it was. I'm 1244 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: not gonna say it's a non zero chance, but I'm 1245 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 3: just looking at Addison at this range, ninth round for 1246 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 3: somebody that was not just top forty, not just top thirty. 1247 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 3: He was top twenty five the first two years of 1248 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 3: his career, and then worst case scenario last year, which 1249 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 3: we just had happen, he was still a wide receiver 1250 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 3: FORIGN Fantasy points per game, as bad as it was, 1251 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 3: so Jordan ass in this range, I think is just 1252 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 3: buying all the ceiling potential here. 1253 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: I think these guys are I know, like physically don't 1254 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: look like it, but it's a little Spider Man Mimi 1255 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: where they're just like, it's kind of the same type 1256 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: of value and the comeback starts. Now, Jake Seely with 1257 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: the point. Jake Seely's gonna get the point here. I 1258 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: think it's really close. I do think Juwan Jennings going 1259 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: into Minnesota creates like a little bit of a question, 1260 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: but there's just such big play there. Obviously some big 1261 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: play with Quintin Johnson. You know when he shows up, 1262 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: sometimes he disappears, sometimes he pops up. I will say 1263 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 1: that Addison. 1264 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 3: If Juwan Jennings, I would be shocked if it happens, if 1265 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 3: they start floating out that they're rotating being on the 1266 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 3: field in two wide sets, I'll be off Jordans and 1267 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 3: in a heartbeat like definite, there's be clear. 1268 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 6: I agree with that. 1269 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it'll be a lot of free 1270 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the tenth round before we are gonna stack. 1271 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna be stacking the eleven through the fourteenth together 1272 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: the tenth round. Here one eighteen and one ten on 1273 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: the ECR de bro you are jumping back in the 1274 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: tight end streets here. This is one of Bogman's favorite 1275 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: players this year. 1276 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 2: So hit us if you don't want to pay up 1277 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 2: for tight end this year, and it's you're like I am, 1278 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 2: and it's like, Oh, it's Brock or it's Loveland or 1279 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 2: it's worn, and then you're just punting the position you 1280 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 2: need to be draft in. Isaiah Likely. I think he's 1281 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 2: gonna be the clear number two on this passing attack. 1282 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: And that's assuming Neighbors is on the field. Neighbors starts 1283 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 2: on the pup or missus time this year, which is 1284 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 2: firmly possible right now for what we know. What we 1285 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 2: don't know, isa likely could be the number one target, 1286 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 2: and I'll just throw twenty twenty five in the trash can, 1287 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 2: crushed by a foot injury. I don't think he was 1288 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 2: close to being his actual like self on the field 1289 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 2: at all throughout the entire of the season. Twenty twenty 1290 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,240 Speaker 2: four fifty seven qualifying tight ends is is a likely 1291 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 2: seventeen the targets per route run, tenth in yards per 1292 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 2: route run, eight, the first downs per route run. I've 1293 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 2: got him as a top twelve tight end to my 1294 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 2: rankings at tight end eight, and you get free access 1295 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: to a tight end one in the later rounds s easy. 1296 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: Jake one ten in the tenth round, here wide receiver 1297 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: pick for you, your perfect pick, the value you like 1298 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: in the tenth round. 1299 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 3: If you can tell me I can get a double 1300 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 3: digit round wide receiver with the potential for one hundred targets, 1301 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 3: that's a handful of people, and this is one of 1302 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 3: the ones that falls into that handful. And it's Josh 1303 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 3: Downs who did it two years ago. And the reason 1304 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 3: I bring up two years ago is because two years ago, 1305 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 3: with just barely over one hundred targets, ten and a 1306 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 3: half fantasy points per game, which, by the way, most 1307 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 3: year ten and a half fantasy points per game checks 1308 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 3: you in as a solid wide receiver three. Worst case scenario, 1309 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 3: you're usually wide receiver thirty five, thirty six. And I'm 1310 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 3: looking at this roster and yeah, I do like Tyler 1311 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 3: Warren two. But if Daniel Jones is anything healthy to 1312 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 3: start this year, it's one of the three options as 1313 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 3: Josh Downs, and it's going to be, in my opinion, 1314 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 3: a very narrowed target share between Pierce, Downs, and Warren. 1315 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 3: And you also have the upside here of this late 1316 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 3: offseason injury news to Al Pierce becomes a factor earlier 1317 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 3: in the year and Down starts off the years potential. Hey, 1318 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 3: he's the target leader with Tyler Warren and all of 1319 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 3: a sudden, guess what, you got a great trade chip 1320 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: on your hand because you can get off of them 1321 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 3: before Alec Pierce is one hundred percent, where like, oh 1322 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 3: my god, if if Josh Downs starts off as a 1323 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 3: top twenty five wide receiver, you sell high immediately. That clear, 1324 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 3: but that's the upside potential to boot on top of it. 1325 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: The reason I like I didn't like the Laporta thing 1326 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: is I like the idea of being able to take Likely. 1327 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: It's something I'm really into this year too. Is like 1328 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 1: maybe sing Likely and Kittle, you know, like you can 1329 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 1: get Kittle and you can buy Likely for the early 1330 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, you probably drive them around the same spot, 1331 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: but you can kind of stack those guys. 1332 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 3: And that he might be the giants and targets like 1333 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 3: definite possibility. 1334 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: But also it's Josh Down's point for for Jake, I 1335 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: would give you two points if I can on this. 1336 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: This is probably one of my favorites. 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Jake is down by one point 1397 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: here and you have your three picks, So Debro, I'm 1398 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: just we're nixing eleventh round is Jonathan Brooks. By both 1399 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: of you, you can do a quick little aside on him, 1400 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: give us your three picks with a quick little breakdown 1401 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: of the three players you took eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen. 1402 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan Brooks. Jake and I have talked about him 1403 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 2: on a ton of shows. I think everybody on the 1404 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 2: entire network has talked about him. So it's just free access, 1405 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 2: free upside. My guy in round twelve is Malik Willis. 1406 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't understand why we're drafting him so late. Like 1407 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 2: we've forgotten in twenty twenty six what the Konami code 1408 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: still is. You can hate Miami Dolphins, you can hate 1409 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 2: all that, it still doesn't change the fact that Malik 1410 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Willis is going to freaking run this year, and if 1411 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 2: he runs this year, you're getting a QB two that 1412 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 2: has top twelve upside. It's there's no way around it, man. 1413 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 2: I'd like thirteenth round cam Ward Again. If I'm waiting 1414 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 2: on quarterbacks, I want an upside shot at like who 1415 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 2: could be this year is Caleb Williams in the sense 1416 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 2: of massively improved dolphinse and you don't have to play 1417 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 2: the whole carausel of is it a one Del Robinson game. 1418 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Jake, you've talked about this like you just 1419 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 2: enjoy the production from the quarterback and don't worry about 1420 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 2: the wide receivers and stuff. By the kick exactly, I 1421 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 2: was waiting for you to throw that in there. I 1422 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 2: was like, I can't remember what exactly, Jake hard pick 1423 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 2: over and over again. 1424 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 5: I'll bring that T shirt exactly. 1425 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: But that's the point, though. You can get all of 1426 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 2: the great returns on an improved offense by drafting Tony 1427 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Pollard or cam Ward this year. And the last guy 1428 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: that I'm bringing up Stefan Diggs in Round fourteen. As 1429 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 2: soon as he gets signed by a team, he will 1430 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 2: not be here. So if you were doing early redraft, 1431 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: if you were doing best ball drafts, draft him now 1432 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 2: because he produces a wide receiver two last year on 1433 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 2: a per route basis. I think the route share is 1434 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 2: going up this year if he lands with the Commanders. 1435 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 2: We're discussing a player that's going to be a wide 1436 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 2: receiver three in ranks that has wide receiver two upside, 1437 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 2: same thing if he lands with the Raiders or the Colts, 1438 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 2: or any of a number of offenses where he has 1439 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 2: clear access to either be the wide receiver two or 1440 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 2: the clear wide receiver one for a defense. 1441 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: All right, Jake, we know you're taking Jonathan Brooks in 1442 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: the eleventh. Feel free to throw a nugget in there, 1443 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: but you got twelve, thirteen, and fourteen. How are you 1444 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: finishing this off? 1445 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonathan Brooks, and I know everybody out there at 1446 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 3: this point in the comments is be like, man, we 1447 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,479 Speaker 3: keep talking about him on this channel, but it really 1448 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 3: just comes down to the upside. If he's anything close 1449 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 3: to one hundred percent, he could take this job mid 1450 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 3: season if he climbs up to the eighth round. I 1451 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 3: can understand pulling off of him. It's just really the 1452 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 3: truth about how much the value is there. Right now. 1453 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 3: We're drafting back up, clear backup running backs on other 1454 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 3: situations like Blake Korman Kalman on Guy rounds earlier, and 1455 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 3: Jonathan Brooks is in that bucket even if he doesn't 1456 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 3: take the job. So that's kind of the value there. 1457 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with somebody that I know a 1458 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 3: lot of people on this network love as well. Is 1459 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 3: Jalen Coker just in this range I was thinking of 1460 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 3: because we talk about Coker a lot, also saying Jadan Higgins, 1461 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 3: those are my two favorite wide receivers to be drafting 1462 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 3: in this round, is that potential number two is on 1463 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 3: their team. The one thing that I like a little 1464 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 3: bit more about Coker than I do Higgins, despite I 1465 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 3: like Higgins in a situation better, is that I know 1466 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 3: Coker is the two. The Panthers gave him that contract 1467 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 3: when they didn't need to, and they told us he's 1468 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 3: our number two. Jan Higgins, I believe is the number two. 1469 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 3: But but Jalen Nole and potentially tanked LB one hundred percent. 1470 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 3: There's more options there. So that's the only offset of 1471 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 3: why I would take Coker slightly over Higgins round thirteen. 1472 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 3: You know I had this here before the news broke 1473 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 3: because I've been bringing them up a lot on this 1474 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 3: show in other networks. Is like, why is Alvin Kamara 1475 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 3: in round thirteen? I understand he's not Alvin Kamara anymore, 1476 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: but he is directly behind Travis etn He's still going 1477 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 3: to get uses in the passing game. They just reworked 1478 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 3: his deal because he's not going anywhere. They tried, admittedly 1479 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 3: they tried, but he's not going anywhere. And if we're 1480 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 3: talking about backups that potentially take over if the lead 1481 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 3: gets hurt and Travis at Chen now gets hurt, then 1482 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 3: Kamara in the thirteenth this is not going to stay here. 1483 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 3: K Kamara is going to move up now to the 1484 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 3: contract and he's officially here. And then the last one is, yeah, 1485 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 3: I did a show with Debro I said Stefan Diggs 1486 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 3: and the Commanders. I'd be rooting for it, and if 1487 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 3: he assigned, he would immediately jump eight to eighth, ninth round. 1488 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 3: It was somebody that was actually top forty in Fantasy 1489 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 3: points per game last year. But the other one I 1490 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 3: haven't brought up a lot, and I wanted to bring 1491 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 3: this one up as Keaton Mitchell, not just for the 1492 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 3: fact that it could be a bigger time share than 1493 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 3: people want to give credit for, because it is the Chargers, 1494 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 3: this is Mike McDaniel and an offense that already splits 1495 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 3: the backfield. 1496 01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: And if it's. 1497 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Sixty forty, still great for Hampton's potential RB one, But 1498 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 3: Keaton Mitchell could have standalone flex value, especially from an 1499 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 3: offensive Cordinerator came to this team, went around the entire 1500 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 3: stadium putting up wanted posters for Keaton Mitchell and alec 1501 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Ingold because he wanted them on this team. And the 1502 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 3: GM said, you know what, cool, I'll trust you. You 1503 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,479 Speaker 3: can bring in Keaton Mitchell, and Mike McDaniel gets Keaton 1504 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 3: Mitchell and what he can potentially do with his running backs. 1505 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 3: Like I said, you're looking at potential standalone RB three 1506 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 3: value in round fourteen for running back, So I'm taking 1507 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 3: a lot of Keaton Mitchell. 1508 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: All right. It went into the eleventh round five to 1509 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: four in favor of Debro. You guys who nullified, You're 1510 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: gonna say six sex, aren't you? No? No nullified in 1511 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: round eleven. In round twelve, Debro gets the point, so 1512 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: he is now up six four for Malik Willis as 1513 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: one of my favorite later quarterbacks. Seally is gonna easily 1514 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: get the point in round thirteen with Alvin Kamara has 1515 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 1: been talking about this and I think this makes sense. 1516 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: So it is now six or five. Debro is up 1517 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 1: with the final pick in Debro is our winner. Debro 1518 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: is gonna have to win this one with Stephan Diggs. 1519 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't hate Keaton Mitchell. Seely, I don't hate Keaton Mitchell. 1520 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to play something out time out. 1521 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 3: I stole his round twelve pick and don't get the point. 1522 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 3: He steals my round fourteen pick and gets the point 1523 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 3: like that. 1524 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 5: I just want to I just want to point that 1525 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 5: out there. 1526 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 1: I just I mean, this is what I'm going to say. 1527 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 2: I thought Willis was gonna build it up, and in 1528 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 2: the end we were just tying and I was like, well. 1529 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: Wait, we were heading towards that direction. 1530 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Now give me the five point bonus for the roster construction. 1531 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is out there, but we'll put it out 1532 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: here for you. You guys can score this yourselves in 1533 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: the comments below. You can tell us what you liked 1534 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 1: about each round, what does the score look like, and 1535 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: should we have a bonus. Because let's take a look 1536 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 1: at the teams here. When we get the teams up 1537 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: here is at least the Welsh winning team. This is 1538 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Debro's team, which ended up at quarterback you had Malik 1539 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Willis and Cam Ward's a really really late quarterback. The 1540 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: running backs you pieced together were James Cook, David Montgomery, 1541 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 1: Basehell toot and Tony Pollard and Jonathan Brooks. That's powerhouse 1542 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: set of running backs, wide receiver jal aj Brown, Jalen Wattle, 1543 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 1: Parker Washington, Quentin Johnson, Stefan Diggs, and a tight end 1544 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: Colson Lovelan and Isaiah Likely. Obviously we talked about where 1545 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 1: they all went per round. That is the Debro team. 1546 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: When we look at Jake's team, one quarterback in Jackson 1547 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Dart kind of the play here too. If you're gonna 1548 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: have a higher investment, don't try to jump back in 1549 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: running backs really strong Chase Brown, Kiren Williams, David Montgomery, 1550 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks, Kamara and Keaton Mitchell. And definitely on the 1551 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers, Poka Nakua, Terry McLaurin, Marvin Harrison, Jordan Addison, 1552 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Josh down is probably my favorite of this Coker and 1553 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: Sam Laporte at tight end. Do we do a five 1554 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: point team bonus? Well, if we do, and you guys 1555 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: vote for it, then you also got to tell us 1556 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 1: which team you like, you guys for the five j's. 1557 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if you notice how many j's I 1558 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 3: have on my team too. For the Jakes team. Oh, 1559 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 3: it's all the Yeah Jackson, Jonathan, Jordan's, Josh and Jalen, 1560 01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 3: all the J's. 1561 01:06:58,800 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 5: Let's rack them up. 1562 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Are there any d bros? There is an AJ Brown 1563 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: which has the bro in there. Debro So I see 1564 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the iterations here, but you guys can comment below what 1565 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: did you guys think? What do you think about this blueprint? 1566 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: These are the blueprints of like the perfect picks in 1567 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: each round of how you construct. Obviously, again this wasn't 1568 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: like a thousand percent meant to be like this is 1569 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: the team. It was looking about the rounds. But this 1570 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 1: is when when you kind of hyper focus in and 1571 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 1: you just look at the rounds, you make the picks, 1572 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 1: and then you look at the team, you can see 1573 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: what that construction is and maybe what changes you guys 1574 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: want to end up doing. You can also implement. You 1575 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,919 Speaker 1: can take all of these picks and you can play 1576 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: around and see what works most for you. 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You can play around 1581 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 1: with mocks, play around with these picks, see how it 1582 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 1: grades out, and then you could do five or six 1583 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 1: and like thirty minutes, or you can start getting your 1584 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: friends in, So jump in. 1585 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 6: Do that. 1586 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: Get the ultimate fantasy toolkit right now at fantasypros dot 1587 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: com slash Draft Wizard, or go to the Fantasy Pros app. 1588 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: The Athletics own Jake Sealey, Fantasy Pros own Debro and 1589 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: me Chris Wels. That's it for you on the Fantasy 1590 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: Football Podcast. Thank you guys so much for hanging with us. 1591 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Let's see your blueprints, let's hear how you scored it, 1592 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,600 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next time right here on 1593 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros. 1594 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 6: Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. 1595 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 6: If you love the show, the best freeway to support 1596 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,600 Speaker 6: us is by leaving a positive review on Apple podcasts 1597 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 6: at Fantasypros dot com, slash review or on Spotify. 1598 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: Follow us on 1599 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 6: X, Instagram and TikTok at Fantasy Pros, and subscribe to 1600 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,560 Speaker 6: our YouTube channel at YouTube dot com slash Fantasypros