1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up? 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: What is up? 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 3: Mets fans? 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Uff Podcast, 5 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Episode number one forty seven. This should be the last 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: one where we do not talk about any offseason moves 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: because the World Series should be over by next week. 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: But we have a bunch of great stuff to talk 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: about today's episode, Plenny, we did an interview with Jay Horowitz, 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: which you guys could go check out the Amazing Mets 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Alumni podcast I believe it's called or some variation of that. 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: We're hanging out with omar Ma Andaiya today, which is 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun a. 14 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Couple of hours. 15 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Only we didn't even get halfway through. Didn't even get 16 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: halfway through, and not even close. We got Silver Slugger stuff 17 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: to talk about Buck being a nominated of the Year 18 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: justin Turner rumor maybe we'll talk about that is the 19 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: only thing, and we'll talk about the first two games 20 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: of the World Series, along with the big we you 21 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: guys have been waiting for all off season, the Minor 22 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: League breakdown. We're we're wrapping up the minor league season 23 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: here talking about everybody who had a good year out there, 24 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: and John's got some trivia for us too as well, 25 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: So you guys know the drill. 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James, I 33 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: don't have to bring in you already spoke, but here 34 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: feeling feel good. 35 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: I mean, we did that interview with Omar was nuts. 36 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: The interview with Jay last week you got chlistons. It 37 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 4: was also a lot of fun. We've very been there 38 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: parsing those out onto TikTok and instagram reels. Shout out 39 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: to Vito for making some good edits great out of 40 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: their producer video. 41 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Say hi to people vi though, first time with the mic. 42 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, thank you. 43 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: I've been having a lot of fun putting those little 44 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: instagrams and tiktoks together. 45 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean they look they're very whimsical. They're hilarious. 46 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: I like them a lot of zoom in's and jump cuts. 47 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: Yes, and funny, funny, funny little graphics. 48 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: But the TikTok's gonna be more, you know, more active 49 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: now with Vido at the helm, so you guys keep 50 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: an eye out for that. 51 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: It's been missing. 52 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Omar eventually, I don't know when's actually 53 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna come out. It's gonna be like an eight part Yeah. 54 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like a thirty for thirty just 55 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: about every single thing that happened in Mets from like 56 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: two thousand and five twenty ten, which that was. 57 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: That was like our prime of a Mets fans. 58 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: So I hope a lot of you guys were maybe 59 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a similar age, a little bit older, maybe a little 60 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: bit younger. You guys missed that era. You guys will 61 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: enjoy that a lot. But if you think nine ten 62 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: year old Mark and James ever thought they'd be talking 63 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: to omarmonya not just for like small chances, not just 64 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: like a hey, how are you? But like two hours 65 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: and now we're gonna do another couple hours being complimented 66 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: by Omarmonia. Yeah, that'd be nice. Gets stories from woman 67 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: and Iya. Yeah, that was it was. 68 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: It was pretty amazing. That was like a little every 69 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: single time we do this, like a little culmination, like 70 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: one more step forward, one more cool thing. 71 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: Cool. 72 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: At some point, you know it's gonna be great. It's 73 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: gonna be great. 74 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 75 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: Now let's talk about some Mets stuff here. At first, 76 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: Silver Slugger nominations. The Mets had a ton of them 77 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 4: because they had a really good season. A lot of 78 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: good heathers to see appropriate time to use the word 79 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: of litany. Yeah, litany, Okay, nice sat word of today. 80 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: Haven't haven't dropped that on you guys in a while. 81 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: We've been so focused on baseball when we first started 82 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: the podcast, the Mets we're not playing so well, so 83 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 4: we could just drop in those fun I say, tea words. 84 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: Now it's all baseball, but as we know, it's the 85 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: off season. So at first base, of course, the Mets 86 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: got Pete Alonzo. He's going up against gold Schmidt, Freeman Olsen, 87 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: and Christian Walker. Peter Alonso is my pick, no kidding, 88 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 4: I think Osma probably won or it's a really tough 89 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: position there. Definitely definitely third though, Yeah, definitely definitely third. 90 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: Second base. We got Jeff McNeil, who got nominated, going 91 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: up against Jake Cronworth, Guitel Marte, Colton Wong, and Brendan Rodgers. 92 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: If Jeff McNeil does not win. 93 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: This, I was gonna say he has to be the 94 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: odds on favorite Riots, right Marte even play this year, 95 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: that's crazy he's on here. He also, I think had 96 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: a bad year. I don't think even played well because 97 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: he was on My Friends Night. 98 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: He got hot and cold at times. I'm gonna get it. 99 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 4: Is that bats heere because that's just kind of ridiculous. 100 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one hundred percent of Jeff McNeil, not even five, 101 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: not even five. 102 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: How does he qualify? 103 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean five to fifty eight play appearance is 104 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: one hundred thirty seven games like that part is not crazy, 105 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: But twelve homers and. 106 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: That's two for the average. It's gotta be Jeff one 107 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: oh two w Orc plus it's probably Jeff McNeil here 108 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: a medding title and he was also cald sneak. 109 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: He had a good year. 110 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't care she should. Jeff Niel the best year 111 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: of that list for sure. Didn't get anyone at third base, 112 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: as we know shortstop we did get someone though, we 113 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: got Francisco Lindor, which that makes a lot of sense 114 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: going up against Trey Turner, Willia Domas and Dansby Swanson. 115 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: This one's close. You probably won't win it, though. 116 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: This one's probably for Turner, and then they'll probably give 117 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: dance Be the gold glove and I'll just be another 118 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: chip on Lindoors shoulders for next year. 119 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like if this was maybe like nineteen 120 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: eighty four, Franciscool and door can haven't locked up because 121 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: he drove in a ton of runs, but try turned 122 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: the higher batting average y four. I think he still 123 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: finds the way to look maybe, Okay, it'd be a 124 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: bit close. It'd be close in the outfield. A couple 125 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: of mets as well, which I like to see because 126 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: these guys definitely deserve to get some recognition. Offensively, Starling 127 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: Marte and Brandon Neimo. They going They're going up against 128 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts, Kyle Schwarber, Juan Soto, Jock Peterson, Michael Harris, 129 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Brian Reynolds, and Hunter renfro So. I think both of 130 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: those guys legit have a chance because they picked three right, 131 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: So what's the un foy has shocking the good year. 132 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I was about to chastise that pick, but he actually 133 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: played quite well this year. Yeah, no, he did. Jock 134 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: obviously had the hot start to the year. 135 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nimo, theres no reason Nimo should win that or Marte. 136 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Even I know Martine didn't you know, play at the 137 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: end of the year. 138 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: But I mean, I think Harris, Harris and Mookie is 139 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: gonna be hard to defeat. It's gonna be hard to 140 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: beat Schwarber as well. Maybe with the home runs, Yeah, 141 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: maybe get one in there. Yeah, I'd like to like 142 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: to sneak in one and outfield end as well. Jeff 143 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 4: McNeil got nominated again, this time at the utility position 144 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: because they also have a utility for Silver Sluggers, so 145 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: he could in theory, and he should based on this list. Yeah, 146 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: win two Silver Sluggers in one year, which I don't 147 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: think he's ever been done before. Everyone is so horning 148 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: for Tommy Edmond after this year, and they're going to 149 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: find a way to give him as many awards as possible. 150 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: They probably does not deserve going up against Brandon Dreury, 151 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: Edmund tyro Estrada and Chris Taylor. 152 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean, did that have great year. 153 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to chastise Admint, but I think Jeff 154 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: McGill's had a better one, especially if you just say 155 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: the play just strictly hit it, Yes, just strictly. 156 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: There's no almost no argument there. 157 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: It's gotta be. Jeff McNeil is a finalist. Yeah, had 158 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: a sneaky good year. 159 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: He had a good year. He was on my fantasy team, 160 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: as I think the bigger grape is Chris Taylor. I 161 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: don't think Chris Taylor should be anywhere close Tyrostraw. 162 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: That carried me in like my. 163 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: Deepest fantasy baseball league because he just I took him 164 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: in like the forty seventh round just base just based 165 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: on the fact that he had like really good triple 166 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: A stats last year in a great batt rate and 167 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: a very small sample and he just played every single day. 168 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: Tyro part of the great players that I was able 169 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: to pick up on the waiver wire this year to 170 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: really boost up my dynasty team in the league. I'm 171 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: in with you so absolutely. I know for sure he 172 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: had a great year. And then we got Buck show 173 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: Walter being nominated for the National League Manager of the Year. Yep, 174 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean dead grey year Gray Year. Great people out there. 175 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: Good luck to Buck. Yeah, good luck, bring another one 176 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: home for the Metals too, luck Buck, good luck Buck, 177 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: good luck, good luck Buck. And then I guess we'll 178 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: just talk about the World Series briefly, right, I mean 179 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: we should. 180 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: It was too It was unbelievable. Weekend of baseball was 181 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: a really good weekend. Like both games were good, and 182 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: but one game was good because it was a good game. 183 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 4: Another game was really good because Phillies got smoked. 184 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: Would have preferred if Dusty Baker woke up a little 185 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: bit in Game one and didn't let Justin Verlander go 186 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: out there again, because I don't like that the Phillies 187 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: were able to sneak one away when they were down 188 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: five to nothing. 189 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, for all the. 190 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: People out there, maybe aren't as closely tuned into the 191 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 4: World Series as possible. 192 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: I mean I wasn't super closely tuned in until the 193 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: World Series. 194 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: The Astros jumped out to a big lead against Aaron 195 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: Nola in the Phillies hit him well, yes, and then 196 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: Justin Verlander just kind of let them. 197 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: Bleed away, blee the way blee the White bleed away. 198 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: And I do feel like as a manager there has 199 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: to be a little bit of like a discomfort in 200 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 4: the fact that you're like, absolutely, you're your ace. 201 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: The cy Young in the American League. 202 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, the guy was one of the best pictures 203 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: in all baseball this year when the best pitchers led 204 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: in the last genration of baseball. He just is he 205 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: continues to not be able to get it done the 206 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: World Series. I think after that game, any pitcher with 207 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: at least thirty innx pitch, he has the highest World 208 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: Series ra of all time. Yes, epistically, Justin Verlander might 209 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: be the worst World Series pitcher ever. It's always something 210 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: that you almost because you're not going to take that 211 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: as bonds, like a thirty inning sample, and you can't 212 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: you almost can't believe he's still going to be this ineffective, right. 213 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like at some point you think he's 214 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: got to figure it out because he's just he's so 215 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: good and you just saw him pitch off of Tommy 216 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: John a phenomenal year. But at the same time, sometimes 217 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: guys just can't get it done in that scenario. Maybe 218 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: that's the case. I mean, we've seen with the Dodgers. 219 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: You look at the Dodgers every year and you go 220 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: they should win the World Series. On paper, that's the 221 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: best team in baseball arguably, and they haven't won a 222 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: real World Series since the eighties, so. 223 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean the old format there will have one plenty 224 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: of World Series, like all those Yankee World Series Dodgers 225 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: one half when there was eight teams in the league. Yeah, 226 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: and then one team won. One team throwing straight from 227 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: the National League to the World Series. 228 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 229 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with uh, you know, 230 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Verlander in the postseason. It's tough, but we're not an 231 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Astros podcast. We don't even have to really worry about 232 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: it too much. I want to look at it briefly. 233 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: That kind of like being able to look at this stuff, like, 234 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: go take a loft of last He's fine, Like. 235 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: What's crazy? Is he was perfect? Yeah? Nine up nine. 236 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: It felt like that was gonna be it. That's like 237 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: the curse almost too though, is that because he was perfect? 238 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: It almost gives like a false sense of security to 239 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: a manager where it's like, well, he was so dominant 240 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: and then must just be one batting, must just been 241 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: a fluke. 242 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: Here's the big thing here, John justin very lines didn't 243 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: get any whistle with a slider. 244 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: Mmm, and you all I got one with non fast 245 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: that's big. 246 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: So I think you feel like it's a magic Maybe 247 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: you saw that at time through that these pitches aren't 248 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: really biting. That could have been your inclination and maybe 249 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: only captain four or five. Then it's like it's like 250 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 4: it's respecting, Like you're gonna take justin Verland Ra have 251 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: a World Series game the fourth inning. 252 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean down to that. 253 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: The offense stopped hitting as well after they put up 254 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: completely stopped against the phil His bullpend that we know 255 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: is very hittable, So it's very hittable. 256 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: But you gotta re you gotta give credit work. It's 257 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: been awesome this whole postseason run. 258 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have. But Jose Alvarado into it. 259 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: You felt confident since I was. 260 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 4: Alvarado came back up to the major leagues after his 261 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: like sitting down. He's been incredibly effective back guy. I'll 262 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: give credits that. 263 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Gothlin's a dude. I've loved that. I'll give Ethly credit 264 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: the p teller issue. We learned how to follow through 265 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: only about four years ago. Now, if the Phillies are smart, 266 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: he'll never start another game for them. Yeah, I mean, 267 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: he's got good stuff. It's all right. 268 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: We got to talk about this for a second because 269 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: it's pretty upsetting and aggrivating. But the Phillies are like 270 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: on the doorstep winning a World Series with the Mets strategy. Yeah, 271 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: having two monsters and then the freakiest clothes you can find. 272 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 273 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 4: Just the fact that their monsters are a little bit 274 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: younger and their closer isn't is per We don't perceive 275 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: hims being as good. 276 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: Sir. 277 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 4: Anthony Dominguez has been one of the best players in 278 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: the entire postseason. 279 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: He's like really good. 280 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: So the birth of a superstar has the way it's 281 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: he comes into the game. There's almost like there's no 282 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: chance for anybody to get a hit. He made like 283 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Jordan Alvas look bad. Yeah, it's tough to make or 284 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: not look bad. I don't know, that's that part of it, 285 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: especially frustrating for me. David Robertson, though, looks very hittable. 286 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: So if you're the act, way you want David Robertson 287 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: to come in the ninth again, because. 288 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: They had him on the ropes in the tent. 289 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Historically historically bad at bat for a guy who looked 290 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: like he had zero interest in hitting. I've never seen 291 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: someone like that overtly showing they don't want to be 292 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: in a moment at all. 293 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: I was out. 294 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: I was at the Halloween party Friday night, and I 295 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: went watching the game a little bit there. 296 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: That was a Halloween party. 297 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: Great time, Halloween party. Good question, Yeah, I so I 298 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: get trying to get creative Halloween. I don't want to 299 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: buy anything. 300 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: So I listen, now, come on, absolutely not, That's how 301 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: it works. 302 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: I have this black still grobe though where sometimes like 303 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: certain concerts or even sometimes just like around my house 304 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: to be got Yeah, some once in a while Brooklyn, John. 305 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know that they did that in Brooklyn, all right. 306 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean some one time I wore with like black jeans, 307 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: like a black T shirt. It was like a formal look. 308 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: It was isolated. You've seen John, you've seen Yeah, you 309 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: don't know anything about James outside the city field, but 310 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: I so I rocked. I rocked that with whatever proper 311 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: term was used for that. 312 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: That's the one. 313 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: What's the other one? You'll be that style of white 314 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: tank top with the lines and everybody knows that's. 315 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: A little under shirt under under it was. 316 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: It was a tank top. It's like it's it was 317 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: a white undertank whatever put in the log though, I mean, 318 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: of the two options, thought that one was better. 319 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: Glad you said. 320 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: I wore that with Gray's wetpants and I had a 321 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: newspaper with me and I was a stay at home dad. 322 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: That's why it's funny. It cost you nothing, you. 323 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Know, it cost me nothing, And it was a big hit. 324 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: I was scrambling though I was gonna make it to 325 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: that party. I was scrambling for ideas and you marked 326 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: the party and he was like I'm gonna go. I 327 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: need the costume in the last seconds like I'm not coming. Yeah, whateverson. 328 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: In retrospect, it was good because we didn't have a 329 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: day on Saturday. 330 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a DA day. 331 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: But so I went after that to a bar in 332 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: green Point shout out the Twins Lounge. 333 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: It's definitely more of like a like a funky Brooklyn 334 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: bar rather than a place with like beer in sports. 335 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: And even though there is good beer there but no TVs. 336 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: So I was sitting in the corner literally by myself, 337 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: watching the game on my phone, like banging on the bar, 338 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 4: like I separated from all the people. I went I 339 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: was like, I'm gonna watch baseball for twenty minutes, and 340 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: then then I went back. 341 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: I led him as dis man. 342 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: It was just like I've never seen someone not wanted more. 343 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: David Robertson was on the rope on the right, Like 344 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: the only guy who wanted it less than David Robertson 345 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: happened to be the guy who played it. Let me 346 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: is the because Robertson wanted nothing to do with that. 347 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta shout out the Phillies in that game. 348 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: They kept You're down off the board al to only 349 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: got it hit late like they I mean, I just 350 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: guess they're playing good baseball right now, like as much 351 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: as they hate them, Like Kyle Tucker's been really credible. 352 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: He's one of the best players in baseball. 353 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: And I'm happy the lot more of the world is 354 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: starting to realize that Alex Bregman is just statistically like 355 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: the best World Series. 356 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: Player every none of them as far as their basements go. Especially, 357 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: But the Phillies got tight you when they had to, 358 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: and that that was a massive win for them to 359 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: change the entire complexion of the series. As Dominae Game 360 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: two dominated game to dominate game wasn't close. Game three 361 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: will be happening as we are currently recording this. Basically, 362 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: uh no, no, Kinderguard bounced out of this one. Sometimes 363 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: the moment's too big. You know, we can understand that. 364 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's skipped the game against the. 365 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: Mets too, just a couple games against Yeah, I mean also, 366 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: like if I'm the Phillies, like I'm not stupid here, 367 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: Like he's a guy who can only give you three 368 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: four innings Max. 369 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to. 370 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: I want to push that back until we absolutely know 371 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: we need it, especially after they did use Ragers Swartz 372 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: in relief in Game one, so they needed that extra 373 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: rain delay brain day buffer Alwaukee. I mean, hey, sometimes 374 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: you get lucky. That's Team out baseball, where Team of 375 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Destiny vibes is too much. 376 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: Right now, you. 377 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: Guys mentioned Game two. The real MVP of this World 378 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: Series so far. I'm sure you guys have seen this. 379 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: Pat Hoburg one hundred and twenty nine out of one 380 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine properly called non swung at. 381 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: The Jew, and I do believe he is the highest 382 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: scored umpire in baseball during the regular season as well. 383 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: And then in the World Series. With literally the world watching. 384 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: You to be perfect, perfect, good. 385 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: That's one of the greatest feats in baseball history when 386 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: you think about it. 387 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: Okay, harder, Yeah, none of mine. Never mind, I'm not 388 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: gonna say nope, I'm gonna hold that one. I was 389 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: gonna ask a questions. 390 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: You have one two grand slams of one inning, Yeah, 391 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: that's going down. Is probably one of the craziest. 392 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean crazy, sure, but like you need the basis 393 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: to be loaded, that's true, you're just hitting the hole run. 394 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: Pat Hoberg was one nine World Series game. 395 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: Didn't Burley have fourteen straight perfect innings. 396 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Go after his? Yeah? Say yea perfect maybe? 397 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 4: I remember you went in a little bit into the 398 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: next game with one too. That was one of the 399 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: most impressive feests that'll be right, especially on a stage 400 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: like that. And we've seen umpires like a few alter 401 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 4: series before, Like it's cool to see it pure. 402 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: Especially with barking from both sides. 403 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: There are studies about this with umpires and any referees, 404 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: like when home crowd and you know, there's a lot 405 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: of influences that impact human beings, of course, so to 406 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: not let any of that excess noise impact the way 407 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: that you are going about. 408 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: Officiating in a World Series game. 409 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: I mean I I umpired some little league baseball in 410 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: my day, and you know I pride myself as someone 411 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: who knows the strikes some pretty well. 412 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 413 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Can we so we've we've had John the ball boy. 414 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Can we get John the umpire for something we gotta 415 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: get No, not major league game, get a little league 416 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: field and let umpire. Maybe we developed our teams lace 417 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: up the cleats again. 418 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: But I wear the bubble chest protector over the s 419 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: of course you do. 420 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: You do the hold in front or just holding in 421 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: fron school because you don't want to caught in the 422 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: collar bone. 423 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: You want to have the ability to move that thing around. 424 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: We got to hear the strike call. 425 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: What do you want to hear? Strike one or two 426 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: or three? I mean, there's they're all different. One two, 427 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: give us one two three? All right, dragon, that's good. 428 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: That's strong. That's a strong call. 429 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to. 430 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I like to. That's pretty good. 431 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: And the punch, the punches, I mean we're always punching. 432 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always punch anyway. Yeah, anyway, I made a 433 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: kid cry once. Really it was a girl from our 434 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: high school's younger brother. I got very dirty looks for 435 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: every single time I ever saw. I was more of 436 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: a basketball referee than I was an umpire. I just 437 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: it was more prolific. I at one time had to 438 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: officiate through a massive brawl a fourth and fifth grade. 439 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: Elemetric. There was like there was like a man half 440 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: left in the game and I was there. The way 441 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: we set it up, always there was like an older 442 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: ref and a younger ref. I was like, oh yeah, 443 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: I was like a sophomore. I remember the time. I 444 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: think the other kid was like a college kid coming 445 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: back or even a senior, and it was just like 446 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: a chippy game. 447 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: There was like one never was like young. Basketball league 448 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: is always like. 449 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: That one big kid. 450 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the kid was just he was a big 451 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: kid and he was like he had a lot of 452 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: masks too, and he had a lot of size. 453 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: And he was getting hacked. I'm not gonna call every 454 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: one of those fouls. You can never call everyone of 455 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: those fouls. And I was getting schirprise Dad the entire game. 456 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: Rect League, Yeah, oh of course, nice. It was the 457 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: it was Rector League was the Cuyo, so it was little. 458 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: His parents were much less tame. 459 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 460 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: I mean depending on the day sometimes you never know. 461 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: We can go back and forth. But the other team 462 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: had like a very aggressive point guard. 463 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: I remember this Vid Leagues, especially because he was someone 464 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: we went to school with younger brother er oh nice 465 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: ouy yes so. And there was just a play where 466 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: they basically came to each other at the front court 467 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: like the two stars, and there was a shot and 468 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: then another kid jumped in and it was like we 469 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: were just like grabbing arms and bodies and like like 470 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: separating children. 471 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: And the crazy part but the first planing was we 472 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: didn't end the game. We didn't finish the game. We 473 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: got everyone off the court. People were pissed about that. 474 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: Greatest part about the story is a few months later 475 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: in the win in the summers, i was a lifeguard 476 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: at the town pool and I'm sitting in Westville Morial pool. 477 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: They had a beautiful water slide, one of their best features. 478 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: And I'm sitting at the bottom of the slide taking 479 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: to the bomb of the slide. It's a good slide, 480 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: great slide. I'm in the pool like lounge, and I 481 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: got my float. I'm hanging out, I got the whistle floating. 482 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: We're having a good time. 483 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: And someone comes behind me and said hey, and I 484 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: turned back and it was the dad of the big 485 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: kid from the rec. 486 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: League game and let it go. 487 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: Man. 488 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: I had to sit there for the next like fifteen 489 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: minutes because that was how long the post took. And 490 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: he charted me the whole time about rec league basketball, 491 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: his son getting not getting foul calls in January was July. 492 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: What a loser memory? Well it was. 493 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my story from from that was all 494 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: stories from officiating games. And that just shows the true 495 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: appreciation we can have for perfection of pass. 496 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 3: What a job. 497 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: What a job, And we should wrap up World Series. 498 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: I want to say one one step before we go. 499 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: Something I told Mark on Saturday that was pretty disheartening. 500 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 4: If if the Phillies do wrap this up, they do 501 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: the whole thing. I'm not gonna say the sentence, but 502 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 4: if they do finish it, this will be the third 503 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: consecutive full season of Major League Baseball that the Astros 504 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: lost the World Series to a team from the National 505 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: League East with less than ninety five wins. 506 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: If that happened, the season sounds like we're due. If 507 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: that happens, I mean, theoretically, or we really missed the boat. 508 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Either way, the third straight year. Either way, we don't 509 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: have one this year, and this will absolutely completely destroy 510 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: any dynasty that they thought they were building in Houston. Yeah, 511 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: it's like the best, this is a big dynasty, but 512 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: this is a huge teether moment for a dynasty if 513 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: they lose. 514 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: Is it not a dynasty? 515 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Like and I don't know, it's like it is in 516 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: all sense of like we understand what they've built there. 517 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: It's an impressive run, but it's definitely not dynasty. It's 518 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: not enough champions. Are the bills of dynasty when they 519 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: had that run where they kept losing every year, certainly not. 520 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: Guess history says no. Yeah, I don't know. 521 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: It's tough. I mean, like, it's so hard to get 522 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: there over and over and over and over. 523 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take I'll take what the Astros 524 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: have done. I'll take it ten times all day. But 525 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: it's just I don't think they could be concerned. 526 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: I think that this World Series, it really changes the 527 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: full perspective of how we're going to view this generation 528 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: of Astros team, even the generation of baseball in general, 529 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: because then you lose that one dominant team becomes this 530 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 4: hodgepodge of bad National League's teams that weren't the Mets 531 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: winning World Series. 532 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right, let's end it on that note. 533 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Let's end the world through your stalk on that note, 534 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: Cuz we haven't talked about the minor leagues in a 535 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, obviously, this season's over. No kidding, thanks 536 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: for that one, Mark actually months. Yeah, it's been a 537 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: really long time and it's too busy. You guys always 538 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: tell us you love to hear about the minor league 539 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: stuff whenever we talk about it, because there's not really 540 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: a great place to get a lot of this information 541 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: if you're a Mets fan. So let's go ahead and 542 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: start talking about that. I did a super super super 543 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: deep dive into all the guys that had good years. 544 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: If you don't hear us talk about a player, it's 545 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: probably because they had a disappointing year. Guys like Brett Baty, 546 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez, guys who made up to the majors. Not 547 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: gonna even talk about them. Because they made it to 548 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: the majors. You heard about them, they've done well. And 549 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: we're also not going to talk about the picks from 550 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: the past year, like Jeff Williams Kevin Prada. Just because 551 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: their samples are so incredibly small, it's not really worth 552 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: speaking about. Yet they all played well. 553 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: We should at least mention that all three of those 554 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: guys had very encouraging starts to their careers, especially in 555 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: a Mets team right now where they're really looking for 556 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: impact pitching prospects. Blade Tedwell god Rave reviewers looks away 557 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 4: from Scot fastball sly they're both look amazing. He has 558 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: that true that size of a frontline pick shoulders. Yeah, 559 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: he's a he's a big fella. So we're really excad 560 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: ab all three of those guys. Hopefully we maybe talked 561 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: to them at some point in the future or tell 562 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: you guys more about them when they play more, but 563 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 4: push those off for now. 564 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: Yes, So let's talk about Alex Ramirez, who is probably 565 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: the highest ranked prospect that we can talk about. Me 566 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: are losing a lot of guys. He might be might 567 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: be their number one possibly going into next year. I 568 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: think he's definitely number one. Yea, yeah, I think he 569 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: should be finding on how you compare him to Marisia. 570 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: But he had a really good year second year. This 571 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: was a guy that you found before anybody was really 572 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: on to the top. Shout out to you, James, tip 573 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: your cap there. Great year for f him two eighty 574 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: one average, three forty six on base four thirty six, 575 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: slugging seven eighty two oh ps. He the highest batting 576 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: average in the Mets farm system, which is a nice 577 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: little thing to you know, put. 578 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 3: It on your resume. For Alex Ramirez, who was also young. 579 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: To eighty one, was the highest batting average Mets farmsists 580 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: of guys that are actually like franciscoare like, those guys 581 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: don't really count again its actually probably wasn't even well. 582 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, those guys eventually did come 583 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: up one nineteen WRC plus which was really good, and 584 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: he saw a six home run improvement from twenty twenty one, 585 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: which is hu huge. This was a guy who was 586 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: really young, playing at a pretty high level for his age. 587 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: He's continuing to improve. Also cut the k rate down 588 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: to twenty two percent and walk went all the way 589 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: up to eight, which is nice. 590 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: That was critical for Alex Jamiroz because when you have 591 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 4: a prospect that's as tooled up as him, tools are there, Yeah, 592 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 4: the tools are insane. You really want to be able 593 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: to see play discipline comics. That's the one thing that 594 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: can really hurt these guys, and we saw some meteoric 595 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: rises of guys in single A this year. I think 596 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: about Jackson Schorio and the Brewers system, who out of 597 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: nowhere just stopped really striking out. 598 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: He started the truck out a lot. 599 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: But just like he married the power with the no strikeouts, 600 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: Ramira still is definitely behind the elite class of like 601 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: these top ten right now prospects. Is not to say 602 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: he's not someone can get there in the future, and 603 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: a big reason for that is because he caused Kray dramatically. 604 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: Yep, he jumped. He jumped the level. 605 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 4: First of all, his k rate stayed the same while 606 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: he stay out sorry the year Saint Lucie where he 607 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: played all of last year, and then the ended the 608 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: year at Hi A and Kraate was way down. 609 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: No play hit it in Brooklyn's hard, in Brooklyn's very hard, 610 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: and he didn't. 611 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 4: I mean he didn't really hit that well in Brooklyn's 612 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: only six percent better than league average in terms of 613 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: WRC plus. But just the fact he was able to 614 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: go there and not struggle, He's what twenty nineteen, he's 615 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 4: still nineteen season nineteen, so we'll play next year at twenty. 616 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: He'll reach double a twenty years old, which is that 617 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 4: kind of like elite level yep, And just comes down 618 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: to whether he can draw the walks and keep the 619 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: shrackcass down and find the power because he's still he's 620 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: still more tools than production, especially in terms of power. Yes, 621 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 4: he's got the long lever, he's got like the twitch 622 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 4: up body of like, we need to see that become 623 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 4: power one hundred percent. 624 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: And it's not just not saying can't. There's also not 625 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: no saying that it will. 626 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: I've just I don't know, I've become more I've started 627 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 4: to think prospects so much more in terms of like 628 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: data and stats in the last like year or so, 629 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: just like working with more like day at work, and 630 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: like he has a lot of what you want to see, 631 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: but we still need to see one more level before 632 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 4: we're like this guy is elite one hundred percent. That's 633 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: a complete Like everything he's put in this foundation, it's 634 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 4: everything you want to see from a guy at this 635 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: age level in production. 636 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of another prospect, we've got Ronnie Mauricio. 637 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: You guys. 638 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: Obviously, Alway's been one of the top prospects in the 639 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: Mess system for a long time. He had a pretty 640 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: decent year as well. Two fifty nine average, two ninety 641 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: six on base for seventy two, slugging seven to sixty 642 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: seven ops. That is the highest slugging percentage of his career, 643 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: which is big, huge. That also builds into the next 644 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: ats I'm gonna tell you about twenty six homers and 645 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: twenty stolen bases. 646 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: It's kind of sick for a. 647 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Guy who can be a twenty twenty guy at the 648 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: age I think he's what twenty twenty one years old 649 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: as well, He's another young buck. Most home runs by 650 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: anyone not named Francisco Alvarez in the farm system, so 651 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: that's a cool thing. Daniel Palca I think technically tied him, 652 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: but that's whatever. 653 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: John's boy. 654 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: He also had the most RBIs in the Mets farm 655 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: system and fifth most stolen bases. The problem with Ronnie 656 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: is that he doesn't walk. No, he's never gonna walk. 657 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: I think I've just accepted that he's never going to 658 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: learn how to walk. But he did cut down the 659 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: case a bit this year, so that's something to you know, 660 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: keep in mind, especially when he showed a boost of 661 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: power and. 662 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: He was able to jump a level and not seem 663 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 4: to get crushed. Yeah, that was a big deal. Like 664 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 4: the fact that Rhyn Vers he was able to go 665 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 4: to double A and be able to play good baseball 666 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: still be by the league average, still just twenty one 667 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: year old, which is still young for the level. 668 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. 669 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: And the power is real and the speed is real. 670 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: The speed's even funny because there have been some videos 671 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: going around of him in the Winter League. 672 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: He's playing for Lise. 673 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: He's playing so good by the way I got I 674 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: think he was just player of the Week of the 675 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: month or something. He just got a war there. So 676 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: he says Instagram. Ten games, two homers, five doubles, eleven RBI, 677 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: stole five bases and he has a ten sixty eight 678 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: oh ps get inside the park home run Towo's I'm 679 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: talking about because they're I like, Ryan Rizio is so big. 680 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: We've compared to the Brandon Marshall on this show before. 681 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: He's like really that large. He's think he's sixty five. 682 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: I want to say he's a huge sixty three and 683 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: he's listed at one to seventy. There's no way he's 684 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: one hundred seven. Baseball references him at two twenty two. 685 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 4: Now wow about the height sixty three Okay, still six three, 686 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: but two sixty to twenty two. That is an NFL 687 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 4: wide receiver literally, and he he has those big, long strides, 688 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 4: so when he gets going, he can really go, which 689 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: is impressive to be able to steal so many bases 690 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: without that kind of jump one hundred percent. But the 691 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 4: fact he has been able to stick a shortstop and 692 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: get at least moderately good reviews there, I think that 693 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: raised his floor. 694 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Something we've talked about. I think, no doubt there's gonna 695 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: be something here with Ronnie. I don't know what it is. 696 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: And this isn't a bold statement by any means, because 697 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: he's been a top prospect forever, but I think there's 698 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: something here with Ronnie that's cooking where you're like, this 699 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: guy's gonna be a ballplayer and he's gonna have some value. 700 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: We also just heard, just from people that we know 701 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: in the industry, and then also from everyone that's been 702 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: talking for the last couple of years, that he's been 703 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 4: in the center of a lot of trade negotiations. We 704 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 4: will know whether or not that was actually true this year, 705 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: but years past we've heard. So he's a guy that's 706 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 4: still covered and he still has a guy with a big, 707 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: big tool bag, and sometimes guys a little longer to 708 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: actually find that that's tried. 709 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: Before we get going into some more pitchers, I do 710 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: have a couple more hitters. I just want to briefly 711 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: mention here in the Prospect report. 712 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to give one more comparison. There's a lost 713 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: toy comparison. 714 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 3: Go for it. 715 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: It took O'Neill's Cruz, so he was twenty four to 716 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: make the freacht of major leagues. 717 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: I think it's a fair comparison. I think it's a 718 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 3: fair Comparisonnie. 719 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: I don't think still only think Ronnie has that ceiling 720 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: just because he doesn't have the eggs of Los season 721 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 4: O'Neill Cruz show that similar age. O'Neil Cruz already hitt 722 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: the ball one hundred and fifteen miles an hour when 723 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: he was twenty one. Ronnie is still hitting like in 724 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 4: that hundred and six hundred eight range, which is still 725 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: above average. But it's not that, but just sometimes you're 726 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: a bigger guy like that, and you just kind of 727 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: have a lot more limbs to deal with it. 728 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Takes a little bit longer. 729 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: Yep. 730 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: So now to talk about the other guy, because now 731 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: we got some I got some quiet guys that maybe, yeah, 732 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: aren't hearing too much about why Young I love this dude. 733 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: This dude's gonna be a ball player, no doubt. 734 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: Again. 735 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be MVP, All Star kind 736 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: of thing necessarily, but he's gonna be. He's gonna be 737 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: on this Mets team. At some point. We talked about 738 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: him briefly and one of our last prospect reports, there's 739 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a player. He's gonna be a player. Two 740 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: seventy average through sixty nine on base three three, slugging 741 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: seven to fifty two ops. Basically played every single level 742 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: this year. How old say he is weird? 743 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: I put it. 744 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: I think he's like twenty three, twenty three. He's twenty 745 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: three technically still twenty two, but he's gonna be twenty 746 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: three next year. He just had a really really good year, 747 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: showed a little bit of pop. Seven homers, twenty doubles, 748 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: he walks seventy times. He had the highest on base 749 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: percentage in the Mets farm system for guys that weren't 750 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: in the Dominican Summer League. 751 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: So is there a catch? 752 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he doesn't really hit for any power. 753 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty much the biggest thing. But I'm seeing here's 754 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: also he's also my size. Yes, he's five to seven 755 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: point eighty five, a little thicker than me. But yeah, 756 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: he's he's a ballplayer's wall r at thirteen percent of 757 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: the time struck out under twenty percent. There's something there. 758 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: There's any plays, second, short and third base, utility guy definek. 759 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: He's like something there. Seems like a guy who is 760 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: probably very useful at some point for any team. We 761 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: had a couple other guys I want to mention too. 762 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: Omar de los Santos. Now, this guy is a weird 763 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: story because he was a twenty two year old playing 764 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: in Saint Lucie but kind of had a sick year. 765 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Uh take that for what it is, playing way above 766 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: his age, but he had a two seventy two average 767 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: with a three thirty nine on base seven ninety eight ops. 768 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: He's still seventy bases this year at a ball kills 769 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: seventy as tied for the most of minor league baseball. 770 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: And stealing bases at that level because the rules were 771 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: a little bit different. They have the pickoff rules actually 772 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: coming to the midor League next year. We're only allowed 773 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 4: three throws over something like that. Yeah, And I don't 774 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: know if they have the big bases or not, but 775 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: it's almost like it's almost like a test in baseball 776 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: acumen if you can dominate that level just on the 777 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: base pass Like, I am better than these guys at 778 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 4: this thing, and I will use that advantage completely to 779 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: the fullest. 780 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. So cool to see that stole seventy bases with 781 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: sixteen homers, twenty three doubles and five triples. 782 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's some raw talent there. Again, same 783 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: thing a lot of these guys. 784 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: You'll be hearing that about last two Guys'm gonna mention 785 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: here on the offensive side before we start, you know, 786 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: talking about pitchers in Arizona Fall League. Jesus Bayez is 787 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: going to be the hot international prospect that the Mets 788 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: have this offseason, eighteenth according to Baseball America. He's a 789 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: seventeen year old, probably gonna end up playing third base 790 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: because of his size, but he has really good power. 791 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: And really good arm. And he had a good fifty 792 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: four games in the Dominican Summer League seven homers, nine doubles. 793 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: Good, good little year. 794 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy as early list is one hundred and eighty 795 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: punds a seventeen year old. Yes, And what's crazy is 796 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: he can still grow because he is a child. 797 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen, Yeah, he can get. 798 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: He could be six feet by next time we're talking 799 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: about him. He could be that right now. 800 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: You really could be. 801 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know the last time they measured Jesu 802 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: spay Is. It was very cool, though. You'd like to 803 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: see just those tooled up guys that are in the 804 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: system to try and you know, make the move to 805 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: the next level one hundred percent. And the last guy 806 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: that I found out about today just doing some research 807 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: and watching videos, I'm super excited about is William Lugo. 808 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: This guy is gonna be my weirdo to watch out for, 809 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: just like you haven't heard about him. But remember though 810 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: Mark's weird though the watch Yeah, remember you heard it 811 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: here first on the METSA podcast. William Lugo, the dude 812 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: hits I put expletives in the notes, but he hit 813 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: seeds the eggs of Vilos are approaching one hundred and 814 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: ten on balls that I could find, and I was 815 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: not really looking that he is. Where did I put 816 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: his age? I put his age somewhere, Did I not? 817 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: He's like twenty? I think, oh he is twenty. He 818 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: is twenty years old. And I'm giving him a lot 819 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: of comparisons to Mark Vento's because their build, their size, 820 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: their entire thing is very similar. Vento's is drafted as 821 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: a short stop. This guy was supposed to be a 822 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: short stop. He's a third baseman because he's six foot three, 823 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: two thirty. He's an absolute unit and he hits the 824 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: ball really, really hard, playing one hundred and twelve games 825 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: this year, mostly between Saint Lucy in Brooklyn. Fourteen homers, 826 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: twenty five doubles, sixty three RBIs, seven to eighty oh 827 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: ps one to twenty one WRC plus he's so incredibly strong. 828 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: I think I think we could be seeing a Viento's 829 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: like trajectory for a guy like this. 830 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: Where they get him from. I don't know where he's from. 831 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: He's an international okay, yeah, yeah, international prospect, So in 832 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: terms of hitting, those are the big names I really 833 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. We have some other guys that 834 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: are in the Fall League that we'll mention too later, 835 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: but I know we want to talk about a little 836 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: pitching too, because James has a he's a pitching whisper. 837 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: I tried to and Luka actually got a million dollar bonus. Okay, 838 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, Yeah, okay, that's something there. 839 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on William Lugo. Yes, I want to 840 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: talk about your boy, Ziegler. I didn't want to talk 841 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: about boys. 842 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: Ziegler a Canadian boy. 843 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't even know if he's my boy. 844 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: He's just becomes such like a popular pitcher at this 845 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: point where it's almost like we he seemed to be 846 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: the guy that the Mets were hesitant to do anything 847 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: with and the off season a trade dead line because 848 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: it seems like a lot of potential in him. This year, 849 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: pitch the whole year at Saint Luci's sixteen stars, forty 850 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: six two thirds innings, pitch thirty five percent of strikeouts, 851 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: eighteen percent. 852 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Walks, which is a little bit high. 853 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: He's also someone who didn't exactly have the most traditional 854 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: baseball back ground, so I'm sure he's still trying to 855 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: refine the command especially because he has very very very 856 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: very active fastball and Slyther, which is his whole calling card. 857 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 4: He's even a smaller guy, but does the specs on 858 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 4: those pitches got him drafted in the second round, which 859 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: is even a bit ambitious. 860 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: I believe people thought at the time. 861 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: Just having those two pitches, I mean, Ziegeler has a 862 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: floor of being at least at least a very good 863 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 4: reliever at some point, and the ceiling is still if 864 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 4: he can harness those two completely and even add possibly 865 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: another one, even possibly not, because we've seen a lot 866 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: of starters and that come to the league with just 867 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: those two pitches. 868 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: As long as it's those two pitches and you have 869 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: the very active fastball and the darthing Slyther, you can 870 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: do it. 871 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: I think Ziegeler is a prospect who he's probably still 872 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: a year away from being considered like a top one hundred. 873 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: This yuy I still walks so many guys, and he 874 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: still he. 875 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: Still doesn't have like a starter's build necessarily is still 876 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: concerned with how much he holds up over time. But 877 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 4: he's a guy who, like you can't watch his stuff 878 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: and not be excited about what he could possibly have 879 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 4: live Arm, Yes, very live arm. Another couple of guys 880 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: who I am excited about, A couple excited about in 881 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: different ways. Once Mike Vassel, who statistically was the most 882 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: impressive Mets pitcher in the minor leagues this year. He 883 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: won the Mets Minor League Pitcher of the Year award. 884 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: He threw seventy one and thirds innings, three five VRRA, 885 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: one seven to nine whip which for a guy he 886 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: was Saint Lucie and then to Brooklyn. It's a very 887 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 4: good season. Twenty nine percent strikeouts, nine percent walks. Invited 888 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: to the Arizona Fall League. Through twelve innings there three 889 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: six five VRA, twenty three percent strikeouts and fourteen percent walks. 890 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: But that small sample, small sample, but you know. 891 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: The walks and strikeouts, those will be a little bit 892 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: more indicative of a small sample, but probably a little 893 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: bit better of competition, and he was facing the minor 894 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: league season. He's someone though, who I still think might 895 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: wind up profiling. 896 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: This is more of a reliever. 897 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 4: He dropped out of the eighth round in the draft 898 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 4: two thousand and twenty one. He could have been a 899 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: first round pick, but it just he doesn't have exactly 900 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: like he doesn't really have the fastball that you cover 901 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: it as a starting pitcher. 902 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: It's it's really hard to get drafted high so out 903 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: of coming out of high school would have been but 904 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: he because he has the velocity. Yes, he has the velocity. 905 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: It's just he ended up falling a little bit too 906 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: because the COVID year killed him. He was a rigent 907 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: right get injured in college as well, but he just 908 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: everyone knows that there's something there. 909 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, fine, his Slyder's impeccable. 910 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: And it seemed like that this that the mess were 911 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: really looking for sliders in that draft twenty twenty one, 912 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: but they just took as many pitcher as they could find. 913 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and his Slyder's amazing. 914 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: That slytherer is a pitch that is gonna keep them 915 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 4: on top of his prospect list forever, possibly drag him 916 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: to the major leagues one day. But the fastball, it 917 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: isn't getting the whiffs that I don't think that thought 918 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: it would get yet. And that's something that could definitely 919 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: still be developed, something that could change a little bit, 920 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: maybe something that moves to a color or two seam 921 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: or a sinker at some point, but it's not it's 922 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 4: more of a runner than a Ryther, and with a 923 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: guy with that kind of velocity sometimes that leaves a 924 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: little bit on the bone in terms of development. One guy, though, 925 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: who I think has the fastball to get into the 926 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 4: major leagues one day is Dominic Hambell, third round pick 927 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: of that same twenty twenty one draft for the Mets 928 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: to him Ziegler and Vassal tBu. 929 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: He went to a he did a little Juco thing 930 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: as well. 931 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: I think he went to Yavapaie, which is a Juco 932 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: powerhouse as well. Yava Pie. Yes, are you sure to 933 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: pronounce that right? 934 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 935 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: Yava Pie, yav a pie. It's why a Hebrew a 936 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: p ai. It really sounds Hebrew, Okay, I don't know. 937 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: I think it's Arizona, California, one of. 938 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: Those with twenty five appearances between Saint Lucian Brooklyn, but 939 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 4: the one hundred and ninteyendings on which is really good. 940 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 4: That's another reason why I think he does have a 941 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 4: little bit more of this uh stars built. 942 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: I think he's a bigger guy also than vassal End Ziegler. 943 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: He's got another big shoulders. Yes, yeah, you get and 944 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: you get the legs that the hips. The pitcher's hips 945 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: to thirty percent strikeouts, eleven percent walks, one point one 946 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: to five whip He he just I think he's the 947 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: guy who has the best chance to have multiple pitches. 948 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: His slider is very good, and the curveball and the 949 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: change up are coming on. The curveball flashes more in 950 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 4: the changeup has but his fastball has the physics that 951 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: you want a fastball. The fastball rise, it rises or 952 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 4: appears to be rising, it rides, basically when you throw 953 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 4: a four seam fastball and you get a lot of 954 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: backspin on it, so the piers like it's coming up 955 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: on the hither and it kind of even makes the 956 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: pier faster at times, and he has good excentria, so 957 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 4: it gets on him. 958 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: But he gets whiffs. 959 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: And the biggest thing we see the difference between pitching 960 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: prospects starting pitching prospects who make it and they hang 961 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: on that Starl's line depending on the ones that fall 962 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: off become relievers, is getting whiffs with your four seam fastball, 963 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: and his loss isn't even as good as fastals or Ziegler, 964 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: not that the physics are better. And that kind of 965 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 4: reminds me of a guy he's not even as big, 966 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 4: but a guy like Zach Gallen, who he had the 967 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: elite pitches and the fastball, even though it didn't look 968 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 4: that great. It kind of kept him under rated as 969 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 4: a project for a very long time, but it's what 970 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: dragged him the major leagues. Of course, Gallen also has 971 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 4: incredible command and the curve ball developed more than anybody 972 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 4: could have. 973 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: Massed Strom really helped him out too. Yeah, press would 974 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: be nice, but he was good before Ben Staum. 975 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 4: No, I know, I know, but I'm saying he took 976 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 4: him to the next live fact that he was able 977 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 4: to get with in the zone with a four seam 978 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: fastball without a lead velocity and without elite size, that 979 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: is a very big deal. And I think Dominic Hamill 980 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: is the guy who I'm looking at from this crop 981 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: of Mets pitchers who's a little bit underrated right now, 982 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 4: a little bit unheralded, and who could really be a riser. 983 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's good. 984 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: I got you're talking about unheralded guys. I got a 985 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: couple unheralded pitchers that I did some research on as well, 986 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: that I feel like are super super interesting in this 987 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Mets farm, system, which at times is talked about is 988 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: not really having any pitching depth. So one of the 989 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: guy's gonna be Keyshawn ask you Shaw, ask you, tenth 990 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: round pick out of Clemson twenty twenty one lefty. Did 991 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: we see him at the Fall League or in Brooklyn? 992 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: I think Brooklyn? I think, well, actually I don't think so, 993 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: because I think he was in Brooklyn this year. I 994 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: think we've seen the name around. Yeah, maybe we're We're 995 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: watching the Mets minor leagues a lot. But Keishawn ask 996 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: you has been really really good this year. Tell us 997 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, So in eighteen appearances, eight starts, five 998 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: appearances in Brooklyn for them, starts sixty six and the 999 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: third innings thirty four percent, K eight ten percent, walk rate, 1000 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: walk rate, whip at like one basically one point zero 1001 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: seven fish with an ERA under two five, which is great. 1002 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: And then I saw a crazy tweet from Michael Mayer 1003 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: back in August that he faced eighty left handed hitters 1004 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: by August twenty fourth, and he struck out forty of them. 1005 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: If you watch him pitch, he looks like kind of 1006 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: Oliver Perezi with his arm slot and everything. Six four 1007 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: one ninety promising for sure. Do you know where he 1008 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: went to college? 1009 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: Clemson? 1010 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: I know, I really it really hurts me to give 1011 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: anybody from Clemson any sort of props. 1012 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 4: But it was cool though that a guy like that 1013 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 4: came out of college. And I know he has a 1014 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: plus slyther and he's is he a guy who throws 1015 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: from like a no. One of these he throw he 1016 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: throws like kind of here, he doesn't. It's weird when 1017 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 4: he six for four. You think he would fight more, 1018 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: but he he's more of like that side arm three 1019 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: quarter slot. All right, So I mean, like think of 1020 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: Oliver Prez. I feel like they look really similar. And 1021 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: it's been sinker to Samer sly that's it's a good 1022 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: way to get to the major leagues quickly. 1023 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: Another guy that's really interesting is gonna be Grant Hartwig, 1024 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: which I feel like, John, you've brought that name up 1025 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: to us before a. 1026 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: Few times during the regular season. That is correct. 1027 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: Grant Heartwig's had a really interesting year. He was signed 1028 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: out of Miami of Ohio as a twenty four year old, 1029 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: so he was not drafted six five, two thirty five. 1030 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: This dude's a unit. 1031 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: Was that the twenty twenty draft that was a short one. No, 1032 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: I think it was after twenty twenty one. I think 1033 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: they signed him, or maybe even after this year. I 1034 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Whatever. It was six for' five two thirty five. 1035 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: And he has been nasty and relieved this year. And 1036 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: he pitched at every level thirty nine appearances, fifty six 1037 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: and two thirds innings, one point seventy five r A 1038 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: whip at one point zero nine, thirty five percent K 1039 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: eight ten percent walk rate, pump in mid nineties, struggled 1040 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: in the airs on a fall league so far, but again, 1041 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: you're a reliever, you have one bat outing and your 1042 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: fall leagu's ruined. Yeah, I mean he was undrafted two 1043 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: and twenty one. That's pretty unbelievable. Yeah, I value out 1044 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: of a guy that nobody wanted. I mean it's pretty impressive. 1045 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean it just sounds like it's like a guy 1046 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: who's high. Probably they reached the major league as reliever 1047 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. It's a big deal. Saw a big reliever. 1048 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: Brian Bryce Monta ste Oka got a shot this year. 1049 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: That's been finding some big guys, Like I say, I 1050 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: feel like there's also. 1051 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 4: A thing that's kind of been proliferated more in the 1052 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 4: last few years where teams are specifically like, you're gonna 1053 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 4: be a reliever and we know it right now, yes, 1054 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: because I feel like traditionally it was like you're a 1055 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 4: star there and you're not gonna be starting anymore, and 1056 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 4: now you should be a reliever. 1057 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: Well, there's one guy that I want to talk about 1058 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: too as well. There you go, Eric orse Orse or 1059 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: done this so many times. I think his pronunciations on 1060 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: it's orsy okay. Eric Rsey. He is a guy who 1061 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: could be in the bullpen next year and making immediate impact. 1062 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: Like we brought Drew Smith a lot this year as 1063 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: being like a guy who was ended up being really 1064 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: really valuable in this bullpen, but he started off the 1065 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: year as like, oh, he's gonna be like the captain 1066 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: of the backup squad basically in relief. And I think 1067 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: Eric Rsey has the potential to do that. We've talked 1068 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: about him before, fifth round pick out of the University 1069 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: of New Orleans. You know what I didn't know about him? 1070 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: Dude beat cancer twice? 1071 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 3: What twice? 1072 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: And I think it was in the same year, which 1073 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: is insane. He had particular cancer in twenty eighteen, beat 1074 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: it then got skin cancer later that summer. Beat it. So, 1075 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 1: I mean, the dude's a fighter to say the least. 1076 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: And he's a really really really good pitcher. Fifty innings 1077 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: this year, thirty three percent k rate, six point seven 1078 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: percent walk rate. That's the best kate to walk ratio 1079 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: in the Mets farm system. The one weird thing is 1080 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: that he gets hit hard and gives up nukes. I 1081 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: can't wrap my head around it. 1082 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: But I mean, I mean that makes sense, you know, 1083 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 4: I mean, but he doesn't, like that's the hal He 1084 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 4: missed all the bats and the one time they hit 1085 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 4: it it ghost. 1086 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: He has. He had like a two k or home 1087 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: run per nine this year, which is like insane and 1088 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: like high hits. But called that statistically insignificant. Yeah, because 1089 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: when you see thirty three percent krate in six percent 1090 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: walk rate, I'll take that all day, all day. 1091 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: Really good splitter. 1092 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: One one thing about Orsi and I actually got to 1093 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time with him in spring training 1094 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: last year. The nicest dude, the most focused dude, the 1095 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: most humble dude. 1096 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, you know. 1097 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 2: He loves to hear about other people's stories and their 1098 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: battles and talk about his own and so open about it. 1099 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 2: But when it comes to baseball and baseball secondary with 1100 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: Eric Rzy, if you look at his twenty twenty one stats, 1101 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: that home run to fly ball rate was much lower 1102 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 2: than it was in twenty twenty two. There's a middle 1103 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: ground there that things are probably going to even out 1104 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 2: at some point. 1105 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1106 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 2: No, it's an unsustainable home run rate that he had, absolutely, absolutely, 1107 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean it's impossible not through it for 1108 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: Eric Horsy and like you said, definitely a guy that 1109 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: could be making an impact here at Cityfield next year. 1110 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: I can't wait for that because I mean, every met 1111 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: fan should be a Eric Corsey's corner. 1112 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get shirres you when he comes up. Oh, 1113 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. 1114 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: No, he's a beast, and hopefully we'll have him on 1115 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: the podcast next year when he gets his call up, 1116 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: because I'm assuming, no, I don't think so, I don't know. 1117 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1118 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: He told me you loved New Orleans, though, there we go. 1119 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 2: He went from New Orleans to Brooklyn. Yeah, that's pretty crazy, 1120 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: crazy different. Also specified from the Orals to Corney Islands. Yeah, 1121 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: is a little different, a little different than most of Brooklyn. 1122 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: Last picture guy that I want to mention as a 1123 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: guy who's not on the radar of anybody. It seems 1124 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: like right now, Jeffrey Cologne. I want you, James, when 1125 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: you get a chance to take a look at him. 1126 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1127 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: Been in the Mets organization since twenty eighteen, turns twenty 1128 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: three next week. He spent this year with Saint Luci 1129 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: and Brooklyn. Nineteen appearances, seven starts, seventy two and two 1130 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: thirds innings. Really really good year. Quietly so, I asked 1131 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: Jacob Resnick, shout to Jacob Bresney. Yeah, no, I DMed him. 1132 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: If you guys don't follow him, make sure you do 1133 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jacob underscore. Resnick asked him about Keshawn. 1134 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: Ask you and Jeffrey Cologne, because I can't find anything 1135 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: on cologne. He said, coloone s it's about mid nineties. 1136 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: He's not sure what his off speed is. It looks 1137 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: very slurvy, because sometimes it looks like a curve, sometimes 1138 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: it looks like a slider. That's what I say about 1139 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: his pitches. But the numbers are there, two four eight 1140 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: r under one whip on the year. Well, maybe that's 1141 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: what the Mets are trying to teach now. That little 1142 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: sweeper thing. Yeah, and I will say this too, I 1143 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: wasn't sure whether or not he was a starter or reliever. 1144 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: That was also still up for debate because of how 1145 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: many appearances he made. He started a big game for 1146 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: the Cyclones late in the year through seven innings put 1147 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: them into the playoffs. That game that they won, he 1148 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: pitched seven things. I think he struck out eight and 1149 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: gave up like a hit and a walk. They made 1150 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: it to the playoffs because of that. Dude has some 1151 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: life on it fastball. I think Jeffrey Coloon's a guy. 1152 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep an eye out. 1153 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 4: For life on the fastball. It's the whole thing, is 1154 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: what it's all about. There's one picture I want to 1155 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 4: talk about that we talked about a lot last year. Yeah, 1156 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: who was a rising star on your organization. Joel dz 1157 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 4: who he ran in some trouble this year getting bumped 1158 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 4: up to Saint Lucy. I think he was still only 1159 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 4: eighteen years old, so he's wildly used to Yeah, yeah, 1160 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 4: child and also even only it's not even a big 1161 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 4: guy things like six ones. 1162 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so he he is. 1163 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: He has a curveball that's like almost plus like major 1164 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 4: league style right now, like it just it not. He 1165 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 4: used that picture completely annihilate the DSL. Some of the 1166 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: best stats we've ever seen him met have down there, 1167 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 4: and it was still very effective in Saint Lucy. But 1168 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 4: his fastball is lagging him behind. Somehow he got more 1169 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 4: ticks on it velocity wise, okay, and he still wasn't 1170 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 4: able to miss bass with it though. I think it's 1171 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 4: just like one of those like just Plano fastballs. 1172 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1173 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 4: Probably, So it seems like there's gonna be a you 1174 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: know what, every single person in the Mess organization, they 1175 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 4: seem to love him. You guy's development loves loves Joel ds. 1176 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: He's very poised, he's very focused, very motivated. He's still 1177 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 4: incredibly young for as far and how good he's been 1178 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 4: so far. But he's gonna be now one of these 1179 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 4: great development hurdles. That's probab probably one of the joys 1180 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 4: of this whole industry to get this guy to get 1181 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 4: past his one hump and get to the next level. 1182 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: And people didn't think he developed more velocity, and he 1183 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 4: already did in the last two years without growing, So 1184 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 4: maybe there's even a couple more ticks in there. Maybe 1185 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 4: in the ninety three, ninety four becomes ninety five to 1186 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 4: ninety six. 1187 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 3: Next year's working. 1188 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 4: It was just ninety one ninety two, and we have 1189 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 4: so many ways to improve Velossie at this point. But 1190 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 4: he's a guy who I think need an update because 1191 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 4: he did struggle this year. Didn't really get many strikeouts, 1192 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: gave up a lot of the hard hit balls, and 1193 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 4: walked plenty of guys at sam Luci for sure. 1194 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: For sure. And then to wrap up this minor league 1195 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: thing here real quick for you guys, just to mention 1196 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: some of the guys in the Arizona Fall League, we 1197 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: have Stanley Conswegra. 1198 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 3: I believe I'm pronouncing that right. 1199 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: I think you want to just say Consuela, Okay, yeah, 1200 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: take the gut sound like that. He's an interesting player. 1201 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: Twenty one years old. He really hasn't been able to 1202 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: play a lot because of injuries in the past. He's 1203 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 1: finally been healthy somewhat this year out in the Arizona 1204 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: Fall League. Big Pop apparently has the best arm in 1205 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: the entire outfield system for the Mets, according to Baseball America. 1206 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 3: Just keep an eye on him. 1207 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: He has athleticism in all the physical tools to do things. 1208 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: Now he just has to be able to put it 1209 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: out on the field, which is tough when you've been hurt. 1210 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: For the last three years. Christian Scott from the University 1211 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: of Florida seems like he's going to be a relief pitcher, 1212 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: probably for the Mets. Yeah, big boy, good stuff since 1213 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: mid nineties. He's currently starting in the Fall League, which 1214 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 1: is probably just more so to stretch him out because 1215 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: he didn't get a lot of innings, but keeping out 1216 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: for him. And then the last few guys, Kevin Kendall, 1217 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: Troy Miller, Brandon mcelwayne, who's used to be actually a 1218 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: quarterback at the University of South Carolina. 1219 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 3: While I was there, he. 1220 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: Started, He was a starting quarterback. He's played as a freshman. 1221 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: Is it Jim's kid? No, no, no, As a freshman 1222 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: he started games for the University of South Carolina. Let's 1223 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: just say this, he's a much better baseball player than 1224 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: he was a quarterback. It's South Carolina. Macawayn DeepC fisherman. Yeah, 1225 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: the legendary, legendary fisherman could have been a first round 1226 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: pick coming out of high school. 1227 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 3: Brandon Macaway. 1228 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: Fun fact, I like that by the dip, Yeah, by 1229 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: the dip Luke Ritter and Franklin Sanchez. Not a lot 1230 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: on these other guys though. The Fall League is kind 1231 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: of not really been a big priority. It seems like 1232 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: for the Mets right now, there haven't been a lot 1233 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: of guys getting a lot of action because there's so 1234 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: many guys you have to swap in and out. Jordan Wall. No, 1235 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: there's no Jordan Walker, so uh, superstar take that for 1236 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: what it is, and I think that will be the 1237 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: end of our minor league wrap up here. They also 1238 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 1: they knew we weren't going this year, so you don't 1239 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: want to send the big guys. 1240 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I and we had Baby. 1241 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, who could talk to baby last year? I mean 1242 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: I would have loved to talk to some guys. 1243 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,959 Speaker 3: But oh for sure, everyone. 1244 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 1: Busy men, busy men, you got a job now, James 1245 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 1: and capitalist James said, now to wrap up this episode, 1246 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: John hasn't been here in a long time. 1247 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 4: John's a Fairweather podcaster officially, Yeah, I got John take 1248 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 4: it to the Rann Show for three. 1249 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes held first before from an Island fan. No, I 1250 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: mean I mean you have to, we have to, we 1251 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: have to work to you can't make any enemies. Yeah, 1252 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean John definitely doesn't have a job with the 1253 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: Mets besides working with. 1254 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: Us on the podcast or anything like that. For thirty 1255 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 3: one NHL teams, I don't know. 1256 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 2: For the Devils though, I'll be honest about that. There's 1257 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: how many NHL teams are really Vegas and Seattle two. Okay, Well, 1258 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: that's trivia for me for a few years. Okay, that 1259 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 2: that is some trivia for me, and I think that's 1260 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 2: a good way to segue into your trivia, John. 1261 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that for us. Yeah, well, it's World Series time. 1262 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: Obviously in fourtionally our team isn't in it, but World 1263 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: Series is still a great time of the year. What's 1264 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: it called when all four sports leagues is. 1265 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: Going to once we talked about we just talked to corn. 1266 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 3: It's like that. I was going to call it the 1267 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,439 Speaker 3: the Nexus something else. It's the I was just thinking 1268 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 3: about this, you. 1269 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: Know, I you know, I have no clue. 1270 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 3: It's ourt to the sea, but I don't know. It continued. No, 1271 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. 1272 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we got all sorts of ideas, but anyway, 1273 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 2: that's this time of the year and it's a great 1274 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 2: time of the year. 1275 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was thinking, Hey, estimate sports equin sports equin. 1276 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: There you go. 1277 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, we had you guys do the estimate, which, 1278 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: by the way, we are going to have the payoff 1279 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: for that coming up soon. Oh don't don't worry. Oh 1280 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 2: don't worry. I'll be officiate. I'm getting the stripes out nice. 1281 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, figured a little trivia always fun. We'll do 1282 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 2: World Series theme this time. Maybe we'll make this an 1283 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 2: off season things. So I'm gonna ask you guys ten 1284 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 2: non Mets World Series questions. Then I have ten Mets 1285 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: World Series questions for you. So what we're gonna do 1286 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 2: is questions. If you guys know the answer, just shout 1287 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: it out right, you get a point. If you get 1288 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: it wrong, you got a minus one. 1289 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 3: Ooh okay, penalties. Alright, So here we go. We're shouting. 1290 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: We're not slapping. We're just shouting. Just shouted. Okay, and 1291 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 3: uh yeah, veto Taylor over there if you want to 1292 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 3: be a ref, and you know we might have. Taylor 1293 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: is busy with the cameras doing a great job. All right, 1294 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 3: here we go. 1295 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 2: Question number one, who was the first World Series between 1296 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: in nineteen oh three? 1297 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: Oh geez, that's not correct. 1298 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: That's not correct either. Okay, I'm worth guessing, so I 1299 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: just straight. 1300 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't have a clue out on 1301 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: that one. Out on that one, all right? The Boston 1302 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: Americans and the Pittsburgh Pirates never in my life would 1303 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 2: have Yes. 1304 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: I want to start your. 1305 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: Guys off with an easy one. Oh yeah, an easy 1306 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 2: one to get a number two. What picture has the 1307 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 2: most World Series victories all time? 1308 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:57,959 Speaker 1: Ooh? 1309 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just gonna give you a clue. Yeah, you 1310 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: gotta think Yankees? Okay, yeah, Don Larson? 1311 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 3: No minus one? 1312 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: Damn, I might as well throw a guest. 1313 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: Now. Was Donlrson a bunch of Cummings? No minus one? 1314 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 3: For both of you guys? 1315 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's what I thought it was. I don't 1316 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: why I mix them up with Don Larson. 1317 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: That's all right, you through the perfect game. What player 1318 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 2: has the most World Series hits all time? 1319 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 3: Yogi? Correct? Oh that was a good guess. 1320 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: That was smart. Yep, that was smart. Back to zero, baby, okay, alright? 1321 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 3: Question four? No, question three? 1322 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 2: The World Series was canceled two times in baseball history. 1323 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 2: What were those two seasons? Oh? 1324 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: What yearheen? Ninety? 1325 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 3: This is the easy one. 1326 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: Oh, that's ninety four. 1327 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 3: That's one of that. 1328 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: I know that. 1329 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 3: What's the other one? I don't know the other one? 1330 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 3: There had to be like a war. There was no war. 1331 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: I know the range. I just I don't want to 1332 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: guess and lose the point. Give me half a point. Yeah, 1333 00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you half the point. 1334 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 2: I'm just going to call it out a void sort 1335 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: of like us mark things. 1336 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: Half of points. Good, now, I'll give them half a point. 1337 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 3: All right? 1338 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 2: Well, the other the other one was nineteen oh four 1339 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: the New York Giants. They protested and they were like, 1340 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 2: we're not we're not showing ever. 1341 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't there another strike shore when you're in 1342 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: the eighties. 1343 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 2: There was a split season maybe one. But they played 1344 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 2: the World Series? Okay, question number four. Kyle Cubbs won 1345 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 2: the World Series in twenty sixteen. 1346 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 3: As we know. 1347 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: Prior to that was nineteen oh eight. Who they beat 1348 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: nineteen oh eight, Oh, New York Yankees. 1349 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: No, okay, Boston Red Sox. 1350 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 3: No, so that nullifies it was the Detroit Tigers. 1351 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 2: Okay, alright, the Tigers. What team currently has the longest 1352 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 2: World Series drought? Cleveland Guardians Direct. Let's go one and 1353 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 2: a half to one. Nice, nice, nice, I'm on the board, baby, 1354 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: all right, this one's gonna be a tough one, and 1355 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't even know how we're going to really officiate it. 1356 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 2: But name the active franchises that have never won a 1357 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 2: World Series. 1358 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 3: That's one. I don't need to buzz in. 1359 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: You've been doing it, Andrews, Yes, Texasres Yes, uh, Cleveland, No, 1360 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 2: I don't say that one. 1361 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 3: How about the. 1362 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners. 1363 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I think there's two more. I don't don't know. Yeah, 1364 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 3: there's two. I haven't heard you guys say you haven't 1365 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 3: heard a say? Maybe you did. 1366 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: How about the Tampa Bay Rays? 1367 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 3: That is one? 1368 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: Yes, And I was surprised by it. But then I 1369 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 2: thought of that and I was like, yeah, no, they 1370 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 2: haven't won World Series. 1371 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 3: How about the Milwaukee Brewers. Yeah, I actually got a 1372 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 3: point for that. I had more answers. 1373 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I think we sat three. 1374 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 3: I had four. Their excuse me, I had four lewers. 1375 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 2: That's that's a tough one. They've only been to one 1376 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 2: World Series. That's kind of crazy. Twenty eighteen. They did, okay, 1377 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 2: point to mark what picture was on the mound when 1378 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 2: the Red Sox ended their curse. 1379 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 3: In two thousand and four, Okay, that's correct. Bonus who 1380 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 3: made the last out for the Cardinals that year. I'm 1381 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 3: not going to guess the random player. Do I lose 1382 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 3: a point if I guess on bonus? 1383 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 1: No? But you can get a point, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1384 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: just yeah, throw it out. No, Scott Spiezio, no, okay, no, 1385 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: David x Stine, no, no, we're just going down the 1386 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: Edgar R. Drop her back to that and a half. 1387 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: Two and a half to two, yeah, two and a 1388 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: half to one half? 1389 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 3: All right? 1390 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: Who is the last player with a walk off hit 1391 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 2: to clinch a World Series? Not just the walk off 1392 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 2: hit in a World Series game, but to win the 1393 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 2: whole enchilada? 1394 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 3: That's uh? 1395 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 2: I got a Luis Gonzales, Yeah, great, Mariano. Yeah, tough 1396 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: one for the one that was rough shame. And here's 1397 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 2: our last one. And this is kind of just a gag. 1398 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 2: How many days has it been since the Yankees last 1399 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 2: played in the World time? Alright, so we're ending on 1400 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: a tie. Alright, we're a tie halfway through. By the way, 1401 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 2: it's four thousan seven and forty five. 1402 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: It's been a wild day, a good amount of days 1403 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: like that. Tomorrow will be one more that's right. 1404 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 2: And this is November first, and there will be one 1405 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 2: more tomorrow and the next day. All right, Now we 1406 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 2: get into Mets World Series trivia. First question, how many 1407 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 2: World Series have the Mets been in? 1408 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 3: Uh? Five? 1409 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 2: Yes, that is correct. Yeah, people forget about seventy three. Yeah, 1410 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 2: I never forget about thirty. I was like, I know 1411 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: it's four. What it is? 1412 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 3: What's the fifth? 1413 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 2: And Yogi yogi and yogi well, yogi parent I mean, 1414 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 2: people have an issue with what he did. 1415 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was there, he was there. 1416 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 1417 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 2: What picture as the most World Series victories in Met's history? Kuzman, Yes, oh, baby, James, 1418 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 2: I'm thinking too much. You gotta throw names. 1419 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 4: Those those those are easy ones. You can't react to those. 1420 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 4: What kind of Mets historian are you? 1421 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: I have? 1422 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 3: Sorry? All right? 1423 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 2: Who led the Mets and hits in the nineteen sixty 1424 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 2: nine World Series Cleon Jones? 1425 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: Nope, okay, uh take the point off for him sixty nine. 1426 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,959 Speaker 3: Let's go with led the team and hits. 1427 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: Huh. I don't got a guess. No, I'm nah, I don't. 1428 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm not confident enough. I'm gonna lose 1429 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: a point. Clear and I'm happy to just be tied 1430 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: with James right now. You just lost the point because 1431 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: you got that one wrong. Yeah, I got two and 1432 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 1: I lost one. Whatever. 1433 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 3: They'll figure it out math. Yeah, that's right. Well the 1434 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 3: answer is Ron Swiboda never would against Those are the 1435 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 3: guys in between. Now. Who was the MVP of the 1436 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty nine World Series Leon Jones? Nope, damn it. 1437 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 3: I thought it was Yeah, see, I thought it was 1438 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 3: you did it three forty? 1439 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 2: That ye? 1440 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 3: The great series? 1441 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: A series, Yeah, great season. 1442 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 3: He was incredible. 1443 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: He caught the last Yeah, she was done guessing. But 1444 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: wasn't one of the pictures. 1445 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: No, it was Don Clen Dennon. Oh, don guess tough one. 1446 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 2: I mean you know these are tough obviously, Yeah, of course, 1447 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: of course. 1448 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 3: Okay. Who is the nineteen eighty six World Series MVP? 1449 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: Ray Knight? 1450 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 3: Yes? Good, you beat me to it? 1451 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 2: All right, so you can your magic number is like 1452 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 2: two here see I'm I happened before on a visual trivia? 1453 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 2: How usually go into the trivia like on the show? 1454 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 2: Does that keeping score? 1455 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1456 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 3: Usually be at the past my bedtime? All right? 1457 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 2: The Mets one unfortunately, one game you wake up the 1458 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 2: time you go the best. The Mets won one game 1459 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 2: in the two thousand World Series. But who's the winning 1460 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 2: pitcher in that game? 1461 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 3: Rick Reid? 1462 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: No. 1463 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 3: I think he started it, but he was not the 1464 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 3: that's unfortunate. Oh, I don't know. 1465 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: I really felt good about Rick Reid. I mean, you 1466 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: were before. You should remember it, I know I should. 1467 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: But if it's gonna be a reliever, who else was 1468 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: a reliever? If it was Armando Benait doesn't want to 1469 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: be sick. You got to save Okay, I don't got it, 1470 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: Johnny Franco, I guess your uncle. 1471 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, here's a good one. Who has the 1472 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 2: most hits in Mets World Series history. 1473 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: Think about it, hits and Mets World Series history. Think 1474 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 1: about it, he says, think about it. 1475 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying, don't rush an answer out. Okay, Uh, 1476 00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 3: logically want to go rowa nah? Okay? Three? So the key, Yeah, 1477 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 3: the key is it's got to be a seventy three, 1478 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 3: sixty ninety. 1479 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 4: I don't remember who else on those teams. I believe 1480 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 4: Cleon was off the team before seventy three. I remember correctly. 1481 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna gift the hint. Sorry, Mark, Yeah, back, I'm 1482 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 3: losing so oh. 1483 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh j Rod, Yeah, I was thinking Mackie Sasser, and 1484 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't him. It was definitely not No, 1485 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: I know that was four or five point I think. 1486 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 3: Don't worry about you have three questions left, Okay, take 1487 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 3: him behind the barn. Two players are tied for the 1488 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: most home runs in Met World series history. Who are they? 1489 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 3: Most home runs Met World series history? With three? With three? 1490 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 3: How about give me? 1491 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm trying to think about eighty six. Someone 1492 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: would have had to have a big series though, rate 1493 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: nine eighty six. Nope, okay, six seventy three, give me 1494 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: a can be Cleon Jones. 1495 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 3: No, the other guy who you almost you should have guessed. No, 1496 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 3: so the other one, you guys actually should know. Okay, 1497 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 3: wait what the other one with three home runs? 1498 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: You guys know? Was it Michael looking four? Though? 1499 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 3: No, he only at two. 1500 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 2: We also had a big series power wise, people forget 1501 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 2: about his leadoff home run in game five? 1502 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 3: Oh you also home run in game one. 1503 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: That's a good speaker game. Such a sneaky question. 1504 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, three homers in that World series? Remember when they lose? Yeah, 1505 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 3: I just kind of just block it out. 1506 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really want to I ignore that whole 1507 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: series of my brain, like I internalized it, and I 1508 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: just it's like compartmentalized somewhere deep in the suspect has. 1509 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,479 Speaker 3: Dropped that ball and I said it's over. I cried 1510 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 3: in public on Halloween. How old were you? 1511 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 1: Uh? 1512 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 3: I was? I was out of college. I mean you 1513 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 3: were too old to cry. No, dude, No, I got. 1514 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 3: I got pretty sad lost. 1515 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,439 Speaker 1: I was sad. 1516 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 3: No I cried in game four? Was the night I 1517 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 3: was there for Game five. I was numb that he Yes. 1518 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 2: I remember my wife girlfriend at the time, was like, yeah, 1519 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 2: let's go out Halloween costume. 1520 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, leave me alone. It's game four. And she 1521 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 3: got what she She got what she asked for. She 1522 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 3: got an unhappy John. And you guys can imagine how 1523 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 3: that went. 1524 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 1: Imagine that that's your wife. 1525 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well whatever, all right, She's not. 1526 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: We broke Taylor. John broke Taylor all right. 1527 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 2: Before Mooki Wilson's grounder that went through Bucke's legs, the 1528 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 2: Metro down to their last bout. Three guys had hits 1529 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 2: to keep it alive. Gary Carter, Keith Nandez Won into 1530 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,280 Speaker 2: the managers of Gary. 1531 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 1: Carter definitely Kevin Mary Carter, Kevin Mitchell. 1532 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 3: Yes, who's the third? 1533 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: Who was the third? 1534 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 3: Uh oh, had to be very nice score the run 1535 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 3: here on the map. Yeah, yeah, we got that one. 1536 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 3: Those for a good job, all right? 1537 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 2: Last one? What met made the final out of the 1538 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen World Series. 1539 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 3: Is painful? 1540 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: Wilmer Flores yep and Drew but Terra who the Mets 1541 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 2: trader for? Elis Castillo is the catcher that caught that 1542 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 2: final strike. 1543 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: I know Bartolo Bartolo pitched the last inning. 1544 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 3: I believe as well. 1545 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember Christian Cologne had to go ahead. Hey, yes, 1546 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 2: but I think Adison reading, I think we got Bartolo. 1547 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 2: I think came in and like, yeah the end, we 1548 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 2: have to close like that? 1549 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: Well, how about close on a happy note here, John, 1550 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: someone recognized you at the gym today. 1551 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's true. 1552 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: Shout out Dan the hour fifteen. 1553 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah you saved the very best for last. 1554 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah there, I am at aa am trying to wake 1555 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 2: up working on the old pythons here. 1556 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: And I killed John Mike and yeah, Wacky Hours. 1557 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 2: Comes comes up to me, gives me a pound, and 1558 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 2: uh yeah you said that we helped him get to 1559 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 2: the wild Card and Oil listener the entire season. So 1560 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 2: shout out Dan, appreciate you saying hi this morning, and 1561 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 2: you gotta see how this went to his head, right 1562 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 2: to his head. Recognize John, Oh yeah, sure, Reckon. I 1563 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: texted us immediately just so I wanted to make sure 1564 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: that we got make sure everyone knows that John got 1565 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 2: recognized today. 1566 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not I'm not Mark. I'm not Mark. 1567 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: Not everybody. Can I do a game with Marks? 1568 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 3: Insane? 1569 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: It's funny. Wh people else like don't know and like 1570 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: we go they hang out with them a games like 1571 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: what the holy crap? 1572 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's interesting that one time. 1573 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unbelievable. It is. It's pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy, 1574 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: and hopefully we get more of that next year for sure. 1575 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: Wrap up the episode here, guys, thank you so much 1576 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: for listening watching to a long episode. 1577 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 3: But we owed you one. 1578 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: We owed you one. We've been so short recently. Hopefully 1579 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed it. Next episode world, so you should 1580 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: be over and we will. 1581 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 2: Talk about the off season Phillies. By the way, Bryce 1582 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: Harbor tore on home Owe shut up John in the podcast. 1583 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: Follow us on all our social media at messed up 1584 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok YouTube channel, New York Mets 1585 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, and if you like what you're listening to 1586 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: here Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Odyssey, wherever you get 1587 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,439 Speaker 1: a drop us rating, drop us a review, Follow James 1588 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,439 Speaker 1: on Twitter at James Underscore, Shianna me at Traffnick Mark 1589 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: with the c Thank you guys for listening and watching, 1590 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next time. 1591 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 3: Peace out, peace out, guys, see you next time. 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