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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Beat. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast network. Is this the

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Speaker 1: betting show that makes the square? Sharper makes the wise

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Speaker 1: guys pay attention? I am Chadmullman, and I am joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my co host, my companion, my bff,

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Speaker 1: my compadre professional better, Simon Hunt.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Simon Chad, what's up? Brother? Well?

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Speaker 1: Listen, we've kind of entered by Mgeddon. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what that means?

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Speaker 2: Does this mean there's a bunch of bye weeks?

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Speaker 1: That means that there are six teams with buys this week.

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Speaker 1: That is the most of any bye week in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So that means we don't get to fade the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: We don't get to wring our hands about the Rams.

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Speaker 1: We don't get to wonder in awe at Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: We don't get to think about how we're gonna bet

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 3: We don't get to wonder.

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Speaker 1: If Jacoby Brissette will keep his job as the starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. All those things are off

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Speaker 1: the table. Our options will be severely limited, both for

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Speaker 1: betting and for survivor. Also I'm sad to say it's

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Speaker 1: time for you to get a haircut, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's welcomed. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Look, we went two and three last week and our

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Speaker 1: five favorite picks we won with the Browns and then

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Last night we lost with the Chargers as

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Speaker 1: favorites and the Texans and Titans as underdog. All three

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Speaker 1: of those games we were undone by the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: The Coldes crushed us with the Chargers, the Texans could

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Speaker 1: not do anything. We're going to get into that, and

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Speaker 1: the Titans there was no bounce, but it was just

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Speaker 1: a dead cat. So twenty one to fourteen for the

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Speaker 1: year with our.

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Speaker 3: Five favorite picks.

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Speaker 1: Through seven weeks.

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Speaker 3: Tough one, tough one.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is our Tuesday show. We're going to

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Speaker 1: review the entire slate. Make sure you check out the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Am show if you want the games. That will

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Speaker 1: be our official five after we've had a chance to review.

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Speaker 1: I know, before we get into the slate, we will

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Speaker 1: be relaunching our free to play contest. I know people

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Speaker 1: are frustrated who have listened to the show for years

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Speaker 1: and we've had this contest and now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: a different contest. That's just the breaks of the game.

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Speaker 1: We're really frustrated by it. We're bummed by it. But

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Speaker 1: the good news is because hard Rock is benevolent and

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Speaker 1: knows how committed our audience is, we are going to

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Speaker 1: be relaunching the contest. We're just getting through some of

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Speaker 1: the final sort of ranglings. That contest will have dynamic lines.

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Speaker 1: Those are going to be the lines that we're always

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about and referencing, So we will

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Speaker 1: dispense of talking contest lines during the week. I think

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Speaker 1: that has been causing some people some confusion as we

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Speaker 3: Rest Asshirt.

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Speaker 1: When we are talking about the games we are betting,

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Speaker 1: we are as explicit as possible. We say we like

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Speaker 1: a game, we like a game, we give a number

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Speaker 1: that we like that game up until and we will

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Speaker 1: keep talking about how we're betting that game and at

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Speaker 3: The lines we are betting. When we were talking.

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Speaker 1: About this on Tuesday and Thursday, don't forget get the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings at the Los Angeles Chargers lines ticked up, Simon.

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Speaker 1: It's gone from two and a half to three. Feels

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Speaker 1: to me like that could only be a wise guy move.

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Speaker 1: And I don't get what anyone who sharp is thinking

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Speaker 2: They've been terrible this year. So I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: If I haven't taken a position, I'll take the three

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Speaker 4: Just a bad game, Like, how do you trust either side?

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Speaker 4: It's like we keep seeing every week and it keeps missing.

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Speaker 4: They're at the rock bottom. The books keep moving their number.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, for them, you gotta pray if you're betting

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Speaker 1: Look, they've been as bad as this offensive line has been,

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell would not commit to Carson Wentz as the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna say the stamps this league, and he's

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Speaker 1: Come on, how many coaches, like I know, we're sort

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Speaker 4: Like he came back against the Chargers, he felt like

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Speaker 4: So I'm shocking. It feels like that's actually a little

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Speaker 4: He's a very out there kind of guy. But I

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Speaker 1: That's really interesting. I didn't get it at all. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like again, when he's nonsensical, Okay, he's just a

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Speaker 4: He was ready for that one. That one was in

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Speaker 4: the back pocket. So my model likes Miami. It's probably

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Speaker 4: a good Miami number. I can't do it, can you?

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Speaker 2: Do? You have the confidence?

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Speaker 1: My models are flashing green for Miami.

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Speaker 1: Mainly because of the spot exactly like team's getting blown out,

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Speaker 3: You bet Miami.

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Speaker 1: And look it has come down a little bit. It

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Speaker 1: Yeah, situationally Bejon Robinson may run for ten thousand yards

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Speaker 3: Like the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Thirty first in EPA per run, thirty second in success rate,

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting team because their quarter is so young

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Speaker 4: So Fenix, he's just seems like he's a different quarterback

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Speaker 2: I have to take Miami at that point. It's just

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Speaker 4: With his offense and that run game, they're gonna put

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Speaker 4: Even as bad as Miami's been this year, they've moved

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is a six and a half point favorite. It's

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Speaker 1: It's not a Chad's choice, but it very nearly was.

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Speaker 4: Just Lamar is a fully right and we're betting into

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Speaker 4: something we have no knowledge of. We have no idea

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Speaker 4: Because we talked before he sat out, I couldn't get

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Speaker 2: It was like, I just you had people in.

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Speaker 4: Supports me to be like he lost a step, and

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Speaker 4: it's like, no, he didn't lose a step.

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Speaker 2: He's still not still a young guy. He's just hurt.

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Speaker 4: We're betting into a guy we haven't seen play at

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Speaker 4: a high number. But I just agree with the market.

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Speaker 4: It's minus six and a half. I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: He is fully got and practice moving well. I mean

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Speaker 4: Ravens here. It's just a terrible spot for this Bears team.

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Speaker 4: They're just walking into a team with a month of frustration.

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Speaker 4: this year they've been like we've talked about, they've been

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Speaker 2: So could they play tight? Sure?

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Speaker 4: this is the type of game they absolutely roll. It's

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Speaker 4: it's it's a game where even if you're not confident

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to hear that you're on as well. A

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Speaker 1: I feel like you just talked yourself into it while

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Speaker 1: it's it's I feel like it's priced right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it feels easy. That's the scare. It's like, why

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Speaker 1: Actually, well, to me, I'm having a really hard time

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Speaker 1: They were, they were definitely, they've definitely been better after

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Speaker 1: the thing, like they still guy, guy, I'm getting there.

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Speaker 3: I'm not good.

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Speaker 2: God, I don't know what you bring it up though,

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Speaker 2: It's like, dude, well.

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Speaker 1: They look they still gave up one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: yards to the Commanders from week six, and Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 1: And I keep thinking, what like Jaden Daniels or what

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid they get blown into Baltimore Harbor with a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I think we're both on the same page.

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Speaker 4: It's really just about this Ravens in a get right spot.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens minus six and a half. Cleveland at New

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Speaker 1: England one is a seven point favorite. We know what

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Speaker 3: It's Patriots or pass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 4: If people are wondering what models are gonna pick, models

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Speaker 4: are gonna take the Browns er, that's a that's a

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Speaker 4: Ammer at home, I just don't trust Cleveland's defense to travel,

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: It's I hate them being scared off by the number,

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Speaker 4: but it's also like this this Patriots team. I know

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Speaker 4: you you believe the Drake May stuff. I like, I

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Speaker 4: go back and watch this stuff and it's like, dude.

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Speaker 2: This kid he's gotting.

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Speaker 4: He is very talented, but the throws he makes and

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Speaker 4: the stuff that's working out for him are just absurd

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Speaker 4: right now. Like he is playing as like the top three,

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Speaker 4: gonna last. It's just it's not possible. I know football

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Speaker 4: fans want to hear this. I mean, holy hell, how

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Speaker 4: much noise did I hear from Jane Daniels fans telling

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Speaker 4: me I don't know what I'm talking about. There's not

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Speaker 4: gonna be a year or two letdown the book. It

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Speaker 4: a certain style. So Drake May, I think he can last.

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Speaker 4: But the hits he takes, I'm sure you've seen it.

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Speaker 4: The hits he takes, I just don't get it. Like

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Speaker 4: I watched the game and it's like I can't believe

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Speaker 4: number wise, Like I said, my modas is at six,

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Speaker 4: I'm still going to take the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I probably would still take the Phills minus seven and

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Speaker 4: I just I have no interest or faith betting Dylan

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I hate it because it's like such a

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Speaker 4: to take Patriot's sign number.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it is a brown spot. And

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Speaker 1: to me, it really is not even about their defense.

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Speaker 1: Like we know that we want to fade the Browns defense.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots can't run the ball.

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Speaker 3: You know that, right, Yeah, they can't run the ball.

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Speaker 2: Spot. You can make a one dimensional Drake May that's

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. To me, it's not about the

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Speaker 1: Browns defense. It's all about Dylan Gabriel against the Patriots defense.

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Speaker 3: And I've said this for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Christian Gonzales, he doesn't get mentioned in the broadcasts. I

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Speaker 1: so our fans didn't have to. That's the kind of

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Speaker 1: They don't mention Christian Gonzales because you can't throw in

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Speaker 1: if you look at what the Browns did this past

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What they can scheme they could get them into the

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Speaker 3: That's why Simon, I.

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Speaker 4: Might have to get back on Twitter and just start

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Speaker 4: tweeting out Christian Gonzalez is disgruntled and the Eagles are

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Speaker 4: looking to get him.

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Speaker 2: For a third fourth round pick. I'm about to start

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Speaker 2: tweeting that.

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Speaker 4: Out every day just because I cannot take every week

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Speaker 4: AJ Brown and Patriots fans being like, yeah, the Eagles

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Speaker 4: Even after you get a huge week, I'm still seeing

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Speaker 4: I still think he once out. It's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: this is never gonna end.

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Speaker 1: New York Giants at Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles are seven

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Speaker 1: point favorites in this game. You were surprised by this

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Speaker 1: one that it's so high, And I thought on Monday

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Speaker 1: it looked like it was trending towards six and a half.

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Speaker 1: There were some six and a halfs out there, But

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Speaker 1: now this morning it's at seven. You look at the juice,

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Speaker 1: the line was Eagles minus seven and a half. If

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Speaker 1: in a neutral sight, which means they should be thirteen

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Speaker 1: point favorites. You know, in Philadelphia, if you give say

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Speaker 1: Well, isn't that some medication right now? How the bookmakers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know why my mind right to it.

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Speaker 4: All I can think of is we've only played one

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Speaker 4: As the Rams, we've hit every other Thursday game and

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Speaker 4: this year in a stupid way. Yeah, I don't get

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00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 4: this one because I didn't get by the line, like

440
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: I said, was so high still and.

441
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: What are we missing on this Giants team?

442
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: Like last week, people are coming in on Denver and

443
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: I just didn't get it.

444
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: And it's like, am I adjusting too much to this

445
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: Giants team?

446
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 4: Or are people still out rating this free playing dart

447
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 4: style like he's not thinking making big throws and camp scatterbu.

448
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: I can't believe it's worked out.

449
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 4: Like I remember him coming out, I was like, there's

450
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 4: no way this stump of a human is going to

451
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 4: work in this league. And he's a beast man he

452
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 4: runs through dude's faces every week. He's just in the

453
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 4: right scenario, right spots. He really is like a mini bus.

454
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: He's just a beast. So I don't know, I feel

455
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 4: like the Eagles are the right side and I'm getting

456
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 4: psyched out too much by this Giants team. But I

457
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 4: just don't trust this Eagles team, Like I just I'm

458
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: having a hard time trusting him because they're just not

459
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: consistent offense or defense. They're half teams, and it's been bizarre,

460
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 4: like they've had the hardest schedule on all of football.

461
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: You know, they are five and two. It hurts.

462
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: I've saw some crazy stat his through seven weeks. He's

463
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 4: number one ratio touchdowns, interceptions, he is second and eight out.

464
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: He is fifth and passer rating, he is seventh in

465
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 4: total EPA, and he's seventh.

466
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: In completion percentage. And it's like.

467
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: Just said the basis, he's having a great season, But

468
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 4: I just don't think as a team they are like

469
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 4: Saquon We've talked about, he's not running right. He doesn't

470
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: have one hundred yards from scrimmage this year. It's bizarre.

471
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 4: So I don't know what to do with it. I

472
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 4: think I'm supposed to be on the Eagles. My model says,

473
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 4: I am, But there's a parting that's just like, are

474
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 4: we just all still undervining this Giants team that's they're

475
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: gonna hit a wall, They're gonna fall off a cliff eventually.

476
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 4: I just don't know if it's this game yet. It's

477
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 4: tough to guess, So I guess I'll just a model here,

478
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: try to take my human aspect out, and I'll give

479
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: out the Eagles still, and I'll bet the Eagles. But

480
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 4: I felt way better at six and a half, like

481
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 4: you said, Now it's getting closer to seven and seven

482
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 4: and a half, so I'll take the seven now before

483
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 4: it moves to that number.

484
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: I thought the Eagles would hit the wall last week

485
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: against the Broncos. I think we're all waiting for the

486
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: fall because Jackson Dard is playing kind of out of

487
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: his mind and he's doing.

488
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: What a lot of great quarterbacks do.

489
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: We see it with Jayden Daniels, We'll see it with

490
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, where he's getting his team into position to

491
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: convert third and longs because if he sees the opportunity

492
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: to run in a wide open field, he's just going

493
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: for it. And he's finding a way to get that

494
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: first down in what seemed like impossible situations, and that's

495
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: debilitating for a defense and morale crushing for a defense.

496
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: Like the Eagles have been.

497
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: So, like you said, a little bit off, a little inconsistent,

498
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: and Jalen Carter will disappear, and then he'll have a

499
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: game like he did on Sunday where he had seven

500
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: quick pressures, like pressures of a very specific amount of

501
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: time or less or six maybe, And that was more

502
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: than the entire Eagles defensive front combined, and that normally

503
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: comes from defensive ends.

504
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: So did you see you on retired?

505
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's how bad it was.

506
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham, who was an Eagles legend going back to

507
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl against the Patriots and playing last year

508
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: after a season with a torn pack and it was

509
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: going to be last season, has unretired to come back

510
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: and play. That's not a savior situation. That's a desperation situation.

511
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: It is.

512
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: I told you before he went down last year he

513
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 4: was our best the end, like statistically, so I'm happy

514
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: he's coming back.

515
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: He said he didn't want to retire.

516
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: How he basically told him, like, dude, you got the

517
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 4: Hollywood ending like give it up.

518
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: So it's listening. He starts the firing them. But yeah,

519
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: I just.

520
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 4: When I saw that, I was like, man, it is dark,

521
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 4: dark times right now for Philadelphia that we are trying

522
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: to get our old players are unretired because we need them.

523
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Jason Kelce, if you can still do it, brother,

524
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: we need you, come on back.

525
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, this is just a herd. Like you're you're

526
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: going to take the Eagles at seven.

527
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm uncommitted on this game, Like I kind of hate

528
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: everything about it because that's fair. The Giants keep breaking

529
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot of games.

530
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: I hate this week, so yeah.

531
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: There's not another and it's hard because there's so many vibes.

532
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: But like the Giants keep breaking, well, the.

533
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: Numbers are getting sharper. I mean that's true. Yeah, that's

534
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: how it goes.

535
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: The Giants are breaking the moment and the Eagles are

536
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: you betting what we've seen all year? We betting what

537
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: we saw last week, which their their best complete game,

538
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: and even then they kind of got away with one.

539
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: So it's tough. It's really really tough.

540
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco ed Houston bouncing back and forth and back

541
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: and forth, The Texans have been favorites as high as

542
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: two and a half even heading into last night's game.

543
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 3: It settled around one and a half.

544
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: After the game and their loss, it flipped to Niners

545
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: minus one and a half, Texas plus one and a half,

546
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: now Texans minus one.

547
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: Simon, what say you.

548
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Jed?

549
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: This is Simon says, give me Houston minus one.

550
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: I want to play a game, Simon says.

551
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Simon says, presented by hard Rock Bet, are the Houston

552
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: Texans minus one?

553
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: Give it to me.

554
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: You're obviously much rather have Texans as a dog would

555
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 4: have been nice, but unfortunately for me, the professionals had

556
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: the same idea as I did.

557
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: It's just a nice spot for this Texas team. After

558
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: last night? Did you stay Upbrade? You actually go to bed? Dude?

559
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: Listen.

560
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: I went to bed, but you know, the Lions game

561
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: lasted so long that it went past what I was

562
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: hoping would be my ten PM bedtime, So I did

563
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: end up, and then I started watching the Mariners Blue

564
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: Jays like it was the eighth inning, and I wanted

565
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: to see what was going on. So I saw the

566
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: the end of that game. I got to see the

567
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: George Springer home run, and I washed until the end

568
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: of the game, and I multi viewed with with the

569
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Seahawks and Texans, and look like.

570
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: That was discouraging.

571
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: It was.

572
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Disgruntling if you had bet the Texans. Even the five

573
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: minutes I watched, Texans forced four turnovers, they scored one

574
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: touchdown themselves on defense, they blocked a field goal, They

575
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: had back to back turnover to give the Texans a

576
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: chance at the end of the game, and the Texans

577
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: could do nothing with it. Like this is a pathetic offense. True,

578
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: and it's such a bummer they're wasting such a good defense.

579
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: So tell me why we're going to bet the Texans

580
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: this way?

581
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: You go, Yeah, it was just all CJ, like we

582
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: we should have covered even maybe potentially won that game

583
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: a thousand different ways, and just awful, had an off night.

584
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: And that's honestly why I like it.

585
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: People are just they're down on Houston already this year

586
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: and after that type of game where CJ to me

587
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 4: it was probably his worst game of the year.

588
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: He was just, like you.

589
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: Said, so many opportunities gifted by Seattle and he just

590
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: even the refs were helping him out, honestly, like a

591
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: couple of calls were very favorable to our direction. But

592
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: this Houston team is just good to me, Like, even

593
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: in that game everything was going wrong, they saw a

594
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: chance to win in like multiple different ways. It just

595
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: once again CJ couldn't come through their offense. I put

596
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: a lot of them their roc like some of his calls.

597
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think there's one specific play might have

598
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: been the th quarter. It was third and one. He

599
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: runs it to the left side.

600
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: Again.

601
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: They're getting zero push on this left side the entire game,

602
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: and even the announcers are laughing at this guy, being

603
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: like that was why not just do a QB sneak

604
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: there on third and one, because you know you're gonna

605
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: go for it again if you're going for it if

606
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: you're running it on third and one. So they line

607
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: up fourth and one, they run chat, they run the

608
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: exact same play to the left side again. I can

609
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: play they just lost half a yard on and they

610
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: lose a full yard the next time. So there's a

611
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 4: lot of dysfunction with Houston. I think everyone's gonna be

612
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 4: down on the flip side. Forty nine ers on Sunday

613
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 4: night had a huge win. Right They won twenty to

614
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: ten in a game where I didn't think they looked

615
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: at it all.

616
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: I thought that was just a pure McCaffrey.

617
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: Put the team on your back, Oh yeah, win the

618
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: game for your offense. He won't be able to do

619
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: that against a Houston defense. So this Houston defense is legit.

620
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: Like Sam Darnold, he was the one that really stole

621
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: that game, right as bad as CJ was. Sam Donald

622
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: two drives he opened the game up that were just incredible.

623
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: He was automatic him.

624
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: And you know we talked about Jackson Smith and Jigba.

625
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: They're just tune right now and that's what happened in

626
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: that game. But you saw in that second half, Houston's

627
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: defense has kept them in the game. They got the

628
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: strip sacked touchdown, like Chad said, the block field goal.

629
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: They were just a team that never quits. They never died.

630
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: And I like that type of mentality for a team

631
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: that just got embarrassed. Now on a short week where

632
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: I talked to the public, was going to have their

633
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: week This was their past weekend. This is going to

634
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: be a huge public side the forty nine ers, And

635
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: to me, I was hoping the line would flip again.

636
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: I could see this getting up to two minus two, like,

637
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: just so we saw the charge. I could see this

638
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: gain upt to minus two minus two and a half.

639
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: Professional money come on the Seaston side because it is

640
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: a good spot for this defense at home, and I

641
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: get right against a team the forty nine Ers that

642
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: you can you can keep back in Mac Jones. It's

643
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: working for you. He's making the plays and everything like that.

644
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: But I do think we see Rock Perdy. I think

645
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: he rushes back because I just how can he not

646
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: be worried about his job right now? He's he's in

647
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: a spot where they're three to zero in the division,

648
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: this forty nine Ers team, So at five and two

649
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: three on your division, he's got to be feeling a

650
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: little bit like this is a lot of mac Jones.

651
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is carrying him, carrying this team right now.

652
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: So I could see him rushing back, and I just

653
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: this line, to me is a pretty line. If it

654
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: was mac Jones, I could see Houston being minus three.

655
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: This to me, they're pricing in a point and a

656
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: half into zo point two points maybe into purty here.

657
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: So I liked this early number here on Houston.

658
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I agree with everything you've said. Except for

659
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Speaker 1: brock Perty is worried about his job. Brock Purty, who

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Speaker 1: just signed a fifty five million dollars a year contract,

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Speaker 1: is not worry that matters, is not worried about his

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Speaker 1: job and losing it to mac Jones. There is there

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Speaker 1: is no world in which where that is a conversation.

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Speaker 4: I'm a Carson One survivor, you're a Mitch Trubisky survivor.

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about right now? None of that

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Speaker 4: money means anything. Party has had one good year, Like,

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Speaker 4: all right, he can come back, he gets hurt again

668
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Speaker 4: and mac Jones keeps winning games.

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Speaker 2: That's a real conversation right now. That's a real conversation.

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Speaker 1: If brock Perty gets hurt again and continues to struggle

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Speaker 1: and can't stay healthy, he's not worried about his job

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Speaker 1: after a three game absence.

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Speaker 4: So the last pick in the NFL draft because he

674
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Speaker 4: was a small bodied who can't stay on the field,

675
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Speaker 4: isn't worried about his job right now because he just

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Speaker 4: got paid a bunch of money from an organization that

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Speaker 4: moved on from the number three pick of the NFL

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Speaker 4: to him. I think you're you're not reading this one right.

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Speaker 4: It's a real thing. You're five and two with a

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Speaker 4: guy that apparently the head coach loved and got overstepped

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Speaker 4: by Lynch take someone else like that.

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones stuff is real. So I don't know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's an interesting.

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Speaker 1: Spot, all right, all right, I'm nothing if not flexible

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Speaker 1: in my beliefs.

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Speaker 4: Jims letting you know, like the plugged in world. That's

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Speaker 4: that's a real thing going on.

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Speaker 1: So you're giving me not speculation, you're giving me sourcing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's mac Jones. This is real.

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Speaker 4: Perty needs to get healthy and come back and play

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Speaker 4: well like he doesn't only go in the next offseason

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Speaker 4: with all this hanging over him. He needs to get

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Speaker 4: right because the way the kids playing Mac Jones, who

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's as good as party. He's winning

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Speaker 4: games right now and he's playing well. He's he's got

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Speaker 4: like a bum short and abom me. That's that's pretty

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 4: that's tough. That's that's a really if you're a football team,

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Speaker 4: you rally around those type of guys.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: By the way, for context, for those who don't remember, whatever,

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Speaker 1: it was twenty one twenty two, that's when mac Jones

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Speaker 1: and Trey Lance were both talked about as going to

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Speaker 1: the Niners, and everyone thought it was going to be

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Speaker 1: mac Jones at number three, and everyone was betting huge

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Speaker 1: sums of money it was going to be mac Jones

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Speaker 1: at number three, and then it came out forty eight

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Speaker 1: hours before that it might be Trey Lance, And then

708
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Speaker 1: people were betting huge sums of money that Tray Lance

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Speaker 1: that mac Jones wouldn't go number three, including our friend Simon,

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Speaker 1: who we did a segment on our old show where

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Speaker 1: you had pulled over from the side of the road

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Speaker 1: on the way to or from the sportsbook where you

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Speaker 1: just made a massive, massive bet on mac Jones to

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Speaker 1: not go number three. So I can't deny you know

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Speaker 1: of what you speak when it comes to being inside

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Speaker 1: this particular conversation.

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Speaker 2: I just I know I have good people inside four

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Speaker 2: Hours organization. I always have people I trust.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that that situation again, like you said, it's

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Speaker 4: it kind of being nothing pretty comes back plays the

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Speaker 4: rest of the year, they make the playoff or something

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Speaker 4: win this division. But as you say right now, it's

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Speaker 4: like I said, I don't feel good about it against

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Speaker 4: Salah or you know shann Anne. Here, I just said,

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Speaker 4: they're probably the best coaching tenaem of football right now,

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Speaker 4: what they've done with this team is incredible, but they

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Speaker 4: are another team.

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Speaker 2: I just think they're betting way above their head.

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Speaker 4: You know, Eagles points differentials plus five, four point differentials

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Speaker 4: plus seven, so it's like it's the same thing. It's

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Speaker 4: like two teams are winning games they probably shouldn't be winning,

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Speaker 4: but Eagles are much healthier, getting right foty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: They just they're not going to get these pieces back.

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Speaker 4: So it's imp so what they did Sunday, But how

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Speaker 4: can they not be over valued by the general public

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Speaker 1: Buffalo at Carolina, Carolina plus seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young has the high ankles brain so Dave Canalis

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Speaker 1: is saying he's day to day. There are other reports

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Speaker 1: saying he's expected to miss the game. I think it's

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Speaker 1: ticked up because people expect it to be Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 1: I love the Panthers so much at full strength that

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Speaker 1: I realized when I was looking at my accounts, I

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Speaker 1: bet this at plus seven during the summer because I

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Speaker 1: thought that the Panthers at this point would be so

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Speaker 1: good that the number would have been shorter.

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Speaker 3: They're good, but without Bryce Young. I can't believe that.

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Speaker 1: Like Bryce Young is the deciding factor for us in

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Speaker 1: this game.

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Speaker 2: Know if he is, I think that was a good revalue.

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Speaker 4: You definitely got lucky to read that Buffalo would be

793
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Speaker 4: as bad as they are right now, but a good

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Speaker 4: read on the Panthers being better. Like if this was Bryce,

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Speaker 4: probably would be six and a half six If it.

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Speaker 3: Was Bryce, I love it. I feel so good.

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Speaker 4: I'm shocked you're straight off about being about being to

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Speaker 4: being Andy. I thought as rusty as he looked last week,

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Speaker 4: expect a full.

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Speaker 2: Week of practice. This should be a nice spot for him.

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Speaker 4: This is a Bills team that can't stop the run,

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Speaker 4: and they might have one of the best running backs

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Speaker 4: in football right now. No, they don't believe it because

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00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 4: they're still trying to get two but Hubbard touches. But yeah, right,

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00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: it's they have a good running attack. And we've talked

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00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: this team is different at home. The Panthers are just

807
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Speaker 4: simply different, so brutal, Like this is technical a get

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Speaker 4: right spot for the Bills after they're you know, they've

809
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: been so bad by a week, they should play well here.

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00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: But the data hasn't back those type of things.

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Speaker 6: Up.

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Speaker 2: Usually teams come out sluggish in these type of games.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I'll check out the injury report for the Bill, see

815
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Speaker 4: what got are getting back. I mean, you know at

816
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Speaker 4: Oliver obviously came back was a huge instant jolt of

817
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: that defense is a big way. But Panthers plus seven

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Speaker 4: and a half, I don't know, kind.

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Speaker 2: Of love it, kind of love it.

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Speaker 4: It just feels like it's too much, too much respect

821
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Speaker 4: for this Bills team. They don't just like the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where it's it's is it warranted? Like

823
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Speaker 4: is this defense good enough to be catching a touchdown

824
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Speaker 4: and a half?

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Speaker 2: Like we've got Andy Dolton.

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Speaker 4: With his best receiving course since he's had AJ Green

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Speaker 4: and in Cincinnati days, like team McMillan's a stut, Like

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Speaker 4: they they have a lot of guys that are just

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Speaker 4: really good and.

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Speaker 1: Their defense is improving every Yeah, so I don't know,

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Speaker 1: all right, kind of listen, here's the truth. I'm locked

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Speaker 1: in on this either way, So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta bet it again though if you get

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Speaker 2: seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: If I get seven and a half, maybe I'm betting

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Speaker 1: it again. Like this feels like where we've got an

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Speaker 1: early indicator on what could be a brass balls going

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Speaker 1: with Carolina at seven and a half against the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: That'll be interesting to see as we get more reports

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Speaker 1: from Thursday from the injury reports. Oh God, New York

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Speaker 1: Jets at Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati Bengals are six and a

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Speaker 1: half point favorites.

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Speaker 3: This is what it's come to for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco's three.

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Speaker 1: Weeks into his mid season career change, still learning the

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Speaker 1: playbook in Cincinnati. A huge win on Thursday Night Football

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Speaker 1: that we loved because we had the Bengals. He's nearly

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Speaker 1: a touchdown favorite.

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Speaker 3: And and this line has.

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Speaker 1: Gone up two points since the Jets game on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The line was four and a half on Sunday, it's

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Speaker 1: now six and a half. Simon Simon.

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Speaker 3: Percent.

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Speaker 1: Every model is going to have the Jets as the

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Speaker 1: side to bet.

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Speaker 3: In this game.

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Speaker 1: We do not know who will be the starting quarterback.

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00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: We do know for the Jets. We do know the

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Speaker 1: justin fields in the last two games. Do you know

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Speaker 1: how many total passing yards he has in the last

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Speaker 1: two games? Eighty ninety one. I'm glad that you went

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Speaker 1: so low forty five.

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Speaker 2: I've noticed it's been it's been atrocious.

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Speaker 1: I've like forty five and forty six. He's not even

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Speaker 1: playing quarterback anymore.

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Speaker 2: I know. It's it's a train wreck.

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Speaker 4: And they have so many injuries too, Like, I can't

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Speaker 4: believe it though Joe Flacco is minus seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with this one, because

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00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: you're right, like my model wants us to take it.

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00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: I mean, the money line you get, you're getting plus

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Speaker 4: two seventy against Flacco.

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Speaker 2: That's insane.

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Speaker 4: You almost gotting three to one on your money against

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Speaker 4: betting on Joe Flaccough.

877
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: I'd almost I'd almost rather take the money line, you know,

878
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: because yeah, right right, I put a little bit less

879
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: than my full unit because.

880
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 2: I won a game yet this year.

881
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

882
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 4: Like, but I told you Aaron Glenn's not a real coach.

883
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 4: He's not a serious head coach. I saw a clip

884
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: he's calling other coaches that ask them how they handle

885
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: telling the start of their bench and going with another guy,

886
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: or what he should do with his starting quarterback position.

887
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 4: It's it's a disaster, and there's a disaster organization. So yeah,

888
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: it's like I said this week. There's so many lines

889
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: I hate. I don't even want to bet. I guess

890
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: I had to take a position because, as we do

891
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: on the show, I'll give out the Jets.

892
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: But man, you can hear my voice, I'm probably with Chad.

893
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 4: I'd rather just bet the money line plus two seventy

894
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: plus two eighty if I can find it, other than

895
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: even taking the number here, because like you said, what

896
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: are we going to back toward fields or tailor? Like

897
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: these are not backdoor quarterbacks, but they are the quarterbacks

898
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: that they can get a stupid lead and hold on

899
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: to it by running the ball legs.

900
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's just disastrous place.

901
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, look, I trust Tyrod Taylor a lot more than

902
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: I trust Justin Fields. And the only time we've actually,

903
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: I think the only time we've bet the Jets and

904
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: that they've covered this year was that game against the Bucks,

905
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: which was a Tyrod Taylor miracle game. I've actually been

906
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: really proud of us this year that we haven't bitten

907
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: on the Jets, like it's.

908
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: One of them against Pittsburgh Week one.

909
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: I know, right, I guess we did.

910
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm with you, like we just it's just

911
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: a team. We don't trust and can't get a read on.

912
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: They're tough, so.

913
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: They have nothing exceptional.

914
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: Your gambler, who bets on the Jets? Who have you

915
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: not learned anything about betting?

916
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: The Jets are gonna come back? Tampa Bay at New Orleans.

917
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: This line has dropped from five and a half to

918
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: four and a half. New Orleans plus five and a

919
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: half is now plus four and a half, So that

920
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: tells me the wise guys have been coming in on

921
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans since last night's game. Here's my worry, and

922
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: I have a very specific opinion on this game. I

923
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: worry that the New Orleans Saints are going to become

924
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: to us the same team that.

925
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: The Panthers have been.

926
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: We see enough each week that we feel encouraged, and

927
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: there are a couple lucky breaks away each game from

928
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: actually staying in it and covering as they were last

929
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: week against the Bears, as they were the week before

930
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. But in reality, they're not that team,

931
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: and I think this is a bad matchup for them,

932
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: and I think it's time to get on the Baker train.

933
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: I'm not there yet with this Bucks team that that

934
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 4: was a bad Baker game.

935
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: Obviously, the lines. They should have lost that game.

936
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: By forty though, like Gold, Oh yeah, totally. Golf was

937
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: terrible and that I can't believe that we had to

938
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: sweat that.

939
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, so, I mean this Bucks team, Chad, they

940
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 4: don't I know, they blew a team out the week before,

941
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: but like they're another team with minus one point differential,

942
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: Like I get it, they're five and two, but all

943
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: those games, remember they were winning on last second field goals.

944
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: So six and a half obviously in the Saints that

945
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: was a side we talk a little bit Sunday night.

946
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: That was a great number.

947
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sucks that we missed it and that it's

948
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 4: gone now that we're stuck with the four and a half.

949
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 4: But you're probably right, maybe I'm too close to it,

950
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: But this is just I don't know how this Bucks

951
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: team with other injuries as bad as the Saints team is.

952
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: It's a divisional game and they're catching more than a

953
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: field goal. So if it was minus three, I honestly

954
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 4: would have no issue taking the Bucks. It's all about

955
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 4: the line with them, Like this year, they've been very

956
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 4: profitable if you've been pricing in those type of games

957
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: and those lines. This is not This is not a

958
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 4: books line to me. This is a slowly Saints number.

959
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: The Bucks, like we said, they when they get guys back,

960
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: if they get God went back, if Bucky Irvin is

961
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: back this week, if they do get a couple of

962
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 4: guys in their secondary back, I could come to your side, Chad,

963
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 4: But as we sit here right now, I just I

964
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 4: can't trust them. And yeah, this this Saints team that

965
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: played really bad in the weather. We've seen them play

966
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 4: well at home indoor, like every game they're in, they're

967
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: usually close games. This is a close game type of number.

968
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: So I'm with you. They're they're slowly becoming a favorite

969
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 4: team of mine, the Saints team. But yeah, it's about

970
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: the number. Like I'm not banging the table for because

971
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: it's not plus six and a half.

972
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: But I still think there's value here that's been overlooked

973
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: plus four and a half. I got this at three

974
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: and a half.

975
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: So if you do like the Bucks, you can be patient.

976
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: I do think the pros will bet this one down

977
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: for you. Wait and see too. A mecha Buka didn't

978
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: look right in that game, looked like he was playing

979
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: in a not fully healed hamstring. And now they lost

980
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 4: again Mike Evans for the season. Does he just force

981
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: it in this game, comes out there because they need him,

982
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 4: like they can't rely on was it Tess Johnson? This

983
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: kid that's like, yeah, incredible, But yeah, it's it's asking

984
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 4: a lot for Baker and you saw last night Baker's

985
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: gonna have his game. So yeah, it's interesting in short weeks,

986
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: second back to back road game for the Bucks minus

987
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: four and a half. I thought this would be a

988
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 4: more public side right now. The money is definitely towards

989
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 4: the Saints. The tickets right now, it's about every book

990
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: is about ninety percent towards this Bucks team. So there's

991
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: no doubt this is gonna be a pros versus shows.

992
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: The public will be on the books, and you're right,

993
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: the pros we might be enamor of the Saints team.

994
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: We're buying fools gold here.

995
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

996
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Look, I watched that game last night and then when

997
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, uh late night and then

998
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: well late at night for me, you know, ten thirty,

999
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: and then this morning the Lions hammered the Bucks with

1000
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 1: man de man coverage. They were awesome and they were

1001
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: on one last night. That defense was playing out of

1002
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: its mind. The pass rush was insane. That's the Saints.

1003
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: They live in zone coverage, and like Baker lives beating

1004
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: zone coverage. Baker is the best quarterback in the league

1005
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: on an EPA per attempt basis against zone.

1006
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: I think he's going to eat these guys up.

1007
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: And I think coming back like, it's going to be quieter,

1008
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: It's not going to be amped the way Detroit was.

1009
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: Like.

1010
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: That was a we love Detroit no matter what the

1011
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: number last night because we believe like Baker's magic is

1012
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: going to run out against a far superior team. I

1013
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: don't think it runs out against a team that plays

1014
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: the exact defense he likes to eat up. That's my

1015
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: take on the game. Tennessee at Indy. Indy is a

1016
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point favorite. Simon our beliefs are

1017
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: being tested. That's all I can say about this.

1018
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're supposed to be in Tennessee, but I don't care.

1019
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: I'll take I'll take the Colts.

1020
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Are you taking the Colts or we just are we? Like,

1021
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: you're actively going to take the Colts here?

1022
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'll throw him in our money line around Robin.

1023
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: I'll get him down to I don't even I need

1024
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 4: to get him down to five and a half. I'll

1025
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: take him down to six and a half. Six and

1026
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: a half. That's how much I don't respect this Tennessee teams.

1027
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 4: They're just terrible. So yeah, can they get a backdoor

1028
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: junk touchdown? Sure, But you have arguably the best running.

1029
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: Team in football, the Colts, going against some of the

1030
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: worst run defenses and all football, and you simply just

1031
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: have this scheme around Jeffrey Simmons.

1032
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Like we don't know if he's going to play because

1033
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: remember he missed half the game with halfster injury.

1034
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know.

1035
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: It has come down is at fourteen and now it's

1036
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half.

1037
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, pros are Betton Tennessee.

1038
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: You know, like you said, Christian Zales shut down Tennessee's

1039
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 4: number one receiver. He didn't play in the game. It

1040
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 4: really didn't play. So they don't even have their number

1041
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: one receiver. He could play in this game, which they need.

1042
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: But I think Lockett has to be released from them.

1043
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 4: Like they're just totally dysfunctional right now, this Tennessee team.

1044
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 4: So they need Ridley back, they need some type of

1045
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 4: offensive weapon because the guys they had out there last

1046
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: week just were not getting open, getting it done.

1047
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: So it's it's bad for Tennessee. This just feels like

1048
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: a really bad matchup.

1049
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: And like we always say, these big spreads and divisional games,

1050
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: weird things can happen.

1051
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: But you also saw exactly what happened last week with.

1052
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: The Raiders where some of these teams just can't save

1053
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: themselves right now and they're running into teams that are

1054
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: just buzzsaws. So we'll see the coaches feel like a

1055
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: really well oiled machine right now. I don't see them

1056
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 4: taking this game lately, because it is a divisional game.

1057
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: I think they'll be fully prepared and ready to play

1058
00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 4: in this one, and.

1059
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: It's painful. It's the Tennessee team that.

1060
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: Probably is a good number fourteen and a half fourteen,

1061
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: but at thirteen and a half, i'll take that by

1062
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: I'll take the Colts.

1063
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: I actually feel like when you're playing the way the

1064
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: Colts are right now and you're dominating the way they are,

1065
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: you want to keep doing it, like you are so

1066
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: freaking motivated to continue to be that excellent and to

1067
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: elevate yourself into the upper tier of the NFL ranks.

1068
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: Right now, I think they're so freaking psyched with the

1069
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: way they're playing, and they're coached so well right now,

1070
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: I don't see them taking even a second of this

1071
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: game lightly against the Titans. I'm glad you said it,

1072
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to be on the Titans. I

1073
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: was antsy about taking the Colts. I appreciate you booing

1074
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: my confidence on this game.

1075
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: Dallas.

1076
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos are currently three point favorites.

1077
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: First game I thought about on Sunday night continues to

1078
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: be in my head. The Denver Broncos minus three will

1079
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: be chat choice.

1080
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to do this? Are you

1081
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: willing to make a choice that choice?

1082
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 6: We can't run from who we are shot up? Dues

1083
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 6: can just see it. You know what I mean?

1084
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: In my model, Simon, I like a good team as

1085
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: a home fave that struggled against a good team that

1086
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: won easily. The Cowboys won easily against second and third

1087
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: tier receivers on Sunday against the Commanders. I know you

1088
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: want to say something about bo Nicks Before I dig

1089
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: into it.

1090
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 3: I want to hear what you have to say.

1091
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we fought over this one. We both love it.

1092
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: I was happy to hear that you were making this

1093
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: your choice. It's it's just a great, great spot, great number.

1094
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: Hopefully people can get this while they can. This is

1095
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: going to go up to minus three and a half,

1096
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 4: minus four. It's just number to keep moving in the

1097
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 4: simple fact that yes, the Cowboys can score at will.

1098
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 4: They are an incredible offense. This should be a bad

1099
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 4: match for them. Denver's defense, who is not impressed at

1100
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 4: all this season. They need to step up here and

1101
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 4: really shut down a Cowboys offense that yes, they're incredible,

1102
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 4: they're juggernaut. It's usually against bad teams and bad defenses

1103
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 4: like this is a real test for this Cowboys offense

1104
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: that you know they're just going through everybody. Dak We've

1105
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 4: seen it. He does struggle with pressure. We've talked to

1106
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 4: all the injuries offensive line. This should be the match

1107
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: of for Denver and on the bow Nick side. I

1108
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 4: mean the guy said records right, first quarterback in NFL history.

1109
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: Two rushing touchdowns, two passing touchdowns in the same quarter.

1110
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: It's insane, Like just what he did against that Giants team.

1111
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: He was deader than dead for three quarters. He did

1112
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 4: absolutely nothing. He was terrible and to have the narcissistic

1113
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 4: self belief that he does is incredible. Like, that's why

1114
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: these guys are professionals, right, they have that belief he

1115
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 4: can come back and win that game. That is something

1116
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: they should build on. So I love the spot for Denver.

1117
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 4: That should be a a launching point for this team.

1118
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: But like they had so much hype coming to the year,

1119
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: and that hype has been extinguished. Right, most people, you know,

1120
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: I just don't think they're on this team like they

1121
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 4: were before the year. Like no one's saying this team

1122
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 4: is going to beat the chiefs in this division at all.

1123
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: Right, there's I maybe something are.

1124
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: Still out there, but I just think this is a

1125
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 4: team that's still being a little bit sold low on

1126
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 4: in Denver, especially after all these people who'd bet him

1127
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 4: last week.

1128
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 2: They're mad at him.

1129
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 4: Like even though they won for us and our money

1130
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 4: line around Robin, they didn't cover people's teezers.

1131
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: They were harbor on the number.

1132
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: I bet him at seven, And I'm furious.

1133
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 4: Right, And you say, when the cares there, you thought

1134
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 4: you still had a chance to cover in that game.

1135
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 2: I was just like, Chad is total just a crazy person.

1136
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: By the way, narcissistic self belief. It's not just for quarterbacks,

1137
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: it's also for suburban dads living in central Connecticut. Just

1138
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: admiring the Fall foliage.

1139
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a crazy person. I just love when you

1140
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: said it. I was like, I can't believe you honestly

1141
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: think you have any right or.

1142
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 1: Even if you don't know by now that I live

1143
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: in an irrationally optimistic world and I always believe that

1144
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: the fluky is going to go my way. Like in

1145
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: my house, my wife believes that if there is a

1146
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: one percent chance of something bad happening or having it,

1147
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: she or me or our kids are going to have it.

1148
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: If there is a one percent chance of something good happening,

1149
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: I believe it is going to happen to me.

1150
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: That's a better way to live. Honestly, it's very good

1151
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: way to live. But yeah, Denver, grabbing when you can.

1152
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 4: There's it just feels a great match for them against

1153
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 4: Cowboys team that is better than we all perceive. But

1154
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 4: this just feels like a type of game that's just

1155
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 4: a touchdown game for the Denver.

1156
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: So matchup game, my belief is a matchup game.

1157
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: I just like I like the Broncos defense and how

1158
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: they pressure, how they are very good at keeping teams

1159
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: from converting on third down. I think they shot themselves

1160
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: in the foot so many times against the Giants. They

1161
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: had I think four defensive penalties, three pis or roughing

1162
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: the passer, all of which converted into big plays when

1163
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: the Giants were out of it. Like I watched that

1164
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: game because I was invested, and it was so frustrating

1165
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: because the Giants, the Broncos defense kept giving it back

1166
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: to the Giants again and again and again. So to me,

1167
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: this was about spot about perception and about individual matchup.

1168
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: Broncos defensive edge Nick Benito versus Dak Prescott, check's choice

1169
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos minus three.

1170
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: Are you ready for the prime time spotlight?

1171
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: Because I know there's a couple games in here that

1172
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: we want to talk about that I think are really interesting.

1173
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: We're going to bet these games. People are going to

1174
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: think about these games. It's going to be exciting to

1175
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: sweat these games. At the end of Sunday and Monday,

1176
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: first game, Green Bay at Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh is down to

1177
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: three from three and a half. You keep on this

1178
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: game Sunday night. I hope people were listening, because I

1179
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: bet it at three and a half. I know you

1180
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: did two. How do we feel at three?

1181
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: Still on Pittsburgh?

1182
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 4: But I also got I got some calls from some

1183
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: guys about it, so it's nice to see the number

1184
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 4: moved our way.

1185
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: I know some pros are.

1186
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: Really like green Bay in the spot, so still confident it,

1187
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: but obviously I wish people could have got the three

1188
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 4: and a half, and I think we might be able

1189
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: to still get back there, Like if pros really liked

1190
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: the green Bay this much, maybe we'll get back up

1191
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: to it. The view they have, which I agree with,

1192
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 4: which I understand they're coming to the market with is

1193
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 4: Parsians look like he finally has gotten right with that

1194
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 4: defense last week against Brissett. Isn't this quarterback the exact

1195
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 4: same as what he went against last week? A quarterback

1196
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: that can't move that much, that's older in the pocket,

1197
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 4: And I get that. I just I think we both agree.

1198
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 4: I just don't not trust this Green Bay team. I

1199
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: don't think they're good. And it's like, isn't this a

1200
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 4: Tomlin spot and Tomlin number? Like a three and a half?

1201
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 4: Three plus three dog at home Sunday night?

1202
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: I wonder what Mike Tomlin is going to say about that.

1203
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 6: I try to keep it real simple. Football is our game.

1204
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: Our business is winning and when we went into business

1205
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 6: is being handled and would you not is not.

1206
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: I just Aaron Rodgers against green Bay, all of it.

1207
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: I can't get away from it. It's killing me, Like

1208
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: I love this when I'm so torn. Here there's pros

1209
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 4: and the other side, because I thought this was going

1210
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 4: to be Jose verisspros just like these other games where

1211
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 4: it's like public will be all over green Bay, the

1212
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 4: professionals will bet Pittsburgh just because this is such a

1213
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 4: matchup where Pittsburgh got embarrassed the last time we saw them,

1214
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: they got lit up by Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco made

1215
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 4: fun of them, basically saying he didn't even know the offense.

1216
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 4: He just needed to he knew if he just waited,

1217
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: there's gonna be windows in that defense because Pittsburgh runs

1218
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: the same exact defense even when they're giving up thirty

1219
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 4: points in the game. They didn't change their defense the

1220
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 4: entire game. So if that's not a rally week from

1221
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 4: Tomlin this weekend, that defense, right, I feel like we

1222
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 4: have to pay for the lost chat, like this is

1223
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: just a game we can't avoid if we backed tom

1224
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 4: and are certain spots we know when to fade it.

1225
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: Physic we have a really good rhythm with Tomlin, know

1226
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 4: when to back and when to go against him.

1227
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: Somebody got to be all in. For everybody to be

1228
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: all in, we might bite the bullet here. This might

1229
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: be a bad one.

1230
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: The pros might be right on Green Bay, but I

1231
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 4: can't avoid it, especially at plus three and a half.

1232
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: Couldn't avoid it plus three. Still love it, Still think

1233
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 4: they should be under under our field goal. Good value

1234
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 4: to me on this Pittsburgh team, and I'm shocked, I

1235
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 4: really am that it came down. I really thought we

1236
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 4: would be able to get give out three and a

1237
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 4: half on the show. But yeah, early professional money is

1238
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 4: coming on Pittsburgh.

1239
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

1240
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin nine two and three against the spread as

1241
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,479
Speaker 1: a dog of three or more at home.

1242
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 6: Thanks to Kim Sports, made an opportunity to get a

1243
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 6: quality dude at a discount like what we're talking about.

1244
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: The thing I can't get out of my head is,

1245
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, I love Matt Lafleur and I was on

1246
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: the Packers a few weeks ago off of Thereby because

1247
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: I thought he would have sort of fixed a lot

1248
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: of the challenges this offense has been having, and they

1249
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: still looked bad against the Cardinals. Like, they have talent

1250
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: all over the field, Josh Jacobs, Tucker Craft, Jordan Love,

1251
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: the defense has Micah Parsons. They've got really good players,

1252
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: and they don't seem to be able to figure out

1253
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: how to be a great, complimentary, awesome team right now.

1254
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: They had a good game against the Lions, and who knows,

1255
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: maybe that was just a flukey game for the Lions,

1256
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: right and so it's hard to look back at that

1257
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: game and think, oh, the Packers are amongst the elite

1258
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now.

1259
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: And that's what this line is saying.

1260
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's discounting a little bit of the

1261
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: success the Steelers have had and the fact that the

1262
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: last time anyone saw them was against the Bengals. But

1263
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: don't forget this is now. The Steelers have basically have

1264
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: had one game in almost four weeks, right because they

1265
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: had the buye heading into the Bengals game, and now

1266
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: they've been off for ten days. So it's just another

1267
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: chance for them to get healthy and to get better

1268
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: and make adjustments.

1269
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 3: And Mike Tomlin.

1270
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: At home as a dog after a game that he's lost,

1271
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: he just gets better.

1272
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: You know, we can't avoid it.

1273
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: We can't avoid it.

1274
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: We love it, Washington and Kansas City. So listen, this

1275
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: game's at ten and a half. Kansas City's a ten

1276
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: and a half points crazy. Obviously it was four and

1277
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: a half on Sunday afternoon.

1278
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 3: I will tell you that.

1279
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: As soon as Jadeen Daniels limped off the field on Sunday,

1280
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: I went to try to bat Kansas City at minus

1281
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: four and a half and it was showing it was available,

1282
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't accept my ticket.

1283
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: Here's my question.

1284
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: That's also how you get banned.

1285
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: You know, I've been banned.

1286
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm down to two places I can bet in Connecticut.

1287
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: This game, do we have to ask ourselves forget about

1288
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: passing it because jade Daniels isn't playing and we've lost

1289
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: six points of value? Do we have to think about

1290
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs because from a matchup point of view,

1291
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: maybe we are getting value. Maybe the Commanders are actually

1292
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: still should be thirteen point underdogs.

1293
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: Shure. I don't know.

1294
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 4: It's tough because Mariota, honestly, this year is not that big.

1295
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 4: In my mom I'm not that big of a grade

1296
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 4: of a step down paid And because Ja and Dan

1297
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 4: has been hurt all year, he's been playing on a

1298
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 4: bum leg and he's not look good.

1299
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: We're Mariota. I know, he's up and down. That's that's

1300
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: Mariota's style.

1301
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 4: Like he's gonna run for twenty yards and maybe throw

1302
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 4: a six sixty yard bomb in the next pass. Fumble it,

1303
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 4: the fumble, the snap. It's just that's the Mario experience.

1304
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 4: That's why he's a backup.

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Speaker 2: But ten and a half, it's a lot of points

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Speaker 2: here at hard Rock, that's a lot of points. So

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Speaker 2: I'm tempted to do it.

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Speaker 4: I know the Chiefs look like an aster jogger gernaut

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Speaker 4: and like the best team of football, which they are,

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01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 4: but that Raiders thing was unique. That's a team they hate,

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Speaker 4: a team that talks smack about them, a team that

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Speaker 4: I think their dB was putting up a picture of

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Speaker 4: Kermit the Kermit the Frog or yeah, and like something

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Speaker 4: like mocking Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: So it's like.

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Speaker 4: They they thoroughly embarrassed that that Raiders team.

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Speaker 2: They literally, I don't know if you watched into that

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Speaker 2: Chiefs game.

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Speaker 4: They put a backup in h with like a minute

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Speaker 4: go in the third quarter, and they basically kneeled down

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game, even though they're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to punt anyway back to the Raiders. They were

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Speaker 4: just like, we're not gonna run a play against you guys.

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01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 4: That's how like they're not gonna run the clock out.

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Speaker 4: So I just think it's a lot to ask on Homes.

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Speaker 4: We talked to those stats. He just doesn't blow teams out.

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01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 4: They just don't show everything usually. That Raiders one felt

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01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 4: like personal where Washington God willing chat. We get down

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Speaker 4: by twenty one in the third quarter, we're gonna be

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01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 4: alive with Mariota, like he's never gonna stop fighting. So

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna force this one in because I don't

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Speaker 4: have it's Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: We have no idea.

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Speaker 4: If mclaurin's playing, You have no idea, if Deebo's playing,

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Speaker 4: if Mario doesn't have.

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Speaker 2: The number one, number two receiver. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: this is a thirteen and a half.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not gonna be putting money into this Washington team.

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Speaker 4: And I'm happy to do what I did last week

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Speaker 4: with the Chiefs. Throw them in a teaser, get the

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01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 4: number down lower, even though I didn't need to.

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Speaker 2: It's just I always feel more comfortable doing that in

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Speaker 2: the home.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, this is a game where you said we

1345
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 4: missed it. We should have got the Chiefs. We knew

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 4: Daniels probably wasn't gonna play this one anyone. They got

1347
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 4: that early number. Great play. At this point, it just

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01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 4: feels like it's either Washington, me or Chief said Teaser.

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01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 4: It's just that feels like the only option.

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Speaker 3: All right, So.

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Speaker 1: We like Baltimore six and a half. We're thinking about

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01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: New England minus seven. Simon says is Houston minus one,

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01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: Carolina plus seven and a half has brass balls potential.

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Speaker 3: Who else are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: It'sburgh den We'll also Indie minus thirteen and a half, uh,

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Speaker 1: Denver minus three, Pittsburgh plus three and a half. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a hard it's a hard week. There's just you know,

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Speaker 1: there's there's fewer games, so significantly fewer games. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's what we're thinking about. That's what we're leaning. Hopefully

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: people can get get some of these numbers before they move.

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01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: That Denver line is definitely gonna move soon. This has

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Speaker 1: been sharper square part of the Volume podcast Network. We

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Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday with the games we are

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Speaker 1: narrowing down, plus our Survivor pick Our head to head

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