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Speaker 1: say everything wrong, I'm reading me and it was the

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Speaker 1: best day of my life. Welcome to The Slynn Show

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Speaker 1: Come on, and where you'll hear stories about your favorite

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Speaker 1: Jaguars from the people who know them best. I'm Ashlyn Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear from none other than Flint Minshew. That's right, Gardner,

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Speaker 1: Minshew's dad. We're gonna find out the true origin of

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Speaker 1: the statue and how Mississippi Boy has transforms into an

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Speaker 1: NFL starting quarterback. Flinch, you must be so excited and

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Speaker 1: so honored that you are the first guest. I'm absolutely honored. Um,

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Speaker 1: I would hate to see the list of people that

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Speaker 1: turned you down before you finally got to but but no,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I always appreciate you guys covering Gardner. We

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Speaker 1: don't take any of that stuff for granted. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear that. So take me through the off season.

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Speaker 1: What has the family been up to. I know you've

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Speaker 1: been in Jacksonville for a little bit, going back and forth. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Gardner got a house uh this summer, and and

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Speaker 1: actually my middle daughter, who just graduated from Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: My well, I went down and kind of checked out everything,

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Speaker 1: and then my wife went down and made him by

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Speaker 1: decorate it. And my my my daughter Meredith, who's living

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Speaker 1: And she's got a doll dog. And and so to

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Speaker 1: his credit, Gardner asked if she would, uh, if she

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Speaker 1: You guys seem like a very close knit family, and

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Speaker 1: Gardner seems very close to his sisters, what what kind

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Speaker 1: of brother is he? Is he the protective kind? Like

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Speaker 1: I see that Kelly has a boyfriend? Now, so how

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Speaker 1: did that work? Was it? Really? And Meredith does as

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Speaker 1: it's different with Meredith because they're so close in age

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Speaker 1: don't want to make a decision that might hurt there.

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Speaker 1: It's a really easy to offer a guy that's got

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Speaker 1: and um and I'll really I'll really light into it. Well,

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Speaker 1: it to every single college coach. I'll show Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So so if anybody ever tells you that, say, look

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Speaker 1: to sell that to somebody else. That's a crop yep.

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Speaker 1: hand in a card or I'm not saying, hey, you

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Speaker 1: need to do this by any means, but I know

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do it anyway, so I'm trying, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and what's bad is when that story came out,

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Speaker 1: my wife comes to me and she goes, hey, did

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Speaker 1: you know about that? And I'm like, well, yeah I did,

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Speaker 1: and She's like, oh my god, you like Father of

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Speaker 1: the Year. So yeah. But the good thing about all

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Speaker 1: that is, and Ashton, you've been around him enough to

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Speaker 1: know and your teammates would know that's just him, you know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you were trying to be fake about that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: y'all would have seen through that by game six last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't work. So that's that's just his personality.

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Speaker 1: And one thing I always tell him before is four

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Speaker 1: games and ill was, Hey, go out there and have

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Speaker 1: fun because that's what that's what it's supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: And the day it doesn't become fun, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a sad day. Gardner and I are the

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Speaker 1: same age, and I always find it interesting. He seems

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Speaker 1: like such an old soul. I remember going up to

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Lunch one day. Yogurt part fay bar, best part

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Speaker 1: of Jaguars Lunch. Gardners sme there speaker phone. The Doobie

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Speaker 1: Brothers is playing. The only reason I know the Doobie

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Speaker 1: Brothers is because my mom made me go to a

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Speaker 1: concert two weeks ago. I'm thinking of your old guy

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Speaker 1: is willingly listening to the Doobie Brothers. Well, and part

449
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Speaker 1: of that might be my fault becomes, you know, like

450
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Speaker 1: riding around a lot of these parents put the radio on,

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Speaker 1: you know, Radio Disney or Kids Bop or some crap

452
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Speaker 1: like that. Now we were we were rolling with Led

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Speaker 1: Zeppelin and Almand Brothers and everybody else. So it might

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Speaker 1: be one of those things that he just, you know,

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Speaker 1: didn't really have a choice, that's what he knows, uh,

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Speaker 1: But now he does. He and um, y'all got a

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Speaker 1: guy there in Jacksonville that what his dad was in

458
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Speaker 1: the Almond Brothers or uh Tedesky is right, And he

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Speaker 1: actually got to meet him and spend some time with

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Speaker 1: him this week. And so he's been trying to learn

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Speaker 1: to play the guitar. And that's another one of those

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Speaker 1: things he's doing just so when he gets home, he's

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Speaker 1: not thinking about ball. He's just practicing the guitar. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't much Britney spears or anything like

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Speaker 1: that going on in my truck. You seem like Britney

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Speaker 1: spears at a guy that surprises me. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: she is a Mississippi girl. But I mean, let's just

468
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Speaker 1: don't tell anybody, you know, um um, anybody asked, If

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Speaker 1: anybody asked, it's it's it's Almond Brothers. So it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Gardner said something a couple of weeks ago that definitely

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Speaker 1: we've taken notice too, is this is his first camp

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Speaker 1: since high school coming in that he knew he was

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, and we're already already noticing a difference,

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Speaker 1: and it's confidence. He definitely is carrying himself like a starter.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen from him this offseason? What conversations

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Speaker 1: have you had that that makes you think he's definitely

477
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Speaker 1: taking this opportunity to his advantage. I think that's one thing.

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Speaker 1: He has a perspective that it could all end pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's worked his whole life to be

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Speaker 1: where he is right now, but he doesn't. He's not

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Speaker 1: satisfied where he is right now. I think the only

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Speaker 1: way he knows how to go about it is to compete.

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Speaker 1: We got all these little minshewisms around the house that

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Speaker 1: they heard his kids growing up, and one of them is, hey,

485
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Speaker 1: if you're not getting better, you're getting worse. You don't

486
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Speaker 1: ever stay the same and so and there's a lot

487
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Speaker 1: of truth to that. I mean, they got sick of

488
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Speaker 1: hearing it, but uh, but you know, that's just kind

489
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Speaker 1: of ingrained at them, and and he took to it.

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Speaker 1: They need to go out there and have a good

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Speaker 1: start against Indianapolis, figure out who they are, and then

492
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Speaker 1: uh and what works and what doesn't work. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a big expectations guy because I know, I mean, you

494
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Speaker 1: just look at last year, and nobody talks about this

495
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Speaker 1: with Jacksonville. Like I remember at one point last year,

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Speaker 1: it was later in the season, He's like, I literally

497
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Speaker 1: don't know half the guys on the defense. There were

498
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Speaker 1: so many injuries, you know, and then like you look

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Speaker 1: at a guy like like dam Josh Oliver, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just how fragile it is when you got fifty

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Speaker 1: three guys out there and man, five or six of

502
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Speaker 1: those guys get hurt and you're like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And then everybody else is kind of going through some

504
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Speaker 1: of that, and so they're trying to pick up the

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Speaker 1: pieces and put back together. And you know that. I

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Speaker 1: hate to say there's a little luck involved, because you

507
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: make your luck, but you better you better be ready

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Speaker 1: to roll with the changes and because there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some you know, every week. I do think that what

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are doing. I get tickled at the whole

511
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Speaker 1: tanking thing because and I think Gardner said this other

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Speaker 1: day and his interview, and it's like, dude, if they tank,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna lose their freaking jobs. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: card Is Gardners included cal Well, all the coaches. I mean,

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00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, nobody keeps guys around because they like them.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be productive. I mean that that just

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Speaker 1: people are that naive or you know, and I guess

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Speaker 1: people just want an excuse, you know, they want to

519
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Speaker 1: be angry about stuff, you know. And I think they

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Speaker 1: got a good core group. They got guys that want

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Speaker 1: to be there. And I think that's part of what

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Speaker 1: Carl Well at Marone, not that I'm privy to any

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Speaker 1: kind of conversation, and in truth, he told Gardner and

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Speaker 1: I don't talk about stuff like that. You can't. You

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Speaker 1: can't convinced me that they're not trying to do what's

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00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: best for the team right now, because they like said

527
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Speaker 1: that if they don't, they're not They're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: here in January. Anyway. Yep, I couldn't agree more. Flipman, Shoot,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for being our first guest on The

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Speaker 1: Shlin Show on Right around the Corner. Yeah, hey, little

531
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Speaker 1: little trivia. As far as my podcast history, I was on.

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Speaker 1: I was the first guest on the Golic Family podcast

533
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Speaker 1: as well. And yeah, and they actually gave me Guests

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Speaker 1: of the Year. But another part of that caveat to

535
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Speaker 1: that too is uh I was the only guest they had.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, you know what you said, A high bar.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you guests the years now, Yeah, I said,

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Speaker 1: I hope you can upgrade weekly. If not, I'm afraid

539
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: your podcast will fast for you long. You said a

540
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Speaker 1: high bar, don't worry so much. Thank you, and if

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Speaker 1: you need anything to fall, we'll do. Thanks. I'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you soon. Can't thank Flintmanto enough for being our

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Speaker 1: first guest this week and setting the bar so very high.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone found him as entertaining as I did.

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Speaker 1: And we learned a little bit more about q B one.

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Speaker 1: So many great people to think for getting this podcast

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Speaker 1: up and running finally after months of hard work. Joe

548
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: fort Tonado, our producer making it sound all nice, Eric

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00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: and Nick and Jags Productions for getting its social media ready,

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: Savannah Wood for posting, and so many more. I hope

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Speaker 1: this episode did not make your ears bleed and you

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00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: actually somewhat liked it and you'll come back and listen.

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00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: If not, we're not friends anymore. See up. Have a

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Speaker 1: nice life, that's all,