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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we too

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Speaker 1: are sad to announce that we did not qualify for

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Speaker 1: this year's Olympics despite giving it our all. If you

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Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about, see the show notes

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Speaker 1: for a link to our favorite social media trend of

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Speaker 1: these games. On today's show, it's group Chat. We're going

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Speaker 1: to be joined by US soccer great Sam UIs and

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Speaker 1: Becky Souerbrun, who will get us ready for Saturday's gold

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Speaker 1: medal match. Talk the Emma Hayes touch and pick a

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Speaker 1: post game meal It's coming up right after this Happy Thursday,

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Speaker 1: my little orange slices. Here's what you need to know today.

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Speaker 1: In basketball, the US is headed to the semifinals after

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Speaker 1: defeating Nigeria eighty eight seventy four on Wednesday. Asia Wilson

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Speaker 1: led the way with twenty points and all twelve US

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Speaker 1: finals on Friday, with a trip to an eighth straight

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Speaker 1: gold medal game on the line. For the first time

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Speaker 1: since two thousand and four, the US earned a medal

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Speaker 1: in artistic swimming, the sport previously known as sa granaize swimming,

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Speaker 1: the American team took silver in the three day team competition,

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Speaker 1: finishing behind China and ahead of Spain. This was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: During their technical routine on day one, Team USA did

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Speaker 1: the moonwalk upside down underwater. We'll link to a video

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Speaker 1: It might even be better than the famous Saturday Night

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Speaker 1: Live skin about synchronized swimming. It's maybe a close second.

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Speaker 1: That's a classic. In pole vault, defending Olympic gold medalist

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Speaker 1: Katie Moon of Team USA picked up silver, with Ossin

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Speaker 1: Mags Chris Chavez that she woke up feeling sick, but

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Speaker 1: ignore it. I have to. It's the Olympics. In boxing,

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Speaker 1: Lynn U Ting won her semi final on Wednesday to

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Speaker 1: advance to the gold medal bout. If you don't remember,

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Speaker 1: she's the Chinese type pay boxer, one of the two

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Speaker 1: women who has come under fire at these Paris Olympics

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Speaker 1: due to an alleged failed gender verification test last year

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Speaker 1: that led to widespread misinformation and what the International Olympic

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Speaker 1: Committee has deemed hate speech showface Poland's Yulia Scharameta On Saturday.

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Speaker 1: In cycling, do you remember Kristin Faulkner. That's that former

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Speaker 1: In track cycling. Faulkner and her teammates Chloe Daigert, Jennifer

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Speaker 1: Valente and Lily Williams beat New Zealand to win it

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Speaker 1: all in the team pursuit competition yesterday. The US has

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Speaker 1: won a medal in this event at every Olympics since

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Speaker 1: have time, Okay, quick reminder. Team USA is in action

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Speaker 1: today in both indoor volleyball and water polo, with spots

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Speaker 1: semifinal number one. That's at ten am Eastern. Then at

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Speaker 1: Steppens take on Australia. In track and field. We got

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Speaker 1: two women's finals today the four hundred meter hurdles and

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Speaker 1: By the way, did you guys see bulls come back

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Speaker 1: though Americans Anna Cockrell and Jasmine Jones also qualified for

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Speaker 1: paralympian Hunter wood Hall the cutest okay. Also today, the

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Speaker 1: Overtime Select, which is a new summer league in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: showcasing the top fifteen to eighteen year old women basketball

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Speaker 1: as their prepping for college. The championship is on September fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: so you can find a game schedule, links to watch

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Speaker 1: the games on YouTube, and more at overtimes Select dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to take a quick break. When

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Speaker 1: and Becky. She's a former professional soccer player, World Cup winner,

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Speaker 1: Fantastic The Women's Game podcast, part of the Men in

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Speaker 1: Blazers network consisting of Good Vibes FC, with co host

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Speaker 1: Lynn Williams and Becky Sowerbrunn. Friendly's where she interviews other

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Speaker 1: The Tower of Power, Mother of Finn, number one fan

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Speaker 1: of Rudy's Pizza in Manchester, England. It's Sammy Muiz. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, what.

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Speaker 1: Welcome with her. A two time World Cup winner and

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Speaker 1: Arguably the greatest center back of all time. Her two

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Speaker 2: It's Becky Sabrun.

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Speaker 3: What an introduction. Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 1: You do like the chips part, just not the fish

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you, and as a nod

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Speaker 1: So we are the self anointed post Gold Medal match

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm a Poopsi's cheese pizza. Poopsies is

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Speaker 2: like kind of like a dive bar near where I'm from.

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Speaker 1: But that's someone who knows she runs like ten miles

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to blow smoke up your ass, Sam,

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Speaker 1: that into this show. So you're already teaching me things

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Speaker 1: and you just you just started in this whole media game.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to that, but we have to

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Speaker 1: start with a speed round, lightning fast answer series of questions.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Sam, have you ever asked anyone for an autograph?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I remember going to see the national team play

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Speaker 3: Becky, Oh, I'm exc like Sammy, I have a tank

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Speaker 3: top that actually assigned by most of the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: nine Women's Oral Cup winning team. Wow, incredible, epic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, can you keep a plant alive?

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Speaker 1: Amazing. Only one of my fiddle leafs is kicking the

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Speaker 3: Becky, absolutely not perfect.

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Speaker 1: And finally, Becky, what's the color or design of your

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Speaker 1: then you finally have to say goodbye. Sam. Let's get

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Speaker 1: You're a natural, You're it's such a good listen, Becky,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the talent has always been there. It

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Speaker 1: and the US are back on top, or we've got

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Speaker 1: Marta getting gold in her final international game. Like either way,

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Speaker 1: it's good storybook stuff for Marcha, really, But I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with US rain on that parade if the US gets

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Speaker 1: the gold. What do you think about the idea of

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Speaker 1: her run and playing against someone that has that kind

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Speaker 1: of legend in a moment like this, Is there any

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Speaker 1: part of the US. I know they're not like wanting

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Speaker 1: her to win, but is there any part of them

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Speaker 1: that's overwhelmed by the idea of like this is it

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Speaker 1: for her and she's going to come out guns blazon,

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Speaker 1: especially after sitting in the last two games.

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Speaker 3: I think we Sam and I have had a discussion,

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Speaker 3: like is Marta even going to start this game? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I imagine we're going to see her, but I wonder

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Speaker 3: if she's going to start, because I mean, Brazilla's made

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Speaker 3: it to the final and have played very well without

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Speaker 3: Marta so spicy. Who knows, who really knows. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what I said.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think that's allowed.

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Speaker 1: Check the rule book. It might not be allowed. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you could do that. You know, I

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Speaker 1: want to ask about you know, I love Sam what

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Speaker 1: you said about the Tiktoks. I've been watching them a

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Speaker 1: lot and really enjoying the chemistry. And I was really

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Speaker 1: sad when Alex Morgan didn't make the team. I was

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Speaker 1: sad when Becky didn't make the team. I was like

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Speaker 1: literally distraught, and Rapino retired, Like you cling to these

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Speaker 1: players that you get used to and you don't want

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Speaker 1: this new group, but like now that they're playing so

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Speaker 1: well and having so much fun together. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I man, I like this too, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: there is this chemistry. And Becky, I know you've been

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Speaker 1: such an outspoken advocate for LGBTQIA rights and you participated

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Speaker 1: in playing for Pride in June where some of your

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Speaker 1: play actually sent money to athlete ally, which was so cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering what advice you gave this team when you

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Speaker 1: were in camp, or that you would give this team

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Speaker 1: now when it comes to teammate Corbin Albert, because I

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Speaker 1: think they're clearly making it work and playing alongside someone

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Speaker 1: who has different beliefs, but some of those beliefs are

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Speaker 1: actively taking aim at some teammates identities, and I wonder

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Speaker 1: how they've managed to make it work. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw some of that while you were still

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Speaker 1: in camp, or if you would have advice to players

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Speaker 1: if they've reached out to it all about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was I was gone by the time all

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Speaker 3: of that came out, And so my hope is that

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Speaker 3: the work that as a leadership group with people like

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Speaker 3: Pino and Alex Morgan and Kelly O'Hara and all people

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Speaker 3: like that, we were very conscious about kind of passing

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Speaker 3: the torch on to that next group of players, like

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Speaker 3: the Rose Lavell's, the Mouse Swanson's, and what it means

485
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Speaker 3: to have a platform that we do as women's national

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Speaker 3: team players and what we can do with it in

487
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Speaker 3: the change that we can affect. And so my hope

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Speaker 3: is that they're using those things talking about what happened internally.

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Speaker 3: And I know Sam and I have had a lot

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Speaker 3: of discussion about this about how we would love to

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Speaker 3: see some of the work that Corbyn is doing if

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Speaker 3: she's being very genuine about wanting to grow and learning

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Speaker 3: from what she said and the harmful things that she said.

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Speaker 3: And so my hope is that the work that we've

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Speaker 3: done before is carrying on and that baton has been passed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved Sam what you said on your show

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Speaker 1: about that same thing of like, it's great that they're

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Speaker 1: telling us work is being done, but if those comments

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Speaker 1: are made in public, then so shouldn't some of the work,

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Speaker 1: or at least some of the responses. And I do

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Speaker 1: think we've so far given Emma has a bit of

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Speaker 1: a pass and said she's given good mother energy, very

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Speaker 1: protective of Corbyn Albert, but I wonder as time goes on,

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Speaker 1: if we're going to expect a little bit more out

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Speaker 1: of them, because that transparency, to me is the key

506
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Speaker 1: anytime a team is dealing with any sort of issue

507
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Speaker 1: like this is how are you making the fans feel

508
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Speaker 1: like you understand when they're watching and when they're cheering,

509
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Speaker 1: that they aren't being forgotten or left behind?

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, definitely, I think in thinking about this,

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Speaker 2: I feel like one of my main takeaways has been

512
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Speaker 2: when you want to be embraced by a community, reflecting

513
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Speaker 2: the values and the things that community believes in is

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Speaker 2: really really important, and at least respecting the values of

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Speaker 2: that community is really really important. So I think to

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Speaker 2: Becky's point, the players have had such incredible leadership kind

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Speaker 2: of guiding and showcasing the power of the platform that

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Speaker 2: this team has, and I trust that in time that

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Speaker 2: platform will continue to be used in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: So well said, as always, no wonder you guys have

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Speaker 1: your podcast while also being soccer geniuses. Important question that

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Speaker 1: needs answering. How did the US women's national soccer team

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Speaker 1: get to keep the us w NT label? What about

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Speaker 1: all the other national teams? There's no s in there.

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Speaker 1: You just stole the whole us w NAT thing from

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Speaker 1: every other team that could be the us WNT polo

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Speaker 1: or equestrian or basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're kind of jerks like that.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I was gonna say, what's the

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Speaker 2: expression fighters? Keepers? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I have no ideas keepers. All Right, we're gonna set

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Speaker 1: We've got we've got an Olympic expert on our team,

533
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Speaker 1: but she's just a good researcher in general. We're going

534
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Speaker 1: to send her to find out when you guys stole

535
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Speaker 1: that or I guess like pissed on it and decided

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Speaker 1: it's ours. We're gonna look up. We're going to look

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Speaker 1: that up and figure it out. Okay, one last thing,

538
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Speaker 1: and we got to keep it quick. Gosh, we're doing

539
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Speaker 1: a decent job so far. I go over every time

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Speaker 1: because I just love talking to people like you. But

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Speaker 1: it's time for fight me. You have to. You're at

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Speaker 1: a barbecue, you're in a big backyard, and someone suggests

543
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: a soccer game. It's gonna be four on fours, so

544
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: you get three teammates to play with. You can pick

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Speaker 1: any women's soccer player from any country and any era.

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Speaker 1: You don't have time to think. You just have to

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Speaker 1: go with your gut, Sam, who are your three teammates?

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Speaker 2: I'm just going rosa on it. Lynn. You gave me

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Speaker 2: no time to think.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty incredible group and it'd be fun to

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Speaker 2: hang out with them. Met a barbecue after.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Becky, who you got?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to listen there. I'm going Mia Ham and

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Speaker 3: Carlo overbeck.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Okay, Becky, Becky, no shade that I

557
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Speaker 1: didn't pick you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's total shade. I'm taking real offense to it

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Speaker 3: over here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she didn't pick you either, but she

561
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Speaker 1: did have time to reflect I know.

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Speaker 2: But she also went after so maybe that was, like

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Speaker 2: you concerted effort.

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Speaker 1: My pick would just be two of each of you.

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Speaker 1: I would be the coach.

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Speaker 3: Answer.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Yes, I'm always gonna pick you. Everybody

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Speaker 1: listened to the women's game, Listen to good vibes, Listen

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Speaker 1: to friendlies, look, listen to Going for Gold. I can't

570
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: recommend it enough. Thank you so much. I know you

571
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: guys are so busy recording literally every reaction. I'm surprised

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00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: you don't have like a post practice reaction. So I'm

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00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: so appreciative of your time and keep pumping out the pods.

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Speaker 2: Don't give us any ideas. Maybe we should start a

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Speaker 2: post practice reaction.

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Speaker 1: Becky, thanks so much to Sam and Becky. Loved chatting

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Speaker 1: with them. Can't wait for Saturday's game. We got to

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Speaker 1: take another break when we come back. Get and bling

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