Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy four,
Speaker 1: episode one of Dirty Lei's Eye Dies You, a production
Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Monday,
Speaker 1: February six three. My name is Jack O'Brien a k A.
Speaker 1: I am also known as Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined today by a very special guest co
Speaker 1: host who is always joining us in a way. He's
Speaker 1: an artist, a musician, and the producer of this very podcast.
Speaker 1: It is super producer Justin Connor. Yo, Yo, what up?
Speaker 1: It's your boy, Justin Connor a k A hype beast,
Speaker 1: Harry a k A childless MILLENNI your man. I'm here.
Speaker 1: I'm coming out. I'm stepping from behind the scenes and
Speaker 1: uh jumping into the t DZ pool. It's guys, how
Speaker 1: are you there? We go? What's up? Man? This is
Speaker 1: it's it's long overdue, It's long overdue. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: a lot to say. God. To feel like you're just
Speaker 1: shaking shaking some some things off. Sounds so free. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're You're gonna see a new me today. You know
Speaker 1: you've got the shipped to get off your chest. Bro,
Speaker 1: you don't even know the half of it. Let's go,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Well, you are here for a
Speaker 1: banger of a guest, because in our third seat we
Speaker 1: have one of our favorites, hilarious stand up comedian actor
Speaker 1: writer who's written issues of Batman for a little outfit
Speaker 1: called DC Comments and dropped a new stand up special
Speaker 1: called Burry Me Loose a year ago. Please welcome back
Speaker 1: to the show, the brilliant, the talented. You're doing travel,
Speaker 1: what's happening? I'm back. It's me. You're doing a A
Speaker 1: k A. I didn't prepare a bunch of nicknames. I
Speaker 1: wish you would said something upfront before we got to
Speaker 1: this point. And now I'm embarrass almost embarrassed myself. That
Speaker 1: was off the top of the dome. I stumbled a
Speaker 1: little bit, but we got it. Yeah. I do feel
Speaker 1: like that's a that's a lofty endeavor to take on
Speaker 1: off the cuff, you know. Yeah, that's a big risk
Speaker 1: you talk. I respect that. Hey man, I'm here to
Speaker 1: I'm here to take risk. That's what I do. Ye. Sorry,
Speaker 1: my voice cracked when I was shouting her name. I apologize.
Speaker 1: That's okay, I have that undignified. Yeah, I just get
Speaker 1: I get nervous, you know, it's okay, that's okay. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm coming to you live from my Batman chair.
Speaker 1: You probably can't see it because it's dark as hell,
Speaker 1: But I got the Batman death Batman lighting. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the little you know, I got the screen
Speaker 1: shot from into the Spider Verse behind me, we're all
Speaker 1: black nerded out over here. Yeah, you got a bisexual
Speaker 1: lighting situation going, yeah, very perfect, right now, definitely going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Batman was in high school, all right, yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: love to see it. Are you pitching something? Oh, it's
Speaker 1: already pitched balls in your court? Oh alright, let's talk
Speaker 1: after the after the recording. Let's go. Are you is
Speaker 1: the d C stuff ongoing? Are you still still writing
Speaker 1: Batman stuff or at? What? And what was that like?
Speaker 1: You know it? Yeah, it's ongoing. I just uh, I
Speaker 1: just finished my second one end of last year. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. It's cool, it's a badge.
Speaker 1: They're out there. It's it's a very it's a very
Speaker 1: exciting thing, but you know it, uh, it also doesn't
Speaker 1: pay the rent. So I'm like, you know, it's fun,
Speaker 1: it's cool, but I'll do another one. When I do it,
Speaker 1: let me. I might be putting you in the hot
Speaker 1: seat here, But yeah, what comic books did you really
Speaker 1: gravitate towards when you first were coming up in the game.
Speaker 1: I was a manga kid growing up, so I was
Speaker 1: reading like Naruto and One Piece and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I actually grew up on like comic book cartoons more
Speaker 1: than anything. I was like watching the the Spider Man
Speaker 1: animated series, Batman animated series, X Men. That's like what
Speaker 1: really got me into it. And so like it was
Speaker 1: a little weirder that they asked me to do this
Speaker 1: up front because I was like, oh, I read them,
Speaker 1: but I don't, like, I'm not a huge nerd like that. Well,
Speaker 1: how how did they find you? Because I was doing
Speaker 1: anime videos on YouTube? Got you? Got you? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's really cool. Yeah. I I also came up similar
Speaker 1: the the X Men cartoon, the mask of the Phantasm
Speaker 1: Batman film. I probably wore that copy out. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of that. I wasn't super into the comics. Um
Speaker 1: that was more of my sister's bag. But now that
Speaker 1: I see They're coming back with the James Gunn slate
Speaker 1: of the Brave and the Bold title in there. That
Speaker 1: really got me excited because you know, the for you know,
Speaker 1: the comic book nerds out there, you guys are familiar
Speaker 1: that Brave and the Bold title coming from the Silver
Speaker 1: Age and Golden Age of of comics is really harkening
Speaker 1: back to like the foundation of comics, and I kind
Speaker 1: of I'm missing that with you know, the popcorn flicks
Speaker 1: and and Marvel and you know, I kind of I
Speaker 1: kind of enjoyed that, but I want to get back
Speaker 1: to the roots of like, you know, not just the
Speaker 1: entertain factor, but the philosophy of comics. Yeah, I mean, bro,
Speaker 1: I just I feel like, like a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I'm living the life that I wanted to live as
Speaker 1: a teenager right now, you know, where we're still semi
Speaker 1: in a pandemic and I'm just I torentted. But like
Speaker 1: the entire x Men Batman catalog, just all of these
Speaker 1: kids wanted to read My whole life torrented very legally obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, for you know, for the law purposes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just like finally getting to to like a baseline
Speaker 1: level of knowledge that I wish I had my whole
Speaker 1: life that I felt like I didn't have access to.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like there's a bunch of nerds
Speaker 1: that that grew up that like didn't have access to
Speaker 1: the ship that they liked. I was. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, there's so many people. It's it's hard to
Speaker 1: keep up now, especially as a nerd now. I mean
Speaker 1: it's the you go online, there's so many takes I
Speaker 1: I can't keep up. People are bringing up, you know,
Speaker 1: superheroes like, oh, I've been a fan of this guy
Speaker 1: for thirty years. I'm like, I've never heard of this
Speaker 1: dude in my life. The research is intense nowadays, for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of the craziest imbalances of power.
Speaker 1: Is like going out as someone who's now written Batman,
Speaker 1: and I like, my my view on Batman is that like,
Speaker 1: dude is a fascist. He's a whole fascist. He's a
Speaker 1: I think that's very obvious, and it's and it's hard
Speaker 1: to write for for him and sort of think about
Speaker 1: the themes of it, rather than like diving into this
Speaker 1: brooding character and like romanticizing him and then like going
Speaker 1: out and tweeting stuff like that and getting responses from
Speaker 1: people that I know have read more of the comics
Speaker 1: than me, but they still think, like, no, he's not
Speaker 1: a fat he's not a coup. What are you talking about? No,
Speaker 1: he does it, And so I can't like argue with them.
Speaker 1: But even though I know the real world politics more
Speaker 1: than they do, but they know that they know that
Speaker 1: fake world politics more. It's so like it's such a
Speaker 1: bizarre Batman asks the question, what if there was a
Speaker 1: cop that was competent, didn't sunk up every single time
Speaker 1: that he tried to do. I mean, he sucks up.
Speaker 1: He focks up a lot, Yeah, a lot. Recidi. The
Speaker 1: recidivism rate of Batman is through the room. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's just right back. He also kidnaps children and puts
Speaker 1: them in harm's away like all the time, so you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not super fun either. Yeah, there's a deep, deep
Speaker 1: commentary about Batman that is not even getting touched on.
Speaker 1: What if there was a cop who was like all
Speaker 1: the other cops, except he dressed as a bat that's
Speaker 1: the question that Batman. Yeah, all right, you know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better. In
Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about. There's like more reports
Speaker 1: coming about the classified documents, like no, I guess there
Speaker 1: are no classified documents, and Biden's beach house, but they're
Speaker 1: looking for classified documents and Pence's house, and like I
Speaker 1: just I've come to the realization and I don't give
Speaker 1: a ship and have never given a ship about this
Speaker 1: story at all. I think the mainstream media has kind
Speaker 1: of misjudged this one. So we'll we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about jobs are booming, you guys, wages are not,
Speaker 1: so we will talk about that. We will talk about
Speaker 1: the balloon that was traveling over the western United States
Speaker 1: for much of the end of last week. I've got
Speaker 1: so many questions about this. It's very strange. The video
Speaker 1: is fun and creepy. Jordan Peel at it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does look like a Jordan Peel, you know, footage
Speaker 1: like it's a viral marketing for the next Jordan Peel movie.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about all of that plenty more. But first,
Speaker 1: you do we like to ask our guests, what is
Speaker 1: something from your search history? Oh, I got two things
Speaker 1: from my search history. I was just double checking because
Speaker 1: I saw somebody posts they were reading a Glorious Tyme book,
Speaker 1: and I had to double check that she really worked
Speaker 1: with the CIA because I read that recently. So I
Speaker 1: google Glorious dim steynham c I A. And then I
Speaker 1: also for some reason googled uh Weeks Lilo poach Lee,
Speaker 1: which is the Aztecs sun god that they would sacrifice
Speaker 1: people too. I was doing research for a tweek Glorious
Speaker 1: Stynam worked for the CIA. Yeah, it was the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I think she was in the I think sixties and seventies,
Speaker 1: and she was like weirdly proud of it. She go
Speaker 1: to Princeton now she went to Smith Uh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But all the all those people didn't like I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation that, like Woodward and burn Steam,
Speaker 1: we're working for the CIA frequently, Like all the all
Speaker 1: the celebrities from the sixties and seventies that we're supposed
Speaker 1: to be smart, I feel like a lot of them
Speaker 1: were working for the CIA. Yeah, I mean, I may
Speaker 1: I read a whole Twitter threat about how Dave Chappelle's
Speaker 1: mom may have been complicit in uh Patrisala moona was assassination.
Speaker 1: So I feel like, so it's so much more widespread
Speaker 1: than we Yeah, at this point, like what celebrity isn't
Speaker 1: the cop or affiliated with cops? Like yeah, it's fucking
Speaker 1: every single day we come up with something new. Oh no, man,
Speaker 1: it runs deep. Chris Pratt, Chris Pratt, I'm saying, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the jury's yeah, jury has been decided on that. Oh
Speaker 1: you don't think he's cool? Actually, you know what, I
Speaker 1: feel like if Chris Pratt was c I A. He
Speaker 1: would be way more open about it, right, yeah, he
Speaker 1: would be dragging to everyone. Yeah, that's right. If you
Speaker 1: the new Jack Reacher, Yeah yeah, yeah, Chris Pratt is
Speaker 1: a cop and Jim from the Office is c I A.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, yeah, yeah, it feels like it. What
Speaker 1: do you find out about the sun God? What was
Speaker 1: the what was the tweet you're writing? Oh, I was
Speaker 1: just confirming the spelling. Really, I like, I guess I
Speaker 1: had read. I had listened to a whole podcast about
Speaker 1: the fall of the Aztec Empire. It was it was
Speaker 1: a whole thing that was it was tweeting about how
Speaker 1: the US practices human sacrifice, but they just do it
Speaker 1: way over away longer period of time, and it was
Speaker 1: just like, could you just cut my heart out with
Speaker 1: a city and blade? I would really rather that. Just
Speaker 1: throw my Yeah, just throw my body down a pyramid
Speaker 1: while the while the blood flows down like a normal person.
Speaker 1: You're fucking weirdo dignified yea, yeah, just like at least
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this, like, let me look cool. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I feel I have Mel Gibson do it right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: apocalyptic apocalypto on it. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I
Speaker 1: think that was a ko con in that one, right mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about Wakonda Forever. Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: I think both. Yeah, I mean yes, yes it was.
Speaker 1: He wasn't both. Yeah, And the sacrifices didn't work. It
Speaker 1: seems like for like the they didn't get the desired result.
Speaker 1: You know what, I would say, probably not. I would
Speaker 1: say probably not given a given even the results. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what if something you think is overrated? Um, I mean
Speaker 1: you know, I'm on the I'm on the internet a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like people are very aware of the state
Speaker 1: of the world right now, and I would say what's
Speaker 1: overrated right now is all that dumer ship. Keep keep
Speaker 1: pushing all this doomer ship like there's no way out
Speaker 1: of this situation that we're in and it but there
Speaker 1: absolutely is. You know what I'm saying, We can do
Speaker 1: we can do stuff. We can still save the world
Speaker 1: if we if we put our minds to it. It's
Speaker 1: a silly way to say that, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a sound bite, it's not a comprehensive plan.
Speaker 1: As someone who who can fall into that dooom er spiral,
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm very anxious about the where the world is going.
Speaker 1: How do you keep yourself in check? Like how do
Speaker 1: you make sure that you know you carry that positive
Speaker 1: attitude of like, oh no, no, we can figure this out.
Speaker 1: We can find a way through this. I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, I put the Mark Fisher down every I
Speaker 1: feel like people are reading the Mark Fisher too much
Speaker 1: that capitalist realism shit. And I just like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I got I got homies I work with talk to
Speaker 1: every day just about like actionable things that we can
Speaker 1: actually do at our level, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and that if we if we actually put mind and
Speaker 1: practice to all these things, that they can expand out
Speaker 1: and said examples for Shade that can spread out across
Speaker 1: the world, you know, global implications. Yeah, for sure, the
Speaker 1: good news doesn't get a lot of light shined on it.
Speaker 1: And I mean there's so many different things like the
Speaker 1: The example my sister likes to bring up a lot
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, she did some project on
Speaker 1: like acid rain and stuff, and now that was a
Speaker 1: I mean that was a big deal. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've heard that term even once in the last like
Speaker 1: ten years or so. But you know, the climate, like
Speaker 1: you know, making statues porous and stuff and melting the
Speaker 1: foundation of shipped down. That was a real, real, real
Speaker 1: big problem. And uh we we rehearsed the Yeah, the
Speaker 1: ozone layer, the whole, one of the holes has been
Speaker 1: completely closed. I think there's still two left. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of positive things that have happened,
Speaker 1: but we just it's I think, you know, with the whole,
Speaker 1: if it bleeds, it leads thing, you kind of you
Speaker 1: have a hard time some especially me, I have a
Speaker 1: hard time even believing in the good stuff. Like even
Speaker 1: when I read a headline like oh that's good news,
Speaker 1: it kind of just fades into the background so quickly
Speaker 1: because the urgency I think is on the the extremely
Speaker 1: like violent stuff. Yeah, well there's the urgency and there's
Speaker 1: people thinking on this massive scale that's incomprehensible to them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like people think about
Speaker 1: things in terms of like what the president can do,
Speaker 1: what the even what local government can do, Like you
Speaker 1: still don't have you still don't have control over local
Speaker 1: government like that, you know, you can organize people around you,
Speaker 1: Like I got a bunch of neighbors that I still
Speaker 1: don't know that I could just go knock on a
Speaker 1: bunch of doors, organize us on that level and just
Speaker 1: like just you know, grow out from there. Also, people
Speaker 1: talk about acid rain. People don't talk about how much
Speaker 1: fun acid is. It's a good time think about it,
Speaker 1: and you can think about it in those terms. Oh man,
Speaker 1: if that's what acid rain was, the world would be
Speaker 1: a much better place. So sick, it would be so sick.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine actually was talking about how like
Speaker 1: the Western imagination is obsessed with the big solution always.
Speaker 1: Like the example he was using was like the Trojan
Speaker 1: Horse was like they everybody was fighting and die in
Speaker 1: this war and then they came up with this like
Speaker 1: one big idea that like solved everything the trojan worse
Speaker 1: that like tricked the people and it was like this
Speaker 1: one big and like that's rarely how history moves. Like
Speaker 1: usually the way history moves is like you try a
Speaker 1: bunch of different things and like slowly like and funk
Speaker 1: up a bunch. And it's not like push all your
Speaker 1: chips in on one solution that you are like reasonably
Speaker 1: sure of, because a lot of this ship we're reasonably
Speaker 1: sure of ends up being wrong in a long term. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And people have this idea that history necessarily or progress
Speaker 1: necessarily moves forward, you know what I'm saying, And uh,
Speaker 1: if you think about that in terms of the entire
Speaker 1: scope of human history and how we're just kind of
Speaker 1: a blip in all of humanity even let alone like
Speaker 1: the history of the universe, it just promotes this like
Speaker 1: inertia because you think, you think everything necessarily gets better,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to do anything right now, or
Speaker 1: I can don't do anything. It's it promotes this like
Speaker 1: like this predetermination, like a lack of imagination. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's always that that fucked up my imagination
Speaker 1: when I like I can't when I got this idea
Speaker 1: in my head that it was like all just like
Speaker 1: on this set course of like slow progress. Everything is
Speaker 1: getting better, Science has it covered, Science is going to
Speaker 1: figure it all out, and the world just became like
Speaker 1: a bunch less interesting to me. And then when I
Speaker 1: got older and out of like the public school and
Speaker 1: you know, even college, that's when I realized, oh, it's
Speaker 1: like a mess out there, and it's very like mysterious
Speaker 1: and interesting. Just gonna say, like, I think it's the
Speaker 1: part of the problem lies in the way, you know,
Speaker 1: we're taught history in the US, like in our public schools.
Speaker 1: We I think America has a problem with idol worship,
Speaker 1: and and we pick out these figures in history and
Speaker 1: like they portrayed them to you in history class, like
Speaker 1: these are icons, Like they're bigger, They're much bigger than you.
Speaker 1: They're larger than life. And I kind of got the point.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, JF will come along to save us
Speaker 1: at some point or something, and that's not gonna happen um,
Speaker 1: And I I think JFK will come along and save us,
Speaker 1: will declaring war on different overseas and sexually assaulting all
Speaker 1: of his employees like they really they really whitewash a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff. But and but as a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's taken care of. And I think
Speaker 1: there's a there's some sort of if I can give
Speaker 1: them as much benefit of the doubt as I can
Speaker 1: possibly give, there's some sort of benevolence in that of like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to paint this world from my kids where
Speaker 1: they don't have to worry. Like I'm teaching him about
Speaker 1: this this dangerous, dramatic like war where many people died,
Speaker 1: but you know there are good people and that's ultimately
Speaker 1: what wins over. And you know that's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 1: And I think that's dangerous rhetoric when you start making it,
Speaker 1: you know, to the point of like, you know, perfect example, MLK,
Speaker 1: the U. S. Government told him to kill himself and
Speaker 1: then we hold him up as a icon at the
Speaker 1: same time after his death. It's so two faced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: books person for many great brands in the United States,
Speaker 1: you know, and lots of lots of commercials. Yeah, might
Speaker 1: have been the first place I saw, Yeah when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, funny ship man, what is uh? What
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? You know what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say imagination and the indomitable human spirit, but
Speaker 1: also just learning. Learning is good. I feel like I
Speaker 1: like rediscovered It sounds so stupid, but rediscovered just the
Speaker 1: power of learning ship as an adult. I feel like
Speaker 1: we uh to the point of imagination. We just kind
Speaker 1: of like give adults the impression that they're too old
Speaker 1: to learn new ships. You know, I'm one years old.
Speaker 1: I'm not that old. I feel I've like I've been
Speaker 1: convinced that I couldn't learn new stuff since I was
Speaker 1: like twelve or thirteen years old. Yeah, and that that's crazy,
Speaker 1: right right, just like to be like I'm too old
Speaker 1: to learn how to play music, I'm to learn, too
Speaker 1: old to learn how to learn like math, science, all
Speaker 1: these things. Just like, I don't know, man, we got
Speaker 1: to reframe our whole idea of education in this country. Man,
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of this ship on your own.
Speaker 1: YouTube is a YouTube is free. It's free. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of ship on their libraries are cool. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I thought this is gonna be funnier, but it's not.
Speaker 1: It's just a serious point. It's just a real serious point.
Speaker 1: Such good points. Learning is fun, like the t Rex,
Speaker 1: Like the t Rex with sunglasses said on the poster
Speaker 1: in my fourth grade classroom. Learning is fun. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I mean, I've had this thought before, even like
Speaker 1: my final couple of years of high school, Like the
Speaker 1: junior senior year, I started thinking. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: as when Wikipedia was, you know, like everyone was doing
Speaker 1: their research assignments based off of Wikipedia entries, and I
Speaker 1: was like, literally, every piece of information I'm about to
Speaker 1: pay twenty dollars a year four is already available for free.
Speaker 1: You just have to know how to form a curriculum
Speaker 1: and guide yourself through it. And that's that's the part
Speaker 1: that's hard to do. But it's not impossible. It's figuring
Speaker 1: out how to like make it stick in your brain.
Speaker 1: But it's all out there. It's all available for you
Speaker 1: to just look up and and have it change your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like you've got to reframe education
Speaker 1: to be like how do I meet my own needs
Speaker 1: and how do I my own needs and including the
Speaker 1: ship that I'm just curious about, you know, how do
Speaker 1: I learn for myself instead of learning how to prop
Speaker 1: up this like whether it's like a nation state or
Speaker 1: some other institution, you know, like just learn for yourself
Speaker 1: instead of learn what people need you to learn after
Speaker 1: making you say the pledge of allegiance and whatnot. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's I feel like there's a general belief that life
Speaker 1: like peaks when you're young in the US, especially because
Speaker 1: that is one more most valuable too corporations as consumers.
Speaker 1: That's why like eighteen to thirty four is the target demographic.
Speaker 1: And it's like so that that's the part that gets
Speaker 1: like glorified, and that's the part that gets to show
Speaker 1: to us. But it's as someone who is an incredibly
Speaker 1: slow learner like that, you you just get you can
Speaker 1: get if you're willing to like go through uncomfortable ship,
Speaker 1: you can just get better. Yeah, and like just peel
Speaker 1: back layers of the onion that is your you know,
Speaker 1: all the ship. Like I was. I was so full
Speaker 1: of ship for most of the like most of my
Speaker 1: adult life, like and had no idea you know, yeah here,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's I think people also have a
Speaker 1: big problem with looking foolish or whatever that means to them,
Speaker 1: or you know, or failing like attempting something and not
Speaker 1: looking cool while doing it, or like looking like you
Speaker 1: don't know something while you're doing it, I think is
Speaker 1: a big fear for a lot of people. It's it's
Speaker 1: not healthy. You need to get over that ship. No
Speaker 1: one cares about that as much as you do, and
Speaker 1: it's holding you back. Go out there and live your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you know, maybe maybe the death of Twitter,
Speaker 1: you know, in the coming week, Well we'll change a
Speaker 1: lot of people attitude about that, you know, so that
Speaker 1: they're just gonna start charging for like the baseline, like
Speaker 1: just to use the ship. Yeah, there's gonna be uh,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a basic tier. I guess they announced yesterday.
Speaker 1: Good because I've been wondering when the collapse was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's been talked about for so long and it's this
Speaker 1: and I feel like Miles waiting on this baby, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, when this Twitter fucking collapse? Right? When will
Speaker 1: I be free? When will I finally be able to
Speaker 1: let go of this stupid as platform? All right, ch'all
Speaker 1: hit me with the discord invite. That's where I'm I'm
Speaker 1: coming to hang out with Zeke Gang in the Discord.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, yeah, same here, I'm i I'll join
Speaker 1: the Discord. I swore I wouldn't, I think on air once,
Speaker 1: but I'm coming there now, let's do all right, what's
Speaker 1: your what's your Twitter? So they know, Oh I'm not
Speaker 1: on Twitter. You're not on Twitter? Where do they hit
Speaker 1: you up? Instagram? You can find me at j con
Speaker 1: the Smith J C O N t H E S
Speaker 1: M I t H. I haven't decided that that's a
Speaker 1: ray Kuana Cheff reference yet. I like it. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll hold each other accountable. We both just and I
Speaker 1: will be in the discord in the coming days, so
Speaker 1: hit us up. All right, let's take a quick break,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll talk about classified documents and Biden's
Speaker 1: beach house, you guys, And we're back. And the media,
Speaker 1: like I'm mostly observing this through headlines that I just
Speaker 1: like see shuffling across the New York Times, drug report, CNN.
Speaker 1: There's always like an update on like no classified documents
Speaker 1: and Biden's beach house last week and now they're looking
Speaker 1: for classified documents and pencils. And I haven't given a
Speaker 1: ship about this story like from the start. And at
Speaker 1: first I was like, and that's because I'm anti Trump,
Speaker 1: and like you know, I was like critical of myself
Speaker 1: for not giving a shit about it. But it's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know they there, I couldn't be less concerned
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is like hoarding documents to sell them
Speaker 1: to other countries, like because he's like trying to make
Speaker 1: money off of being the president. Like that's what we
Speaker 1: were interested in from Trump, and that does sound like
Speaker 1: some ship Trump would do. Joe Biden is not that cool,
Speaker 1: Like he's not doing that ship. He's not that interesting.
Speaker 1: He he is doing this by accident. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's just a talking point for Fox News to be like,
Speaker 1: well what about this? But I feel like the mainstream
Speaker 1: media just I don't know. They they like have this
Speaker 1: logic puzzle in their brain where they're like, well, if
Speaker 1: president also has documents he's not supposed to, then other
Speaker 1: president who did it gets away free. And it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: like an inertia machine to once you have like a
Speaker 1: headline that you know whoever is running the website or
Speaker 1: producing the show, and they're seeing like, oh, ratings go
Speaker 1: up when we mentioned this thing. We didn't expect the
Speaker 1: documents situation to go where it went with Trump. We
Speaker 1: expected it to be like a one day story and
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh hey, here's some more. Oh hey
Speaker 1: here whoa, this is looking nefarious, this is looking weird,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're like, oh ship, President Biden, oh ship,
Speaker 1: and it just becomes more of like a like oh well,
Speaker 1: this story got mentioned and it gets headlined. So now
Speaker 1: here's another thing with this bridge these two things together,
Speaker 1: and here you go, here's another story for tomorrow. It's
Speaker 1: so lazy. Yeah, I just don't understand what the president
Speaker 1: can do with classified documents at home that he wouldn't
Speaker 1: just do at the office, Like he's not Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: picturing him just reading inja scrolls and doing the same
Speaker 1: dute to for five episodes. But beyond I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what what the concern is and how
Speaker 1: much of this is just old men having poor record keeping.
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't know where's what's the story here?
Speaker 1: I just don't give a thing. The Trump one is intriguing.
Speaker 1: That is vaguely because they were like, hey, you have
Speaker 1: these documents. He's like I do like give him back
Speaker 1: and he was like fuck you. And then he was
Speaker 1: like I it's like I don't. I don't have those documents,
Speaker 1: and then they're you're like, hey man, we're here, Like look,
Speaker 1: the documents are right there. You were holding them that
Speaker 1: that was weird, and he's the type of person he
Speaker 1: does have like nefarious relations with the Saudias and all
Speaker 1: all sorts of wild ship. So like it's just it's
Speaker 1: a it's another one of these things where you're like
Speaker 1: trying to pretend that Trump is like other presidents, and
Speaker 1: it's just like that's that's not that's never going to
Speaker 1: be the case. I mean, bro, I I got a
Speaker 1: frame magazine cover Rustle from the Vice offices in is
Speaker 1: that bad? You know? I should I give that bad?
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like it's the problem. They canceled the show.
Speaker 1: So now the way these searches are being conducted is
Speaker 1: like they're confirming with the person. The persons like, okay,
Speaker 1: coming in. I think Pence might actually plant documents so
Speaker 1: that people think he's more interesting because he's so whack.
Speaker 1: Like the the idea that they're searching in pensives is
Speaker 1: just like so sad the way this motherfucker's up to anything,
Speaker 1: or is like not so careful that he would actually
Speaker 1: do it, but like I feel like to like get
Speaker 1: the pop and to get the headline, I think Pence
Speaker 1: might like plant some documents. He's like, hey man, these
Speaker 1: are from j store. What is it? They're like research papers,
Speaker 1: these are available. Yeah, alright, on the subject of kind
Speaker 1: of relearning stuff, scientists believe they've just discovered the secret
Speaker 1: to Rome's self healing concrete, which I didn't really know
Speaker 1: that's what was on on with Rome's concrete. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that there was like a recipe that Rome had
Speaker 1: figured out and that we like that just got lost
Speaker 1: and that like, oh man, we should have should have
Speaker 1: hung on to that one. But yeah, it's always interesting
Speaker 1: to me to be reminded that like we forget ship
Speaker 1: all the time, like we lose books to history, we
Speaker 1: lose important secrets. Recipes. Yeah, it's something with limestone, right,
Speaker 1: some like crazy yeah recipe situation. Yeah, it's like hot
Speaker 1: a lot like hot lime, it seems to be, which
Speaker 1: I think that's also just like a flavor of toastito.
Speaker 1: But like I think it's like hot, Like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: something that like interacts with it in a way that
Speaker 1: like creates heat and that like they thought that what
Speaker 1: they were seeing was like an error and and they
Speaker 1: were like, there's all these like white chunks throughout the thing.
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't mix it well enough. And it
Speaker 1: turns out that was like the signature that they should
Speaker 1: have been using to be like, oh no, they were
Speaker 1: really onto something. And when this ship cracks and that,
Speaker 1: like all you need to do is get it wet
Speaker 1: and it reforms. Right, we lost so much cool ship
Speaker 1: to history, like we don't even know about Like wasn't
Speaker 1: there like a like a birth control plant or something
Speaker 1: existed around the time as well that we're completely extinct
Speaker 1: and like something what was that? Something like flamethrower technology
Speaker 1: or some ship that they yeah, Greek fire yeaheah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Just I mean I'm I constantly wonder like how much
Speaker 1: cool ship like, because this stuff is equivalent to what
Speaker 1: we're you know, I mean, maybe even more technologically advanced
Speaker 1: than what we're dealing with today. And I think we
Speaker 1: kind of have a bias of like if it's old,
Speaker 1: it's not worth it. But this is fascinating. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so so we got this cool technology, and I know,
Speaker 1: I see, I understand that it's cool and practical and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But what we could do is let
Speaker 1: the mafia infiltrate all the workers unions, and uh we
Speaker 1: can and we can just build infrastructure that's that's destined
Speaker 1: the crumble in like two to five years, and you know,
Speaker 1: we just stimulate the economy by having these That's what
Speaker 1: I think. That's really it, though I do. I I like,
Speaker 1: even like without the mafia, Like, you sell more concrete
Speaker 1: if the ship, you know, Like you sell more iPhones
Speaker 1: if they break after a couple of years, like after
Speaker 1: the fourth update, like yeah, phone, like I think, and
Speaker 1: also like I don't realized. So making concrete accounts for
Speaker 1: seven percent of global emissions, and concrete is the most
Speaker 1: consumed material on Earth, second only to water. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: uh read or watched or something very recently that we
Speaker 1: could cut down of all production and consumption and have
Speaker 1: plenty for everybody everybody in the world, right, but we
Speaker 1: don't want to. But we don't want to. It's not
Speaker 1: creating jobs, you know it. We're not creating jobs, and
Speaker 1: that's what's most important. You've got to create jobs that
Speaker 1: don't meet anyone's needs and don't pay very well either
Speaker 1: you need three or four of them, just to live.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, got them busy so that they
Speaker 1: have to work, so that they never stopped for a
Speaker 1: moment and be like, wait a fucking second here, we
Speaker 1: got to deify the state. We have to deify the state.
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about, everybody. Yeah, I really do
Speaker 1: think it's important, Like my understanding even even the fact
Speaker 1: that they've known that there was this better form of
Speaker 1: concrete and they just haven't been able to like figure
Speaker 1: it out, completely blows up my understanding of like our
Speaker 1: scientific capabilities, which admittedly is driven mostly by movies like
Speaker 1: Face Off an Iron Man. But like you know, I
Speaker 1: just assume you take a little chunk of the Roman
Speaker 1: concrete and you put it in like a little machine
Speaker 1: you analyze it, yeah, like a microwave looking matter analyzer,
Speaker 1: and it's like this, it is this and this and this,
Speaker 1: and you're like boom. I mean it's like you said,
Speaker 1: they just thought they didn't mix it well, and they
Speaker 1: never tried to like just do it that way. It's
Speaker 1: just like recreate this. Yeah. I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: think that's the military industrial complex ship because you know,
Speaker 1: all sciences the military and whatnot, Like you mentioned Iron Man,
Speaker 1: every like every couple of years, I feel like the
Speaker 1: biggest science news is they're making a real Iron Man suit,
Speaker 1: and nobody is like for who, not one time is that?
Speaker 1: Have I seen an article it's like for who? Who
Speaker 1: is that for? Yeah, they're making real they're making Gundams.
Speaker 1: Though they're making real Gundams. They did. Uh the last
Speaker 1: like Boston Scientific robot that they showed everybody like it.
Speaker 1: They the way they the context they put it in
Speaker 1: was that construction site, but it was like it's like
Speaker 1: massively powerful bipedal robot. It was like that like came
Speaker 1: from a sitting position, like leaped to its feet, did
Speaker 1: a back flip like through this massive like bag of
Speaker 1: weight onto this platform over its head, left onto the platform,
Speaker 1: and it's like they built a gazebo in twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: Like that's not what that was for. You don't need
Speaker 1: that for the fucking constructions like like that, like just
Speaker 1: having killing like had it going through a you know,
Speaker 1: obstacle course with machine guns or something, if you like
Speaker 1: just be honest about what you're building this ship for.
Speaker 1: Right and even even when it comes to this concrete
Speaker 1: s I think they're gonna like even if they figure
Speaker 1: it out, like the way you know, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: the water down version of that. It's not gonna heal itself.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make it so you have to replace it
Speaker 1: even more, you know how they give us the cheap
Speaker 1: ship where it doesn't work right, right, Yeah? Right. They
Speaker 1: got the police dogs already, uh, the little black mirror
Speaker 1: police dogs out there, and I've seen people push those over.
Speaker 1: You know, they're very vulnerable. That's the thing. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying about. Like, so I had
Speaker 1: a big thing like earlier, like a few weeks back,
Speaker 1: where I was talking about how amazing, like somebody figured
Speaker 1: out something about the second bounce in error in the
Speaker 1: human gait, Like the the human like how we walk
Speaker 1: is this incredibly complex thing, the like defied scientific understanding
Speaker 1: for a while. And I was making fun of all
Speaker 1: the robots that they've tried to make walk on two
Speaker 1: feet and like they just always seem like they're not
Speaker 1: good at that. And somebody sent me this video of
Speaker 1: the new Boston Scientific Construction killer robot to to like
Speaker 1: just prove it. But yeah, I feel like when you
Speaker 1: get them in the field and it's like not you
Speaker 1: can't program it. So so they're like they know where
Speaker 1: everything is, and you know, it's like the Testlas self
Speaker 1: driving car unless they've like scanned the course and like
Speaker 1: cleared it ahead of time. You know, but there might
Speaker 1: be a banana peal in in in its path up
Speaker 1: ends everything. Think about all all of that. And they
Speaker 1: they figured out how to make the titties bouncing debt
Speaker 1: or alive in like two thousand two. But we're still
Speaker 1: but we're still stuck on walking. Yeah, this shows you
Speaker 1: where he where our priorities are as a nation, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That's right. I put the second
Speaker 1: hitch in my step to afoid crease in my my Jordans.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's before That's what I Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, you do a great Jordan's and your
Speaker 1: special Oh hey thank you? Those you wear, uh the
Speaker 1: blue the greats. Yeah yeah, a lot of people should
Speaker 1: on mids. But those are fired. Yeah. No, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of those. They were actually uh they
Speaker 1: were stolen when I was in Oakland on tour. But
Speaker 1: you know I had a good run with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here you go. Never got him increased before beforehand. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The problem with those is the swede. You know the
Speaker 1: colors like the crease on you know, we don't have
Speaker 1: to get into all that. Yeah, yeah, but they do
Speaker 1: turn greenish, yes they do. Yeah, all right, and then
Speaker 1: there's uh. In the last week, Labor Department announced a
Speaker 1: surge in new jobs. Biden is taking credit for the
Speaker 1: job boom, arguing that it's now crystal clear that his
Speaker 1: economic package was rock solid. But a rock solid package
Speaker 1: from okay, that's right, Yeah, he's very rile. But it
Speaker 1: was actually led by bars and restaurants opening back up
Speaker 1: after the vacancy started sparked by the pandemic. And it's
Speaker 1: there's also a vast downward trend in so like technology,
Speaker 1: finance and manufacturing firms are laying off workers and then
Speaker 1: like leisure and hospitality is adding jobs. So that that's
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. But like the quality of jobs is
Speaker 1: going down, but there's just like more of them. The
Speaker 1: quality of life you can live with between like the
Speaker 1: tech job and the lee you're in hospitality jobs is
Speaker 1: like the it's a shame that again this goes back
Speaker 1: to our point earlier. They seems like just there's an
Speaker 1: active push to just preserve jobs that will grind you
Speaker 1: into dust, so you have absolutely no time to think
Speaker 1: you might need to have two or three or four
Speaker 1: of them just to make it by. And I truly
Speaker 1: do think we've brought this up a number of times
Speaker 1: on on the podcast, but I think they really do
Speaker 1: not want to have what happened in happened again. And
Speaker 1: it seems to be in the system incentivizes you know,
Speaker 1: this this immune system. You bring up a lot jack
Speaker 1: of like just there's like a sentient capitalistic organism that
Speaker 1: just wants to preserve the jobs and the the things
Speaker 1: that are going to grind us down to the point
Speaker 1: where we just cannot think, yeah, make the most money.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's make the most money for
Speaker 1: the most people. This will make the most money, so
Speaker 1: the most money needs to be changing hands, Like that's
Speaker 1: what the system is designed two, you know, drive towards growth,
Speaker 1: towards them, then protect once it once it has it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't I don't remember who the specific example is,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's been a big spike in
Speaker 1: people kind of going mask off with that rhetoric and
Speaker 1: explicitly saying this is the time we need to punish
Speaker 1: the working force and whatnot, and we need to limit
Speaker 1: the power of the buying power of the working class
Speaker 1: and all of these things. And I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like they're being a lot more explicit about it because
Speaker 1: people are stuck in this mindset that there's no alternative
Speaker 1: to capitalism, even though we have this critique of it.
Speaker 1: Which is why I which is why I talk about
Speaker 1: up top. I think people are so stuck in that
Speaker 1: mindset that this is the way it has to be right.
Speaker 1: And you know, there are obviously barriers to finding our
Speaker 1: way out, but there are barriers to just being in
Speaker 1: it as is, so you know why not uncomfortable. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it really is impossible for like that
Speaker 1: there's this I forget who said it, but it's the
Speaker 1: it's easier to picture the end of the world that
Speaker 1: it is to picture the end of capitalism, because we're
Speaker 1: like capitalism is so thoroughly, you know ingrained in not
Speaker 1: only our society but like just in everyone's mind set.
Speaker 1: So so like it's either like a modern day world
Speaker 1: like where that a movie takes place in, or it's
Speaker 1: like the apocalypse. It's just like, you know, everything has
Speaker 1: fallen apart. They nobody can imagine some alternative where it's
Speaker 1: just like now things are things are actually better here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I do know who said this that capitalism
Speaker 1: seems just inescapable, But so did the divine right of
Speaker 1: kings that was urs lit Legwin, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: really is fun. I I feel like there is a
Speaker 1: way out market that you only said they should in
Speaker 1: the eighties. You know, that's not that long ago, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dog they said I couldn't write on
Speaker 1: the Garfield reboot, and I feel I feel like, what
Speaker 1: what do we need a Garfiel reboot for? There's another way,
Speaker 1: there's another way. Let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk about balloons and other fun things.
Speaker 1: And we're back. And so you've you've probably seen the
Speaker 1: headlines by now. You might have even seen the videos.
Speaker 1: There was a Chinese spy balloon that was spotted over Montana,
Speaker 1: and I was having a hard time picturing what that meant,
Speaker 1: like someone saw a balloon in the sky and what what? What?
Speaker 1: What was so attention grabbing? And so I watched the
Speaker 1: YouTube video and it is fucking eerie. It is very
Speaker 1: strange looking. I'm not gonna argue that it doesn't look weird.
Speaker 1: But my whole thing is like, oh, like, what is
Speaker 1: the US government telling us this for? Like why is
Speaker 1: this story getting so out there now? Because I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like we've had they I mean they've said
Speaker 1: this has happened before a number of times. Just this
Speaker 1: one's a little different because it's sticking around, is more
Speaker 1: persistent and acting you know, strangely or whatever. But I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like the U. S. Government is really
Speaker 1: putting this out there because if they didn't want us
Speaker 1: to know about it, we wouldn't know about it right now.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, they're doing this like
Speaker 1: see you look what the Chinese government does trying to surveillance.
Speaker 1: They're all funked up. It feels like like an op,
Speaker 1: like an advertisement for like, hey, we gotta, we gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, increase our military funding because the fucking the U. S.
Speaker 1: Military they do this to us. They've collected data on
Speaker 1: us without our knowledge, and then they don't tell us
Speaker 1: about it. But then you know, the Chinese government does
Speaker 1: that and they kind of use that as a mascot
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, guys, you know it's bad out
Speaker 1: there because evil governments are doing this to you, and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you're being a little bit of a
Speaker 1: hypocrite here right, Yeah, I'm like I'm on TikTok already.
Speaker 1: What am I scared of? You know? It's so why
Speaker 1: are they My question is why would they be so
Speaker 1: conspicuous about it? Like if that's really what's going on, Like,
Speaker 1: why would they not just like they have so many
Speaker 1: other means to do to do like sinister ship, what
Speaker 1: is the balloon gonna do that a satellite couldn't. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just funny you ask, because but did you
Speaker 1: see did you guys watch the video? I watched some
Speaker 1: of the video. Let's just watch this video real quick,
Speaker 1: because the thing that's weird is that it is just stationary.
Speaker 1: It's just stuck there in the sky. And this person
Speaker 1: who's like taking the video of it has like a
Speaker 1: magnified lens, but it's it's just a white dot that
Speaker 1: is just like sitting there in the sky. And also
Speaker 1: like at that same time, Montana like had to ground
Speaker 1: all their airport like they're this there's trying to just
Speaker 1: take all of its surveillance ship from movies because they
Speaker 1: got Skynet, they got the they got the note balloon, Like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And he just stop, just stop making movies,
Speaker 1: Like what is going on? It's like, so it looks
Speaker 1: like it's a photograph, right, it looks like a photograph
Speaker 1: of like a white dot on a blue background. It
Speaker 1: looks like the moon, Like if you weren't really paying attention, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of floating there. We didn't land on the moon.
Speaker 1: The moon landed on us. This guy spends the whole
Speaker 1: video like if you turned the audio on, He like
Speaker 1: spends the whole video being like, this is not the moon.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna think it's the moon. It's not
Speaker 1: the moon. And then at the end he's like, there's
Speaker 1: the moon right there. I know the moon when I
Speaker 1: see it. That's no moon. Sorry the best cask. But anyways,
Speaker 1: the big thing that's changed is that the spy tech
Speaker 1: has gotten so small that you can just like tie
Speaker 1: it to a balloon and launch that and it's just
Speaker 1: as good as the ship that you can launch in
Speaker 1: a satellite. Like, it's gotten so tiny the balloons work.
Speaker 1: And the thing that a balloon can do, at least
Speaker 1: these types of balloons is they can just stay stationary,
Speaker 1: whereas a satellite you need multiple passes from different satellites
Speaker 1: to get like multiple looks, whereas this one can just
Speaker 1: like kind of hover. So does this not show up
Speaker 1: on radar? And like, since you can, since civilians can
Speaker 1: see it from the ground, it seems like you could
Speaker 1: take the ship out with the BB gun. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why this is more threatening than something else. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's It does make you wonder why they are using
Speaker 1: the same technology that Winnie the Poo used to steal honey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like if I saw that, I would be like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I got my songe on me. You're good, get somebody else.
Speaker 1: You just just turn to Micael, you could you you
Speaker 1: could just call me like, I know you're know you're listening,
Speaker 1: Like if you want to talk, if you want to talk,
Speaker 1: just come just hit me up. Does does not feel
Speaker 1: like this story is getting too big for what it
Speaker 1: actually It just feels like people are like pointing to
Speaker 1: this as like some sign of something like some encroaching something.
Speaker 1: And I don't feel fear about this, So I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if I'm being foolish or if they are. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not scared of it, you know what one of the
Speaker 1: a quote that I've been really dwelling on recently is
Speaker 1: that is that prisons exist, so you don't think everywhere
Speaker 1: else is a prison. And I think that's what this is.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like this is like, if
Speaker 1: you see the balloon, you'll think there aren't little tiny
Speaker 1: balloons everywhere. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like being in a
Speaker 1: panopticon prison and then a guard comes and looks you
Speaker 1: in the face like, Okay, I know I'm already being
Speaker 1: looked at. What do you Yeah, that's the spy. We're
Speaker 1: not spying on you with your phone. Yeah, everywhere that
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah. Yeah. There's also the USA isn't shooting
Speaker 1: the balloon down because of potential falling debris, which I
Speaker 1: don't if you've ever cared about falling debris. That that's
Speaker 1: the That was the part where I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: something is going on here that then we're not we're
Speaker 1: not even talking about a game, We're talking about a debris. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like they wanted to be a hey example of
Speaker 1: like China's impending like doom over it, but it feels
Speaker 1: but that's such a that's so fucked up. I feel
Speaker 1: like if there was something that scary, like that that's happening.
Speaker 1: It probably is happening, and they aren't telling us about it,
Speaker 1: like we're not that stupid. It also feels like they're
Speaker 1: making up an excuse why they're not shooting it down,
Speaker 1: because like the truth is, they just don't want to
Speaker 1: piss off China. They're just like, Yeah, that guy staring
Speaker 1: at me menacingly. I'd go tell him to funk off,
Speaker 1: but I'm worried a fight wood ensue and i might
Speaker 1: push him over so hard that he'd fall down on somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're doing the same thing. You know.
Speaker 1: The Communist Party was like, okay, now that is ours,
Speaker 1: I will say that, but it's not. It's the citizens airship,
Speaker 1: that's all it is. It's like, come on, y'all. Everyone's
Speaker 1: lying and it's like we're in this play and no
Speaker 1: one's believing anyone. We're all terrible scene actors or scene
Speaker 1: partners together. This is fucking this is infuriating. They're like,
Speaker 1: it blew off course, But then it's just like sitting there,
Speaker 1: like being controlled by something just hovering over Bozeman, like,
Speaker 1: how did you blow off course from China? Yeah? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just testing the weather. Isn't there a second one
Speaker 1: up in Canada right now? I know this one blew
Speaker 1: in from Canada, but I thought there was like a
Speaker 1: second one that the Canadian government was monitoring as well,
Speaker 1: like in their territory from Canada. And boy and my
Speaker 1: flaps tired the ball. But I mean, that's the thing
Speaker 1: that we've been hearing that China and the US are
Speaker 1: like spying on each other with like mobile phone networks
Speaker 1: in in the Caribbean that surveile US mobile phone Subscribersen
Speaker 1: America was writing about how they were stepping up surveillance
Speaker 1: of the South China Sea because growing fear that China
Speaker 1: will try and you know, take full control. So it's
Speaker 1: just a bunch of yeah, as as it's like an
Speaker 1: open secret that both countries are spying on each other.
Speaker 1: So so let me ask you this, Jack, you being
Speaker 1: super into UFOs and all that, Yeah, the wild orbs
Speaker 1: that we were seeing just defy physics and and all that.
Speaker 1: Do you think yeah, yeah, yeah, do you think there's
Speaker 1: a slight possibility that balloons? Yeah, well not necessarily balloons,
Speaker 1: But that's I guess That's what I'm saying, is like
Speaker 1: that seems like the freakier you know story, like the
Speaker 1: scarier potentially maybe things like this thing works in a
Speaker 1: way that we don't know and we have no idea
Speaker 1: what it is or where it is or how it
Speaker 1: works or anything. And and this thing is like we
Speaker 1: know who it is we and it's floating right here.
Speaker 1: You can look at it right now, and it feels
Speaker 1: like more of like a kind of like a band
Speaker 1: aid for like, I know, there's a lot of accistential
Speaker 1: fears out there right now, So let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: float this little balloon boy out there and let you
Speaker 1: guys worry about that like a fear you can you
Speaker 1: can recognize, Man, we do go crazy over balloons, don't we.
Speaker 1: Doom boys story that was like crazy people want nuts
Speaker 1: for that, you know, was that when the kid was
Speaker 1: like up there, like it was Moody's point is that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he he was just like hiding at his dad's house
Speaker 1: or okay, But yet none of it really scares me.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is because like if the technologies is
Speaker 1: advanced as they say it is, the scary version of
Speaker 1: that is like the second you get this super advanced technology,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna take everyone out because they have that.
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of how the like military industrial complex
Speaker 1: tells us to think about the world. And like so
Speaker 1: every time I see advanced technology like that, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: whoever has this has the ability to like just funk
Speaker 1: us up dramatically embarrassingly like quickly, and they're not so
Speaker 1: like there. It just makes me think that there might
Speaker 1: be something, some more hopeful version of things than the
Speaker 1: extremely depressing one that we get from the military industrial complex,
Speaker 1: which is that we need to spend you know, billions
Speaker 1: and trillions of dollars on weapons or else were fucked
Speaker 1: because whoever has the best weapons is automatically gonna just
Speaker 1: like try and kill you the second they have better
Speaker 1: weapons than you. That makes sense. Like this really this
Speaker 1: story feels like it re certifies that for me, because
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're talking about like just some wild
Speaker 1: tic tac floating thing that defies everything we know about
Speaker 1: physics and science and then a balloon that's kind of stuck,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, um, I just feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, the ladder is a thing that you know,
Speaker 1: it makes me not scared of of the technology that's
Speaker 1: out there at all in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: Because it's if this is the best they can offer,
Speaker 1: then ship, I'm I'm good. I mean at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm gonna kill myself, Like what do you
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to be scared of? Like what
Speaker 1: do you what do you want me to be away?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't care this high food, those corn
Speaker 1: serrup was gonna take me out, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't need to be worried about some balloon, Right,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna give me. It'll just was like statistically, it's
Speaker 1: gonna just be a guy. So like what am I
Speaker 1: worried about a balloon for? You know, I'm a black
Speaker 1: dude just being outside? Like what am I worried about
Speaker 1: China for? I'm here? Yeah. Also to your point that
Speaker 1: like why is this suddenly a major news story? A
Speaker 1: bunch of balloons were spotted spying on the US and
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, you might remember that is not a thing
Speaker 1: that happened in the media, Like nobody in the media
Speaker 1: was covering that ship. That was because they were launched
Speaker 1: by the US military. Part of a surveillance has to
Speaker 1: spy on Americans in order to locate and detern narcotic
Speaker 1: trafficking and homeland security threats. So yeah, they're allowing this
Speaker 1: to be a story, and did it didn't allow to
Speaker 1: be a story. So we do everything but the right thing.
Speaker 1: Oh everything, But no, that's not that's not fun, you know,
Speaker 1: care and whatnot. Let's just let's just put balloons in
Speaker 1: the sky and deter drugs, which are fun, deter people
Speaker 1: from having their fun. Let's take the fun thing, a
Speaker 1: balloon and use it in the least fun the most
Speaker 1: fun deterrent way possible. Right, that's what that's fun. Up.
Speaker 1: They use balloons, which are also fun to stop ship.
Speaker 1: That's also fun. Fun, they're more fun. They're they're they're whimsical.
Speaker 1: They're almost like there's a majesty about them. And they
Speaker 1: just use it for drone surveillance. Like like, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have like a skywalking penny farthing next that
Speaker 1: just like comes across the sky chees lasers that what
Speaker 1: do you as a thought, that's like rule controversial ship. Damn,
Speaker 1: bro could be using that ship for travel. We could
Speaker 1: be getting around in airships and whatnot. Right, bring, I
Speaker 1: think we got that America together. It's just Zeppela do
Speaker 1: you know the Goodyear blimp is just full of helium?
Speaker 1: Is it really? Yeah, that's just a helium balloon up there.
Speaker 1: So we just learned nothing. Yeah, wow, I want to
Speaker 1: do that. Take me up all right? You truly a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you as always on the show. It's been
Speaker 1: a great time. Man. Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff? I'm at you do on everything.
Speaker 1: I think it's you do underscore on Twitter. I'm also,
Speaker 1: I mean hopefully going to be bouncing off social media
Speaker 1: soon enough with this Twitter fiasco. But I got a
Speaker 1: podcast called Jaded for him that I would love for
Speaker 1: people to check out. We talked about a lot of
Speaker 1: this ship. I'm I was just talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: get into granular ship and I feel like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: it's a good time. Don't check it out. Is there
Speaker 1: a work of media that you've been enjoying. I guess
Speaker 1: I've I've had. I've had. It's a music thing. I've
Speaker 1: had Herbie Hancock's album Sunlight on repeat the past week
Speaker 1: or so. Got it on vinyl or you just you're
Speaker 1: listening to it on a streaming. I'm just on I'm
Speaker 1: just on streaming. I picked up the base again. So
Speaker 1: I've just been like, there you go. It's all Vinyl
Speaker 1: is a hard way to you know, reset and learn
Speaker 1: ship justin where can people fund you? Is their working
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yeah, thanks, it's it's been really
Speaker 1: fun and you know, dipping a toe out there into
Speaker 1: the into the public world. You guys can find me
Speaker 1: at j con the Smith on Instagram. I am not
Speaker 1: on Twitter or anywhere else. I debated on whether you've
Speaker 1: been telling you guys where to find me, but you know,
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable with with this cruise that gang has,
Speaker 1: uh seems like the least toxic fan base you could
Speaker 1: be a part of. So yeah, you guys can hit
Speaker 1: me up there. I I promise you I'm not kidding
Speaker 1: when I say I barely dipped that all into the
Speaker 1: into the messy waters of social media. I think I've
Speaker 1: accepted less than a hundred followers, and my account was private.
Speaker 1: I'm making it public today. You guys can look at
Speaker 1: pictures of my dog and uh, just traveling around l Yeah,
Speaker 1: lions the Goddess and yeah, hit me up if you
Speaker 1: guys want to talk about any nerds ship or just
Speaker 1: you know, have have someone to you know, bounce an
Speaker 1: idea off over two. I love art, I love tattoos,
Speaker 1: I love sneaker culture, love all that ship. Um So
Speaker 1: that is again at Jacon the Smith J c oh
Speaker 1: in t H E S M I t H on
Speaker 1: Instagram and I do have a worker media. I've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: I've been getting really into like buying jewelry and stuff lately,
Speaker 1: Like my grandma gifted me a few for old like
Speaker 1: gold rings and necklaces and stuff, and it kind of
Speaker 1: sparked this joy in me. Um My uncle also rest
Speaker 1: in peace, Uncle Tony. He owned a jewelry store in Chicago.
Speaker 1: And there's this goldsmith that goes by the name of
Speaker 1: Castro Smith on Instagram as someone most beautiful custom pieces
Speaker 1: you will ever see. He uses rare materials, he uses
Speaker 1: all types of minerals, gold, rubies, emeralds, and they just
Speaker 1: look amazing. They're one just pure works of art and
Speaker 1: um soh yeah, that's Castro Smith on Instagram and uh
Speaker 1: you can find him there. All right, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: old fashion and go a couple of tweets I've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I didn't even that this was the tweet
Speaker 1: section I had another Okay, you want to give us
Speaker 1: a tweet? I I don't say tweets anymore because yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got confused. But uh, I have a it's a TikTok.
Speaker 1: It's more there's visual to it. But like, just know
Speaker 1: this man is watching a muckbum video and his friend
Speaker 1: walks in. That's okay, I'm trying. He's trying to what
Speaker 1: and I'm good, all right, what are you watching? That's
Speaker 1: what you're doing? Is this bite? Right? That's what I like.
Speaker 1: That's what I like. What I was summing it out.
Speaker 1: Let me see that's from uh shoddy? What makes you TikTok?
Speaker 1: I believes the account. Oh that's good. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: This tweet is from Cool Math Game Underscore, and I'm
Speaker 1: calling it out because I want to hear you guys thoughts.
Speaker 1: As you know, comic book fans efficientados Corey Cool Math
Speaker 1: Games tweeted Spider Man would be useless in a small town,
Speaker 1: no buildings to swing from. He would just be a
Speaker 1: regular guy at that point. Has anybody tried to do that?
Speaker 1: Has anyone done the Spider Man in Smallville type ship?
Speaker 1: I think so, But that's also completely false. I mean
Speaker 1: he's got super he's got super strength, super agility, he
Speaker 1: can sense things before it's gonna happen. Just because he's
Speaker 1: like on skyscrapers doesn't mean being you know, two stories
Speaker 1: up above everyone else is going to be kind of helpful.
Speaker 1: You got the high ground. We know that's helpful from
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I don't I don't see this being I
Speaker 1: don't see him taking els in a small town. Yeah, Glory,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, Yes, stupid, he can. He can
Speaker 1: web other ship. Yeah, bro, he can just grab you
Speaker 1: up into onto the side of a sucking bus. Stop,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Yeah, he can sling himself like locomotion
Speaker 1: might be a different a different story, but like combat,
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a wrap. He's good. Sophia ben
Speaker 1: Wan tweeted, I'm gonna say something that might be fucked
Speaker 1: up to fifty should be divisible by three. And I
Speaker 1: just agree with that fifty to be divisible by three.
Speaker 1: The fact that it isn't as a fucking travesty. It's
Speaker 1: but man, man, what the fuck? No bro? What now?
Speaker 1: It's huh should be right? No, man, this is some
Speaker 1: like this is some uh Terrence Howard Matt Right, this
Speaker 1: is this is the new This is the new math
Speaker 1: one plus one actually equals four. No, bro, all right?
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
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Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnote We link off to the
Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
Speaker 1: as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super
Speaker 1: producer Joe, what is the song that you think people
Speaker 1: might enjoy? If you want to feel like you're sea
Speaker 1: walking through lavender Town and the original Pokemon Yellow on
Speaker 1: my nineties Bredren know what I'm talking about? Throw on
Speaker 1: this song, bro, This this ship is so good. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is Floating by Schoolboy Q and twenty one Savage.
Speaker 1: The beat is so fire. It reminds me of that
Speaker 1: you're going through a little ghost town and Pokemon and
Speaker 1: and you just you just see walking on all the
Speaker 1: host Uh. So you can find that in the footnotes.
Speaker 1: That's Floating by school Board Q and twenty one Savage
Speaker 1: an album. Uh yeah, it's off, It's off crash talk,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I mean there's even a little reference that
Speaker 1: I think. Uh, how's it go? Uh swag on mascot
Speaker 1: in the legs. Bitch, I'm floating might turn into a
Speaker 1: ghost punk bitch, Yes, I'm floating. Goddamn, this song is
Speaker 1: so good. Turn that ship on. You're gonna have yourself
Speaker 1: a good Monday, I promise. Alright, Well, the Daily zey guys,
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