1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 3: Here we are final hour of the program on a 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: beautiful Thursday night. Appreciate y'all hanging out with us here 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Me 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: Mike Harmon. Yeah, I'm atop the leader board in the 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: bracket challenge. 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 4: I'm not too far behind the No I'm. 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Look, it all goes to hell if Iowa State loses 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 3: for me. So really a lot on the Cyclones that 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: they can join the Hawkeys in the Elite eight. Arnie 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: Span You're in for Jason Smith tonight. You hear Arnie 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: on Sunday Nights alongside Chris Plank. I notice you're you're 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: not imparting too much betting knowledge on me just yet 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: or yelling at me meaning one well, I mean just 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: generally screaming at me for things I'm saying. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: Well, we're talking gambling. Big move in the Elite eight 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: games on Saturday already, my Arizona Wildcats opened up as 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: a five and a half point favorite over Purdue. Immediately 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: jumped up to six and a half now over Purdue. 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: So people, somebody you put down, no nothing that push 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: exactly over under a one fifty two. And in the 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: Illinois Iowa game, Illinois a six and a half point 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: favorite in that one, and there's been no change over 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: under one thirty nine and a half. So that is 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: the latest coming in. But Arizona went from five and 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: a half to six and a half. Be a good game. 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: I mean Purdues, get that Oscar Clump guy. He'll go 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: up against Smoke Crevas. They've got two good guards, they 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: should the three poorter Weather, good defensive team. I think 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: we're better. Hopefully we went and get to the to 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: the final four. 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we go through the paces of the season. 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: The presumptive run for your Wildcats going all the way 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: back to tip off at the end of October was 42 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: we expect this team. 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: To be there at the end. 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: You look at the boiler Makers and we talked coaching 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: a little bit earlier in the program. For those that 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: missed it, by get the podcast while we're done, go 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: and grab that talk about some of the coaches with 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: more skin in the game, longer teeth, whatever you want 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: to say, grayer hair, and the Matt Painter. Matt Painters 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: there and he had some great quotes the other day, 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: kind of talking about his love of the game and 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: the process and everything else, but also pointing out he 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: was asked about the Miami Ohio situation specifically as you 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: got into the brackets, and he talked about just the 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: scheduling and you know how they their methodology look nine 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: straight years they've been a top four seed. He goes, 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: I like the metrics that we use and how we schedule. 58 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: There's always gonna be some teams that you're gonna miss, 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: but you're trying to get yourself in the best position 60 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: for a higher seeding come March. 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: And he goes, we've been able to do that for 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 5: other teams. 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that does that mean a little bit of risk 64 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: that you find a team that's a little bit better 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: or matches up with you a little bit better that 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: year than you anticipate. 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: That you don't always want to play pat season's that's 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: the way it works. 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: Oh, but that's just it. 70 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: You're trying to find that balance right in your non 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: conference schedule. 72 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: No, Arizona played one of the most daunting non conference 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: schedules I've ever seen in college basketball. Seriously, that they've 74 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: had one of the best seasons I've ever seen, even 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: if they don't win a championship. I mean the teams 76 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: they beat with the Yukons and Alabama and Florida and Ucla, 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: and only one was at home Kansas and used to 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: than Iowa stayed in the conference. They've just played an 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: unbelievable schedule. They've you know, pulled out on top most 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: of the time. 81 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, you look at the RPI. 82 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: You have the Duke, Michigan, and Arizona your top three. 83 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 5: Houston was fourth, the Gators were fifth. 84 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: We saw them fall early Cyclones, a line eye Boilermakers. 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: So a lot of the heavyweights r still standing, Yukon 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: not far behind. Then you have a Gonzaga, the volunteers 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: are still alive. 88 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: What game are you looking forward to most tomorrow? Which one? 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: I mean obviously Saint John's and Dukes. All the people 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: out here on the East still you know a lot 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: of Saint John's fans they're looking forward to that one. 92 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: But it's captivating in a number of ways. Right, you 93 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: got the elder elder in Patino. I'm not elder lead, 94 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: but a guy skinning, skinning the game and many a stop, 95 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: some controversies, some hey, this is my last job. And 96 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: now he's resurrected Saint John's with two fantastic years and 97 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: he goes up against Shire, who's thirty eight, right, the 98 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: two ends of the spectrum. Quick guy in the mid seventies, 99 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: here's your guy at thirty eight. 100 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: Big story, quick story about John Shire. When I was 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: working in Chicago, my Arizona Wildcats were coming up to 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: play in Marquette and I'm like, why are they coming 103 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: up all the way up here to play at Marquette. 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: I went to the game, went into the locker room, 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: took my kid in it. Besides, that's beside the point. 106 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: I got a story that they were going to the 107 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: high school game across the street from my house. 108 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: How about that? 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 4: So I went across the street, I went to the game. 110 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: Who do you think the big star was for Glenn 111 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: Brook North that year? John Shire, my friend, That guy 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: could score. I saw I heard that guy score eighteen 113 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: points in like six minutes for a comfort behind victory. 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: That guy was one of the best shooters you'll ever 115 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: want to see. He was a phenomenal player, absolutely phenomenal. 116 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: So we're talking about Milwaukee, obviously for the collegiate experience 117 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: there at Marquette and then Northbrook. Yeah, old stopping. I 118 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: need to go spend more time at home as my 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: kids are getting older. I know this is Chicago, perhaps 120 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: a little bit more, even if it is cold and 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: miserable and rainy in whatever else. But my brother's family, friends, 122 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: all my teams, and all the foods that will make 123 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: me fat again, they all anxiously await me and am. 124 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: Just for you. I'm thinking about naming my new dog 125 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: evanston Evan for short. That could be the nickname. There 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 4: you go for next week. So I appreciate that. So 127 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 4: we got a new dog on the horizon. I did 128 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: see that on the on the yellow legal pads you 129 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: should hey no, no, no hold on, break the stop the presses. 130 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: Though, I actually thought something was wrong with you this morning, 131 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: because historically the yellow legal pads start, those pages start 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: showing up at least twenty four hours early. 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: I hadn't done two days before. I just didn't want 134 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: to bother you because I feel you go off the 135 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: deep end if I send it to you two days. 136 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: Earlier, you might giving me some inspired notions by which 137 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: to either yell at Jason Smith or Jared Yester. Right right, Instead, 138 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: here we are. It was eleven am and all of 139 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: a sudden West Coast time, the notepad notebook page came 140 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: and I breathed a sigh of relief. I go, all right, 141 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: my guy's still good. 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but we were gonna name the dog Evanston. 143 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: I was gonna name the dog Harmon. 144 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: That's nothing to stop you from doing. 145 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But well my wife wants the name 146 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: of Hot Coco, so I gotta put my foot down 147 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: on that. 148 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: That's good. 149 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: Well, maybe I I come and visit you in two weeks. 150 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: I'll be out of East Coach with my kid. Well, 151 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: we'll see if we can't, you know, try to push 152 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: the narrative and I'll train the dog to respond to 153 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: my name. But no, I mean, the Saint John's Duke 154 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: game has just so much pageantry to it. Love or 155 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: hate him, and maybe it's softened through the years, Patino 156 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: is a name that still stirs the drink. And again 157 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: going back to what we talked about earlier, the fact 158 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: that you have these older coaches having success. I think 159 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: it's good for the game, right, their characters, they have 160 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: the history and and they've been able to make that 161 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: bridge work now. 162 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: But now you look at Go Ahead. 163 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: I think I think more people are excited about Michigan 164 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: State Yukon with Hurley and Iszo well. 165 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 5: No, sure, right, that's the next iteration. 166 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: Right, we saw Hurley versus Cronin and now you get 167 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: Izzo and on his career, and I thought it was 168 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: an interesting graphics. Jason Smith and I talked about it 169 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: last week as it was transpiring. The fact that you've 170 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: got tom Izzo with I think it's seventy maybe now 171 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: seventy one career tournament wins. He's still forty away from Skrzyzewski. Wow, 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: history and dominance. And Kky's been now been retired a 173 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: couple of years. But I mean, that's a great matchup. 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: Danny Hurley again, people love him or they don't. Right, 175 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: you decide he's too much for you. And this was, 176 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: you know, one of the overriding themes and I think 177 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: it was one or two reporters really just trying to 178 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: add ask every one of the coaches about that fine 179 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: line between tough love and hard coaching versus going too soft. 180 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: How come his name's coming up and all the coaching 181 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: rumors out there, you know, we heard it for the Lakers, 182 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 4: But how come he's not coming up for Kansas or 183 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: North Caroline. 184 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: He showed up a little further down the board from 185 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 3: North Carolina. I think one of those one of the 186 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: questions is if he's going to leave the fiefdom that 187 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: he's built, because let's call it what it is for Yukon. 188 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: And I'm sure you and Torres have talked about this 189 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: in the past, and and certainly I know Aaron and 190 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: I I mean, there's no more decorated program when you 191 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: talk about the women's side, for sure, but certainly the 192 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: men's side. You know, going back to Calhoun and and 193 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: what Hurley's been able to do, You're you're talking about, 194 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: uh for the at least this century. If they're not 195 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: the best program there their metal stand, right, why are 196 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: you leaving for North Carolina? 197 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: Well, you if you're if you're into the history, if 198 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: you have a connection if there's a reason why you 199 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: want to go live down there, that would be one 200 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: of the reasons why you'd want to go. Or you're 201 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: like the Bennett from Santa Clara that wants to try 202 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: something new, though in his age, I think he just 203 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: wants to go to a Power five conference. I think 204 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: that's the big difference there. 205 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the different side of it, right, Yeah, yeah, 206 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's it's all good. 207 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: You know. 208 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: You look at the the timelines and processes that each 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: of these guys on their own, just like someone making 210 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: good decision of whether they're staying in school or gonna 211 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: test their wares and the pros. Right, we certainly are 212 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: looking at it as as we get uh towards the 213 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: draft that we we have guys that have made that decision. 214 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: It's like, did you get good intel? Did you get 215 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 5: bad intel? 216 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: Guys that go into the transfer portal thinking they've got 217 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: a spot will get what the point guard that was 218 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: supposed to leave didn't. So now you're kind of in 219 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: no man's land. 220 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 5: Right. 221 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: We've certainly seen that year after year, Or you have 222 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: to go crawling back to the program that you were 223 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: hoping that you still have a slot, or do you 224 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: have to now fight some new kid that's coming in 225 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: to take your job. Right, So coaches the same thing. 226 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: You know, politics, changes at the top, changes in the 227 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: different structures may precipitate a move. Right, you might be 228 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: fully intended to stay for another year, even though you 229 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: might have a couple of suitors, but all of a 230 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: sudden your a d leaves. 231 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 5: Didn't that just happen? 232 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 3: It was last week, right, I mean where you're going 233 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: back to a year ago when we were talking about 234 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: Willard and Maryland, Right, they still had a lot of 235 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: issue with him that he left. There's still a lot 236 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: of anger and certainly saying hey, I'm gonna fire all 237 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: my coaches at halftime, folks didn't quite well. But look, 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: there's a difference between snark and chaos and whatever. But 239 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: we're so sensitive and this goes to the back to 240 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: the coaches all talking about how soft we are as 241 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: a society at times. And you can decide where you 242 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: fall on that in terms of your own meter on that. 243 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: You and John and Susie que public listening to us 244 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. You know, tough coaching, some 245 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: kids can't do it, but it's it's also the environment 246 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: you're in. So Willard saying that about the coaches, some 247 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: folks took it really as a personal affront. I think 248 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: the only person that should have been able to take 249 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: it that way, I mean are as coaches and Shahati, 250 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: Laura Shati, who was interviewing it, right, because she's kind 251 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: of put on the spot, because that's the record scratch moment, right, 252 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: You're having an argument and someone goes, oh, yeah, well 253 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: you it's like whoa, whoa, whoa, we're playing by some 254 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: sort of rules here, that kind of thing that suddenly 255 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: you've come to this other agreement that you decided to 256 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: throw a wrench in here. So for Willard, it was 257 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: all right, I think I'm staying, or at least that's 258 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: the tale being told. 259 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 5: But then the ad. 260 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: Left, So suddenly are you You're not the next guy? 261 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: I mean we see it all the time in other 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: professional sports, right of Hey, I was that GMS guy, 263 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: but now he's fired. 264 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 5: How safe is my job? 265 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Right? 266 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: And they and they take on off. By the way, 267 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: when you were saying you picked Ihowa State, don't count 268 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: out Jefferson for that game. I think he's gonna be 269 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: a game time disaise. 270 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 5: No, but that's it. 271 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: But you know he I think he seemed a little 272 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: down in the mouth in the after his workout today. 273 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh that's too bad because I thought he might 274 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 4: be able to play. I thought he might get on 275 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 4: the court. 276 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: I'm still hoping. Here's twenty four hours to a miracle. 277 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: Sleep in that hyperbaric chamber. Yeah, around the clock treatment, 278 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: let's go, let's go, clones, get it together and not 279 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: those clones. 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And 343 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: he goes, why I go? Make him recreate that. You know, 344 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: he's outside smoking and looking to the heavens, like what 345 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: is my life? Say if he could do that, or 346 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 3: have him say I'm batman. Arnie, you said here in 347 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: New York, like you live there? 348 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: I do live here. 349 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: You're not in New York. 350 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: In Connecticut, now New York dude. 351 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 5: Suburbs claiming you're in Chicago. 352 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: Come on, geez, come on, different state, different taxation, different 353 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: elected officials. 354 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 5: That's what he says about Dolphins game. It was a 355 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: win and a lost, same thing. 356 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: Stop it. Come on, I'm a training ride away from 357 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: the city. 358 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's a distance that is means you're not there. 359 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: And and if they had a speed train here, I'd 360 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: be a speed train away from San Francisco. 361 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 5: No, exactly right. 362 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: If if they hadn't spent several billion dollars on of 363 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: pit and no rails or or cars to move me 364 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: up and down a rail line, that I'd be in 365 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: Vegas at an hour san Diego. No, it's great in 366 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: theory until you decide, hey, let's just keep shoveling money 367 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: back and forth and not actually do it. Date my man, 368 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: not not political, just bad business overall. But yeah, I 369 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: mean your Dolphins is what you're over under, like four wins. 370 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 5: Four and a half. 371 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: I think it is. 372 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 5: Getting traded before the draft until No. 373 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: They redid his contracts, so I think he's he'll be 374 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 4: with us for a while. You're forgetting that we do 375 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: have a quarterback, the only quarterback we've had since Stan Marino. 376 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: So I'm still have high hopes out there. I don't 377 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 4: think that a guy that. 378 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: Was a four thousand yard passer just a couple of 379 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: years ago, Like that never happened. 380 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: Who are you talking about? What are you talking about? 381 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 3: Tuah, You're you're talking about a guy who threw what 382 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: forty passes like you have a second with. 383 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: The concussions and you never knew what he was gonna 384 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: get hurt And look, I like Wattle, but we did 385 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: get a boatload and returned for him, So I think 386 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: the draft picks will do well. You can always replace 387 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: a wide receiver and save some money. 388 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: No, there's no question about that. I mean, come on now, 389 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: and certainly Wattle's good, uh not great, but. 390 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 4: He's a very good receiver that's certainly gonna help Denver. 391 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: That was a good move by Denver to pick him. 392 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: Up, A nice piece to add alongside Courtland Sutton, no 393 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: question about it. Yeah, But I just think he's how 394 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: your guys at the end of the is year though, isn't. 395 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: He who's at the end of the No, No, not 396 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: at all. I think he's got like two more years left. 397 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 5: No, No, he's in the fourth year of his deals. 398 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: He's down after twenty six. 399 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 4: I'll have to double check that, but I do not know, 400 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: I don't think he's been on there. This is not 401 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: going to be his fourth year, is it. 402 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 403 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: Wild time flies. 404 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's some restructuring and things that have 405 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: been done with his deal, but I'm pretty sure he's 406 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: he's on his left unless there's a signing imminent. As 407 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: of now, he's in his final year. 408 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 4: Give me an over under on how many teams in 409 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: the NFL are tanking for the number one pick with 410 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: arch manning the following year five six? 411 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 5: Really you think that many people are? 412 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the quarterback class in theory is good, but 413 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: this one was supposed to be good a year ago. 414 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 3: Us Meyer and all those guys who were supposed. 415 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 4: To be great, well, supposed to be better than better 416 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 4: than what it is. But next year is like the 417 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: superclass is what they're saying. 418 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: Superclass is gonna be like nineteen eighty three. 419 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 4: Where there was six quarterbacks taken in the first round, right, 420 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: lay and yeah, member, I think was the same quarterback taken. 421 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that worked out really well. Finkle is Ironhorn. 422 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: Ironhorn as Finkle. We actually talked about the prop Store 423 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: auction yesterday where the mechanical rhino from when nature calls 424 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: the sequel went for sixty thousand. 425 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 5: Dollars, estimated to only go between six and a k oh, 426 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: my gosh. 427 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: And the quint The quint Roden reel went for two 428 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars from Jaws. 429 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: People got too much money, No. 430 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: I mean they look, you find joy in what you have. 431 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: It's not too much because, as Montgomery Burns famously said, 432 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: I trade it all for a little more at stick 433 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: a genius one where you find and find me over 434 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: at Swollen Dome. So we're talking a little bit about 435 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: Saint John's and Duke earlier. 436 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 4: Alababam forward to that one. Though out of the four 437 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: that's probably gonna that's probably by number one. Also though 438 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 4: Michigan's that you caught is a close number two. And 439 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: let's not sleep on Alabama Michigan, which is gonna be 440 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: a great. 441 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Alabama Michigan because Alabama. Again, we're talking about the 442 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: coaching carousel and and seeing which of these teams that 443 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: are playing now may may have to worry about retaining 444 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: their coach. Right a loss here sweet sixteen, that's all 445 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: fine and good, but it's not making it to the 446 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: up the hill like your Arizona Wildcats. You were talking 447 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: about greatness and what a year it was. You're still 448 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: gonna be mad if if it ends before a title. 449 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: You can't tell me, oh, that was a great year, right. 450 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: You might say that, you know while you're you know, 451 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: biting your lip because you you're told that that's what 452 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 3: you're supposed to say. But behind the scenes, you're punching, 453 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 3: you know, a pillow, You're you're going down to the 454 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: gym and pounding out a few. 455 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: That's because of the Yeah, but they're the second favorite though. 456 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: That's why I'd be a little disappointed. Let's remember Duke, Michigan, 457 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: Arizona all very close in the top trade. 458 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: They were the three teams that far and away from 459 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: a rating standpoint coming out of the regular season, were 460 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: that far ahead of the past, and they. 461 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: Have as good as chances Arizona's winning too. Matter of fact, 462 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: Arizona's gonna have to play Michigan on that first semi 463 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: final once we get by Purdue, so you know, one 464 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: of them's got to lose. One of them's got to go. 465 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: By the way. 466 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: I notice you said when instead of if, Yeah. 467 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: It's a done deal from now on. Manzi's gonna put 468 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: that in the updates Arizona over Purdue. 469 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 5: That it's just done and done done deal. Yeah, yeah, 470 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 5: I don't know that she's taping out days ahead. 471 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: You could do that, though. I think they'd like. 472 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think some people do. 473 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: I think that has that has become a common practice 474 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: for some folks. Not really how we operate here, uh, 475 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: from these desks here or Smith and I you know, 476 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: certainly you Arenie Spaniard. 477 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: I do wonder you know how they say gambling helps 478 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: the NFL. I'm wondering how much this whole bracket thing 479 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: helps the popularity of college basketball. And if we didn't 480 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: have the brackets, then what would happen to the popularity 481 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: and how many people would be watching in March? 482 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's the curiosity, right, Every year we 483 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 5: see some of these Challenger and Christmas the Great Research Firm, 484 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 5: and what they put out. According to the American Gaming Association, 485 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 5: it's an estimate three point three billion dollars legally, so 486 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 5: imagine the shadow money on top of it. 487 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: That's amazing? 488 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 5: Is that double triple? What that? I mean, that's a 489 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: lot of money right. 490 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: Clearly you're talking licensed, state regulated sports books So that's 491 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: about forty states and DC. Still nothing in California and 492 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: a couple of other large states. But a lot of 493 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: folks that we know certainly are getting their wagers in, 494 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: whether it's the quick run to the Nevada border or whatever. 495 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: I like bet I like the bet on it better 496 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 4: than the Super Bowl, even though I like betting on 497 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: props in the Super Bowl. People love betting on March Bad. 498 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: Its was the games of so many and they're fast 499 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: and furious. You have a lot of upsets. It's just 500 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: and they started the nine o'clock in the morning on 501 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 4: the West coast, but. 502 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: That's just it. 503 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: Right the the opening weekend, it's changed. Jared Smith and 504 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: I were talking about that a little bit yesterday. Lives 505 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: out in Vegas. You hear him on Countdown on Saturday Jars. 506 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: So it's the idea of it's Vegas is morphing and changing. 507 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: Right. 508 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 3: If you are going to a sports book, the old 509 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: rule of thumb was, and I think it's still tried 510 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: and true. If you're a horse better, you're gonna get 511 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: taken care of because there's money flowing in and you 512 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: can sit there and they'll profit off of especially if 513 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: you're running multiple tracks and set so you'll get your 514 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: preferential seating for the books. But it's long been a 515 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: tradition for folks to filter into the sports books in 516 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: Vegas and you have the roar of that crowd with 517 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: every bucket, all the prop betting, all of those fun things. 518 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: I like the Calcutta. Do you know the Calcutta? You 519 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 4: ever heard of that? 520 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: I don't know. The Calcutta where you get. 521 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: Together with a bunch of guys and you bid on 522 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: teams that you want and you get paid as far 523 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: as they go into the third Like if you took 524 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: high Point, they won a game, so you made money 525 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: on high Point. You know what I mean? 526 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: Okay, so you it's open auction for all sixty. 527 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you bid, like to buy Duke. I'm just if 528 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: it's a high end one. To buy Duke costs like 529 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars, but to buy high Point was 530 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: probably eight thousand dollars or something. 531 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: So is this one like in a fantasy draft where 532 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: everybody's got the same No, you go, you gotta pay 533 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: real money. 534 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta pay. Like when I say one 535 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 4: hundred thousand, that means if you and I are partners. 536 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 4: You gotta cut me a check for fifty thous We're. 537 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: Done, all right, Yeah, I'll see in hell with that 538 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: kind of thing. 539 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: That's that's not monopoly, buddy. That's that's why you gotta 540 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: have bore. 541 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 3: Than because I know there's certainly been others where it's 542 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 3: the luck of the draw and here's your no, no, no, 543 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: and everybody into a pool and it's like, oh great, 544 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: I got high point. You get a do I at 545 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: least get one of those steak dinners that they advertise 546 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: on campus. 547 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 5: I get them in my pool. 548 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: No, you have to come up with the catch. That's 549 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: why most people get like four or five guys on 550 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: their team. Uh, to minimize the cost a. 551 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: Little okay, like certainly like buying into some of the 552 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 3: high end yes, exact contest over the course of a year. 553 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 5: Okay, Well that's an interesting I never heard calcul. 554 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what they do. And I love it, though, 555 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: I you know, I like it's just a little too 556 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: pricey for me. 557 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 5: Well, I mean you always tell me how rich you are. 558 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I do that all the time. 559 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: You know, the multiple houses, the cars, I'll. 560 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 4: Just clay traving. 561 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: Why why do you Why, why do you got to 562 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: do that? Why you pocket watching? You're already said you're 563 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: taking over his show too. 564 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's only if Arizona loss. 565 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 5: I mean there's still a couple more opportunities in this tournament. 566 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I feel good against Purdue. I'm not worried 567 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: about them as much. The Michigan game is gonna be 568 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 4: a real tough one, but no, I'm not right now Duke. 569 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 4: For tomorrow's games, Duke is a six and a half 570 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 4: point favorite, Michigan up to eight and a half, Yukon 571 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: only one and a half over Michigan State. Iowa State's 572 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: still holding it three and a half. So I'm wondering 573 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 4: why a lot of people didn't throw a lot of 574 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 4: money on Tennessee with that injury going on the Iowa State. 575 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: Well, because he's been hurt the whole time. So it's 576 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: all right, but it's already baked in. It's baked in 577 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: by baked well, but it's baked in differently, right, It's 578 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: been baked in that he wasn't gonna play. 579 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: Like the assumption is he's out. 580 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: I know that, but I mean, if if he's really 581 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: out and he's the second best scorer on the team. 582 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: You think people would be betting Tennessee handover fist for something? 583 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 5: No? No, but how many how many times have you 584 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 5: talked to Todd Ferban during. 585 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: No, it's basically but if he was playing and he 586 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 4: wasn't hurt, the line would have been four and a 587 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: half instead of three and a half. So what's the 588 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: big deal? 589 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying I had four on my board here, 590 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: Michigan nine and a half. Yeah, Illinois is seven point 591 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: favorite over Iowa and your Arizona Wildcats at least where 592 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: I'm looking six point favorites one fifty two to the total. 593 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: Who had dropped a little bit? 594 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not exactly looking for barn burners there. Michigan 595 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: State Yukon one thirty four and a half for tomorrow. 596 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: Low scoring one. I would you know it's gonna be 597 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: a low scoring one, don't. I don't think Yukon could 598 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: go and push it against them. Michigan State plays such 599 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: great defense. Jeez, that's gonna be a good one. That's 600 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: a tough one. 601 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: And then he got a guy running around. His name 602 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: is Fears for Crying out lone. Yeah, what makes money 603 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: at box office? 604 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 5: Horror films. 605 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: Why low budget, high return, And that was one of 606 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: the picks I gave out. I was Michigan State because 607 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: the worst fear of Danny Hurley were confirmed as Michigan 608 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: State pulls the narrow upset. But it's good to have 609 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: the classic blue blood legacy, whatever term you want to use, 610 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: names the top. It's something Jason Smith and I have 611 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: talked about here on the show quite a bit. Arnie, 612 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: your Arizona Wildcats. I think back to those years with 613 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: Loud Olson behind the bench and all of those guys, 614 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: Michael Wright and those squads, with Luke Walton, meeting those 615 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: guys when they were playing, when they were coming to Stanford, 616 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: when I was living up in the Bay Area and 617 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: having some conversations as they were heading to the bus. So, 618 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: you know, some some fond memories of that era of 619 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: college basketball that we get to renew a little bit, 620 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: right with Michigan State still rolling through with Purdue, Gene 621 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: Katie was showing up and you know, Michigan State go 622 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: back to jud Heathcote. 623 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: It's all good stuff. 624 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 4: By the way, the Michigan State Yukon game in Washington, 625 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: d C. That's that's the tip off. Till nine, which 626 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: means past ten o'clock it will tip off out. Okay, 627 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: I mean that's so late. 628 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 5: What you got to do early on a Saturday morning? 629 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 5: You go? 630 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 4: They got to play at ten o'clock tip off also, so. 631 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: They'll get over it. What are you, Mick cronin? Oh, someone, 632 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: think of the children. 633 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: Think of the kids. 634 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: Children, Think of that guy getting paid three million dollars 635 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: to play point guard. Think of the children. 636 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 4: Think of them. Ten o'clock at night, it's too late. 637 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: What about the fans? 638 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: All the fans again, I'm assuming if you're ponying up 639 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: the expenses, whether it's by playing by train, by automobile, 640 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: plus tickets to the to the show as it were, 641 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: you're not worried about when it kicks off, just so 642 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: long as it does. 643 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: But by the way, just one quick though. When you 644 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: said tickets, I know we never talk hockey. My kid 645 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: wants to go to the Sabers playoff game in Buffalo 646 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: because it's been so long since they made the playoffs. 647 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: Guess how much your ticket was? Ten thousand dollars. No, 648 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: come on, I'm not kidding. 649 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 5: Getting ten thousand dollars. 650 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 4: He showed it to me, he sent it to me. 651 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 5: No, that's me. He's trying for the exactly he's trying 652 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 5: to get ice time. 653 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: No, no, have to play for them. I'm gonna I 654 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 4: have to send it to you. I'll have to go. 655 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 5: There's no chance in hell. It's ten thousand dollars. 656 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: He sent me the the slip of it. But I'll 657 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: send it. 658 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 5: From the Onion Army. 659 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 660 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you're getting one of those fugazy laks. 661 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 5: No, your son does the same things you. 662 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: I got it right here, dad, I'm gonna need your 663 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: credit card. 664 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, ten grand. 665 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's here's my credit card number. Yeah, I've said 666 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: it to you right now. 667 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 5: Dude, she's hot. 668 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 4: Ten thousand cop Is. 669 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 5: He hanging out of the only fans? Like, what are 670 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 5: we doing? 671 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 4: Section one sixteen Road two see twenty one and twenty two. 672 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: Nine thousand Now no, no, no, there's a much different thing. Yeah, 673 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: there might be someone saying this, Hey, I'm gonna try 674 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: for ten grand because some guy's got. 675 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 5: A click click click, click click click. He wants the 676 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 5: section one hundred. 677 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: But you go up into the nosebleeds like we usually 678 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: get potentially bitten by a rat at the Chicago stadium. 679 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: You get in for twenty five hours. Come on, it'll 680 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: be a little more expensive. Vaping squirrels, Mike, vaping squirrels. 681 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 5: We got to talk about that. Sarks, cocaine, sharks, vaping squirrels, 682 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 5: I 683 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: Said, Man, you be sure to catch live editions of 684 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten 685 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: pm Eastern seven pm Pacific