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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily a body here. You are listening to

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Speaker 2: episode three hundred and twenty eight of Hurdle, a wellness

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Speaker 2: focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people about everything

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Speaker 2: from their highest highs and toughest moments to essential tips

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Speaker 2: on how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life.

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Speaker 2: We all go through our fair share of hurdles. My

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Speaker 2: navigate yours and move with intention so that you can

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Speaker 2: stride towards your own big potential and of course have

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Speaker 2: some fun along. Okay, I am beyond elated today to

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Speaker 2: bring you my live podcast from New York City Marathon

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Speaker 2: week with Olympians Josh Kerr and Shari Hawkins. I had

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to chat with them at the Brooks Hyperion

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Speaker 2: from their big wins and how they've gotten through life's

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Speaker 2: such a public manner, I really appreciated Josh's sentiments about

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Speaker 2: hard work and oh my goodness, Shari opening up about

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Speaker 2: these are two unbelievable individuals. Shari's track record includes fifteen

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Speaker 2: medals and to simply be a heptathlete that blows my

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Speaker 3: And then, of course Josh. I mean in twenty twenty one, he.

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Speaker 2: show notes. With that, let's get to it. Let's get

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Speaker 2: to hurdling. Thank you so much for.

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Speaker 2: How are we feeling? I, like many of you, will

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Speaker 2: please welcome Shari Hawkins and a Josh Kerr. Feel free

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Speaker 3: It takes a second. We're good. I know.

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Speaker 4: I know Josh I may just drink some caffeine before

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Speaker 2: Let's give it up. I am going to start just

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Speaker 2: It's not often that you get to completely execute on

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Speaker 1: instead of just letting myself like letting myself do something,

443
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Speaker 1: I always have to try to think my way through it.

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Speaker 1: So as much as it sounds like I know exactly

445
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about, and I'm also like hashtag jealous

446
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Speaker 1: that you have that ability to do that, but it's

447
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Speaker 1: actually like quite an intelligent thing to be able to

448
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Speaker 1: turn your brain off when it comes to performance, because

449
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Speaker 1: that's the way that you get into that flow state.

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Speaker 4: You can never think your way into it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just like you just have to get into

452
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Speaker 6: your lane and you're like, okay, I'm great at running,

453
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Speaker 6: and so just stick your head down and do that,

454
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Speaker 6: and then everyone around you is kind of like your parents, like, yeah,

455
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Speaker 6: it takes a village.

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Speaker 5: Real helicopter parents kind of thing. So I think, I

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Speaker 5: think that's really it.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, we're pretty dialed in with everything

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Speaker 6: that we do, but it takes time to get to

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Speaker 6: where we were at.

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Speaker 5: And I worked really hard.

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Speaker 6: We have a nutritionist and he's amazing, but it was

463
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Speaker 6: one of those things where I was like, I don't

464
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Speaker 6: really want to count my macros and I'm you know,

465
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Speaker 6: I'm not grey at it and takes a lot of

466
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Speaker 6: mental like okay, like how many how many chicken breasts

467
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Speaker 6: do I have to have this time? You know, it's

468
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Speaker 6: it's kind of frustrating. So you know, now I don't

469
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Speaker 6: need to count. That's awesome, But yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 6: like a big thing for me. And you know, obviously

471
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Speaker 5: And you know my Injurie rates super low.

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Speaker 2: be remiss not to go into the avenue of self talk,

502
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Speaker 2: especially because there are so many marathoners in this room

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Speaker 2: right now. Something that you both have had to work

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Speaker 2: on a fair amount, I am sure, especially performing in

505
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Speaker 2: such high pressure situations. How do you flip that self

506
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Speaker 2: talk to be positive when those negative thoughts are creeping in? Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'll start.

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Speaker 1: With you, okay, So like the first thing that came

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Speaker 1: to mind for me specifically, and Josh touched on this

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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier when he talked about like being

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Speaker 1: aware of your thoughts and then shifting them right. For example,

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Speaker 1: my eight hundred, I was actually this year the most

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Speaker 1: fit I've ever been. I had been working harder on

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Speaker 1: the eight hundred than I had ever worked in my

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Speaker 1: entire life.

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Speaker 4: But also there was something missing.

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Speaker 1: When I would compete, all of a sudden, my brain

518
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Speaker 1: would just like not do what it needed to do

519
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Speaker 1: and I couldn't control it and I would just die,

520
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Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: So when it was time for the Olympic trials, I

522
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Speaker 1: had quite a bit of I did such so well

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Speaker 1: in my other events that I had quite uh buffer.

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Speaker 4: I had quite a buffer, thank you.

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Speaker 1: But however, if I were to have done what I

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Speaker 1: had been doing that year in the in the eight hundred,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to make the team. That's how rough

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Speaker 1: it had been so there was so much what if

529
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Speaker 1: I mess all of this up right now?

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Speaker 4: So much of it that it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I remember I read this book one time that said, like,

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Speaker 1: do you think Olympians are sitting there crying? And I

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Speaker 1: was like, I hope so, because I I've been doing

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Speaker 1: a lot of that lately.

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Speaker 4: And then I learned, yeah, it's they do.

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Speaker 1: Olympians cry a lot, and they are stressful and they

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Speaker 1: doubt themselves, and that's okay. But I remember being into

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Speaker 1: this space where I was so I was so scared.

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Speaker 1: I've never been so scared in my entire life before

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Speaker 1: the eight hundred, and there was just nothing but doubt, nothing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to mess it up. And then I

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Speaker 1: finally had this aha moment where I was like, Shari,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with you for feeling this way. There's

544
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Speaker 1: probably a lot of people who are feeling the exact

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Speaker 1: same way as you are right now. But what you

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Speaker 1: have to do is you have to hold space for

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Speaker 1: your success. So even in the midst of I can't

548
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Speaker 1: do it, I'm gonna mess it up, you have to

549
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Speaker 1: say I can, I'm ready, I've trained, I can, I'm ready,

550
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Speaker 1: I've trained, I can, and doing that made this like

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Speaker 1: interesting thought process where when I had been doing all

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Speaker 1: of my training before, I had been doing them like

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Speaker 1: two hundred meters at a time, right with thirty seconds

554
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Speaker 1: recovery all of that, and I realized, huh, I'm running

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Speaker 1: eight hundred meters or running two laps and I can

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Speaker 1: do that. And just that one little flip of holding space,

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Speaker 1: it started changing my thought process and changing my reality.

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Speaker 4: So when it comes to it's okay if you.

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Speaker 1: Doubt yourself, if you feel scared, if you don't think

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Speaker 1: you can do it, even if you're in mid run,

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Speaker 1: you're at the sixteen mile mark and you're like, there's

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Speaker 1: no way, Pa, I'm not on pace.

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Speaker 4: There's no way I'm gonna be able to do it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna give up.

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Speaker 1: But what if you also held space for your success

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Speaker 1: and for that time that you're looking for and being like, yeah,

567
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Speaker 1: I'm a little behind, but I've got kind of a

568
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Speaker 1: long time and you never know if I'm going to

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Speaker 1: hit that second wind. So what if I continue pushing forward?

570
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Speaker 1: And what if you keep doing it? And so it's

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Speaker 1: very similar to what Josh was saying in that you

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Speaker 1: have to be aware of your thoughts but just being

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Speaker 1: able to hold space for your success can change everything.

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I went from having the

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Speaker 1: worst eight hundred times that I've been getting to getting

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Speaker 1: a nine year pebe in the eight hundred and qualifying

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Speaker 1: for the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready, I've trained, I can. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: lot of people's new mantra for tomorrow. Yeah, Josh, you

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Speaker 2: gave us a little insight into your thought process and

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Speaker 2: how you show up when you get on the line.

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Speaker 3: But anything else that you want to add, I think.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's such an emotional rollercoaster in Maras and

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Speaker 6: especially like you know, when we ran the half, our

585
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Speaker 6: motto was pockets of pain.

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Speaker 3: Gosh.

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Speaker 6: So the thing about a pocket of pain that you

588
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Speaker 6: will find out tomorrow is you can build yourself out

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Speaker 6: of a pocket. It's just small moments where it's like

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Speaker 6: like where it just feels impossible for that second, but

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Speaker 6: it's just it's just for that moment, and it's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, they talk about like breaking through like walls

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Speaker 6: and all these things, but we like to use pockets

594
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Speaker 6: because it just feels nice to be like I'm just

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Speaker 6: in a pocket right now, like just let me get through.

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Speaker 5: This pocket, I'll be fine.

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Speaker 6: And then it was one of those things where I

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Speaker 6: ran with two of my teammates for a half last

599
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Speaker 6: year in San Diego, and whenever someone was having a pocket,

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Speaker 6: we just chucked them, you know, on the shoulder, and

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Speaker 6: we just kept pushing through. And it's just those moments.

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Speaker 6: There's gonna be highs, there's gonna be lows. In the

603
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Speaker 6: best races you're gonna have, it's gonna be highs and lows.

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Speaker 6: And it's how you work through those lows and how

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Speaker 6: you keep mentally stable through those highs and not.

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Speaker 5: Go too early. But for us, that's that's how we

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Speaker 5: kind of work through them.

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Speaker 3: It's breaking it up into little doables as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's like, okay, if I can in running, if

610
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Speaker 2: we're talking about that, run to the next lamp post,

611
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Speaker 2: or if I can run this mile one, I can

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Speaker 2: run to the next aid station. Right you get there,

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Speaker 2: and then it's like, okay, well I persisted up to

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Speaker 2: this point, so I can keep persisting. Just reminding yourself

615
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Speaker 2: what it is exactly that you're capable of, which is

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Speaker 2: so special. Speaking of persisting, I loved the TikTok that

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Speaker 2: you posted at the end of August when you went

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Speaker 2: to go reconquer the height that failed you, or that

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Speaker 2: you quote unquote failed, although that's arguable at the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them a little bit about

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Speaker 2: that TikTok that you posted and why it was so

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Speaker 2: integral to you moving forward?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 1: So it's so interesting about the height that I missed.

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Speaker 1: I can clear from a two step, I can clear

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Speaker 1: it from a three step. It's a very easy bar

627
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Speaker 1: for me. But interestingly enough, I went to practice and

628
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Speaker 1: was just warming up and I all of a sudden

629
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Speaker 1: I couldn't clear it. And I was like, excuse me, ma'am.

630
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Speaker 1: You cleared this in high Like what how dare you right?

631
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Speaker 1: And so I thought it would be really interesting to

632
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Speaker 1: just document me overcoming it, because sometimes you do just

633
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Speaker 1: have to understand that you're in a mental block currently

634
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't.

635
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Speaker 4: Mean like it.

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Speaker 1: It didn't mean that all of a sudden I couldn't

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Speaker 1: high jump. I was in a pocket of pain mentally,

638
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Speaker 1: and and so yeah, and I just honestly it took

639
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Speaker 1: me like quite a lot. And there was actually one

640
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Speaker 1: time I didn't put this. We didn't have this on film,

641
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Speaker 1: but I did throw the high jump bart at my

642
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Speaker 1: videographer who was there, and he was like, well, first

643
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Speaker 1: of all, what the heck? And second of all, I

644
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Speaker 1: didn't get that, so that's too bad. And I was like,

645
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: that's okay, and and it was very like silly but

646
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Speaker 1: also like serious. But then finally, you know, like I

647
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Speaker 1: finally cleared it, and then I was like, you know what,

648
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Speaker 1: I have to do this the second time just to

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Speaker 1: get over it. And I cleared it for my second

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Speaker 1: time in a row, and it was just one of

651
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Speaker 1: those things where it was like, Okay, sometimes you just

652
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Speaker 1: have mental blocks, but that's all they are and they

653
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Speaker 1: don't mean anything. They don't mean that from now on,

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to high jump. Well again, doesn't mean

655
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Speaker 1: that I'm not a good high jumper. It just meant

656
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Speaker 1: like there was something going on. You adjusted, you move forward,

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Speaker 1: and you pushed through your own mental blocks. They don't

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Speaker 1: just happen physically. They have molementally, but they don't mean anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, if anything, when they happen, it's an opportunity

660
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: for you to learn about yourself so that you can

661
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: then implement that to your point moving forward. Just like

662
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: the difficult moments, right, the good moments are great. Don't

663
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: get me wrong. We love winning, we love when things

664
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: go right. But it's the moments that are tough. It's

665
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: the moments where you feel like you're down and out.

666
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: Those are the moments that you learn something.

667
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: So now, coming off of that experience, Shari, what would

668
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: you say has been your biggest takeaway moving forward as

669
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Speaker 2: you continue on up to the next chapter.

670
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: So my sports psychologist and I see two of them,

671
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: it's like it's like crazy, like you know how, like

672
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: they're just like, oh my gosh, like like olympian, like

673
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: they're just mentally well, we have help, like there, yeah,

674
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: there's so so much help. But my sports like always

675
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: talks about how resistance is the only place to grow.

676
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: It's the same thing like I said in the weight room,

677
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: like when you actually put resistance on the bar, that's

678
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: the only way that you can grow. And the only

679
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: way you're actually growing is by tearing your muscles just

680
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: a little bit so that they can grow bigger. And

681
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: the brain is literally a muscle, and so being able

682
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: every single day that you give yourself positive reinforcement or

683
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: when you're meeting that resistance and you're pushing against it,

684
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: you're literally training your brain to be a little bit stronger,

685
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: and it's the only place that we can get bigger.

686
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: And it's so cool because ever since my experience at

687
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: the Olympics. At first, you know, I just I couldn't

688
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: see why this was happening. I was just in such

689
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: a good spot. I was so grateful to be there.

690
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: It was my first time not really having anxiety when

691
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: I was competing. I was just I was so ready,

692
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: and I was so prepared, and I was so everything

693
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: was so well, and then happened. But then I started

694
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: meeting people and hearing their stories. I had a woman

695
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: come up to me and tell me about her story,

696
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: her her story of her fighting through cancer and cancer treatments,

697
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: and how she was actually ready to call it with

698
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: the cancer treatments because she just couldn't do it anymore

699
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: until she saw my video talking about how we can

700
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: do hard things even when we feel broken inside. And

701
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: she told me, like I fought and I keep fighting,

702
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: and like, I feel really unworthy to be able to

703
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: be somebody who is giving people who are fighting a

704
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: much harder battle than I am.

705
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: To me, she feels more like a hero.

706
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: But to be able to hear their stories and hear

707
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: that's whey, Like I think so hard about you know,

708
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: what my true why is and what my true hope

709
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: is for why even start social media or why I

710
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: wanted to build a community, and it was really just

711
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: to be able to like inspire people to if I

712
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: can do it, you can do it, and to be

713
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: able to have that like I have learned that sometimes

714
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: things are bigger than us, you know, and sometimes the

715
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: things that feel so random and feel so hard and

716
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: why did this happen was actually it wasn't for us,

717
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: it was for other people, and it was meant to happen.

718
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: And one thing that I have learned and I will

719
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: do my best to take it forward, is to understand

720
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: that everything in life happens for us or for others,

721
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: and it's bigger. Our life is bigger than us, you know,

722
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: And we have to show up as our best. And

723
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean to be the best, It just

724
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: we I don't know anybody, including myself, a personal best,

725
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: but I do owe it to myself to show up

726
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: as my personal best. And I think moving forward, that's

727
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: really something that I've learned.

728
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: That's really beautiful and things for sharing that story when

729
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: you talked about how do you get stronger? Right, it's

730
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: using that resistance. How do you get stronger? You give

731
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: your muscles something to push up against. How does your

732
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: will get stronger? You give your will something to push

733
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: up against. And so that's exactly what you dealt with.

734
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: But not the first time that you've had to deal

735
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: with difficulty. You dealt with some really difficult injuries leading

736
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: into the Olympics that you didn't get to go to

737
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: talk to us a little bit about your injury experience

738
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: and perhaps offer some advice to anyone who might be

739
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: going through it right now.

740
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So injuries are a nightmare.

741
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: I broke all of my I like tore every ligament

742
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: in my ankle five days before the World Championships in Budapest.

743
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm not in Budapest, sorry, in Doha in twenty nineteen.

744
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I decided to still go because it was my first

745
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: time ever making World Championships, and I was like, if

746
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't go, like I remember when I did it,

747
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look, and I was like, if

748
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: my bone isn't showing, I'm still going to go. And

749
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: I looked my bone wasn't showing, and I was like, Okay,

750
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: my ankle was about this big, but I was like,

751
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm still going, I'm still going, I'm still going. I

752
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: actually got in at twenty fourth in the world and

753
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: I ended up taking twelfth in the world. When I

754
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: was there on that broken ankle, and I didn't tell

755
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: anybody because I was like, I.

756
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: Didn't want anybody to tell me I couldn't go.

757
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: And so it was really cool for me because as

758
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: much as I wished I would have been healthy and

759
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: been able to maybe even do better, there was something

760
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: inside of me. It was the first time I felt

761
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: like I had that imposter syndrome right, like I barely

762
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: made it.

763
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: They take twenty four.

764
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: I made it at twenty fourth, So there was something

765
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: in me that was like I don't deserve to be

766
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm barely made it in

767
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: and so to be able to do that, I think

768
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: for me, I remember thinking like I think I needed

769
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: this to prove to myself that I can make it,

770
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: that I belong here. And then I opted out of

771
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: surgery because the next year was the Olympic year, and

772
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: when it got postponed, we decided to do the surgery.

773
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: But it was weird.

774
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: It took ten months for it to heal, and so

775
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I was actually training that whole ten months. I remember

776
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: my coach would be like, why are you limping? I'm like, oh,

777
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: because I just had certain remember that. Do you remember

778
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: when I know?

779
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 4: Okay?

780
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: And so it was a big thing where I had

781
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: to fight through it. But there was something still in

782
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: me that was like, I'm gonna I'm I'm ready, I'm

783
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna be an Olympian. I know I'm going to be

784
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: an Olympian. And I felt short and it really the

785
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: girls who came. They came to play. I would say

786
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: that I got beat. I wouldn't even say that I lost,

787
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: like they did incredible. I'm not even a one hundred

788
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: percent sure if I would have made the team healthy

789
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: because the girls that just to make it, you would

790
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: have taken a silver medal at the Olympics. They did amazing.

791
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: The girls showed up. It was amazing. But it was

792
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: also something that I thought in my head. I was like,

793
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: I could do this, and then I let myself down

794
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: in that space and I never thought I was going

795
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: to be able to make it. And I remember like

796
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: just putting one foot in front of the other being

797
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: so sad, but That's what happens when you even sad,

798
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: you put one foot in front of the other, you

799
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: get just even if it's this much closer, like you

800
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: can see, it builds up and eventually it is going

801
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: to get to the ceiling if you just keep putting

802
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: one foot in front of the other. And like, it's

803
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: crazy because I made my first team at thirty three

804
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: years old. I never thought I was even gonna be

805
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: able to compete when I was thirty three years old,

806
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: and so did it through injury. It's possible, Like I

807
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: just h like it's possible. Like I just want to

808
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: shake everybody and say, like, h it's possible. I promise

809
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: you can do it. You just have to keep putting

810
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: one foot in front of the other, Okay, ask Joshua

811
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: the questions.

812
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: I was like, no, we're talking here now, we're talking

813
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: about But that's a really beautiful sentiment, right, because there

814
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: are so many times that you're down and out and

815
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: you're asking yourself, am I ever going to get out

816
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: of this pocket? To your point, and you get out

817
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: of the pocket, and you're so proud of yourself for

818
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: remembering that forward is a pace, right, and no one

819
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: has to tell you how fast that pace has to

820
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: be except you you get to decide that and work

821
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: on what's right for you. I want to talk a

822
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: little bit about sacrifice, something that both of you know

823
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: a lot about, especially at the elite level that you're at.

824
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: I know, Josh that you and your fiance live.

825
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: In different places, which is a pretty big sacrifice. Talk

826
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: to me about the opportunity cost that goes hand in

827
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: hand with performing at this level.

828
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 6: I think you know, it's it's one of those things

829
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 6: where it's such a selfish job where you're like, well,

830
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 6: you know, I need to be at altitude for X

831
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 6: amount of months of the season. I need to go

832
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 6: compete in these different places I need like it was, yeah,

833
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 6: and I don't ever want to stop someone else's life

834
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 6: to be like, hey, come along, like this is really fun.

835
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 6: But you know, my fiance is a dermatologist and she's

836
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 6: amazing at what she does, and she did a year

837
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 6: of residency in Florida, but we're back living in the

838
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 6: same place.

839
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 5: Nice. That's nice.

840
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 6: It does make a huge difference, but yeah, it is.

841
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: It's a selfish job, and it's almost a job that

842
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 6: just takes a lot of your mental focus as well,

843
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: and you know it's but it's part of it. It's

844
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 6: like you kind of have to live in that in

845
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 6: that zone. And you know, if you're running good mileage

846
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 6: and you're trying to recover between sessions and you're taking

847
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 6: your naps every day and eating rubbish food, it's just

848
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 6: it's just slowly, surely and like we're not in a

849
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 6: rush like I was saying before. And you know, I think,

850
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 6: you know, what's nice to be honest, like sitting up

851
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 6: here listening to Sharry talk like, I think what's really

852
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 6: fun is I'm not great at being at the Olympics

853
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 6: and being like damn, like my nine year old ten

854
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 6: year old self would be so proud of me right now.

855
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 6: Sharry is like the funny like, I don't know how

856
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 6: much kit you got. Every time I see it's just

857
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 6: wearing a different us.

858
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: I know, I'm always like do you see my jacket?

859
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: He's like, stop talking to me.

860
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

861
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 6: In the UK, we are given like a pair of

862
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 6: socks and a vest and like go and compete. That's

863
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 6: but you know, I think, you know, that's such a

864
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 6: it's such a great trait to have, like and everyone

865
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 6: like this racing tomorrow regardless of the result, if it's

866
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 6: what you wanted it, it's not what you want to

867
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 6: like you would at one point in your life you

868
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 6: would have been proud.

869
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 5: To stand on that start line.

870
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 6: And I think we get so used to the success

871
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: or the moments that we're in where you know, I'm

872
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 6: standing on a podium at the Olympics for the second

873
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 6: time in my career and I'm like, damn, what the heck,

874
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 6: like point two seconds, like come on, like we need

875
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 6: to be better. And then I've got a team of

876
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 6: people around me like.

877
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: Dude, chill, Like this is team of people who's like.

878
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 6: I know, well, it's so it's it's one of those balances,

879
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: and I think that's something that I think I'm trying

880
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 6: to gain more like be better at like through you know,

881
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 6: listening to other people talk.

882
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 5: And I think it's such a skill.

883
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: How do you celebrate your wins mileage?

884
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 5: No, I'm king.

885
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: I go back in the pocket.

886
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 5: I go back in the pocket.

887
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 6: It's actually the one of the best and easiest ways

888
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 6: to like go if you if you've had success, and

889
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: you don't really because the question you'll get like if

890
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 6: if tomorrow go is the way you want it? To

891
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 6: go and they're like, oh my goodness, how does it

892
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 6: feel to be you know, a sub three math and

893
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 6: runner or to be a like someone who's finished the

894
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 6: marathon in your career like and you'll be like, I

895
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: don't know, it just feels normal. And then go back

896
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 6: to your training setup and go and run a long

897
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 6: run and you're like, damn, like I did this and

898
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: it was really hard and it got me to that

899
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 6: spot and that's how it sinks in for me.

900
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 5: Anyway.

901
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 6: So I went back and did some sessions after the

902
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: Olympics and I'd just looked to my coach and I

903
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, that's it feels pretty good. So I

904
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 6: think sometimes you have to go back to those hard

905
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 6: moments to feel like what that success is supposed to

906
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 6: feel like, because the euphoria just kind of wears off

907
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 6: pretty quickly.

908
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: So how do you celebrate your wins?

909
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 6: Mileage? I just said mileage? No, listen, I mean my

910
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 6: whole family lives in the UK, and the whole of

911
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 6: last year and before, like my films, they lived in

912
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 6: a different place. So just having like everyone after the Olympics,

913
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 6: like Brooks put on this really cool event and we

914
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 6: were all together and it was like that felt special

915
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 6: in its own way. Where my you know, I see

916
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 6: my parents, you know, four times a year, five times

917
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: a year hopefully, and obviously it takes about eighteen hours

918
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 6: to get there, and it's just such an effort and

919
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 6: having everyone in one place is like, this is really cool.

920
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 5: And it's not Christmas, so that's nice.

921
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: That's nice. Sorry, how do you celebrate your wins?

922
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I cry a lot, so for me, especially, like we

923
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: talked about, like sacrifice, and there's been a lot of

924
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: times where you know, we have to miss like Christmases,

925
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: and we have to miss Thanksgivings, and we have to

926
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: miss I have to miss a lot. I've had to

927
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: miss funerals because I have to. I can only train

928
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: each event once or twice a week, so if I

929
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: take a couple of days off, I missed entire weeks

930
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: worth of training in that event. The other thing is

931
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Speaker 1: my husband has We've been together for almost fifteen years

932
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: and he's been with me this entire time, and so

933
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: not only have I had.

934
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: To sacrifice, but he's had to sacrifice.

935
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Whether it has been the distance that we've done, or

936
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: when he moved with me to San Diego, away from sacrifice.

937
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: Well, listen, true to be fair, that isn't so nice.

938
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna clip that.

939
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: And San Diego, what a sacrifice dare But being away

940
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: from his community and his family and and uh and

941
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: my family, and the great thing is we've been able

942
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 1: to have each other, but being able to celebrate even

943
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: with him because he's like, honestly, he's a wonderful chef

944
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: who has helped me, Like you know, he's making me

945
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: breakfast before I go to practice so that I have

946
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: the right fuel, and he knows what I eat, and

947
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: he knows like all the things, and so to be

948
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: able to do things like we'll go on trips together

949
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: after like the games, and we'll go and celebrate and.

950
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: We do as much as we can.

951
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: Like what like Josh said, is like I am one

952
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: of those people who really think about eight year old Shari,

953
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: like learning how to high trump for the first time

954
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: and thinking like dang, like she's at the Olympics, Like truly,

955
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: she's at the Olympics.

956
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: And anytime I saw the Olympic rings, I.

957
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: Would literally like there was a grass and I remember

958
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: I laid on that grass that had the Olympic rings

959
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: for so long. I was just like a dog, just

960
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: like snuggling in the guts truly, like I was like

961
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: rubbing off the Olympic lines and just like really taking

962
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: in any moment.

963
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, we we really.

964
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: Do try to celebrate like the big the big moments

965
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: and take it in and whether it's a nice dinner,

966
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: whether it's a big celebration or a trip or whatever.

967
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: I'm hearing that you celebrate the small moments too, which

968
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: I think is just such an integral part to getting

969
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: to where you want to be, especially in the context

970
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: of us talking about training for a marathon as well, right,

971
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: like you don't just show up at the starting line

972
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: hopefully and run twenty six point two out of nowhere,

973
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: right like you take sixteen twenty weeks. Although downstairs he

974
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: was saying, like maybe tomorrow's my day.

975
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, why me? Why said why not?

976
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 5: Why not me? Ask yourself that question every day?

977
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: Well, there's certainly a marathon in your future. We know that.

978
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 5: I think so, Yeah, I think so.

979
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 3: I'm not breaking any news here today.

980
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's really cool about Like, I mean,

981
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: that's interesting about what Josh said though, is like as

982
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: like athletes too, like we expect a lot of ourselves

983
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: is I can get a personal best, but then look

984
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: at my score and be like, however, this, this and

985
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: this and this and this could have been better to

986
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: even be a better personal best. And it's like a

987
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: lot of times we don't just want a personal best,

988
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: It's we want like the ultimate best that we could

989
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: ever do in our entire lives.

990
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 4: We want our full thing right now.

991
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: And I think we all can relate to that in

992
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: like life is expecting every single day to have like

993
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: the most energy we've ever had in our entire lives

994
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: and having the most productive day and getting all of

995
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: the things all at once.

996
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 4: But like, uh, it's it's normal.

997
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Like I do that too when it comes to my performances,

998
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: and I think we all do that as well. And

999
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to also remember to

1000
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: like give ourselves space to celebrate.

1001
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: I'll celebrate for you from now on. I'll be your

1002
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 4: celebration guru.

1003
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: Every time he does anything, I'll be like, wait, what

1004
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: are we doing to celebrate?

1005
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, dear, what did I get myself into?

1006
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: I get myself into. Well.

1007
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: Clearly, the end of an Olympic cycle can bring about

1008
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: a lot of feelings.

1009
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: A lot of thoughts.

1010
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: We classically hear about the post Olympics blues. What are

1011
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: you two doing to stay excited about what's next and

1012
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: keep positive?

1013
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: Did you get the Olympic blues?

1014
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 5: Yes, I would say so.

1015
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: Was that? Oh?

1016
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: Tell me more?

1017
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 5: Okay, now we're back in therapy.

1018
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 6: No, I think you know anyone that feels that high

1019
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 6: genuinely feels that high. It's like it's difficult to because

1020
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 6: you have to on purpose get unfit and then you know,

1021
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 6: first day of practice, like, okay, we have eleven months

1022
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 6: go and do it again, and that just that's that's hard.

1023
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 6: It's like the first the first couple of months is difficult,

1024
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 6: and it's staying on that track that allows you to

1025
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 6: allows you to do that. But I feel like it

1026
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 6: does get harder every year. But I'm really not sure.

1027
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 6: I do think after the Olympics it is because it's

1028
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 6: so much easier to after World Championships to like get

1029
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 6: ready for the Olympics versus finishing Olympics get ready for

1030
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 6: World Championship because they're obviously off like so often. But

1031
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 6: you know, I think everyone, look, I have loads of

1032
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 6: really fun things to be excited about in the sport.

1033
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 6: You know, we have a new track league coming up

1034
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 6: that I'm excited about, and we have awesome new products

1035
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 6: coming out from a book's perspective, we got these new

1036
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 6: shoes that are helping.

1037
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 5: Them mileage eat.

1038
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 6: A new best friend, Yeah, yeah, I me and Sharry

1039
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 6: seems to be yeah together every week doing a talk.

1040
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: So that's pretty awesome.

1041
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's lots of fun things to do in

1042
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 6: the sport, and I think the sport's in a really

1043
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 6: good spot. And to be honest, like being able to

1044
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 6: I had to do a session really early one day

1045
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 6: in Seattle before going to LA before we were in

1046
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 6: La or in San Diego, and I was like, okay,

1047
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 6: like I have to finish this session by eight, so

1048
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 6: I'm going to start six thirty. And I was like

1049
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 6: really proud of myself because I normally started ten, and

1050
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 6: so I was like, damn, no one's going to be

1051
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 6: out here. And so I pulled up in the park

1052
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 6: and Poclat was full of people and I was like,

1053
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 6: I feel so lazy all the time. People are like

1054
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 6: finishing their session at six thirty, and I was like

1055
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 6: it's not even light yet. So being in a city

1056
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 6: like this, like hearing everyone's story in their journey, like

1057
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 6: there's inspiration across the sport and in this room, like like,

1058
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 6: I'm jealous. You guys get to run so far. I

1059
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: had to run on my own tomorrow.

1060
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: That sucks.

1061
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm just pumped to see you guys, And

1062
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 6: I think there's always inspiration around you.

1063
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: I think what's really important also after a big come up,

1064
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 2: a big moment like that, is to take a step

1065
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: back and realize that there is so much more to

1066
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: you than simply being an athlete, right. I know that's

1067
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: something that you've spoken out a lot about, Shari, is

1068
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: just this idea that when sport isn't at the forefront,

1069
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: there's still so much value to you as a human.

1070
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: I know, someone might come to your Instagram or your

1071
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: TikTok and they see this heptathlete, this beautiful heptathlete, so

1072
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: strong that red lip.

1073
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: I see you.

1074
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: But when you in the mirror, beyond being a heptathlete,

1075
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: what do you see looking back at you.

1076
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: It depends.

1077
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: It depends on the day, because like there are days

1078
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: where like I mean, I mean to get like a

1079
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: little bit vulnerable. I was actually crying to my husband

1080
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: the other day because I was telling him like, sometimes

1081
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because sometimes I really feel like I'm

1082
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: not doing enough to help.

1083
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: Other people and I feel like I could be doing more.

1084
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: And I like, I was just like really down, and

1085
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: I was like, I genuinely want to be doing more and.

1086
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: I just feel like I'm not doing enough. And uh,

1087
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 4: but then.

1088
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: Like like Josh said, like we get to hear other

1089
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: people's stories and potentially like I had, oh I'm gonna cry.

1090
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: I had a little boy come up to me the

1091
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: other day and he was so cute and he just

1092
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: jumped in my arms and he started giving me a

1093
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: hug and he was just like I decided to run

1094
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Speaker 1: this marathon because of you.

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Speaker 4: And I was like whoa.

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Speaker 1: Like and it my my, Like it was crazy because

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Speaker 1: I think I remember like thinking like I had just

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00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: talked to CJ and was just like I just don't

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00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing enough, and like literally almost like

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Speaker 1: him coming up to me and he was like.

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Speaker 4: Are you the Sharie Hawkins?

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00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: And I was like I think so, and he was

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00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: like and it was like depends on there's probably more

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00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: of us, I don't know, and and uh, he just

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00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: gave me a big hug and just said like I

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Speaker 1: only decided to run this because of you, and and

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Speaker 1: moment moments like that it makes it. I don't think

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00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: he cared that I didn't do my do a personal

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00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: best performance at the Olympics, right, And like the thing

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00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: about like Josh, like I've gotten to know him a

1111
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: little bit, and it's like I don't care if Josh

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Speaker 1: wins even one more medal because he's just such and

1113
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: I know you you still get to Okay, you get

1114
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Speaker 1: to break world records and you get to do those

1115
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: things like that's that also gets to happen. But it's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you even get one more personal best,

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00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: Like I think you're so fabulous and you have so

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00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: much to offer in general and more. And it's hard

1119
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: for us to separate ourselves from what we do because

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00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: it seems like what we do is what people look

1121
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: at us for. But like then we hear moments like

1122
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: when people say, like you inspire me to follow my

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00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: dreams a little bit harder and work a little harder,

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Speaker 1: and like you actually do inspire me when I'm going

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Speaker 1: on like run, so I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, well, like Josh is trying to break a world record.

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00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: So all the best I can do.

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Speaker 1: Is try a little harder, right, And it's like just

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00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: being able to like and we all do it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: We have people in our lives, we have like our

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00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: children and our nieces and our nephews and that next

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: generation that we're surrounding ourselves with all the time that

1134
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: are looking at us and watching us, and they're doing

1135
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: things because of us. And to be able to like

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00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: even that one person, you know, when I'm feeling like

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00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm not doing enough, and it's like the one the

1138
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: people in our lives like, really being able to show

1139
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: up as our best selves. Like my best self doesn't

1140
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be a heptathlete. My best self is

1141
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: just how I'm showing up every single day, even through

1142
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: the hard times.

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00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm hearing you say is when you look

1144
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: in the mirror, you see resilience, someone that's evolving. You

1145
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: see someone that might be different than the person yesterday

1146
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: but has so much more potential to grow.

1147
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1148
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that I get reminded to like U.

1149
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 1: And I always have to stay strong in the moments

1150
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: where I do feel like I'm not doing enough, because

1151
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: there are times I look in the mirror and think

1152
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm doing enough. But then in that

1153
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: same space, like I said before, being able to hold

1154
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: space for the fact that you are actually doing enough

1155
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get reminded. There's gonna be something that

1156
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: happens later. Where have you guys ever been like, oh

1157
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: I figured it out life Like I I got it

1158
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: and I'm good and I did it, and then like

1159
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: a week later you're like, oh.

1160
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 4: I lost it. But it's like it's just because life is.

1161
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: This, and training is this, and competition is this, and

1162
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: track is this, and life is this, and it's like

1163
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: being able when we are in that low to understand

1164
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: that we're in the low and it's okay.

1165
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 4: We're in a pocket of pain. I love that Josh.

1166
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: Our marathon group chest called pocket pain.

1167
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: I like it, like I want to. Actually I'm not

1168
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: sure at.

1169
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: The end of the day though, Like perfection isn't relatable,

1170
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: vulnerability is irrelatable, is relatable, And I think that that

1171
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: is why you have found so much success, if we're

1172
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: talking numbers wise, in the community that you've built on

1173
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: social media, is because people see you being your authentic

1174
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: self and that is inspiring. It's cool to see someone

1175
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: just thriving. Sure, but I would argue that it is

1176
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: so much better to see someone and say I can

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00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: see myself in that.

1178
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: Well, And I'm honored because I people are so willing

1179
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: to share back, and I think that that's so special

1180
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: because that's how it really bonds me to people, Like

1181
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: I get like really attached to a lot of people

1182
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: in my community because we're able to share with each

1183
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: other about like our hard times and our hardships, and like, honestly,

1184
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people's messages they've made me want to

1185
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 1: show up to practice a little bit better, a little

1186
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: bit stronger, and be like, Okay, I can do this.

1187
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: And so it really is like something that like happens

1188
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: on both ends too, truly, Like I don't take it lightly,

1189
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like really honored truly, Like it's great.

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: Well, I am honored that I've been able to have

1191
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: such an unbelievable conversation with you both.

1192
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: I have one final question.

1193
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: I know that you have expressed that you have a

1194
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: team of sports psychs and therapists at your disposal at

1195
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: any moment, But I know also that you have a

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00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: squad of coaches in your corner right now. I want

1197
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: each of you to put on your own coaching hat.

1198
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: I won't tell anyone if you steal this from someone else.

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Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to offer the people in this

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00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: room towing the starting line tomorrow, either a pep talk,

1201
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: a piece of wisdom, something that they can show up

1202
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: and go out and chase their own big potential.

1203
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: What do you tell them?

1204
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to start, Oh, I'm going to start with

1205
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: Josh finally, Pocket.

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00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 6: Of Pain Pressures. I think you know I've tried. I've

1207
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 6: tried to share a little bit of my experience so far,

1208
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 6: but again it's everyone has their own experience tomorrow, go

1209
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 6: their own personal journey that they're on. And I think

1210
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 6: what the cool part is is you're on that specific

1211
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 6: journey yourself, but you're surrounded by other people that are

1212
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 6: in their own journey themselves, and you know, being able

1213
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 6: to rub shoulders with people like that, but knowing that

1214
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 6: you're on your own, your own path and you get

1215
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 6: snacks every couple of miles. I am so jealous. And

1216
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 6: it's just it's one of those things where if it

1217
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 6: takes you two hours or it takes you six, like

1218
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 6: you're you're gonna be someone that's finished the marathon tomorrow,

1219
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 6: and I think that's incredibly, incredibly inspiring, and you're going

1220
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 6: to be part of a group of people, like a

1221
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 6: very small group of people that can say they've done that,

1222
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 6: and so you should be incredibly proud of yourself.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, honestly, that was probably better than

1224
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: like what I would say, my my biggest thing, because

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00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: I love that.

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00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: I love that whole process of.

1227
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Like you you already have so much to be proud of,

1228
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: all the work that you've already done, Like the journey

1229
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: is actually the biggest part of it, and like the

1230
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: training that you've done and now all all you get

1231
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: to do now. I was like, go have fun. And

1232
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: if you get into a space where you have a plan,

1233
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: trust that plan. And when you're in the pocket, I

1234
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: love that when you're in the pocket of pain, just

1235
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: like okay, cool, Like it's one of the it's one

1236
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: of these and I'm I know that this is coming

1237
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: because I think that when you're in the middle of it,

1238
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be really really easy to be like, oh,

1239
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: this is this is the rest of my race.

1240
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: Now, great, I have I have twenty more miles.

1241
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: That's gonna be if I do a marathon, it's gonna

1242
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: be like I have like twenty more miles of this,

1243
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Like I know it, but it's like understand that, like

1244
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: probably the marathon is even I mean, I've run an

1245
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: eight hundred, so I really understand the pockets of pain

1246
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: that you guys are going to go. But like, honestly,

1247
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: like I'm so proud of you. You guys get to

1248
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: be so proud of you and like just like keep

1249
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: putting one foot in front of the other, and eventually

1250
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 1: you are going to cross that finish line.

1251
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 4: Even even when you're in that pocket, just keep pushing.

1252
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 4: I love it.

1253
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: Trust in the training.

1254
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: I love that we have an explicit podcast episode titled

1255
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: a Pocket of Pain.

1256
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: I like, that's it. That's it for those that aren't

1257
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: following along with.

1258
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: You just yet, so they can keep up with you

1259
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: on social media and follow along with your journey.

1260
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: Can you just give us your details?

1261
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 6: This shower is a better follow than me right now,

1262
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 6: I'm being she gives you the great advice. Yeah, I

1263
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 6: think mostly on Instagram, I'm trying to kind of share

1264
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 6: that process, and I think we're going to be sharing

1265
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 6: more on YouTube as well coming into the new year.

1266
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 6: And just the process of behind the scenes of being

1267
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 6: you know, a solid miler.

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: And the at for that.

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00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this will be released as a podcast, So

1270
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 2: I want the people to find you well.

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00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 6: To be fair, Josh Kerre was taking So I put

1272
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 6: Josh with two ages care but my middle lane doesn't start.

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00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: That's why that's fair.

1274
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 6: I'm famous surfer called Josh Kerrass. So if you guys

1275
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 6: follow him, unfollow him. He's got was followers and.

1276
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: He actually really that's what happened is they were trying to.

1277
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 6: Follow you, and that's what happened to San Diego. We

1278
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 6: were there for Brooks event and they were like, oh

1279
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 6: my god, Josh Kerreen. I was like, yeah, what's up?

1280
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 6: And he was like, so like, how long you been

1281
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 6: surfing outside?

1282
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: This is a tough moment for me.

1283
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: It's fine, Sorry, how do they follow along with you?

1284
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: So mine is at underscore Sharie Hawkins and Chari spelled

1285
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: C H A R. I. I'm on Instagram and I'm

1286
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: on TikTok and I'm on YouTube and yeah there's a

1287
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I love chatting as shocker. But so a

1288
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of things that I like to do is like, again,

1289
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: if I can do it.

1290
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: You can do it. So I like to teach about drills.

1291
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: I like to teach about warming up and cooling down

1292
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: and focus on technical aspects and just try to give

1293
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of insight into my into my training,

1294
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: and now into Josh's training, because I'm gonna start being like,

1295
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: all right.

1296
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: So I talked to Josh today and he said.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm over at Emily a Body and at

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00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle conquered. Gotch you guys next time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.