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Speaker 1: and welcome to the Colts Official Podcast, presented by our

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Matt Taylor, Boys of the Colts.

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Speaker 1: JJ stank Events is here from Colts dot Com and

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Speaker 1: Latte Lara Overton is here, has got her Latte going

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Speaker 1: here and we are gonna put this twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: The upcoming draft will get in all that. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard said. We've been waiting on this one. He

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Speaker 1: spoke earlier today at his end of the season press conference,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday. But guys, he came up there, Lara, let

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Speaker 1: One of Chris's comments that I found really interesting was

431
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Speaker 1: our competitive confidence we lost when it got hard in

432
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: the game, those of the times we'd melt down. And

433
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: I would love to hear how Jeff would address that,

434
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Speaker 1: because I think that speaks to exactly what you said

435
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: over twelve months or so, how that did spiral and

436
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: how that did really unravel following the Christmas Night win

437
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: at Arizona. So you wonder how those are things that

438
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Speaker 1: he would address and how he would go about addressing those,

439
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: Because Chris Ballard said, I'm excited to see what his

440
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: vision is because he has had an opportunity to have

441
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: an examination. Although he knows this building in the organization,

442
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: the coaches and the player are so very well, this

443
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: is an in depth analysis of it and how he

444
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: is going to use that to implement moving forward and

445
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: address some of those situations, address some of the needs

446
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: that they're are in working with the front office throughout

447
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: the draft process and throughout the free agency. But another

448
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: comment from Chris that I think you take into account

449
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: when you are looking at Jeff's eight game stretch. Chris

450
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: addressed when he was asked about Matt Ryan. He addressed

451
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 1: the struggles at the offensive line to get continuity, and

452
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: he probably underestimated that early on, and he said they

453
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Speaker 1: never recovered from that. However, one thing I would say

454
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Speaker 1: is it did seem like in the latter part of

455
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Speaker 1: the season, whether it is just by the fact you

456
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: had more time with those guys together, or it is

457
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Speaker 1: the influence of Jeff for a little bit of both.

458
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Speaker 1: You did see some improved play by the offensive line

459
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Speaker 1: toward the latter part of the season, So that's one

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Speaker 1: thing I think is worth some greater evaluation. Button. But

461
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Speaker 1: just real quick on that too. Chris Ballard did talk

462
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Speaker 1: about the incident in New York with Nick Foles and

463
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibadeau, and he, without openly criticizing the guys on

464
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: the field, he did say that while yes, our offensive

465
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Speaker 1: line played in the second half of the season, he

466
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: also said some good things about Bernard Ryman and the

467
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: way that he played in the second half of the season,

468
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: that it still was not up to their standard. And

469
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: the guys in that room, you know, like Quentin Nelson

470
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: after the game on Sunday, he took a lot accountability

471
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Speaker 1: for his play and he said he knows exactly what

472
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Speaker 1: he has to do this offseason to move forward. You know.

473
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Speaker 1: The the guys in that room, I think you know

474
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Speaker 1: would probably agree with that that this season was not

475
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Speaker 1: up to their standard. All right, here's Jeff Saturday on

476
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Speaker 1: how tough it was to earn this team's trust coming

477
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the season like he did. I

478
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: don't think you can make a tea, you know, I

479
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: don't think you can make a team in eight weeks.

480
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Speaker 1: So no. I mean, as far as I felt like

481
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Speaker 1: from a leadership perspective, I had to earn their trust.

482
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Speaker 1: I think I said that very early. I think I

483
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Speaker 1: did that. I think I did a good job of

484
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Speaker 1: earning their trust. I thought from a from a perspective

485
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Speaker 1: of where the areas that we felt like we could

486
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Speaker 1: get better in. Hey, let's attack this. I know, to

487
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Speaker 1: a man, I've met with a lot of players this morning.

488
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Speaker 1: You know, the competition at practice, the way those guys

489
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Speaker 1: have played, and again, you know, that's the area. And

490
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: I know it sounds so cliche and everybody wants to

491
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: write and make fun of it, but the way you

492
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: practice ultimately is going to be the way that you play.

493
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately we haven't gotten from one side to the other.

494
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Speaker 1: But that's how it works in the NFL. Right, I've

495
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: seen it work that way, and I know everybody else

496
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: that sees it that's the way it works. So when

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00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: guys come in and say, man, that the competition that

498
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: we bread the energy we've reread the relationships that we

499
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Speaker 1: that we put together and fostered in this short time

500
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Speaker 1: that coach. I appreciate it, I've benefited from it. That's

501
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: the part where I felt like I could make the most,

502
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, the most headway. And that's where I felt

503
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: like I did. Almost his entire career playing in the NFL,

504
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday at Howard Mudd as his position coach who

505
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: is never afraid to chew ass. And that's what I'm

506
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: thinking that Saturday's doing because we've all seen it. We've

507
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: all been out at practice where he stopping plays right

508
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: in the middle of them his first time, first first practice,

509
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Speaker 1: first practice, stopping stuff in the middle of it, saying, hey,

510
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Speaker 1: run in again, do it right, get up off of

511
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Speaker 1: the ground, start hustling, let's be professionals, etcetera, etcetera. The

512
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: same guys start changing stuff around here. Did the players

513
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: want to play for him? I mean, how long do

514
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Speaker 1: you think that it took when they said, Hey, we

515
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: got a guy who's not in our building, who we've

516
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: been watching on ESPN and is now the head coach.

517
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: I know at the end of the year. We heard

518
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: it in locker room yesterday a lot of guys love

519
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday, and a lot of guys said, yeah, we

520
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: hope he's tell here. But if you're a player at

521
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Speaker 1: that time, did they really want to say, hey, are

522
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Speaker 1: we gonna play in? Some of them not even knowing

523
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: his history in the end, right. I mean, I think

524
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Speaker 1: if you listen to the guys yesterday, a lot of

525
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Speaker 1: them would be on board for that. I mean, Ryan

526
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Speaker 1: Kelly said he would love to have Jeff back to

527
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: Forrest Buckner said the same thing, acknowledged all the leadership

528
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Speaker 1: qualities that Jeff has, you know, the traits to be

529
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: a head coach. You know, you look at Shaquille Leonard

530
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: on the defensive set the side of the ball, really

531
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of coming in and holding guys to a different

532
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: standard of excellence and demanding that you get it right right,

533
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: that old adage of perfect practice makes perfect play. Yeah.

534
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: I think if if Jeff Saturday is hired, he would

535
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: have to come in, like I said, and sort of

536
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Speaker 1: be that CEO, overseer of the roster, over year of

537
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: the team, and would definitely have to bring in top

538
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: notch coordinators and a top notch staff around him to

539
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: sell that idea to come back, you know, to Chris

540
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: Ballard and Jim Mersey, I do think you need both.

541
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Speaker 1: I think you need a guy that can galvanize the

542
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: locker room. And then coaching really matters in this league.

543
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: You know, we saw that. I mean there's always a

544
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Speaker 1: team that goes from worst to first in the NFL,

545
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: and it's primarily done with coaching. The Jaguars. You look

546
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: at the Giants this year, They've got top notch coaching staffs.

547
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: I think that's what the cults are looking for here

548
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: in this turnover between twenty two and twenty three. And

549
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: if they can marry the leadership of Jeff and the

550
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: tacticians of other great coaches and put it together scheme wise,

551
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: and I think you really have something. Well, if you

552
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: go and you listen to what Chris Ballard said, and

553
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: I know we'll get into it, but just about the

554
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: coaching search and what he's looking for. Something he was asked,

555
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: which I thought was a really good question, a really

556
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: good way to frame it was, you guys have the

557
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: fourth overall pick. You're in range where you could go

558
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: get a young quarterback. Do you need to hire an

559
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach to develop that quarterback? And what

560
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: he said was, it does It doesn't matter what side

561
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: of the ball you're on. You have to be able

562
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: to win with average to above average quarterback play in

563
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: the NFL because there were only a handful of elite guys.

564
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: You know, not every team has Patrick Mahomes coming down

565
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: the pike. Peyton Manning is not walking through that door.

566
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, you hope he is, but he probably not

567
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: walking through that door. So can you win? Can you

568
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: develop a plan to win even if you don't have

569
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Speaker 1: that elite of elite level of quarterback play? And you

570
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: know he mentioned there are some teams around the league

571
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 1: that have been doing that. I think you look at

572
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: the New York Giants this year and what they've done, brought,

573
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: what Brian Dable has done with that roster. Yes he's

574
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: an offensive might have head coach. No, he's not been

575
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: calling the place. You look around, you know some other

576
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: teams that are not getting this like top level of

577
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: quarterback play. But the San Francisco forty nine ers, the

578
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: number two seed with mister Irrelevant is their quarterback. I

579
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: mean there are teams that can do this, And yes,

580
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: you want to find the elite quarterback. You want to

581
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: find your Mahomes or your row or you're allan. There's

582
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: still a debate of Dak Prescott is an elite, Right,

583
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: that's a conversation that you see what two three times

584
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: a week funny as the end? More than that, it's

585
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: two three times a day. Yeah, I mean absolutely. I'm

586
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: like you, you have to be able to develop a

587
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: whole plan of winning for as an entire team. And

588
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: that's something that Chris said he's going to be looking

589
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: for in this coaching search is what's your plan to win?

590
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: And obviously you know who are your coordinator is going

591
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: to be all that. But this is going to be

592
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: a long process. It's not going to be a all right,

593
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: we got our guy in you know, two weeks and

594
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: it should be and it should be. It absolutely should be.

595
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: And it's something that Chris said, if we need to

596
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: wait until mid February to go through the whole process,

597
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: we will do that as long as we get the

598
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: right guy. All right. Here's Jeff Saturday on how far

599
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: he thinks the Colts are to rebounding next season. Yeah,

600
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: not nearly as far as y'all think. I've seen some

601
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: articles here recently, so I can assure you a lot

602
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: of shots fired, and I don't think we're nearly as

603
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: far off as you guys believe we are. I think

604
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: the line in football between winning and losing is very narrow,

605
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and there's things that we have not done, um that

606
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: I believe habits that are created in March and April

607
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: and OTAs and preseason and you know early in the

608
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: season they pay dividends in November and December, right, Unfortunately

609
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have that opportunity for those things. But those

610
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: moments matter. And so when you talk about how do

611
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: you change and I think it was Zach or somebody

612
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: asked me last night, Hey, what can you pinpoint right,

613
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: is there's been different situations when you've had the opportunity

614
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: to close games and different phases haven't And for whatever reason,

615
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: it's the habits that are built. Then what does a

616
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: close out look like when you're when you're on the

617
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: field and you're practicing and you're driving home the details

618
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: of what that looks like. How do you get that accomplished?

619
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: And I think I think that that can be taught,

620
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: coached and we can be better at it again, but

621
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Speaker 1: I think the in totality is really where h you know,

622
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: the most is made, Lara, you wish Saturday we far away.

623
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: I think that he knows better than anyone else at

624
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: this point, you know, like he said, like we're closer

625
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: than what you guys think we are, because of course

626
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: everyone else is from the outside looking in, and they

627
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: don't have that introspective vantage point of being able to

628
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: truly see not only where your strengths and your weaknesses

629
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: are and you know, either the glaring voids or those

630
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: very obvious strengths that you can build around. He also

631
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: was going to have the plan for how you attack

632
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: those things. And if he says you're not that far away, okay,

633
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: that means he would have a plan or he has

634
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: a vision in working with Chris Ballard and that staff

635
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: to address the area. Is in addition to implementing certain

636
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: things within practice and within those different training periods OTA's minicamp,

637
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: all of that, he has a vision for how you

638
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: address those things. I do think you look at and

639
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: this is something that Chris talked about on Tuesday. There

640
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: are great players that you have on this roster. However,

641
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: the best players have to play better, have to play

642
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: to their potentials. So I think that that's one reason

643
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: that Jeff has optimism because there are there are, there

644
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 1: is top tier talent on this roster. But has the

645
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: top tier talent produced to a top tier level? Probably not? Yeah,

646
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: they didn't this year. Yes, And you're also thinking about

647
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: a guy who played seventy four snaps on defense who's

648
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: a three time All Pro, right, Shaquille Leonard. Getting him

649
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: back would be quite a boost for this team. Just

650
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: overall too absolutely right, Jeff Saturday. But he's re carving

651
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: up his comments like a turkey dinner. Let's switch it over.

652
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard met with the media this morning at about

653
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: forty for about forty minutes at his end of season

654
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: press conference. Chris opened up the press conference by describing

655
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: why he thought he let the Colts organization down this

656
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: season and why the Colts critics have an argument heading

657
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: into the offseason. Here's Ballard on more games in the

658
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: NFL that are lost than one, and the Colts lost

659
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: a ton of games this year. The one thing you'll

660
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: it's a fickle game. But and I know people say

661
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: it all time, but like more games are lost than one,

662
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: we lost them, Like you cannot be minus thirteen in

663
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: the turnover ratio and win you can't do it. You

664
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: can't be thirty second in the league in the red

665
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: zone and win. And I think on defense we either

666
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: finished thirty or thirty first in the red zone. Like

667
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: those are key areas of the game that you have

668
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: to perform to be able to win. There's a way

669
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: to win every game. I've said this every year with

670
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: whoever you have. I mean, the talent level in this

671
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: league between teams. Sure, there's gonna be a few that

672
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: have little, but it's it's not I mean, it's not

673
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: here and here. It's usually here and here. And I

674
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: think you even look at the playoffs of teams that

675
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: rebounded from a year ago that everybody said stock and

676
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: now they're in the playoffs. But those teams that got in,

677
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't lose the game. I didn't lose

678
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: the game, and we lost the game. You can't turn

679
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: the ball over. You have to execute in the red

680
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: zone when you get those opportunity, and we didn't. You know,

681
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I found myself, Jeffrey, I found myself nodding along with

682
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: Chris with what he had to say consistently today. But

683
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: this was spot on. This was so spot on because

684
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: this season the definition of this season was self infliction.

685
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: It was your own mistakes. It was losing close games,

686
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: it was not making enough plays, not being good enough

687
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's how you define this season.

688
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: And Chris is so spot on me. If you leave

689
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: the NFL and turnovers, if you leave the NFL and picks,

690
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: you leave the NFL and points aloud off of turnovers

691
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: when your second to last and sacks allowed, you're not

692
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna win games. You know, You'll only won four. And

693
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: the other part of that, mate, is yeah, the I

694
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: mean the Colts situationally, were you know, in that that

695
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: competitive confidence that Chris is talking about. You know, they

696
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: went with Colts about four six and one in one

697
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: score games. But that means they went oh in six

698
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: in games that were decided by more than one score,

699
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: and you would tell me they lost four games by

700
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: at least twenty three And that that to me is

701
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: where the turnovers at, the lack of execution in the

702
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: red zone, the situational stuff, and then the lack of

703
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, just the sloppiness with the ball that then

704
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: showed up in losing twenty four to nothing to the Jaguars,

705
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: thirty eight to ten to the Giants, twenty to three

706
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: to the Chargers. I mean, that's where it showed up

707
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: almost more than in some of those close one score games,

708
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, the loss to the Eagles or the Steeler.

709
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, you can't if you get blown out as

710
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: much as the Colts got blown out this year, then yeah,

711
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean you do have to say all the things

712
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: that Chris said, which was we were not good enough

713
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: this year. It wasn't like you can say we are

714
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: three or four plays away from being you know, nine

715
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: seven and one and being in the playoffs. You can't

716
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: say that. So you you have to look at those

717
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: games again and just and think that there is a

718
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: ways to go. But the other thing that Chris Ballard

719
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: said is that this team is not talent deficient, which

720
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to what we were just talking

721
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: about off of what Jeff Saturday said, right, this is

722
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: not the cupboard does not bear. In twenty seventeen when

723
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard took over, this team did have a talent deficiency,

724
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: and this team right now does not have a talent deficiency.

725
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: But they have to execute better and they have to

726
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: play to the level that we have seen them play

727
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: at over the last couple of years. That's exactly right.

728
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a bad football team. This defense,

729
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: the defense that the Colts had this year is not

730
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: indicative of four twelve and one. But you are what

731
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: your record says you are. And yeah, situational football on

732
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: both sides of the football, the Colts did not do

733
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: a good job. I mean, when you're, like Chris said,

734
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: when you're close to dead last on offense in the

735
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: red zone, you're close to last in defense in the

736
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: red zone. And then fourth quarter too, mean fourth quarter,

737
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: the second quarter. In the fourth quarter, you work all

738
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: week to game plans, so the first quarter you're sort

739
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: of feeling your way out. Second quarter, most of those

740
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: game plan tweaks have played themselves out. Then you're just

741
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: playing football. Same thing in a halftime, right, you go

742
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: on a halftime, you make second half adjustments. By the

743
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you're just playing football, and the best team

744
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: is going to make more plays. And the Colts didn't

745
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: do that. They were outscored by sixty three points for

746
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: this season in the fourth quarter, dead last. Right. You

747
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: lost five games this year at home, three of them

748
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: by one point, so they're close, but they're just not

749
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: making enough play. So He's exactly right. The Colts lost,

750
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: I thought, way more than their opponents won against them.

751
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: But that's what this NFL. That's that's what this league

752
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: is also, to be fair, these fourth quarter struggles didn't

753
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: just start in twenty two. This is something that goes

754
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: back prior to even this year, prior to you know,

755
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday taking over. That has been a glaring issue

756
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: for this team for a while and something that I

757
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: am sure when they do have this post mortem that

758
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard reference, that will be something that will be heavily,

759
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: heavily examined. The other thing just to to you know,

760
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: as you're looking at how this roster was constructed, and

761
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: something that Ballard talked about was that you know, yes,

762
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: he's all is going to build through the lines. That

763
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: is always going to be his philosophy. So he can

764
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: put that on my gravestone. But there are I think

765
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: it was interesting to hear him say he may reevaluate

766
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: how he evaluates the talent around the lines, right, And

767
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: I think you look around the league this year and

768
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: you look at some of the lessons that maybe we've

769
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: learned league wide, and you know, the one of them

770
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: that comes to mind is you look at the teams

771
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: that have that top level, you know, top five wide

772
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL. The Philadelphia Gles aj Brown, they

773
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: traded a first round pick for him. They are the

774
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: number one seat. The Minnesota Vikings had a very weird season,

775
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: but they could always count on Justin Jefferson to go

776
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: out and make some plays late in the year. Yeah,

777
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, and like come up with like unbelievable plays

778
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: in unbelievable moments. Then Mimi. Yeah, the Miami Dolphins spent

779
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: a lot of resources on wide receiver with Tyree Hill

780
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: and Jail and Waddle and they're in the playoffs and

781
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, you know, their their situation is a little

782
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: bit different, but it does pay to have that top, top,

783
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: top level wide receiver. Michael Pittman junior, you know, is

784
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: a very good player who Chris Ballard really likes, talked

785
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: about him today. You know, the debate if he's a

786
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: number one or not is you know, sort of whatever.

787
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: But um, you know, having that that like go to

788
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: guy late in the season, this is a lesson around

789
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: the league. I think we've seen this. Look at what

790
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is able to do when you give Trevor Lawrence Weapons. Yeah,

791
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: and better coach. Everyone was laughing at that Christian Kirk contract,

792
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: and he goes out he's probably the best wide receiver

793
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: in the division this year. Right, Yeah, No, I don't

794
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: know where Jeffrey went, but I think should take time

795
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: out now. I think we have to plug on. I

796
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: think we have to plug on. I mean, Jeffery got summoned.

797
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: But that I was going to transition into another SoundBite

798
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: from from Chris Ballard JJ, but I think you transition

799
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: into it nicely when you talk about Chris today talked

800
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: about his vision, his roster construction vision and whether or

801
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: not if that still holds up in the NFL. And

802
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, Chris has taken a lot of heat for

803
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: this publicly, and he's we all know, he's been very

804
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: prudent in free agency, right. He sticks to his value

805
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: on players in terms of the financials on the open marketing.

806
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: He's built a team, you know, primarily through the draft,

807
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: and he's rewarded his own players with second contracts and

808
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: things like that. But as you said, he's always going

809
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: to stick to his guns and his principles and his

810
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: core belief that you gotta win up front. You have

811
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: to win the trenches on both sides of the football.

812
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: That's why he's drafted there, that's why he's developed there,

813
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: and that's why he spent a lot of money on

814
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: contracts to retain good football players along that offensive line.

815
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: You know, he was honest today and saying that the

816
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: offensive line did not produce like he thought it would

817
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: this year because there were some transition problems at the

818
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: left tackle position and at right guard. You know, it

819
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: wasn't as seamless as he thought it was gonna be

820
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: going from Eric Fisher to Matt pry and then at

821
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: the right guard position Mark Glewinski to Danny Pinter. That's

822
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: why they had to move Ryman and Will Fries to

823
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: tackle and guard respectively. And it's not a bad thought.

824
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you had three out of your five pieces

825
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: along the offensive line not that long ago that led

826
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: the NFL and a few with sacks allowed in twenty

827
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: eighteen with only eighteen, So it's not like he's he's

828
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: projecting something that's too far fetch I. I just think

829
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: it goes to show that a good plan on paper

830
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: doesn't always work out like you wanted to. And every

831
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: GM would like to build their team with great offensive

832
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: lines and great defensive lines. I mean, every GM's gonna

833
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: say that. I just think what happened here this year

834
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: is that the Colts unfortunately did not have their top

835
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: players play at a high level. I mean, name one

836
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: player on offense this year that had a better year

837
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: this year than they did last year outside of him,

838
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Sarah. Were that one Tim like you're

839
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: superstar players, like you're you're number one player on offense

840
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver wise, Pittman didn't produce like he did last

841
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: year because you had all of this carousel at quarterback

842
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: then didn't allow you without quarless with regardless of the reasons,

843
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: That's what happened. And I think Chris is sort of

844
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: having to reset some things in terms of how he

845
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: evolves and how he continues to adapt in this role

846
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: heading into year number seven. Can I just say, though,

847
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: one thing, one kind of surprise or standout or bright

848
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: spot unexpectedly so just because you didn't know what you

849
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: were getting necessarily. Zach moss Head's been so impressive in

850
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: the latter part. I'm really excited for him to think

851
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: that he is going to be someone who can be

852
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: a solid contributor within this offense moving forward. I just

853
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: we didn't really know much about him when he came in,

854
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: and he had to endure a lot right when he

855
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: walked in the door, so many changes within the offense,

856
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: and then when you saw his just steady progression over

857
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: the final quarter of the season, I'm so encouraged by

858
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: him and what he brings. And he is just one

859
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: of the more physical runners that I have watched. So

860
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: you think about maybe the tandem of a Zach Moss

861
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor duo in the running game that that, to

862
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: me is something that funder and lightning, thunder and lightning. Hey,

863
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: while we're while, you know, we're sort of like the

864
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: teachers out of the room. Jeffrey's not here to guide us.

865
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: He's like Zach Morrison, save by the belly, just like

866
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: called to time out and thought that everything was going

867
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: to freeze around him. I'm guessing I'm guessing that people

868
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: who listened to this podcast have got about fifty minutes

869
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: in and been like, why you guys should talk about

870
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. So just a couple of things to

871
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: for our listeners to know here. Yesterday in the locker room,

872
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan talked, he said he is has not considered retiring.

873
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: He's under contract. He's operating like you know, he's under contract,

874
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: and that's going to lead to him moving forward this

875
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: offseason in a way that he has approached every offseason

876
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: of his career. Um, you know, we'll kind of see

877
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: where that goes. Chris Ballard today said, in regards to

878
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: the future of that position, right now, the focus is

879
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: on finding the next head coach. But he was asked directly,

880
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: you got the number four overall pick, would you be

881
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: surprised if it was a quarterback? And he said no,

882
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: And you know then he said, f we earned it.

883
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: We earned that pick. But he was also asked, and

884
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: this was I think very interesting. He was asked, if

885
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: you identify the guy you have conviction on one guy

886
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: in this draft class, do you trade up and go

887
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: get him? And Chris Ballard emphatically said, yes, yeah, that

888
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: is that is on the table, And that is notable

889
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: because by virtue of Sunday's result, the Houston Texans, a

890
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: team that I think a lot of people assume is

891
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback, no longer have the first

892
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: overall pick. The Chicago Bears do the Chicago Bears have

893
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: Justin Fields on their rosters, so you would assume right,

894
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: although I'm sure over the next one hundred and two

895
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: days there are going to be a lot of people saying, well,

896
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: maybe they could trade Justin fields. That's going to be exhausting.

897
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for all my friends in Chicago I

898
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: have to deal with I already am, to be honest

899
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: with you, it's been two days. But there is there

900
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: is the possibility that when Chris Ballard goes through the

901
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this class with his scouting staff and they say, hey,

902
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: this guy we think is the guy in this class,

903
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: and we all believe that we are all on board

904
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: with it, that under those circumstances, Chris Ballard could be

905
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: willing to move up in the draft, potentially to the

906
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: first overall pick, to go get that guy. I think

907
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: that is a I think that's something we all sort

908
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: of assumed could be the case. But to hear Chris

909
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: emphatically say yes, that is on the table. Let's speculation season.

910
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's speculation season. And here's here's the sound on that.

911
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: This is Ballard on being willing to do whatever it

912
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: takes to get the right quarterback. If he's there for

913
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: the franchise and also what has stopped him from making

914
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: that bold draft move for a quarterback in the recent past. Yes,

915
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I do whatever it takes if we if we thought

916
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: there's a player that we're driven to get that makes

917
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: the franchise and the team better, that's what we would do.

918
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: At one point, we had Andrew Luck, you know, all right,

919
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: so then you know, you go to nineteen and then

920
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: we we'll go to the the nineteen season. Um, get done

921
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: with that one, and we decided to go with Philip

922
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: Rivers at the time. That was an area that when

923
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: we had the thirteenth pick and we ended up trading

924
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: for Buckner, that we did have serious talk about it

925
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: at the time. Um. And but at that point we said,

926
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: you know, we got a burden a hand here. We

927
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: got we're getting a three technique that's a really special

928
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: player and fits our character profile what we want. And

929
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: then in twenty one, we you know, we signed Carson,

930
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, so the opportunity to do it probably was

931
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: in third twenty you know, and we made the decision

932
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: with Buckner, and I don't I don't regret that decision. Yeah,

933
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: if there was a time to do it, it probably

934
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty or sitting there at thirteen, you can

935
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe maneuver up into the top ten. So jj I

936
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: think all of those decisions, you can understand them in

937
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: a vac you can understand why they were made at

938
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: the time they were made. But I think it's clear

939
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: that this team right now, going into this offseason, it's

940
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: it's no longer you could say a quarterback away. Yeah,

941
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: it was a full team effort to get here four

942
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: twelve and one, right, and thinking that this team was

943
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback away led the Colts down the road of veterans. It,

944
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, led him to Philip Rivers and they got close,

945
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: led him to Carson Wentz, thinking that Carson could be

946
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: here for the next five six years. You know that

947
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: that did not work out the way the Colts expected

948
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: it too, And then that's why, right, you know, Matt Ryan,

949
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: same thing. You know, you think we're a quarterback away.

950
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: We can drop this veteran into this roster with a

951
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: great offensive line in great running and we don't have

952
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick, right and right, So sudden

953
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: you do those things and it turns out your offensive

954
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: line does not play up to their standard. Your run

955
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: game is then not up to its standard, and Matt

956
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Ryan gets you know, crushed back there quite a bit,

957
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: and then he turns the ball over more than I

958
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: think he expected to. And now you're sitting here and yeah,

959
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: you're saying, we aren't just a quarterback away, but we

960
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: acknowledge the position we are in the draft and the

961
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: opportunity that is in front of us too. If we

962
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: get the right quarterback, and we think we can get

963
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: the right quarterback, this is an opportunity to go get

964
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: that guy. You don't just take a quarterback because you're

965
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: in the top four in the draft. That is the

966
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: other thing that Chris Ballard made sure to stress here

967
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: on a No fans probably don't want to hear it,

968
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: but if you just take a quarterback because well we

969
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: need one and we're picking in the top four and

970
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: you take the wrong guy, that sets your franchise back,

971
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: not just one year, that sets you back five years.

972
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: You know. I think about a team like the New

973
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: York Jets, where they that team, that defense was awesome

974
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: this year. They were a bunch of banshees out there.

975
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener was like one of the best cornerbacks in

976
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. Garrett Wilson on offense had a great year

977
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year type stuff. And the quarterback

978
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: they drafted second overall in twenty twenty one got benched

979
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: like five times. But yeah, and they it looks like

980
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: they did not have the proper evaluation of that quarterback,

981
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, and instead of having a team that's on

982
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: the ascent and ready to win, they missed the playoffs.

983
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: That is the risk you take if you if you

984
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: get the quarterback evaluation wrong, is you can build a

985
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: great team around it. And if you're stuck with a

986
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: guy you have to bench in year two, that sets

987
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: you back. That really does well. We've talked a lot about,

988
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, culture, and we've talked a lot about, you know,

989
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: what's going on behind the scenes. You know, there's there's

990
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: things that happen on the field, certainly, but the cavon

991
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: Thibadeau hit on Nick Foles and the lack of reactions

992
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, painted a picture as to where

993
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: this team was and where it is going into the offseason.

994
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: I have one final clip I want to play. This

995
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: was Chris Ballard. Today was towards the end of the

996
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: press conference. He was talking about why the Colts culture

997
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: is seemingly not where it needs to be right now,

998
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: and also the team not doing a good job of

999
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: managing expectations that you know, they had for themselves and

1000
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: certainly the outside world had for them when Matt Ryan

1001
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: was traded, and um, certainly a lot of hype and

1002
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: expectations around this team going into the season. If I

1003
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: had something we're digging through to figure out as something

1004
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: we're digging through, fair, No, it's a fair question. Um,

1005
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. And everything is being blamed on

1006
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: when he got here, But how did they get that? Well, ultimately,

1007
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: our plan from a from a roster standpoint wasn't good enough. Okay,

1008
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: that's one. And then I think all the change, you know,

1009
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: and sometimes like here's what we didn't do very good job,

1010
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: but we didn't manage expectations very well at all at all.

1011
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: Like anytime you go, no, but that's that's like we've

1012
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: been so process oriented, Okay, and that's who I am,

1013
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: frank wise, that's who we want to be. We're gonna

1014
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: be process oriented and with a good process, you're gonna

1015
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: lead to a good result. Well, every time we keep

1016
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: going and getting these vet quarter and this falls on me.

1017
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: This is on me. You'll get a vet quote. Well,

1018
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: here's the expectation. We're going to super Bowl. They got

1019
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: a good roster, they're going to super Bowl. Well there

1020
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: was holes in that, and you know our jobs to

1021
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: fix those holes. Yeah, those holes became evident as the

1022
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: season progressed. I mean it started Week one when you

1023
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: tie with the Houston Texans and you fall flat and

1024
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: you don't play well. And again that's the route to

1025
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: all of this. I mean, everybody said that this is

1026
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: a team that's la're gonna dethrone the Titans for the

1027
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: AFC South. And then you start playing games and you

1028
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: go from an early season favorite to a four win

1029
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: team that had some epic losses, a team that fired

1030
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: their head coach. I mean, the last two and a

1031
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: half months have been nuts. It's been crazy, right, So

1032
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: they gotta get a leader of men in here as

1033
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: a head coach against some really good coordinators from a

1034
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: technical football standpoint, and they got to get that locker

1035
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: room figured out as well. I don't think that it's

1036
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: so much comes from the expectations, because I think the

1037
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: expectation should be every year that you're winning the division.

1038
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: That is the expectation that you're competitive, that you're going

1039
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. That's what it should be when you

1040
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: get to training camp and everyone has so much optimism.

1041
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: If you're not expecting to do that, why are you here?

1042
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: If you're not expecting to win, if you're not willing

1043
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: to do what it takes to be part of building

1044
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: something that is in contention to win the division, win

1045
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: the conference, win a super Bowl. What I think it's

1046
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: not the expectations. It's the accountability of the guys who

1047
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: aren't here to do those things. And what I think

1048
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: is there was not enough intra locker room accountability to

1049
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: hold guys to the standards of what it was going

1050
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: to take. Because even if there were holes in this roster,

1051
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: they're flat out weren't guys that played up to the

1052
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: standard and did not play to their potential. And that

1053
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: is more of an issue to me then the holes

1054
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: in the roster, because the holes and the roster will

1055
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: get addressed. I think when you look at the outcome

1056
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: of the season and the lack of results and the

1057
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter collapses and all that, it's straight up because

1058
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: there was not enough accountability there was not enough leadership.

1059
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: There was not there weren't enough guys willing to do

1060
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: whatever it took for the greater good. Yeah, I mean,

1061
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: that's that's what it comes down to. And you know,

1062
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I think for the next stage, there are some very

1063
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: telling interviews. If you go back and listen, I'm not

1064
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: going to call any of them out. Everyone can look

1065
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: at them themselves and evaluate Buttews player interviews absolutely from

1066
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: the players in which they said. And this goes back

1067
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: to kind of what we heard Matt Ryan allude to

1068
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: earlier is that these are the times you find out

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00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: more about guys and you either gain respect or lose

1070
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: respect for guys in situations like these. And just to

1071
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: kind of put a bow on it, two players who

1072
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: I gained a lot of respect for this year, among others,

1073
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: DeForrest Buckner and Grover Stewart. Chris Ballard singled them both

1074
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: out today and said, you wouldn't have known what our

1075
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: record was if you watch these guys practice. If you

1076
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: watch these guys play, they were both fantastic this year.

1077
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: DeForrest Buckner is playing with a brace on his elbow

1078
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: pretty much all season, didn't let it effect his play

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00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: at all, but you know, I think the next head coach,

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00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, whoever it is, I think you probably need

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00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: that leadership, that accountability to come from the head coach

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00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: to start rebuilding this thing. Um. And that's something you know,

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00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: as you evaluate what Jeff Saturday can bring, what some

1084
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: other candidates can bring, UM, that's sort of where the

1085
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: culture probably needs to start from the head coach. Indeed, Yeah,

1086
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy subject matter here today as we

1087
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: talk about the fallout from the end of the season.

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00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna skirt

1089
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: the random thought of the week because I am tough

1090
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: right here. I am having a hard time play together.

1091
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: No better time for a random thought. He I don't think.

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00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't really think I have one, though. That's the problem.

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00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: I've had no time to to be random because I've

1094
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: been so dialed into the heavy subject football matter. So

1095
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: perhaps we regroup and getting ready for next week unless

1096
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: you want to take over here. What's the worst question

1097
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: you could ask in an interview to a head coaching candidate?

1098
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh great, Oh, this is spontaneously awesome. Oh wow, it's

1099
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: got to be like a combine question that those draft

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00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: prospects get at the combine, right, Like if you were

1101
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: a dressed what color would you be? Red or black? Like?

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00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: What what does that? Like? That that question that you ask,

1103
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: because it's like I'm gonna get inside this this person's mind.

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: But like, do you really right? Like do you build

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00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 1: your peanut butter and jelly by peanut butter on both

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00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: sides of the bread with the jelly in the middle,

1107
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: or do you go peanut butter on completely one side

1108
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: jelly on the other side? Like that is a perfect example,

1109
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: yes of that. Yeah, do you cut in a triangle

1110
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: or do you cut half way down the middle? I've

1111
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: got one because of what we did with the kids

1112
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: the other day. What do you think? What do you

1113
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: think the E and Chuck E Cheese stands for? What

1114
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: do you think E and Chuck E Cheese stands? I

1115
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: think it's his middle initial. I think he's Charles E Cheese.

1116
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: He's just stand Yeah, what does E stand for? Yeah?

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00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: Is it Edward? Is it Earl Ezekiel Edgar? Chuck Edgar

1118
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: Chee's a big edge fan cheese. That would be the

1119
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: local franchise here in Indianapo. That would be okay, So Larry,

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00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: you got the job. You just named a Colts legend,

1121
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: you got the job, that's where your head's at. That

1122
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: would bringing the team back to the glory days. That

1123
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: would also be the worst question you could ask a

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00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: head coaching candidate, right the E and Chuck E Cheese?

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00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: And also how old were you when you found out

1126
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: that it was Chuck E Cheese and not Chuck E Cheese. Oh?

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00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: I knew that the whole time because I was like

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Speaker 1: thirty two. Oh wow, Well, yeah, I do the whole time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You just look at the sign driving cheese, not Chucky Wow.

1130
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: Driving down the other day and looked at us, looked

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00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: at the sign. Oh it's it's Chuck E Cheese. All right,

1132
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: offseason plans, Lara, are you gonna decompress at all what

1133
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: you got going on here? The next step? And I

1134
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: hope so? Right? Uh yeah, get a Laila. Oh. I've

1135
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: kind of made a promise to myself that I'm not

1136
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: going to take on any like extracurricular stuff throughout the

1137
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: month of January and just try to enjoy a little

1138
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: time at home and get back to spend a little

1139
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: bit more time with the fam, hopefully making some trips

1140
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: down to see the family. My parents and sisters and

1141
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: niece and all of that. But no, like major offseason plans,

1142
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: we will of course get to work for with the

1143
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: next pick, our off season draft series. That work will

1144
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: start at the end of January, so something for fans

1145
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: to look forward to. It's always an incredible process to

1146
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: be a part of. We love being able to bring

1147
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: that production to life. So that's certainly something that work wise.

1148
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: What a year to do it too. Fourth overall, pick,

1149
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: you might have something to talk about. Good, Yeah, interesting, JJ,

1150
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: you have taken any vayka Eventually. Right now we're potty

1151
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: training our twins and you can do that on the road. No,

1152
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: you can do that. Come on now, the multitask a

1153
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: little bit. Get a vacation home down. I'm very proud

1154
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: of Henry. He's got it down already, Charlie. We're working

1155
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: on He'll get there, yep. But that is we're we're

1156
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: doing the like the no closed weekend, which is a

1157
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: thing that I didn't like. I did that every week.

1158
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Do you be Friday? As long as long as everything

1159
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: winds up in the potty, you know, do whatever you want.

1160
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: We got we got to do that thing, damn. Yeah.

1161
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: So there's just gonna be. It's gonna be a everywhere.

1162
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long weekend in the stink of

1163
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: its household, but hopefully be the stank of the wall.

1164
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's gonna be. I already had to

1165
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: already had to take a host one of their high chairs.

1166
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: We need to get into the nitty gritty of that. Hey, wait,

1167
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: what do you got? What's on deck for you? And

1168
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: watching watching watching college basketball and hanging out with a

1169
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: two year old as he continues to dominate me as

1170
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: he always one one random thought is wrapping things up.

1171
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 1: So I was I got so excited last night because

1172
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: I was watching the National Championship. Not because of the

1173
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: National Championship, but while watching it, they were promoting the

1174
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: slate of games for Wildcard weekend. Is there a better

1175
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: weekend sports viewing football viewing of the year than the

1176
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: one all day Saturday, all day Sunday and then Monday night.

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Then get rid of the Monday night. What is your

1178
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: ideal viewing situation for that? Because mine, hands down, almporiums

1179
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: actually perfect way to do it. A fresh play to

1180
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: Hermanakis in front of me. That is what I am

1181
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: signing up for for Super wild Card I do actually

1182
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: know where I'm gonna be on Saturday. I'm I'm gonna

1183
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: be at Nick's watching I You play at one o'clock

1184
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: and then watching a boatload of football after that. Welcome back,

1185
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: Jeffrey baryld Dan. I had beans cooking to me I'm

1186
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: the stove before we started, so I had to go

1187
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: check them out and run out and then. But that's

1188
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: the fun of this podcast. That would actually be that

1189
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: actually be one of the worst questions you could ask

1190
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: a coach an interview. What kind of beans are you making?

1191
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: Pinto black red Kidney. I'm you missed a lot yet,

1192
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot, but I'll be able to talk

1193
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: about what I was doing and where I was at

1194
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: probably two podcasts from now, which would be great. I'm

1195
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: perfect for great listening. But I'm glad to be back. Guys.

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about this bump. You got it all right? Well,

1197
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: you want me to close it out or do you

1198
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: want to say about Oh, I want to say you

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00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't even get your random thought of the week, you know,

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00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: I like to kind of yeah, I didn't come prepared

1201
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: for that. You didn't come prepared because the football subject

1202
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: matter was pretty heavy. Okay, well, if we had fun.

1203
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: Here's my random thought of the week. And Lara knows

1204
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. If you see an owl out

1205
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: in the wilderness, it's like seeing a unicorn. So you're

1206
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: blessed if you see an owl. Listen, know what I'm saying.

1207
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: An owl. You don't see a lot of them in

1208
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: your neighborhood, in your backyard, in the shed anything. I

1209
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: don't care. If you live at Eagle Creek, you don't

1210
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: see a lot of owls. So when you do, market down,

1211
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: say thanks to the heavens above. And hey, like I said,

1212
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: it's like seeing a unicorn. It's my take. This is

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00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: the Colt's Official podcast, presented by wind Bet Matt Taylor,

1214
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: Voice to the Colts JJ Steak if it's from Colts

1215
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: dot Com, the senior writer and the face, and then

1216
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: also the Voice of the Colts, Miss Latte, Lara Overton.

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's the last time I'll call you that.

1218
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: But when I see you coming walking in with a mug,

1219
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: I think he got something nice and warm underneath the hood. There.

1220
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: I do got something a little afternoon PI and matey

1221
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: shut up when I walked in. Just shut up. Please.

1222
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Monday Night we don't want to get out to hear

1223
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: your traditionalists. You're gonna love Monday, Monday Night game. You're saying, no,

1224
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: no Monday Night. Get the Monday Night out. By the way,

1225
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: the best week of football, or the best weekend of football,

1226
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: or the best day of football in the year. It

1227
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: is not Super Bowl Sunday. It is the Conference Championship Sunday, three,

1228
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: three o'clock, kick, six o'clock. Done by about nine thirty,

1229
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: you see him hoisted a trophy, getting ready to go

1230
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: on to the Super Bowl. That is the best quantity.

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01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: Give me quantity, all right. I enjoyed it. I was

1232
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: only here for a cup of coffee, but I mean

1233
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: the short time that I want was here. Guys, I

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01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you letting me do that and everything. Like I said,

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01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: the beans are not burning right now. So I'll have

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01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: that story in a couple of weeks. Again for JJ,

1237
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: for Matt, for Lara, Jeffrey Gorman. The Official Colts Podcast,

1238
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: brought you by our friends at win Bet. A lot

1239
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen this offseason. A lot has happened this regular season.

1240
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna be here to guide you through that. You

1241
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: can find out everything what you want always on colts

1242
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: dot com and check out our audio network for Matt

1243
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: Taylor JJ's thank It's Lara Overton. My name is gore Man.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time.