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Speaker 3: I am in my house. Where are you at? Well?

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Speaker 2: I'm still cold. That was like four hours ago.

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Speaker 4: Well we are. We're back on Talking to Day.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to jumpstart the episodes post up in Vanish,

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Speaker 1: which we'll come back to that same formula in June

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Speaker 1: when the next eight episodes come out. But today's guest

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Speaker 1: Joe Gatto is his name, And to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: He like, I should have had cupcakes for him, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, regifting is isn't bad.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that. You can't do that. No prechewed cupcakes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's called Roxy Hotel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sal m or instantly you know mar is the

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Speaker 2: they're doing. But then when you sit down and look

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00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 2: at it's like, oh, my friends like that. Oh I

438
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,240
Speaker 2: know a sal I know, you know, and it really

439
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 2: is a different thing. You just have to give it its time.

440
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 2: So I think that's really a big part of it

441
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,679
Speaker 2: was just do what you love and just don't worry

442
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 2: about like how you're gonna get there. Just get there.

443
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,920
Speaker 1: Do you think part of your drive in the early

444
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 1: days was just if I can do what I love

445
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,439
Speaker 1: and be sustainable, then that's all I want.

446
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, in the beginning, it wasn't for money, right,

447
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 2: Zoe's the job, you know, that's the Yeah. So when

448
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 2: I had to make the decision of look, I'm leaving this,

449
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 2: I built this career for over. You know. I was

450
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 2: with that company for eight years. I worked my way

451
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 2: into the corporate position. I had a four to one k.

452
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 2: Like it was like, well you can do this, to

453
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 2: go take a chance on a thing that's going to fail.

454
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 2: The numbers say it's going statistically, statistically it's failing. Yeah,

455
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 2: you know, there's no way you're on this small network.

456
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 2: In between two tow truck shows, by the way, we were,

457
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: but after Lizard Lick Towing, before South Beach Tow we

458
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,719
Speaker 2: were at the comedy show on the tow truck Network,

459
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 2: swear to God. So we're like, it's like, this is

460
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 2: there's no way this is going to work. And I

461
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 2: was like, I was like, you're gonna give it a shot. Yeah,

462
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 2: So I think that's I think that's part of it. It

463
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 2: was really just like, hmm, all right, it's time to

464
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 2: give it a shot. And if it doesn't I'll recover,

465
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 2: you know, and if I make a move and if

466
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't work, I'll make a move back, you know.

467
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 4: So you wanted the risk, you were willing to take

468
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 4: the risk.

469
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, you know, and everything is a risk because

470
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: you get fired from your job tomorrow, I tell you

471
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like, what is that?

472
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 2: What did that job? That that company could have went

473
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 2: under the next day and I'd be a square one anyway.

474
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's part of it.

475
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, cause you mentioned that you always

476
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: knew that you liked to make people laugh? For sure,

477
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: what's the earliest memory you have of I mean, were

478
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: you always were you that kid? Were the class clown?

479
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: Were you, you know, when you were five years old?

480
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 1: Were you making your parents laugh?

481
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 3: Or you?

482
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 4: Like? What is like the the youngest version of you

483
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 4: where you were that funny guy in.

484
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 2: Easter Sunday nineteen eighty six, Staten Island, the bell Avita

485
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: two cafe. Me my family are in this Italian, big

486
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,719
Speaker 2: Italian restaurant having our early lunch Sunday dinner. We're hanging out.

487
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm with my sister. At that point, she's thirteen years old,

488
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm ten. We hate each other. Now she's my best friend.

489
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: I love Okay, we're in Back in the day you

490
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: were able to smoke in restaurants. My parents were smokers

491
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: the good days. Yes they were good days. Now they

492
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 2: were ruined with health. So there was a It was

493
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: so weird. They put you behind this glass door. So

494
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: you're in a cased room where I feel like the

495
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: cancer just amplified itself. The kids were getting catch it,

496
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: so you had to open a door to walk out.

497
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 2: So I'm walking out and were going down. I had

498
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom. My dad sends my sister

499
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: with me. We're walking through this packed restaurant in Staten Island.

500
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 2: I missed a step. I fall smack hit hard record

501
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: scratch moment the place. Oh like one of those hits, right,

502
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 2: So I sit down. My sister above me goes ha ha,

503
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 2: like laughing at me, and I remember just jumping up

504
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: and going tada, and the whole place lost it and

505
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: they started clapping. And I looked at my sister and

506
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: I flipped her off, and I was like, oh, I

507
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: can make people laugh and that was fun. I remember

508
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: that moment, and I've really also that helped tweak my

509
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: shame Jean, where I'm not really get embarrassed easy or

510
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: anything anymore. You know, who cares what people are thinking

511
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: as long as I'm I like what I'm doing and

512
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: I'm happy about it. So at that moment for me

513
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: was like a moment in life that definitely changed my brain.

514
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean kind of hearing that moment, I see

515
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities in your humor as a comedian

516
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: today and all the stunts and stuff you did in

517
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: Physical Gopal Jokers, you like, in a split second just

518
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: said gotcha right and just embraced it, versus being like,

519
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: oh no, when I've like I've seen I mean, I

520
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: don't even know how many episodes there are of impactal

521
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm on, you even know, I'm like three hundred of them?

522
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, three million?

523
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and nine and a half seasons I did, so

524
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 2: I was like, it was like three hundred episodes almost.

525
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were always my favorite to watch because and

526
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean this genuinely, and I would even point out

527
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: to my friends. I was even telling, you know, this

528
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: is Mike and Dylan, their producers with me at Tenderfoot,

529
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is actually my favorite, uh

530
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: of the Impractical Jokers in terms of the skits that

531
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: they do, because I feel like he can convince any

532
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: one of anything salesman. Yeah, and just just the confidence

533
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: level that you exude. It's like, if you keep pushing

534
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: it further, even when you think internally there's no way

535
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: they're going to buy this, that almost becomes crazier than

536
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: it being fake.

537
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember it like I remember early on

538
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: when we were like, these people aren't gonna believe this,

539
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: and then I remember I was like, you know what,

540
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: they will if we make it the reality. And we

541
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: just did this whole thing where it was like it

542
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: was all really a social experiment thing in the beginning.

543
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: So then I remember there was just one challenge that

544
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: we had on paper, and it took us a while

545
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: to try it. We had it on paper, like we

546
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to work, and I think it's work.

547
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: We forgot about it, and then seasons later are like,

548
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: what about that one? Because we've been in the public enough,

549
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 2: we figured it out. We're like, oh, yeah, to work.

550
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: So it was when we were we played janitors in

551
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: a supermarket and we had to convince people to make

552
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: a mess because we were up for our we couldn't

553
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: leave for our break until a mess was cleaned up.

554
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: So we had to talk people into spilling gallons of

555
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: milk or breaking eggs or whatever. So I remember there

556
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: was this one woman and it was my turn, and

557
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: I went first that day, and I was like, I

558
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: was like, uh, And they gave you the sentence to

559
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: say of why you had to do it, And the

560
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: sense I gave me was, come on, shorty, do the naughty.

561
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: And that's what I had to say to this woman. Right.

562
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: So I go to this woman. I go, hey, I

563
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: have the mop I look very believable. I have a

564
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: security like vesta. I have like a moping bucket. Why

565
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: else would this guy be. I'm in the middle of that.

566
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: There's nobody else around us. So this woman walks over

567
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: and she's looking. I said, listen, you gotta do me

568
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: a solid shorty, and they all of a sudden they

569
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: stopped laughing and she's like what. I was like, listen,

570
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: I gotta do the naughty and I need you to

571
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: do a naughty for me so I could get out

572
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: of here. And I was like, she's like, what are

573
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: you talking about. I said, just drop this gallon of

574
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: milk for me, and if you do it, I get

575
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: to go on my break. And she's like really, and

576
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: like she looked at me soon, and I'm like, you

577
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: got to help me on. Please help me out, shorty,

578
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: and she goes, okay, I'll do the naughty and I said, okay,

579
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: well look this what I need to do, and she goes,

580
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: I got it. She figures it out on herself. She

581
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: picks up the guy on the milk and goes, oh,

582
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: drops it and it makes a big splash and we erupted.

583
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I cannot believe that worked. And it was

584
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: so easy. It was so easy at that point because

585
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: people want to help people. People like when you're out

586
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: there like you feel it, and when you feel that,

587
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: like as terrible as the world could be, sometimes when

588
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: you're on a human level talking to somebody and you

589
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 2: put it out there, people like, sure, I'm really dead

590
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: for it. So we just meet. We tore apart that

591
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: super market for the next half hour. It was unbelievable.

592
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: So I remember seeing things like that and being like, oh,

593
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: you have to sell it. You have to really get

594
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: into it. And people didn't see on TV a lot

595
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: we always got in the beginning this is planned. People

596
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: know them, blah blah blah, and it's like, no, people didn't.

597
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: And the way pop that's just so serious. It is

598
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: all that stuff. It's like they knew this guy was

599
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: on this episode blah blah blah. But it was the

600
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: big thing was for us is that we would talk

601
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: to people for ten minutes on that park bench normally

602
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: before we started being weird of course, so like it

603
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: was always like you because you wanted also then to

604
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: be a good person for the show, so you had

605
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: to feel them out. Are they gonna be a person

606
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: that's going to give you Comedy're they're gonna be somebody

607
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: to be like, ah, clam up and walk away exactly.

608
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: So that was a that was a big thing, and

609
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: we don't always took risks with that stuff. One of

610
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: my favorite moments that ed did it on the show.

611
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: Was when they gave me a punishment where they gave

612
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: me sunscreen. They said you have to get sunscreen from

613
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: top to bottom by strangers in the park. That was it,

614
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: just how strangers rubbed me. I was like, okay, fine,

615
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: we'll do it. So we go out there and as

616
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: we start this, I'm sitting there in the park. We

617
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: just get set up. I'm by myself. I'm in a thong,

618
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: I think, and I'm hanging out there and here comes

619
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: this kid that goes to NYU comes flying over. He's like, Joe,

620
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan. I was like, I was like,

621
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: hey man, could you get my back just to him

622
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: and knowing he's a fan, and in my ear, so goes, oh,

623
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: you know what if you get him to empty the

624
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: whole thing and do your whole body, this would be hysterical.

625
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: But you can't let him know where film and I

626
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: said okay, So we start working it out in real

627
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: time like that. I'm like this what I'm gonna do.

628
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make this kid do it the whole time.

629
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: So like that, and then we figured it out. Okay,

630
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: but it all happened so fast that our producers don't

631
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: even realize it. One of our producers comes over to

632
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: get rid of the person. Yeah, and it's Pete McPartland,

633
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: who's he's been on the show a bunch, yeah, yeah,

634
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: and he was our showrunner and he's a great guy.

635
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: And Pete comes over to be like, hey, excuse me,

636
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: and Pete doesn't hasn't heard because he's off Walkie, hasn't

637
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: heard me make the call. So I go to Pete, no, hey, buddy,

638
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: good to see you. And Pete picks up on it

639
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: because he knows me, and he goes, hey, man. I

640
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, good, I'll see you back at

641
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: the office and he walks away.

642
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: This is often.

643
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Then the kid goes, oh, wait, Pete's here. I go, yeah,

644
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: office is right there. I'm right here on break right now.

645
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: And he goes and I know, I see it's coming.

646
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: And he goes no, and he's like no, And I

647
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: took out the earpiece and I put it under my leg.

648
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: I go, yeah, I'm just hanging out in the park

649
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: at in ten. He goes no, and he goes to

650
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: look at my ear and the earpiece is out. I go, yeah,

651
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm not and he goes, oh really, and I'm like, oh, so,

652
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 2: where are you from? And then I put it back

653
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: in and now we're off to the races. And this kid,

654
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: for the next forty five minutes put put sunscreen on

655
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: me from head to toe, doing my in the thigh

656
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: as I'm talking to him about his major and he

657
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: just kept and I had to keep convincing him that

658
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: he's not on the show, right, And it was one

659
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: of the best moments. But those are the kind of

660
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: things that you were able to do when you got

661
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: to talk to people and immerse yourself in this weird

662
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: reality and people just came along for the ride.

663
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 3: Man.

664
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: It was really really cool. That's one of my favorite

665
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: things that ever happened.

666
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Those are like very interesting micro micro infranced, micro in

667
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: sinces that happened that built up to the end result

668
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: that you see, because there's no we could ever pack

669
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: all that into a thirty minute show.

670
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: But that was a six minute thing on TV and

671
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: it was it was yr day. It was an hour

672
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: and a half.

673
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: That was the day.

674
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. So you have gone on tour,

675
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: You've hit all fifty states.

676
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: All fifty perform live comedy in all fifty states. Okay,

677
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: so I was a bucket listing for me last and

678
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: I hit it last year. I finished in Fargo, North Dakota.

679
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: That was my last show.

680
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: That's actually a cool place to end it.

681
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cool. It's cool. Two shows. It was great.

682
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: Tell me why you wanted to hit all fifty states

683
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: as a stand up comedian.

684
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Well, I was close with the guys. We almost I

685
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: had done forty four. I was missing six states and

686
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, come on, I can't be at

687
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: this school. So and then I started torn solo and

688
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, let me. I talked

689
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: to my agent. I said this six states I haven't

690
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: been to. Let's see if we could put it together.

691
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: And he started putting it together. One of them was

692
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: I was going through some stuff personally and I was

693
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: taking a break with my wife and I was working

694
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: all that out and I would never been Alaska. So

695
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: I was also took like a trip to be like,

696
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just going to Alaska. And as

697
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: I was going to Alaska, my agent COLLI, He's like, hey,

698
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: He's like, this is weird. We got to offer from

699
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: the comedy club for you to do a show in Alaska.

700
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna be an Anchorage.

701
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: He's like. I was like, could they do it? Then

702
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: he said yeah, So I got to perform in Anchorage.

703
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: I spent four days in Anchorage or really cool. And

704
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: then I was like, oh, now I got to do it.

705
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: I had already done Hawaii, I said, did Alaska? The

706
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: rest is here. I was like, come on, we got

707
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: to hit all these. So I ended up doing Montana,

708
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Wyoming and North Dakota's my last one. And then I

709
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: ended up doing North Dakota and that was my fiftieth one.

710
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: And it was really just a cool thing to be

711
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: like immersed with the people in these towns that don't

712
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: really get big comedy acts that come through sometimes and

713
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: just make people laugh. So that was really fun.

714
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: I mean, that's badass.

715
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Oh thanks man, thank you.

716
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: Also, Anchorage, we've so the next season of my true

717
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: crime show Called Up and Vanished about Missing persons cases,

718
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: takes place in Alaska.

719
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: Actually comes down a couple of weeks.

720
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh so we spent I mean almost the better part

721
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: of a year going back and forth to Anchorage the

722
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: other that's a heck of a trek. So, but say, like,

723
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: can we talk about how far away Alaska really is.

724
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: You don't realize it's like eight hours first in Russia.

725
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's insane.

726
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe because they were like, oh, you're gonna

727
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: go to Juno because you know that's way closer to Seattle.

728
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: And I was like no, I said, I had my

729
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: heart's going to Anchorage. You're like, oh, that's that's up there,

730
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: and then you look on a map. I'm like, it's

731
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: not up there, it's up and over there. It's crazy.

732
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: It's Santa Claus. I know it really is. And I

733
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: was almost one of those messing people and anchory I got.

734
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: I went walking around. I put one of the best

735
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: stunts ever on my sisters, like I'm really tight with

736
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: my sister. And they were really nervous that I was

737
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: going to Anchorage by myself because they worry about me,

738
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: the two older Italian sisters, and they're like, share your location.

739
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gonna come to Anchorage and get me.

740
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: Like if I get lost, it'll take too long, I'll

741
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: be missing. I'll be gone. So they had this animal rescue.

742
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm being an animal rescue and they have this animal

743
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: sanctuary out there in anchorage and I was like, oh,

744
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: I go check out this animal sanctuary. And they had

745
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: all these it was a great way to see all

746
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: the animals, you know, moose and and and they had

747
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: these bears and they had this bearing closure. But the

748
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: the bear and closure was was there was a you

749
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: drove through this like big preserve, which was amazing. It

750
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: was like hundreds of acres and the way it situated,

751
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: the parking lot was lower than the mountain that the

752
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: bears were on, so I don't know, it was weird.

753
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: But there was these big fences so you were stopping

754
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: from them. So I stood on the hood of my

755
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: car and I did a selfie video and it looked

756
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: like I was just out in the wild and I

757
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: was like, and I'm just I'm ignoring this bear that's

758
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: over my shoulder. And I go, hey, I'm just telling

759
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: you how gorgeous Alaska's And I said a selfievideer and

760
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: my sister I'm like, it's so I was like, oh

761
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: shit was And then I stopped recording and I said,

762
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: I said it to my sisters right like, and then

763
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: it starts and lingering, what up, Joe, Oh my god,

764
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: there's a bear behond you like I didn't see it right,

765
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: so that I'm hysterical laughing, and I let it sit

766
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: for a good two three minutes. I'm like, I camp

767
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: fit too long because I got too nervous. Yeah, and

768
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: then I get I dropped down and I take a

769
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: picture a selfie with the fence and the bear behind me,

770
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: going gotcha whatever, And they cursed me out so bad.

771
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: When I came back home, I said to hit me.

772
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: She's like, what are you doing? Tell you get eaten

773
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: by bear? Like, first of all, look at me, I'm

774
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: not going anywhere close to bears. Yeah. I'm not built

775
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: for that.

776
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. I'll be the first to go. Yeah.

777
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was, but it was crazy, Like the

778
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: bald eagles up there are like pigeons. They're all over

779
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: the place. It's so nuts.

780
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: They're also I saw the biggest birds like wait were they?

781
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Like?

782
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: Were they crows? The crows are the size that I

783
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: have small people. Yeah up there.

784
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they steal children.

785
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: They still have kids, like hey, yeah that yeah, they

786
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: steal babies, like out of the baby, just like it's

787
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: not a joke.

788
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, how many siblings do you have?

789
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: I have two older sisters Okay, I'm the youngest brother. Okay,

790
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: that's actually my sister right here. Ah, there you go,

791
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: older and younger younger. Okay, I got a big bro.

792
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: That's nice. Yeah, I have I wanted I have two kids,

793
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: and I wanted a girl first because I like having

794
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: an older sister. I think it. I think it changed

795
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: in a different way to think and understand the uh

796
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: species that is woman. But yeah, for real, right or

797
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: we be because we're cave that's And then also I

798
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: think also it helps you with like with your social

799
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: to see your sister's friends and like get mixed into

800
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: with older girls instead of younger girls. I feel like

801
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: you understand, like because they mature quicker, and I think

802
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: it helps raise you a little bit. So it's nothing.

803
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm clearly the I'm the exemplary mature guy.

804
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: But you know, just like I think it helps the

805
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: way you think. So I really wanted to girl first,

806
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: and I think later in life it's nice to have,

807
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: you know, an older sister, like a mom figure to

808
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: help you out. So but also bro's cool too because

809
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: they get kicked but if you need him to, right right, Yeah, yeah,

810
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: But I think my I think my son's gonna be

811
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: way bigger than my daughter. My son is like my

812
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: dad was six three, uh, and I'm not. I'm like

813
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: five ten. And then my wife just took my son

814
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: to the doctor. I said, oh, he's gonna be like

815
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: six three six four. I'm like, so he's gonna be

816
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: the big little brother, he's gonna be the monster.

817
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they're usually right because I have a I'm

818
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: the oldest, I have two younger sisters and a younger brother.

819
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm seven years older than him. And at one point

820
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: the doctor when he was like ten, he's like, he's

821
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: gonna be tall than You're.

822
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: Like, Noah are tall and he is stupid, like he's

823
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: still my little brother.

824
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: That's funny.

825
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: What excites you day to day these days?

826
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: Like what? Like?

827
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: What is you seem like someone who is good at

828
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: driving yourself? But we all go through, you know, our

829
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: own mental states and peaks and valleys. But you know,

830
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: what is your thing that keeps you motivated to to

831
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: keep working as hard as you do because you you

832
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: do so much and you do so well at it?

833
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: What does that come?

834
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: Where does that come from? I mean part of it

835
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: is really I'm a results driven kind of guy. So

836
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: if I give myself like a goal to like do something,

837
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: I think that's part of it. It's like, okay, I

838
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: want to like so I sid her I left the show.

839
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I can't do this now, but

840
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: I still need to put food on the table, take

841
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: care of my family. I live to make people laugh,

842
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: So what can I do here? And and I was

843
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: like okay. So I talked to my team and my

844
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: agent was like, he's like, you know, you could you

845
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: stand up and perform and live your whole life just

846
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: you got to learn that art. And I was like, oh,

847
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: all right, so I'll do this now. So I started

848
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: that and I quickly learned. You know, I had never

849
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: been on stage by myself, so that was a big

850
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: thing for me to be like, okay, So I think

851
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: the challenge of like, Okay, how do I put something

852
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: that I'm proud of out there, not just a money grab.

853
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: I didn't want to just be like, come out and

854
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: see Joe and I'll tell you stories about jokers Like

855
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: That's not what I wanted to do. And I want

856
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: to do a Q and A. I wanted to have

857
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: original content that you're going to laugh at and get

858
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: to know me more. The benefit of that was that

859
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: people saw me as me on the TV show, So

860
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: if you came to see me, you came to see

861
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: the guy you knew.

862
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: So that was a wink, it's right, yeah, yeah, you

863
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: get acknowledge that.

864
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I do your product right yeaheah. But also

865
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: a lot of my stories doing you know, they're my

866
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: best friends still are you know? I know them thirty

867
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: plus years. I have plenty of stories to share, so

868
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: I have stuff to talk about, so I talk about

869
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: that too. But I also wanted to enhance it with

870
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: you know, my perspective on things, and then also more

871
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: about me being a parent, or you know, my dog

872
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: adoption craziness, or you know, my growing up with a

873
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: crazy Italian mother in Staten Island. You know, all these

874
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: things which really formed me. So I figured out what

875
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: I wanted my night a comedy to be. But most

876
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: of all, it was going through a time when I

877
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: was going through some shit. The world has been going

878
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: through a bunch of shit. I was like, how can

879
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: we just forget about all that for a minute, hang

880
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: out and laugh for an hour and a half. So

881
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 2: that's really what I was like, Okay, that's my goal.

882
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Put something together that people are just going to be

883
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: in these four walls for ninety minutes and have fun.

884
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: So that's what I tried to build, and I was happy.

885
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm happy with what has happened and people have definitely

886
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: taken to it and it's been it's been great. So

887
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: I think when I'm like I want to do something,

888
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm like, this is what I want to do.

889
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: So I try to do that at the beginning of

890
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: every year, to be like, let's do that this year.

891
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: So so you see your results driven a results driven

892
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: and so what if you know this year I'm going

893
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: to do this.

894
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: You get to the end of the year and you

895
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: haven't done that yet. Are you one of those people

896
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: who just keeps going until you get it? Or do

897
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: you pivot or does it drive you crazy?

898
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: Do you get all? Is it your tip or what

899
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: is it? Right?

900
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

901
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty self analytical to where I'll I'll dissect

902
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 2: to why it didn't happen where a lot of people

903
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: are like, oh, it didn't happen whole home, but I'll

904
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: be like, why what could I have done different? Or yesh,

905
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: literally literally why I did not have what did I

906
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: do wrong? What did I do right? What could I do?

907
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: You know? So a lot of fun because over the

908
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: last couple of years have been my personal life and

909
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: try to get that stuff back on track, which I'm

910
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: proud of what I was able to accomplish there. So

911
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: then now I'm figuring, Okay, now the next professional thing.

912
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: What did I want to do and all that. So,

913
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I had written during COVID, I had written

914
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: a kid's book, and I was like, I want to

915
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: get this published. I want to be I love kids books.

916
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: I've been doing kids books for a while.

917
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: Why do you want to do this?

918
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: Because I had a fun story with my son and

919
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: I was like, it'd be really cool to immortalize this

920
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: with my son.

921
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah about it.

922
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: It's called Where's Barry? Where he lost one of his

923
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: stuffies one night and he couldn't get a shit together

924
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: and he was getting totally overwhelmed by it and we

925
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: went on a hunt for it, and I just made

926
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: the story into like a thing and it's a play

927
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: on Where's Larry because I've always looking for Larry. We

928
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: named it Barry. So it was like, you know, kind

929
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: of fun like that, and I was like you know,

930
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: this is a cool story, and I was like, you

931
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: know what, I want to I want to be that

932
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: for families because I read to my kids. I love that.

933
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: I think that's super cool. I was like, to be

934
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: that book, to be a book in somebody's house. It's

935
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: a different way for me, me to be part of

936
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: a household. And I was always driven by that because

937
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: I lost my dad when I was nineteen. He always

938
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: watched TV and stuff together. We watched Home Improvement with

939
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: Tim Allen, the first comedy special Life. It's always Tim Allen.

940
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: That is amazing, you know, and my dad introduced and

941
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: we laugh together. And that's some of the memories I

942
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: have my father that I love. So now when I

943
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: meet families that I'm multi generational, being like we watch

944
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: your show together, I'm like, this is awesome, like to

945
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: be part of that. So that always resonated with me,

946
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: so that I think it becomes a lot is I'm

947
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: really focused on legacy. I'm really focused on how to

948
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: bring joy in the world that needs it, you know,

949
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: or people that need to laugh to help themselves. So

950
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: that really drives me a lot, I think, is I

951
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: always keep that in the back of my mind. Like,

952
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: what can I do to keep providing that?

953
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: How did the loss of your dad at nineteen impact

954
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: your drive and your growth from that point forward.

955
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, I would say, I will

956
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: say my dad, And you don't know. It's funny because

957
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: you don't know about this when you think about this,

958
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: When you think about your parents, A lot of people

959
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: are romanticize the way people perceive them, right, like you

960
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 2: always think like or you're not a lot some people

961
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: have bad experience with their parents, and people have good,

962
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: but the people have good ones. I think sometimes it's

963
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: always like you think there was all like roses and

964
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: everything all the time, you know. And then with my dad,

965
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: I always thought that. And then after he had passed,

966
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: and the more I talk to people in his world,

967
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: I realized that genuinely was true. My father was not

968
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: not liked by anyone. He was, but he didn't try.

969
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: He was just genuinely himself and just a nice guy.

970
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: He's like one of those nice guys that provided for

971
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: his family, liked being a dad, like that was his thing,

972
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, Like he was. He was a He

973
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: was a vice president of a insurance sales company. They

974
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: offered him the presidency twice. He said no both times

975
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: because we had to travel. He didn't want to leave

976
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: his kids, which is which is a lesson I learned

977
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: the hard way. Yeah, super respectable. Didn't chase the dollar,

978
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: you know, chase the life. And I was like, you know,

979
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: so that was a cool thing to be to line

980
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: up the stars on that with him. But then it

981
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: was like, you know he when I lost him, I

982
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: was like, ah, I was like, oh, I want to

983
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: be like him. And that's always when I raise my kids,

984
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Like when I go, I'm very very like about your mortality.

985
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: When you lose your parents young, you're like very aware

986
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: of it from that moment on. You're like, I'm going

987
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: to die someday, you know. I see, Like do you

988
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: know that as a fact? You don't forget that, right?

989
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: So what your kids, I feel like it raises you,

990
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: makes you raise your kids in a different way. I

991
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: want to have impact as much as I can with

992
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: that stuff, and so I think that really is a

993
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: way that it helps me. It's like makes me be

994
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: a dad who likes to make memories and things that

995
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: could visit and keep me alive in their mind, the

996
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: same way I do with my dad. I feel like

997
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: my dad. I feel like I lost my dad yesterday

998
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: because I always am thinking about him doing that.

999
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like like you as you've gotten

1000
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: older and going through different hard ghips and tribulations that

1001
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: you continue to have like uh connections like oh, that

1002
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: that's what my dad would probably do, right, like did

1003
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: it never stop?

1004
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: I'll find myself some points that I want to do

1005
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: something like I get it now? Yeah, yeah, like that,

1006
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: you know, I believe that things like that. But my

1007
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: dad like like my dad was one of those dads

1008
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: that like he loved playing video games. We played Nintendo together,

1009
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: and now I'm playing the Switch with my son and

1010
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is so awesome, Like to do that

1011
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: kind that's amazing now. Yeah. So it's like little things

1012
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: like that where you get the thing. But I think

1013
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: that the most important thing is like you get what

1014
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: it means to make memories with your kids. For me,

1015
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: that was the biggest thing in it. So as soon

1016
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: as I had kids, it was like, all right, how

1017
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: do we make memories together? And now I'm super aware

1018
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: of that, and uh, I wasn't very aware of that

1019
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: in the beginning. I was still learning how to be

1020
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: a parent, how to be a partner and all that,

1021
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: and it just took me some time to figure that

1022
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: part out.

1023
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's talk about making memories. I mean people to

1024
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: say that that's like a you know, it's.

1025
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: Like an idiom almost.

1026
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: But what is making memories mean to you?

1027
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: The number one thing I do is my kids asked

1028
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: me to play. I stop what I'm doing and I

1029
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: play with them. Really cal we play, yes, okay whenever

1030
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: whatever I'm doing. Good?

1031
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 4: Wait, what do you guys play?

1032
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: Will you play? I was a very geeky child, and

1033
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: I know what. I had a very I know, crazy

1034
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: but I was like I was like on the math team,

1035
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: I was an athlete. Like yeah, like that, I so

1036
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: I did. I did like a lot of creative My

1037
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: first foray into creativity was creative writing. I wrote short stories.

1038
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: I used to get my parents and needs to read them,

1039
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: and they were actually pretty good. And my parents always

1040
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: were like, oh, this, you should do this, this is

1041
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: great and always encourage that, right, And it made me

1042
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: actually tell a lot of short stories. And I started

1043
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: playing this game in my neighborhood with my friends called

1044
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: adventure games, where I would narrate a whimsical tale of

1045
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: something imagine like a Willow or a Lord of the Rings,

1046
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: where we're fighting theselves and everything was in our minds

1047
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: and I would just narrate these stories and we did

1048
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: that for a full summer. It was one of my

1049
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: favorite things. So now with my kids, they'll say to

1050
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: these things like let's play Pirates. Like I remember this

1051
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: very vividly. My daughter goes, let's play Pirates. She's four

1052
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: years old. I said, sure, let's play Pirates. I don't

1053
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: know how to play pirates. She doesn't know how to

1054
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: play pirates. We're gonna play Pirates. But to find out,

1055
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: I was like, well, this looks like a boat. We

1056
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: helped on this show. I said, this is a boat.

1057
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Come on, we're on a boat. And then I got

1058
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: some of our stuffed animals. I'm like, there's the bad guys.

1059
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: We have to get them, and here's a treasure map whatever.

1060
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: And I remember like my daughter like I just started

1061
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: to take control of then I just stopped and I

1062
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: let her take control of it. And then we went

1063
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: back and forth and I just stopped talking and I

1064
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: let her start talking, and she goes, I was just like,

1065
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: we had to get the treasure over there. I'm like Okay,

1066
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: we gotta be careful though, because if somebody's gonna stop us.

1067
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: And she goes a dragon that was dragons with pirates

1068
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: and they go your world. And I'd never been as

1069
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: proud of my daughter in this moment. I looked at

1070
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: it and I said, well, I said, it's gonna be

1071
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: hard to get past that dragon. And she goes, no,

1072
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: it's not that. I go. Why she goes, we have

1073
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: ninjas and I didn't even know she knew what a

1074
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: ninja was. And I was like, that's my girl. And

1075
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: we kicked those pirates ass with our ninja's in the dragon.

1076
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: So it was unbelievable to see that. And then I

1077
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: was like, that's a really cool thing. So like for

1078
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: me those moments, like I know she's going to remember

1079
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: that stuff. But even like my son, like when we

1080
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: go on vacation and stuff like if he wants to,

1081
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: he's much more meeker my son than my daughter. My

1082
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 2: daughter is an animal. She's like, Dad, look, I could

1083
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: do a flip and jumps in the pool. And I

1084
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: said to my wife is she I didn't know she

1085
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: could do that? Okay? And my son is very like

1086
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: it's the water colt like it's the water, you know,

1087
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: like one of those. So like I'll take time and

1088
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: I'll play with him differently, and I feel like you

1089
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: make memories in different ways. My son loves if I

1090
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: sit there with him as he's like building, like just

1091
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: not even building a sandcast, just like digging in the

1092
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 2: sand in counting. He loves. He's like me. He's a geek.

1093
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: He's like math. He is, Yeah, he loves. He knows

1094
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: his times tables A three, like he's crazy. And he's

1095
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: just like doing like the digging whatever and counting. And

1096
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: I'll just be sitting there and here just take my

1097
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: hand and kiss it and like I swear, and I'm like,

1098
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 2: this is unbelievable. I know, it's so crazy. It's amazing,

1099
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: you know. So those kind of things for me, and

1100
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: it's like making it together, like I remember that stuff,

1101
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: and they remember that stuff, and they're gonna remember that

1102
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: when I'm gone. You know.

1103
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: I also feel like it's so important to like, like

1104
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: like you say, like when your daughter mentioned that now

1105
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: there's a dragon and she's using her imagination now building

1106
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: this world. I think that, you know, just in life,

1107
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: it's so easy to fall into this, you know, garbage,

1108
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: job or whatever it is, and like you forget about

1109
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: the magic that you can create in your own head.

1110
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: And I think just being abled or being allowed to

1111
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: do that as a kid, and that being encouraged and

1112
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: supported no matter what you do, you won't have to

1113
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: be a stand up comedy, just like being imaginative in

1114
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: life and being able to explore and wanting to look

1115
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: beyond what's right in front of you. Like if you

1116
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: feel you're building the those things, I think so they'll

1117
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: be their own people.

1118
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah. I mean, my daughter's really into music, right,

1119
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: and when everybody, every little girl right wants to be

1120
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 2: a singer, right, you think like you hear that all times.

1121
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: I want to be I want to be tails blah blah.

1122
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: Me and my daughter are talking and I'm like, I'm like,

1123
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: you like musical a lot. What do you want her?

1124
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: She goes, I want to be a DJ. She's eight

1125
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: years old, Like okay, you can be DJ. DJ realized

1126
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: like okay cool. She's like yeah, I was like, you

1127
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: don't want to be She goes, I said, you don't

1128
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: want to be a singer. You don't want to sing,

1129
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: and she goes, I'm not really good at that I'm like,

1130
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: you're eight, you don't know what you're good at yet,

1131
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: but also you have a passion to be a DJ. Now, Like, okay, cool,

1132
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: so we buy this really cool little dj uh toy.

1133
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: Santa brought her a little cool little DJ toy. Yeah,

1134
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: and she just rocks out and like DJ. She makes

1135
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: the playlist in the car when we go on road trips,

1136
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: like she like just loves music. And I was like, oh,

1137
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool that she's found something she's passionate about.

1138
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: Amazing.

1139
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is really cool, you know, But I think

1140
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it is I've learned to

1141
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: get out of their own way. My parents were very

1142
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: embraced me in that way, whereas like, figure out what

1143
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna do, go ahead and try it, you know,

1144
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: go ahead, and you know you're gonna suck at something

1145
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: and if you do. But my mom was great to

1146
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: give me a timeline. I remember when I told her

1147
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: I was moving to LA. So I moved to LA

1148
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three to chase the dream of

1149
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: being a film director and screenwriter just because that's what

1150
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: people did. That's it I wanted. That's where you had

1151
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: to that's the town you had to be in. It

1152
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: was two thousand and three, right, and I ended up

1153
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: selling men's pants at Nordstrom. But my mom from Baby's

1154
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Pasts and midspants did that's all I did. So I

1155
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: started there. But when I left, I remember taking my

1156
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: mom to dinner and I was like, Mom, I'm going

1157
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: to move to LA and she goes, okay, how long

1158
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 2: you going to be? That's what her answer. And I said,

1159
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: I said, I said, I don't know. She goes, Nope,

1160
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: three years and I was like, okay, and now just

1161
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: talking to you right now, I guess I realized a

1162
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: lot of my driven timeline stuff comes from my mother.

1163
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: She put a cat. She goes, she goes three years.

1164
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: She's like, you're I go out there and spend your wheels.

1165
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: That's it. She goes, you got three years to do

1166
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: what you got to do out there, and if you don't

1167
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: make it happen in three years, you come back home

1168
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: to your family. That was what. That was her answer

1169
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 2: over our you know stuff. Shehells, and I was like okay,

1170
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: and that was it. So and I went out there

1171
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: with in my head that I'd be out there three years,

1172
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: which is crazy.

1173
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 4: So so was it like you know, to your past,

1174
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: you go. She got to hear that up coming.

1175
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: It openned out eventually, but I guess that happens to

1176
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: what was supposed to happen. But I ended up coming

1177
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: to home. My mom had become a widow at the

1178
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: same time as my grandmother because they both my grandfather

1179
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: and father had died within three days of each other.

1180
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: So my mom went through some shit, but she always

1181
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 2: had Grandma, and Grandma looked across the street. Then Grandma

1182
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: got sick and passed away. So I came home for

1183
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Grandma's funeral and I just I don't even know why

1184
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: I said it, but now I guess at this point,

1185
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: as I'm soul searching, I was meant to say it.

1186
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: I just said to her, I said, you know what,

1187
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: maybe I'll come home for Like in my mind, I

1188
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: just said, I don't even know why I just put it.

1189
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, maybe I'll just come home

1190
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: for a little bit. And she cried and hugged and

1191
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: said thank you, thank you, thank you. I was like, well,

1192
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: I guess I'm coming back.

1193
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

1194
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: And that was like a two years and I was like,

1195
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: all right, you know what, I'll just come back for

1196
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: a minute, I'll figure it out. And I moved back home.

1197
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: I came home h thirty years old, living in mom's basement.

1198
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: Hey I was there. Yeah, yeah, we all get there, right.

1199
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: And then yeah, it was just it was just a

1200
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: weird thing. And then it actually just put me on

1201
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: the track to be back with the boys here doing

1202
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: it again. Because when I was living in LA I

1203
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: was just coming home for shows. And whenever I came home,

1204
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I'll be home in May, and

1205
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: Martin would be like, you want to put an improv show,

1206
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: let's do it, and we just put up our own

1207
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: self produced show. So I just always working with them

1208
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: when I came home, you know. And then when I

1209
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: moved home, I was like, I'm moving back to like,

1210
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: all right, let's perform more and let's do more together.

1211
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: And that's when it started that I was back in

1212
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: the mix. We started doing the video stuff, you know,

1213
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: started getting stuff sketch comedy and things like that.

1214
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: So and that's that's that's super cool.

1215
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: It's funny that you were talking about how as a

1216
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: kid you used to do a creative writing that was

1217
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: always actually my outlet too.

1218
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't I was the I was the kid who

1219
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: you know.

1220
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: I was in first grade and my dad had introduced

1221
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: me to this book.

1222
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: It's called Into Thin Air. It's the same author that

1223
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: did Into the Wild, which made a movie about It's

1224
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 4: John Krackauer, I think it's his name.

1225
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: And my dad was like, you read this book, and like,

1226
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: I just never really liked reading, and so, I mean

1227
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: I probably half read it, and I was like, do

1228
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: I want to write my own story in this setting?

1229
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: And I ended up reading it on my uh like

1230
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: morning announcements as at my school, and I just kept

1231
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: doing that over and over again at I told my

1232
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: mom over Christmas and she was like, you know, back then,

1233
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: we didn't really know. We were asking our you know,

1234
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: our our our friends that had kids, like do you

1235
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: are your kids doing this ship?

1236
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: They're like, no, a little nerd of there, you don't

1237
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: have it. Still the story I have.

1238
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: I have all of them. My mom kept all this stuff.

1239
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: I love moms for that man, that's so great.

1240
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 4: And she recorded all the videos and then it went

1241
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: from that.

1242
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: To use video series You Got You Got.

1243
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Like she was she was all of my actresses, as

1244
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: all my siblings were doing.

1245
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: Of course on the ship.

1246
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Ever, right, It's just funny though, how all those things evolved.

1247
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: And I feel like you have a similar story where

1248
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: you you you've always been that guy and you kind

1249
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: of realized that yourself and you've evolved that in terms

1250
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: of your the career, like the success of your career.

1251
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: Is there any sort of moment or time period where

1252
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: you remember with the guys on IM Practical Jokers where

1253
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: you looked around and said, hey, man, like we're doing

1254
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: something here, yeah, and like and it It probably kept

1255
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: going from there, but what was that point where you go,

1256
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: holy shit, y'all?

1257
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: There was so many because it's always it always built,

1258
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: which was insanity to think about, Like to be on

1259
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: to be you know, ten years on TV is crazy

1260
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: to think about that. I mean, most people get a

1261
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: second episode. It's not like it just doesn't happen, you know.

1262
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: So it was like, this is crazy for it to happen.

1263
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 2: But I remember we had gone, I we The thing

1264
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: that happened that was weird was when season two came out.

1265
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: That's when people knew us. We were filming all season one.

1266
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: Nobody knew the who we were, so it was easy.

1267
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: Season two comes out when it one hits and now's

1268
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 2: on air and we're filming too. It's like, oh, people

1269
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: now kind of recognizing us as we're going. That's a

1270
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: little weird. But on Long Island, we love wrestling, right

1271
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: sound Q. Specifically, there's a wrestling event at Westbury in

1272
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: the Round. I don't know if you guys know this venue,

1273
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: but it's a it's in Westbury, Long Island. It's in

1274
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: the round. So there's the wrestling matches in the middle,

1275
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: and then there's all these fans like a real wrestling yeah,

1276
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: people with broken Yeah, no, it's but yeah, it was

1277
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: like a wrestling an event for WWE or whoever. It

1278
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: was okay, so we're like, hey, let's go. So we

1279
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: decided to go. We get invited, We go, and I

1280
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: picked the guys up in my car. We go, we drive,

1281
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: we park, we get out, we walk in, and we're

1282
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 2: sitting there and we're just watching it, and all of

1283
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: a sudden, like one head turns, and then two heads turn,

1284
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 2: and then three heads turn, and then the whole place

1285
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: turns and we're in the round and I'm like, people

1286
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: are recognizing us in a big way here. Yeah, And

1287
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: people are like, no, I know what. And then the

1288
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: match ends because they do the middle match things. You know,

1289
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: there's like an intermission, and the place turned around and

1290
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: fucking pins us against the wall and there is I'm

1291
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: not kidding, three thousand people screaming want to take pictures

1292
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: with us, and I'm like, oh, how the fuck do

1293
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: we get out of this? This is insanity. So we're

1294
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: literally pinned in the corner and we're all looking at

1295
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: each other, and I was like, uh, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,

1296
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 2: and it starts getting closed and anyway, and it starts

1297
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: getting like getting pushed around, and I'll like and then

1298
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: I was looking on and I showed the exit behind us,

1299
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: and I was like, we gotta get tell out of here.

1300
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: Come on, I was like, Larry, and everybody starts laughing

1301
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: at and we just fucking ran. Yeah, legit. People like

1302
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 2: came with us, like into the parking lot. We got

1303
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: in my car and like people like around my car

1304
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: and we drove away and got out of there, and

1305
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: we were like, what the fuck was that? Like, it

1306
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: was insanity. I was like, I'd never seen anything like that.

1307
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: And we told our we told our you know, our

1308
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: management at the time, and then they had talked to

1309
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: the people at the wrestling event. They're like why and

1310
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: you tell us we were there because we're huge vans

1311
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 2: and it was like, oh, even the wrestlers want to see.

1312
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: It's like we could have been part of the bit.

1313
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 2: But that was like the first moment I was like, wow,

1314
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: we're pretty famous. Yeah, that was a moment where it

1315
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: was like because I was also like nervous for my

1316
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: safety and it was like and it was like a

1317
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: really weird thing and everybody was looking at you. Yeah,

1318
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: so it was really weird. But I like things like that.

1319
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: But then, of course, like taking the stage at Radio City.

1320
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: I remember taking the stage there and looking out a

1321
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: sh at a theater where me and the boys had

1322
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: gone watching stuff, and we stood there for a minute

1323
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: where a crowd was going, that's not even be able

1324
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: to talk. We're all overwhelmed with emotion standing there being

1325
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: New York Is on Radio City stage and we're all like,

1326
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: who's going to talk first because they're so choked up,

1327
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: you know. And we're all doing it together, which is

1328
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: such a great thing, Like you don't have to tell

1329
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: your friends what you're doing. You're doing with them, there's

1330
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: no jealousy. Everybody's on the come up together. You don't

1331
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: have to explain what your life is. You know, people

1332
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: get it. So those moments always happened for over and over,

1333
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: Like we did a cruise and like what the fuck

1334
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: are we doing with the cruise? Nobody's got to come

1335
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: on the cruise sold out every time, and it's like,

1336
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: what is who's coming on the boat? Who's going on

1337
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: vacation with us? Like that's what it was. I wouldn't

1338
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: even go, like I barely I'm barely going, you know.

1339
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: So it's like things like that, that little things like

1340
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: that to just keep happening and happening, you know, and

1341
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: then we do the meat greets of the show. You

1342
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: hear these people's stories about you got me through this.

1343
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: People find us mostly in hospitals, in prisons. That is

1344
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 2: a true statistic. That's where true TV plays. It plays

1345
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: in hospital, they play cable TV. Still, that's people. That's

1346
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: where it and they're at the hotel points and they're

1347
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: like at their low points, right they're at like you know,

1348
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: they're they're stuck in this whole hospital worried about the health,

1349
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: and they find us with laughter. I've met so many

1350
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: people that have come out of prison and told me

1351
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: that I got this happened. I'm not giming you. Two

1352
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: months ago, I'm in Los Angeles. My rental car breaks down.

1353
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: The rental car guy shows up the tow truck. They

1354
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: have to tell it to lax. The guy gets out.

1355
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: He's a stout dude comes over. He's like, hey man.

1356
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, he goes, Holy shit, Joe. I go yeah,

1357
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: he goes, I just got out of prison three months ago.

1358
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: I watched them all the time. I'm like, hey, dude,

1359
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: you like I have to say it, Like how sticks?

1360
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: He's like doing way better now, Like great, he took

1361
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: a selfie and lefts of the night. I'm like, and

1362
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's my life.

1363
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 4: This is sitting in the matrix?

1364
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: Is weird? Is you know? So it's like those things

1365
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: like that that always just build up and you always

1366
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: get reminded of what you mean to people, and it's

1367
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: the fuel for the fire to keep on doing what

1368
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: you're doing, you know. So that's like, really the takeaway

1369
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: from me for that.

1370
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: Do you think that at the end of the day,

1371
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: no matter how hard it is or what your personal

1372
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: drive is, that interactions like that and other people's stories

1373
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: are are just really important in terms of just why

1374
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: this should be important to you anymore? Like me, because

1375
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: like what's why would you want to keep going at all?

1376
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you still don't. You don't get numb to it.

1377
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: You don't get numb to it, like it no matter

1378
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 2: how many times you hear about it, and even if

1379
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: it feels like the same story because you've heard it

1380
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: from you know, over ten years. I've met how many fans, right,

1381
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: you know, hundreds of thousands of people just always tell

1382
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: me these stories. It's always feels like the first time,

1383
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: and I always give the attention it deserves, you know,

1384
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: And I really feel like that's that's important because I

1385
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: grew up, like I said, Like, I didn't start till

1386
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: I was thirty four, right, I was a fan of

1387
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: people before I was famous. I was a fantasye Like

1388
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: I remember, like working in Nordstrom's. I sold Vince Vaughan pants.

1389
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: It was like the highlight of my life. I was like,

1390
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: that's pretty bad story. I love Vince Vaughan. I've never

1391
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: told him and I'm friends with him, like I met him. Yeah,

1392
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: we did the We did the Nashville Comedy Festival in

1393
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: two thousand and fifteen or sixteen and he was producing it,

1394
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: so we got invited to come do it and I

1395
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: met him. And then when I met him, I was like, uh,

1396
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to bring this up, might be weird.

1397
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: But I sold your pants and he goes, what I said,

1398
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: I worked at Nordstrom in the grove. I said, you

1399
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: bought a pair of pants for me, And I said

1400
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 2: it was the highlight of my career. He goes, well,

1401
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: hopefully you were doing much better now.

1402
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 4: You still saize thirty four.

1403
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: We had thirty six and see but I told drinkle

1404
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: of water, but he's, uh, you know it was. It

1405
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: was like things like that where I grew up as

1406
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: a fan of people. So it's never lost on me

1407
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: when somebody sees me and it's like, oh my god,

1408
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of you, like and because I've been

1409
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: on the other side, which I honestly I think it's

1410
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: a better side. I love being a fan of people.

1411
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 4: It's great.

1412
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: It's so great to do that, you know what I mean.

1413
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: So to have that, I'm still fan of people now,

1414
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: Like I'll go out to events as a fan of

1415
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: things and then I find out they're fans of me,

1416
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, how do you even know me,

1417
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: It's still like it's so weird, Like, how am I

1418
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: even on your radar? You know?

1419
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are you fans of? If you don't mind

1420
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: me asking, who would you be? Starsucker around Taylor Swift?

1421
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: Hands down?

1422
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 4: I mean, of course, yeah, of course t Swift.

1423
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, I went to I went to the Taylor

1424
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: Swift concert with my daughter in met life talking about

1425
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: making memories. Oh, I saw a cool memory on her

1426
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: face as she screamed when she took the stage and

1427
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: realized Taylor Swift is right here into my face, like

1428
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 2: it was crazy. That was great. Yeah, but uh, Bruno

1429
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: Mars was a huge one for me. I didn't know

1430
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: Bruno was a fan of ours, and I'm a huge

1431
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: fan of Bruno's Music's amazing. He's the best. It puts

1432
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: on a great show, you know. And he invited us

1433
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: to a show in Albany and we went and they're like, oh,

1434
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: you want to come back, stating to me brow like yeah,

1435
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: And he talked to us for like twenty five minutes,

1436
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: like quoting stuff from the show. I'm like, how do

1437
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: you like even know the show? And he's like he's

1438
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: liked We watched on the door bus He's like, you know,

1439
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: we just watched we binge watch it and then that's it.

1440
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: And he's like a true fan and a super nice guy.

1441
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: So was like things like that, Like but like Vince

1442
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: like people that were like my idols like knowing me

1443
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: and I've had the chance to make laugh Adam Sandler,

1444
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: It's like crazy, It's just be Jim Carrey like people

1445
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: that I grew up being like this is why I

1446
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: want to do comedy are like, oh, you're funny.

1447
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm like what, Yeah, what does that do?

1448
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean?

1449
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: Cause it's it's it's it's like a dream come true,

1450
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: but you're also still out here chasing your dreams.

1451
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah's so weird. It's weird. How does it fit in

1452
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 2: washing machine?

1453
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1454
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, it's like just running into the start, like

1455
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: little half the wheel and there is it?

1456
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 4: Like do you feel like there's a made it point?

1457
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: Or is or is it not about that?

1458
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: It's not about that anymore?

1459
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? Same here that's what like but me here, what

1460
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 4: your what your take is on that?

1461
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: I think people haven't made it. You haven't made it

1462
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: point when you don't know what you're trying to make.

1463
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: I think you're like just in your mind, You've set

1464
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: up this what it feels like to be made, you know,

1465
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: like I've done it. But then just looking at the mirror,

1466
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 2: like would you quit right now? Right? Nobody nobody's gonna

1467
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: say yeah to that pretty much if you're doing what

1468
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: you love, yeah, right. So that was like the big

1469
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: thing for me. So I was like, oh, I'm doing

1470
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: what I'm supposed to do, so making it is just

1471
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: to keep doing it, you know kind of thing. You know.

1472
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: I just think the balance changes, the shift of focus,

1473
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: the how much you dedicate to it. I think that

1474
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: really is the thing for me. So if the big

1475
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: thing for me was how much time I was dedicating

1476
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: to one thing and how much time I was neglecting

1477
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: from another. And then it's realizing, oh, this is we're

1478
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: way too much in the red zone here, We're going

1479
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: to bring dialot back, or this is not enough. You're

1480
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: not doing enough to satisfy what's making you happy, to

1481
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: make you a better person and all that. So it

1482
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: is a cycle that way. I think that's the biggest

1483
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: part is that balance is so hard, so hard. Which

1484
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: part of the balance, like trying to figure out like

1485
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: if you're being good enough in every aspect where you're

1486
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: trying to be good good enough father, good enough entertainer,

1487
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: good enough husband, you know, good enough family member, you know,

1488
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: whatever it is, whatever you define as you know what

1489
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: it is to be good at something.

1490
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Because they can kind of pull against each other. Sometimes

1491
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: they don't kind of they do the direct right. It's

1492
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: just like, sometimes it's impossible to be the best at

1493
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: everything in one exact moment in time.

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00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have to it.

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Speaker 2: The biggest realization is that you can't be the best

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 2: at everything at once. You have to decide which're gonna

1497
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: be the best at right now. And I think that's

1498
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: the biggest learning point for me over the past couple

1499
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: of years, was like what am I gonna be the

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: best at right now? And not feel the guilt of

1501
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: it one way or the other. It's like, this is

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00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: what I'm doing right now, but you did this here, now,

1503
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: you owe this one the best. You got to come

1504
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: back over here. You got to balance it out. So

1505
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it was like I'm gonna

1506
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: do the best of this, but I wasn't doing much

1507
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: over here. I remember right before COVID, my daughter said

1508
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: to me when I came home, I hadn't been home

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00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: for like twelve days. She said, Daddy, I love when

1510
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: you come to visit, which is so funny. You're hurtful

1511
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: at the same time, like it's like I'm doing something wrong.

1512
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: My four year old daughter tells me she loves when

1513
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: I come to visit. Will always I don't what you

1514
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: talk about it, I'm like, and then I was like,

1515
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna be dead soon, Like you better do something here,

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00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like it's just a weird,

1517
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: like weird thing to be like, oh, you know, but

1518
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: you're out there getting all the admiration and making people left,

1519
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: making other people feel good, but your daughter's missing you,

1520
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: you know. But then you spend too much time here

1521
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: and you feel like neglecting what you're supposed to do,

1522
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: and you're not feeling fulfilled, so you're not being as

1523
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: good as you are supposed to be here. So it's

1524
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: just a weird balance and you're still you'll never master

1525
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: You said to do your best to manage it. I

1526
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: guess is the best word.

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask the you overly asked a dumb,

1528
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: boring question at this point about you leaving in practical jokers,

1529
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna appreciate that.

1530
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, also because it's like.

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01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: I already kind of assumed that it was what you're

1532
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: kind of saying right now, where it's like you're prioritizing things. Also,

1533
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: what's cool that I've noticed is like you're also living

1534
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: out your dreams too as the guy who started this

1535
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, So it's not like even like that. Yeah,

1536
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean TMZ would want it to be that way,

1537
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: but like like, was there a moment where you said, hey,

1538
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: I want to start prioritizing X y Z and then

1539
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: you have to start of taken action on those things though,

1540
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: right Well yeah, I mean the which might feel uncomfortable

1541
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: and scary, it's weird, and you got to let people

1542
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: know stuff, and it's like.

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's going through it all in the

1544
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: public eye is the hardest part. I Look, there's a

1545
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: lot of personal things that I'm not going to discuss

1546
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: with anybody because I don't even want to do that,

1547
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: which I appreciate too. But it's more of like it's

1548
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: like when you're you know, like your whole family's falling

1549
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: apart and you've got things that you have to deal

1550
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: with and all that, it's like, well, this is what's happening,

1551
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: and then you know, sorry if you don't like it,

1552
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: but this is what's happening. I'm a real person, so

1553
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: does what happens? Yeah, all right, so that's it. And

1554
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: then you know, and then when you're able to like

1555
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: take your time and feel like you've made some strides

1556
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: and do things and like you don't have to know

1557
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: what's next, and you don't have to know what the

1558
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: next piece is, you know, and people are always like, oh, well,

1559
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Are you gonna And I'm like,

1560
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening next, and I'm fine with that.

1561
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: So you need to be fine with it. You know.

1562
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: It's like I don't know that to anybody, and I

1563
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: just need to do what I think is best at

1564
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: the moment, and that's what I'm doing. So that's a

1565
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: hard that's a hard lesson to learn as a person

1566
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: who is trying to be an entertainer and be in

1567
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: this world where it's had to be a little bit

1568
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: selfish with like, look, it's okay to not know and

1569
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. I kind of feel, you know.

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01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 4: So, so like where's your headspace now?

1571
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: It seems like you're very family focused with like and so,

1572
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: and you know, things evolve, kids grow up, and kind

1573
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: of shifting back towards your career in the future of

1574
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, all the wonderful things I'm sure you're still

1575
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: going to do in your life. What are some of

1576
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: those goals that you'd like to have accomplished as an entertainer.

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01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: Well, one of them one of them for me. Another

1578
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: medium that's awesome is podcasts.

1579
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I do. Yes, I have podcast and I've

1580
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 4: also been a fan of it great.

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01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I love Later that podcast and it's really

1582
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: been really fun and I'm looking forward to like giving

1583
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: that the time and attention to love it needs after

1584
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: the tour ends and I'll have some there and me

1585
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: and Steve are really excited about it and love and

1586
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: I love the format because it gives back, you know,

1587
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: as funny as it is, it's really about helping people

1588
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: with their dilemmas as best weekend, you know, and making

1589
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: people shine light into that stuff. So, you know, the

1590
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: two cool Moms. It's really fun. It's named after it's

1591
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: an omash to our mothers, which is great. I love

1592
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: my mom, you know, you know, so it's great to

1593
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: have her live on in that and I get to

1594
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: relive memories of her and keep her alive in my

1595
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,959
Speaker 2: mind every day. So like things like that is really

1596
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: fun and to work with. We're doing it with iHeart too,

1597
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: which is just I've always I grew up in New York.

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01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: I know, I love that brand. I was just like,

1599
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: it's it's cool to be a part of that like

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01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: kind of family, which is really fun. I don't know

1601
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: if I'm okay to say that. So it's actually nightheard shows.

1602
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: Oh is it okay? So it worked out?

1603
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: Ye?

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: Good? Uh yeah, so like to be you know what

1605
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: that's like like to actually feel like be part of

1606
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: that family and stuff like I grew up going to

1607
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: jingle balls and they still slap yeah, you know, I

1608
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: take my kids to them. So but you know, to

1609
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: do that that was like a medium. I was like, Okay,

1610
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: I want to do I want to do something that

1611
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm proud of here in that space too. So Two

1612
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: Cool Moms is becoming something that I'm going to focus

1613
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: on to make it what I think could be really

1614
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: the best version of it and being steeper excited about that.

1615
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: So that's definitely on the horizon. The Kids Book that

1616
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: I have coming out. That's another thing where I like,

1617
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun making it, and I

1618
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: made it just kind of like because I was like, oh,

1619
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: I'll make this, but then I had so much fun

1620
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: with the process, with the illustrator, working with the illustrators,

1621
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: stuff like, it was so fun.

1622
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: Can you describe what it might look like at all?

1623
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: Without giving it? We can cut this if you don't

1624
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: want it to be out Yeteah, I'm just curious that.

1625
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: No, no, it's it's uh yeah, it's more like I

1626
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: gave it to the nostalgia of I actually gave them

1627
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: pictures of my bear growing up. Okay, you like, yeah,

1628
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 2: my bay that I still have my bear, still have it? Yeah, yeah,

1629
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: I still like that he's in storage and in the post.

1630
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: But I sleep with him right now. And again, I'm

1631
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: not gonna lie, man lie. A couple of years ago,

1632
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: I took him out of the closet and I was

1633
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: out hugging him for a minute. But the yes, I

1634
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: send pictures of me and the bear, and he did

1635
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: a version of my son, like a cartoon version of

1636
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: my son and a cartoon version of my bear. So

1637
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of cool like that, So cool it's just

1638
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: really fun and a couple of cartoon versions of one

1639
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 2: of my favorite dogs that's in the book. So yeah,

1640
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: so that that that was cool, and I was like, oh,

1641
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: this is fun. I actually want to do this again

1642
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: with a different lens, right, because it's all evolving to

1643
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: it like you do the first one, because like, oh,

1644
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: this is fun. It's like, oh, you know what, but

1645
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: this is actually could be really cool because I have

1646
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: a new, totally different idea because I'm thinking about this now.

1647
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, now, what would be another kid's

1648
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: book I would do? And I started thinking about that

1649
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: and I came up with so many fun ideas. I

1650
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: was like, oh I should do I'm going to do

1651
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: another one because now I have the lens of not like,

1652
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: oh I had this idea, could we do this? And

1653
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: now it's like, hey, I did this, what's another way

1654
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: I could do this and do it better? So I

1655
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: think that's it. That's a cool thing, you know. So

1656
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: I have goals like that and stuff, you know, but

1657
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: I want to take some trips with the fan and

1658
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, do things like that.

1659
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: So it's funny that you said that you had this

1660
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: idea for a children's book and which is something brand

1661
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: new for you. But and you're you're making this it's happening,

1662
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: and then it made you think that you wanted to

1663
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: look at this through a different lens. And I took

1664
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: that as Okay, I did this, how do I build

1665
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: on that?

1666
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 4: Versus just do that again?

1667
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: Tick a box? Right?

1668
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 4: So what is that to you?

1669
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's too when you do it the

1670
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: first time, people are like, oh, you learn the lessons

1671
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: and you move forward. I look at it more like

1672
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: you don't make the same mistakes when you do something

1673
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: the first time, right, So it's not like a lesson learned.

1674
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, these are the things because at the

1675
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: end of the day, you accomplished it. Great good work.

1676
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: Who doesn't don't forget, you know, you can be like, oh,

1677
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: I could have done that better. Like people say that

1678
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: all the time now, as one hundred percent of people

1679
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: I like New Year's resolutions, people say that all the time.

1680
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: And I heard this thing that recently and it was like,

1681
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: don't forget to thank the person who got through you

1682
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: through last year before you tell them what they did wrong.

1683
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, that is a huge thing that

1684
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: really resonated with me. Which is really cool. So I

1685
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: think the same thing with any project you do. It's like, oh,

1686
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,479
Speaker 2: I could have done this better, this better, this better?

1687
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: Fuck that you did it? Yeah, you did great. What

1688
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: could you do different? What could you would you learn?

1689
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: What would the mistakes that you wouldn't make again? And

1690
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: I think that's the way to look at it instead,

1691
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: it's go from a place of positivity. So for me,

1692
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, this was a kid's book. I had

1693
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: a cool idea. It kind of just slapped together and

1694
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is actually when I saw

1695
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: the first drawing, I went back to the words and

1696
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: I was like, let me, let me fix this and

1697
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: make it cooler. And I did, and I had a

1698
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: second draft and I was like, you don't need a

1699
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: second draft. This is approved. I'm like, yeah, but I

1700
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: want one. And I went and I did that, and

1701
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: I was like, now now it feels like it's something yeah, yeah,

1702
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: that you know. So I think that's a look at

1703
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: the lens of how to make it better instead of

1704
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: what I did.

1705
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: Wrong or dwelling on the past. You could look at

1706
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: the first pilot episode of A Practical Jokers.

1707
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: And say it's atrocious.

1708
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: Well, you would do everything differently, I know, But how

1709
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: do you even know that you would if you hadn't

1710
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: gone through all those things? You only know that now.

1711
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: That's it, right, That's that's a hindsight thought. So you

1712
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: can look back and regret or you know whatever, or

1713
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: just keep applying to the next thing, right, Man.

1714
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: I like it.

1715
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: When I make a podcast, I'll listen to it, usually

1716
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: one time, like when it's too late. I'll listen to

1717
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: it in my car on the way to the office,

1718
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: when I know that.

1719
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 2: It's been published four hours ago.

1720
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 4: And then I'll never do it again.

1721
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: Great, but almost as an exercise just to be like, Okay,

1722
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: I'll remember what I wanted to change. I'll never forget it,

1723
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: to be honest, but just apply to the next thing. Yeah, sure,

1724
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: keep building it, right, Yeah, it's all about building. It's

1725
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: all about building you know ever thought about And this may

1726
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: be a too early with a conversation, but this, this

1727
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: children's book sounds so cool, like a like a movie

1728
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: imagination of this or something like Yeah, like that'd be

1729
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: super bad as you're talking about how you were a

1730
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: writer a creator in that way. I mean, obviously those

1731
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: are hard things to do, but that would be a

1732
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: sickth for sure.

1733
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't know like everything, maybe do you think like that? Yeah,

1734
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: well I have. Like I told you in the beginning,

1735
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: I was I want to be a writer director when

1736
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: I grew up. That's always what I want to do.

1737
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: So I have a movie script i'm working on now

1738
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: which is a live action movie, which so I've been more.

1739
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 2: It's a it's an action comedy. So I'm out working

1740
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: with that now and hopefully going to get that made

1741
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: and directed this year. That's what I'm that's my goal

1742
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: for this year, A big one for me. But you know,

1743
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, Jokers. I loved it was great,

1744
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: but it felt like sometimes it feels like a ten

1745
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: year tangent because it was like, oh, I wasn't Oh

1746
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: I did this, this is great and it was great,

1747
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: But I always wanted to write and direct and it

1748
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: was like I learned a lot from that and I

1749
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: could actually move it and I was like, oh, let

1750
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: me apply everything I know now to directing. So absolutely, yeah,

1751
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: which is really cool. I got to do the Jokers movie,

1752
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: which is so great to do a movie.

1753
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: How it looked different stylistically, yeah, you know, I mean like, yeah,

1754
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: I was like this is cool, a great idea.

1755
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: That was fun, and we got to like check off

1756
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: some major because a lot of ideas were like this

1757
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: would be great to do, but the TV screen is

1758
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: too small. Yeah, we need something to make more time. Yeah,

1759
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 2: time and like you know, real estate on the screen.

1760
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: You know. So it was it was fun to be

1761
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: able to do that, but like things like that, so

1762
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: so to be able to do this the movie is

1763
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: like the next that's probably my next biggest thing. It's like,

1764
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: this is what I want to do. I want to

1765
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: write and direct the film.

1766
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: So, uh, there's a thing that I've sort of learned

1767
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: where I mean creative people or people who have creative endeavors, dreams,

1768
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: reliics of how old you are, where you are in

1769
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: your career. You know, it can be a very intimidating path, right,

1770
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: Like what advice would you give to somebody who is

1771
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: just struggling with how difficult it can be and where

1772
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: to go next? Because you've probably felt that more times

1773
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: than a lot of people. Yeah, and you found yourself

1774
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: somewhere else and what did you to get there?

1775
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 4: How'd you change it?

1776
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: In your brain? And yeah, I think I mean a

1777
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: lot of it comes with age to be honest, because

1778
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, like if it happened younger, how I

1779
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: would handle lot of it all. But I think the

1780
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: biggest thing for me is like nothing gets started till

1781
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: it gets started. So and the only person that could

1782
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: start something is yourself, right. So a lot of people

1783
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: get in their own way. They look at the ways

1784
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: people do things and how they've done it and what's

1785
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: the right steps, and there's no plan for anybody. Everything

1786
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: happens by accident. You could look at a thousand different

1787
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: famous people or a thousand people that you look up

1788
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 2: to in your industry, say you want to be an actor,

1789
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: and how those people got there is a thousand different stories.

1790
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: There's no The only thing that's the same is that

1791
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: they wanted to do it. So if you want to

1792
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: do it, you just have to start doing it. So

1793
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 2: for me, it was like when I wanted to start

1794
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: writing stories, I just sat down and started writing story.

1795
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: When I wanted to try out a kids book, I

1796
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: sat down and started writing what I thought what kids

1797
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: book would look like. When I wanted to you know,

1798
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: when I wanted to write a movie script, I was like,

1799
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: here's an idea for a movie. Let me flesh this out.

1800
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 2: But then the other thing I always think that helps

1801
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: is to find people to help you if you don't

1802
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: know what you're doing, that are good at what they do.

1803
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: So like for me with comedy, me and the guys

1804
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: were always very strong together because we always knew how

1805
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: to make each other funny and we knew how to

1806
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: help each other with that. So I think that was

1807
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: a big thing, even creating our live show, when our

1808
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: first did our live show to go out as the

1809
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: Jokers in Bradegal Jokers Live. When we first started touring

1810
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: eight years ago as a true it wasn't just like, hey,

1811
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna go on the road and talk about being jokers.

1812
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 2: It was like, what's our show. We built a show,

1813
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: and we analyzed it and we said you should say

1814
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: this and you should do that, and we all work

1815
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: together before one hundred percent, so like we were literally

1816
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: performing it to no one and working on this thing

1817
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: for a long time. And then you know, when I

1818
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: wrote my screenplay, it was like, all right, I know

1819
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: my story, but I don't know how to really write screenplay.

1820
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: So I've worked talked to my agents and stuff, and

1821
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: they found me a great co writer and he helped

1822
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: me with all about how it goes and this and

1823
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: the one you should be hitting each thing in nact

1824
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: stuff I didn't know, and I learned that from him

1825
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: and got better at that. So I got out of

1826
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: my own way, because if I just sat down tried

1827
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: to write a script and be like, I don't even

1828
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: know the hell I'm doing, you know, but I had

1829
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: the story, so like, okay, how do I tell the story?

1830
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: Help me?

1831
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: And you get somebody right, and you acknowledged the one

1832
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: hundred percent. There's also like you said, Okay, I want

1833
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: to write a kid's book. I'm gonna sit down and

1834
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: write a kid's book. And obviously you knew that you

1835
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: need to help with certain aspects of it. But it's

1836
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: I would imagine for some people would be very easy

1837
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, the whole just do it line is fine,

1838
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: But then there's a moment there where I'm sure that

1839
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: you're questioning, like, man, like is this the right thing

1840
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: in the moment and it takes a minute to get

1841
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: some sort of validation that you're going somewhere okay, yeah,

1842
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: and so how do you like keep it yeah, going

1843
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 1: in that wayeah?

1844
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I mean just look if you look

1845
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: at my comedy career, like eighteen years of doing comedy

1846
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: before I was even anybody knew who I was or

1847
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: got paid to do it in any real way. Sure,

1848
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean, so that was just doing it because I

1849
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: felt like that's what I should be doing, and there

1850
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 2: was no right way to do it, a wrong way

1851
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: to do it, and I wouldn't change any of it,

1852
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: you know. But we were putting up shows for fifty

1853
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: people here in Manhattan that twenty, you know, twenty people

1854
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: would show up and we'd have to we'd end up

1855
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 2: like losing money, right, having to pay the venue of

1856
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 2: twenty dollars at the end of the day too well,

1857
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: because you didn't tell them, thinks. But it was more like,

1858
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: just if you're looking for the validation, and if it's

1859
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: not coming from yourself, I really think you're doing the

1860
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: wrong thing. So what is the validation for you? It's

1861
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: that when I feel inside that I've made somebody smile,

1862
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: or if I feel somebody I made something funny or

1863
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: something that I guess sparks what I felt growing up

1864
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: is really like the navigator for me. So if i

1865
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: feel like I'm able to, you know, make either somebody laugh,

1866
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 2: or feel good or forget how terrible life is, or

1867
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: do whatever it is in that moment that I get

1868
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: out to do. I think that's a big part of

1869
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,879
Speaker 2: it for me. It's like I feel like I've provided

1870
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: something to the world that made it a little bit.

1871
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: Better outside of that which is amazing. Is there any

1872
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: sort of hey, I'm proud of myself. There was that

1873
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: for a while, or just like they not in the

1874
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: sense of I checked the box, I achieved the objective,

1875
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: I got the results. Yeah, for your own personal regiment

1876
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: or something, or what is that to you now?

1877
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: There was, Yeah, there's some like when I got that,

1878
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: when I got that fiftieth state and I had put

1879
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: that on my think that's really cool just for you man,

1880
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: that means nothing to anybody, right, Yeah, that was you know,

1881
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 2: I don't have that. But it was more like, you

1882
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna I set that goal for myself

1883
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: that doesn't really no one cares about that. I was like,

1884
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just gonna do it. And when I

1885
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: did that, I was like, that's pretty cool. I was

1886
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 2: able to do that. But you know, it's it's either

1887
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: little moments or a huge mile stones And I've been

1888
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: fortunate enough to have them across the board, you know,

1889
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: you know, playing the O two theater, you know, in

1890
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: in London, playing the O two Arena five times sold

1891
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: out across the world. It's crazy that we were able

1892
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: to do that. And then it's like it's not to now,

1893
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, the first time I was able to

1894
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,879
Speaker 2: do a stand up comedy show by myself in Appleton,

1895
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 2: Wisconsin in front of two hundred people has the same

1896
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 2: kind of merit because it feels like I accomplished something

1897
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: that was seemed insurmountable to me, whereas like, how the

1898
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: hell am I going to do a stand up comedy

1899
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: show by myself? I don't really necessarily know what I'm

1900
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: doing yet it sounds terrifying, it says, Yeah, and then

1901
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 2: being like, what the hell am I doing this arena?

1902
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, I've Impasta syndrome on like it taking the stage?

1903
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: You kidding me this, you know, and it just feels

1904
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: a little nutty. And you have those moments all across

1905
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: the way.

1906
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: So in the green room getting ready with that first

1907
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: one and you've prepped and you you're still like, I

1908
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: don't know this, Yeah, yeah, what's that feel like?

1909
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: In that moment. I mean, I was fortunate enough. I

1910
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: had Steve Byrne with me and Jiggy who's my other comic.

1911
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: He's my comic, and Tor Managery he opens for me.

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Speaker 2: He's phenomenal, and they're both really good at stand up comedy.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, if I don't know, if I

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Speaker 2: know I want to do something, I need people to

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Speaker 2: help me get there. I take the best with me.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 2: it first my first show, it's gonna be an hour

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Speaker 2: and twenty minute show. You guys do thirty minutes each

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Speaker 2: and then on cop pop and do thirty five minutes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's a love of material. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, I'll do thirty five minutes for

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Speaker 2: my first time. So I got up there and I

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Speaker 2: did thirty. I ended up doing thirty thirty, like thirty

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Speaker 2: seven minutes of my first one. And then I got

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Speaker 2: off stage and I came back to Steve. And Steve's

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Speaker 2: one of my best friends. He's a great guy. And

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Speaker 2: I just said he's been doing the stand up comedy

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Speaker 2: forever and I remember this explicit you're sitting there. He

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Speaker 2: had a Rocks class. He was drinking a Scotch and

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Speaker 2: I go so he goes, fuck you and he took

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Speaker 2: it seven eyes.

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Speaker 4: I laid.

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Speaker 2: He goes, I've been doing this for twenty years. Like

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Speaker 2: you just get up there and you talk for forty

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Speaker 2: minutes and everybody laughs. He's like, just shut out and

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Speaker 2: we started laughing. I'm like, seriously, he goes, he goes Joe.

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Speaker 2: He's like honestly, he's like, you just you got it.

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Speaker 2: You just got to find out what more you're gonna say.

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Speaker 2: So I was like all right, and he goes Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: He's like, we're only doing ten minutes each and I

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Speaker 2: said no, I said do fifteen. So the fifteen I

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Speaker 2: end up going for like forty five. And it was

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Speaker 2: like really cool that he was like, he was like

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Speaker 2: do it. He's like, you could do it. Just keep talking,

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Speaker 2: you'll find what to say. And I did that and

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Speaker 2: I started going and after I came back, I had

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Speaker 2: my notes and I was writing up everything, and we

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Speaker 2: just kept building, building building, and I started these little

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Speaker 2: comedy clubs and then people started coming out and I

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Speaker 2: ended up doing all these shows because they sold out.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, and my managers like, you could

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Speaker 2: do theaters. He's like, you could do spend one night

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Speaker 2: in you know, in Boise instead of being at the

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Speaker 2: comedy club all weekend. And he's like, and then we

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Speaker 2: can move you along if you want start doing that,

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Speaker 2: if you're ready for that. And I was like, I

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Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if I'm ready for that.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, well, he's like the world. He's like

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Speaker 2: people want it. He's like, so you're the only one

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Speaker 2: getting in your own way. And I remember that and

1961
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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to get my own way. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I said, all right, let's do it. And then when

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Speaker 2: I got on a theater stage. I was more comfortable

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Speaker 2: on theaters because I'm a very physical comedian, as you know.

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Speaker 2: So when I had I was on a comedy club stage,

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Speaker 2: I was like a caged bird. I was like, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't do it. I was afraid of falling off people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't stop right, HiT's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm a panther up there. Man, I'm all

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Speaker 2: over the place, you know, I don't stop moving. When

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Speaker 2: I got on a theater, I actually think I got better.

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Speaker 2: I was on a more comfortable space for me. I

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Speaker 2: was able to use my body. I came up with

1974
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: three or four jokes. I was doing full blowing like

1975
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Speaker 2: runs and like doing weird body things, and I was like, oh,

1976
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Speaker 2: I couldn't do these in the comicals. There were different tags.

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Speaker 2: It just made me better and I was like, Oh,

1978
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Speaker 2: that's what I needed. I needed this kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: So to do that and be like nervous in the

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Speaker 2: back but also feel prepared was a weird feeling for me.

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Speaker 2: So in the green room, I'm like super nervous, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've done the work, and it's like

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Speaker 2: when you get off stage, it was like, oh, you

1984
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Speaker 2: did it. You were right, you were prepared and you

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Speaker 2: could get better at this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's nervousness right before it starts, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of it's just in anticipation, right.

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Speaker 2: It's more of the anticipation, I think, because I'm not

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Speaker 2: a nervous person and I hadn't been nervous for a

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Speaker 2: long time, but yeah, I was even with the big shows.

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Speaker 1: This is important to you as well, yeah, and so,

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Speaker 1: and you're kind of in that sort of headspace.

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Speaker 4: I went by yourself for the first time, by yourself.

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Speaker 2: If you bomb, you're bombing. There's nobody to turn to.

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Speaker 2: It was no one to say, right, yeah, look at

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Speaker 2: this guy. You know what I mean, you can do it?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's it. That's what. That was the biggest

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Speaker 2: obstacle for me was being by myself on stage.

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Speaker 1: So when did you go away? Did you hit the

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Speaker 1: stage and all of a sudden you just are you

2002
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: just going? Yeah, and you lean into your like black

2003
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: from just like hey, what just happened back there?

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Speaker 2: The stories I did, I felt like that. Yeah, it

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: was like story a whirlwind of like just going. When

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01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: you get the last they start coming, they start building,

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01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 2: they laughing more, and you're like, oh, you got this,

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Speaker 2: and then before you know it, you look up and

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Speaker 2: times up and it's like, oh shit, that's a crazy

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Speaker 2: you have all these you know, I'm sure jokes and

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Speaker 2: story stories. Yeah. The good thing about is like being

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Speaker 2: a storyteller. I feel was easier for me because I'm

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Speaker 2: a storyteller and I love I tell a funny story,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, you're you're one of the ghosts, dude, Oh

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Speaker 2: thank you. I appreciate that. So I just know I'm

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Speaker 2: confident in that. So I'm like, all right, if I

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Speaker 2: find stuff that's interesting enough to talk about, I could

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Speaker 2: do it, and so that I just started lining up.

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Speaker 2: And then when I look at my life, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I have so many fucking stories? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, okay, so which ones am I

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Speaker 2: not going to tell you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So that that was really I think that was a

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Speaker 2: big turn point for me to be like, this is

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Speaker 2: my very this is the Joe Gato version of stand up.

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Speaker 2: This is my stand up is I'm telling stories and

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Speaker 2: give my perspective on them. So I think that's what

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Speaker 2: when I realized that it got way smoother real quick.

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Speaker 4: Before we head out, tell me about your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Two Cool Moms. It's a podcast with me and Steve

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 2: Burne where we basically had two cool mothers and we

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01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: like to who gave great maternal advice and we like

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01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: to think we inherited that gene. So we spend the

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Speaker 2: first half of the podcast talking about anything and everything

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Speaker 2: in between because we're two comedians, so we talk about life,

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Speaker 2: growing up, our kids, whatever it is. And then the

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Speaker 2: second half we take fans submitted dilemmas and solve them

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Speaker 2: to the best of our abilities, and good or bad

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Speaker 2: or always funny.

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Speaker 1: Just like yeah, girlfriend stuff or like a lot a

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Speaker 1: lot of relationship stuff we get.

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Speaker 2: But one of the biggest ones we've been getting a

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Speaker 2: lot was how do I make friends as a grown

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01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: up if I don't have kids? And that's a big one,

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01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: and a lot of people have been singing. I was like,

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: you don't, Yeah, that's your kid, You're gonna dialogue. I

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Speaker 2: just and we always talk about that for in depth

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Speaker 2: and people will give their like, you know, life experiences

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Speaker 2: about it and stuff too, and will help them with that.

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Speaker 2: But one of the big ones is like it all

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01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: starts with talking to strangers, because every best friend starts

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 2: as a stranger, and like that's really what it is,

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Speaker 2: you know. So it's like you just have to get

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Speaker 2: out of your comfort zone talk to people. It may

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 2: be weird, you might be talking to the wrong people.

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Speaker 2: And then the other thing people have to come up

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01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: with too, is that not everybody's going to be a friend.

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: So I'm being able to just being a question. Also,

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Speaker 2: just just go through more people suck, you know, so

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01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: you you're also interviewing people if you want them to

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01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: be in your life, you know. But I think that's

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01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 2: a big part is just get out of your comfort zone,

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: talk to strangers and you never know who you're gonna

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01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: be friends with. Yeah, absolutely, and yeah we're excited to

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Speaker 2: get back at it because it's been so much fun, awesome.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it man, And honestly, I'm

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Speaker 1: honored to have this man. You're great, like for real,

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Speaker 1: the best, big fan man. Thank you for coming. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: iHeart Podcasts, created and hosted by Payne Lindsay. For Tenderfoot TV,

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Speaker 3: executive producers are Payne Lindsay and Donald Albright. Co executive

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Speaker 3: producer is Mike Rooney. For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are

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Speaker 3: and Vanity Set. Additional production by Mike Rooney, Dylan Harrington,

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