1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The first presidential debate is in the books. Meghan Kelly 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: is going to join us to talk about this debate 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: and what advice you would have for the president. Also, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: Joe Biden doesn't like INTIFA, just kidding, he really does, 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: but don't worry. It's not a really group somehow, he says, 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: it's just an idea, even though they're torching American cities. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Oh and the Green New Deal, he says he doesn't 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: like it, except his website says he loves it. The 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson Show podcast starts right now. All right, welcome 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: to Ben Ferguson Podcast. It's nice to have you with 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: us after the first presidential debate. And a dear friend 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: of mine who I've been doing TV with now I'm 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: getting old, and this is how I know I'm getting old. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: For gosh, I don't know fifteen years is joining me today. 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: She's actually done one of these debates, and she has 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: an incredible new podcast that has just started last week. 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Meghan Kelly is joining me now. Megan, it's always a 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: pleasure to see you. It's been forever and it's nice 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: to have you on the podcast today. And now you're 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: doing in the podcast We're gonna talk about that a 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: little bit later, and people need to download your podcast. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: But you look at this first president to debate, you've 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: done this before. What was your big takeaway from this 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: first night of I think it's fair to call it chaos. Yeah, 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: it was chaotic. I start to look at it more. 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: I know, people, it was a hot master, there's no question, 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: But I also look at it more like watching two 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: boxers in the ring and you're trying to figure out, 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, what's the approach here? And Trump was on 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: offense the entire night, jabbing jabbing, jabbing, jabbing, jabbing, and 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Biden kept running to the ropes. You know, he's trying 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: to get into the corner, like h scary man and 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: so like I think from that standpoint, you would either 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: fall in love with Trump or you'd be agree with Trump. 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Right if you like if you like an aggressor if 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: you like somebody who looks strong, you're falling more in 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: love with him. If you're the woman in the suburb 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: who just wants him to be a little bit more 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: polite and genteel, you're ah, Trump, what are you doing? 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: But I think it was all about Trump and not 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: about Biden, and that's probably a win for Biden, right 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: since he's ahead in most of these uh swing state polls. 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, I talked to somebody at the Trump campaign 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: and they were like, what did you think. I said, guys, 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: interrupting is an art in a debate. I argue that 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: you use interrupting if there's something you need to nail 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: the opponent on. But if you interrupt everything, it takes 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: away from the real big points. There was one big point, 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: and I want to get your reaction to this, and 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: it was the point about Antifa and the idea. And 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was a huge gaff by Joe Biden 52 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: where he literally said that Antifa is an idea. Take 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: take a look at this. Somebody's got to do something 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: about Antifa and the left, because this is not a 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: right wing problem. This is a LEFTI is supremisist. Antifa 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: is an idea and not an organism. You got it, Poli, 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: That's what it is. Tony Fbi his FBI directors, Well, then, 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Megan, the idea when everybody on TV has 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: been seeing what Antifa has been doing the stays around 60 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: the country, that this is somehow not an organization idea. 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he actually said that. Not only that, 62 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: but that really in many ways he kind of got 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: away with it, completely got away with it, and talk 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: about taking something out of context. So FBI Director Ray said, 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: Antifa is an he said, it's not an organization, right, 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: and Trump his short form was you gotta be kidding me. 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: But I actually looked it up, so I remember the 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: guy came out and clarified it, and Director Ray went 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: on to clarify that this group is a movement, a 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: quote real thing, not a fiction, that engages an organized 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: tactical activity at the local and regional level. It's dangerous. 72 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: So to summarize that with it's just an idea, it's 73 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: just come on, like, you've got to been kidding. We've 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: seen them, we've seen them shoot police officers, like, please 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: spare us. The someone's just thinking about doing an anti 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: fascist thing. We'll see, we'll see what happens. It's it's 77 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: the point that I saw last time. I'm sitting there going, okay, 78 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: this is when you do interrupt, this is when you pounce, 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: this is when you don't let him up off the ropes. 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: And then it was like Wallace, who you know you've 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: done debate to them. It was almost like he stepped 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: in to take a punch for Joe Biden, like Okay, 83 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: it's getting bad here, let's let's separate this. A lot 84 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: of people criticized him for that last night. I want 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: your take on that. Oh you know, I felt for him, 86 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: and I'm loath to criticize him because I understand how 87 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: hard it is. It's a high wire act, and that 88 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: was unlike anything anybody's had to deal with. I mean, 89 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Trump was just he wouldn't let anybody get a word 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: in edgewise. So I wish Chris had done a few 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: different things to maintain control. And I do think, unfortunately 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: for him, where he did try to serve control every 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: time in an order to Biden's benefit, and not once 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: did it in order to Trump's. So that's why people 95 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: were left with a bad taste in their mouth. But 96 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I will tell you when I looked at that and 97 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: the chaos of the debate, I blamed Biden from missing 98 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity. It was a present Trump's fault with the interrupting. 99 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Biden did like four interruptions and he's kind 100 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: Because don't get me wrong, Trump was the problem and 101 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: when you're talking about order. But Biden had an opportunity. 102 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: If I were advising Biden, I would have said, raise up, 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: don't look at Chris Wallace as your daddy. He's not daddy. 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Daddy's not going to stop the fight. You want George 105 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Washington's job. You go out there, you'd find a way 106 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: to make it stop. And you have an opportunity to 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: look at him and say, Donald, we've got an hour 108 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: and a half. We've got eighty to ninety million people 109 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: likely watching this, and they're trying to make a really 110 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: important decision, So can we just make a deal. I 111 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: won't interrupt you, and please don't interrupt me, just out 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: of respect for the audience at home. It doesn't matter 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: what Trump says or whether Trump actually agrees. You just 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: look like a statesman. It would have been a sound 115 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: bite moment. Don't whine, yeah, just try to be above 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: it all. And then Ben from that point forward, whenever 117 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Trump interrupted me, I would I would have mucked him, 118 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: like from the high ground. I would have looked over 119 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: it and like you seem up, said do you need 120 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: a break? Getting the better of you? Are you? Are 121 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: you gonna be okay? And that would have driven Trump nuts. 122 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: There was one optic last night, and I laughed because 123 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: I knew how the media was going to respond to it. 124 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: Every time that Biden got very angry or upset, he 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: did what the media accuses Trump all he doing, doing 126 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: name calling. He said he was a racist. He told him, literally, 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: the President Night States America, to shut up. If Trump 128 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: would have done that, they would have said Trump's unhinged. 129 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Trump comes unglued, Trump is erratic and cannot be trusted 130 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: with nuclear codes. We've we've seen this play out before, 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: but you saw last night when Biden got really irritated, 132 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: very quickly, he went to straight up name calling. Shut up, 133 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: be quiet, You're a racist, you're a big at, you 134 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: support white supremacists. And that is a point that I 135 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: think the President did not capitalize on enough, saying if 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: he can't even take heat from me, how do you 137 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: think he's going to do dealing with the rest of 138 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: the world and people that hate us well, And ironically, 139 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: those wound up being self inflicted wounds by Biden. To Biden, 140 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: because every time he did it, he did it right 141 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: after he made a salient point, right like he did 142 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: a wind up. He made a point Trump hadn't interrupted him, 143 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: and then he'd land it with some petty insult like well, 144 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: you're the worst prison in the world. You were like, yeah, wait, 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: you're kind of seven presidential. You us getting your point 146 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: and then like and then of course Trump would respond 147 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: to it with like roa, and then you're back on 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the playground and you're thinking about the personal insults instead 149 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: of his point that he wanted us to hear A Biden. 150 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, I talk every day for three hours on 151 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: the radio and this podcast as well, and the one 152 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: thing I can tell that voters really care about in 153 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: this election, and it's where I think Donald Trump has 154 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: the biggest advantage. It's not even the economy it used 155 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: to be. It's law and order and the president needs 156 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: to capitalize on that more than any other issue right now. 157 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Because you can watch every night and in liberal cities 158 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: for one hundred plus days, in place like Portland, you 159 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: what you see is you see lawlessness in these liberal cities. 160 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: And last night he did have an excellent point, and 161 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: I want to play that for you. It is where 162 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: the President talked about, Hey, Biden, name one organization that 163 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: has endorsed you in law enforcement no one trusts you 164 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: in law enforcement. And of course you know Biden said, 165 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: oh that's not true, it's bologna. You fact check it. 166 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: And what the media loves to do. No one has 167 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: endorsed a guy. Take a look at this that still funding. 168 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: That is not true. He doesn't have any law with you, 169 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: He has no law enforced. That's not true, almost nothing. Really, 170 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: who do you have? Name one group that supports you, 171 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: Name one group that came out and supported you. Go ahead, 172 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I think we have time. We don't have time to 173 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: do it. Nae law enforcement group that came out, gentlemen, 174 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna I'm gonna take back the bottom. 175 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm Trump, I turned that into a campaign, 176 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: an ad right now and run it all the way 177 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: through election day, because I think that's how he can 178 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: turn hearts and minds of the undecideds. Yeah, and you know, 179 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: law enforcement is definitely a gettable group by Democrats. Normally, 180 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, they tend to be union, they tend to 181 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: be middle class workers. It's not like this is this 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: is a group that always goes to Republic and they 183 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: were gettable. But given what's going on and how just 184 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: the uniform condemnation of police right now by the Democrats. 185 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: It's just a group that's full of racists and they're 186 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: all brutal. You know, black, white, doesn't matter. They're bad. 187 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,239 Speaker 1: Why would they why would they get behind the Democratic 188 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: Party this year? And I think, you know Trump, that 189 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: was one point he made well because he stayed all 190 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: over right like he he followed up like which one, 191 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: which one? Tell me name the name the thing, and 192 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: he couldn't do it. And I do think that in 193 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: the midst of that Proud Boys, what all that that bad, 194 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: bad section, that that was not good. Um. Trump made 195 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: a good point about it is the violence we're seeing 196 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: in the streets is coming mostly from the left. He's 197 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: right about that. He tried to turn what was an 198 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: awkward moment for him into an offense, like an offensive 199 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: moment against Biden. And because he wasn't clear and condemning 200 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Proud Boys, it got very muddled. But it is true. 201 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: The reason we've seen some militias in the streets is 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: because there was something to fight. People were going out 203 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: and turned from protesters into rioters who are flipping over 204 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: people's tables and shooting police officers. And you know, there's 205 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: some background to how they got there not to defend 206 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: their conduct, but Trump's write that the majority of the 207 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: violence has come from Antipa and it's supporting militias. You 208 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: look at the harassment of people. You as a public figure, 209 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: You've had people walk up to you and say things 210 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: and get in your face. But we're seeing this now 211 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: happen to normal people that are sitting out having dinner. 212 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that the president could really 213 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: capitalize on, saying, do you want to live in a 214 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: country where people can surround you at dinner, scream at 215 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: you and tell you that if you don't say something, 216 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: they will literally come after you even more. And that 217 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: was a missed opportunity. I think as well, you're so 218 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: right because think about it. Those those videos are so infuriating, 219 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: aren't they there? They make my blood boil. You see 220 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: some couple minding their own business, A lot of them 221 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: are supporters, well they're supporters of BLM, and the next 222 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: thing you know, their tables getting flipped or they're making 223 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: you raise the fist. You have to raise your fist 224 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: and say Black Lives Matter or or else, like we 225 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: don't know what. And I feel like it's indicative of 226 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: what's happening in the country on a larger level where 227 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: even these corporations or the NFL or the NBA, you know, 228 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you will see it our way or you 229 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: will be punished. You got it. You will do what 230 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: we say, or you're going to lose your job. Got it? 231 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's no way of winning hearts 232 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: and minds. They've completely shut down debate. Their way of 233 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: winning debate is you don't get to talk. That's it. 234 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: You listen to me, you don't get to talk. Feel 235 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: like if Trump's at any sort of ace in the 236 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: hole that he didn't create, that's it. People don't want 237 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: to live like that. We're Americans. It's a free country. 238 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: We're allowed to think what we want, We're allowed to 239 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: say what we want. And the thing we cherish more 240 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: than anything else is the free and open debate of ideas. 241 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: I was talking to a ceoar the other day about 242 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: back in the eighties and the early nineties the shakedowns 243 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: of the Alice Sharpton Jesse Jackson's where they would go 244 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: to a company and say, if you don't do what 245 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: we need you to do, and if you don't donate 246 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: to us. We're going to pick at you. We're going 247 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: to come out and say that you're hurting African American 248 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: workers and you're a racist company, or you can work 249 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: with us. What we're now saying is he described to 250 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: me as this is nationwide. No one is willing to 251 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: take on Black Lives matter, which, by the way, in 252 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: California was chanting death to America. That is a chant 253 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: that you hear by the Aetola and Iran. You hear 254 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: it from Isis and Hamas and Hezbolla on al Qaeda. 255 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: They're chanting death to America. They're chanting what do we 256 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: want dead cops when we want him now? In New 257 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: York they're chanting pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. 258 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: In Minneapolis while the police are escorting them across a 259 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: bridge for their protest. But no one has the guts 260 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: to stand up to them, none of these. I mean, 261 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: you talk about billions of dollars in advertising in sports 262 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: from the US open in the corners of every into 263 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: the court. Black lives matter on the NBA courts, the NFL, 264 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: not a single organization seems willing to stand up say 265 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to support an organization that's channing death 266 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: to America. Well, you know what you know. To me, 267 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: it's so ironic because you know who protects black lives. Police, 268 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: That's who protects black lives in the inner city from 269 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: the crime that goes on there. I think about the 270 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: women and children in these centers that are filled with 271 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: violent felonies. And when you deefund police, you take police 272 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: out of those city centers. Guess who gets hurt the 273 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: women and the children. They don't want the police presents 274 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: to go down. If you go to any of these 275 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: precinct meetings, they are arguing for more police. Women talk 276 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: about how they're relieved when they see a police in 277 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: the vestibule of their building. So it's this because something 278 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: awful happened with George Floyd, which no one would defend. 279 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: Suddenly the women in the inner city Chicago are here 280 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: in New York have to be at greater risk because 281 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: we have to get rid of the police protecting them, 282 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: because we need to push this narrative that all police 283 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: are bad and we need to get rid of them. 284 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look what just happened in Minneapolis. Ben they 285 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: defunded the police. They got rid of the entire police, 286 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: and now immediately they regret it and the board is 287 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: reversing itself and they want their police back, no kidding. Yeah, 288 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: and everyone saw that coming, right, You knew that when 289 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: they said we're going to disband the police, right, I mean, 290 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: not just defund them, disband them. And now they're just kidding, 291 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: never mind, took them three months. The other thing, if 292 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: you look at BLM's actual mission statements, and there it's 293 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: a different group depending on where you look. You know, 294 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: they have local chapters, but to pull up the one 295 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: from Seattle and take a look at their mission. What 296 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: they want is to defund the police, get rid of 297 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: the nuclear family. They don't believe in in sort of 298 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: the hetero normative family where there's a husband and a 299 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: wife who are straight, I mean, like who most people are, like, 300 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're If you're not hetero and 301 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you're not whatever, that's fine. But they're against it, like 302 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: they're against it, and they want they want to open 303 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: up the jails, they want to open up the prisons. 304 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: Everyone gets stick it out because they don't believe the 305 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: system is fair. Is that what Nike supports, is that 306 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: what the NFL is supporting. I think these people they're afraid, 307 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: they're afraid of being called racists. They pay the ransom. 308 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: So just like you talked about with Sharpton, so that 309 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: they don't, you know, if they get in trouble, they've 310 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: got this group behind it, and they haven't done their 311 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: research on what capital be. Capital l Capital M stands 312 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: for lowercase Black Lives Matter. Everyone agrees capital it's a 313 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: totally different story that group. People need to understand it 314 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: before they put their little sign up. My guests for 315 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: meeting Megan Kelly, she's a good friend of know owner 316 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: for years. And I want to take a very quick break. 317 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: We'll come back and talk about what are you doing 318 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: now this new podcast? How is life? People say it 319 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: always how's Megan? Where is she? I'm like, it's a 320 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: great question. We're gonna deal with that coming up next 321 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: in the Ben Ferguson Show podcast. But first, real quick, 322 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: I want to say thank you to our sponsor today 323 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: and that sponsor is the number one conservative organization the 324 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: country called AMAC. I want to give you a free 325 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: membership to the number one conservative organization right now. 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It is the Ben Ferguson Podcast 334 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: to my guests with me as a new podcaster to 335 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: the game, and it's going to be a very, very, 336 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: very big and successful podcast. Meghan Kelly, I get asked 337 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: this all the time for you that know that we 338 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: know each other. They're like, what is she doing? Where 339 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: is she? I miss her? Now you don't have to 340 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: miss you anymore. You guys have just launched your your 341 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: brand new podcast. Tell everybody about it. So it's called 342 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: The Megan Kelly Show. And you can download it on 343 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, your phone. I was talking to my mom. 344 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: She's like, how do I get it? I don't understand. 345 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: I said, go to your apps. You type in podcasts, 346 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: it'll come up. You click it. You got a little 347 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: button now on your phone and then you just search 348 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Megan Kelly. Very just hit subscribing, download and then you 349 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: give me a five star review. That's it. That's all 350 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: you got to do. Five star reviews important. Don't forget 351 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: that totally. And it was actually funny because I looked 352 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: at the reviews one day and it was like it 353 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: said like great, great, great, and it said Mom, Mom, Mom. 354 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I got how long? And then I 355 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: realized it was mon Monday. I had a hip moment like, oh, wow, 356 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: you went too far. You went too far. She's like, hey, 357 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: she's all in. At least she knows she's got your back. 358 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: She's awesome. So what are people gonna get with this podcast? 359 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going to do a couple of different things. 360 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: We'll do long form interviews with interesting guests, especially on 361 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: taboo subjects. I mean, I'm actually really interested to touch 362 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: every third rail because we need more people to do it. 363 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: No one's going to have these honest conversations unless more 364 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: people start having these honest conversations. You know, we have 365 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: to push back against the narrative that certain subjects are untouchable. 366 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: And so that's one, but two, I want to do 367 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: the news. So for example, today Wednesday, we dropped an 368 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: episode or about to that talks about my reaction and 369 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: my panel's reaction to Debate Debate last night, we have 370 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: like a long, interesting discussion on what worked and what 371 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: didn't work. And I think that's always something that I did. Okay, 372 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was able to take something dense and 373 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: big and sometimes confusing and condense it down to something 374 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: that was easy to digest by the audience. So I'll 375 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: be doing that too. You know. I went through the 376 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: withdrawal that I think you probably went through when I 377 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: did seven years at CNN, and then I had this 378 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: period over the last three and a half months, I've 379 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: done no TV and it's surreal, but it's also kind 380 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: of been like disconnecting from social media in a sense 381 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: where you just get this, okay, I get to relax 382 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: and not have to do that. Have you missed TV? 383 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: What part of it do you miss? Do you want 384 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: to do it again? I mean when you did that 385 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: interview at Fox a couple months ago, I love it. 386 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that if you're in TV, you know everything 387 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: And my phone blew up going and she's coming back, 388 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: She's coming back. I'm like, I have no idea. That's sweet. 389 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: So many people have said, just go back to Fox. 390 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: I want to see it. On Fox and I appreciate that, 391 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: but the truth is, I don't miss that at all. 392 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: For me. My life and cable news once I ascended 393 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: to the prime time was really tough. It was highly unpleasant, 394 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: and I just I looked around and said, I don't 395 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: want to live like this. It's not worth it to me. 396 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, I love my audience and my relationship with them, 397 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: but I need some joy in my life. And I 398 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: need to see my kids, who are only seven, five 399 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: and three when I left Fox News, so you know, 400 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: I stand by that, and I made the right decision 401 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: for me. Obviously, NBC did not work out, was not 402 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: a good choice for me, which I learned the hard way, 403 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: and I never I just kind of thought, I do 404 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: a morning show that would let me get home to 405 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: see my kids, and I didn't really think it through, 406 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: which was on me. But now that I'm free and 407 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: I can set my own schedule, on my own boss, 408 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: and I can do the news the way I want 409 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: to do it and just reconnect with my audience, I 410 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: feel totally hopeful. You know, I'm seeing my kids, I'm 411 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: seeing my husband, I'm seeing actually my friends, which is amazing. 412 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: I never had time to nurture those relationships. And so 413 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: far with this podcast, it's like I'm doing it right 414 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: now from my house. I go back there, I say 415 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: what I want to say. I have these interesting talks 416 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: and nothing's off limits, just the way I always dreamed 417 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: it could be. You know, I a couple of years ago, 418 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: I didn't feel that happy, and I wanted something that 419 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: was just pure joy because everything I did was controversial. Right, 420 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: there's always people writing nasty things, trying to take you down, 421 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: coming after you and your family. I didn't I really 422 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: didn't do much outside of like my very very small group, 423 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: and I love barbecuing, and I said, I'm going to 424 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: open a barbecue restaurant. I love doing it. No one 425 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: hates you if you make barbecue, and peoples have been 426 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: You're crazy, you can't do it. Literally, open to barbecue 427 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: restaurant in my hometown of Memphis. Well, the most joy 428 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: that I've ever gotten from a business venture, because no 429 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: one hates you, no one. It's people gather around food, 430 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: they eat. They love barbecue. There's a cult following where 431 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: people travel from California to New York and they come 432 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: and they eat and they're happy. And I've found that 433 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: what is it that you do? What is it that 434 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: people don't know that it is kind of your outlets? Now, Well, 435 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: the truth is, I have no culture in my life. 436 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: I mean, my kids are still young right now, they're eleven, 437 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: nine and seven. And what I do is I mother 438 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: my children and I see my friends. And for me, 439 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: it was a slow boil getting back to happiness because 440 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: obviously when I left NBC or, I was unhappy for 441 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: several months because I couldn't stand what was going on 442 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: with that. But then once that passed, I just I 443 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: started to see my kids again, you know. I started 444 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: to see them every night, and even while I was 445 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: at NBC, I had a lot of good time with 446 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: my kids in the evening. And then you start to 447 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: I started to do yoga, which I never did before, 448 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: and this other crazy thing called the class here in 449 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: New York City, which is so fun. What is it? 450 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: It's it's awesome. With complete this, I'm going, I'll answer you, 451 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: and so like it seeps in over time. You have 452 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: enough drinks with your friends, you do enough yoga with them, 453 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: you have enough funny lass with your kids at night 454 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: when otherwise you would have been at work on the 455 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: air and you think I feel good? Why but I 456 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: feel good? What's going on? You know? It has sort 457 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: of a natural antidepressant effect on your life. So I've 458 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: been the beneficiary of that. But okay, the class it's 459 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: closed right now. You can do it virtually, but it's 460 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: this exercise program where you go and they do like 461 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: you do aerobics, and then you get down in tone 462 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: and then you're more aerobic acting than tone. But the 463 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: interesting is because it's supposed to be kind of like therapeutic. Yeah, 464 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: well you these women are like they get down and 465 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: they work a body part. Let's saves your arms like this, 466 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: and you're doing your arms and you're doing your arms 467 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: and they it's like six minutes of your arms they're 468 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: burning and they encourage you to be like ah, I 469 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: just scream and some of the women cry. I've never 470 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: done that, but I'm there like this, like I would 471 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: be doing it to watch, like what is she gonna 472 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: do next? That's how I I'm like, oh my god, 473 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm next to a crier. I'm next to a screamer, 474 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: which is like pater You know, it's the most interesting hour, 475 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: but it does work on your body, and you know, 476 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: usually and you can totally tell who's going through a 477 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: break up and who's not right totally, and of course 478 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: they all get Trump. So whenever anything happens with Trump, 479 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: it's like, we're all stressed out right now, and I'm 480 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: kind of like whatever. But it's usually some twenty two 481 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: year old who's never been through anything trying to give 482 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: you little you know, piccadillos on how to get through life. 483 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: But they have a couple of women who are really 484 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: smart and really strong, and it was kind of just 485 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: the right thing for me to be doing for a while. 486 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: New York. I gotta ask you, you're in New York, 487 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: you've seen a mass exodus of New York. I've always 488 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: said New York with the fear is if you don't 489 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: live in New York and you're not there, then you're 490 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: not in the game. The game is now dispersed all 491 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: over the country, from even Canada down to Florida to 492 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: Middle America. I have more friends that used to live 493 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: in New York that said I'll never go back after 494 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: the fear of leaving. As Meghan Kelly, ever, you're gonna 495 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: leave or you're gonna stay a New Yorker. That's a 496 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: good point I mean I talked to Erica Rovera, you 497 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: know her all those life a doll and you know 498 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: they moved to Ohio, and she said, MK, the hardest 499 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: part about leaving New York is leaving New York. You 500 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: know how you never look back. I tell you, Ben, 501 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: we seriously are taking a hard look at it for 502 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: the first time. And it's it's not really because of COVID, 503 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: because I think the city will come back from all 504 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: the nonsense inflicted on us by our mayor God, who's 505 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: just awful. But it's everything else, like defunding the police 506 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: in New York City and just the hard left turn 507 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: that it's taken. I've always been somebody who's more of 508 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: a centrist, you know. I would say I'm center right 509 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: kind of a a couple of things that I'm more a 510 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: little bit more left on. I'm not hard right or 511 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: hard left on anything. I didn't care. I could get along, 512 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, Upper West Side people and bother me. You 513 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: don't have to talk about politics all the time. But 514 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: it's just gotten so intolerant in the schools, in the 515 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: community of any viewpoint that doesn't just submit to their worldview. 516 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: And I don't want to be around that all the time, 517 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: and I don't want my kids to be around that 518 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: all the time. And I don't want them growing up 519 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: in an environment that's anti American, because it's gotten very 520 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: anti American in some of these schools, you know, the 521 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: Howard's inn approach to history and how we're all oppressors. 522 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: And I just for the first time, Doug and I 523 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: are taking a hard look at what the options are. Hey, 524 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: you and I have a good friend and Ben Shapiro, 525 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: who he's making the move to Nashville, Tennessee from La 526 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: lived there his whole life. It's very much the same 527 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: thing we're seeing in California right now. Peo were saying, 528 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna make this decision. I'm done. Yeah. Well, 529 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if the community doesn't align with your values 530 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: and they're in their face about their values, it gets 531 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: really tiresome. And even at like you know, my daughter's school, 532 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: which I love. I love the teachers there, and don't 533 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: get me wrong, but there's a tenth grader who we know, 534 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: who of course was assigned ibramex Kendy's How to be 535 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: an Anti Racist over the summer, and I asked, you know, 536 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: just out of curiosity did they assign you? You know 537 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: Coleman Hugheses takedown of that book. Who is this incredible 538 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: intellectual who's given a very honest look at race issues. 539 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: He's black, and he's been really vocal about this movement. 540 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: And really just if you haven't read Coleman's discussion of 541 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: that book, you should, of course not. They're not interested 542 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: in giving both sides like that there. They want to 543 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: say what they think is right, to get patted on 544 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: the head so that they don't get in or called 545 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: nasty names. Well, one of the liberating things about having 546 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: been called the nasty names is they don't have that 547 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: power of you any anymore, you know, they they don't 548 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: have that power. I'm I'm fine, and if you call 549 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: me nasty names, I'm still going to be standing here 550 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: saying what I believe. And then your real challenge is 551 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: to say what you believe and to try to convince me, 552 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: not punish me into submission. I got two more questions 553 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: for you before I let you go. I was I 554 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: was asked, I think one of the most interesting questions 555 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: of my career when I was doing a speaking event 556 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: the other day and the moderator said, what is the 557 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: biggest misconception you think the public has about you? Ben, 558 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: And I said, I really love people and I really 559 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: like to have fun. I don't you know, I debate 560 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: and go to war on TV whatever. But this idea 561 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: that I'm some evil, mean person, right because of what 562 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: I've done the last seven years of seeing him where 563 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: you're always being attacked and people say, oh, he must 564 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: be a jerk or whatever. I said, that's my biggest 565 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: misconception that I would love to change. You've had a 566 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: lot of articles written about you. You've had a lot, 567 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: even a movie when you were kind of going through this. 568 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm out of you know, NBC. I've got this time 569 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: and you see all this and you decompress. What do 570 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: you think the biggest misconception is about you as a 571 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: person that you wish people would know is just not true. Well, similarly, 572 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: I think people who don't know me and people who 573 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: didn't watch my show, people who watch any of the 574 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: shows I've done, they know me better, but they think 575 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: the words the words I hear are ice Queen, that 576 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm an ice queen, and that if they only knew you, 577 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: that's just not true. Well, I'm not I'm not sure 578 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: if I want to disabuse people of it, because I 579 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of let it makes me sounding a little stronger 580 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: than I might be, but it isn't true at all. 581 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very goofy and very I have the 582 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: sense of humor of a twelve year old boy. I mean, 583 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: honestly like toilet humor. I love it so and I'm 584 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: just I don't take myself that seriously. I come from 585 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: a long line of very funny women, and this is 586 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: I laugh at everything. But as you say, you're out 587 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: there every night in the coliseum, and when you put 588 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: somebody in the coliseum and the tiger comes at them, 589 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: they're going to fight. And that also happens to be 590 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: something I know how to do well so and I 591 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: don't mind doing it. I like to fight. I am fugilistic, 592 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: so I think people just think maybe I'm not a 593 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: nice person, but I am. I'm just in the business 594 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: of fighting. When I'm working as a cable news anchor. 595 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: One of the things I'm doing on the podcast is 596 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: something I think better around it. You know something, It's 597 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: not about fighting all the time. It's about good discussions 598 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: where you learn. You feel that intellectual itch scratched while 599 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: hopefully being entertained. But make no mistake about it. If 600 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: you put somebody across from me who's saying a bunch 601 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: of nonsense or attacking me or my audience, they're gonna 602 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: get it lastly. And I know that again for people 603 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: watch her now, make sure they download your podcast. You 604 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: can subscribe, give the five stars. I want to get 605 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: one more political question in. I don't think Donald Trump 606 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: grabbed enough of the undecided in this first debate. If 607 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: I had to guess who's gonna win if the election 608 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: was today, I think there's a very good chance it 609 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: would be Biden. I want your take on that. And also, 610 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: what does Trump have to do in debates two and 611 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: three to get enough of those undecided? Because I think 612 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: we're so divided as a country. I think it's probably 613 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: forty eight forty eight, there's very little room in the middle. 614 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: You got to get above obviously that fifty, you know, 615 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: plus one to win this thing. What does Trump have 616 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: to do to get that win? I think you should 617 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: spend all the debates talking about the agenda you're going 618 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: to get if you put Joe Biden in office. You know, 619 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the last race, when Trump won 620 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: for the first time. Handy closed out his show the 621 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: night before the election with a long indictment of Hillary 622 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: Clinton and the policies you'd be getting under Hillary Clinton, 623 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: and it was it was effective. And I think if 624 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Trump just tries to stay on message, gets out of 625 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: his own way to try to focus like a laser 626 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: on what you're gonna get. Because if you look at 627 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: the two men and you're trying to make an assessment 628 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: of who's kinder, who's more genteel, who would people like more, 629 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna go with Biden, you know, given the 630 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: way they present. But when, like last night, Biden's like 631 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: it's about unity, we need to come together, It's like, Okay, 632 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: that sounds good in principle, but the people you want 633 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: me to get together with are overturning my dinner table, 634 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: telling me if I don't take a knee, they're gonna 635 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: hurt me. So I'm not sure how we're going to 636 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: unify over stuff like that. And you're saying to unify, 637 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: you might add three more justices to the Supreme Court, 638 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: which effectively nullifies the Supreme Court. So it's going to 639 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: be tough to unify over the things like that. As 640 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: much as grand as you make it sound. So Trump's 641 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: got to zero in on that, and he better get 642 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: his examples ready for the lot of God. Make your 643 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: point A, have little one and little too ready to go. 644 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Make your point B. Have little one and little too 645 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: ready to go, so you can back it up, back 646 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: it up. And I think that's all he should be doing. 647 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: And he should not be insulting and should never be interrupting. 648 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to look presidential. He just needs to 649 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: get more substantive. Last thing I got to ask you, 650 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: will we have a new president or will we know 651 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: who the president is on election night? Or how long 652 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: do you think you could drag on? Because all the 653 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: mail in Ballad I want to date. I mean, call 654 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: me crazy. I think we'll know. I think we will know. 655 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a decisive win one way or 656 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: the other. And I also think that if Trump loses, 657 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 1: there will be a peaceful transition of power. I do 658 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: think he'll do that, but I don't know. If ben 659 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't count him out. He was trailing Hillary Clinton 660 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: this time around two and I think I think a 661 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: lot of conservatives, a lot of posters, because they just 662 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: want to screw with him, and they're just not even 663 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: that okay, so yes, they want to screw with them, 664 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: but they're there are people who live like on ther 665 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: boy side, who have been shamed out of saying anything 666 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: like they're just they're just not going to tell the 667 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: truth because as soon as you say you support Trump, 668 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: you're a racist, bigot, xenophobes, sexist, transphobe. You know, I 669 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: could go on everything. Who's gonna say that? Right Like, 670 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: no one must be called that now. I'm not saying, 671 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, everybody who's sitting on the sidelines right now 672 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: is like that. But I wouldn't underestimate the secret Trump vote. 673 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: And I think if Trump keeps making the case about 674 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: what the alternative is, some of those on the fence, 675 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: moderate Democrats, moderate Republicans who are leaning Biden might come home. 676 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: The silent majority, I think is real. I agree with 677 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: you there, Megan, always a pleasure. Congrats on the new podcasts. 678 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: Everybody that is listening to this or watching this on 679 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: social media, make sure you download her new podcast. And 680 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: I hope we get to do this again soon. I 681 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: would love to anytime. Thanks down with the podcast right now, 682 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: and don't forget down with my podcast. As well Megan Kelly, 683 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: I'll see us soon. Have you been all the best? 684 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: A big thanks to our good friend Megan Kelly for 685 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: coming on the show today. Also, don't forget subscribe to 686 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: my podcast as well. You can go online to wherever 687 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts and just put in Ben ferguson 688 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: the podcast will come up. It's like the logo behind 689 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: me and you can actually subscribe to our podcast. Thank 690 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: you for watching. Share this video on social media as 691 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: well to help everyone see what we had to say today, 692 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: and also the interview with Megan Kelly. I'll see you 693 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: back again here real soon