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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mother Knows Death. Well, we have a very

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Speaker 1: unusual situation to talk about today. We got news this

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Speaker 1: week that someone that we interviewed in the past as

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Speaker 1: an expert on this show was just murdered. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the circumstances surrounding that because it's

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Speaker 1: a little outrageous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, on Wednesday, I got an email from a listener.

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Speaker 2: So this is why it's very important that you email

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Speaker 2: us at the stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: a listener named Patricia from Australia sent me an email

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Speaker 2: Wednesday that said she was just watching the news and

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Speaker 2: she said, I recognize somebody that was on one of

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Speaker 2: your very early external exams, doctor Stephen lynn Worth a Google.

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Speaker 2: So then I see the attached headline that she sent

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Speaker 2: that says disgrace celebrity dentists shot by police after attacking

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Speaker 2: two women.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets crazier though, Like so, so Maria tells

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Speaker 1: me and I was like, oh my god, why do

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Speaker 1: you get shot? And go ahead tell them you guys

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Speaker 1: are just not even gonna believe this, So we had

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Speaker 1: doctor Stephen Lynn on the very beginning of Mother Nos Death.

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Speaker 1: We launched on November first, twenty twenty three, and he

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Speaker 1: was on I think on January fifteenth, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: like weeks after we launched, right and it was a

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Speaker 1: really good conversation you guys had. This was before I

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Speaker 1: joined for interviews too, but he came on our show

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Speaker 1: at this time. He's this best selling author. He has

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of followers on social media, he had

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Speaker 1: a successful podcast, he was married with five kids. He

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Speaker 1: was seemingly pretty put together, and I just really listened

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Speaker 1: I don't remember any problems with the episode. I thought

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Speaker 2: And the episode was really well received. And I the

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Speaker 2: only thing I remembered off the top of my head

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Speaker 2: about it was we had to record it was either

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Speaker 2: really early for us or him due to the time difference,

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Speaker 2: and then we had connection issues via this program that

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Speaker 2: we used, so we did it on zoom. So like,

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Speaker 2: the sound quality is not one hundred percent the best,

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Speaker 2: but the interview's pretty good. But this week, he, I guess,

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Speaker 2: broke into an apartment building and had been going through

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Speaker 2: her while she was just working from home, and then

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Speaker 2: He came out them with the knife. They tasted him,

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Speaker 2: it didn't work, and they had to end up shooting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, so, I mean that's not the

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Speaker 1: like what's been going on in his life that got

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Speaker 1: him to that point, because you wouldn't think why would

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, especially because they were saying they don't think

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Speaker 2: It was a completely random attack, and he had pinned

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Speaker 2: he had mentioned to you that he had five kids

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Speaker 2: with meth and around mid twenty twenty four, so important

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Speaker 2: he just totally spiraled out of control. He had other

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's actually really a shame for his kids. And

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Speaker 1: And then you have five kids with a person. I mean, like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't understand it. And like, I listen

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Speaker 2: just so put together. He sounded like a really good

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Speaker 2: then we just look at his Instagram and he was

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Speaker 1: It's it's really surprising to me actually, especially his drug

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Speaker 1: And it's like the drug of choice he's doing is meth,

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Speaker 1: which is probably the worst drug to do on It

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Speaker 1: He his whole thing was like a mouth brain connection,

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Speaker 2: And it's like how did he get there?

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Speaker 2: Like was he always dabbling in it to some extent

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, totally. It's like so random.

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Speaker 1: There's like so many things that could go down. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's kind of crazy because like he was

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand followers on Instagram. That's pretty significant,

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Speaker 2: I mean beating up people and stealing money from them

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Speaker 2: He had a hit podcast, he had a very prestigious

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Speaker 2: I'm really curious about it. I mean, I feel terrible

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Speaker 1: Go through that. I'm assuming, like, I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: even though your personal life is your personal life, Like

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like that shit, like in

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Speaker 1: a family environment, like you're cheating on your wife and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like what caused him to stop being

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Speaker 2: Nothing specific as of now. I assume more information's gonna

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Speaker 1: I get.

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Speaker 2: It's also really important to note that the two women

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the woman that he attacked in

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Speaker 2: But how scary that they're just like the one lady's

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Lynn is a functional dentist, author of best selling

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, I mean I was always actually insta kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds cool. So when you so you went

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Speaker 3: And there's actually a big connection into nutrition and to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really crazy with this case because this guy,

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Speaker 1: of the first things when we started learning the GI

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Speaker 1: track is that the mouth and the teeth are the

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Speaker 1: first part of the GI track, So it is it's

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Speaker 1: weird that in medicine though it's not counted that way.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, these are these pretty little cosmetic things

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Speaker 1: in the front of your mouth where they're so important

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Speaker 1: because if that doesn't work, it could just cause problems

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Speaker 1: for the rest of your GI track. So it's interesting

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Speaker 1: that you just said that, because a couple weeks ago

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Speaker 1: I interviewed a GI specialist who was talking about like

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Speaker 1: leaky gut in microbiome and stuff, and I know, you

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Speaker 1: just don't really think about that. I guess it starts

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Speaker 1: in the mouth and then that's how it ends up

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Speaker 1: causing pathology in the rest of the body.

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Speaker 3: Really, absolutely and leaky gut and intestinal permeability is one

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Speaker 3: of the biggest kind of progressions in medisine where where

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Speaker 3: medical practitioners are kind of switching on to the fact that, hey,

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Speaker 3: when your digestive system is leaky, when the barrier isn't

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Speaker 3: working well, you've got ninety percent of your immune system

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Speaker 3: sitting in the gut. And then what happens is you

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Speaker 3: get this cross talk between what you eat and your

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Speaker 3: environment and your immune system, and the whole thing goes

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Speaker 3: hey wire. And they're showing that chronic diseases are all

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Speaker 3: connected to how the gut is interfacing with this barrier.

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Speaker 3: So they said, leaky gut, you get all these conditions

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Speaker 3: like all roo immune conditions, digestive issues, and eating the brain.

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Speaker 3: Like the gut brain connection is the big discussion there

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Speaker 3: as well. But gums is the first sign of that

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Speaker 3: intestinal permeanability starting to happen. And it's also the verst

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Speaker 3: sign that you can measure the bacterial changes that are

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Speaker 3: beginning to shift that will end up and being intestinal

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Speaker 3: permeability or leaky guts. So if people had their eyes closely,

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Speaker 3: you know, focused on their oral health, we can get

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Speaker 3: such a powerful connection to preventive medicine that is like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so you've got bleeding gum, now you need to fix

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Speaker 3: your diet, how you're sleeping, how you're breathing. These kind

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Speaker 3: of things are at easy preventative measures that we can

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Speaker 3: get control of the whole system.

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Speaker 1: On your Instagram, you show videos and I like them

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Speaker 1: because they're very quick and to the point, but they're

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Speaker 1: very specific to children. And I have two. I have

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Speaker 1: three kids, but I have two little kids that are

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Speaker 1: still forming. And when I when I watch your videos,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm such a bad parent.

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Speaker 1: Like everything, everything that you're saying not to do, I do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to go through these things because I

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Speaker 1: think that like lots of people that are listeners or parents,

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Speaker 1: and and I want to have some of your advice

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Speaker 1: as far as as how to get your kids out

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Speaker 1: of this or if you've done damage already, that's too late.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that you say is that kids

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have cereal or period fruit. So I mean, I

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Speaker 1: feed my kid's cereal breakfast for breakfast every day, and

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Speaker 1: they have like those those fruit pouches. They like those

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Speaker 1: things too. And you were also talking about which was

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Speaker 1: kind of mind blowing to me is that you have

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Speaker 1: some control over your kids having crooked teeth. Can you

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Speaker 1: explain that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, So, the dentists that I spoke about in the

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Speaker 3: nineteen thirties showed that our diet in one generation, when

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Speaker 3: you eat the modern diet and when we go off

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Speaker 3: ancestrally what humans were eating for thousand thousand years, our

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Speaker 3: teeth become crooked and decay goes up to thirty percent

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Speaker 3: where the modern race are and kids to the the

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Speaker 3: biggest sufferers of dental decay today. You know, fifty percent

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Speaker 3: of kids have a hole around the Western world by

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Speaker 3: the age of six, and these numbers are rising. And

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Speaker 3: the issue is that we've seen it as a both

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Speaker 3: a brushing problem and a sugar problem. And the sugar

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Speaker 3: problem is right, but it's superficial in the way that

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Speaker 3: we understand why dental disease is happening in kids when

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Speaker 3: we feed them, you know, carbohydrate laden food. So the

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Speaker 3: studies show that both sugar and simple flowers which turns

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Speaker 3: into sugar. So when you chew like a bread or

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Speaker 3: like a cracker or like a grain, it turns basically

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Speaker 3: into sugar. Carbohydrate breaks down and that carbohydrect breaks to sugar,

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Speaker 3: and it's metabolized in a very similar way by the

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Speaker 3: bacteria that fuels decay. So carbohydrates fuel decay in a

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Speaker 3: very similar way as sugar. So that's why I try

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Speaker 3: to get parents to kind of think when a child

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Speaker 3: has carbohydrates, it's very similar to sugars. So any kind

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Speaker 3: of grains, any kind of passes, kind of any kind

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Speaker 3: of uh, you know, the cereals and so forth, all

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Speaker 3: has these simple cup hydrates in them, and kids are

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Speaker 3: just that they're just locked on. Once they have these

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Speaker 3: kind of foods, they're very difficult to feed anything else

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Speaker 3: I've got. I've got five kids, all under five and

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Speaker 3: coming through it's it's it's crazy. But like so what

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Speaker 3: I've tried to implement with it, it is like, so

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Speaker 3: if you give them nutrient dense foods, can we change

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Speaker 3: their palate? Can we change the way there their their

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Speaker 3: food craving systems work. But the key is fat solble

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Speaker 3: theres vitamin D that is actually the core regulator of

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Speaker 3: how the skeletal system grows and develops. So vitamin D

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Speaker 3: is how our teeth mineralized, how our bones mineralize, and

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Speaker 3: we are a population that is deficient in vitolin and D.

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Speaker 3: And this is what these dentists the dirty show that

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Speaker 3: he showed that traditional cultures ate foods that were heavy

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Speaker 3: in fat solble vitamin So this is like fatty meat,

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Speaker 3: it's like organs, it's like eggs, dairy, all of these

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Speaker 3: things have fat sold vitamin that's vitamin A, vitamin D,

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Speaker 3: and vitamin K two which not many people have heard of.

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Speaker 3: There's actually a partner for vitamin D. And what they

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Speaker 3: do is we know that vitamin D. For instance, when

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Speaker 3: you're adequate in vitamin D, your body absorbs calcium. So

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Speaker 3: if you're deficient in vitamin D, which everyone should get

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Speaker 3: tested for, and even kids too, So if your child

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Speaker 3: has any kind of DENTALI issue, you should know they're

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Speaker 3: vitamin D levels because the simple thing you can help

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Speaker 3: reduce their rates of decay and so forth. And what happens, though,

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Speaker 3: is that when you have low vitamin D, the klebs

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Speaker 3: will go up. So if we eat foods that are

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Speaker 3: rich in vitamin D, you have to eat fat, you

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Speaker 3: have to eat saturated fat, you have to eat foods

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Speaker 3: that are whole animal fats that carry these nutrients because

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Speaker 3: vitamin D doesn't come in many foods. It doesn't come

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Speaker 3: in in grain, it doesn't come in reds, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: come in any kind of you know, fruit product, even vegetables,

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Speaker 3: So plant products don't have these nutrients. They are only

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Speaker 3: in animal based foods that are heavily based around the

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Speaker 3: consumption of fat. So the idea of a quite eating

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Speaker 3: fat instead instead of sugar is kind of a brain

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Speaker 3: switch for a lot of parents, but it's critical for

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Speaker 3: their growth and development because it switches on all their foremones.

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Speaker 3: It nourishes their scaltal system, it heals their guts, so

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Speaker 3: the digestive system and the intestinal all works well. Because

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Speaker 3: animal products are full of collagen, which is full of

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Speaker 3: the amino acids that line the gut, the gut line,

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Speaker 3: so the skin, we know the coulogroens create the skin.

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Speaker 3: We know the vitamin as the skin. Well, the skin

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Speaker 3: is a barrier just like the gut, and it's just

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Speaker 3: like the gums as well, and so it needs a

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Speaker 3: lot of vitamin A and collagen and vitamin D to

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Speaker 3: have a strong lining. And you want kids to have

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Speaker 3: a strong lining because children today suffer from these inflammatory,

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Speaker 3: leaky gut issues. They have swollen adnoids and tonsils, they

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Speaker 3: have exma and they have asthma. They have these inflammatory

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Speaker 3: conditions because their gut lighting isn't working well because they

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Speaker 3: don't have these nutrients that help them to form a

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Speaker 3: strong immune barrier with the wall, so they're not having

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Speaker 3: reactive symptoms. And then the flow on effect, which is

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Speaker 3: quite a rabbit hole, is that once you get this

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Speaker 3: inflammatory profile, you begin to breathe through the mouth, So

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Speaker 3: a lot of kids breathing through the mouth at night

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Speaker 3: and both noticeably in the day as well. This deforms

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Speaker 3: their craning fashion facial structure. So what happens is that

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Speaker 3: the teeth begin to form crooked because they're not breathing

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Speaker 3: well and they're not getting the nutrients. So when you

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Speaker 3: have this jaw, then that is not growing as well.

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Speaker 3: The airway isn't developed and the child can't breathe through

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Speaker 3: their nose. Their nose is blocked up, their adnoids and

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Speaker 3: tonsils are swollen, they their gut is inflamed, and they

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Speaker 3: have you know, inflammatory leisures, and then their jaws don't develop.

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Speaker 3: That's why get teeth because they don't breathe well and

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Speaker 3: they're not getting the nutrients that are messaging with the

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Speaker 3: body to grow and develop the face so that the

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Speaker 3: thirty two human teeth that we all should grow and develop,

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Speaker 3: which so the vast majority of human history have grown,

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Speaker 3: are now not developing in our children. And you can

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Speaker 3: spot the signs very quickly between north and five. Basically

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Speaker 3: you have all the kids that you should the twenty teeth,

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Speaker 3: the pop up if there are any bite issues, if

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Speaker 3: there are any kind of problems like kind of mouth breathing,

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Speaker 3: or pacify use, or thumbsucking, or tongue ties or breastfeeding issues,

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Speaker 3: all of these things contribute to how the child grows

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Speaker 3: and develops, and so we can actually intervene. Now, do

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Speaker 3: you help a child in the early age. You can

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Speaker 3: grow their palates, so we can do this in our

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Speaker 3: clinic all the time now where we can grow them

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Speaker 3: into intervention orthodomics where we try to get the child

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Speaker 3: to eat better, but we also help authopedically grow the

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Speaker 3: jaw so that their airway opens up and then the

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Speaker 3: child can sleep better and that they're postures bitter, they're

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Speaker 3: standing straight and they're not kind of open mouth and

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Speaker 3: tongue hanging out and so forth. That's how teeth developed

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Speaker 3: teeth moved as a result of what we eat, function

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Speaker 3: and plultually behave. We think it's kind of like these

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Speaker 3: end stage that it's already done, but it's actually an

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Speaker 3: environmental input that we all control and parents have a

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Speaker 3: big control over too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because it's really interesting that you're saying

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Speaker 1: this because I have a nine and a ten year old.

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Speaker 1: And my ten year old eats pretty well and her

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Speaker 1: teeth are pretty straight and normal. My nine year old

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Speaker 1: has a ton of she has a ton of problems.

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Speaker 1: She was diagnosed with a weird autoimmune thing called chronic

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Speaker 1: non infectious OSTEO. My latest and her blood you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been getting blood work. She's inflammatory, markers are high

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Speaker 1: all the time, her vitamin D was low, all of

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Speaker 1: this stuff, and her teeth are are jacked right, like

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Speaker 1: we say, so she has to get an expander put

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Speaker 1: is that what you're talking about? That thing they're putting

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Speaker 1: on the roof of her mouth, Like next week, she's

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Speaker 1: getting that done. So I do see. But but more importantly,

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Speaker 1: she's a horrible eater. I can't I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time getting her. She doesn't really ever want meat. I

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Speaker 1: can't even get this kid to to want to eat

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Speaker 1: a crappy like a McDonald's chicken nugget. She just doesn't

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Speaker 1: like meat and it's hard for me. So that was

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Speaker 1: my next question is is how do you feel about

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Speaker 1: the the vegan and vegetarian diet and like supplementing all

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Speaker 1: of these things, Like if you're getting protein from pee

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Speaker 1: and you're getting like vitamin D from taking vitamins, is

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Speaker 1: that an adequate substitute or not? Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so first thing, you mean, I feel

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Speaker 3: to know the journey your daughter's going through, Like it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's good that you find picked it up now

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00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: because it can all be kind of changed. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: but it's so many people now that are experiencing these

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Speaker 3: you know, these autoimmune conditions earlier on in life, Like

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Speaker 3: do you remember kids that had autoimmune issues when you

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Speaker 3: were growing up? Like this wasn't happening, right, Like, it

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00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: just wasn't happening. And so but if we if we

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Speaker 3: kind of go to the root causes of what causes

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Speaker 3: an autoimmune issue, is that it's it's the gut, it's

650
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: the intestinal permeability. And then so if we heal the gut,

651
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: we can we can we can change that, like it's

652
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: completely reversible. And then so it's great that so you've

653
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: gone down the road of understanding the bloods and so forth.

654
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: So we know that she's low envitamin D. So to me,

655
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: there's there's there's kind of the biggest strategy here when

656
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: we see a nine year old child that this developmentally,

657
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 3: she's right in the big broad space. So it's really

658
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: key to do this kind of expansion phase now because

659
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: her adult teeth being are now replacing her kids see

660
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: that happens between seven and twelve. She's in the middle,

661
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: and their jaws are like jelly. They grow like jelly.

662
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: It's amazing. And so if they do expansive my functional work,

663
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: which is like interventional orthodontics, it helps to grow the paler.

664
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: Now there's a nutrient problem where where we have deficiencies

665
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: which can be helped through supplementation. There's a dietary issue

666
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: where and this is the problem with God, I've got

667
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: young girls and feeding them is difficult, like battle them

668
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: to eat meat. It's hard. So it's like this is

669
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: a problem that all parents are experiencing. It's like and

670
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: there's this messaging out there that you know, menat is

671
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: kind of bad view and stuff that I think kids

672
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: are picking up a fabin two. Even on kids shows,

673
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: if you watched everything they are shown that is healthy

674
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: is all fruits and vegetables, and there's nothing about eating meat.

675
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: So I don't think there's something about the psyche there

676
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: with kids that they're kind of a little bit turned

677
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: off me in the sense. But then the other thing too,

678
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: is that the digestive system, it's very energy tending to

679
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: digest meat, and for a child that hasn't eaten kind

680
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: of animal products for some time, or they've been offered

681
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: or they've had a condition where it's like it's it's

682
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: affected their diet, it's like we have to kind of

683
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: think of the strategy to get the digestive system. We'll

684
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: workless so that they want to eat meat, because they

685
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: want to eat it. It's just that their body needs

686
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: to kind of have the messaging rights so that they

687
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: so that they feel like they can. Because a person

688
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: that is, for instance, transitioning off a vegan to vegetarian

689
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: diet will feel almost adverse to meat by the smells

690
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: and by the father the digestic pain they have from

691
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: doing that. So it's quite a process. So we need

692
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: to think about how we get the digestive system work,

693
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 3: and sometimes we need to digestive endymes and so forth

694
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: that help to break down foods because meats are broken

695
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: down in the small intestine, so it's very quick in

696
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: terms of the digestive process, doesn't go into the larger

697
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: tests on. All of the nutrients are extracted from the

698
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: small intestine, and this requires bile release from the liver.

699
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: So when when a person doesn't eat a lot of meat,

700
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: you don't get a lot of bile release just by

701
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: the functionality of it. So we have to prime all

702
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: that to happen again. So sometimes the jestic enzymes. Sometimes

703
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: things like you know, as the started an apple cider,

704
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: beating it just before just before meals, like a very

705
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: diluted shot of it can help to we're trying to

706
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: think of the acinity of the stummach. But supplements can help,

707
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: especially in children. The kind of most definitive way to

708
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: kind of correct this kind of stuff and children is

709
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: kind of beef liver, So des scated beef liver. You

710
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: can somehow anyway sneak that into something that will give

711
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: them this the full spectrum. I think it's difficult otherwise

712
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: I believe this.

713
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: I meet her a smoothie once and I snuck two

714
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: pieces of like spinach in it, just with the fruit,

715
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: and she picked it up that it was off, like

716
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to just like, yeah, make it strawberry

717
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: smoothie and just put some like beef liver in there.

718
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: She just you know what I mean, Like I just

719
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: think her, no, no.

720
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: Totally, I'm totally Lydio. Like it's like we were so

721
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: I would use to give cod little role to our kids.

722
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: I'd just pour it in their milk when they were younger,

723
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: and like they're all onto it now, like that that

724
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: they washed me at the fridge and they're like if

725
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: I pour anything in their milk, they're smelling it. And

726
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: it's like and like so and they're they're under five, right,

727
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: so I can't do it anymore. So it's like we

728
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: have to sneak it in by a kind of beef

729
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: mince and like it's it's really really hard, and like

730
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: it's because their palates are kind of shooted to this

731
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 3: modern part of your Blander diet. You know, liber tastes

732
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: really strange, So it's hard. Supplementation can works. So if

733
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: we know, for instance, child's lower vitamin D bottom D

734
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: supplementation should be an absolute mus because we know that

735
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: that we know that there's there's benefits there both to

736
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 3: kind of raise the levels, but then for the all

737
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: the subsequent issues that associated with auto immune issues. For instance,

738
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: I'd be looking to get her levels up probably between

739
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: sixty to eighty nagres fermilla lea, which macing quite high,

740
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: but we would want to see her autoimmune markers come

741
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: right down. And you have to remember too that vitamin

742
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: D also runs the immune system as well, so it

743
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: actually there's on every immune cell there's a vitamin D receptor,

744
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: and so once the immune system gets enough vitamin D,

745
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: it calms down, so all of the inflammatory autoimmune messages

746
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: calm down. So the body needs enough vitamin D to

747
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: come inst down first, but then once it gets enough,

748
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 3: then it has to go to work to start mineralizing

749
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: the tea and start mineralizing the bones. So you need

750
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: an adequate vitamin D and and support nutrients in order

751
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: for the body to then start to work on the teeth.

752
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: First thing is to get the inflammatory markets down, the

753
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: digestive issues, and the autoimmune markers, but then the teeth there.

754
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: It did come later. So high vitamin D levels is

755
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: where we want to go with its support nutrients. Vitamin

756
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: D should always be taken with vitamin K two. We

757
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: should be thinking about some kind of vitamin A potentially

758
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: because it's a partner with VITTOM and D. And then

759
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: the big one that I'm seeing a lot in kids

760
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: especially don't a lot of meat, is iron levels. So

761
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: iron is off so low in kids today and it

762
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: affects their sleep. And then so with iron, just putting

763
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: iron is difficult. So you need B twelve, you need

764
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: fole eight, you need the active B vitamins. And one

765
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: thing that affects these is the mt hf ar gene.

766
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: Have you heard of that one?

767
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: I think I've heard of it, But do you want

768
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: to do you want to explain it?

769
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: So the mt hf far gene is a methylation gene.

770
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: And what it does is it's a very simple swap

771
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: test that you can get very commonly in America. It's

772
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: very easy to get. And what it tells you is

773
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: is a couple of the genes that sometimes get switched

774
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: shop epigenetically. So it's not like in our inheritance. It's

775
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: like in our environment. And what these MTh genes do

776
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: is they methylate nutrient pathways. So if a child or

777
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: an adult has mthf far, the nutrient pathways don't work

778
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: very well. And these include the FOLL eight pathway, the

779
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: B twelve pathway, and the B six pathway. And what

780
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: happens is that they don't efficiently take in these b viottoments.

781
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: So you eat and you can get these from plant foods,

782
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: but they don't efficiently convert them into their active forms.

783
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: Then you get these systems that are all gummed up

784
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: and they're not working with They have deficiencies, but they

785
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: also have the build up of what's called homos disting,

786
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: and that's something to check as well. So when you

787
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: have high homer system, that's an inflammatory marker that means

788
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: your body and your liver is basically kind of trying

789
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 3: to deal with this methylation pathways that aren't working very well.

790
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: The end stage is oft an iron efficiency. Iron requires

791
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: all these be nutrients to work. But if a child

792
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: has mt hf par, you can supplement the methylated sp

793
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: the methylated bees that help the pathways move and the

794
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: whole thing just works better. So the child is completely

795
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: free of the problems of the methipulation issue. Now that

796
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: helps their metabolism start to work, then we can start

797
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: to okay, so iron levels will hopefully start to come

798
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: up because their bees are working a bit better. Then

799
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: we can start working on fat sol the vitamins which

800
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 3: are the real stores, the D, the A, the K

801
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: two that help to kind of build the bone, build

802
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: and build them and build the teeth as well. One

803
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: thing too with palatal expansion is that often you get

804
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 3: sleep issues. So when a child has a narrow pallette,

805
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: they struggle to breathe through the nose at night and

806
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: this will manifest with mouth breeding, teeth grinding restlessly, bed wetting,

807
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: night terrors. So poor sleep and poor sleep will make

808
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: all of everything we just spoke about worse because the

809
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: child can't get rest and they are in an autonomic

810
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: fight or flight sleep pattern. So doing expansion and building

811
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: and teaching the child to breach and those at night

812
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: and giving them the structure to helps all of this

813
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: as well. So when we work with the nutrients, when

814
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: we work on the structure, then the child then starts

815
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: to be kind of a bit different because they're sleeping,

816
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: they're feeling a bit better because they're rested. Like I

817
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: imagine choking all night, which a lot of children and

818
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: adults are doing. Now, that's what sleep up here is,

819
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: and how you feel in the morning. You feel anxious, right,

820
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: and you don't feel like kind of your digestive system

821
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: doesn't work because your brain doesn't get to restep that

822
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: through the night. So a lot of this is based

823
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: in sleep and how all these things time together to

824
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: make us feel.

825
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all so interesting. It's kind of like overwhelming

826
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: just to think about all these different things that are

827
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: going on in our bodies all at one time and

828
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: how to control them. Especially. I feel like with adults

829
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: it's a little bit easier and kids. You know, we

830
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: just had the same kid. I was talking about blood

831
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: work done and her iron's really low and I'm trying,

832
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, I try to say like, Okay, we're gonna

833
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: have to eat these foods, and she doesn't want you know,

834
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: she's nine. She doesn't want to. So it's just it's

835
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: just like all the time. But as far as the

836
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: vitamin D goes too, that's also a vitamin that we

837
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: get from going outside and being in the sun. Right,

838
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: do you think that this like huge movement. Because if

839
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: you ever go to one of the events like at

840
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: my kid's school or something, for instance, every parent's out

841
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: there like spraying all this suntan lotion on their skin.

842
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: Do you think that that has some kind of effect

843
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: as to what's getting absorbed?

844
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: It absolutely does. So bottom of D is a very

845
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: complex pathway to get to it exact for from some

846
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: it also involves the different rays of lots that you

847
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: have a different at the different times of day. So

848
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 3: when you don't expose yourself, and I think this also

849
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 3: concludes when you the age of exposure, so you don't

850
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 3: get exposure to sunlight when you're young, you don't have

851
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: systems right to be able to absorb bottom D to

852
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: its active form. And so that one of the big

853
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: factors to is cholesterol. So cholesterol is what is the

854
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: precursor to vitamin D. So precursor is stored in the

855
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: in the skin and you have the cholester you have

856
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: this cholesterol precursor in the skin. Light hits that precursor

857
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: and then it travels to the liver to be converted

858
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: to bottom of D. Then it has to go to

859
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: the kidney where it's activated with magnesium to become the

860
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: active form of vitamin D. If you don't either, if

861
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: you don't have a fat heavy diet, and you you

862
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: will have these these reactions the sunlight lay burning. So

863
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: it's like in in my kids, what I've done is

864
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: like I've kind of made sure they've had a lot

865
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 3: of fat heavy meat products and butters and eggs and everything.

866
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: They go out in the sun out and they're like,

867
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: you know, they've barely been burned. But we live in

868
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: Australia and the Australian uv is very strong. We obviously

869
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: don't fry them. But if they get morning exposure where

870
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: you can't burn in the morning, right, like you just

871
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: kind of get exposure, your body is primed for the

872
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 3: vitamin D creating light, which is between ten and two

873
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: pm depending on your geographical latitude. Then your body is

874
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 3: ready for us. So it's like just covering up kids

875
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 3: is like kind of you know, not the solution because

876
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 3: you're not letting them go through this process of forming

877
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: vitamin D. Yeah, they need to be like if you

878
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: live in the Arizona desert or something like that, they

879
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: need to be covered up here or there. But there

880
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: has to be some kind of consideration as to how

881
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: they're also getting the nutrient as well.

882
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been trying to. I I kind of have

883
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: switched my tune. I used to be this like one

884
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: cause because I work in pathology, so I see cancer

885
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: all the time. So I'm like always scared about this,

886
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: and I think that there's just we in medicine in general,

887
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: we go through these extremes that like, Okay, it's been

888
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: known that sunlight causes cancer, so just like, don't ever

889
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: have sun exposure again, and and there's a fine balance.

890
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: So I have been this year, I've been. I bought half,

891
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: if not seventy five percent as much of suntan lotion

892
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: as I normally do, and I let the kids go

893
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: out in the pool for a couple hours and they

894
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: come in and go out and come in and we

895
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: have we didn't have one sunburn at all that that

896
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: that had to be addressed. But they they got a

897
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: nice hand on their skin. And also I'm like they're

898
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: getting they're getting what they need from the sun. So

899
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: I was just curious on your thoughts about that because

900
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people are just so anti letting, you know,

901
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: letting your kids be outside without suntann lotion.

902
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: On. Yeah, it's a fact that like let me think

903
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: if your children or they have any suns to bottom

904
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: ded deficiency, like any kind of teeth, any kind of

905
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: you know, inflammatory autoimmunication, they need sunlight, they don't need it,

906
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: and you have to be kind of mindful. You know,

907
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: kid's skin is gentle, right, so like here, of course

908
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 3: you'll think about protection everything. But one strategy that's kind

909
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: of quite safe is like if parents are really nervous

910
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: about it, take them out into the sunlight before ten am,

911
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: because like before ten they're not going to burn, like

912
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: it's the angle of the sun is, you know, they're

913
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: not going to burn. Watch how their skin reacts to it,

914
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 3: and like, you know, feel comfortable because I know it's

915
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 3: you know, it's a little bit kind of nerve racking,

916
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: like thinking about burns and cancers and so forth. But

917
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 3: give them a few days where they just go out

918
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: into a full sun exposure before ten am and see

919
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: how the skin reacts, and you know, maybe take it

920
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 3: to a eleven am after that and then see how

921
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 3: they react to that. Because some kids will burn easier

922
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 3: and they have to be watched. That might be a

923
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: way to kind of step into it.

924
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: Getting back to what we were talking about with the

925
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: with the leaky gut and the microbiome and everything. What

926
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: do you think about oral allergy syndrome. It's something that

927
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing that I had when I was

928
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: a kid. Well I still have it now, and then

929
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: one of my kids has it too. And my mom

930
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: always jokes because she breastfed me till I was like

931
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: two years old, and she's just like, I did everything

932
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: right with you. I don't understand why you're allergic to everything.

933
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: And I mean I'm telling every single fruit and vegetable

934
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: I put my mouth like itches my mouth at some point,

935
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: but I still eat most of them anyway, and I

936
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: don't feel like it gives me any additional problems, but

937
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: especially with my little one, like I can't even really

938
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: get her to eat vegetables unless they're cooked. When they're cooked,

939
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: it doesn't do it. I'm just curious if that's part

940
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: of that whole process or if that's a whole other thing.

941
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: I would say it's related. So when so when we're

942
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 3: thinking about kind of algae, it's like your body telling

943
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: you I'm not liking that right, So like obviously we'd

944
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 3: be listening to what you know, is kind of creating

945
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: those reactions because it's like your body's saying, you know,

946
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm not that happy with that. But the kind of

947
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: the the the underlying cause is the is the gut line.

948
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 3: So remembering that the nine percent of the immune system

949
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: is down on the gut when we have allergic reactions,

950
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: so like stuff like you know, like if people are

951
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: too allergic, it's their immune system that is not happy

952
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 3: with the environment. So it's like instead of thinking, you know,

953
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: some people have like true allergies where it's like you know,

954
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: they kind of peen out there, kind of block and

955
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: so forth. Like that's there's a few kind of examples

956
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: of that, but things that are kind of like just

957
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 3: like inflammation like that, I kind of more think about

958
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: it as that again, something going on with the immune

959
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: system that is that is not making it not happy,

960
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: and it goes back to these deficiencies. It's like everyone

961
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: expresses this differently, and it's even the deficiencies are passed

962
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: from a breastfeeding marbler. So I'm really kind of tragically

963
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: seeing this in a lot of young kids now whose

964
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: parents are breastfeeding them and even feeding them, you know,

965
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: animal heavy diets because it's like an epigenetic thing that

966
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: is kind of related to both deficiencies in the parents.

967
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: So if the parents are deficient, if they don't have

968
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: adequate nutrients, it passes by the breast. The study show

969
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 3: that bottom D deficiency will pass through the breast book

970
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: from mother to child. So it's like we're passing on

971
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 3: these these things that are slowly getting worse generationally. And

972
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: then so then and then if you eat the modern diet,

973
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 3: you're going to get you to keep going down this track.

974
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: So it really kind of takes a reconnection to two

975
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: you know, historical levels of bottom the day. So like

976
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: it means kind of eating like liver, like it like

977
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: it means bone broke, which is I know, it turns

978
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: like it's weird.

979
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: Right, Like, well, it's just weird for me because I've

980
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: done so many autopsies and like I know, it has

981
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: the smell and the smell smell. It smells the same

982
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: in the cow as it doesn't, you know what I mean,

983
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: Like I have like that weird correlation thing. But maybe

984
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm sure my dad ate it as

985
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: a kid and stuff and it was fine, you know, Yeah,

986
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean.

987
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: That's yeah, because I've done you know, head and neck

988
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: dissections and everything. It's like, yeah, but the the flesh

989
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: side of things and put you know, when you're actually

990
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: kind of touching it or everything, it's a whole other

991
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 3: thing than buying something off the supermukel show, which is

992
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: probably actually part of you know, part of the prostitute.

993
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: We are a bit disconnected with how that connection to

994
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, how food reaches a plate and so forth.

995
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, like historically, if you look around, like traditional

996
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: cultures had organs and nose to tale eating cuisine, any

997
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: cuisine around the world, it's no to tail, it's like

998
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: liver everything. It's like they treasured these these parts of

999
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: the animal because they knew they created healthy kids. But

1000
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: they knew it. And so the Native Americans, you know,

1001
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: the buffalo, they would use every part of it, and

1002
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: they would eat like the even the colon, like full

1003
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: of of feces, even they would they would give that

1004
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: to females to eat because they knew the bacteria that

1005
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: would create good fertility and so forth. And the men

1006
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: would eat the testicles and so forth, because it's full

1007
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: testosterone and the bats of vitaments, and the liver is

1008
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: kind of like the dance part of the it's the

1009
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 3: most nutrient that's field on the planet. It's where the

1010
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: body stores all the nutrity. We kind of think of

1011
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 3: it as a as a portal for for toxins and everything,

1012
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 3: but it's actually where the body stores all the nutrients.

1013
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: And you'd probably follow that through, you know, through through

1014
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: all top of this and everything. How connected with the

1015
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: liver is everything to the body. Yeah, it's this weird

1016
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: kind of flip that we we've unlatually gone through. And

1017
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 3: it's difficult. You know, my kids, I struggled to get

1018
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: my kids won the straight So it's like we have

1019
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: to hide it. But you know, kind of as they

1020
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 3: grow upa I'm going to try to get them to

1021
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: think of it in the way that hey, you need

1022
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: to eat this. But it's going to be a challenge,

1023
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: is no doubt about that.

1024
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: So now I have an idea. I'm going to try

1025
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: to make like a liver a cookbook. It's like just thinking,

1026
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: I really like to cook. And it's and that's another

1027
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: thing too, because like when I was working at the

1028
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: hospital full time and my husband's a fire fighters so

1029
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: he works a lot too. We I just didn't have

1030
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: time to like cook real meals. I just didn't. I

1031
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: was getting home at like seven o'clock at night every night.

1032
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: And now that I'm doing this, i'm doing the podcasting

1033
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: and writing for my website, I have more of a

1034
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: flexible schedule that I could cook like real dinner for

1035
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: my family almost every night. And I do definitely see

1036
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: a change with that. But it's funny because I'm just

1037
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: trying to think, like, oh, what can I mix together

1038
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: to make liver taste more appealing to my family?

1039
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: Yes, it one night. Yeah, there's a fair There's a

1040
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: very few kind of uh you know, like kind of

1041
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: traditional cuisines that have some way I used to kind

1042
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: of that, but you can kind of hide it with

1043
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: his sources. It kind of hard liver. When it's cooked

1044
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: too much, it's it gets kind of really the smell

1045
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: comes out the roll liver is actually it is far

1046
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: less kind of taste to it. Uh yeah, kind of

1047
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 3: so if it's cooked much later and softer, so once

1048
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: it kind of get you right more it gets it's

1049
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: hard and kind of tough, and it's just not nice

1050
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: to eat. But like closer to you know, roared media,

1051
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 3: rare raw, it's like soft and like the tastes less overpowering,

1052
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: and it could be dised up with regular meals. Paters

1053
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: are kind of a way that you know, the French

1054
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: always used to do it as well. But it takes

1055
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: time too. That's it's so true that you know things

1056
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: like you know, the bone rolls and so forth. It

1057
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: takes time. It's it's it's definitely a less convenient way,

1058
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: but there's there's ways to do it, you know, there's

1059
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: modern ways to to to introduce this back to our

1060
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: family's diets.

1061
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: So that so in your book The antal Diet, do

1062
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: you I mean, obviously you have this whole connection to

1063
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: the body, not just for teeth in general. So is

1064
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: this stuff that you talk about in your book like

1065
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: different ways to introduce this kind of stuff into your

1066
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: family's diet.

1067
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, So it's a forty day playing in there

1068
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: with some meals and everything live a kind of you

1069
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: know where where where you can get it in. Yeah,

1070
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: the kind of the beef liver and the mids mix

1071
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: I find is good, but you know, pants and things

1072
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: of that. There's lots of recipes in there, but there's

1073
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: lots of ways to kind of go about it. But

1074
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: the dental diet is kind of my modernized version of

1075
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: what this this Daners was running in the thirties, and

1076
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Speaker 3: the modern science as to the breathing and the chronic

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Speaker 3: facial structure of the nutrients, the microbiro and the bacteria.

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Speaker 3: Like I was so interested in all this science that

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Speaker 3: I was never taught in dental school and everything we've

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Speaker 3: discussed here, I wasn't taught in dental school. So like,

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Speaker 3: I felt that parents out there needed to kind of

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Speaker 3: know that, hey, you can change your kids, you know,

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Speaker 3: trajectory with their health and their teeth if they eat

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Speaker 3: eat better. And so that's why I wrote the book

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Speaker 3: so that they could understand it, like trying to get

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Speaker 3: the signs simple, Like there's like three or four hundred

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Speaker 3: references in there, but I try to make it simple

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Speaker 3: for people to understand and also to the there's practical

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Speaker 3: applications and to kind of realize, you know, why we've

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Speaker 3: got the cereals and brains on now on our on

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Speaker 3: our breakfast tables now, and how we can reprogram ourselves

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Speaker 3: to to change that.

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Speaker 1: It's it's crazy because when I was working in the

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Speaker 1: pathology department like fifteen years ago, there was this pathologist,

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Speaker 1: and she was she was a gi pathologist, and she

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Speaker 1: was all on the leaky gut thing, and everybody kind

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Speaker 1: of thought she was like they thought she was a

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Speaker 1: fleak and she was hardcore, like no, you know, And

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Speaker 1: now I love it makes me feel good that she

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Speaker 1: that she was right about everything she was saying, because

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Speaker 1: everything she was saying sounded so good to me. And

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Speaker 1: so I love that you that you went on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and like, what, well, what did you do first? Did

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Speaker 1: you write the book first or you started the Instagram first?

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Speaker 3: I wrote the books, so I was yes, I wrote

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Speaker 3: the book first. And I was actually training dentists, so

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Speaker 3: I wasn't that big on kind of socials. So my

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Speaker 3: kind of first this approach was just like, hey, I

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Speaker 3: better get this out to dentist. And I was going

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Speaker 3: through America and Australia and so forth with a training

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Speaker 3: program for debnist to teach their patients how to kind

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Speaker 3: of understand this stuff. And it wasn't cutting through the

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Speaker 3: way that I would hope it too. And I got

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Speaker 3: this book deal in the US, which was like huge

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Speaker 3: in which came out in twenty eighteen, and it got

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Speaker 3: published in seven languages, which was like a big thing.

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Speaker 3: I was like, wow, so the audience here is actually

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Speaker 3: the consumer. It's actually the parents that the ones that

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Speaker 3: you need to switch the lights on because practitioners take time.

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Speaker 3: Science is slow. Like your colleague she was stating published

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Speaker 3: literature that was published about fifteen years ago. She was

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Speaker 3: talking about this like manner of fact, saying, hey, you've

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Speaker 3: got to look at testin permability. This is important for

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Speaker 3: disease risks. And all of this was around for ten years,

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Speaker 3: but it takes nineteen years for published literature to really

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Speaker 3: reach the mainstream kind of applicable clinical you know, where

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Speaker 3: patients are actually receiving it. So that's where kind of

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Speaker 3: a you know, once the book came out, I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, we have to get this out to socials

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Speaker 3: so that people can actually you know, changes today, because

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Speaker 3: if they wait around for their doctors to tell them,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're going to be waiting ten years. So

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Speaker 3: it's like, let's get parents out there changing their food

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Speaker 3: and understanding how their how their dietary habits now, in

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Speaker 3: their cooking habits, and everything can get influence, you know,

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Speaker 3: because kids development is really important. Like this is happening

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Speaker 3: right from day dot and it's happening right up until

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Speaker 3: the twenty Wisdom Teeth Company. At twenty that's when it

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Speaker 3: kind of finalizes, you know, at twelve or thirteen, that's

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Speaker 3: kind of like the eighty percent and then they go

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Speaker 3: through twenty percent more development. But there's so much change

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Speaker 3: that parents can make, you know, just by simple switches.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's busy, and everyone's kind of you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: challenge with kind of dealing with this stuff, but like

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Speaker 3: there are simple things that people can implement.

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Speaker 1: It's I say this all the time. Me and my

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Speaker 1: friend talk about this all the time, like we should

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Speaker 1: have done something like this when the kids were six

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Speaker 1: months old, because I feel like if you never introduced

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Speaker 1: them to certain things, then they're not going to be

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they eventually go to school, Like,

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Speaker 1: but I send my kids to school with lunch, and

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Speaker 1: they came home with stuff that I didn't even send

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Speaker 1: them with. And I'm like, where do you we trade?

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Speaker 1: They trade all their food, So I guess eventually they

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Speaker 1: would learn to eat other foods. But it now, it

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Speaker 1: it's I sit there and I just feel so bad

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Speaker 1: because I'm like, why did I ever introduce them the

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Speaker 1: fruity pebbles like that. I'm the one that bought them.

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Speaker 1: I brought them in the house and I feed it

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Speaker 1: to them. But I want to make them eggs and

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Speaker 1: breakfast every morning. But like now I feel like they're

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Speaker 1: going to be like, no, I want my fruity pebbles,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's hot holing moll with. My son's about to go

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Speaker 3: to school next year, and I'm like, it's all going

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Speaker 3: to stop once.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 3: They haven't.

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Speaker 1: They have a rule at the school that they're not

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Speaker 1: because they're afraid of like a kid has a peanut

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Speaker 1: allergy and all that, but they do it anyway, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, absolutely, And like my kids are

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Speaker 3: sneaking around and kind of like they're already onto what

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Speaker 3: they don't have. And they asked me, they asked me

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Speaker 3: that does this have sugar in it? And like stuff,

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Speaker 3: and they're always trying to The girls are especially the most.

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Speaker 3: They're sneaky, like they are like the girls are like

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Speaker 3: kind of like they will grab like some if they

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Speaker 3: see a chocolate or something, they will and they'll run

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Speaker 3: part in their room to eat and later and things

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Speaker 3: like that, and like they are very very strategic with

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Speaker 3: how they're getting there, you know there, and we've actually

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Speaker 3: got three months year old twins, a boy and girl,

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Speaker 3: So it's like it's all gonna they're going to have

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Speaker 3: like this influence that I feel is not as controlled

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Speaker 3: as what the first three had. Yes, look, it's it's

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Speaker 3: incredibly different. Difficult. Parenting is so hard and these things

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Speaker 3: it's it's obviously very easy to can't talk about these things,

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Speaker 3: but applying them to kids it's difficult. So like I

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Speaker 3: kind of just tell you know, we see parents all

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Speaker 3: the time. We talk about this kind of stuff with

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Speaker 3: kids that have a lot of issues in their out

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Speaker 3: that you know you have to do what you can

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Speaker 3: do and you know you have to make compromise and

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Speaker 3: you can't be at ease with it, like it is

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Speaker 3: what it is. You know, we live in businesscidies where

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Speaker 3: we're at. But if we're kind of switched on and

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Speaker 3: we know, for instance, if we're supplementing a kid BUTTA

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Speaker 3: and D and we know their B levels and we

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Speaker 3: know what's going on, and we know that you know,

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Speaker 3: they're getting a nutrient dens kind of food once or

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Speaker 3: twice or three times a week that we're at least

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Speaker 3: kind of making nervous steps, like you know, all those

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Speaker 3: things can contribute and we just do what we can. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's parenting is really hard.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, trust me, I've been doing it my

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Speaker 1: whole Well, you spoke with my older daughter earlier and

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Speaker 1: she's she's married and out of the house. She's twenty

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Speaker 1: nine years old. But the little ones are are you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's like a whole new world that I'm raising

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Speaker 1: them in. So of course it's it's it's the food.

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Speaker 1: It is like the minimal problem of compared to like

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Speaker 1: the other problems that are happening right now. Are you so,

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Speaker 1: are you like working on any other projects, like what's

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Speaker 1: going on with you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So we I mean our we've just opened a

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Speaker 3: new dental clinic called Helix Dentistry, but our yeah so.

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Speaker 3: My my podcast Amount Brain Connection kind of explores this.

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Speaker 3: This we we look at We get and medical specialist

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Speaker 3: from all around the world to really dive down into

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Speaker 3: these these areas that are the parents are struggling with.

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Speaker 3: Like we have a big focus of parents, but we

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Speaker 3: have a big focus on adults too, So adults sleep

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Speaker 3: happening is a big issue. So we dive into those

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Speaker 3: issues where how do we fix these things, you know,

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Speaker 3: in both kids and adults. And actually we mentioned before

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Speaker 3: that you said adults are easier. Well, actually kids are

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Speaker 3: a lot easier when you kind of because they're so

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Speaker 3: malleable and they change so easy. When you've got this

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Speaker 3: problem and you kind of go back through the story,

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Speaker 3: you realize that all these things happen when you're kind.

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Speaker 1: Of yeah, of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And actually the interesting thing will be for your

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Speaker 3: daughter when she eventually has kids going through this journey

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Speaker 3: with her, you know, because obviously there's there's that kind

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Speaker 3: of what you've learned as a parent going through and

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Speaker 3: then what we see, yeah it's grandparent is kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: a whole other things too. So yeah, my website's doctor

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Speaker 3: steam live dot com. We have a lot of resources

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Speaker 3: and everything up there, and just trying to get the

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Speaker 3: word out through socials as well, you know, based the

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Speaker 3: simple tips for parents to to really improve these for

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Speaker 3: their kids.

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Speaker 1: Last today, Yeah, your Instagram's awesome. I love it. Just

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Speaker 1: the videos are like short, sweet, to the point, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, okay, that makes it all makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just a matter of putting it into place.

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Speaker 1: But thank you so much for being here today. It

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Speaker 1: was awesome. And everybody should get your book. I see

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Speaker 1: it's on audio too, so they're my favorites is Audible

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: Books because and I could clean my house and do

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: that and listen. So and your Instagram too, they should

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01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: definitely check out. And what's the deal with your You

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Speaker 1: have a podcast too, right, is that something you're actively doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've got a weekly podcast coming up and

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Speaker 3: that's The Mouth Brain Connection that's on iTunes and Spotify,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, it's kind of these kind of conversations with

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Speaker 3: doctors and you're just exploring, you know, problems that people

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Speaker 3: are experiencing out of the Wilbo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really awesome. Well, congratulations, you're doing awesome and

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Speaker 1: it seems like everything every it's being well received, which

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Speaker 1: is great because, like I said, people were blowing this

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Speaker 1: off years ago and now they're listening and I love that.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for being here with us today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me. Yeah, I hope it

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Speaker 3: helps them. Yeah, really interested in diving into all the

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Speaker 3: other episodes of your work too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks so much. Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death as a reminder my training is as

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Speaker 1: a pathologist's assistant. I have a master's level education and

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Speaker 1: specialize in anatomy and pathology education. I am not a

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Speaker 1: doctor and I have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead

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Speaker 1: or alive without the assistance of a licensed medical doctor.

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Speaker 1: This show, my website, and social media accounts are designed

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,839
Speaker 1: to educate and inform people based on my experience working

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Speaker 1: in pathology, so they can make healthier decisions regarding their

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Speaker 1: life and well being. Always remember that science is changing

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Speaker 1: every day and the opinions expressed in this episode are

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Speaker 1: based on my knowledge of those subjects at the time

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Speaker 1: Death on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere you get podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Thanks