Speaker 1: What's that.
Speaker 2: Bed spooky Joky, I'm really sure it's dead.
Speaker 3: He's coming this way. Wait a minute, I said, I
Speaker 3: not Nanda's plase.
Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez,
Speaker 2: the podcast where I talk to celebrities, comedians, even you,
Speaker 2: all kinds of people that I like about the paranormal.
Speaker 2: I would like to wish you a very spooky, happy Halloween.
Speaker 2: Can you believe it? It is the most wonderful time
Speaker 2: of year, and I hope you have such a lovely
Speaker 2: Halloween this year. I know that I am because this
Speaker 2: TV show I'm on is now out. You can binge away.
Speaker 2: The show is called Living for the Dead. It is
Speaker 2: on Hulu. It's on Disney Plus. I don't know every
Speaker 2: single country where. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: Wherever you live.
Speaker 2: If it's not in America, you can find it. Don't worry,
Speaker 2: just you know, hop on Google or whatever. But I
Speaker 2: promise you I want you to see the show. I
Speaker 2: want you to love it. The show is so spectacular
Speaker 2: and I get to be joined today by the two
Speaker 2: people that originally created the concept of this show. They
Speaker 2: also are the executive producers.
Speaker 3: It's C. J.
Speaker 2: Romero and his best friend Kristin Stuart.
Speaker 3: I mean, can you believe this?
Speaker 2: I know Kristin Stewart. Now it's I don't know what
Speaker 2: my life is. It's been a wild ride. But here
Speaker 2: we are, and we're gonna be talking about their paranor experiences.
Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about the TV show. We've
Speaker 2: done it all month. It's been five weeks of talking
Speaker 2: about the TV show. If you haven't yet, go back
Speaker 2: and listen to the last four episodes with the other
Speaker 2: hosts of the TV show, and yeah, are you liking it?
Speaker 2: Are you enjoying the show? Please make sure you're telling
Speaker 2: your friends about it, posting about it, you know, giving
Speaker 2: it good ratings, if there's a place where you can
Speaker 2: do that, trying to spread.
Speaker 3: The word about it.
Speaker 2: I wanted to just briefly tell you, if you haven't
Speaker 2: yet watched about some of the episodes.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So the first one is the one at the Clown Motel,
Speaker 2: which is a clown themed motel that is right next
Speaker 2: door to a cemetery in Tona, paw Nevada, which was
Speaker 2: really far out there and absolutely terrifying. Now I love clowns,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. I was a clown as a child.
Speaker 2: My father is a professional clown. Yes, I'm an Nepo baby.
Speaker 3: I love it. But then you add ghosts.
Speaker 2: And sinister, dark vibes cemetery next door terrifying anyway. Then
Speaker 2: after that we go to a place called the Copper
Speaker 2: Queen in Bisbee, Arizona. This is the place that we
Speaker 2: stayed at. We'll talk about it today on the episode
Speaker 2: we've been talking about it. Oh my god, it was
Speaker 2: such a scary experience for all of us that were there.
Speaker 2: It is an old historic building, a hotel in a
Speaker 2: mining town where there's just been so many deaths over
Speaker 2: the years and very very dark vibes, and the people
Speaker 2: that work there are just NonStop dealing with it, and
Speaker 2: so did we. After that, we went to Scottsdale, Arizona,
Speaker 2: and this was a home investigation. This was a private investigation.
Speaker 2: A woman was dealing with a presence in her mansion
Speaker 2: to the point where she wasn't even gonna live in
Speaker 2: the mansion. She actually was living in the guest house.
Speaker 2: She didn't want to go in the mansion because it
Speaker 2: was so bad. And that one some astonishing things happen
Speaker 2: on You have to check that one out. After that,
Speaker 2: we went to a very famous haunted place called the
Speaker 2: Waverly Hills Sanatorium, which is an old hospital tuberculosis sanatorium.
Speaker 2: It's one of those places that Honey she has been
Speaker 2: on every list, every TV show, the most haunted place
Speaker 2: in the entire world, many would say, did not disappoint. Actually,
Speaker 2: when we were there a time when we weren't even filming,
Speaker 2: there was somebody behind me moving around and I was like,
Speaker 2: who is that over there? And I was with the
Speaker 2: executive producer showrunner Elaine She's like, just so you know,
Speaker 2: that's the body shoot over there.
Speaker 3: There's no humans that are over there.
Speaker 2: It was so creepy. I also saw a ghost at
Speaker 2: that place. Then we went to a gorgeous theater called
Speaker 2: the Palace Theater, which was also in Louisville, Kentucky, same
Speaker 2: place as Waverley Hills Sanatorium.
Speaker 3: I love Louisville.
Speaker 2: That place wow, beautiful, so beautiful. The people that work
Speaker 2: there are like a family together. They lost somebody in
Speaker 2: their family that worked there, and we were able to
Speaker 2: make contact with him. It was so beautiful, magical, magical, magical. Also,
Speaker 2: you know how there's these places always have like the
Speaker 2: famous ghost that's been the ghost for years. Well, we
Speaker 2: actually connected with the famous ghost's grandson and went on
Speaker 2: the investigation to try to connect them.
Speaker 3: It was really something. Then another one we went to
Speaker 3: was a strip club in Las Vegas. Personally, if you ask.
Speaker 2: Me, this is my favorite episode. I just felt so
Speaker 2: empowered after this episode. The women that worked in this club,
Speaker 2: the Palamino, they were incredible human beings. And I just
Speaker 2: had a couple of moments that I will never forget
Speaker 2: when I was doing this investigation.
Speaker 3: There's also a.
Speaker 2: Moment that might be a little controversial that happened with
Speaker 2: a spirit box and a name that the spirit box
Speaker 2: called me.
Speaker 3: You'll have to see for yourself. Then after that.
Speaker 2: We went to a freezing cold former funeral home that
Speaker 2: was completely falling apart called the House of Wills in Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 2: And wow, very very scary place. I mean, probably thousands
Speaker 2: of dead bodies have been in and out of that building,
Speaker 2: so many different things within history that would contribute to
Speaker 2: it being haunted, And yeah, I would be so happy
Speaker 2: never going.
Speaker 3: Back to that building.
Speaker 2: Then the final one was the Lamp Mansion, which is
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis. Beautiful place, beautiful family that owns it,
Speaker 2: and I got physically ill from a ghost I believe
Speaker 2: in that place. I personally saw, I believe a shadow
Speaker 2: figure type ghost in that building. It ended up being
Speaker 2: a really beautiful investigation that had some queer elements to
Speaker 2: it in terms of the spirit. You know a lot
Speaker 2: of people that haven't seen the show yet think, oh,
Speaker 2: is it just queer ghosts? Well, that's a little complicated
Speaker 2: because you know, historically we people didn't always use those words.
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to label somebody as queer or
Speaker 2: gay or trans or whatever if they never themselves said it.
Speaker 2: But in our research and from talking to a man
Speaker 2: that literally wrote the book on this location, a lot
Speaker 2: of things led us to believe that one of the
Speaker 2: ghosts there lived a queer life, whatever that might mean.
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful time, very scary.
Speaker 3: Though, anyway. Okay, so go check it out. If you're
Speaker 3: not sold yet.
Speaker 2: Just wait till you hear this conversation today with the
Speaker 2: executive producers of Living for the Dead currently on Hulu,
Speaker 2: Kristen Stewart and c J.
Speaker 3: Romero, on with the show. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: This whole month, I have been talking about the new
Speaker 2: TV show that I am honored to be a part of,
Speaker 2: called Living for the Dead. And I've talked to Juju've
Speaker 2: talked to Alex, I've talked to Logan, I've talked to
Speaker 2: the other one Ken Ken, and now I get to
Speaker 2: talk to the creators of the show, CJ Romero and
Speaker 2: Kristen Stewart.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hi, CJ has never done a podcast. Kristin, I feel
Speaker 2: like I haven't heard you on many podcasts.
Speaker 3: I'm very honored that you've done this. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I haven't done so many podcasts.
Speaker 5: You're right, I've only done like podcasts with journalists and
Speaker 5: film writers.
Speaker 2: I felt like shade that poet, like I only do
Speaker 2: it with professionals.
Speaker 5: Oh really meant that I was shading the professionals, which
Speaker 5: I completely am.
Speaker 1: I much rather hang out with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am a ghost journalist and I really covered
Speaker 2: the important news that happens in this world.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I have at over the years many times googled celebrities
Speaker 2: with ghost stories as I look for guests to have
Speaker 2: on the show, and I feel like, Christen, you've You've
Speaker 2: made yourself on a lot of these lists like people have.
Speaker 2: People have always included you talking about your ghost stories.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. I know that.
Speaker 5: I definitely I guess I have. I have them, so
Speaker 5: that makes sense. People ask me a lot of questions.
Speaker 4: Well, we tell we tell people everyone we know, like
Speaker 4: any opportunity we have. We're like, we have ghost stories.
Speaker 4: So maybe it comes from that.
Speaker 2: Case anyone's interested, we do have ghost stories. Well, the
Speaker 2: two of your best friends in real life. And first
Speaker 2: of all, how did you guys come up with this
Speaker 2: idea for this TV show?
Speaker 4: Do you want to start and I'll pick up? Or
Speaker 4: do you want me to start and you can pick up?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, cute? Okay, you can pick up. I'll start.
Speaker 1: Basically, it was completely CJ's idea.
Speaker 5: We were having like brunch and I wasn't like keyed
Speaker 5: into the conversation he was having, and I overheard him
Speaker 5: talking about like like a gay ghost hunting reality show
Speaker 5: and I was like, wait, what what is that? Like
Speaker 5: that's the best? Say like when can we see that?
Speaker 5: And he's like no, I'm saying like it would be
Speaker 5: cool if we did that. I screamed like an old
Speaker 5: queen and when holy shit, that's like the coolest, funniest
Speaker 5: I could like pictured immediately, and then we fucking found
Speaker 5: the right partners and like made it happen, which is
Speaker 5: not something that either of us have ever done before.
Speaker 1: So we are like, yeah, very I'm very proud of
Speaker 1: my boy.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you.
Speaker 3: Were you watching a lot of these shows already? Cjay.
Speaker 4: Yes. When I was younger, I was so into like
Speaker 4: ghost Hunters, ghost Adventures, all of those, and I just
Speaker 4: wasn't seeing anyone that was like me, and I was
Speaker 4: like picturing, like how fun would it be to do it?
Speaker 4: Like the original concept was like I would go into
Speaker 4: these fonded locations and like as far as like being
Speaker 4: an expert, I am not an expert, like I'll just
Speaker 4: fully like own that, but I'm such like a fan
Speaker 4: of the genre, and I was like, I want to
Speaker 4: like go and like crawling these like creepy addicts and
Speaker 4: like find ghosts and then ultimately like run out of
Speaker 4: the building screaming because as you know, Raz, we've been
Speaker 4: on a couple of ghost hens together. I am a
Speaker 4: whisky putscat like and that's exactly what I when I
Speaker 4: had pictured of the show, and it involved into something
Speaker 4: like stronger and more beautiful and like something I'm so
Speaker 4: proud of.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Anytime people are doing something different with the genre or
Speaker 2: just anything paranormal doing it differently. And I know that
Speaker 2: there have been shows where they're hosted by people that
Speaker 2: don't necessarily work in that field or you know, have
Speaker 2: a lot of experience with it, and I enjoy those
Speaker 2: and I think they're fun.
Speaker 3: But you guys found.
Speaker 2: Some pros like these people. Tell me about that process.
Speaker 2: Where did you find these people?
Speaker 4: Where do we find you? It was really interesting, Christad.
Speaker 4: We posted like casting on my Instagram and Kristin did
Speaker 4: a video and it kind of just went everywhere. And
Speaker 4: now was I think the first moment when we realized like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, it's not just me in my mind that
Speaker 4: wants to watch this show. There's a need for this
Speaker 4: show out there. We got like over like twelve hundred
Speaker 4: submissions something like that.
Speaker 5: I think we got more, baby, I think we got like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, like a lot, six, a lot, I
Speaker 5: don't know, a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The casting process was the most important part because we
Speaker 5: had kind of a general idea for like archetypes, but
Speaker 5: then in actually meeting human beings that were going to
Speaker 5: lead us through this, it was like, oh wow, the
Speaker 5: show got a sort of like air of seriousness while
Speaker 5: still retaining the obvious like sort of levity that a
Speaker 5: bunch of queers bring to a scary situation because obviously
Speaker 5: we traversed some treacherous lines in real life. So I
Speaker 5: just was like, okay, so it's so much more than
Speaker 5: aloell actually, and you ros honestly like thank god you
Speaker 5: were there too, because when things do get like to sticky,
Speaker 5: do you use humor like to diffuse all sort of
Speaker 5: discomfort in your life because you're fucking talented at it?
Speaker 2: So true they you, well, you know, I have had
Speaker 2: conversations with people a lot about it being a defense mechanism,
Speaker 2: and I've known people that are comedians that would say
Speaker 2: that that's how it is for them, and I think
Speaker 2: it is to an extent for myself.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just always think that there's something funny in everything
Speaker 2: if you let there be. And I've seen it happen
Speaker 2: in some tough situations in my life where it's like,
Speaker 2: there is funny here, and even if it's just for
Speaker 2: a moment to just kind of like not get super
Speaker 2: overwhelmed by fear or sadness or whatever, just to put
Speaker 2: a little just like a quick little breather where you
Speaker 2: can just calm that down for a second and then
Speaker 2: get back to the sadness or scariness or whatever. To me,
Speaker 2: it helps, and I love doing it.
Speaker 4: I think that's what makes this show relatable. When watching it,
Speaker 4: it'll be like getting so serious and then we can
Speaker 4: just cut to.
Speaker 1: You and you like just know how to like comfort us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, comfort us, because when you are scared as a human,
Speaker 4: you're like you can't like stop laughing, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, because here's the thing. I'm the only normal one
Speaker 2: on this show. Okay, there's we got three people with
Speaker 2: magic powers and then we got the other person that
Speaker 2: literally sleeps in coffins for fun. I'm the only one
Speaker 2: that's a normal human being that gets terrified in these situations.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, CJ and I are very similar. When
Speaker 2: CJ said that he wanted to see someone like him
Speaker 2: on TV, you got your wish, babe, because both of
Speaker 2: us were scaredy cats. Because CJ was on the road
Speaker 2: with us when we were out there shooting.
Speaker 3: And CJ, should we tell a story?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, Kristin you've heard our stories, but just
Speaker 2: for the listeners real quick, I'm I've never been more
Speaker 2: jealous than anyone than you Christ and Stewart for not
Speaker 2: having to go to the Copper Queen Hotel in Bisbee, Arizona,
Speaker 2: my favorite town in the world. Like, honestly, I'm obsessed
Speaker 2: with that town. I've been looking for houses. However, this
Speaker 2: hotel was hell on Earth, and c J and I
Speaker 2: had a real rough time.
Speaker 4: It was so rough that we literally you wouldn't let
Speaker 4: me leave your side until the sun came up.
Speaker 3: Well because everyone else was going to sleep.
Speaker 2: Everyone else was totally just Alex was starting a relationship
Speaker 2: with a ghost. It seemed like at least a friendship
Speaker 2: or something. They were best friends. Julia, Yeah, Julia the ghost.
Speaker 5: What is it about the sun coming up? It really
Speaker 5: does just diffuse all illusion.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh im good now, okay bye? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like I really needed you.
Speaker 5: We were coiled around each other, but then like as
Speaker 5: soon as the sun comes up, you're like, okay, see yeah,
Speaker 5: all right, bye, yeah, thanks for everything.
Speaker 2: Well, so long story short, Basically, this one night we
Speaker 2: had already had some tearrrifying stuff happening during the investigation,
Speaker 2: and the night is over, I'm like, there's no way
Speaker 2: I'm going to bed. CJ is staying up to We're
Speaker 2: hanging out downstairs with some crew members in the lobby,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, a coffee pod like a
Speaker 2: c rig little thingy, which were in all of the rooms,
Speaker 2: flew down the stairs. Somebody threw it down the stairs,
Speaker 2: and we made the men go up there to go
Speaker 2: look around and see if there was anyone, and they
Speaker 2: said there was nobody. And it came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: And I grabbed a lot of people by the shirt
Speaker 2: collars that whole week and I said, tell me, was
Speaker 2: it you? And they were all like, no, it wasn't
Speaker 2: stop And I was like, was it you? It wasn't anybody.
Speaker 2: It was very scary. I've never seen something get thrown
Speaker 2: by a ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that to me was the scariest because we all
Speaker 4: had an agreement to like at the beginning of filming,
Speaker 4: like a no messing around, like no pranks, like we're
Speaker 4: filming a ghost show, like let's not through with each
Speaker 4: other like that, especially with like cast. And then furthermore,
Speaker 4: if you do, just like come clean about it, like
Speaker 4: no hard feelings. And I think we filmed that fourth
Speaker 4: and I think every episode after that we were filming.
Speaker 4: I would ask like, so was it you that there's
Speaker 4: a coffee pot? And no one ever fessed up to
Speaker 4: the coffee.
Speaker 5: Pot, So when you told me this story, I thought
Speaker 5: you said coffee popped.
Speaker 1: And it has really changed.
Speaker 5: The little pitty pod that like yo yoed down the
Speaker 5: fucking stairs. I pictured like a crashing coffee pot, like
Speaker 5: like shattering.
Speaker 1: And so it's still scary for sure, but it was
Speaker 1: more dramatic.
Speaker 2: That would be better, You're right, professional storyteller Kristen Stewart.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately it was a pod. It was just a
Speaker 2: little one. But CJ and I were looking at the
Speaker 2: staircase when it happened, and both of us like turned
Speaker 2: to each other and I was like, I was so scared.
Speaker 4: Well, and the thing is too. It didn't just like
Speaker 4: fall down the stairs. It was chucked with like force.
Speaker 4: It was an angry spirit or person that through this thing.
Speaker 4: It was like boom, it hit the wall.
Speaker 2: And it like you know, kept going like it like
Speaker 2: slid on the ground and stuff. And I saw the
Speaker 2: whole thing and everyone was like what was that? And
Speaker 2: I was like, what little coffee pod thingy? And that's
Speaker 2: the same night that I told this story well, Ken
Speaker 2: and I told this story, But basically CJ and I
Speaker 2: were terrified. We locked ourselves in a room because we
Speaker 2: also heard something walking behind us through the hallways, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, we heard Ken roaming the
Speaker 2: hallways calling for us in a very creepy manner.
Speaker 4: I was about to leave your room to go to mind.
Speaker 4: You had kind of calmed down. It was like three
Speaker 4: in the morning.
Speaker 3: You finally got me.
Speaker 4: I finally like tucked you in and like braided your hair,
Speaker 4: and you were finally ready to go to bed. And
Speaker 4: I'm like walking to the door and we hear CJ.
Speaker 3: You go. It said my name. It said my name.
Speaker 4: I ran into the shower and closed the shower curtain.
Speaker 1: Was he trying to scare you? Or like what did
Speaker 1: he need?
Speaker 2: He was so stressed out because he had a demon
Speaker 2: keeping him up or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know. These people.
Speaker 4: That place was the hardest, like just energetically when you
Speaker 4: walk in there and you're walking around the hallways. Like,
Speaker 4: if you want to be terrified, if you want to
Speaker 4: not sleep and meet a ghost, go to the Copper
Speaker 4: Queen in Bisbee, Arizona. I promise you you will not
Speaker 4: be disappointed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and stay on the haunted floor. I think it's
Speaker 2: the fourth the fourth floor. One more thing, CJ. At
Speaker 2: that place, can you tell the story about what you
Speaker 2: woke up to.
Speaker 3: In the middle of the night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was assaulted by a ghost in the room
Speaker 4: that like apparently there's like tugging on feet, tugging on
Speaker 4: hair and scratching in the middle of the night, like
Speaker 4: one in the morning. I woke up and I thought
Speaker 4: I had rolled over on my East cigarette and my
Speaker 4: East cigarette caught on fire, that's how badly my side
Speaker 4: was burning. And I woke up and there's just like
Speaker 4: scratches down the side of my back. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: That place really did a number on me. And then
Speaker 4: we ended up putting Juju in there por Juju whatever
Speaker 4: anything is like very terrible or scary, We're like, Juju.
Speaker 3: Can handle it, like totally.
Speaker 4: And then Juju got scratched, yeah, in her neck. Remember
Speaker 4: we were done filming for the day and she texted
Speaker 4: me and she was like, hey, I just got scratched,
Speaker 4: and we actually like turned the cameras back on and
Speaker 4: went up and filmed it. I don't think it makes
Speaker 4: the final cut, but I think that it is like
Speaker 4: bonus content that you'll see at some point.
Speaker 3: Neither of those incidents were met.
Speaker 2: By the way, my nails are. These are called coffin tips.
Speaker 2: They are flat at the bottom. They're not stilettos. And
Speaker 2: I was not leaving my room.
Speaker 4: Wait, really quick, are you going to tell what happens
Speaker 4: to me when I get really scared?
Speaker 3: That's on you.
Speaker 5: You're like, I'm not going to out you, dude, that
Speaker 5: shit is yours.
Speaker 4: I give you permissions. I think it'll be better coming
Speaker 4: from you.
Speaker 2: When CJ gets scared, he farts And I was willing
Speaker 2: to be locked in a room in cold air, so
Speaker 2: the windows weren't open.
Speaker 4: I'm so, I'm so sorry, but yeah, we were like
Speaker 4: sitting there waiting for the sun to come up because
Speaker 4: we were so terrified and I could not keep it in.
Speaker 3: You really couldn't.
Speaker 2: But it was still better than being alone totally. So
Speaker 2: I want to know kind of your beliefs in this stuff, Kristin.
Speaker 2: When did you start believing in this? Was it something
Speaker 2: from a young age or what.
Speaker 5: I don't know how well rounded my beliefs are, because
Speaker 5: because you just can't know, and that not knowing just
Speaker 5: scares me to the bone.
Speaker 1: Like I can't.
Speaker 5: Even if I was in like a newly built high
Speaker 5: rise condo, I'd be like, yeah, but if I thought
Speaker 5: about it hard enough, I could probably manifest something, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like I can't be left home alone.
Speaker 1: I now live in a house that's kind of old,
Speaker 1: and I don't.
Speaker 5: Know what the fuck I was thinking, because I just
Speaker 5: can't be here without being like, uh, And I talk
Speaker 5: to ghosts all the time. I'm always like, not me, dude, Honestly,
Speaker 5: I'm not the one. I will not be as satisfying. Actually,
Speaker 5: maybe I'm outing myself as being a very satisfying target,
Speaker 5: because like I'll be like begging ghosts to not play
Speaker 5: with me.
Speaker 2: But okay, now that's assuming that their ghosts that are
Speaker 2: from a long time ago. But like, say, if you're
Speaker 2: in a high rise condo and they're younger ghosts and
Speaker 2: you're Christen Stewart, I mean, don't you think that they're
Speaker 2: gonna want to meet you?
Speaker 1: They're like, we took the elevator and we're here.
Speaker 4: What uh uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really know how to speak to that.
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, I'm not the most approachable
Speaker 5: famous person, and so I feel like maybe I like
Speaker 5: really want I want to project that as much as
Speaker 5: I possibly can not because I'm antisocial, because I'm genuinely fearful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that fear of the unknown. I
Speaker 2: mean it can be fun, but I mean I always
Speaker 2: feel like if a ghost wants to find you, they'll
Speaker 2: find you. Yeah, someone didn't have to die there. You
Speaker 2: can find a ghost anywhere.
Speaker 5: I think that's why my preoccupation actually is like if
Speaker 5: we were to unpack this, like clearly I'm a little
Speaker 5: obsessed because like it is fun, I want it to
Speaker 5: be real. There's this like there's this like tapping in
Speaker 5: my plumbing and there's a drum on my second floor.
Speaker 1: There's like this little like box drum. And I was like, CJ.
Speaker 5: It was the first time I was alone in my
Speaker 5: house the other day, and I called him up and
Speaker 5: I was like, it's happening, Like it's immediate as soon
Speaker 5: as I'm alone in this house, Like I can hear
Speaker 5: the little drummer boy upstairs, dude. And then I realized
Speaker 5: it's probably because like I had just flushed the toilet.
Speaker 3: Do you know the history of this place that you're
Speaker 3: in now?
Speaker 5: No, I mean it's like a house that was built
Speaker 5: in the twenties and so it has one.
Speaker 2: I did some googling and it's actually where the Drummer
Speaker 2: Boy was found in nineteen twenty six.
Speaker 1: I don't want any of you motherfuckers to come to
Speaker 1: my house.
Speaker 5: You you can come, but any of the magical fucking
Speaker 5: you know, the witch and the medium and the psychic.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love you guys.
Speaker 5: Can we like go to dinner or something, because you
Speaker 5: come to my house and it's just gonna like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: she's just gonna bust the lid off everything and then
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to know about it and then I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Have to like deal with it, and I don't want to.
Speaker 3: That's the thing those psychics. It's like, just don't tell me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just don't even even if you're not one hundred
Speaker 2: percent sure, just keep your mouth shut.
Speaker 3: I don't want to know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Juju is the only one that I
Speaker 4: would want in my space, not like only when that
Speaker 4: sounds so mean, but like, is she to me?
Speaker 3: I'm like, right, wow, I'm right here.
Speaker 4: Out of the ones with superpow. I mean, look, I
Speaker 4: love them, mother, I'll walk come over to my house anytime.
Speaker 4: But I feel like Juju's the one that's like, all right,
Speaker 4: let's fucking get these ghosts out of here.
Speaker 5: Well, She'll come over and like move a few mirrors
Speaker 5: and like burn some stage and be like you're fuck off.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know who wouldn't listen to that? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Kristen, what was your first experience that you
Speaker 2: feel was like this probably was a.
Speaker 3: Ghost not plumbing.
Speaker 5: So my brother has actually like a terrifying ghost story
Speaker 5: that I was in the houseboard but don't have a
Speaker 5: literal memory of because I was very tiny, but I
Speaker 5: think it has informed like my basic and ever present
Speaker 5: fear of quote unquote ghosts, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 5: like whatever, energy.
Speaker 1: Spirit, blah blah. But he had this like little he called.
Speaker 5: Him Eggman, and he like ran screaming from rooms and
Speaker 5: they had to move out of this house, and like
Speaker 5: the picture that he described as horrible, like it's this
Speaker 5: little guy who floated around on an orb and like
Speaker 5: would take all of his toys and like throw them
Speaker 5: out of the crib. And then my brother would get
Speaker 5: in trouble for like making a mess in the room,
Speaker 5: and he was like I didn't do it. It was Eggman,
Speaker 5: and like Eggman had a smell and Eggman. One day,
Speaker 5: my brother like ran down the hall and was like
Speaker 5: squealing and my mom was like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: And he was like, Eggman came out of the room.
Speaker 5: He never does that, Like he like left the bedroom,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, this is the most terrifying fucking thing
Speaker 5: I've ever heard in my whole life.
Speaker 1: And so they moved out.
Speaker 3: Of the house because of egg Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because my brother was just like truly terrified.
Speaker 1: He couldn't hang like he had to get out of there.
Speaker 3: What did he smell?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: I don't know, LIKEJ was it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, seriously, And maybe I'm like filling in narrative blanks,
Speaker 5: but I feel like rotten egg Like I feel like
Speaker 5: it was like a putrid kind of like unsavory stench.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is something that CJ kept saying. I'm a guy,
Speaker 2: I think there's a ghost in here. Do you smell that?
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, do they smell rancid? And You're like, no,
Speaker 4: you just farted you ask me.
Speaker 5: But this is also like when people attribute bad luck
Speaker 5: to like having heard a song or something like my
Speaker 5: girlfriend is terrified of the song Hotel California. But I'm like, god,
Speaker 5: shit happens, you know what I mean? CJ farts kind
Speaker 5: of consistently.
Speaker 3: It happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not only when it's haunted. I will also fart
Speaker 4: when it's not haunted. That is true.
Speaker 5: Okay, So my first actual like ghost story which I
Speaker 5: will tell singularly and then open the floor to CJ
Speaker 5: because we also share one that really blew my head
Speaker 5: off and was.
Speaker 1: Like emotional and much more like less of.
Speaker 5: A scary situation and more of like a truly kind
Speaker 5: of spiritually transcendent one. But like I once woke up
Speaker 5: in a hotel in Regina my favorite.
Speaker 3: Excuse me ever, what did you just say?
Speaker 1: Woke up in Reginah.
Speaker 5: But there's this hotel that is very old, and I
Speaker 5: was like in this room with my mom. I was
Speaker 5: there making a movie and I was probably like fifteen.
Speaker 5: It was a movie about ghosts, So I don't know
Speaker 5: how obsessed I was at the time. Like everyone thought
Speaker 5: I made this up because they were like, you're so
Speaker 5: into the part, and I was like, trust me, I'm
Speaker 5: not into the part. Not like this, like not it's
Speaker 5: not We're like kind of like talking and about to
Speaker 5: go to sleep, and we had just turned the lights
Speaker 5: off and I had a cat with me, and I
Speaker 5: thought he was for sure like on the nightstand because
Speaker 5: this bottle of water had like been knocked over, and
Speaker 5: he was like kind of a savage, like he was
Speaker 5: just like had a lot of energy and would do
Speaker 5: shit like that.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh, Max, like chill, dude.
Speaker 5: And then I felt him at my feet, like sleeping,
Speaker 5: and so I was like, oh, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, I felt like my
Speaker 5: feet sort of like I felt like my legs had
Speaker 5: been kind of pushed down because they were up, like
Speaker 5: my knees were up because I was I was like
Speaker 5: genuinely not sleeping. And that was another thing that people
Speaker 5: tried to sort of debunk me on is that they
Speaker 5: were like, maybe.
Speaker 1: You were dreaming. I was like, dude, I wasn't even.
Speaker 5: Like laying fully down, and so like all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I was just sort of like straightened out, and so
Speaker 5: it made me open my eyes.
Speaker 1: And when I opened my eyes, it was a lady
Speaker 1: in Colonial guard. Like I felt like I was in
Speaker 1: like the fucking Bridesmaids. I was like, yeah, there's like
Speaker 1: alnial woman on the wing.
Speaker 5: I was like, there's a lady in old school clothes
Speaker 5: with like darkened features and rollers in her hair and
Speaker 5: sort of like looming over.
Speaker 1: My bed like as high as the top of the
Speaker 1: drapery stop.
Speaker 5: I couldn't make a sound for a very long time,
Speaker 5: just sort of went like I.
Speaker 1: Was just like reeling. And then finally when I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, and she just like didn't go away.
Speaker 5: Still, no, that's work, I know, and like my mom
Speaker 5: turned on the light and that's when it just like vanished,
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no.
Speaker 5: You could not fucking convince me that I did not
Speaker 5: see a ghost or whatever that means to whoever is listening.
Speaker 5: And so then we like called the front desk and
Speaker 5: we were like, hey, do you guys get like, I
Speaker 5: don't know people saying this stuff. And this woman, in
Speaker 5: a very Canadian way, was like, I'm sorry, no, we
Speaker 5: don't ever get that. Are you suggesting that there's a
Speaker 5: ghost in your room?
Speaker 1: And I was like, you, mother, that's gaslight, I know.
Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, I'm gonna come down there right now.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna drag your ass up here and you're gonna
Speaker 5: sleep in this room?
Speaker 3: Your mom saw it?
Speaker 1: No, not at all, I wish Oh yeah, wow.
Speaker 5: But that's pretty like Cannon I have like a real classic.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is good.
Speaker 4: I'm scared.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, CJ, have you ever woken up in Regina?
Speaker 4: I never woke it up in Regina. I can tell you.
Speaker 1: That CJ is a gold star.
Speaker 5: Never woke up in Regina, never won.
Speaker 4: I have zero plans to go to Regina.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. So you're like, I just woke
Speaker 1: up here. I don't even know when I got here.
Speaker 4: That's very funny.
Speaker 2: I haven't never been to Regina either. Okay, CJ tell
Speaker 2: us the good story.
Speaker 4: So this one involves both of us. I'll backtrack a
Speaker 4: little bit. I had a friend that knew Christine had
Speaker 4: introduced him to Kristin. He passed away in I think
Speaker 4: two thousand and sixt year twenty seventeen, very tragically and
Speaker 4: very like instantly. And I was living with Kristen at
Speaker 4: the time, and so when he passed away, I went
Speaker 4: and helped his friend move like the step out of
Speaker 4: the room that he had. And I had a box
Speaker 4: if I auld t shirt, a hat, like he was
Speaker 4: a hairstyletic, some hairclips, just a box of his belongings
Speaker 4: in Kristen's house and we had been talking for a
Speaker 4: while about how like I think Ryan's here, Like I
Speaker 4: just feel it, like I like Kristen was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know, I feel like I'm being watched. At night,
Speaker 4: glasses were just like popping and breaking out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: I even went on like a tender day with this guy.
Speaker 4: This is such a funny random part of the story.
Speaker 4: Who came over. I think Kristin was outtown filming. He
Speaker 4: came over and we were having drinks in the kitchen.
Speaker 4: He was like, is this home haunted the energy of
Speaker 4: like a man just walked behind you, like who was
Speaker 4: like twenty eight? And I was like, that's so weird
Speaker 4: that you say that, because my friend just passed away
Speaker 4: who was twenty eight years old. And I was like,
Speaker 4: are you like a medium or something like why did
Speaker 4: you not put this on your profile? And he is like,
Speaker 4: my aunts are both mediums and I like pick up
Speaker 4: on stuff all the time. And so that date ended
Speaker 4: very quickly, but that was also just confirming that Ryan
Speaker 4: was there. So cut to this night where we had
Speaker 4: some friends over and Kristin lives in a gated community,
Speaker 4: so the gate wasn't opening properly or something, and so
Speaker 4: I drove them down to the gate to help them
Speaker 4: get out of the property. So when I come back,
Speaker 4: it's just Kristin and our other friends sitting in the
Speaker 4: living room together. Basically, I came down the stairs and
Speaker 4: just kind of blacked out, and not like alcohol blackout,
Speaker 4: like it just something came over me. I'll let Kristin
Speaker 4: kind of take.
Speaker 3: Over from there, Cliffhanger.
Speaker 5: So me and this friend were actually in the living
Speaker 5: room that we talk about feeling Ryan in and we
Speaker 5: were talking about something totally nonrelated, and then notice that
Speaker 5: the lights were flickering, which is classic, but also they're
Speaker 5: on a dimmer, and it was just like all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, they just sort of lowered, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 5: that's fucking Ryan, I'm telling you, because like the dimmer,
Speaker 5: like the little physical thing that you need to dim
Speaker 5: the lights, was actually low. It wasn't like we had
Speaker 5: lost power. It's not like we had sort of like
Speaker 5: a little power search. Like the lights were fucking up
Speaker 5: and then they were down, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 5: that's Ryan, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Like it's whatever.
Speaker 5: She didn't know him, and so I was telling the
Speaker 5: story of him because we had just lost him. And
Speaker 5: so then CJ comes back from driving his friend to
Speaker 5: the gate and he's walking down the stairs and suddenly
Speaker 5: just stops and kind of I mean not to take
Speaker 5: a sort of like definitely profound and delicate scenario and
Speaker 5: make it funny, but he looked all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: like so truly possessed, and like I did think maybe
Speaker 5: he was having like a weird episode. Like I was like, bro, CJ, dude,
Speaker 5: and he just didn't hear a word I s said,
Speaker 5: and like turned toward this wall and just sort of
Speaker 5: walked like into it and then stopped and was like hey,
Speaker 5: whoa and then starts immediately like uncontrollably crying.
Speaker 4: Sobbing, Yeah, painful sobbing.
Speaker 5: Me and our friend like we walked over to him
Speaker 5: and like put hands on him and like held him,
Speaker 5: and we were like, dude, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I was worried. I was genuinely like I thought he
Speaker 1: was sick. I didn't.
Speaker 5: It was It's something that I've never seen any anyone
Speaker 5: else do. Yeah, And then he just said that he
Speaker 5: felt all of a sudden, like the immense sadness and
Speaker 5: lost not not of his but of Ryan's, Like he
Speaker 5: felt suddenly like.
Speaker 4: As if I was him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like he had lost the opportunity to hang out,
Speaker 5: He had lost the opportunity he shouldn't have left, Like
Speaker 5: he felt suddenly like this deep despair that could really
Speaker 5: only be had by somebody who wasn't able to like
Speaker 5: live among us anymore. And so that was just like
Speaker 5: it's like we didn't see a ghost, We just felt
Speaker 5: completely sort of walked into Yeah, And I did feel
Speaker 5: like he was there, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Oh, he wanted to hang out with you guys. You
Speaker 3: saw you were having a good time.
Speaker 4: He did, And that's so like on brand for him too.
Speaker 4: And it was weird because I had had a really
Speaker 4: hard time coping with his death because him and I
Speaker 4: weren't on the best terms when he passed away. And
Speaker 4: then after that experience, it was kind of like I
Speaker 4: was able to shed that and it was kind of
Speaker 4: like we got to have that moment and I just
Speaker 4: like God stopped crying too, like instantly, hawk crate, like
Speaker 4: I was just like what just happened? Like I think
Speaker 4: that was like the first thing I said when I
Speaker 4: stopped crying.
Speaker 5: It wasn't like you had a sort of empathetic feeling
Speaker 5: and then cried about it. It was like suddenly you
Speaker 5: were wrecked, sobbing, and then suddenly you weren't, and you
Speaker 5: were like what was that?
Speaker 1: And I was like, you fucking tell me, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I didn't know whoa.
Speaker 3: So did it all end at that moment or did
Speaker 3: he still hang around?
Speaker 5: I was just there this morning, actually because I moved
Speaker 5: out of that house, not because of this, but it's
Speaker 5: every time, and maybe it's just honestly, there's a version
Speaker 5: of a kind of non literal ghost story where like
Speaker 5: when I go into that space, that's what I think about,
Speaker 5: And there are ways that people live on in our bodies,
Speaker 5: like in a sort of physical memory sense, and like
Speaker 5: you know, in an odd ambiguous way, whether or not
Speaker 5: he is like haunting that space or his energy is
Speaker 5: or whatever. I don't ever ever go through that space
Speaker 5: and not think about him. And I do feel watched,
Speaker 5: I swear, because he was like such a fucking bro
Speaker 5: Like I'm always like getting out of the pool or
Speaker 5: something and straight up be like Ryan's fuck off, I'm
Speaker 5: changing you know what I mean, Like I feel it.
Speaker 2: Hmm, well, being like kind of scaredy cats a little bit,
Speaker 2: the two of you when it's somebody that you knew
Speaker 2: and loved. Is that a game changer? I mean I
Speaker 2: always talk about like for me because I've had loved
Speaker 2: ones that I feel like I've experienced as spirits, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's still kind of scary, Like I feel
Speaker 2: bad saying it, but it's still kind of scary to me,
Speaker 2: But I know a lot of people feel more comforted
Speaker 2: by that experience.
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you feel.
Speaker 4: I personally felt like for years, Like I remember my
Speaker 4: first kind of interaction with death was when I was
Speaker 4: like seven years old and my grandfather passed away, and
Speaker 4: I remember I would like go to like my mom's
Speaker 4: close at the section. She had like all of his
Speaker 4: suits still, and I would like try and talk to
Speaker 4: him or try and have an experience like at seven
Speaker 4: years old, like literally this has been like an obsession
Speaker 4: for most of my life. And there was no gratification,
Speaker 4: there was no like he didn't talk to me, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So that moment it was a
Speaker 4: game changer for me because I just I know in
Speaker 4: my heart that that was one million percent an experience
Speaker 4: that was given to me by someone who was dead,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I felt so much
Speaker 4: better after. It's hard to explain, but it felt like
Speaker 4: it was like Ryan being like, you can go on now,
Speaker 4: like everything, we're good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Dude, Definitely CJ.
Speaker 5: He was so genuinely like conflicted and bummed, like truly
Speaker 5: in a way that was so lingering. And I definitely
Speaker 5: was like, dude, I can tell you right now. Ryan
Speaker 5: would walk up to you and give you an enormous
Speaker 5: bear hug and be like are you kidding me? That
Speaker 5: doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter coming from me, and
Speaker 5: this experience genuinely let him off like a hook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like CJ was harboring weird guilt and shame and.
Speaker 5: It was like an And also like Ryan's such a
Speaker 5: loving person, it makes sense that he would be like, no, yeah,
Speaker 5: don't do that, like stop feeling bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this story. It's sort of like sometimes
Speaker 2: when people go to psychic mediums or something, and I
Speaker 2: know that's tough when things are unresolved or I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a variety of things, but I've seen it. I've
Speaker 2: seen it happen with the mediums that we worked with
Speaker 2: on this show, of them giving messages from people to
Speaker 2: their loved ones and being like, listen, I know you
Speaker 2: have this thought about me or whatever, but it's fine,
Speaker 2: and that stuff can be so healing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Was one thing that I know you and I
Speaker 4: had talked a lot about while filming, like these moments
Speaker 4: where you're like, we're filming like a fun ghost show,
Speaker 4: but then we have a really amazing medium with us
Speaker 4: who's like, hey, by the way, is there something like
Speaker 4: a wagon and a dog on the wagon, And then
Speaker 4: the specifics start coming through and the women are crying,
Speaker 4: and you're just like in the room like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: Like this is actually like you were interacting with someone's
Speaker 4: like very personal life and stories and their trauma. It
Speaker 4: gets really real real quick.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: But I think that's like a beautiful thing about this
Speaker 2: show is that there is a lot of that, as
Speaker 2: well as the fun and the beautiful aesthetic of it.
Speaker 2: But then also like anyone that's about to watch the show,
Speaker 2: get that clean X box nearby.
Speaker 3: Because you might need it.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 3: Have the two of you been two psychic mediums?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Ken keeps being like, I gotta read you girl.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, I.
Speaker 4: Would love to watch that. I had a reading with
Speaker 4: some one of our people that we were casting. He
Speaker 4: reached out and I was like, I want to give
Speaker 4: you a reading, and it was pretty intense.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, oh why is that?
Speaker 5: He literally just bit his lower lip to stop himself
Speaker 5: from Tommie.
Speaker 3: He goes, no, did it get to get Yeah?
Speaker 4: He got me that. I was in my car and
Speaker 4: I was on my break from work, and we did
Speaker 4: over the phone, and he had said some very spot
Speaker 4: on things, like very very spot on things, to the
Speaker 4: point where he was like, your grandmother is coming through
Speaker 4: and telling you to stop it with the coffee. And
Speaker 4: that whole week before I had been drinking so much
Speaker 4: coffee that it was like giving me like the worst
Speaker 4: acid reflex. And he's like, I don't know why I'm
Speaker 4: feeling like I'm going to throw up. And I was like,
Speaker 4: that's crazy because I literally last week threw up from
Speaker 4: drinking too much coffee.
Speaker 1: And CJ, you have not learned this lesson.
Speaker 5: You are constantly coffee.
Speaker 4: I have not learned this lesson now.
Speaker 3: But Kristen, is there a reason that you you haven't
Speaker 3: been to one.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. No, I just haven't. No.
Speaker 5: I mean my friend did like a little like wu
Speaker 5: girl Tarot card reading the other night and we did
Speaker 5: definitely unearth some shit that was uncanny, and I was like,
Speaker 5: all right, maybe there's something to this.
Speaker 1: I love the conversation that that stuff starts.
Speaker 5: Like I feel like it's almost like it's like if
Speaker 5: you think of acting class as acting class, it's not fun.
Speaker 5: But if you're like, yeah, but you're going to therapy
Speaker 5: and you're just like self indulging, Like it's sort of
Speaker 5: is like it's like that person and whoever may be
Speaker 5: around watching and yourself, you're just directing all of your
Speaker 5: thought and energy towards one thing, which is you or
Speaker 5: whatever question you have or whatever. And I think like
Speaker 5: the power and multiplicity is so overwhelming and you can
Speaker 5: get some shit done. Like really, if you put three
Speaker 5: different people like on one subject, I don't know, like
Speaker 5: it gets spooky, it just does. And uh, I would
Speaker 5: love to do it with like a pro you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I've really only done it like with
Speaker 5: my friends that were like let's try and figure some
Speaker 5: stuff out.
Speaker 2: You're making me realize, like because I always talk about
Speaker 2: how I've been to well over a hundred psychics in
Speaker 2: my day, and I do think it's I want to
Speaker 2: pay someone to.
Speaker 3: Talk about me for an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's just talk about me. I'm just so
Speaker 2: fascinated by people that created and are doing one of
Speaker 2: these shows. I'm so curious about, Like, what do you
Speaker 2: guys think of Bigfoot?
Speaker 5: For example, Hot Hot, Smash Daddy, Smash pressure.
Speaker 2: Okay, Mary Bang kill Bigfoot, Mothman or the Lockness Monster go.
Speaker 1: I am sucking the shit out of.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mothman has abs. I've seen a lot
Speaker 2: of renderings of Mothman because those wings, if you think
Speaker 2: about it, that's a great ab workout.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to wait, what was the third one? It was Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Mothman Bigfoot in Lockness.
Speaker 4: Oh Lockness is getting killed because he's like a swamp monster.
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna like Mary big No, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna marry Mothman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he can fly you around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I'm gonna do sex with Bigfoot because
Speaker 4: if he's got big feet, That's all I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 5: Okay, and Kristen, I'm gonna kill the lockness monster because
Speaker 5: I'm really not a water Baby's like, I'm scared of water.
Speaker 1: I don't need to be Like.
Speaker 2: But what if you're like dating the biggest creature in
Speaker 2: the water, what's there to be afraid of.
Speaker 1: I'm more it's essentially afraid of mothman. Therefore I would
Speaker 1: like to have sex with him.
Speaker 3: Oh an interesting insight.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And then the like literal fear thing with the
Speaker 5: water is just like that's practically uncomfortable for me. That's
Speaker 5: it's not like a very thoughtful thing. It's a real
Speaker 5: survival instinct. Is like I feel like a cat totally.
Speaker 5: And then Bigfoot for sure, because I'm a little guy
Speaker 5: and he could like do a bunch of stuff for us,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He would marry Bigfoot?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems nice too.
Speaker 5: He looks like Harry, like Harry Henderson was that show.
Speaker 3: Harry at the Hendersons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like what I picture. That's so sweet.
Speaker 4: That's cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like all of these people because
Speaker 2: they're very like they don't want the attention. They're like,
Speaker 2: just leave me alone. I'll make an appearance here and there.
Speaker 2: And then the paparazzi gets the sometimes the paparanci every time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like Bigfoot is so grounded, he'd be
Speaker 5: like a tristle.
Speaker 4: I will say that, like I think that nothing is
Speaker 4: off the table.
Speaker 3: When it comes to believes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like, you know, as soon as
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, there's no way like that can be possible,
Speaker 4: there's a YouTube video or a TikTok about the thing
Speaker 4: that I was like, there's no way a person can
Speaker 4: have two penises, and then sure enough it comes up
Speaker 4: on my Explorer page like the man was born with
Speaker 4: two penises. I'm like, well, there you have it, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So he was born with two penises. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 3: grown man, a grown man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you know he's a real grower and a shower.
Speaker 2: Wait are they to the side of each other or
Speaker 2: on top of each other?
Speaker 4: They're on top of each other.
Speaker 1: Imagine they're facing each other.
Speaker 5: They have like they're like standing at attention saluting each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by this. Okay, but anyway, that's not what
Speaker 3: this podcast is about.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, okay, So just overall, yeah, you're open
Speaker 2: minded to everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very much.
Speaker 5: So I don't think we have like the minds to
Speaker 5: really you know, we like express in words, but that
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that that's like the sort of limit of
Speaker 5: our experience. I still think like everything's completely on the
Speaker 5: table because we are cockroaches. We don't know anything or
Speaker 5: nor do we have the terms for it, like our
Speaker 5: desire to tell ourselves stories, like I think that they're
Speaker 5: in really basic sort of like insect terms that we
Speaker 5: can like understand in order to like carry on and
Speaker 5: not be so fearful, and that all of those conversations
Speaker 5: are bullshit but elicited by a very overwhelming truth that
Speaker 5: I think is like the unknown and it's scary, but
Speaker 5: I still believe in it. I'm like, whatever that is,
Speaker 5: it's real. There's too many overlapping experiences. There are too
Speaker 5: many like dire dire needs to explain things, but I
Speaker 5: just don't think we're ever going to.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that I think that it's bullshit.
Speaker 5: Like if you only believe in things that can be proven,
Speaker 5: you are the definition of.
Speaker 1: A moron, Like yeah, yeah, well said.
Speaker 2: I'm always like I'm a comedian that makes jokes about ghosts,
Speaker 2: Like if I had all the answers, like, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: aware of myself enough to be like, I don't know everything.
Speaker 2: I can't believe the people that are like I know
Speaker 2: everything and that's fake. I'm like, who are you? Like,
Speaker 2: how would you know everything? Why are we not like
Speaker 2: worshiping you?
Speaker 3: If you know? All the answers? Are you guys UFO
Speaker 3: girls or what?
Speaker 4: Oh? I am so in for UFO's, especially after this
Speaker 4: Vegas thing that was happening. Do you hear about this?
Speaker 3: Uh, don't forget the Mexico alien?
Speaker 4: What there's a oh the Mexican alien.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 4: Forgot about the Mexican alien. Yeah, for sure, there's aliens.
Speaker 4: Come on. That's kind of like to your point, like, oh,
Speaker 4: do we really think that we're the only things existing
Speaker 4: in like all of the universes and galaxies and all
Speaker 4: of the things. I think that they're out there. I
Speaker 4: think do they look like how the movies and TV
Speaker 4: has portrayed them to look? Maybe not?
Speaker 5: But I just met with this fucking incredibly smart, cool
Speaker 5: person who is also a filmmaker. But like went to
Speaker 5: some AI conference and all the AI people were like,
Speaker 5: let's talk about how you guys can integrate Ai into
Speaker 5: film and ask us anything, and all the filmmakers were
Speaker 5: just like, fuck movies, what is going on?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like we don't care about the movie Partlet's like, what
Speaker 5: are you most fearful of?
Speaker 1: Blah blah.
Speaker 5: Like basically, he was like the elite members of society
Speaker 5: slash just rich people with a lot of money are
Speaker 5: already like going up and living somewhere else in that
Speaker 5: like these UFO things happen absolutely every single day, like
Speaker 5: look up and you like, maybe you're not actually seeing it,
Speaker 5: but that they happen around us all the time.
Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, go away from me. I
Speaker 1: don't need this. I'm already so scared of everything, Like
Speaker 1: shut up.
Speaker 3: Do you like kind of believe that a little bit?
Speaker 1: As a story?
Speaker 5: It just makes so much sense, Like I definitely believe,
Speaker 5: like in it to the extent that I believe in
Speaker 5: absolutely everything and nothing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for sure I could see that happening. It
Speaker 1: makes too much sense.
Speaker 2: What about haunted dolls? What do you guys think about
Speaker 2: that as a concept. People love haunted dolls. They love
Speaker 2: to think that all these damn dolls have a ghost
Speaker 2: attached to them. People send me pictures NonStop. Do you
Speaker 2: think it's possible that a doll could have a ghost
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 5: Are ghosts like more into possessing or like inhabiting dolls
Speaker 5: because they can kind of be like what they used
Speaker 5: to be, Like why not inhabit.
Speaker 1: You know dressers? Yeah, inhabit a banana.
Speaker 2: In habit Wait, because a banana will die soon, someone
Speaker 2: will eat the banana.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I think that's a really good point that, Yeah, maybe
Speaker 4: they're like, ooh, that's like a thing I can. I
Speaker 4: can have eyes and nose in the mouth and arms
Speaker 4: again and it's a baby. So it gets like start over.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 5: The story is a little convenient, like that stuff seems
Speaker 5: like I believe in ghosts, and I believe in all
Speaker 5: the things that we don't know having.
Speaker 1: Like a valid potential realness to them.
Speaker 5: But this sounds like too kindergarten story book, do you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? It's like, of course, the fucking
Speaker 5: doll like that just sounds like something a person made up.
Speaker 5: But again, I bet they're all fucking haunted somewhere.
Speaker 4: Alex is cringing right now.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know Alex is all into these haunted dolls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I always entertain the idea of
Speaker 2: things being like haunted, not necessarily like, yes, people.
Speaker 3: Can die in a location and be hanted whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, But also I think that there's things where like
Speaker 2: if enough people are like that thing is scary, that
Speaker 2: thing looks haunted, that thing whatever, like it could manifest
Speaker 2: into that.
Speaker 3: I think it's possible.
Speaker 1: Like at the Clown Motel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Clown Motel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you loved the Clown Motel.
Speaker 3: CJ. I did not, don't you dare. Don't put that rumor.
Speaker 4: Out there you loved sleeping there?
Speaker 2: No, I hate it. Chris And the idea of sleeping
Speaker 2: in a haunted hotel, Now I know you did accidentally,
Speaker 2: But if you know the place is haunted and you're
Speaker 2: going to sleep there, how does that make you feel?
Speaker 2: Because for me, not good.
Speaker 1: No. I sent all of you out to do that
Speaker 1: so I could watch.
Speaker 5: I'm a watcher, But yeah, I like to watch that
Speaker 5: and giggle and be like, oh my god, what happened?
Speaker 5: But yeah, when I did visit you guys, me and
Speaker 5: CJ like went into the attic, but it was daylight
Speaker 5: and it just wasn't the right I think the ghosts
Speaker 5: were hiding because I am such a pussy cat.
Speaker 4: No, the ghost hugged you.
Speaker 5: Remember, I got chills for sure. But also then we
Speaker 5: were like, there's a window open. I wanted that to
Speaker 5: be real, and I'm such a scaredy cat, but I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, although at night that place was not sure.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the Lamp Mansion in Saint Louis, and
Speaker 2: that's the place. When I went up into that attic,
Speaker 2: I started vomiting.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's actually very very very true. And I
Speaker 4: thought you were joking. At first. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is like a fun bit until I'm dying. I'm
Speaker 4: like listening in on my feet. I'm just like cool.
Speaker 4: And then as soon as I saw it coming out
Speaker 4: of your mouth, I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 4: is actually happening.
Speaker 1: Ross is like, I'm going for the Emmy. It's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love Logan's reaction too.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh my god, I can't Should I go
Speaker 5: get someone.
Speaker 1: I can't do this. I can't deal with this anymore.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 4: He's literally like juju.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just squawking like a parrot. He's no help.
Speaker 2: But to be fair, when he the few times he
Speaker 2: got possessed, I was no help. So I don't blame him.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know what to do in this situation.
Speaker 2: You guys, this is so cool that you did this.
Speaker 4: Thank you, this is fun.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having us, Mommy.
Speaker 2: Let's just talk about the show real quick at the end. Here,
Speaker 2: favorite episode one that resonates the most with you guys.
Speaker 1: I like the first and the last. I really love
Speaker 1: getting to know you guys.
Speaker 5: Like I love the first episode because you guys have
Speaker 5: just all come together and it feels kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 5: what do we do?
Speaker 1: Like who are we to each other? And like how
Speaker 1: are we going to like be a team.
Speaker 5: And also the clown Motel is just like the weirdest
Speaker 5: destination in America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I.
Speaker 5: Love the sort of hosts or whatever, like the guys
Speaker 5: who own that hotel are the most adorable little fuckers.
Speaker 1: Like they were so sweet and like they love the clowns.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're so cute.
Speaker 5: And then the last one, I just think it was
Speaker 5: like it did everything that me and CJ dreamt the
Speaker 5: show could have done.
Speaker 1: It It's sort of most ambitious, which was like be a.
Speaker 5: Show about homies, people that love each other, people that
Speaker 5: like you know, are brave enough to go into these
Speaker 5: spaces and help people who kind of need to process
Speaker 5: something do it with like a lot of compassion and
Speaker 5: support and like love and care.
Speaker 1: And then also that place is scary as hell.
Speaker 5: Like I just had all of the elements, and I
Speaker 5: was like so proud of you guys, and so proud
Speaker 5: of like us because like you know, it just started
Speaker 5: as nothing, and then like once everyone came together, it
Speaker 5: so naturally informed itself. I just was like, it's so
Speaker 5: fucking emotional and stupid and funny, and like, I love
Speaker 5: you guys. I like, if we don't get to do
Speaker 5: it again, I'll be so bummed because I want to see,
Speaker 5: like I want to see it developed, Like I want
Speaker 5: to see you guys push it even further and get
Speaker 5: more like freedom and control and like make it fucking.
Speaker 1: Yours and yeah, blah blah. So proud of you guys.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to hang out tonight. I've spent so
Speaker 5: little time with you. I'm so jealousy j gets to
Speaker 5: like kick it constantly, made the whole show with you.
Speaker 5: I was only there for like five minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tonight, we're gonna We're gonna hang out and
Speaker 2: celebrate the show and I can't wait. Yeah, CJ, what's
Speaker 2: your favorite episode of Living for the Dad currently now
Speaker 2: on Hulu.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Okay, they're all great. They're all like
Speaker 4: hugs from you guys who I love and endoor so much.
Speaker 4: And they're equally spooky. The're equally like, have the heart
Speaker 4: the laughter, Roz. You make me laugh every time you're
Speaker 4: on the screen. Icon you know. I just watched the
Speaker 4: House of Will's episode the other night, and it's just
Speaker 4: such a strong episode because you guys get in there
Speaker 4: and you're just doing your thing, and you are so
Speaker 4: hilarious in it.
Speaker 3: You were with me and we were terrified.
Speaker 4: I was with you the whole time on that episode,
Speaker 4: and we were very terrified. Also, Copper Queen is a
Speaker 4: really strong one. That place, genuinely, to your point, Roz
Speaker 4: is the scariest place, and if I never have to
Speaker 4: sleep there again, I won't.
Speaker 5: And well now I feel like we have to. I'm
Speaker 5: feeling so left out of this. Even though I'm like
Speaker 5: I'm scared, I'm like, oh I want that.
Speaker 2: Do it, please do it and then come back on
Speaker 2: this podcast and report right.
Speaker 5: Just to instill my deep fear of coffee pods.
Speaker 4: So the Copper Queen, to me personally, is the scariest
Speaker 4: one because I was there and I actually slept there,
Speaker 4: and so when I watch it, it's like I have like trauma. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like reliving that trauma. But it's also a very
Speaker 4: strong episode. They're all great. I hope everyone loves the show.
Speaker 4: I hope that you love the show, Raws, and I'm
Speaker 4: just so proud of you.
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite of the five cast members?
Speaker 2: Kill Mary, kill four, and keep one.
Speaker 4: I am going to plead the fifth and then just
Speaker 4: say that Kristen's my favorite cast member. She's the sixth
Speaker 4: cast member.
Speaker 3: The narrator.
Speaker 1: The narrator.
Speaker 2: Well, also, CJ, I should publicly acknowledge that I am
Speaker 2: very bad at hair and was very stressed about having
Speaker 2: to do my own hair, and you are a professional
Speaker 2: hair stylist I am, and refuse to do it for me.
Speaker 2: So I had to do the entire season my own hair,
Speaker 2: and it was very frustrating having you right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I would go to your room about two hours
Speaker 4: before our call time and I would just sit on
Speaker 4: your couch and watch me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just kidding, CJ. Did my hair thang siege.
Speaker 4: It was actually so fun. I was nervous at first
Speaker 4: because I was just like, oh my god, like, I
Speaker 4: can't fuck up Ros's hair. And then we got.
Speaker 3: She's known around Los Angeles and if.
Speaker 4: She's not yet, I'll make sure everyone knows. No, I'm
Speaker 4: kidding no. I last it was like so nice to
Speaker 4: just go to your room and like we could just
Speaker 4: like decompress before like a long day of work. So
Speaker 4: it was like it was cool. Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 5: I jumped in on the day that I came to.
Speaker 5: CJ was like, oh, go to your Ross's hair. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh where.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, like in her room, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm fucking coming to that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, CJ came to my room to
Speaker 2: do my hair and I was like, oh, Kristen Stewart's here.
Speaker 2: I probably could have put.
Speaker 3: Some of my laundry away. Thanks CJ.
Speaker 4: Well, why did you have that same consideration for me?
Speaker 2: I got real comfortable around you, and also the things
Speaker 2: I've smelled that have come out of your body, I
Speaker 2: don't really care anymore.
Speaker 4: Good point.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks so much. Tell one last time the
Speaker 2: pitch for the show for people to watch it for.
Speaker 4: You take it away the narrator.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm kind of like totally like so different
Speaker 5: from the show. In my narration, I almost I'm like
Speaker 5: butt head from Beavis and Butadhead.
Speaker 1: I literally am like, oh, don't go in there, dude.
Speaker 1: So let me just say, you know how you're like
Speaker 1: living for the Dead.
Speaker 5: They like tried to have me do that for the trailer,
Speaker 5: and I was like, uh, living for the dead.
Speaker 1: Obviously you had to step and help out living.
Speaker 3: Do the guh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll try that next time.
Speaker 5: But the show is audacious, It is queer as hell,
Speaker 5: It is curious, it is explorative. It really unearthed some
Speaker 5: real life prouble mos and does away.
Speaker 1: With them with heart and humor.
Speaker 5: And you know, you guys traverse samarias that I would
Speaker 5: never set foot into. And so like, for anyone who
Speaker 5: is a little pansy like me, you can just watch
Speaker 5: the show and have a gayale time with some really cool, fucking,
Speaker 5: funny queer fuckers.
Speaker 1: How was that? Was that a good pitch? How did
Speaker 1: I get the show? Made it? Right now?
Speaker 4: And I'll add one thing to that, because it was
Speaker 4: really well said. You guys, look amazing at it too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's guys look so cool like superheroes, Like you all
Speaker 4: have your own things.
Speaker 2: Like when it is said that this is like a
Speaker 2: queer ghost hunting show, I think that some people might
Speaker 2: hear that and be like, what does that mean that
Speaker 2: only the.
Speaker 3: Ghosts are queer?
Speaker 2: Or does that mean like I don't understand why the
Speaker 2: people have to be gay or queer or whatever, But
Speaker 2: it is a show done through a queer lens, and
Speaker 2: I do think that there's a way of queer culture
Speaker 2: is a culture, and for sure, this cast in particular
Speaker 2: is a very diverse spectrum of LGBTQ. But we have
Speaker 2: like a lot of things in common. We have ways
Speaker 2: of speaking that are queer, we have ways of handling
Speaker 2: situations that are queer. The esthetic is queer, the humor
Speaker 2: is queer, like all of that is a part of it.
Speaker 3: Though, like culture as it.
Speaker 2: Is just in general mainstream culture and stuff, a lot
Speaker 2: of it comes from queer cultures. So it's like it's
Speaker 2: familiar to I think everyone, but it is a very
Speaker 2: queer show.
Speaker 4: It is a very queer show, and I think we
Speaker 4: out a lot of themes for these episodes that we
Speaker 4: weren't really like really plan or think ahead, like a
Speaker 4: lot of like chosen family conversations were had a lot
Speaker 4: of like relating to as a queer person, how you
Speaker 4: can relate to like a spirit or a ghost, those conversations.
Speaker 4: So I think it's it's a show that like really
Speaker 4: takes you there too, where you're like, wow, I never
Speaker 4: really thought about that comparison. But like to your point,
Speaker 4: it's like a queer lens, and so we get to
Speaker 4: see that version of it, which is so fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like not like a sort of Broye take.
Speaker 5: It's not the guys who are going in and like
Speaker 5: provoking spirits and getting like demon voices to be like,
Speaker 5: but then you still get the sort of like hot
Speaker 5: goth thing from Alex and she like brings that in
Speaker 5: a way that I've never seen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's like, these people are people that would be my friends,
Speaker 5: and so therefore I would prefer to hang out with
Speaker 5: them while they went and did scary stuff. And it's
Speaker 5: a really ingratiating group. It feels like a huk. I mean,
Speaker 5: it genuinely feels like safer to be with you guys,
Speaker 5: And therefore I'm like down to do scary with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and shout out to Scout Productions while we're here
Speaker 4: talking about this show because they killed it. We love
Speaker 4: them over there. Yes, and our lovely director Elaine, we
Speaker 4: love her too, and Olivia the whole crew.
Speaker 3: The whole crew was amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got really lucky with that for sure.
Speaker 3: One more question, what was your favorite thing about me
Speaker 3: on the show?
Speaker 4: Okay? Are you asking like in person while we were
Speaker 4: filming or when.
Speaker 3: Watching all of that?
Speaker 4: Okay, I have two answers. I'll give you the one
Speaker 4: that was like the in person one. When we filmed,
Speaker 4: we filmed in like January February, and it was freezing cold,
Speaker 4: like freezing freezing cold, and Roz gets very cold, very
Speaker 4: easily and does not like being cold. And so there
Speaker 4: was moments like when we're like, you know, packing up
Speaker 4: equipment or like running somewhere, and I just look over
Speaker 4: and you just are making fists, like staring off into nothing,
Speaker 4: And I just knew in that moment that you were
Speaker 4: just trying to compose yourself from losing it so hard.
Speaker 4: But I just found it so endearing and so funny
Speaker 4: that you were just like probably counting backwards from ten
Speaker 4: and I just was like, oh my god, that's my girl.
Speaker 4: I love her so much. She's such a trooper. And
Speaker 4: then on the show, I think that is the thing
Speaker 4: I think everyone's gonna love about you, is that when
Speaker 4: moments are like building and building and building, and we're
Speaker 4: like where are we going? Where is the show taking us?
Speaker 4: And then it just cuts to you and you're just
Speaker 4: like in a dark closet eating like a potato chip.
Speaker 4: You're just like, I'm fucking scared. And when I get scared,
Speaker 4: I eat. And I think it's just that breadth of
Speaker 4: like humor that's needed in these ghost heading shows that
Speaker 4: I am just so happy that you were a part
Speaker 4: of it and that you are that breath of fresh air.
Speaker 3: Oh and you are a breath of not fresh air.
Speaker 5: My favorite thing is actually like post joke or even
Speaker 5: after you've done like a kind of serious interview like
Speaker 5: sidebarring thing, because we do that a lot, where we
Speaker 5: like pick you guys off and ask you question and stuff.
Speaker 5: And my favorite thing is after you'll say something, we
Speaker 5: linger on you for just a minute while you like
Speaker 5: marinate and what you have just said, you are like,
Speaker 5: I don't know how the fuck you do it like
Speaker 5: you could be saying nothing, and just the way you
Speaker 5: like inhabit the space with like this like ironic self awareness.
Speaker 5: You're like, oh, yeah, what we're doing is kind of wild,
Speaker 5: and like, I don't know how you always make that fine.
Speaker 1: This is good, this is good for your podcast. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to just cut this up, but just.
Speaker 5: Take it as an actual But just take it as
Speaker 5: an actual compliment.
Speaker 1: Literally, we would be dying.
Speaker 5: Like in edits, my biggest note always was like, do
Speaker 5: not cut after that, dope, let it breathe for a second,
Speaker 5: because do you see your fucking face afterwards? Like always
Speaker 5: little moments after Yeah, it's so fun to edit you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you well, Beavis butt head, Thank you guys
Speaker 2: so much for joining me and thank you for casting
Speaker 2: me on this show.
Speaker 3: Show what a dream.
Speaker 4: Thank you for being on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't even imagine the show without you on. It
Speaker 1: would have sucked.
Speaker 4: I have one question for you, roz If and when
Speaker 4: we do a season two, do you have a dream
Speaker 4: location or destination or where do you like want to go?
Speaker 2: I think Kristen's house because I keep seeing something a
Speaker 2: little drummer boy behind. I would say my dream location.
Speaker 2: I really want to go to New Orleans. I really
Speaker 2: want to go to Salem. I like going to the
Speaker 2: big places, like the iconic places. And you know, I'm
Speaker 2: never afraid, even on this podcast to talk about things
Speaker 2: that people have already explored on TV shows or podcasts
Speaker 2: or whatever, because I'm like, well, this is going to
Speaker 2: be like the queer version, the ra's version, the whatever.
Speaker 2: So I'm not afraid of going to like those places
Speaker 2: that everyone already knows.
Speaker 3: But god, I have I have a list.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what's my favorite haunted place in Los Angeles?
Speaker 2: The Hollywood Wax Museum. Oh, not Madam Toosso, the Hollywood
Speaker 2: Wax Museum. It's a different one. There might be a
Speaker 2: Christen Stewart, now that I think about it, I don't know.
Speaker 5: But no, I think there's probably a rub Ooh he's
Speaker 5: just funnier to make a wax figure out of.
Speaker 2: Well, these wax figures, you just got to see them
Speaker 2: for yourself. But that place is haunted, and I had
Speaker 2: heard that already, and I went there one time on
Speaker 2: a date and I was like, I asked the employees,
Speaker 2: I was like, have you ever heard about this place
Speaker 2: being haunted?
Speaker 3: And They were like, how do you know that we
Speaker 3: just had.
Speaker 2: Something happen And I was like, well, I googled it,
Speaker 2: but they kind of confirmed for me that it is haunted,
Speaker 2: but a haunted wax museum on a Hollywood boulevard.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so fun.
Speaker 4: That is really fun for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, you guys are busy. Thanks for doing this.
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Cyya, Byra, thank you bye. Thank you so much to
Speaker 2: Kristen and CJ. Halloween time, tons of new people come
Speaker 2: in to listen to something spooky, and I so appreciate
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 3: Stop and buy.
Speaker 2: However, I just want you to know that I'm spooky
Speaker 2: all year round. So even next week, the next week,
Speaker 2: I keep it going. I've got some amazing celebrity interviews
Speaker 2: coming up, some hilarious comedians coming up on the show.
Speaker 2: So please subscribe to the show and continue to listen
Speaker 2: and spread the word. Have a wonderful Halloween. Be safe
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: I love you all, both living and dead.
Speaker 2: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
Speaker 2: haunt me came by.
Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 2: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.
Speaker 3: I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you.
Speaker 2: So email me at ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: You can send a DM or voice message to the
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Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee.
Speaker 2: Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was
Speaker 2: mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My
Speaker 2: guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support
Speaker 2: from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton.
Speaker 3: My theme music is by.
Speaker 2: The spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 2: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen.
Speaker 3: Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth the Spooky Georgia
Speaker 3: Hard Start, and the Frightening an Yell Kramer