1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Q and On is now the most prolific online conspiracy 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: theory of the twenty one century. None of their predictions 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: came true. Q has vanished and the storm never came, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: but Q and On is still alive. I'm Jake Hanrahan, 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: and this is Series two of Q Clearance, a podcast 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: shedding light on the ongoing Q and on conspiracy theory. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: This is a production of Kudatar Media and I Heart Radio. 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Here at Q Clearance, we've spoken a lot about the 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: way in which Q and On is evolving. We've covered 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: everything from their deranged post election theories to the neo 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Nazi Q and on components rapidly emerging. What I want 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: to do for a bit in this episode, though, is 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: to take it one step further theoretically, at least, let's 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: imagine a world where somehow Q and On was actually 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: real and legitimate. What they think is happening is happening. 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Imagine that we were all wrong and they were all right. 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: Let's imagine this nightmare for a second, that they managed 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: to take over and overthrow enough of the current US 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: order to realize they're much wanted. Revolution after a revolution 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: and economic system must be implemented, right well, Q and 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: On even has one of those. It's something called nas Sarah. 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: We'll get onto that, but just imagine for a minute 23 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: what would have to happen for the Q and On 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: to get to that point where they are able to 25 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: implement this economic reform system. Now, the following will obviously 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: be a fictional dramatization, but remember this is actually all 27 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: based on the ideas of Q and On's themselves ols 28 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: As far as I can tell after two or more 29 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: years researching this phenomenon, their storm would look something like this. 30 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Thousands of highly trained US military cells loyal to Donald 31 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Trump begins storming federal government buildings across the US. Any 32 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: politician that's a Democrats or even a Republican that hasn't 33 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: completely backed Q a so called rhino, is arrested and 34 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: taken away in a truck. The vote or ideas of 35 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: Democrats across the US are posted online and Q and 36 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: On supporters are given arms to round them up. The 37 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: White House is stormed by Q and On militias with 38 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: the help of Trump's secret US military cells. Biden is 39 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: shot on site. However, Kamala Harris has managed to escape 40 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: due to her connections within the police force. Trump emerges 41 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: from a chopper landing in the Rose Garden, ready for action. 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: He marches into the Oval Office as hundreds of thousands 43 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: of Q and On supporters scream with excitement our aside. 44 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: The windows are rattling. Meanwhile, voting machines across the country 45 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: are torched, and every Clinton family residence is stormed. It 46 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: takes a while, as there are so many and they're 47 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: so huge, but eventually Hillary two is rounded up as 48 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: the US burns, Q flags are hoisted up over every 49 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: federal building left standing. Anyone who is considered slightly liberal 50 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: is accused of being an ANTIFAR terrorist and is shot 51 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: or arrested. TV networks are stormed without warning by O 52 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: A n N stormtroopers. Anyone who isn't willing to immediately 53 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: pledge allegiance to Trump's coup and the reign of Q 54 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: and On is again either executed or arrested. TV networks 55 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: are taken over entirely by an emergency live system telling 56 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: the whole of the US that Trump is back and 57 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: Q was in fact real. On this system, on every 58 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: screen across the nation, live footage can be seen of 59 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: the gallows being erected on the lawn outside the White House. 60 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: There are dozens of rows of them. As this happens, 61 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: the laws of a standing kangaroo corp are read out 62 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: by Lynn Wood in the top hat. Everyone screams treason 63 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: at the end of each sentence. The Q special forces 64 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: units arrive in large military trucks, guns drawn. They lead 65 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: a steady line of quivering politicians to the nooses. The 66 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: crowds cheer where we go, on we go all it 67 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: can be heard booming everywhere. The politicians are hanged. The 68 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: country is now cues. Now. I know that sounded a 69 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: little bit over dramatic, but I think it's important to 70 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: hear it that way, because ultimately, this is the same 71 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: sort of fever dream many of the Q followers have 72 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: been fantasizing about now for years now. It might not 73 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: happen that quickly, but in their minds, the true Q 74 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: and onbelievers think all of the afore mentioned in that 75 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: little story is ready to happen at any moment. So 76 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: after this theoretical Q and On overthrow, what economic system 77 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: would keep the Q followers thriving. Well, they've thought of 78 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: that too, As I mentioned, It's something called Nassarah n 79 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a s a A. The concept has actually been around 80 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: much longer than Q. But as we all know by now, 81 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Q and On likes to pull at threads from many 82 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: different theories and ideas, amalgamating it, putting its own spin 83 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: on it, and turning it into something quite original, if 84 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: not a bit evil. So Nasarah. Recently on the Q 85 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: and on Telegram channels, I've seen Nassara mentioned. More and 86 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: more people are saying when will Nassara star? How can 87 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I live within the Nassara economic system? What will Nassara 88 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: reforms do for me? That sort of thing. So I 89 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: spoke to Travis's view of the excellent Q and Non 90 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Anonymous podcasts. I wanted him to explain to us what 91 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: the hell Nassara actually is. Um maybe you can just 92 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: explain what actually is Nasara. Yeah, Nassara is kind of 93 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: like a proto Q and On, and it started out 94 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: fairly instantly. Um So, all the way back in the nineties, 95 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: there was a man named Harvey and Francis Bernard, and 96 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: he came up with these proposed economic reforms that they 97 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: called the National Economic Security and Recovery Act, or NASSARA, 98 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: and he printed out copies of these reforms and sent 99 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: them to members of Congress, and of course they all 100 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: ignored it because it just really wasn't the plausible. These 101 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: uh these economic reforms involved things like abolishing the income 102 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: tax in favor of sales tax um, also abolishing a 103 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: sort of compound interest on some securities, and also uh 104 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: returning to so bi metallic currency that's sort of the 105 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: gold and silver standard. However, um he also uh Harvey 106 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: France Bernard also produced a book about his reforms called 107 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Draining the Swamp finitely enough. But you know, it would 108 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: have probably just sort of been lost the history if 109 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't for the fact that some people, like around 110 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: two thousand, they started to get the idea that uh 111 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: nos Sara has been passed secretly by Congress. No, obviously 112 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: that's not how laws work. Laws can't be passed secretly, 113 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: But they got this idea um thanks to a woman 114 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: named Shanny Goodwin who operated by the name Dove of 115 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Oneness online and Shandy good when she she herself has 116 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: an interesting history. She um she has some involvement with 117 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: some uh sort of some the some cults up in 118 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: Washington State, and she also fell for what they called 119 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: the Omega trust scam which was which was operated run 120 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: by the scammer named Clyde Hood, who claimed that people 121 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: gave him some money they could, you know, fifty times 122 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: or five thousand times it um. So what happened is 123 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: that she started getting a following talking about the Omega Trust, 124 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: claiming that the money that that all these basically all 125 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: these dupes, all these marks uh thought was coming to 126 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: them was going to happen soon. And she kept promising 127 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: and promising and promising. Of course it didn't happen. Eventually, 128 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Clyde Hood, you know, he gets arrested, he fell and uh, 129 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: and so he can't run that scam anymore. But she 130 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: had a good one. She keeps her audience going by 131 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: claiming that this Nassara bill was going to be revealed soon, 132 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: and she added a lot of bizarre our claims, such 133 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: as that after Nassara is revealed, it would lead to 134 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: worldwide economic prosperity just everyone is incredibly wealthy, and also 135 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: world peace and uh. She claimed that that you know 136 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: that there there's this battle going on behind the scenes 137 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: between what they called like the White Knights and the 138 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: Black Knights, and they thought that the only reason that 139 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: this this uh, the secret law isn't being revealed? Was 140 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: because of this this battle right, very cut and on like, yes, yes, yes, yes, 141 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: it is extremely Q and On like. It also involved 142 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: she when the eleven happened, she she integrated that. She 143 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: claimed that basically there was some sort of computer in 144 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: the Twin Towers that would make the Sara official. But 145 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: but the the planes crashing into the Twin Towers helped 146 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: ruined it. And that was the only reason that even 147 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: the attacks of nine eleven happened. So how is it 148 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: that Q and On ended up involved with this later? Well, 149 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: Cumulon followers, they're also very utopian. They think that after 150 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the truth of all their conspiracy theories has finally revealed, 151 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: we're going to enter into a grand new age of 152 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: peace and prosperity and togetherness. And so as a consequence, 153 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: many have absorbed the Nasara narrative as explaining how this 154 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: supposed global prosperity is going to happen. Um. So this 155 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: has been going on, you know, over twenty years now, right, 156 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: So I've been seeing them saying that, like this is 157 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: going to be like implemented. How how would that like, 158 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: how does that into the qu On universe? Because obviously 159 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Q would have to implement you know, acques behind everything. 160 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: How are they key in these two things up? So 161 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: in the queuing on world, they often believe that um, 162 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: things like poverty and war and um illness UM aren't 163 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: caused by a complex set of social or just medical factors. 164 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: They think that everything that's bad that goes on the 165 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: world is because of the cabal. There's a secret group 166 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: of people who want to extend the suffering of us 167 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: common people. Um. And so they believe that um, you know, 168 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: once this sort of the once these evil people are 169 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: are done away with, and once the the evilness of 170 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: these people is finally exposed, then we can sort of 171 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: enter into the great new Golden Age. And so Nassara 172 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: obviously plays into that because it plays upon them many 173 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: of the same tropes, the belief that the only reason 174 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: people are struggling for any reason is because that um, 175 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's because of this this evil cabal, right, 176 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: and there is you see, so there's no SARA and 177 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: there's Sara, right. Yes, this was another addition by the 178 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: people who believed in the Sara. They thought that it 179 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: wasn't merely a national economic uh security and Recovery Act. 180 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: It was global the Global Economic Security Recovering Act. And uh, 181 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're um. As a consequence of this, 182 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: there they're Nasara Jassara started getting a following in the Netherlands, 183 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: actually became an international movement. Right, So how is life 184 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: going to look for the Q and on do they 185 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: think under this if this was actually happening, Like, how 186 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: do they see that day today? I mean, I know 187 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: it's a weird question. I'm just trying to get into 188 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: my head what they think would happen. I mean, yeah, 189 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: they think that that literally that they're gonna open up 190 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: their bank account one day and then discover that they're 191 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: all millionaires and uh like that that no one's going 192 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: to be poor anymore. And somehow, you know, I don't 193 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: think they quite um, you know, took how this would 194 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: affect inflation or other kind of complex economic effects of 195 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: everyone suddenly simultaneously becoming incredibly wealthy. Um. But this is 196 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: essentially what they think is going to happen. I mean 197 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: they really think that, um, once the truth is exposed, 198 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: it will lead to the end of yeah, like poverty 199 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and conflict and even illness. Wow. And and there's no 200 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: there's nothing concrete that this is based on other than 201 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: what sound like predictions, to be honest, from the from 202 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: the person you mentioned before we kind of started. No, 203 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: it's it's fueled on nothing but hope and some like 204 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: I said, some some vague economic proposals made by in 205 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: a Texas engineer that never got any traction in Congress. Yeah, 206 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: it sounds very cute and on. Um, that's very interesting. 207 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, And I wanted to ask you as well, UM, 208 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: while you're here, are you surprised how many followers there 209 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: still are of Q on the tide agrams. There's hundreds 210 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: of thousands of people still invested invested in this, you 211 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Maybe I was being naive. I 212 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: was quite shocked to see how many people are still 213 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: holding on. I'm unfortunately, I'm not surprised just because of 214 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: how long I've been following it and and um, how 215 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: often I've seen them weather false predictions. Uh. For example, 216 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: all the way back in two thousand and eighteen, I 217 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: saw Q tell Q and on followers that the midterm 218 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: elections that year would lead to a red wave and 219 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: meaning that the Republicans would like increase their UM. There 220 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: are majorities and the Democrats would be shut out, and 221 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: reality what happened was that Democrats took the house. I 222 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: thought this was a clear false prediction that I thought 223 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: it would dissuade quman On followers from continuing to believe. 224 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: Of course, that didn't happen at all. So Ever, since then, 225 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I realized that a lot of these people they're simply 226 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: too invested. They've invested too much time, They've sacrificed too much, 227 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: They've sacrificed sometimes their family relationships, they've sacrifice their careers, 228 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: um and so as a consequence of all that sacrifice, 229 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: there's just there's actually really don't see a scenario in 230 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: which they would just totally give it up. They really 231 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: need us to happen. Trevis view the speaking about Nassara 232 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: and the inability for q and On's to let go 233 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: despite the many, many failed predictions. Like Trevis just said, there, 234 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: these people need this to happen. They've invested so much 235 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: time and energy into it that basically this has to 236 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: happen for them, otherwise it has been a huge waste 237 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: of time. Now, you and me, you might just think, well, 238 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: if something fails, if it wasn't right, you kind of 239 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: cut your losses and you leave that start. Well, No, 240 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: for a lot of the Q and On supporters, things 241 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: have got extremely dark. There are people whose whole families 242 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: have been destroyed by this, and there is even the 243 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: possibility that one woman was sent so insane by the 244 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: Q and On mania that she actually committed to murders. 245 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: We will be talking about that in the next episode 246 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: of Q Clearance and looking into the ways that this 247 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory has done and continues to destroy people's lives. 248 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: It's quite funny to look at some of the insane theories, 249 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: especially looking at Nassarah as we just have. But genuinely, 250 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: there is some very bad things happening here to people 251 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: that believe in Q and On and the families and 252 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: the people that are around them. More on that in 253 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: the next episode. Q Clearance is brought to you by 254 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and cou Data Media. I'm Jake Hanrahan. 255 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: You can find me online at Jake Underscore Hanrahan. That's 256 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: h A N A A h A N. You can 257 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: get Q Clearance merch at dark wash dot net. This 258 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: episode was produced by myself, with fact checking and additional 259 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: research by Sarah Hiower. 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