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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 1: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do

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Speaker 1: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 1: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 1: On each episode, and we'll discuss the reasons we now

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Speaker 1: know that our loved ones have survived physical death and

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Speaker 1: so will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife today.

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Speaker 1: I thought you might be interested in hearing from Simon

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Speaker 1: boun He is a podcast host, author of the new

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Speaker 1: book Verified Near Death Experiences, proof of an afterlife. He's

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Speaker 1: also a clinical hypnotherapist who deals with past life regressions.

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Speaker 1: You can find out more about Simon at his website

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Speaker 1: Past lives Hypnosis dot co dot uk. Let's dive right

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Speaker 1: in and hear his story.

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Speaker 3: I was ten years old and I was fascinated by

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Speaker 3: all sorts of supernatural things. Like ten years old, I'd

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Speaker 3: I got older, I kind of got more into two

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Speaker 3: and I was reading books like in the eighties, I

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Speaker 3: having my own experiences. I used to go to the

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Speaker 3: College of Psychic Studies in London in the nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 3: And right from the beginning, I'd email people and so

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Speaker 3: is the near death experiences where there's some kind of

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Speaker 1: It must have taken a lot of work to investigate these.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the common threads of these near

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Speaker 1: paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain and we're here with Simon Boun, past

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Speaker 1: life regressionist and author of the new book Verified Near

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Speaker 1: Death Experiences. He was just talking about the life review

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Speaker 3: It's still the same emotional impact of the feeling you

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Speaker 3: into a swimming pool. A body was so cold. When

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Speaker 3: she was resuscitated, and you know, she's back to stability.

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Speaker 3: She was able to tell them, you know, I heard

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Speaker 3: you listening. You were listening to Hotel California by the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: and I felt a little annoyed because there was the

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Speaker 3: line you can check out, but you can never leave.

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Speaker 3: She's told them what they were talking about. There was

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Speaker 3: a point where they needed to get a really nice

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Speaker 3: vein or artery as to something they would patch in here.

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Speaker 3: And they took it from her leg and the nurse

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Speaker 3: that was going to get it said to the doctor,

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Speaker 3: they're too small. It's not going to work, and he said,

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Speaker 3: try the other leg. That was accurate, and they know

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Speaker 3: that her brain was flatlined when these things were going on.

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Speaker 3: And she accurately described the bone saw, where she described

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Speaker 3: as looking like an electric toothbrush, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 3: it is. It's like got a a thing sticking out

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00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: the top with a circular saw and you press the

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Speaker 3: button and it spins, and that's how they would cut

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Speaker 3: into the bone. And she described the case it was

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Speaker 3: in and all the attachments, and she said it like

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Speaker 3: a socket set you'd have for your car. And the

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Speaker 3: thing is, when she was taken into the operating theater,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff was covered with a cloth to keep

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Speaker 3: it sterile, so she couldn't have seen it. Also, as

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Speaker 3: I said, she had the specially molded earplugs in, so

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Speaker 3: she couldn't have heard the music, she couldn't have heard

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Speaker 3: the conversation. She couldn't have seen anything even if she

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Speaker 3: was awake. So I think that's a really great case

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Speaker 3: because there's so many things that happened while they can

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Speaker 3: be sure she was dead, because basically they killed her.

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Speaker 3: And I've heard that there's a researcher who's really great

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Speaker 3: for this stuff, Samparneer. I think it is they took

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Speaker 3: her through in the early nineties of freezing the person

464
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Speaker 3: and shutting them down, like they call it standstill. That's

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Speaker 3: more of a common technique now, and I think Sampanier

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Speaker 3: wants to go where those operations are happening and to

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Speaker 3: set up something to see if the near death experiencer

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Speaker 3: will see something in the room while they can be

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Speaker 3: sure that their body is dead. And I think he's

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Speaker 3: called the Aware Study three that he's trying to get together.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got to go through those ethics boards

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Speaker 3: and things and get permissions.

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Speaker 1: More stories when we get back, plus talk of past

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Speaker 1: life regressions and spirit guides. You're listening to Shades of

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Speaker 1: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a

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Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain here with Simon and Bound talking about

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Speaker 1: verified and near death experiences. Simon, you mentioned Randy. Is

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Speaker 1: that another verified experience?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one. This was at the beginning

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Speaker 3: of COVID. Randy felt very ill and he went to

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Speaker 3: the doctor and asked for a COVID test and the

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Speaker 3: doctor said, no, we don't have it in this area.

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Speaker 3: You've probably just got the flu. And he went home

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Speaker 3: and you got worse and worse. Saw the doctor again

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Speaker 3: and again the doctor refused the COVID test, and then

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Speaker 3: his daughter came to see him and saw how bad

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Speaker 3: he was and called her sister, who was a nurse,

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Speaker 3: and the nurse said, get him to hospital now, and

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Speaker 3: they did an xtray on his lungs and they had

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Speaker 3: what they called the typical glass opacities of COVID. And

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Speaker 3: then the COVID test came back positive and it deteriorated

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Speaker 3: really fast, and his family were told he had a

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Speaker 3: three percent chance of recovering. And that's when he went

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Speaker 3: into a coma. You know, they took him into the coma.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't natural. That's when he had these four different

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Speaker 3: instances of near death experiences. And the first one, he

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Speaker 3: found himself in this amazing hall and he's up on

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Speaker 3: a kind of mezzanine level, looking down at this hall

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Speaker 3: and this man standing next to him and saying, this

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00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: is my favorite room. And Randy's like, why this is

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Speaker 3: called the welcoming room. And then he turned to Randy

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00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: and said, but you're not supposed to be here. You

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Speaker 3: have to leave. So that's when Randy left that amazing

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Speaker 3: building and was in that incredible city where he went

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Speaker 3: up the stairway, and that happened twice. And he was

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Speaker 3: in that city and there was an incident where he

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Speaker 3: found himself on this dirt pathway and there was this

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Speaker 3: little boy there, maybe ten years old, just wearing shorts

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00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: and jumping around, and it's out in the woods, so

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Speaker 3: there's trees around them and these incredible plants, and the

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Speaker 3: boys like, come with me, Come with me. And he

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Speaker 3: takes him to this big house and they go inside

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Speaker 3: and there's this big window looking out over a river,

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Speaker 3: and there's all these people swimming and sitting on the

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Speaker 3: bank talking and the little boy says, I'll be back

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Speaker 3: in a minute, and so Randy's sitting there, he said,

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Speaker 3: in this red velvet chair looking out this window. Everything's

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Speaker 3: so nice. And then the boy comes back says, your

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Speaker 3: room's not ready. You've got to go back and around,

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Speaker 3: but I want to stay here. And the little boys,

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00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, your room's not ready. And he's kind of

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Speaker 3: sent into this space where he's coming back, and suddenly

524
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Speaker 3: this face appears, and it's this man with a mustache,

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Speaker 3: and he's saying, tell Madison at the salon, I'm okay.

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Speaker 3: Tell Madison at the salon, I'm okay. And then he

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Speaker 3: got this picture of this man on this white porch

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Speaker 3: outside the house with all these red, white and blue

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Speaker 3: ribbons and flags. The word veteran kept repeating in his head.

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Speaker 3: Came back and he had this miraculous recovery where over

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Speaker 3: the Easter weekend, from Easter Friday till Monday, he came

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Speaker 3: almost back and they could get him out of the coma,

533
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Speaker 3: take him off the intubation and the ventilator and all

534
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Speaker 3: the drugs. It's one of these things we hear, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Miraculous recoveries. So he's at home a few months later

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Speaker 3: and the COVID lockdown's starting to go. People are allowed out,

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00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: and he wants a haircut and he finds this business

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Speaker 3: card and gives it to his daughter and say, well,

539
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: you book me a haircut, and his daughter looks say,

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Speaker 3: he goes, Dad, this is Madison at the salon. It

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Speaker 3: says Madison on the card. So they booked the haircut

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Speaker 3: and he's sitting there with Madison and he starts telling

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Speaker 3: her about his experience and she starts crying, and from

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Speaker 3: his description, she said, that was my grandfather. He died

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Speaker 3: a year ago and his name was John. So Randy's saying,

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Speaker 3: I saw a white porch with these flags and the

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Speaker 3: word veteran, and she said, yeah, he's a veteran and

548
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: he was part of the association and every year he'd

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Speaker 3: to help out with the flags and he used to

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Speaker 3: love sitting on that white porch. It's like Madison's crying

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Speaker 3: and Randy's crying. She gives him her grandmother's number, and

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Speaker 3: Randy asked, Madison, are they round here? Could I have

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00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: seen him in the street and that's kind of where

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Speaker 3: it came from, but she said no, they lived a

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Speaker 3: thousand miles away. So he called Kathy, who was Madison's grandmother,

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Speaker 3: and talked to her about this guy John, and she

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00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: sent him a photograph and there he is, That's exactly him.

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Speaker 3: And they became friends. And it ended up Randy went

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Speaker 3: to the house and sat on that porch where John

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00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: would sit at the white porch, exactly as he'd seen

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Speaker 3: it in the near death experience. So Kathy says to Randy,

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Speaker 3: this isn't the first time John's tried to make contact.

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Speaker 3: She said. After John died, I was trying to find

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Speaker 3: out if he had life insurance and I found a

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Speaker 3: business card and it was for insurance guys. So I thought,

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Speaker 3: I'll try this and see what they say. And she

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Speaker 3: wrung it and the guy at the other end says, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm not in insurance. It was what number did you call?

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Speaker 3: And she read it out and he said, you got

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Speaker 3: the area code RA. I'm in California. And he says,

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Speaker 3: who are you And she says, well, I'm Kathy and

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Speaker 3: Idaho and he goes, you're Kathy and Idaho. I had

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Speaker 3: a crash on my motorbike like two weeks ago. It

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Speaker 3: was nasty, and there was this point I was floating

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Speaker 3: and looking down on my body and I heard this

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Speaker 3: voice shouting over and over, tell Kathy and Idaho, I'm okay.

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00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: Tell Kathy and Idaho, I'm okay. When the ambulance showed up.

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Speaker 3: He asked who else was with him, and they said, no,

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Speaker 3: there's nobody else here because he crashed out on a

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Speaker 3: country road. It wasn't in town. There were no buildings

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Speaker 3: around or anything, and so she'd had that contact from him.

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking about the chain of events there. It's

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Speaker 3: that she dialed a wrong number to get to this guy.

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Speaker 3: How did that happen? And also, if John was up

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Speaker 3: that accident two weeks before the phone call, John must

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Speaker 3: have known that Kathy would call him miss dial a

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Speaker 3: call to him two weeks later, John must have known

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Speaker 3: the future. Well maybe it was a thing where she

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Speaker 3: didn't miss dial, but John messed with the electronics and

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Speaker 3: made sure the call got through to that guy. So

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00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: I like that one, that type of verification, two different

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00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: things happening in there. So that's that's one of my

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00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: favorite stories.

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Speaker 1: And how do these business cards show up as well?

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00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: You know? Just yeah, who knows? It?

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Speaker 1: Filled me with goosebumps hearing that story. Just now I'm

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Speaker 1: Kathy and Idaho. There's such an intelligence from the other side.

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Speaker 1: But living as a human being, we have all these

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00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: fears and worries and what ifs, and we feel so alone.

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Speaker 1: But we aren't, are we no?

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Speaker 3: And that's something when I take people through a past

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Speaker 3: life regression, towards the end of it, we go into

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Speaker 3: the life between lives, and that's where we would hope

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00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: to encounter their spirit guide. Most of the time they

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00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: show up. Sometimes they don't. But one of the things

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00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: I asked them at the end when we ask the

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00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: spirit guides all sorts of questions about their past lives

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Speaker 3: and their current life, and I asked, towards the end

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Speaker 3: of that, is there anything else you feel this person

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00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: needs to know? And the spirit guides almost always say,

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00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: we're always with you, We're always on your side. All

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00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: you need to do is ask for help. They won't

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00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: help unless you ask for it. You know, it's something

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00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: to do with free will, So you're right there. I

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00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: get that from the spirit guides often, and it's interesting

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00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: that I do hundreds of sessions. Well, the people in

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00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: the session don't know each other, but it's this consistent

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00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: feedback that I get every time because the person is

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Speaker 3: hypnotized and in their minds, they're in that space with

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00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: their spirit guide and I asked the question and the

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Speaker 3: spirit guide tells them the answer. Then they relay it

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Speaker 3: back to me. It's not like I'm a medium or

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Speaker 3: psychic or something. The clients experiencing this all themselves just

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Speaker 3: goes to.

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Speaker 1: Show there's so much more tests than meets the eye.

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Speaker 1: What's the value for someone's life currently if they have

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Speaker 1: a past life regression that you found as a regression therapist, it.

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Speaker 3: Can be really insightful and it can be healing in

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Speaker 3: some ways. If that's what we are trying to do.

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Speaker 3: I'd say sixty or seventy percent of the people I

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00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 3: work with are looking for some therapy, and other people

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00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: come to me they just want to see what shows up.

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00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: It's just an exploration, and we see lives that are

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: so unexpected and unpredictable, but then they make perfect sense

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00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: in the way they relate to the current life. And

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00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: people might have something happening in their current life and

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00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: they see something in their past life and it's suddenly like, ah,

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00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 3: hang on, yeah, that makes perfect sense. I can see

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00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: how these lives are connected and how I'm experiencing this

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00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 3: thing here. There's also the therapy side of it, where

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00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: well towards the beginning of the session, we ask the

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00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: spirit guides to join us, and I'll say, please, take

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Speaker 3: us to the past life that is the origin point

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Speaker 3: of the current life issue, and so it might be

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Speaker 3: taken specifically to an event and see something happening. I

646
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: had a guy who had terrible pain in his stomach,

647
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: and he'd seen the doctors and they'd done all the tests.

648
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 3: They could find no reason why he would be in pain.

649
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: And I took him to a past life and he

650
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Speaker 3: was stabbed in his stomach. We saw that past life

651
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: and I do that this thing is like an energy release,

652
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: it's the kind of negative energy. And then we went

653
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 3: to another past life where he did something he felt

654
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: terribly guilty, and he said that that manifested in his

655
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: stomach this feeling. So after the session, a few weeks later,

656
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: he emailed me and said that pain in his stomach's

657
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: decreased by about fifty percent. He sits in front of

658
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: the TV poking himself in the belly because he can't

659
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: believe how much the pain has decreased. And there's a

660
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: woman who had exma on her leg. She didn't come

661
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: to me for anything to do with that, but we

662
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: saw a past life where she was a hunter in

663
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: a forest and she stepped in a bear trap, and

664
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Speaker 3: those big metal claws came up and grabbed her leg

665
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: and it's exactly the same place in this life where

666
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: the x ME is. And she was in her fifties

667
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: and she tried everything to get rid of it, and

668
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: she emailed me later and said, the x ME is

669
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: completely gone, and there was something happening there and I

670
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: don't quite know what it is. Techniques for breaking the

671
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: bond with the past life or releasing energy. We can

672
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: also ask the spirit guide for healing, but it seems

673
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: to work. It seems to be amazing. It's like everybody

674
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 3: processes it in a different way because we're all unique,

675
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: and so for some people it's really powerful and other

676
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: people it's just a little bit. And you know, I

677
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: don't want to say on here, I can heal you,

678
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: because it's just something that might be the way the

679
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: spirit guides want it to work, or just the way

680
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: you process it yourself, or something to do with energy,

681
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: and I just try and do my best with the

682
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 3: techniques that I've got.

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Speaker 1: Just another verification that we live in a very intelligent universe.

684
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: I know healing is possible, but I do think it's

685
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: a journey of self healing, and I don't doubt that

686
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: from beyond there's healing as well. Do we need to

687
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: be open to have a session for this? I would

688
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: think people that come to you have a little curiosities,

689
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: maybe a little skepticism, but they have to be open

690
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: to just at least try it.

691
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you need to engage with the process. There

692
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: are some people who've done it before. Other people will

693
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: meditate and something will spring up during their meditation that

694
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: makes them interested. I get the impression a lot of

695
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: times it's almost like the person's been guided to do

696
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: a past life regression, like their spirit guides are nudging

697
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: them because I want to show them something. But if

698
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: we go through the hypnotic induction, and you know, the

699
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: person will have to follow it, and it's me guiding

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00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: them through relaxation and visualization. And it's also a thing

701
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: where you've just got to accept what comes to you

702
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: because it comes up in your imagination. You can feel

703
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: like you're making it up.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more simon past life regressions

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Speaker 1: and spirit guides. You're listening to Shades the Afterlife on

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Heroinormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: and we're here with Simon Bown, author of the new

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Speaker 1: book Verified Near Death Experiences, Proof of an Afterlife. You

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Speaker 1: can visit his website Past Lives Hypnosis dot co dot uk.

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Speaker 1: Simon was just talking about past life regressions.

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Speaker 3: I get the impression a lot of times it's almost

713
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 3: like the person's been guided to do a past life regression,

714
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: like the spirit guides are nudging them because I want

715
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: to show them something that's we go through the hypnotic

716
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: induction and the person will have to follow it and

717
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 3: it's me guiding them through relaxation and visualization. And it's

718
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: also a thing where you've just got to accept what

719
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: comes to you because it comes up in your imagination.

720
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: You can feel like you're making it up, but then

721
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: the lives can be so healing, and so I'm unexpected.

722
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Speaker 3: And I record the whole session and send it to

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00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: the client so I can say, look, don't try and

724
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: do any analysis now, don't get logical. Just go with

725
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: the flow. You can listen to the recording later and

726
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: then you can do the analysis. And I think that's

727
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: what you've got to do. Just accept it and almost.

728
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Speaker 3: I suppose some people might have to see it as

729
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: entertainment and not think it's real. And we just see

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Speaker 3: how entertaining it is. And then I see them in

731
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: tears on the zoom call and it's like, after we finished,

732
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: I got out to my wife and she'll say, how'd

733
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Speaker 3: it go? And I said, I've made them cry? And

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Speaker 3: she say, yeah, excellent, willburn.

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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with tears, They're very healing. How long is

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Speaker 1: a session?

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Speaker 3: It's an hour?

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Speaker 1: Well that's it's not bad at all, is it? Yeahs

739
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: can be released. Oh my goodness, Simon, what is it

740
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: that gives you the greatest passion? Is it continuing to

741
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: study all of this? I know for myself I can

742
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: get caught up and just thinking a person and locked

743
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: into fears and worries. But no, sooner I interview somebody

744
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: for a podcast, or read a book or listen to

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00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: a podcast episode that it's like, ah, yes, there is

746
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: a bigger picture. Does this help you in your humanly journey?

747
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah it does. Yeah. It's that thing of hearing so

748
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: many life reviews and hearing how if you're mean to

749
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: somebody it can have such an effect. And also if

750
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Speaker 3: you're nice to someone and some people in the life

751
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: reviews say they see such trivial little things where they

752
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: might have been a little nice to someone, and the

753
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: spirit guides are so proud of that incident. And you

754
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: might think to your say, yeah, there's nothing, that's just

755
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: a little thing, but it really means something. So it

756
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: kind of makes you think about how you behave yourself

757
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: and how you treat people. Like nobody's perfect, and maybe

758
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: sometimes you'll do something, Oh man, that's coming back in

759
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: my life review, I shouldn't have done that, but yeah,

760
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: that is a definite thing. And also, you know, when

761
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: you're growing up, you have a fear of death if

762
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: you don't know about all this stuff, and so that

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00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: can be really hard. I've had emails from people who

764
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: say that for them it's such an impact on their

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00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: life and they lie awake at night thinking of death

766
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: and thinking it's just the end and there's nothing and

767
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: by hearing this information it really helps them. And I've

768
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: heard from people who are grieving who said that they

769
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: found these podcasts not just mine, but yours as well,

770
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: and they found this information is amazing and they might

771
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: be going to a group, say for grieving parents, and

772
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: if they bring up something spiritual the guy in charge

773
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: and say no, no, we don't talk about that sort

774
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: of thing here, And really that can be very helpful.

775
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what they should talk about as well as

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Speaker 3: everything else they do.

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Speaker 1: I always do a shout out to our friends at

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Speaker 1: Helping Parents Heal dot org. They have over twenty thousand members.

779
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: They call them Shining Light parents whose kids are in

780
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: the afterlife now and it is a grief organization that

781
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: also embraces the reality of the afterlife. So I love that. Simon.

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Speaker 1: You've mentioned a couple of times I've heard spirit guides,

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00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: spirit guides or spirit guides. Can we work with them

784
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Speaker 1: on a daily basis? Can we talk to them? Should

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00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: we talk to them?

786
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. Sometimes I might think about it

787
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: and make up a conversation in my mind with spirit guides,

788
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: with my spirit guide, and you get replies, but you

789
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: think yoursel I'm just imagining it. But then mediums will

790
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: say to you, no, that's sometimes how it comes. You've

791
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: got to trust the information that's coming back to you,

792
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: so you can ask them for help and then see

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: what comes out. It's very rare I would ask for help.

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00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: I've been through past life aggressions where I've encountered my

795
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: spirit guide, and one thing I find about them is

796
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: they tend to have a great sense of humor. And

797
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: when I encountered my spirit guide first time, they were

798
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: some way off and they were coming towards me, and

799
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: they were dancing, and they were walking like an Egyptian

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00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: and doing the macarena and all these sorts of things

801
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: that was coming towards me. And I found also that

802
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: they morph. They could be male and they're a good joker,

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00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: and then they might just morph in front of my

804
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: eyes into a woman and she's really serious, and so

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00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: if I see her show up, I'm like, I'm in

806
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: trouble now. It's a thing where they sometimes take control

807
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: of people as well when I'm in a session, and

808
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: it's not like a bad thing. So people hypnotized are

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00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: very relaxed, and they tend to talk really quietly, and

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00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: I've had a small number of sessions where suddenly their

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00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: voice is very strong and they talk about themselves in

812
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: the third person, and it sounds it's like the spirit

813
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: guide is talking about them and I'm asking them all

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Speaker 3: these questions, which I suppose is almost like some sort

815
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: of channeling or something. Yeah, I've asked the question as well.

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00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: When we're in that space with them, I say to

817
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 3: the client or the spirit guide, that can you tell

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00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: us how can we have a stronger connection to you?

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Speaker 3: How can this person communicate? And they almost always say meditation,

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00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: that's how to get a closer connection to their spirit guide.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's important to know male or female,

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00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: know a name, know what they look like. It's just

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Speaker 1: to trust. And there are so many moments and I'm

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00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: sure you've experienced them as well, that all of a

825
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: sudden much time has passed and you think, how did

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Speaker 1: that happen? You're kind of in the zone. And I

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Speaker 1: think they work with us, whether we ask them or not.

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Speaker 1: We've got these loved ones and friends that are by

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Speaker 1: our side. And I love the sense of humor because

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00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: I would think like minded souls hang out together. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: if they're with you and me, they have to be

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Speaker 1: able to have a bit of a sense of humor. Simon,

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Speaker 1: Can I ask what people can find at your website,

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Speaker 1: which is Past Lives Hypnosis dot co dot uk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a page on there that's about the book,

836
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: and you know a link to buy the book. They

837
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: can go on to my booking page where my calendar

838
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: is and book a free consultation like a twenty minute

839
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: zoom call free a charge, and we can talk about

840
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: past life regression and what they might want to achieve

841
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: during the session. And there's a lot of information on

842
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: there about past life regression. And then there's links to

843
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: my podcast as well, which is Our Paranormal Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: Which is wonderful because I'm left with I want to

845
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: hear more. I want to know about some of these guests.

846
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: I want to read the book, anything else you'd like

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00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: to share with us. They're time together.

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Speaker 3: I think that we're all on a spiritual path and

849
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: that sometimes we get nudges and maybe we should keep

850
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: our eyes open for little signs and things and not

851
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: just write them off. Because I can tell you a

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00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: little story about that. What happened to me. I was

853
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: interviewing a woman on my podcast who's written a book

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00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: about angels and me is not being religious, never being religious.

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00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: To me, angels is a religious thing, and there's you know,

856
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: big white gowns and big feathers and wings, and she

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Speaker 3: was saying, you know when they're around, because they'll give

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Speaker 3: you a feather or leave you a feather. And the

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Speaker 3: next day, I'm walking down the street and this white

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00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: feather just drifts out the air right in front of me,

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Speaker 3: and so I'm thinking about what she said, and I

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00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: kind of wrote it off. And a few weeks later,

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00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: I'm talking to a woman who's a medium and we'd

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Speaker 3: finish the recording of the episode and I was talking

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Speaker 3: to her and told her about this thing with the

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Speaker 3: feather and she's like, oh, yeah, yeah, pay attention to

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Speaker 3: the feathers. If they show up, that's a sign. We

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00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 3: finished the call and I went to see my teenage

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Speaker 3: daughter in her room and she's very, very tidy and

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00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: not like most teenagers I imagine, and there in the

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Speaker 3: middle of her empty floor was a feather. And it's like, well,

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00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: where did that come from? And just as I'm talking

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Speaker 3: to a medium about feathers showing up and it's a sign,

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00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: a feather shows up. And I said to my daughter,

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Speaker 3: where did that feather come from? And she looks down

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Speaker 3: from her laptop. I was like, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: and then goes back to what she's doing. So then

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Speaker 3: months later, I visit a medium and we're sitting opposite

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Speaker 3: each other in these big comfortable chairs and it's very

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00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: queen and she does this hour long mediumship and she's

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00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: really good. And we finished that and then I said

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Speaker 3: to her, you know, I had this thing with feathers

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00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: a couple of times, and I explained what was happening,

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Speaker 3: and she said, look at the floor, and then in

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00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: between us, there's a feather on the floor. And that

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00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: wasn't there the whole hour she was doing the mediumship.

887
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: Neither of us got up and went anywhere. And for me,

888
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: it was quite a shock, and it's almost like this

889
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 3: does not compute. My brain came to a dead stop

890
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: that feather had been teleported in or something, because I

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00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: just don't know where it came from. And again it's

892
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: the coincidence or the synchronicity that just when you're talking

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Speaker 3: about feathers showing up in a weird way, a feather

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00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: shows up in a weird way. It's too much of

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Speaker 3: a coincidence, and so you feel like that this is

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00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: a sign the spirit guides or the angels are trying

897
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: to give you a sign. But then it's a sign

898
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: of what what are they trying to tell me? And

899
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: I wonder if they did the first couple of feathers

900
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: and they're getting frustrated, and what do we have to

901
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 3: do to get through to this guy? You know, finally

902
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: they had to teleport one in some obvious place.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Well, they can teleport feathers, they can

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Speaker 1: teleport business cards with Madison and Salon and all those

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Speaker 1: kind of things. You just never know and be open.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned meditation and our imagination and things. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why, Simon, so many people think our imagination

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00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: means we made something up. I think that's the access

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00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: way that our loved ones come through in medium readings

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00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: and even messages from our guides can sound like our

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00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: own voice.

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Speaker 3: But just to trust that that's.

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Speaker 1: A communication center and be open to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think the daydreaming as well. I

915
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: think there's the point where you may be doing something

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Speaker 3: that you do all the time. It might be having

917
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: a shower, it might be cleaning the dishes, and you

918
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: can do it on automatic, and your brain's just daydreaming

919
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: and going off. And I feel like sometimes that can

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00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: be an open channel to communication.

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Speaker 1: It be like meditation with your eyes open, being in

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Speaker 1: the zone, being in the present moment. Well, Simon, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being our guest today.

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Speaker 3: It's been great. I've really enjoyed talking to you, and

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Speaker 3: I love telling these stories and.

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Speaker 1: We love hearing them. Albert Einstein is well known for

927
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Speaker 1: his quote about imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge,

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Speaker 1: for knowledge is limited. Whereas imagination embraces the entire world,

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Speaker 1: stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution, it may even stimulate

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Speaker 1: beyond the earth, is what I say. Don't forget to

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Speaker 1: Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included all atweedotdie dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to

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