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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hans is coming to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler in pink,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Chris Westling. What's up boys, Wesley Wednesdays,

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Speaker 1: what's going on you? Hey? Dan? They sent they sent

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Speaker 1: me home from chemo yesterday, so no treatment this week,

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Speaker 1: which means my voice is fine and dandy. Did they

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Speaker 1: NFC week and they were just like, the people need it,

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna have We're just gonna have a chemo.

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Speaker 1: Take one, take one for the team. Yeah, streets are

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Speaker 1: talking in the medical industry and the word got out,

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Speaker 1: so they realized how important this was. Alright, So West

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Speaker 1: so awesome to have you here. The show is never

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Speaker 1: the same without you, especially when it's around the a

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Speaker 1: of an NFC week and we have even more reinforcements.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a good one. When you hear

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Speaker 1: he is the voice of God for the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. Uh, he is our own Bob Shepherd and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna join us today. He is the man the

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Speaker 1: myth the Legend. He calls play by to play for

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Speaker 1: the charters. He works for NFL Network. He is appear

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Speaker 1: on the Throwback podcast and Yes, don't forget about Petros

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Speaker 1: and Money Mark Sessler's favorite drive time radio show in

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Speaker 1: Southern California that I mentioned. He was on the Throwback Podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt money Smith. Nah, what an intro in the music?

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Speaker 1: That's sweet lick. Trying to figure out what I'm doing

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Speaker 1: dusty night? And I uh kind of like cruising in

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Speaker 1: just won. We just won, like the and I'm just

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Speaker 1: looking at him like, yeah, man, we did it. You

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Speaker 1: and me, John just did it. Johnny Lawrence, age forty

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Speaker 1: it all right wrong there's a dead body somewhere. There's

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Speaker 1: a dead body somewhere. But I felt that way too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, it's a cigarette and I'm

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Speaker 1: just kind of looking at my left hand, at the machine.

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Speaker 1: I just used to take a human life in disbelief,

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Speaker 1: like what what's going on here? I mean, what happened

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Speaker 1: in my life? The problem that we faced a little

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Speaker 1: bit is for the listener, I don't know why you'd

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Speaker 1: want to hear what Mark and Greg have to say

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Speaker 1: after like the unannounced son of Tom Brokaw offers a

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Speaker 1: point with total authorities, So I you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a bit concerning for us. But I will tell you

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Speaker 1: real quick, I'm not only a fan of Petros and Money.

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Speaker 1: I I drive my son home during the afternoons. And

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Speaker 1: you've got a second generation Sessler who um he as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, he doesn't he he was beguiled. Why you know,

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Speaker 1: he said, mommy and daddy, why would or why would

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Speaker 1: really concerned him as a child. But we got through that,

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Speaker 1: and he's a fan. I think he doesn't quite get

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Speaker 1: the Petro's angle of it. But we're working on that

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Speaker 1: we'll be back at it today. So oh yeah, don't

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Speaker 1: don't worry. I know how this race goes. It's Petro

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Speaker 1: of the show, It's funny, of all the names to choose,

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Speaker 1: says that you chose Tom Brokaw because back in my

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Speaker 1: few impressions that I did when he was still an anchor.

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Speaker 1: They would check in with Tom Brokaw to get an

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Speaker 1: update on the news of the day. And I'll give

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Speaker 1: you my trick, you know, when you do impressions, Not

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Speaker 1: that I'm good at it, but there is a certain

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Speaker 1: Tom Broke all I've read multiple old magazine articles where

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Speaker 1: a week away from football and on Monday's edition of

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Speaker 1: the podcast with the Great Chris Westling until we hit

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Speaker 1: the around the a f C and forty eight minutes

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Speaker 1: eight minutes. But before we do that, a couple of

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Speaker 1: things Money, I would love to touch with you on

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Speaker 1: because um, you are like we said in the in

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Speaker 1: let's start with the Derwin James injury. Uh, he is

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like one of those. It's a clean up

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Speaker 1: it's a long recovery that he just got put on

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Speaker 1: probably three players to do what Derwin is capable of doing,

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Speaker 1: just not possible to to to not love watching Derwin

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Speaker 1: that that's not the style that Casey plays. He's more

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Speaker 1: Knocks ever last night on HBO. Of course it's Hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks Los Angeles covering the Chargers and the Rams, and

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks debut money. But it was in a very

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, says I can't do that. I just I can't.

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Speaker 1: I gotta see it. He challenged challenge Eagles a year ago,

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Speaker 1: so that didn't go too well. Wes Lugi, the g Man,

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Speaker 1: this offense is a little intriguing, and I saw one

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Speaker 1: of their coaches predicted a thousand yards season for Evan

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Speaker 1: Ingram at tight end. They're talking about a more explosive

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Speaker 1: and involved role for se Kwon Barkley in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: So this question is for Greg would you desert friends?

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Speaker 1: How would they feel about a proposition in which se

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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley and Evan Ingram each lead their position group

435
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Speaker 1: in the NFL in scrimmage yards this year? Well, I

436
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Speaker 1: don't know. I would like to see the odds on that.

437
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty tall order. That would be a fun

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Speaker 1: thing to throw out for our Sandwich props, show a

439
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: little plug. They're coming up next week. Evan Ingram is

440
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Speaker 1: the one that look I get excited about him every year.

441
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: I love watching him play and it just never happened.

442
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: So he's always great in August. It's like staying staying

443
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Speaker 1: through sixteen games and staying on the field is his

444
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Speaker 1: big challenge. It's hard. Is he the Cowboys of fantasy

445
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Speaker 1: tight ends? A little bit he got is Jason Garrett

446
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: the guy to bring out huge yardage from an offense

447
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: that was throwing the ball forty times a game last

448
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Speaker 1: year and racking up yards. I don't know, like this

449
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: offense could be more efficient, but like I I'd be

450
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Speaker 1: a little worried about, Like Danny Dimes is a fantasy guy.

451
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Speaker 1: When he's coming off a season where we threw at

452
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Speaker 1: forty two times a game, it's just not gonna happen again.

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Speaker 1: I really liked Neil Jones. Um I think this. I

454
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be an asset for New York. I

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure though that going from Pat Shermer to

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was the most inspired. Like when you go

457
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Speaker 1: from like one relationship to the next, you kind of

458
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Speaker 1: like change it up a little bit and you know

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Speaker 1: a little spice in there. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's what's occurred here. I look at it from you know, what,

461
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Speaker 1: what did he want to do in Dallas? And and

462
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: is the talent of Barkley on par with Zeke Elliott?

463
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Speaker 1: Obviously the offensive line is, and but I'd probably feel

464
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Speaker 1: a lot better about a Giant's team that's not throwing

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Speaker 1: at forty two times and given the ball to Barkley

466
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Speaker 1: a whole lot more. Um you know there there's again

467
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Speaker 1: the offensive line, especially with the the opt out is

468
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Speaker 1: is a big question mark. But um, I just I

469
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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe I'm not as into Danny Dimes as

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Speaker 1: you are, says, I know there was some some good there,

471
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Speaker 1: but there was also some bad. I mean that you

472
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Speaker 1: have got to be able to take care of the football,

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Speaker 1: and we have seen that be an issue for quarterbacks,

474
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Speaker 1: and it's hard for them to shake because when a

475
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Speaker 1: play breaks down, that's when muscle memory and and those

476
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Speaker 1: bad habits start to emerge again. And I think that's

477
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Speaker 1: you know, just watching a dude getting all Lucy goose

478
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Speaker 1: with the football is he's running around is very hard

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Speaker 1: to shakes. Like the hope that he improves, like the

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Speaker 1: fumbles and stuff that that's the kind of thing that

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Speaker 1: you'd see a quarterback, you know, improve over a year

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Speaker 1: two they say. They say that quarterback fumbling is one

483
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Speaker 1: of the quote unquote easier things to fix if you

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Speaker 1: have the right coaching and you got to just hope

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Speaker 1: that's that's done. But you know what Domes showed something

486
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Speaker 1: Barkley Ingram, Slayton, Sterling Shepherd, there's some pieces here. It

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Speaker 1: looks like a team that's already been ravaged by injuries

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Speaker 1: before any injuries hit. That's what their defensive You're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to do that. I thought the thing went off. Rosie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: dark gun, shoot me with a dark gun, and that's

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Speaker 1: the punishment, all right, Washington Football team, Matt money Smith, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. I have written a prepared statement, uh

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Speaker 1: for you to digest. This could be the team with

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Speaker 1: the greatest gap between how good they are on one

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Speaker 1: side of the ball and how bad they are on

496
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Speaker 1: the other. If healthy, the defensive line nasty and with

497
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Speaker 1: offensive line question marks we just mentioned the Giants and

498
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Speaker 1: perhaps in Philly with injuries, those two divisional opponents could

499
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Speaker 1: have serious issues dealing with the front that was already

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Speaker 1: a force before the addition of Chase Young, who, as

501
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Speaker 1: we know from our colleagues Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks,

502
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: was celebrated as a one of one, a true difference

503
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Speaker 1: maker and the best player in the draft. Um. Now,

504
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: on the other side, it's one of the worst offensive

505
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Speaker 1: lines in the league. A total of one pass catcher

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Speaker 1: that you have any faith and not receiver pass catcher,

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Speaker 1: and we don't necessarily I think feel good about a

508
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Speaker 1: quarterback that that has a lot of questions surrounded him

509
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Speaker 1: as well. No quarterback has been put in the worst

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Speaker 1: position you know it. We you mentioned it on our

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Speaker 1: show the other day. Donald Like, who's been in the

512
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Speaker 1: worst position, Dwayne Haskins now not like he helped himself

513
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Speaker 1: with his early play last year. His number three receiver

514
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Speaker 1: is a guy who dontrelle Inman, who has been caught

515
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Speaker 1: by about seven teams. His left tackle is probably the

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Speaker 1: guy they just traded for from the Raiders who couldn't

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Speaker 1: make the Raiders. He could not make the Raiders, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the left tackle. His running back is

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Speaker 1: you know whoever it's gonna be back there. It's just

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Speaker 1: like it's tight end is Logan Thomas. It's just a

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Speaker 1: rough It's just a rough group around Dayne Haskins. It

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Speaker 1: might be a good year for them not to have

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Speaker 1: fans in the stadium because they were struggling with that

524
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Speaker 1: to begin with. But I mean, Ron Rivera feels like

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Speaker 1: the cut coach would like to win games like twelve

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Speaker 1: to nine. Uh, but that's not how the NFL works

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Speaker 1: right now, I agree with you. The defense, the names

528
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: are starting to stack up. Um, it's juicy, but I

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Speaker 1: mean it's a it's a desert on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. And then what happens if they go

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Speaker 1: to and fourteen and you've got to figure out you

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Speaker 1: draft one of these other quarterbacks next May. One of

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00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: the easiest tells in the league if you're looking for

534
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: the most destitute impoverished skill position group, just figure out

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00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: which team dontrell him and lands on and the immediately

536
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Speaker 1: becomes the starter as soon as he's get picked up

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00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire or signed off the couch. No

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00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: offense to don troll, but you know, no none. It

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00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: speaks to him that he's allowed to just slip right

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Speaker 1: in as a starter. I don't think there's maybe, well

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00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen would be the most recent example, but there

542
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: aren't many where a guy enters year two and he's

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00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: already it seems like done. He's in trouble because unless

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Speaker 1: he has a big season where he shows off ability

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00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: and he has not in a great spot rosterwise. On

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00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: the offense, it just feels like this is an organization

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00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: ready to hit a reboot at quarterback because they're rebooting

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00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: everything else, and he feels like the last of a

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00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: prior regime that they're trying to wash away. It just

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Greg, as bad as Darnald the

551
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: situation he's been in, Haskins is just it's set up

552
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: for him to fail, not to mention the the organization

553
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: around him. There's that too. How do I do it?

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00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Is a great start. You can't leave now? Three more

555
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: not I just wanted to see, like, was that okay?

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00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: You know, Lucy Goosey just kind of like sitting back

557
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: in the chair style. Sessler is right on top of

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00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: the mic and like really intense. So I was just

559
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: trying to figure out you could read the ingredients of

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00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: like a vegetable soup can and I would give you

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Speaker 1: a high grade. So I, okay, all right, let's head

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00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: to the NFC North money. Keep us rolling with the packers. Okay,

563
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: here's my packers paragraph if you please. You don't need that,

564
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: By the way, we could exercise that set up. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of like doing it. It's like when

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Speaker 1: Mark starts starts this thing by saying, Okay, I'm gonna

567
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: go really fast now. Well, on the way to do

568
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: it would be to just get right to remember for

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Speaker 1: you know, we started the show about three minutes and

570
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: I had already written a lot of long stuff, so

571
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: it started winning a panic mode. You know, we started

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00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: making money. We remember they were thirteen and three last year. Right,

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Speaker 1: We remember they beat the Seahawks in the playoffs before

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Speaker 1: getting destroyed by the forty niners. Right, they swept the

575
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: division last year? So what has changed? Why is everyone

576
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: down on the Packers. They have one of the best

577
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Speaker 1: nose tackles in the league, surrounded by a vicious pass

578
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: rush in the Smiths. Their secondary got better, four fifths

579
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Speaker 1: of their offensive line is back. Last time I checked,

580
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams is one of the five best wide receivers

581
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Speaker 1: in the league, and freaking Aaron Rodgers is their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So why do we keep having a debate over who's

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Speaker 1: going to win the NFC North. I just don't get it.

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00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: I'll have that money because it does feel personal, doesn't it.

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00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: It feels like people are are annoyed that the Packers

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00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: weren't a true thirteen and three. Everyone says that was

587
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: a soft thirteen in three. People didn't like the way

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00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers played, and now they didn't like the way

589
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: the path they took in the draft not bringing in

590
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: more receiver help. So now the thought is, screw screw

591
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: the Packers. They're really an eight and eight team. Which

592
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: but there's no real evidence back of why that should have.

593
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: But I think the heart of it is that, like

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Speaker 1: you said, it's not a true thirteen and three, that

595
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: they were lucky to get that record. That's the heart

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Speaker 1: of it. And then secondly, I don't know if you

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00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: can look around in the NFL and find another team

598
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: that should expect less out of its first and second

599
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Speaker 1: round draft picks as rookies, like like my thing is West,

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Speaker 1: do they need those first and second round rookies. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I look at this because look at look at what

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00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: we've dealt with for the past few year. But every

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Speaker 1: year we keep acting like this Packers offense is going

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Speaker 1: to heal itself and become what it was and who

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00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: steps up ever outside of Davante Adam here here's why.

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00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Because Rogers hasn't been great for a few years. He's

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00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: been great in spots um you know, the the analytics,

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Speaker 1: the complete sin percentage over expected and QBR and all

609
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: that stuff, hasn't very average or below average for years.

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Speaker 1: I think the answer money is that because their offense

611
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: isn't that consistently good and their defense isn't that consistently good,

612
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: so it's hard to hold onto, where's the top ten

613
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: group out of those two units? They really weren't there

614
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: last year. They want a lot of games, and there

615
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: is a lot of there's enough talent. But I look

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Speaker 1: at the Vikings. I think the Vikings are more balanced.

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: I like them to win it. I mean Soft thirteen

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00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: and three means I think they were probably a ten

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00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: and six team in disguise, which is not a bad

620
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: team at all, and they're a playoff contender again. I mean,

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00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: the Athletic pointed out that Rogers has had an absolutely

622
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: great camp pinpoint accuracy. I mean, maybe not as good

623
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: as this boiled fellow that Greg is obsessing over. But

624
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, now we're getting into the real stuff.

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00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: I just don't if there are any injuries in any

626
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: of their skill position groups, they're in serious hot water.

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00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have done more with a late

628
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: period Aaron Rodgers, you know, to help manager. So far,

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Speaker 1: I've heard lucky thirteen and three from West Soft thirteen

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00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: and three from your sessler. I was setting up what

631
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: other people are saying. I would love like tell Bill

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00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Parcels or Bill Belichick, like thirteen and three is thirteen

633
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: and three. This is it's fine, you do not agree.

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00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: That reminds you of other teen in three teams that

635
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: you've seen over the years, not me. I mean, they

636
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: won a playoff game. You win third, you go thirteen

637
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: and three and you get and you get smoked in

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00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: the divisional round, and okay, I'll buy into that, But

639
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: they won a playoff game. Like to me, that's that's

640
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: what separates thirteen and three from Oh it was a mirage.

641
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh I got darted, Yeah, right in the karated artery. Great, jot, Ricky,

642
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: you didn't need to practice, all right, the Minnesota Vikings. Alright,

643
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: So the acquisition of Yannick and go Way, it was

644
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: a beauty. I mean it was a beauty by Rick Spieldman.

645
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: It plugged a legit area of need in the front

646
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: seven and they take a step back and you look

647
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: at this team it profiles is the most complete group

648
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: to me in the NFC North. I don't know if

649
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: the Vikings finally get to the super Bowl, but I

650
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: don't know if there's another team in the conference uh

651
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: that I'm more confident is going to be in the playoffs.

652
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: I just think this bike team has a very high

653
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: floor the way it's set up and I don't know

654
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: if it's high enough to get them where they need

655
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: to be, uh and back to the super Bowl. But

656
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: this feels like a locked and loaded ten win and

657
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: plus ten win enough team. Your thoughts mhm, high flower,

658
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: low ceiling. That's Kirk Cousins in a nutshell that I agree.

659
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: I think they're one of the more interesting teams that's

660
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: been ignored, and they're interesting to me because they threaded

661
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: the needle between rebuilding and reloading, and I think they reloaded.

662
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I think the young guys they brought in, and then

663
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned in gok way they're gonna be just fine,

664
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: and the same questions the last couple of years are

665
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna be the primary questions again, the offensive line and

666
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: can the quarterback make plays off a schedule when he's

667
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: forced to improvise. I like the fact that you know

668
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: you're not Yeah, you lost Kevin Stefanski, but it's basically

669
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: just Gary Kubiak, who I think was pulling the strings

670
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: there a year ago anyway, So there's consistency. UM, very

671
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: strong tight end group. I liked situation there with Irv

672
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Smith growing. I don't I mean, if Adam theland goes down,

673
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: you're hoping that a rookie Justin Jefferson and B. C.

674
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: Johnson um can suddenly morph into what they had a

675
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: year ago. That would concern me. But this, to me

676
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: is a typical good but not great team playoff team. Yes, great,

677
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: that would be the big the big question mark. I'll

678
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: I'll curious what you think money Stefan Diggs. How big

679
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: a loss is that for him? Do you think they're

680
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna be chugging along and find or we're gonna be

681
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: talking in October that he has really missed on that offense.

682
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I love college football, and I loved

683
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: to watch an L s U last year and there

684
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: was so much talent. It's really hard to figure out

685
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: how it's, you know, going to translate to the next level.

686
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: But man, Justin Jefferson is a hell of a receiver

687
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: and and based on what Adam feeling is, I'm almost

688
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: tempted to make a case that he might be better

689
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins than Stefon Diggs. As crazy as that sounds,

690
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: he is, he is so freaking reportedly kind of had

691
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 1: a bad camp relatively, that's okay, getting into the mix

692
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson for what It's my issue is what we

693
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: started with, and that's Kirk Cousins. You know what I

694
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: mean when you talk about you know, any time that

695
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: like Kurt gets into a big game, you know he's

696
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: he's still looking to get that win when it counts most.

697
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: You know he's still and it's just I just can't

698
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: get behind it. I'm say, when the playoffs in the

699
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Superdome doesn't County got it? No, it doesn't, it doesn't

700
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: to me. That does not count to me. To me,

701
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: that was more of the Saints just completely screwing themselves

702
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: than Kirk Cousins put together the best team in the league.

703
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I want to see what Zimmer does with the young cornerback.

704
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: That's how he made his name. They have the best

705
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: safety combination league. That defense could actually be better this year. Sessler,

706
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bear, this team, I think we know. This

707
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: team annoys me a little bit. I think the twelve

708
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: and fourth season two years ago hurt them because you

709
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: lost the best best coach in your staff of Vic Fangio. Okay,

710
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: created a false evaluation of the inside the building. It

711
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: turned Matt Nigy from a hot you know, a high

712
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: rise like young offensive mind into a guy who was

713
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: treating like the search to the ticket, like looking for

714
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: the ark of the Covenant, and they've just given Jimmy

715
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: Graham's sixteen million over two years. They don't pick up

716
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: Trabisky's option. They make him a lame duck. You bringing

717
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Nick Foles who has never started more than eleven games

718
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: in the season. I really just see this as a

719
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: snooze fest with a lot of changes coming down the

720
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: road potentially. Am I being too harsh on the Chicago Bears? No,

721
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: I like when you challenged us last time, you almost

722
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: bullied us going into the conversation last that it was

723
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: the same delivery. Just just kind of get a little up,

724
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: up and up. Note at the end, Am I being

725
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: too hard Bears? Well, I really only care about my opinions,

726
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: so you know, I throw a question out at the end,

727
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: But that's just money at this point. Yeah. The argument

728
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: for them is that last year was the floor and

729
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: they're kind of like the Rams that no one remembers

730
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: that that they won a bunch of games, like this

731
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: was still a five team that could have been a

732
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: little better at in the stretch that they want a

733
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: couple of close games like I was surprised they were

734
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: able to win eight games that the defense was still

735
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: that good. That said, I think it can get worse,

736
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Like there's no rule that um that defense. Yes, you

737
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: get a Keen Hicks back, but you lose Goldman. The

738
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: cornerbacks especially looked very vulnerable. I don't think they're the

739
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: same defense by any means that they were a couple

740
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: of years ago. Yeah, I had some issues with their offseason.

741
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I think the two moves that maybe miffed me the

742
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: most were signing Jimmy Graham to big money after he

743
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: failed to make a play for two straight years. Um,

744
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: and then just decide and the Fools was good enough

745
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Cam Newton sat out there all offseason and

746
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: and Fools was the guy you wanted. I just thought

747
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: you could have aimed higher, you know. I I'll say,

748
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: they see you know they they signed Ted Gain Um

749
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: when when the Chargers played them last year and I

750
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: was looking out on that field and I don't know

751
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: if Allen Robinson was dinged up or what it was,

752
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: but there's a bunch of guys that were like five

753
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: ft five that your biscuity had to throw too. And

754
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what is Ryan pace built here and

755
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's trying to compensate for that

756
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: lack of size by signing nine hundred and drafting tight ends.

757
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: But it's just an odd mix. You look at the

758
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: running back depth chart. Everyone got excited about Montgomery and

759
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, Tarik Cohn is a nice piece, but he's

760
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of be complimented. I don't know if that's there.

761
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you you like, but you don't

762
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: love anything on this team. It's like, yeah, I like

763
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line. It's pretty good offensive. I like that,

764
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, as you said, defensive line. But and obviously

765
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: you know you get Hicks back you mentioned. I'm looking

766
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: at their secondary. I've never been a big Kyle Fuller guy. Um,

767
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: they lose their best player to Green Bay in the

768
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: in the off season, so yeah, I'm with you, Rosie.

769
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: I think they can't get worse. Clill macass have a

770
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: big year, better than last year. Hits will help alleviate

771
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: some of those double and triple teams. MC needs to

772
00:38:51,840 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: be special, wasn't last year. I don't the host get

773
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: Losy here Man close it out. NFC north West, the

774
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, who I need to check myself here, Um,

775
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: I've been doing the lines wrong. They closed out the

776
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: last couple of months last year with a quarterback who

777
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: didn't have an NFL arm, with a running back who

778
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: didn't have the NFL ability to make anyone miss, with

779
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers who don't belong on NFL rosters getting important

780
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: snaps for them. Injuries hit them hard. But if you

781
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: look at where they were at mid season three four

782
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: and one, with Matthew Stafford playing the best ball of

783
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: his career. UM, I was high on them at that time,

784
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, this is not a team that

785
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: you want to play, This is not a team you

786
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: want to run into in an important game. And then

787
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: injuries hit them hard to me, I guess my question is,

788
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: when I look at this offense, I see one that

789
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: can sneak up on a lot of people and be

790
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: a top ten offense in the NFL. Do you guys

791
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: see the same thing? I truly like, I am believing

792
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: in this Lions thing just because you want to believe

793
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: in a little bit of magic once in a while,

794
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: and things looking a little different than they have in

795
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Detroit for a million years. If DeAndre Swift gets healthy

796
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: and you've got him and carry on Johnson. I think

797
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: though this old school team that's gonna run the ball

798
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: a billion times, even though you've got Stafford, They've got

799
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: a good offensive line, they're good against the run. I

800
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: just liked the set up in a weird year for

801
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: them to be a little bit better than people expect.

802
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: And my big question would be, you know, there's a

803
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: lot of talk. I've had people text me when I've

804
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: tout of the line saying you don't get it. Matt

805
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Patricia has no no stock in this locker room. I

806
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: think that might have changed a little bit in the

807
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: last couple of months with what's going on in our

808
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: country and how he's responded to that. But that's a

809
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: little bit of an X factor. You know what I

810
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: think changed everything when Patra on our podcast called you

811
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: out Mark for regularly denigrating his favorite team, and then

812
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: really from that moment you became a line supporter. I

813
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: think it shows that you're a good guy and a

814
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: friend to Patra. But there is connective issue. There's no doubt.

815
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: I think that shows that you think I just sway

816
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: in the wind at depending on what any one says,

817
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: and that's just not the case. West. I'm gonna go

818
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: back to what you said about that record, and I

819
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: was in the middle of that because the Chargers lost

820
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: a game to the Lions they had no business losing. Uh.

821
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: They had three just absolutely brutal plays that that would

822
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: have put them up two plus scores. Uh, a fumble

823
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: by Austin Ekeler at the goal line when it was

824
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: first in goal. And they had two touchdowns taken off

825
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: the board, one for offensive past interference which was just insane,

826
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: and another for an illegal block UM that would have

827
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: again put them up two scores. They weren't really able

828
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: to move the ball against the Chargers at all. That

829
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: there was a thirteen to ten game. Uh. There one

830
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: score game off of a turnover, remember the game before that,

831
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: and I just remember watching it that their defense just

832
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: allowed Kyler Murray to light them up in the in

833
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. UM. And and I think there are

834
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: other wins were were against pretty unimpressed Ave tennic. One

835
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: of their wins came against the Giants, so it's not like, yeah,

836
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: they were three four and one, but it wasn't really

837
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: that impressive. They almost beat the Chiefs. Their offense was

838
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: the top five in d v O a while Stafford

839
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: was healthy. They were going deep, they were making plays.

840
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: They'll be fun. The question to me is can Patricia

841
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: coach defense? We know he can't fit his scheme around

842
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: other players because they've been absolutely terrible with other players.

843
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: Now he's got all of the guys he wants. Can

844
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: he be average? Well? Doing is like he comes at

845
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: me with the d v O A thing and I

846
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it because the so I just

847
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: gotta move, I just gotta were analysis. I mean, they

848
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: put up thirty four on the Chiefs that they put

849
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 1: on the chart one game, Ricky put down the gun

850
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: for Christ's sake. Alright, let's pause here briefly. Two things,

851
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: two notes. One on the Lions that they signed their

852
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: left tackle, Taylor Decker was six or eighty five million

853
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: dollar extension through six that's um, that's some of the

854
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: biggest money in the league for a left tackle. So

855
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: they do big business. And in the other realm of

856
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: big business. But before we get into the NFC South

857
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: and start with the defending champion, well, actually they didn't

858
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: win the division, but the Saints. Uh let the Saints, No,

859
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: they did win their division. It's an idiot. They were

860
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: the three seed though. Anyway, moving forward, got this under control.

861
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Shoot me with the dart. I'll wake up tomorrow. It

862
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: will be better. Alvin Kamara Um and the Saints popped

863
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: up yesterday. ESPN reported that the Saints are open to

864
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: trading Alvin Kamara, their superstar running back, if they couldn't

865
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: work out an extension. Things seemed to calm down a

866
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: little bit today. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reported that they are

867
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: quote not far apart in contract negotiations. Greg is just

868
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those much ado about nothing stories

869
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: Camars going nowhere, and before you know it, he's gonna

870
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: get like Joe Mixon or better money. I think. So

871
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: the big that you know do here might be a

872
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: rap sheet coming after you beginning, like I reported that

873
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: same thing fell dude, look through you know, twelve hours

874
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: before this was like a source war here. You could

875
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: see Camera's agent talking to five different reporters saying, hey,

876
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: we've got it all settled down, and you can tell

877
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: it with Sean Payton throwing out a little public uh

878
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: fire that hey, like we're willing to trade. You don't

879
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: get too cocky, Kimera, and no one's gonna take this trade.

880
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: They were like demanding the first round pick. It was

881
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: all just public negotiations and it sounded like they're gonna

882
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: be somewhere between Joe Mixon and Christian McCaffrey and everyone

883
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: gets happy. And I have no idea how the Saints

884
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: are gonna exist in They're like eighty million dollars over

885
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: the salary cap. That's not an exaggeration. That's literally how

886
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: far they are over the salary cap before you've been

887
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: putting this. But it's really good. It's really getting aggressive.

888
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 1: Doesn't not just like put a microscope or I guess

889
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: magnify the fact that this is really just a last

890
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: shot for the Saints. We can get into it in

891
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: our and it's said. But and speaking at Joe Mixon,

892
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: since I brought up his name, the Bengals signed, they're

893
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: running back to a four year, forty eight million dollar

894
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: extension through and then his migraines disappeared and he was

895
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: back on the practice field. So look at west ended

896
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: up big contracts to running backs. Things are changing in Cincinnati.

897
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: Come back to the west Side, buddy, they're waiting for you.

898
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: He's the running back on the oblivion all pros nobody

899
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: watches at Bengals. They don't realize how good he is.

900
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: But he's one of the best players in the league

901
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: at his position. Bang. All right, let's get into the

902
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: NFC South, starting with the Nolan Saints. Greg, you went

903
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: to two lanes, so why don't you take this? I

904
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: will I will try. I think the Saints secondary, I'm

905
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna start with. Their defense is one of the most

906
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: talented groups in the league and you just think of, like,

907
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: what a change that is. This used to be such

908
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: a joke. Their defense in general, especially their secondary. G

909
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: Norris Jenkins to me as a guy, you know how

910
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna play once you read the camp report, tither

911
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: he's checked out on the season and a problem or

912
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: he plays like at an all pro level. Him being

913
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: the number two cornerback behind Lattimore just makes them so deep.

914
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: I know West loves Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who is just

915
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: like an unbelievable young player. They have Malcolm Jenkins now

916
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: at safety, I like Marcus Williams. Like they're deep at

917
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: all their positions in the secondary, and they have got

918
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: a great defensive line to like to me, the defense

919
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: is going to keep this team from even a ten

920
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 1: and six type floor. We know the offense is gonna

921
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: be fine, but I think they have a chance to

922
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: win thirteen fourteen games and hold off whatever challenge they

923
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: get from the Bucks. Yeah. To me, the question is

924
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: the same one it's been the last year to what

925
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: what can the quarterback do in the playoffs? What kind

926
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: of quarterback too against good defenses when he's got a

927
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: thirty yard arm. To me, that remains the number one question. Well,

928
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: you're just bringing Jamis Winston, you know, and then he

929
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: gives the game away more little guy named Hill? Please?

930
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: What about what about Evan Silva calling Taysom Hill a

931
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: gadget troll? Un established the run this week? Anybody have

932
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: thoughts that it was a red zone troll as and

933
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna steal Tell that that's actually a compliment, that's

934
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: not really the tractor. He's saying. You're kind of banged

935
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: if you maybe have Alvin Kamar or someone else in fantasy,

936
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: because Taysom Hill is gonna constinue, He's gonna spin spells

937
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: and you know, devastate the enemy week after week. Tillifying

938
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: that grol To talk about Breeze's arm and you're right, West,

939
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: It's like their offense was awesome when Breeze was in

940
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: there last year until about the game that how about

941
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: the game that decided whether they kept the season going

942
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: or not. What happened to his arm in that game? Like,

943
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: I get it, and he played poorly and the play

944
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's just hard for me to be as

945
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: worried when they're putting up so many points, when they're

946
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: so efficient, when they were like an unbelievable offense and

947
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: he was, you know, one of the top tacks in

948
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: the league. We just talked about Alvin Kamara. He told

949
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: the media a couple of weeks ago that he had

950
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: a torn knee, and West, you were talking about it

951
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: all last season going into January that he couldn't make

952
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: people miss If Albu Kamara is Alvin Kamara again, that's

953
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: a super duper star that you slot into an offense

954
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: that was already very good with a compromised version of

955
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: him last year. I'm not really worried about the Saints

956
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: on offense, even with Breeze advance. Oh, I'm not worried

957
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: about Camara at Oh. I'm worried about the quarterback with

958
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: a thirty yard arm we can disagree on that. That's fine.

959
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: That's fine. That's part of this podcast. Money. I'm not

960
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: weighing in because whatever I say, freaking Rosie's gonna get

961
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: the last ten seconds. And I learned from my estate

962
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you can take your d b O and you can

963
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: shove it up your tail. All right, See what I mean?

964
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: There's the good the show. See now it needs a

965
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: comment down. See now everything's calmed down. You know, fool

966
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: me once, shame on you, fool me, full me twice.

967
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: You won't get fooled again. What's going on here? Somebody

968
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: famous said? Then West the Atlantic alf cut down. Out

969
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: of all the little training camp nuggets that we see

970
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I think the most important one that I've

971
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: seen is from William McFadden of The Falcon's website, who

972
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: said the clear takeaway from their Friday night scrimmage was

973
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: how good Todd Gurley looked, how fast and agile the

974
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: acceleration on outside runs and cutting up field. And then

975
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, the head coach, saying, you saw speed out

976
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: of Todd Gurley, that he he beat the leverage to

977
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: the corner. To me, this is exactly what you want

978
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: to hear. If you're a Falcons fan that a guy

979
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: who's still only twenty six years old, and he's now

980
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: almost two calendar years removed from the knee injury that

981
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: put a hiatus on his career, UM, that there is

982
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: a chance that he gets back to being some semblance

983
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: of what he was UM when he was Offensive Player

984
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: of the Year. UM. So I guess my question you

985
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: guys is what kind of chance are you giving Todd

986
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: Gurley to be a comeback Player of the Year type

987
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: of guy? Zero M hmmm. You know I love that that.

988
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: You know that I love I look. I hope he

989
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: looks like he did. He was one of the most

990
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: fun players to watch. UM. But when you hear about

991
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: an arthritic condition and a knee for a guy who's

992
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: twenty six years old and his knee is more you know,

993
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: resembles my knees, and you know what that's like. If

994
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: you've been beating on him for a while, it's fine,

995
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, in August, but when it's the middle of

996
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: October and it ain't the same, that's you know, Unfortunately,

997
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: I think what we're probably looking at it's I'm not

998
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: concerned about how fast he looks. The leverage that he's

999
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: getting the cuts that he's making. Uh, going into week one,

1000
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about what it's gonna look like coming

1001
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: out of week six. Yeah, I guess that's what it is, right.

1002
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: It's whys you you put it as these two years

1003
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: removed from the injury. Is he ever going to actually

1004
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: be really kind of removed from it or is this

1005
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: just who he is now? I I I'm with you, though.

1006
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: It's like a guy to get behind as offensive player

1007
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: of the year, Well, that's those days are gone. He

1008
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: did that once, could be a comeback player of the

1009
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: year because he was such a fun and exciting athlete

1010
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: in the city. If his career was done by twenty eight,

1011
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: it would be just a total shame. They just feel

1012
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: a little fragile to me in the sense that if

1013
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: the girly thing doesn't work out, and you know, Brian

1014
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Hill has got a lot of buzz from dan Quinn

1015
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: to in camp, but still is that someone you want,

1016
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: you know as your as your situation at running back?

1017
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: If if a wide receiver goes down, someone like Russell

1018
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: Gage gets moved up. I mean, Hayden Hurst, Matt Ryan

1019
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: gushed over him all offseason, but we haven't really seen

1020
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst do it um entirely on his own as

1021
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: a as a tight end one. It kind of reminds me,

1022
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, in the Matt money Smith Realm, the who

1023
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: are you? The who? Song? Like what is this team?

1024
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: They go oh in seven or oh in six? Then

1025
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: they win seven in a row. Like they're just sort

1026
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: of a wacky, inconsistent team, which is not what I

1027
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: expected from Dan Quinn. I don't feel like they've ever

1028
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: really found their footing post hideous super Bowl loss. Watch

1029
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: out now Calvin Ridley. There's there's a guy to get behind.

1030
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: Fantasy heads. Yeah, they're a pass first team. I mean

1031
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: to me, the running game that's never good under Quinn,

1032
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be fine if Girly is not. I'm

1033
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: seeing another one backfield in the NFL when they went

1034
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. I guess I'm thinking post Super

1035
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Bowl that that that's fair. They have the same story

1036
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: every year. They stink to start the year, they closed

1037
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: strong on defense, and everyone thinks that the defense of

1038
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: improvement will carry over, and for whatever reason, it never does.

1039
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: They need their draft picks to show up. Kayleb McGarry

1040
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: their right tackle first round pick last year was terrible.

1041
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, they got healthy and

1042
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: it's like a run fair old line. They need Tack

1043
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: McKinley to show up. They need a J. Torrell to

1044
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: show up who they drafted over Steedee Lamb. A lot

1045
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: of their draft picks haven't play the last four games.

1046
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: Greg Seconds, I don't know. I got out before the

1047
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: beef pays the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Bucks instantly became

1048
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: the most interesting stories in the NFL when they swapped

1049
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: out Jamis for Tom Brady than they brought his buddy

1050
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: Gronk out of retirement for good measure. Smart people, smart

1051
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: people like a Chris Westling, like a Brian Baldinger are

1052
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: very high on this defense. The offense will almost certainly

1053
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: be better or at the very least more responsible with

1054
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: TV twelve after controls. But what's the true ceiling here?

1055
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: That's what I really want to know about this team.

1056
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Are they are Bucks like this frisky, fun off season

1057
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: story that will give some good teams scare or are

1058
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: they a bona fide super Bowl contender with this makeup ceiling.

1059
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: I think they're a super Bowl team. I think you

1060
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: could put ten twelve teams in that mix, and I

1061
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: would say they're one of them there absolutely. I mean,

1062
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: with the talent on both sides, My concern would be

1063
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: they had a historic run defense, one of the best

1064
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: of all time, and the defensive improvement was really impressive,

1065
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: and I love the personnel. Usually when you improve that

1066
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: much from one year to the next, you're just trying

1067
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: to hold on. So I think a lot of people

1068
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: are kind of thinking are they going to take the

1069
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: next step on defense? History would say they'd actually be

1070
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: more likely to take a step back. For as much

1071
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: as they went from basically thirty one in the league

1072
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: two to a very good defense by the end of

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00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: last year. Players are there, though, like the personnel is

1074
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: as good as almost any team in terms of starters. Biden,

1075
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: I think you have to put their ceiling at the

1076
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, UM, because I think the question is Tom Brady,

1077
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: and I think that he's he's lost quite a bit

1078
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: in the last two years. UM. Other people think he

1079
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: has it and we'll find out the answer to that.

1080
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 1: But it's within the realm of possibility that he's still

1081
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: a guy. If you get to the playoffs, he can

1082
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: guide you to three or four wins and get that

1083
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I like hearing things like O. J. Howard

1084
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: has had Tom Brady all over the practice in a

1085
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: good way, like you know that his game's changed because

1086
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Brady is so meticulous that he's addressing everyone on the

1087
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: offense around him. It's a little It's a team with

1088
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: what five four or five I like post prime time

1089
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: games if they ever started like one in three, and

1090
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: I understand that Tom Brady is probably, like you know,

1091
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: at this point of clone, mentally imperfect and can't be shaken.

1092
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: But this is a team with no playoff experience around them,

1093
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: Like if they really got off to a rough start,

1094
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: is this locker room able to overcome something like that?

1095
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think the one thing you you mentioned

1096
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: here too is the coaching. You know. I think we

1097
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: know you love top Bowls and Bruce Arians together. I

1098
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: love the no nonsense throughout training camp, the fact that

1099
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, we went after Brady in the offense after

1100
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: their off day what was it last week, at the

1101
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: beginning of last week. But but to me, it's it's

1102
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: already been said. I mean Greg said it. There's a

1103
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: ton of talent on this team, and they're Super Bowl caliber.

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: Talent on this team. And you look at you mentioned

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00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: their schedule. I just pulled it up. Yeah, you start

1106
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: with the Saints, but after that Panthers, Broncos, Chargers, Bears.

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00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing they'll probably have an opportunity to get

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00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: some momentum at the start of the season. Greg ten

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00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: and a half wins over under three. I'm going under

1110
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: Ken zero. I mean division Money's mad alright, closed after

1111
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: love that, he sets it up with, I think they

1112
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: can win the Super Bowl over under ten and f

1113
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: wins under man. I'm a business and on the fence.

1114
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: On the fence, alright, Money closed out this division. All right,

1115
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: here we go. This can't be overstated again, going back

1116
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: to my college football appreciation slash passion. In Matt Rule's

1117
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: previous two stops, he accomplished the impossible. The Temple Owls

1118
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: found themselves in the ap Top twice after having never

1119
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: appeared there since nineteen seventy nine. That's what he did

1120
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: at Temple. After that, he goes to a Baylor program

1121
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: that was a disgrace, a scourge on their entire university campus.

1122
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: He basically dismissed the entire team and just wore a

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00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: one in eleven season, only two years later to be

1124
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 1: an overtime overtime against Oklahoma away from making the College

1125
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: Football Playoff. He is an awesome, freaking coach and a

1126
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: great leader of men. Anyone that's ever been around him,

1127
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: we'll tell you that. How much talent does he have

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00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: on that team, that's the question, um. But I think

1129
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: there's some there. I absolutely love Derek Brown, the rookie,

1130
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: and if Kawan Shorts healthy, that's gonna be formidable. And

1131
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: you know the offense has obviously Christian McCaffrey and and

1132
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: d J. Moore that I think you can be excited about.

1133
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm actually looking forward to seeing that the

1134
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: Panthers are gonna knock somebody off. They're gonna knock one

1135
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: or two teams off late in the season. I just

1136
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: believe that much in Matt Rule. I really do. I am.

1137
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: I am with you. I am. It is not cool

1138
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: aid that I'm drinking It's truth, sireum, because what you

1139
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: said is real And I think he's that kind of guy.

1140
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: And you know what, there's David Tepper probably knows it's

1141
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a rough season out of the gate. I

1142
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: think the Panthers are the kind of team. They're saying

1143
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: that probably will be twenty five different players from last

1144
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: year's roster to start the year. They're tearing it down

1145
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: to the studs. There's patients, but there are pieces, and

1146
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: I think this is the kind of team that you're

1147
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: gonna see Matt Rule develop and grow them week after week.

1148
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: And I'm Monty. I hear they're gonna drop a bomb

1149
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: on someone in late December and total chaos is temper

1150
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: and honest? Is excuse me? Is that he's very honest?

1151
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: Is temper? A patient man? We look at the contract,

1152
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean the contracts Brewdin esque in terms of we

1153
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: understand what has to happen here. I'm not really plugged

1154
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: into the zeitgeist um on this Panthers team. Are they

1155
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: expected to be like a three win team? I see

1156
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: them more as like a six or seven team. I

1157
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: think six or seven. I think going back to what

1158
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: Greg said the division, I mean, you know, you gotta

1159
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: you gotta go up against the Saints, Bucks and Falcons twice.

1160
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: So I think they're probably teams. Don't think of them

1161
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: as the worst roster in the league, you know, but

1162
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: I think they're an injury or two away from it.

1163
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: I I yeah, they could be frisky, and I'm I'm

1164
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: excited to watch them, But man, they're like a Shack

1165
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: Thompson injury away from who I mean, they have no

1166
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: on that line after they have no one in the secondary. Uh,

1167
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: you're counting on Matt Rules coaching to to do it.

1168
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: But it's the offensive line. To me, there are a

1169
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: couple of key injuries away from one in fifteen. It's

1170
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: just no matter how good your coaches. I think they

1171
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: have one of the thinnest rosters in the NFL. Rule

1172
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: turn temple around right in bail around, But what do

1173
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: you do the first year? He kind of set the

1174
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: groundwork right. He went the foundations fair and I'll take

1175
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: the dart here. I don't care. Teddy Bridgewater average six

1176
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: point two air yards for attempt. I don't eighteen per attempt.

1177
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo given Jimmy Garoppolo got seven minutes away from

1178
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with the exact same stet. All right,

1179
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: let's let's close it out of the NFC with Jimmy

1180
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: Garoppolo money and Jimmy Garoppolo and those Niners. Uh. Some

1181
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: say it's the best lines in football, not line lines.

1182
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: After they traded for Trent Williams offensive line, I don't

1183
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: have a question about it. With mclen she and Trent

1184
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Williams book end and you know, whatever people want to call.

1185
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Is it outside zone, is it stretched zone, is it

1186
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: wide zone? Who knows whichever guy is carrying the ball.

1187
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: It's freaking awesome, So that I think will be the same.

1188
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: I feel like the DeForest Buckner trade is being overlooked

1189
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: and just kind of accepted more than it should be.

1190
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: Nick Bose is amazing, but freaking Buckner was a nightmare,

1191
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: and the two of them together were what led to

1192
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: that defense being that special because I look at the

1193
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: secondary and I go, it's it's okay. I mean, I

1194
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: watched to give up a ten point lead in the

1195
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and get dusted down the field, So I

1196
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: have a concern there. Armstead was thought to be a

1197
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: guy that was on his way out before he accepted

1198
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: a discount deal. Um And and obviously kin Law is

1199
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be always just like DeForest Buckner. Okay, great,

1200
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: a rookie is just like one of the best defensive

1201
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: tackles in the league. Um So, to me, it comes

1202
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: down to what Greg alluded to a moment ago is

1203
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: is Jimmy Garoppolo who helped guide a team to a

1204
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and perhaps part of the reason why they

1205
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: lost the Super Bowl the right guy? And and will

1206
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: we see a fall off by this defense? I wonder too,

1207
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: like about d Ford being like such a key factor.

1208
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: He's missed a lot of time in training camp, and

1209
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: you look at this team. I think there's so much

1210
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: to like in terms of the coaching staff and in

1211
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: terms of like the depth of personnel. They can survive

1212
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: uh an injury. But I do wonder when you're counting

1213
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: on like, let's say Jordan read like Jordan reads a

1214
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: guy I'm intrigued, And it just feels like there's a

1215
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: lot of Jordan reads on this roster of like guys

1216
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: that like if everything goes right with him or d

1217
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: Ford or Debot coming back or your first round pick,

1218
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: I you coming back from an injury, Like this thing

1219
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: could be electric. But it does feel like they have

1220
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: a little more. You could either get a lot or

1221
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: you could get nothing. Guys that then you would want

1222
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: as like the NFC favorite. I think it's the Shanahan

1223
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: thinks that demo Samuel might even be back for Week one.

1224
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: That's that's good, But you go back a couple outside

1225
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: of last year, people were talking about Shanahan and Lynch

1226
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: kind of on the hot seat, and it was all

1227
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: because those previous teams were shattered by injuries. So I

1228
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: if they're not healthy in this division, any unhealthy team

1229
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: is going to get into a whole lot of trouble.

1230
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: It's like two thousand and sixteen in that training camp

1231
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: with Jordan Reed and then Jared McKinnon is another guy

1232
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: where you're reading that none of the linebackers and they've

1233
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: got some good coverage linebackers like Fred Warner, Um and

1234
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: Kwan Alexander, they can't cover this guy on the backfield.

1235
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: So so McKinnon in the passing game could be a

1236
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: nice acts factor. Keep an eye on Warner. You got

1237
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: put on the COVID nineteen list. Uh just last weekend.

1238
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: Was kind of the first big name in a long

1239
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: time to get put on that, and uh, you just

1240
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: don't know when he's going to be back. Otherwise, him

1241
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: in Green Law might be the best linebacker duo around,

1242
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: certainly one of them that could be weeks ten and

1243
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: a half wins over under Niners Greg way way over over,

1244
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: way over. Wow. Alright, Matt money Smith, I know that

1245
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: you have hugely popular UH sports radio program called Petros

1246
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: and Money that you need to prepare for us. So

1247
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna gotta with Mark Cessler and his family. I'll bet.

1248
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you so much for joining

1249
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: us and you money on next week when we pick

1250
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: up the Power Ranking Show and his Power rank who

1251
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: delivers his power rankings out? You can you can get

1252
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: me with the dart here, okay everything. It's so easy

1253
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: to get him to move off of his point and

1254
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: just with one bold statement, I got the Cowboys number one.

1255
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: Well that's stupid. Well you know I wasn't gonna put

1256
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: him at number one, but you know it's It's all

1257
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: comes with a lot of nuance. I'm always on the

1258
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: fence on with the rankings, and Money has a way

1259
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: of moving me off it. You learn out all week,

1260
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: you've learned for the best. Damnit checkond always canvassing the

1261
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: entire office for opinions before he produces the result. You

1262
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: know there's nothing wrong with you. Thank you, Thank you, Matt. Later, alright,

1263
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: let's close out the rest of the NFC West and

1264
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: the NFC in total, starting with the Seahawks. Alright, so

1265
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: that trade for Jamal Adams positioned in many places as

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Speaker 1: a quote unquote final piece type move by the Seahawks,

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: the team that was willing to mortgage their future for

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01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: the here and now, and on one level, that makes sense.

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: Ten win team last year won a playoff game, UH,

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01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: and adding a player of Adam's ability can only help

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: get him over the hump. But is this is is

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01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: this reality? Is this team a Super Bowl contender? Or

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01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: is it still a pretty lopsided uh team with a

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01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: lot of question marks on defense that probably will end

1275
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: up going about the same place about ten wins, nine

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: to ten or eleven wins, maybe a playoff win, maybe

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: one and done. Are they actually closer to the Super Bowl?

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01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I think a little bit, not not much,

1279
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: because the past, the lack of a pass rush kind

1280
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: of mitigates the excitement that you have in the secondary.

1281
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: Secondary could be among the best in the league with Adams.

1282
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: There can um in the trade pick up from the

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: Redskins that they got to dunbar. But it's I I

1284
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: think they're Super Bowl contender as long as Russell Wilson

1285
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: is there, like, it's amazing how they keep getting to

1286
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: the final eight with with all the problems that they have.

1287
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: They only need to have a few other things. Kind

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01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: of lock in their offensive line is like a massive

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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: question mark. But when you have Russell Wilson, you have

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01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: such a high floor, and you've got some other pretty

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01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: premier talent on the team, and you have a good

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01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: coach that I yeah, I think they can have a

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01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: couple of things go right for them and they're back

1294
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. It's kind of like it's easy

1295
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: to forget because they were eleven and five and the

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01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: Niners were thirteen and three. That they lost in Week

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: seventeen to the Niners to twenty one. But had they

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 1: won that, they would have wanted to half a yard

1299
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: short from And we've been pinpointing I'm not talking about

1300
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: legion of Boom at its peak era, but in the

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01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: last you know, three or four or five years, three

1302
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: or four years, it's like there's one aspect about the

1303
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks that we just can't get over, and that's why

1304
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna finally tumble off the scene. But they've made

1305
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs every year since we've worked at NFL Dot

1306
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: com Dan two thousand eleven. So it's like, you know,

1307
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I completely trust in a weird year Russell

1308
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: Wilson and Peake Caroll just to get it done. They

1309
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: just do. And like, are they get what done? You're

1310
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna get into the playoffs games? What I do? And

1311
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: I yes, and I trust them to win a playoff game.

1312
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: And frankly, and this is I'm not putting this on

1313
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: you because I know that. I think that, like, you know,

1314
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: the Jamal Adams sing a little bit is a lot

1315
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: of hot takes. The Joal Jamal Adams now is just

1316
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: not that important of a player. I completely disagree with that.

1317
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: And I think he don't think anybody saying that, well

1318
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: there is the safeties don't matter. I mean, he's you know,

1319
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: he's not Derwin James. It's like, Jamal Adams is an

1320
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: impact player who is going to make a big, big,

1321
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: positive change for the Seahawks. I would I'd bank on that.

1322
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't that right to me? Like they've been at

1323
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: their best at times when they've been had the best

1324
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: ground game in the league, and then they've been at

1325
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: their best at times when they left Russell Wilson take

1326
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: over the offense, So which one are they and who's

1327
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback? Clouds and the guys that LJ.

1328
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: Collier like, I see the guy all right, shut up,

1329
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: ye Rams out alright. You know, by the way, you

1330
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: knew Ricky would be reckless with a gun our Juna.

1331
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 1: He used it when it needed to be used. Ricky

1332
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: is problematic. Ricky is like eight hundred more reasons to

1333
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: be annoyed with us than our Jina. I mean, you know, alright,

1334
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: well there we go. Uh look the Rams, I'm kind

1335
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: of I've been a little you know, I've been annoyed

1336
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: with the Rams in the past. I don't feel that way.

1337
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: I really think this is Rams two point oh experience

1338
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: and the Sean McVeigh has I think reimagined what this

1339
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: team can be on offense, and I think he's probably

1340
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: taken a hard look at reimagining himself as well. I mean,

1341
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an you know, continuation of last year,

1342
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: a tight end, heavy attack. I mean, using them much

1343
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: more than they did early on with Higbie and Everett. Uh,

1344
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: the whole girly thing melted down. But I really like

1345
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: this stable of runners, cam Akers, Darryl Henderson, Malcolm Brown,

1346
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: we had less steed on it. He was like unwilling

1347
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: to say which one of them was going to kind

1348
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: of be the lead guy. That can be a bad thing,

1349
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: but in this case, I don't buy that. Van Jefferson

1350
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: has been one of the few kind of football nuggets

1351
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: you can really pull off of hard knocks, the son

1352
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: of an NFL wide receiver. I like that to me.

1353
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: This team, outside of the offensive line and the fact

1354
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: that you could spend ten thousand generations looking for a

1355
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: personality or a fire inside of Jared Goff, feels like

1356
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: a playoff entry and I what do you? Where are

1357
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: you with Thattion? So that's thirty thousand years? Like ten

1358
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: thousand years wasn't enough. You needed twenty thousand more years

1359
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: to find that personality. Yeah, he should put out one

1360
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: of those tapes where it like puts you to sleep.

1361
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: He just reads from a book or something. I would

1362
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: be asleep and probably about twenty seconds. They've made all

1363
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: these rockbuster trades to deplete their draft picks. So at

1364
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: the after all that happened, everybody was saying, you know,

1365
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: the draft is gonna be really important for the Rams

1366
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: having those mid round picks instead of early round picks,

1367
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: and then I look up and I see my neighbor

1368
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: j B. Long played by play voice of the Ramsweet

1369
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: cam Akers Van Jefferson, outside linebacker Tarrell Lewis, and then

1370
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: two of the safeties they drafted, I think Tarrell Burgess

1371
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: and um, who's the other guy? Um? I think Fooller.

1372
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: All five of those guys look like future starters and

1373
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: should be rookie contributors. I think that's exactly what they needed.

1374
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: This team looks refreshed to me, and they do feel

1375
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: like a playoff team, and they can be so much

1376
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: diverse on offense. So you mentioned Mark how they can

1377
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: use the tight ends, and I think that was important.

1378
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: Late late this year, I think McVeigh maybe got a

1379
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: little predictable. You know, they use eleven personnel with the

1380
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: three receivers more than any team, and suddenly they used

1381
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: the two tight ends. They were scoring thirty points a

1382
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: game last five weeks of the year. Golf played pretty

1383
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: well down the stretch. And now you've got the two

1384
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 1: tight ends, but you've also got the three receivers because

1385
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: you have been Jefferson's probably taken over for Reynolds, and

1386
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to put money on this too. But man,

1387
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: I think the district not disrespect, but I think people

1388
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: don't appreciate how good Cup is Cooper Cup because they

1389
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: think he's still the guy who was as a rookie.

1390
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: And to me, he's closer to Keenan Allen and Feeling

1391
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: and Godwin as one of the best slot guys in

1392
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,839
Speaker 1: the league in a top ten or eleven receiver period.

1393
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: He's gotten better every year, so I think he can

1394
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: keep getting better. You have one of the best number

1395
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: twos in woods. There's a lot to like, a lot

1396
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot at the top level of like, especially on

1397
01:10:49,439 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: office post post type sleeper candidate here. Everyone, Yeah, we're

1398
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: digging out, We're digging the rims. I'm gonna talk about it.

1399
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish off with the Cardinals, um who who've

1400
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: got their problems. Um. But what I'm looking for is

1401
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: whether they're gonna be revolutionaries, you know, whether they're gonna

1402
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: be as fast as we heard in camp, whether they're

1403
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: gonna be the fastest team in the league. They were

1404
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: the fourth fastest team we talked a little bit about

1405
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: on our broadcast with a rookie quarterback. Now, what are

1406
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: they gonna do that they can actually have four wide

1407
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: receivers that you can believe in because they ran four

1408
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: wide a third of the time. That's, you know, quadruple

1409
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: the amount that any team in the NFL did, So

1410
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: they really are running things differently than any team in

1411
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: the league. And now you've got four, You've got Kirk,

1412
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: I think Isabella probably the fourth. If not, it's Keyshawn Johnson, Um,

1413
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: you have Fitzgerald of course, and Hopkins. It's a fun

1414
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: group and I think they're not gonna win that many games.

1415
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I think they could be fun and not

1416
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: win any more than they did a year ago because

1417
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: the defense and the offensive line, in the secondary, there's

1418
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of issues. But I want to see Kingsbury

1419
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: just go for it and be be a different flavor

1420
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: that the NFL could use. You know, the Ravens are

1421
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: a different flavor, and the Cardinals to me, should be

1422
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: on the total opposite side of things and at least

1423
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. With this group, I think they

1424
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,919
Speaker 1: can win more games because they start with the Niners,

1425
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna be teams figuring themselves out.

1426
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: But then they have Washington, the Lions, the Panthers, and

1427
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: the Jets, so that's a chance for a fast s

1428
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: and they You're right, they were the fourth fastest team.

1429
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: The difference between like the fourth and the third is

1430
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: like point eight seconds or something. It's like, we're not

1431
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like they were seventeen minutes faster

1432
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: than the next team. It's it's me or seconds there.

1433
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: That's who they are and then and that's who Kingsbury

1434
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: has always been. So I trust it. Yeah, I'll be

1435
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: interested to see if if this spreads around the league,

1436
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: like if Greg saying if it's revolutionary next year, there

1437
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: should be two or three teams or more doing what

1438
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: they're doing. And I think at some level they are

1439
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: um but it's just not as dramatic like when Drew

1440
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: Lock came in. You know, you saw them going four

1441
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: wide all the time. You see a lot of empty

1442
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: you see a lot of four wide. The difference is

1443
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: like teams are thrown in there as flavors and for

1444
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: the Cardinals is kind of their base offense, or I

1445
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: think Kingsbury wants it to be because partly because they

1446
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: want to run the ball, and by spreading out so much,

1447
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 1: you're going up against six man boxes and you're gonna

1448
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: have a lot of success in the ground game doesn't

1449
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: mean Kenyan Drake is not gonna get a lot of run, right,

1450
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: And Kenyan Drake and Chase Edmonds are used in the

1451
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: passing game. And I'll never forget when we were in

1452
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: London and the Cardinals were just starting to like find

1453
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: their way, and we were watching at that time David

1454
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: Johnson and you know, Edmunds just tearing people up catching

1455
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: the ball and yards after the catch. So I just

1456
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: kind of liked the whole deal. I mean, be fun

1457
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: to watch in or what are you doing? I agree

1458
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: with that. You know, one thing that jumped out to

1459
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: me when I was reading the Great Evan Silva his

1460
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: Shy Away thirty he has Joan dre Hopkins way up

1461
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: on his list of people to avoid in fantasy obviously

1462
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: very different than real football, but he pointed out the

1463
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen Cardinals ranked eighteenth, and past attempts twenty second,

1464
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: and offensive plays young Lary Fitzgeld, Christian Kirk, Kenyan Drake

1465
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: all in the house target competition, and it's just gonna

1466
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 1: be different than in Houston where he was just getting

1467
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: fed the ball over and over again. Will he be

1468
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: as big a difference maker as maybe we all presumed

1469
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: him to be. Watch him get that money in the

1470
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: next few days. That contracts coming, you got, You got

1471
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: that on good authority. I just think you want to

1472
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: keep DeAndre happy. They've been doing some financial moves to

1473
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 1: like free up money, and so that now is the

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Speaker 1: time of year you sign your veterans good stuff. All right,

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Speaker 1: there you go. We just went around the NFC in

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Speaker 1: forty eight minutes. Thank you to Matt money Smith for

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Speaker 1: joining us for most of that exercise and giving us

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Speaker 1: some great on the boots inside on the Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Chargers and um boys. We're getting there now, eight days

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Speaker 1: away from football as we record this West. Now that

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Speaker 1: your doctor sent you home for the week, do we

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Speaker 1: get you on Friday? Also, like, where are we at Youah,

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Speaker 1: barring the unforeseen, I'll be here. Excellent, a whole week

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Speaker 1: of West. What a blessing for the podcast and the audience.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we'll be back Friday with our rundown show.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we'll also be doing our network taping, so

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Speaker 1: make sure you set your DVRs or watch it on

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Speaker 1: Friday afternoon when it goes live on the web. They

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