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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noel.

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Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Alexis code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly,

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Speaker 3: you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't

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Speaker 3: want you to know. It is the top of the week,

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Speaker 3: almost the end of February. So much weird stuff has

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Speaker 3: been going on. West Virginia is prosecuting librarians for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Science has a lot of questions about stingrays, body parts,

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Speaker 3: just a kimbo, all sorts of strange things in the sky.

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Speaker 3: We're thinking we could start off today, gentlemen, with an

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Speaker 3: update to Tara Nullies. Remember the episode we did quite

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Speaker 3: recently on the quote unquote unclaimed land concept.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yes, which lands are unclaimed yet maybe

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Speaker 3: Everybody's going after beer tall Will. Doc Holiday is officially

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Speaker 3: buyed up Beer to Will to start her micronation, Pete

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Speaker 3: and Bazonia. That part is not true, just to be clear,

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Speaker 3: we want to thank everybody took time to write in

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Speaker 3: on various social media platforms to talk about Antarctica, because

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Speaker 3: we received a lot of interest on Antarctica, and it

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Speaker 3: appears that some state powers also have a lot of

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Speaker 3: interest in Antarctica, namely China and most recently are raw

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Speaker 3: That's right, the Iran that is nowhere near Antarctica. They're

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Speaker 3: super down. They're super down to expand on the on

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Speaker 3: the southernmost continent. Have we ever talked about China in

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Speaker 3: Antarctica much lesser rat.

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Speaker 4: You mean, talked about China whilst physically in Antarctica. I

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Speaker 4: don't think so. But what no, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Jump sorry, no, keep it wild nights.

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Speaker 2: I think really, I think we've focused on the United States,

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Speaker 2: the UH, German, Germany's interest a while back, and just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so a bit of background with Antarctica. The

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Speaker 3: tricky thing about Antarctica is kind of like it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like the Moon. There are seven state powers that

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Speaker 3: have made territorial claims on that continent, but there are

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Speaker 3: they are operating in Antitarctica under the guys or the

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Speaker 3: auspice of scientific research places like India, Italy, Japan, Pakistan, Russia, China,

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Speaker 3: and of course the United States. Because of the treaties

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Speaker 3: involving the treaties applied to Antarctica, you can't really lay

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Speaker 3: a terra nullius claim like not one that will be

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Speaker 3: there are increasing concerns about Chinese activity in Antarctica, and

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Speaker 3: Matt Nole this reminded me a little bit of our

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Speaker 3: conversation in that episode where we were saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: global temperatures are increasing. The land that is right now

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Speaker 3: so desolate, and so barren may become you know, the

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Speaker 3: I don't know West Arctica, man, the dutchy might happen.

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Speaker 2: This is this is really cool to me. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: that treaty is based on the idea that nobody's going

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Speaker 3: Nor u mineral exploration or resource extraction. So okay, you

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Speaker 3: can go there and you can say, wow, we're learning

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Speaker 3: a lot about ice. The same way that you could

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Speaker 2: Dude. If we've learned anything from Watchman, okay, and other

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Speaker 2: things like that, Antarctica is a great place for frozen waste,

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Speaker 2: great place to build some kind of underground research and

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Speaker 4: It's definitely out of the way. This is especially once

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Speaker 4: you dig down into the ice. It's mega out of

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Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is like, any superpower is

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Speaker 2: in your territory. Well that's fair if you've got a

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Speaker 3: Come on, guys, it's been an ongoing what corporate America

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Speaker 3: no mineral exploration. But what is the line between scientific

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Speaker 3: read a really great article from several twenty nineteen from

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Speaker 3: Snape no Dash Snape real name, And shout out to

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Speaker 3: by the way, the base that people are worried about

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Speaker 2: so I wonder if it's a China trying to make

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Speaker 2: sure they have eyes on, right, like close eyes on

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Speaker 4: Are still some peeping, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's still some peeping, just so, and the let's give

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Speaker 3: coming to us from George Bunn writing for GBN. The

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Speaker 4: Is it a similar situation where like countries who have

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Speaker 3: It is. It is a good comparison. It's a little

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Speaker 3: like nuclear monitor you know how there's a nuclear monitoring

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Speaker 3: thing for antarcticut there are a bunch of very overwork

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Speaker 4: Well, the logistics of it seem very prohibitive, just yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're doing is only vaguely military and it's relatively easy

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Speaker 2: But what of the polar bears? How are you going

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Speaker 3: Polar bears are in the North Pole.

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Speaker 2: Oh my bad, I mean giant crabs.

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Speaker 3: There we go, Yeah, ice crabs. The penguins, you know

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Speaker 4: Right, you've seen those guys march. They're terrifying. Come at

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Speaker 2: By then they're in the water.

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Speaker 4: No man, look to your left, look to you're right.

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Speaker 3: Was there a penguin? That's the question they're asking in Antartan.

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Speaker 4: Can't look to your left or right anymore because they've

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Speaker 3: H talked about this is called the chin Ling Research Center,

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Speaker 3: China quote ascend the peak of science. And the official

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Speaker 3: word is that they are still adhering to the Hodgepodge

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Speaker 2: Asked treaties really quickly, How do you spell that just

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Speaker 2: so we can look.

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Speaker 3: A spokesperson for the Tendling Stations said, it will quote

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Speaker 3: contribute to enhancing humanity's scientific understanding of Antarctica, provide a

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Speaker 3: development in Antarctica. So there are a couple of little

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Speaker 2: They're doing it right there. Everybody's getting ready for the

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Speaker 3: It's like you can smell the pizza and you just

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Speaker 4: I like that. Let's also not do anything to mid

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Speaker 4: agame the ice melting. We're just gonna, you know, make

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Speaker 2: We're just in such a weird place because we all

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Speaker 2: that football player?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I feel better now.

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Speaker 3: Right right? Yeah, we do love a face on an issue, right,

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Speaker 3: Like how many people only learned about the science or

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Speaker 3: the concept of climate change when they saw memes about

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Speaker 3: Greta Thumberg. It's tut tut to be quite honest. But

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Speaker 3: also Australia, this is something a lot of our fellow

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Speaker 3: especially their investment arms and intelligence agencies. I was unaware,

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Speaker 3: you guys, Australia has, in their opinion a claim the

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Speaker 3: forty two percent of Antarctica. They're saying we're not. They're

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Speaker 3: not going to drill for oil. But forty two percent

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Speaker 2: They just made an announcement about a huge military build

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Speaker 2: That's priority number one.

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Speaker 4: But we're just going to stop you every turn, stimy

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Speaker 2: This is written February twentieth of this year by Edward Hellmore.

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Speaker 4: What was it like apped in anything? Was it possible

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Speaker 2: We don't know anything about the leg, but just it

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Speaker 2: That attack came two days after a Brazilian tourist was

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Speaker 4: And so and then there was a cellist that was

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Speaker 2: point in this article. The New York subway system is massive.

437
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: It's huge, and especially when you compare it to smaller

438
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: outfits like you know, the one we have here Marta.

439
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: In a couple other big cities that I've been to,

440
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: they've got tiny I mean, even if they're large, they've

441
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: got tiny, little little operations compared to the MTA's thing.

442
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: Even Los Angeles. It's a very Marta esque system. It

443
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: only goes very few places, not particularly useful. It's sort

444
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: of a cross, a double cross kind of situation, a

445
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: lot like the yeah yeah.

446
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: And really there's nothing else. Really, there's nothing else more

447
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: to say besides In this article they note that Eric Adams,

448
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: the current Mayor of New York, added one thousand uniformed

449
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: undercover officers to patrol the subway system, which is something

450
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: to keep in mind when you're on there in both

451
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: a good and bad way.

452
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Speaker 3: We have what we do have One important announcement, I

453
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Speaker 3: would add, Bet, have you recently been in New York

454
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: City and lost a leg? If so please do contact

455
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 3: the MTA. I'm kidding that person probably died. A lot

456
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: of a lot of unhoused people live in a subterraine environment.

457
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: They get hit by the railway.

458
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Speaker 4: Leg Maybe yeah, that's yeah, maybe that is it. I

459
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 4: do have a friend who lives in New York and

460
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: recently was posting an Instagram story of police doing random

461
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Speaker 4: bag checks at certain stations. And this friend is a

462
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: bit of a what you might call in and our

463
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 4: guess type individual, So it was very much posted in

464
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Speaker 4: the context of look what the pigs are doing kind

465
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: of you know, but I wonder if that's part of

466
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: this initiative. You know, in the wake of these kind

467
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: of things, they're probably not looking to you know, grab

468
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: your weed or anything. I mean, that's freaking legal there.

469
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: They're probably literally looking for weapons and pipes and you know,

470
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 4: slash slashable type you know implements.

471
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Speaker 2: Guys, we have I have two more stories I wanted

472
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Speaker 2: to do, We're only gonna have time for one, so uh,

473
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna mention this one super fast. There is an

474
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: old satellite that was built by the European Space Agency

475
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: called the ERS two that stands for Earth Remote Sensing

476
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: satellite and it's the second one of two that were

477
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: built at the same time and launched. It is another

478
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Speaker 2: one of these satellites that has been decommissioned. It has

479
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: been uncontrollable for years now. Things has been about fifteen

480
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: years where that thing has been just orbiting around the Earth.

481
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Nobody can do anything with it. But the team behind

482
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: the team that was controlling the satellite, when they could

483
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: control it, put it into a lower orbit on purpose.

484
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: So eventually it would just crash into the Earth at

485
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Speaker 2: some point. And at the time it was fifteen years ago,

486
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: they estimated it would be about fifteen years then it

487
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: would crash into the Earth. And as we are recording today, guys,

488
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Speaker 2: that satellite is headed towards Earth on Wednesday, February twenty first,

489
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Speaker 2: and they have no idea, well they have a slight

490
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: idea of where it's going to crash. And all of

491
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: the scientists say, well, the Earth is mostly water, so

492
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Speaker 2: you know, the possibility is that it's going to hit

493
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Speaker 2: water if any of the parts, the constituent parts that

494
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Speaker 2: are made of like carbon fiber, make it through that

495
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: gauntlet that is the atmosphere. Really nice, yeah, but think

496
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: about that, there's satellites above us that are going to

497
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Speaker 2: be crashing back into the Earth, and who knows where

498
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: they're going to land, And it really could. It's like

499
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Speaker 2: winning the lottery five times in a row or something,

500
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: or whatever the crazy probability is. But still that's kind

501
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Speaker 2: of scary.

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Speaker 3: I think we're about what we're about like four to

503
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Speaker 3: six hours out from hitting the surface, like from the

504
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: from the rs Ers two hitting the surface right now

505
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: as we record, right, they didn't get sure. They didn't

506
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Speaker 3: get the re entry time right either, right.

507
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was there was a window of like three

508
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: hours that they were looking at and that would massively

509
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: change the trajectory where it would end up right once

510
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: it hit the atmosphere. Creepy stuff. And the only reason

511
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: I want to bring it up is because space X

512
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: just said that they're going to decommission like a hundred satellites.

513
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: So they're but they're going to do the same thing

514
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: because we at least according to official sources, we don't

515
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: have something like the X thirty seven B or Z

516
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: that can go up there and pull a satellite down

517
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: and then bring it back. They just have to crash

518
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: only way to get them down, or.

519
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: You could you can pop them out of the sky,

520
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 3: but only if they're yours, because we have treaties.

521
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can pop them out the sky, but then

522
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: they create the debris field that ends up not letting

523
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: anyone put any more satellites up there. So you really

524
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: do have to just roll the dice and let them fall.

525
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but hope it hits as close to the point

526
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: nemo as possible. Right, But you're right there on the

527
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: math percentage wise. I mean, it's very dirty like casino

528
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: math to say, well, there's more water, yeah, probably.

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Speaker 2: Well, and again it's a it's a huge satellite. You

530
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: can look at pictures of it online, but if you

531
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Speaker 2: do look at it, it is huge. Most of those

532
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: pieces that you can see are going to break up.

533
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: There are some pieces inside, some components that are made

534
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: out of things like carbon fiber that are more likely

535
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: to reach the surface. But that's not the main thing, guys.

536
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: The main thing the guardians over there trashing the MTA

537
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: and New York's subway as system. Well, guess what, there's

538
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: some trash going back to the UK. Sorry, guys, we

539
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: love you. This is just a story we're gonna read.

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00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: This is from BBC News Today. Quote trident missile test

541
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Speaker 2: fails for second time in a row. What is a

542
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: trident missile? Do you guys? Are we aware of a

543
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: trident missile?

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00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, they're the missiles that failed twice in a row.

545
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: I'm picturing them looking like sort of like a Neptune

546
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: trident situation. Yes, with three prongs. I don't know why.

547
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: I mean, here's the name.

548
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: It's the sub right, it's on the subs.

549
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the missile system, or it's the missile. Let's

550
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: call it the missile system. The nuclear deterrent system that

551
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: is meant to be inside a submarine and then fire

552
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 2: from the water in like in a magical way, and

553
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: then travel a long distance. I think these are ICBM

554
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: type things or I don't know, it's like that. But

555
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: it's from a ship, a sub and it's supposed to

556
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: have a nuke on it, specifically, that's what it's for.

557
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: It's supposed to nuke things and then it's supposed to

558
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: exist as it deterred to other countries with nukes because

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: you never know where the submarine's gonna be with that

560
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: trident missile on it.

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00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: You never know.

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00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, the Royal Navy attempted to fire one of these

563
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: missiles and it did not work. It literally started to fire,

564
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: it went out from the submarine and then just kind

565
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: of crashed like right here from where the submarine was.

566
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: Yikes. That could be dangerous to those on board, right,

567
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: I mean if it detonated.

568
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, But there's in these tests, there is never

569
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: a warhead according to the sources, right, the military. There's

570
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: never a nuke on any of these things. There's just

571
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: the missile itself, right, the missile body. It cost seventeen

572
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: pounds that missile that failed.

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Speaker 3: Pound sterling just because I said US dollar earlier.

574
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to just here we

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Speaker 2: go in a writtence. This is from the article, by

576
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: the way, from the BBC. In a written statement to Parliament,

577
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Grants Shapes Shaps, Sahapps confirmed quote and anomaly

578
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: did occur during the test on the thirtieth of January

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Speaker 2: this year. But let's see tried. It is quote the

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Speaker 2: most reliable weapons system in the world.

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Speaker 3: That is true. The US uses it does.

582
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Speaker 2: And the US build well, the US like builds parts

583
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: of it. And then there's a what they share I

584
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: guess the warheads the United States and the United Kingdom's

585
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: really interesting stuff. It freaks me out, guys, because the

586
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen test that the Royal Navy did also failed,

587
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: and in this instance it was the targeting something within

588
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: the actual missile itself, the smart systems in it. It

589
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: veered way off course. And can you imagine we get

590
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Speaker 2: into a point where we're launching nukes and the nuke

591
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: just malfunctions and goes somewhere else. We're already kind of

592
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: screwed at that if we're in a nuclear war. But

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00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: how is that then a deterrent? If if the enemies

594
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: of a country are the other superpowers that view the

595
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: United States and the United Kingdom as enemies, they see that,

596
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: oh they're triedent systems just messing up lately. Will you

597
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: guys notice that that feels scary to me?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: You can read all about this, guys. It's freaky.

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00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. There's also it reminds me a little bit. It's

601
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: been a it's been a great year for weird missile experiments.

602
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: The DPRK North Korea is getting a lot of Western

603
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: press because they're continued like missile launches whenever they want

604
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: to come back to the bargaining table, they'll launch a

605
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: bunch of missiles into the ocean just to show that

606
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: they still have the chops, I guess. And recently, it

607
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: reminds me, Matt. Recently some North Korean missiles were used

608
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Speaker 3: by Russia and Ukraine and they were found to contain

609
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: hearts from our friends at NATO and our friends in

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Speaker 3: the US. So in that context, right, knowing the way

611
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: this technology proliferates in that context, could argue I'm no

612
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: proof here, but you could argue that it is helpful

613
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: to make a weapon system seem that it is not

614
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Speaker 3: as capable as it is. I don't know, it's weird.

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00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. The whole psychological pursuit behind that

616
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: thing is to be like, don't mess with us because

617
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: we have this. And the last successful test that the

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Speaker 2: UK did with this system was in twenty twelve, so like,

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Speaker 2: that's a long time ago. There have been one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety successful tests of this system, which is a

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Speaker 2: lot for a really, really expensive system. But it still

622
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: freaks me out, man, because it feels like if North

623
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Speaker 2: Korea can launch all their missiles, but then we're you know,

624
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: the United Kingdom goes down and says, oh, yes, well

625
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: look at how a missile. It stinks scary. Anyway, that's

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00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: all the news that I've got. Let's take a break

627
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: and we'll be right back with more strange news.

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Speaker 4: And we've returned with one more. Why am I talking

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Speaker 4: like this? It's okay, I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Gonna I think the British stuff we were talking try

631
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: Matt Berry with it, which I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: I think you're pretty good at it.

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00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: Well, that's very kind of you, Ben, you are as well.

635
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: And this this is sort of a fun maybe is

636
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: the wrong word, but a story of nature finding a way.

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00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: It's very it's very Ian Malcolm kind of story. To

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00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: wrap up today's Trange News episode, Unfortunately, Maddy two Hands

639
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: had to pop off to do some family stuff, so

640
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: we will continue in his honor and in his stead

641
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: with a story about the little sting ray that could. Ben.

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00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you're familiar with the place in

643
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 4: North Carolina called the Aquarium and Shark Lab, which is

644
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: on Main Street in downtown Hendersonville.

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00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: Wait, there's a whole lab.

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00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 4: It says, they've got a shark lab. It's in the

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00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: Appalachian Mountains. They've got themselves a lab of some some.

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00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: We gotta go, we gotta go. That's where Matt must

649
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: have went. Obvious failed secret shark stuff.

650
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: But they house other creatures besides sharks, and that includes Charlotte,

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Speaker 4: a rust colored sting ray described by Ben Finley of

652
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: the AP as being no bigger than the size of

653
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 4: a serving platter. And this thing, Yeah, I know it's

654
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: an interesting but I guess, I guess so. Yeah, Well,

655
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: speaking of the metric system, apparently her natural habitat is

656
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: in the waves off of the coast of South California.

657
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: But she has spent the last eight years of her

658
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 4: life are actually it's not quite clear, but eight years

659
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 4: is definitely how long she's been in this particular tank

660
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: with other creatures in this aquarium, including some sharks, but

661
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: no other male stingrays. And yet, and yet, Ben, Charlotte

662
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: finds herself with child, with pups. It's an immaculate stingray conception.

663
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: We chose the wrong religion. We chose the wrong religion.

664
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlotte is apparently pregnant with as many as four pups,

665
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: according to Brenda Raymer, who is the executive director of

666
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: said aquarium and shark lab in downtown Hendersonville. She had

667
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: a really cheerful thing to say. Here's our girl saying, hey,

668
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 4: happy Valentine's Day. Let's have some pups.

669
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Speaker 3: Whew, that's wholesome.

670
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 4: It's wholesome, very wholesome. Speculation has thrived in this particular case.

671
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: Some folks really no no indication as to whether they

672
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: are members of the scientific community or not. Asked at

673
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: the very least, is it possible that Charlotte was impregnated

674
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: by a shark? The answer from the scientific community would

675
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: seem to be unequivocally no, that is not possible. It

676
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 4: would be the same thing essentially as like a bear

677
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: impregnating a wolf, or like a wolf impregnating a bear,

678
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 4: because evolutionarily speaking, stingrays diverged from sharks I think in

679
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 4: the neighborhood of three hundred million years ago, so they're

680
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 4: just not closely linked enough, you know, genetically speaking, anatomically speaking,

681
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it could not be done. So what

682
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: you may ask is the deal. We have some indication

683
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: as to what might have happened. We've heard of spontaneous

684
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: asexual reproduction, right be what was the case? What was

685
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: specifically I think it was with frogs due to things

686
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: in the water. Perhaps there's a fluoridation maybe, or maybe

687
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: that I'm just remembering the Alex Jones line. But what

688
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: was the deal where there was a story we've discussed,

689
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: maybe even more than one, where there was spontaneous asexual

690
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 4: reproduction in certain species.

691
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, primarily that'd be parthenogenesis, right, that'd be primarily female

692
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: instances of different life forms. I want to say, reptiles

693
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 3: like snakes or water dragons, can they can reproduce without

694
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 3: necessarily having a male factor in to the thing. But

695
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: I think it's it's primarily like reptiles and fish.

696
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: That seems correct. Yes, that's exactly right. But at least

697
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: that's what I have here. In another piece from Scientific

698
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 4: America on the subject by Stephanie Pappus, headline, how did

699
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: an aquarium stingray get pregnant without a mate? And Papus

700
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: refers directly to the phenomenon that you are describing, Ben,

701
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: And I'm just gonna read a little quick blurb from

702
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 4: the article here. Researchers don't fully understand why parthenogenesis happens

703
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: or what triggers it. Here's how the process works inside

704
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 4: the female's body cell division creates sex cells or gameats.

705
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: That division, called myosis, results in the egg, which can

706
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: eventually be fertilized by a sperm, and three extra cells

707
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: called polar bodies. The egg and each polar body each

708
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: contain half of the complement of genes needed to make

709
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: a new organism. In parthenogenesis, a polar body fuses with

710
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: the unfertilized egg, triggering it to form an embryo. And

711
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 4: interestingly enough, they go on in this article to say

712
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: to differentiate this is not where my mind immediately went,

713
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 4: but that this is different than cloning, because I guess

714
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: there is something in common with a process involved in

715
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 4: at least a theoretical cloning. I know that there is

716
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 4: there has there have been successful attempts at cloning, but

717
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: I believe it's something like this and it'll say lions.

718
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: Let's see, you know. Katie Lyons, who's a research scientist

719
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: at right here at the Georgia Aquarium, says this it's

720
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: different than cloning, which would create an exact copy of

721
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: the mother ray. However, in parthenogenesis, because both the egg

722
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: and the polar body only have portions of the mother's genome,

723
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 4: the babies would be less genetically diverse than their mother. Yeah.

724
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: And then it goes on talking about how in parthenogenesis,

725
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 4: some species that experience this phenomenon essentially double their genes

726
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: before they split their sex cells. A great example that

727
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: you alluded to earlier been whippedtail lizards, which belong to

728
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: the genus aspid aspidoscolis. They they actually do reproduce in

729
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: this way with great success.

730
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: Okay, if I'm recalling correctly, Noll, the the process of

731
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: arthnogenesis occurs with life forms that are female and the

732
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: progeny they have are also female. Is that right?

733
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: I think that's right. I'm not quite sure of the

734
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 4: sex component of it. But one thing that I think

735
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: we've been sort of tiptoing around, or at least in

736
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: some of these excerpts, you might be thinking, this sounds

737
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 4: a whole lot like a form of inbreeding, and boy,

738
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: is it in fact that thing lions. The researcher from

739
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 4: Georgia Aquarium very diplomatically says how some offspring that result

740
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: from this process might not be as robust.

741
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: Oh No, they might be hapsburgen.

742
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 4: They might be a little habsburg y. And she goes

743
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: on to say, you can think of them as a

744
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: highly inbred individual.

745
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: I don't love that. But there's also there's also like, Okay,

746
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: we know that this is not for any for any

747
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: of these higher order species. We know this is not

748
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: the normal path of reproduction, right, this is still an

749
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: unusual thing to happen.

750
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: It would appear, so yeah, you know, again, a lot

751
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 4: of questions circulating immediately when something like this does take place.

752
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: The pregnancy was confirmed by ultrasound, it's not exactly in

753
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: the press release that uh, you know, the sting ray

754
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: spontaneously pregnant, likely to give birth to highly deformed, inbred offspring.

755
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: They're leaning seemingly leaning away from that, emphasizing the Valentine's

756
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 4: Day ness of it all, which I can I can

757
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: get behind. And again, I don't think it's necessarily a

758
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: sure thing that there's going to be problems with the offspring.

759
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: I don't think that's what the researchers are saying. It

760
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: does appear, however, that this is something that could cause

761
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: a problem. But one one final thing to add the

762
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: lions adds to maybe again lean away from the inbreeding

763
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: aspect a little bit, is that even under the best circumstances,

764
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 4: the most quote unquote normal circumstances. The way stingrays produce

765
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 4: is already pretty unusual. Apparently, female sting rays mate with

766
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: multiple males in the spring, and then three to four

767
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: months later will give birth to pups that have multiple fathers.

768
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: How chimeric?

769
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 4: Wow, I know, isn't that wild? It says, it says,

770
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 4: and they I'm just going to quote verticle because I can.

771
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 4: I couldn't possibly paraphrase this any better. And they bathe

772
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: their fetuses and a kind of nutritious uterine fluid not

773
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: unlike mammal milk that gives them a survival boost when

774
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: they emerge.

775
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: Fascinating. Have you ever have you ever petted or pet

776
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: I guess would be the past as stingray.

777
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 4: With two fingers two in the touch in the touch tank,

778
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 4: they tell you you know what, and they can you know,

779
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: they got sting in their name, because they can. They

780
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 4: can mess you up if you get hit by one.

781
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: And in the ocean I have there was One of

782
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: these articles actually referred to something called the stingray shuffle,

783
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: which is like how you're supposed to kind of traverse

784
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: the shallower waters, you know, because it's to help you

785
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 4: maybe prevent a sting because those things that are those

786
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: barbed tails can be very very painful and confused with

787
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: the jellyfish of course, or a Portuguese man o war.

788
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 4: This is right, this is different. Everybody knows that.

789
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: Sorry you're stating we need we need to say that

790
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: stuff though, because as soon as as soon as our

791
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realist heard us mentioned stingrays, they immediately thought

792
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: about the death of Steve Verwood in two thousand and six.

793
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 4: That's right, it like got because you know, I mean

794
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 4: of I don't know that he was in Australia when

795
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 4: he met his unfortunate early end. But they can get

796
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: very very large, obviously, like we described this species of

797
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: sting ray as getting to be about the size of

798
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 4: a dinner plate, and the babies apparently are about the

799
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: size of a baseball, the diameter of a baseball. But

800
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: we know certain some species of sting ray can get

801
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: quite large. And Steve Irwin, unfortunately, you know, was stabbed

802
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: more or less like in the heart. This is my understanding,

803
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: I mean, a really dramatic end to really beloved human.

804
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: You know, I think we're all we're all fans of

805
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: his uh his nature presenting.

806
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: And such a rare way to go as well. Like

807
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: the the stingray, as we always say in any conversation

808
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: about wildlife, the stingray is not out to get you. Uh.

809
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: It's part of the shuffle is that if the stingray

810
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: senses you, it will go away. Like that's exactly right.

811
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

812
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: It's also you know, similar to bees for the most part,

813
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: aren't going to come after you. But if you happen

814
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 4: to touch one, even after they've died, it just has this

815
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: like automatic reaction where it'll it'll it'll get you. You know. Yeah,

816
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: be careful, be shuffle shuffle, shuffle around out there, folks.

817
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 4: It's cute looking too. It's a little old man shuffle

818
00:47:59,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: you know.

819
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: There. It is what I loved about him all those

820
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: years ago was his his unique gait, his careful shuffle.

821
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 4: His sting rays shuffle. It also sounds like kind of

822
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 4: like it could be like a like a surf rock

823
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: kind of dancey shuffle them the swim.

824
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So shout out to the beach boys as well.

825
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there's one thing you know, from the sources

826
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: that you pointed us to here that stands out for me. Uh,

827
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: some of the folks reporting on this, some of the

828
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: experts are saying that parthenogenesis is a reaction to adverse

829
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: environmental pressures. Right, So is a posture finds away, nature

830
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: finds a way. Is it possible then, that that humans

831
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 3: could see more instances of parthenogenesis in the wild.

832
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: I certainly imagine that it's possible, And I wonder if,

833
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 4: you know, biologically speaking, it could be considered an adverse

834
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: situation to be without a mate for that long, you

835
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like if you don't, like, you know,

836
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 4: a creature wants to reproduce, that's sort of what it's

837
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: screaming out to do. That's what life wants is to

838
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: make more life. And I could imagine much like the

839
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: Jurassic Park dinosaurs who are all bred to be female,

840
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: they wanted real bad to reproduce, and they apparently spontaneously

841
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 4: were able to do so based on some very science

842
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 4: fiction y science you know. I know, Crichton is pretty

843
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 4: well known for putting the work in you know, into

844
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: his sciencey stuff in his books. But I do recall

845
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: when the movie came out that there was a lot

846
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: of poo pooing of like, you know, I don't think

847
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 4: this will exactly happen.

848
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: Oh, right, let's get mad at the fictional story. Yeah,

849
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: let's get back Yeah, whatever, guys. Also, partner genesis is

850
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: a real thing. There is true scientific fact behind it.

851
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: There are a lot of implications about it that we

852
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: don't fully understand. But I have to ask, do you

853
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: think this Stingray was playing Roy Orbison's Only the Lonely.

854
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: I'm a little more partial to cry in myself, but Crow, Yeah,

855
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: they're both. They both play in the situation. I would

856
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 4: like to think, so, Ben, Well, hopefully doing the Stingray show,

857
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 4: there we go.

858
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: What say we make a mixtape for our Stingray the

859
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: new single mom there in what was it? Hendersonville?

860
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: Hendersonville, North Carolina?

861
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: And with this we want to hear from you, fellow

862
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: conspiracy realists. There are a lot of stories we didn't

863
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: get to today, like this might be for ridiculous history.

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Speaker 3: But Noel, as I'm sure you saw, experts had just

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Speaker 3: dropped the new president rankings. Did you see that? Oh no,

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Speaker 3: Now they got a bunch of like presidential historians together

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Speaker 3: and they were.

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Speaker 4: Any hot takes on that list.

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Speaker 3: They got some hot they got some hot takes. They

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Speaker 3: got some hot takes.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to hear Max weigh in on that, because

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Speaker 4: he's probably got his He's got his own presidential rankings

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 3: And he just texted us. So we're gonna kid, We're

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Speaker 3: gonna call it a day. We're going to be back

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Speaker 3: to be easy to find online.

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Speaker 4: Correct. You can find this at the handle Conspiracy Stuff,

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Speaker 4: Stuff Show. But wait, there's more.

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Speaker 3: He's so good with it, folks, Noel, I want to

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Speaker 3: take a second here just admire how slick you are

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Speaker 3: with that. That's a very I just it rolls off

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Speaker 3: I love it. There is indeed more. The conspiracy is real.

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